Paterno’s statement’s not enough, Penn State dropped ball

Jeff, you are an idiot. He is being prosecuted before even all the facts are out. Why do we need a legal system when there are reporters like you out there? Every day more and more you are getting like Terrance Moore. Just writing shock articles to get reactions out of everybody. The AJC is no longer worthy of even wrapping fish. It must be wonderful being a Monday morning quarterback.

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I wonder what the public reaction would have been in 1998 if Paterno/Penn State had sicced the police on Sandusky. I suggest it would have been much the same as it is now and Paterno knew that. He had to know about Sandusky and finally got him off the staff in 1999 and has spent the past 12 years buying time. If Paterno had been forced out in 1998 over this at least he would have his honor, if not 409 wins.

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I don’t think the man deserves to go to jail but he shouldn’t be allowed to have his farewell tour and retire on his own terms.

Regardless of what he has done in his life, he allowed a known predator to stay on campus and horrific events took place after they knew something wasn’t right with Sandusky.

In almost any scenario, the people responsible would be fired.

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You guys are like flies on s%^t. He is an 84 year old man, who violated absolutely no laws, and did not do anything to cover up the abuse. It was reported to him. He did not hide it, keep silent or withold anything. He reported it to his superiors, the ones who gave the office and campus access to the pedophille. He said the graduate assistant did not give him the graphic details now being reported. For over 4o years he has served his University and its students without a SINGLE BLEMISH at all. Now due to the acts of SOMEONE ESLE, you wish to tar and feather him. It is horrible what happened but Paterno didn’t do it, didn’t cause it, and didn’t cover it up. So you vultures can sell a few more papers on a Wednesday afternoon you will ride him into the ground. Sharks with the scent of blood.

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JoePa could no longer continue at Penn State. Unsure even he really should finish the season thruthfully. The University had a idea somehting was wrong as far back as ‘98 and allowed this behavior to continue. The GA who is no the WR Coach needs to be fired IMMEDIATELY! Sandusky needs to be castrated and lynched in public following it. The Legacy of JoePa has gone the way of Woody Hayes and probably gets amplified by 10fold due to the nature of his departure. JoePa failed the University and the young men who fell victims to this crime for not ensuring it went as far as it should go, the authorities. He has no plausable denability when it comes to crimes like this. The Grand Jury Testimony is 23 pages long and is damning to PSU and JoePa. They all need to be fired.

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Ugly? How? Joe is doing the honorable thing. Enabled Sandusky? Trying to make it sound like Joe procured kids for his DC? Paterno has commited no crime. He utilized his chain of command, although I’m certain that he didn’t want to believe what he was hearing was true. True he could have done more, but if PSU is like most corporations or government entities, the chain of command stipulation in the S.O.P is there for a reason. That’s to protect EVERYONE.

Even with all (or perhaps, what little), that has been revealed, it doesn’t change the fact that Paterno deserves to go out as he has chosen to, if allowed.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-

have you read the indictment. it is literally connect the dots to see that he participated in a conspiracy to cover it up. then he also probably lied to the grand jury and committed perjury.

when you guys say what is the legal system for you should at least bother to read the documents the legal system creates in the process. Basically, this is just the beginning, wait until the feds get involved.

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Jeff -

This is a classic case of JoePa and others like him controlling the situation and thinking they can dictate the terms. In his opinion, why not? He has been the face of Penn State for so long, he thinks he is actually in charge. If he coaches this Saturday, it will become nothing but a circus with 100,000 people in the stands remembering what a great guy he was. Read the Grand Jury report and then ask yourself if this “great guy” should even be on campus at this hour of this day. This is way beyond sick.

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Penn Stater’s gathered around Joe Pa’s house last night will regret they did so one day.

They will all come to see that they were mistaken in their support of a man who:

ALLOWED A MONSTER TO STAY

ENABLED A MONSTER TO CONTINUE HIS DISGUSTING DESIRES

COWERED WHEN HE COULD HAVE RISEN UP

KEPT IT HIDDEN

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have any of you commentators bothered to read the indictment or just a bunch of dumb newspaper articles written by morons (present blog author excluded)

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How this McQueary could witness this and not immediately stop this is beyond me. Then to go call his Dad? Look, I dont care how old you are and who it is that is doing that, If you see what it is stated then you need to address that situation on the spot. He should have gone and whipped Sanduskys arse. No excuse, you go and standup for that victim.

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yeah, basically anyone who bothers to actually read the grand jury paper understands what is going on and everyone else is speculating on bits and pieces.

READ IT AND YOU WILL SEE WHY JOE PA SHOULDN’T COACH! (and should be criminally investigated)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html

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The grand jury found the GA credible. Also, what good would a statement from Joe Pa do? He already issued one where he pretended like this was a big surprise. And his statements to the grand jury are no different than the two of the AD and VP.

No offense but this is connect the dots and it’s only going to get worse. 2 to 1 odds the feds are already investigating.

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Few circumstances in life will cause a 180 degree turn in your love and respect for a friend .
This is one of them . I feel like notty dred . Mike McQueary should have whipped his ass til the blood ran down the drain .

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After being jostled by over 100 microphone-wielding reporters on his way to practice, I understand why Paterno does not want to appear at a live press conference. He probably should resign immediately. Paterno is certain to be hounded and slimed as the legal issue plays out. It is a shame Paterno buried his head in the sand as these charges developed.

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Nice Article Jeff. I think the Board of Trustees will take it further and demand he step down now. Joe sounds like he is trying to slither on out the season.

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With all we know, I dont see how as a player you could follow Joe Pa onto the field on Saturday. Do you still respect him as a coach and follow him onto the field? I couldnt do it, and I dont think you can respect him period!

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“The coach defended his decision to take the news to his athletic director. Paterno said it was obvious that the graduate student was “distraught,” but said the graduate student did not tell him about the “very specific actions” in the grand jury report.”

That statement is preposterous. There is no reasonable explanation as to why he did NOT ask Mike McQueary exactly what he saw.

Paterno is a coward and he is complicit in helping Sandusky to continue raping children.

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It is…UNCONSCIONABLE…for the PSU Board of Trustees to allow Paterno
to remain as a Coach or Employee of the University.

As more and more victims come forward, seeing Paterno continue on as a Coach or Employee
will be UNIVERSALLY viewed as disgraceful, unethical, and an outrage by the American public.

By dismissing Paterno RIGHT NOW, it will a positive first step for the Trustees to show
that PennState is now in the hands of RESPONSIBLE & ETHIAL ADULTS, and not
some pathetic, senile, child-molestor-enabling 84 year old.

Just dayum.

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It is like Warren Buffett once said, “You spend twenty years building a reputaion and it can all be destroyed in twenty minutes.” Whatever “good things” JoePa did for Penn State have gone down the drain. This incident will now be his legacy. Except, of course for the rah, rah crowd that will choose to look past this.

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SHAME on you, Penn State!!

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Just wow! Like you Jeff I expected more. This is the thing, the only ones that “know” what happened were in the position to sweep it under the rug or bring it to the light. None of those did that. We are talking the upper echelons of PSU, Joe Pa included. All these people were/are tops in their respective fields apparently, all fail miserably at being human beings. If it didn’t happen (which is looking less and less likely) they need to say so , now, in the court of public opinion. The legalities can take take of themselves. None of them are saying that. Forget the smoke, looks like a blazing fire to me.

Obviously, PSU’s priority is still it’s image with no remorse or contrition

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I sure hope the NCAA will get involved. There’s no way that PSU wins by letting this guy back on the field. What did Paterno know?
- Paterno knew the guy was a pedophile and the university did nothing, yet he sat idly by, for years.
- He was on the board of the charity that the pedophile founded and used as a hunting ground for young boys to rape.

Whoever made the decision to let Paterno finish out the season is a fool.

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who cares about joe pa. yes he should’ve made a bigger stink when he found out what happened with sandusky. but a university has it’s protocol and he followed it.

the person everyone should be trying to crucify is the university president! i dont’ even know his name. he’s getting a complete free pass in this and it’s a darn shame.

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You nailed it Mark – he should go, today.

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Jeff, this story isn’t over just yet. Joe Paterno may have “decided” to retire at the end of the season, but the PSU Board of Trustees are meeting this week to discuss next steps, which include the hiring of a new university president. I wouldn’t be surprised if they make a decision on Paterno too. He has lost the right to determine his fate.

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Is al Golden still saying he loves Miami?

He will be Penn State’s next coach.

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Stewart Mandell of SI has , in his bowl projections, UGA vs Penn St in the Capitol One Bowl. I had rather the Dogs decline and appear in a lessor bowl, or even no bowl at all, than to be a part of what will certainly be a circus.

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Paterno should have already coached his last game

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For those of you who say there is no proof Joe did anything wrong or that no one has had their day in court. Joe didn’t wait for a court case or arrest to ban Sandusky from football facilities. He was judge and jury….he just didn’t go far enough. Do you think Joe was wrong to ban him since there was no guilty verdict? Of course not, but he should have went to the police or at least followed up. Joe dropped the ball big time, and so far he’s getting off easy.

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The fact that JoePa thinks it’s ok to finish out the season tells you all you need to know about his character. But what else would you expect from someone that allowed this to go on, knowing what he knew. Good article Jeff. Ignore the idiots on here.

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joe should retire today. no more coaching.

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Dawgdad: If one of your workers walked into the bathroom of your department and saw one of your very best friends raping a 10 year old boy and he tells you about the noises he heard…..you can see that he is shaken to the core… And if you choose to only tell your supervisor and nobody does nothing. Then trust me, all of the “ADULTS” that had this information will be looked at as having covered up this crime against a helpless child especially on the hills of a massive investigation in 1998 against the same damn employee. DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

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Paterno told the grand jury that the graduate assistant, Mike McQueary, who is now on Paterno’s staff, told him that he had seen Sandusky “in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”

McQueary later told Curley and Schultz in a separate meeting — Paterno was not present — that he witnessed what he believed to be Sandusky having anal sex with the boy in the Lasch Building showers.

What this tells me is that JoePa didn’t know EXACTLY what was going on. I don’t think McQueary had the stomach to go into details with a 75 year old man.

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Jeff, according to Paterno’s son, Joe wanted to go ahead with the press conference yesterday, but Penn State officials shut it down without Paterno’s input. I just get the feeling that PSU officials (trustees and pres) are enjoying hanging Paterno out as the scape-goat when there are several others who had more opportunity and knowledge to have taken this entire situation to the police. Not entirely clearing Paterno, but there are a lot more people who did a lot less than he did. The Grad Asst, the janitors who all knew what one man saw, the grad asst’s father (who is in the medical profession and knows he has an obligation to report ANY hint of child abuse, and the AD’s who waited a week and a half before even talking to the Grad Asst. If all of those people covered up/did nothing, why is it so hard to believe that they would have told JoePa that it was all being investigated/taken care of/ etc.

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Older Woman young boy = Cougar
Older Man young boy = Nittany Lion

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Joe did not witness anything. Sandusky was no longer on his staff. I am sure the board of trustees approved Sandusky’s retirement plan allowing him full access to the facilities. I do not believe the football coach has the power to determine who gets what privledges and who doesn’t. Now the Board is acting high and mighty. Can anybody honestly say the board of trustees had no prior knowledge of what happened? heck Sandusky has even said that he knew about the pending charges over 3 years ago. The police department has know for several years about the charges while they worked on them. If it is so cut and dry, why did it take so long? I am sure Joe has lots he wants to say, but at this point nobody is letting him. Again the legal system working its magic.

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As the son of a pedophile and the brother of a pedophile, I can think of no excuse for JoPa to keep his mouth shut after discovering what was going on.The steps he took allowed this crap to go on for years.There is no high ground or due process that will make this right. He needs to be reminded about all the soldiers who claimed they were just following orders. They were wrong too.

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Its amazing how the AJC and all the reporters are coming to the defense of Herman Cain, when he was directly accused of doing something, not heard something second hand about somebody who was no longer on his staff. “Herman could never do something like that…..it was 20 yrs ago….blah blah blah. Several people knew what happened to these kids and nobody did anything, but Joe is having his legacy destroyed before all the facts are presented. Give Joe a chance to voice his side of what happened before you stone him.

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Shame on everyone involved to not put the predator behind bars.

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GT Joe:

No one is saying he committed a legal crime. But if someone knows about a child sodomizer and does not make sure he is apprehended by the police, you don’t think he’s culpable when the sodomizer continues his rampage? Jeez dude, get a clue.

HT

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GT Joe

Sorry that does not wash, JP knew everything that goes on in the Program, he waited a full day before calling his so called superiors? I wouldn’t be surprised if he called Sandusky before making the call. Sorry I have a son and I would have called the police and my superiors at a minimum. Just think if was little girls! There never any room for speculation when it comes to our sons and daughters being protected. Ever

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I would encourage people to read the actual indictment. When you read the horrific details of what happened to these boys, and how over the top the behavior was, I think you will realize as the police commissioner stated, there were moral failures in handling this situation better. Not just by JoePa, but the graduate assistant who witnessed the rape, the janitor who saw the sodomy and the administration.

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cmon man, I read the report. How do you know what the GA told Joe? Did he give Joe all the details about what he saw? Somebody above made a great comment that the GA’s father was in the medical profession and they have a legal responsibility to report what his own son told him. How come nobody is going after him? Shunning him from seeing patients? The court of public opinion is a very powerful thing, and unfortunately convicts before all the facts are presented.

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GT Joe. I hope GT doesnt stand for Georgia Tech. You usually have to have a certain IQ to be admitted to that institution…. and hell im a bulldog. For you to say Joe did all he could do says a lot about you sir. He got word that his friend was raping a 10 year old boy and he did all he can do. Okay. Great! He made a call to the AD. Dont call the Police Joe. Dont find the boy Joe. Dont whipp Sandusky’s Azz Joe, Nawwwww Just tell your boy about it.

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61 years of high ethics. It’s more than clear that he made a massive mistake in this incident, but give the man a little credit. I give more credibility to this man even at this time than ALL of the AJC reporters combined. He is retiring. He should have done more. But he is not the criminal here. Just a good man who did not handle a terrible situation well. Let the emotions cool and think about what you are writing.

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nope, this ain’t gonna be good enough, i don’t think

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@ In Joe We Trust, finally a well written response. I thank you.

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Guys you can put all the lipstick and rouge you like on this pig and it is still a pig. Joe Pa’s lack of action is giving him a hand in every child rape of Sandusky from that point forward. He is afterall, Joe Pa, isn’t he?

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Hmmmmmm,

Are you kidding? Good Grief!

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Jeff, you’re totally spot on, in both columns. These people who are saying Joe Pa is being “prosecuted” are not too bright. No, he’s NOT being prosecuted, b/c it “appears” at least that he did the bare minimum from a legal standpoint. He failed miserably, however, in meeting his moral and ethical obligations in this situation, in the process enabling Sandusky to sentence at least 6 (or many more we’re finding out) to a lifetime of pain. If he had any class and real integrity like he has sanctimoniously said all these years, he’d step down today. But that’s not the “icon’s” way.

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@ in Joe we trust
People have been talking about the GA……..
They are all as guilty!

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Enter your comments here

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When you see a crime and look the other way, you are just as guilty as the perpetrator.
How many other children were exploited since 1999?

Joe P. should not be allowed to be in the College FB Hall of Fame!
He has to suffer the consequences, just as other sports figures have.

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@DawgDad…….Are you CRAZY? I have a 9 year old son. If I witnessed an act that horrific, there is NO WAY I would have walked away. This was a little boy. A LITTLE BOY!!!!! Disgusting. What a sad, sad world we live in when an adult walks away from saving a child from a predator.

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Douglas – like I said, if what an attorney said was correct, he did report it to the head of the university police. Wouldn’t that have been more effective than reporting to Child Protective Services?

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Not so sure you guys would be so quick to jump on one of your own. Seems like you believe we don’t need a legal system. Let’s just go with any old allegation and hang the guy. Geez.

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I would expect that If JoePa had committed a crime he would have been indicted along with the others. But sometimes we have responsiblities that aren’t written in the criminal code. They’re moral in nature, and JoePa blew it.

I understand a young GA scared to act. He is an unpaid, low-level member of the coaching staff learning the ropes. He went to Paterno and the administration and explained all. He was not under a legal obligation to attack Sandusky and he probably looked to JoePa and his father for guidance as to how to report things. He probably assumed the campus police would be engaged by the administration (one of the two administrators he spoke with was over the campus police). He was also told that appropriate actions had been taken.

So, the witness reported it to three people, JoePa and the two administrators under indictment. None of these three engaged the police and the administrators tried to cover it up. JoePa didn’t break the law but his inaction led to a sex offender being on the loose for another nine years and who knows how many more sexual assaults. I take on its face that JoePa’s statement that he wishes he had done more. However, his lack of action led directly to additional victims.

Its time to resign. Immediately. No three extra games. No bowl. Resign and let the University start its healing process. If JoePa truly regrets his inaction and loves his University, resign.

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Paterno is not serving his team or the best interests of the University by announcing he’s retiring at the end of the season and staying on for the last three games. He should have said that he’s stepping down immediately and hopes one day to be vindicated of any wrong doing once all the facts are heard. At minimum he should say he will coach his last game Saturday from the coaches box so as not to create more of a distraction.

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Cardinal @12:04, my point exactly reagarding the GA.

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It might be a good idea for you people, indcluding Schultz, to get a few facts before you hang paterno.

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Some of you are correct though, being a coward, is not illegal.

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TechMan, you are a moron and a coward.

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I don’t know if Paterno is guilty but it seems that he and his organization think he is. I really don’t believe the arresting authorities would have movedon this without some sound evidence. If he is guilty of not reporting this to the authorities (Police) then he should absolutely be removed immediately. He should be investigated and charged appropriately, any victories he has after he was made aware of this child molester should be removed from his record. After all, it looks to me like he has proven by his actions that he cares about himself, his reputation and the reputation of his program far more than he cares about those innocent child victims. This is absolutely disgraceful.

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DOUGLAS…………….Joe Pa going to the police without PROOF means nothing. The Grad Ass was the WITNESS. What Joe Pa knew is considered Hear Say/ Rumor.
Douglas I heard you get drunk and beat your wife! I call the police to tell them what I heard. What do you think they will do or tell me? The WITNESS or VICTIM as to make the claim for an investigation to start or charges to be filed. Hear Say is not enough for Probable Cause.

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“If Paterno coaches in a bowl game, the atmosphere certainly is not going to seem like a season celebration, which is what bowl games were intended to be.”

That’s because yourself and every other media source race to be the first to make spectacles out of issues like this as if the world is one big reality TV show. Can you not wait until all the facts, statements, etc have been gathered before writing provocative articles and kicking this man to the curb?? Isn’t that what the legal system is for? But no, let’s sell some newspapers and bring advertising revenue to your blog and discredit Joe all for money’s sake, because just in case he does turn out to have been one of the bad guys in this case, you have to have been one of the first people to call it right?. Forget about libel when money’s involved, and forget that you are helping shape the opinion of thousands of clueless readers. Good job Schultz, way to use the 20/20 hindsight and outsider’s perspective to over-analyze and throw a good man under the bus and contribute to destroying a reputation that only took over 60 years to earn. I mean it’s easy to be 84 years old, coach a highly reputable university football team, AND deal with this scandal at the same time right?

Now write me a blog about ethics in the media…..

To everyone else attacking Joe, read the report. He was informed from the grad assistant about ONE of the incidents, and he immediately informed his supervisor, the Athletic Director who took it from there. Joe didn’t molest the kids, he wasn’t the one who was supposed to be investigating. His only fault was assuming the AD was handling the case appropriately.

But wait… I forgot everyone on here who has children themselves is entitled to pass judgement (ignorantly) on this man who has done more in his life than they ever have or ever will. Then again, you’re only focusing on Joe because that’s who the media’s talking about. Paterno’s getting more coverage than all the actual lawbreakers here, but if the media says it has to be this way, it must be ok.

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yay, I’m a coward and a moron! Thanks for adding value to the conversation, Matt. Full disclosure, if someone has a loaded gun and they’re committing a crime. I’m probably not going to try and stop them. I’ll get word to the authorities as quickly as possible. Matt – I’m sure you would run right in there and try to stop the perp.

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I’m still in disbelief that Joe Paterno was actually told of sexual abuse being perpetrated by someone under his supervisory control and did…nothing! Nothing at all to protect children from a sexual predator! He shouldn’t be allowed to retire at the end of the season but be FIRED TODAY! Furthermore, he should face criminal and civil charges for his inaction.

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A person SMART enough to know – your point is well taken. And that may be good enough for you or me. But neither of us are Joe Paterno – who, in 2002, had reached near deity status in College Station. He needed to call the police over to his house and have McQuery tell them what he saw. You are right – Joe did not have anything to tell them – but McQuery did and Joe needed to support McQuery. He is, after all, Joe Pa. Anything short of that was inadequate. “Sucess with Honor.”

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All those who would defend Joe Paterno, I would like to pose a question to you. If a graduate assistant showed up at your house, with his father, and told you that a man who had worked for you, who was with you virtually everyday, for the past thirty years was in a shower with a young boy in the locker room (here I’ll take Joe’s testimony that the GA said “it was something sexual in nature” rather than “rape” which is what the GA testified to under oath in front of the grand jury) this coach was a good friend of your’s, wouldn’t your first thought be to call that coach, that friend of thirty years, and say “I have some people in my house who are saying you were inappropriate with a young boy, get over here right away. I want to hear your side of the story in front of them.” He did not do that, in my belief, because he already knew the allegations were true. He went to the AD and said, I got rid of him after the 1998 incident (remember Sandusky retired in 1999) now you handle covering it up. He knew, he knew the man was involved with a foundation that targeted young boys and he said nothing. I for all the people who want “all the facts to come out”, the grand jury report was a synopsis of their findings. Believe me when I tell you a great deal of facts were presented to them that you, the papers, no one know about. That will come out at the trial.

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Joe is sad he got caught….

This is proof that CONSPIRACIES DON’T START IN A BOARD ROOM……When you create a culture of coruption and lying for money, your sense of morality erodes over time and you find yourself tolerating a PEDIFILE for your own interests….Wow

This is what MLB did…Steroids

This is what the NBA did…”Jordan Rules”

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FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY! This happened under his watch – he knew about it and let the perpetrator continue. What would all these “don’t crucify the guy” Paterno cultists say if it was their 10 year old son who was sodomized? And Joe knew about it and did the minimum? Total cover up and everybody needs to go. And NOT of JOES TERMS!

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Techman- was McQueary’s life in danger???? Would your life be in danger if you stepped in and did something in this situation??????

We are not talking about an innocent bystander witnessing a mugging in an alley. Joe Pa is in a high position of authority, it happened on campus by another trusted indidual, and was witnessed by another staff member. You don’t tell campus police and then throw your hands up and say “well, I wipe my hands of this”.

As a bystander in an alley you probably would never know if that criminal was caught or not. A little harder for police to find a random individual in a city. This was an assitant coach in a locker room, positively identified by another staff member and reported to the HC of a major university. Your comparison about putting your life on the line for a random street crime could not be further from being the same thing.

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Techman- kudos to JoePa for going to someone about it but you don’t just walk away. They would not have kept the GA on staff if it turned out not to be true. You don’t keep people on staff anywhere in any profession who make false accusations of that magnitude.

Of course the DA is not pressing charges on Paterno, he didn’t do anything illegal. Noone is trying to say he did. Being a coward is not illegal. McQueary is just as responisble as the rest of them, if not more.

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Matt – I could’ve sworn you asked me a hypothetical to which I responded. Now you’re telling me the hypo isn’t close to being the same thing.
In all seriousness, I can’t say for sure whether Mc’s life was in danger or not. It could’ve well been. If the allegations are true, I would imagine a person in Sandusky’s position could have the potential of doing harm to Mc. I’m still not sure what you’re getting at with those questions there, no matter how many question marks you add to it.
I think Paterno fulfilled moral and legal responsibilities. You don’t. I’ll probably have to let it go at that.

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Everyone associated with this matter – everyone from the graduate assistant to the university president – should resign, or be fired immediately.

Criminal, and civil trials will follow, of course. I hope the victims end up with everybody’s house, boat, airplane, retirement account, and shoes.

Scumbags!

Some of them should be horse whipped before jail. They will be killed by inmates in prison.

The graduate assistant saw what was happening in the shower, left the building, and went to talk with his father, who advised him to call the head coach and meet with him the next day?

What about the young boy in the shower? He saw him being raped, and left the building. Left the building! Left the building?

The head coach reported it to his boss, but what about the young boy? Was he still being raped in the shower?

This is not an innocent until judged guilty by a court matter. Read the published statements of fact, the statements of those involved concerning their own actions and lack of appropriate response on behalf of a child who was being raped.

What possible information could come out to justify not stopping child rape?

Address your letters of support to Joe Paterno as follows:

Joe Paterno
Hell

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this is all about trying to save Mike McQueary, who is their recruiting
person and really, the active “coach” of the team. JoePa is just walkin
back and forth to the booth the last few years.

and you can’t save him. He walked away from a crime against
a child. None of them should walk on state property again,
starting yesterday.

One thing I & my fellow alumni CAN do something about. None of the
five of them should ever walk on the Sanford Stadium property. You & I
can start making that happen with our telephones right dam now..

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Techman- so far here is what we know. MQueary witnessess pure evil in action, goes to bosses, bosses go to bosses who go to university police. Nothing happens and they return to work for the next 10 years.

Joe Pa told university police what he had heard. Great. But you don’t keep things like this quiet when that many people are involved. Of course Paterno is innocent, he didn’t do anything illegal!!

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College Football Expert – I also read Joe Pa’s testimony. What neither you or I know is what his actions have been over the last 10 years. You have what you think you know but that’s about it. As I have stated, let’s allow the trial to run it’s course and let more facts come out instead of allowing the mob mentality to ruled.
Good to know patience is appalling to you.

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Really Jeff..if somebody who worked for you told you that he saw somebody else who used to work for you commit a crime, you would call the police? I have asked dozens of people at different companies (I am a consultant) that question over the past few days and every single one of them stated that they would tell their superior. What would the police do if you called with that story? Did you read the Grand Jury investigation? Get off of your holier than thou pulpit!

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TechMan,

Sandusky was in the PSU weight room LAST WEEK! After months of grand jury testimony he was still allowed in the building!

Borrowing from Jay Bilas, but when you hear 60-year old man, shower, 10-year old boy, what else do you need to know or have clarified?

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TechMan,,,

Sir you are either too thick to read and interpret, or your an attorney who somehow can find rational in this coaches actions…. I really hope you are not in some sort of leadership position, because your thought process is FLAWED!

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He needs to go now. What possible good can come from his staying for the rest of the year.

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After UGA football players tested positive for drugs what did the coaches do?
Did Richt go to the police with the players to get them busted?
Did Richt Force the players to give up their suppliers and go to the police have have the drug dealers busted?
What is Richt’s job here? What is his MORAL obligation? How many other children are being turned on to drugs because Richt didn’t get the DRUG DEALERS busted?

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“With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I would have done more.”

I’ll bet those poor children do too, Joe.

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Looks like somebody also dropped the soap.

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No way he could keep his job. I can’t imagine many parents wanting to let anyone from Penn State into their house after reading the presentment.It was tough to read and made my skin crawl.

What I find most disturbing in these comments is the lack of compassion for the children. I know when I was 10-11 or so, the last thing I wanted was to take a shower with some middle-aged guy and “horse around”. What is wrong with you people? Do we have less compassion because the victims were boys instead of girls?

Joe Paterno’s celebrity status and privilege is on display for all to see. I can imagine anyone would feel this protective of some teacher, administrator, or coach in Middle or High School.

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Techman has pointed out the key fact: What did the Grad Asst tell Paterno. Look most Head coaches don’t go to work each day contemplating that their DC or former DC is a pedophile. Although an incident occurred in 98, thus the 2002 incident should have been a big red flag. However, Paterno is a legend—I think the grad asst did not provide the gory details to Paterno. It’s not something you can go tell a coach that you revere although you should never fear speaking the truth especially something as horrific as this. I think the GA said that he saw something that looked suspicious involvong Sadusky and a kid. I cannot imagine that he had told everything that he saw and JoePA just passed the info along. If so, Joe needs to go to jail as part of the coverup. A good journalist would do the hard work to find out this key info. Unfortunately, most take a few facts and then spew their emotion-filled opinion. Let the facts come out before we judge.

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Matt – I must’ve responded to someone else’s question.

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Jeff, Paterno issued a statement on his own with no university backing that he would retire at the end of the season. The board of trustees has not yet met so the university has not yet said if it would allow him to finish. He could still be gone as early as today.

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I hope my statements don’t imply that I don’t have compassion towards those children. I feel sick to my stomach about it and I hope I never have to deal with an issue like this as a parent. It’s a terrible situation. It still doesn’t excuse media and others rushing to judgment before all information comes out.

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GT Joe and TechMan would change their names….

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What I said (or meant to say) was that Sandusky could’ve hurt the GA. I did not say he would’ve been hurt by stopping the rape of a child. I’m not sure if we’re playing semantics here or not.

Really? So the GA can’t grab a broom stick or run and get help. At the very least if you were there you could have stabbed him with a protractor. Time for you to run along and let the grownups talk

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Where did I compare this situation to smoking pot? Hopefully you’re referring to someone else.

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Schultz….Please fix this. The headline to the story on the home page reads:
Paterno retires amid sex scandal

This is not a sex scandal. It’s child molestation.

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I believe that was the guy:A person SMART enough to know. He is obviously a tech fan as well

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Actually, Techman the Tool, I’m with you on running and getting help. I’m not sure why that wasn’t his first response to the situation if he didn’t become physically involved. My guess is he was so traumatized by what he saw is maybe he completely flipped out and just couldn’t make a sensible decision. In this whole situation, the GA’s actions are what are the most questionable to me. However, I don’t have a problem with supposing that he felt he was in danger, even though you seem to think it’s silly. Truth is , none of us know what we would do unless we were presented the situation.

I have a feeling this will come out eventually. If by letting the grownups talk, you mean rushing to judgment, have at it. It’s not my style.

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Joe Pa should have retired the day after Bowden did.

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The moral indignation against JoePa is amazing. People act as if he should have done more – yet placed in his shoes, they themselves would have done no more (and likely less).

Just think about this – this is one of your best friends for 30 years. You’ve known him well and how he and his wife adopted 6 kids. You’ve never heard anything untoward about him. One day, a co-worker tells you he saw your best friend doing something wrong with a 10 y.o. boy. If anyone states that they next thing they do is call the cops, they’re full of crap.

Most people are going to put their own judgement of their friend based on their own personal experience – not what someone they barely know tells them. Remember – JoePa didn’t see anything, he was simply told something by the GA. No one is going to put the word of a stranger above the word of a best friend.

That said, JoePa still alerted his supervisor which, when you’re emotionally invested, is the right thing to do. How many here would do that with a best friend?

Could he have done more? Of course – he could have called the cops immediately and runied a great friendship if the allegations turned out false.
Should he have done more? Hindsight say yes – but the legal system says no.
Would anyone here have done more? Not a chance. So stop the moral outrage against the man for a standard you yourself would not have met. The allegations are heinous enough and plenty of people should fry if they are proven true. But JoePa is not one of them.

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it makes me feel better to see a man and sports fan – take this perspective. it is amazing to me how many people are giving him excuses and i agree – to not stand up like a man now and give a public statement saids it all. he is inconvenienced by this and thats all!
if we go the sports and winningest coach route – didnt he fail as a coach and as a leader in handling his own coaches felony act. no matter how many wins, at the end of the day – that was the test of his leadership and he failed miserably. all of the chilren abused after the 2002 scandal have been effected as a result.

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Techman I thought you were asked to leave and let the grownups talk.

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Stop trying to compare this to another situation. This cannot be simplified into a simple petty crime or a street thug robbing someone.

This is unlike anything any of us have probably ever seen (hopefully) and some of you are correct in that Paterno did follow the change of command. However, again, this is not a situation where some kids got caught smoking pot. This was an act of pure evil on the part of Sandusky, a crime that he will certainly pay for dearly after this life. I would expect Paterno to not just simply report it but make it his number 1 priority. If it’s false, you fire McQueary and make a press statement so he can’t come back and accuse you later. If it’s true, you don’t sleep until it is resolved.

I am a school teacher. If I witnessed this I would not just report it to the campus officer and the principal and then go about my business. If they try to sweep it under the rug I call Fox 5 and the police. I call dfax and I call my attorney.

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People at Penn State have to be held accountable. Paterno included. “He dropped the ball”. Hell, this isn’t football. This is an employee at Penn State (a coach) raping a several under age boys on the campus premises and nothing was done about it after other Penn State officials KNEW about it. They all should be fined and jailed from the President down to the McQueary coach that witnessed it. You don’t turn a blind eye to such a heinous crime. Everything is not okay. All of these Penn State officials that didn’t report this to police might have as well held the boys down while Sandusky raped them…

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Sorry, TtT. Please commence to rushing to judgment. You’re good to go!

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I knew anybody putting something that stupid in these comments would have Bulldog in his moniker. Grow up this is just the next and not the last in a long line of fallen coaches. Only the current AD at Nebraska has done such heinous acts to win. Stepping in when his players robbed people, sold drugs and beat their girlfriends. Johnny Rogers won the Heisman because The big N covered up his past and when he graduated he returned to his life of crime because he was too wild for the NFL.

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If I were the parents of these boys I’d be at the lawyers office right now filing lawsuits against Penn State University,Pres. Spanier,J.Paterno,Hommoboy Sandusky,and McQueary.

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Baba – Sandusky will get his. He will spend a great deal of time in jail The people who enabled him to go about his perversion undisturbed should get theirs. If not criminally, then civilly. This is not a knee-jerk reaction. You, Techman and the like act like no investigation had been done. You seem to think that someone just pulled this scenario ouf of their rear one day and printed it in the paper the next. There was a two year investigation before any of this came out.

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Ted- Actually, I investigate privately until I’m convinced one way or the other. If the accusation are proven to be anything but 100% true I fire McQueary. Not true, fired. Can’t prove it, fired (or forced to leave). THrough interviews with the kids, video surveilance, etc. you won’t convince me there wasn’t some sort of evidence that could’ve been collected. Something other than sittin on your hands while everyone involved remains employed could be done.

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Sandusucky will get his in a court of law.

Paterno failed in a different way. I’ll bet he does not grace the sidelines (or press box) in the next game. He should just leave. Soon.

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Joe Paterno did not do what he should have done and I do not believe he did what was legally required of him. Your 10 year old son is being raped . Your neighbor sees it and calls his dad. He goes to his dad’s for advice. The NEXT DAY he goes to his boss at McDonalds and tells him. The Boss at McDonald’s calls the district manager who says this has nothing to do with us and you feel it is ok to let that go and you feel that they have all net there legal requirements? There are laws requiring immediate notification of child abuse. In Georgia you would be charged with deprived indifference for not calling the police or stopping the crime. They then aided and abetted his further molestations by doing nothing. I do not believe they have met their legal requirements at all. Further if it had been my son in the shower and I found aout about it you would still be searching for at least two bodies..

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Dear Dawg Dag

Only a bulldog fan would even consider for one minute condoning what went on at Penn State. No doubt you also wear a Falcons jersey on Sunday with the no. 7. Climb back under your rock.

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Baba- Paterno is the only one being argued not to be held responsible. That’s probably why the focus is on him. Oh, also because he’s the HC (has been for almost 50 years) is the all time winningest coach, etc.

To date, noone is trying to argue that Sandusky is free of blame.

If not enough evidence to convict then whey was McQueary still employed by Penn St.???

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Sandusky was ushered out the door in ‘99 after some allegations came out in ‘98. I checked PSU’s defense in ‘98 and ‘99 and they were pretty stout, so I doubt he was shown the door for performance reasons.

It’s hard to believe that Paterno didn’t know something before the ‘02 incident. If he covered it up 4 years earlier, that might explain his reluctance to go to the authorities in ‘02. Regardless, it’s inexcusable.

My sympathies are 100% with the abused children and their families. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about some deified football coach and his butt-kissing yes men.

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This stinks to high heaven.
I believe Jo Pa and numnerous others knew all along according to there actions.
They just didn’t want a big publicity circus and tried to control it within.
They were all in denial hoping it would just go away.
Meanwhile this scum of the earth was left to continue to prey upon these children while Penn State turns and looks the other way.
What a crying shame!

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Amazing how friendship with a colleague rapist like Sandusky can stop you from calling police to report this heinous crime. I couldn’t sleep at night if I knew I let a man rape a 10 year-old boy without reporting it. I want to punch all of these Penn State losers square in the mouth.

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“Both coaches did what was required and nothing more”

Exactly. Sometimes situations call for people to go above and beyond. Smoking pot v.s. rape of a child. One PROBABLY calls for a LITTLE more attention and effort than the other.

Scraped knee v.s. leg cut off- probably need to handle those situations a little bit differently.

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story is interesting but he went missing in 2005. I doubt this has anything to do with not pressing charges 7 years prior.

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You people defending Paterno scare the crap out of me. In ‘98, Sandusky was investigated for imporper behavior. In 2002, Sandusky sodomized a kid on campus. And people in position of authority that had a chance to stop Sandusky chose, for whatever reason, to put their heads in the sand and hope things went away. Sandusky was seen with kids on campus as late as 2007, and was on campus last week. How in the holy hell does anyone associated with the university allow the monster Sandusky anywhere near kids for 9 years!?! And then act surprised when a Grand Jury report comes out and Sandusky and 2 university officials are arrested.

The whole regime needs to tumble. Those defending Paterno need to shut up. You look like an idiot!

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Agree with Matt 100%

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The hysterical witch-hunting lynch mob that has been after a good, decent, hard-working successul man for years must be very proud.

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Jeff,

There is no way that Mr. Paterno did not know what was going on in and arounf “his” football program. Sandusky was in and around the facilities on a regular bases after retiring, with little boys in tow, and you expect me to believe that Mr. Paterno did not know that?

Why woule they tell Sandusky to not be on the grounds with kids if they did not have some knowledge that he had been in inappropaite situations with kids before?

They were only interested in him not doing it on Penn State’s campus, they care not at all that he did it.

He was not just an employee, he was there friend, and they turned a blind eye while he raped kids on that campus.

Absolutely sick.

Everyone that knew anything should go, and go now. None of this season ending retirement nonsence!

Get out now, you selfish prevs!!!!!!!

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Note the timeline of when Sandusky left when Mcquaery was promoted and you begin to question what Paterno may have known and when he knew it and it adds up that they took lessons from the Catholic Church on how to handle child molestation. The old man may finish his life in jail enjoying Sandusky as a cell mate

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All of these smart people in charge cashing checks worth hundreds of thousands and in Joe Pa’s case, millions of dollars. They are either greedy and over protective of their cash cow,with no respect to the welfare of helpless children; Or they are card carrying nambla members. I believe it’s the former. How sad .

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Can’t defend Paterno. This makes SMU, OSU and every other college football scandal pale in comparison.

Paterno and many others kept the issue hushed up. We *expected* better from Joe Pa. I don’t think he should go to jail, but he and many others should be gone ASAP.

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Thanks Michael G….. That about sums it up….

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Jeff
Why hasn’t the NCAA gotten involved or at least chimed in on this. Is it something that they would not really be involved in?

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@Ben, amen. To me, it’s very sad that the current Penn State football players will be subjected to the ridicule and derision that will be displayed when Joe Paterno enters the field or is announced. They have done nothing to deserve this. Paterno should go now and spare everyone further embarrassment.

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Two Similar Stories Break at Same Time and the Lesson Should Be Learned. An innocent man steps up to the microphone at 5pm yesterday, takes questions meant to entrap from a hostile press. The guilty man hides behind an email and is allowed to continue free by adoring fans.
Isn’t it educational and kinda funny that these two stories run at the same time. Paterno should be arrested as others have been in this case. The proof is there. I’m sending Herman Cain another thousand bucks. Gloria Allred is not picking my president.

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As soon as a few big money contributors make some noice, which will be done quietly behind the scences, he and the rest of his staff will be out!!!!!

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Jeff you are right on! When Vince Lombardi said “Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort, which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that is worthwhile”. This horrible price these CHILDREN paid is not what he was talking about. Read this and wrap it around your hearts and brains!

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/vince_lombardi.html#ixzz1dEl0Nla9

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Exactly. The school cannot handle its own investigation when a felony has been committed. Rape is as felony.

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Jeff you are right on!! When Vince Lombardi said “Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort, which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that is worthwhile”. He was not talking about the price these CHILDREN PAID. Wrap that around your hearts and brains!!

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If you drive the getaway car in an armed robbery you get charged with armed robbery too. McQueary,Paterno,and Spanier are all 3 contributors to these rapes for negligence in reporting it to the police.

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hammertime……………..where are you seeing that this was not reported to police? A DA was investigating so the Police had to know something from someone

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Jeff, Joe has to go…NOW! I did not read the entire 23 page indictment because after I got thru reading the first 6 it became repetitive and nauseating. I dont care how many years he has been coaching or how many games he has won or how good a man he is. He may have not violated the laws that were on the books, in fact I dont think he did, but he certainly violated a few that should be on the books. Making a statement thru email doesnt prove that he was complicit in a cover-up but it does prove that he (or his higher ups or both ) know that under cross examination by the press Joe Pa and Penn State would look like they were both complicit.

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Go read the Grand Jury report. It will make you sick. There was so much cover up it’s disgusting. Any fools out there that support Joe, McQueary any of the Penn St officials are idiots. I hope they all serve time in prison. There is NO WAY, NO WAY JoeP didn’t know something. Go read the reports. How Joe could allow that sexual diviant to walk the athletic offices at Penn State after what he had been told is beyond me. Sandusky should have moved in with Michael Jackson and then they could just abuse little boys together. I hope the moral fans of Penn State have the guts to boo Joe Saturday. I can’t in all my mind think he would show up. Then give us this pitiful excuse, “I wish I had done more.” Yeah Right!

What he was thinking: “But I had more important things to do like worrying about my football team. I mean after all he only raped some little boys, surely they’ll get over it.”

These parents that let their sons stay over at this perverts house? At least the one mom tried to do something. I would have hired a private detective and this sorry SOB would have been caught in something and locked up.

The one janitor that saw what happened became distraught. Cover up, Cover up, Cover up!!!

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On my job as a teacher, I am required to report any suspected abuse (sexual or otherwise) and I am expected to follow the chain of command – i. e., report to my bosses. This is what Joe Pa did.

Should he have done more given the circumstances? Probably so. But he did what was required/expected. He’s not perfect like some sportswriters I know.

BTW, I’ve never been a big fan of Joe. I’ve always begrudgingly respected him.

That said, I take his statements to be sincere and true. Go after the real villains in this case.

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Wow I am confused, Herman Cain molested Sandusky?

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LOL UF, I need a good laugh after all this sickening news

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Comparing the Cain and Paterno cases is absurd.
There were no children raped in the Cain case, only an idiot trying to get some, and didn’t know how to go about it(I don’t condone what he is accused of). You Republicans can thank your buddy Carl Rove, for your man Cain’s troubles.

Paterno, by his own admission, suspected his employee of having sex with a ten year old child, and did the bare minimum about it.
This man should resign immediately, and if he doesn’t he should be fired.
To all of you, who defend him, what would you have done in the same situaion, if you had been in Paterno’s position? Would you have passed the buck to the AD, and hope that the story didn’t get out?

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Just read the grand jury indictment, honestly does anybody remember old yellar? Walk him out back put one in his head. I believe i could do it myself, come back in and have dinner and go to bed.Absolutly disgusting POS!!!!!

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I would’ve passed the buck to the proper authorities, which is what Paterno did, according to what I read.

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Pass the buck, that’s called ducking responsibility

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Joe Pa needs to go now. It is only going to get uglier. I can see the OSU students in their “I took a shower with the PennState coaching staff and all I got was this lousy tee shirt” shirts. Penn State is finished for many years. Thanks Joe Pa and the rest of you jock sniffers who worship this guy.

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In the case of child abuse, I believe that the proper authorities would be the police.

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Both Paterno and McQueary should step down today! Not tomorrow, not this weekend, not next month, today!!!!!

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phil, once again, you show just how much of a complete idiot you are.

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Phil – It’s how reporting works now days. Which is sickening in itself.

Get the facts first… JP will make a live statement in time.

I dont feel news reporters are the right ones to ask the questions. Talk about sleeze and pot calling the kettle black.

The Furman Bishers of reporting are gone my friend.

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If you read the grand jury report, & then for the sake of giving him the benefit of doubt say Joe didn’t really know what was going on. Then they need to fire him for STUPIDITY!!!

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From the Orlando Sentinel:

“The year was 2006 and Florida State was playing Penn State in the Orange Bowl. At the time, Penn State coach Joe Paterno was asked about FSU linebacker A.J. Nicholson being sent home from the bowl site after he was accused of sexually assaulting a woman in his hotel room in the days leading up to the game.”

“Replied Paterno irreverently: “He may not have even known what he was getting into. … A cute girl knocks on the door. What do you do? Thank God they don’t knock on my door. I’d refer them to a couple of other rooms.”

What else do you need to know about the moral compass of JoePa?

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At this early point in the investigation Jo Pa and others likely can not report all the facts and what they knew or didnt know and when….

The DA and others are still investigating the incident and looking for more victims to make their case and I am sure Joe PA has been told to keep any comments generic for the sake of the investigations.

Reporters want the info now so they can report it. I really think that the responsible and concerned general public (readers) would rather have all the facts be collected and get it right before reporting.

Lay off reporters! In due time JP will speak. If warranted, then throw him under the bus or as Bradley says off the cliff tied to a car.

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It makes me mad when I hear the word “hindsight” used here. Hindsight has no meaning when this man that you were told about years ago, is in your building, using your facilities, bringing people into your areas – as recently as last week. There is no hindsight for knowing something, then never saying anything for the last 10 – 15 years.

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I’ll just be an idiot then.

But I’m not going to jump the gun in the absence of the entire story and join the lynch mob trying to run Joe Paterno out of town after 61 years for the actions of a sick bastard that JP likely didn’t have the full story on.

I assure you I’m all in favor of a bullet in the skull of people who do this kind of thing to innocent children.

However, I’m not in favor of shoot first, ask questions later with something like this. It’s not fair.

And I’m not defending anyone. Fry em all if it’s all proven. In the meantime, call of the lynching.

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kevdawg, he immediately alerted his supervisor, the AD (and yes that is his supervisor, even the grand jury report claims so; in response to those that claim the AD was not Joe’s supervisor) and an investigation was conducted. Was Joe supposed to conduct the investigation himself??? No of course not. He did his job by promptly alerting proper authorities and is not liable for the shabby investigation/cover up by others. Stop acting like Joe sat there and watched all these acts happen simultaneously in the same room. They were separate instances spread out over MANY years, so just because you are being given all the information in one report does not mean Joe watched it all happen last week and didn’t act on it. The crime is horrible, those responsible should be punished. Joe Pa is not one of those men that needs to be punished by this.
Nobody is defending the crime, the argument here is more of why are Schultz, the media, and half the ignorant people reading this mess so eager to throw Paterno to the wolves?? If you want to see a train wreck, go watch Jersey Shore, don’t force it upon an innocent man. If further investigation finds out he is lying or covering up anything, then have your field day. But until then, show the man the respect he deserves.

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It really isn’t that difficult to see that JoePa is guilty of participating in a cover-up. The degree of cover-up remains to be seen but will surely come out as the investigation continues.

According to the Grand Jury Report, Paterno was contacted the morning after the event took place and then he had the AD over to his house on Sunday to inform him. Then it was another week and a half before the AD called the eyewitness in to get more facts. What were they waiting for? To get their stories straight?

I would also have to question a 28-yr old man (a.k.a. “graduate assistant”) who contacts his father instead of the police.

This entire incident is a shame…

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I know there are some men on here that have a buddy that was screwing around on his wife/girlfriend behind her back. Did any of you go tell the wife/girlfriend?
No it is not child rape. It is committing adultery by omission. It is passing the buck by ignoring the facts and people are getting hurt.
There are a lot of Perfect people on here.
A lot of people making excuses for their teams coaches, players, & fans while condemning other teams coaches, players, & fans.

Hold those rocks UGA fans. Your house needs cleaning too. The biggest money man at UGA is on Board of Regents and a adulterer and EVERYBODY at UGA takes his money.
If Don Leeburn is doing such an excellent job, why, after 14 years on the Board of Regents, did he not know about the board’s policy against using university trademarks on alcoholic beverages? If he did know, why then did he openly violate those rules by distributing a wine with the UGA Alumni Association logo through his company, Georgia Distributing? And why did it take the geniuses at the board six months to figure out that Leeburn was violating the rules?
As for Mr. Leeburn’s “educational philosophy,” could that have been honed through an up-close-and-personal relationship with a member of the University of Georgia staff? Leeburn lives openly with UGA gymnastics coach Susan Yoculan, despite the fact that he hasn’t bothered to divorce his wife, Betsy, who still resides in Columbus. Details. Details. Maybe this doesn’t bother the governor or the university administration, but it bothers the hell out of me. Doesn’t anybody else think these two lovebirds aren’t exactly the kind of people we want to hold up as role models to our young people? My momma would have called what Leeburn and Yoculan are doing “tacky.” And my momma would have been correct.
Imagine the furor if a female member of the Board of Regents set up play-housekeeping with the UGA football coach or basketball coach while still married.

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Apparently it’s already been decided that Paterno met his legal requirements in the 2002 incident though there’s some debate about whether that’s true or not. The issue is whether he met is moral obligations and that’s a case that be debated in the court of public opinion. Unfortunately for Penn State the court of public opinion will matter because there’s bound to be lawsuits levied again the university and everyone there that’s remotely involved with this case. Even if the suits are settled out of court, the university stands to lose millions in donations, tv revenues, reputation, etc. While I’m a huge fan of Coach Paterno I don’t see how the trustees can allow him to coach another game – much less stay to the end of the season. If he truely loves the university as he professes to do, he (the President, AD, etc.) would resign immediately and not force the university to take action.

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If the DA did not press charges, a reasonable assumption to make is there was not evidence to prosecute. Are you advocating Sandusky should have had a label attached to him even there there were no charges?

Again, you say he did not fulfill his moral obligation. I feel that he did. Nothing really to argue. In light of the current facts you won’t change my mind and I know I won’t change yours.

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The reason Paterno’s press conference was cancelled is because there is no way he won’t answer questions very truth full and the reporter will have a field day with it. If nothing else Paterno seems to be a very honest man and will answer to the best he can. Penn State and all that are involved are subject to law suit’s from the victims and if Paterno was allowed to answer questions the public would see just how bad everybody involved looked the other way.

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Daniel, are you serious? You think the indictment, drafted by the state, and rubber stamped by a grand jury w/o being tested by defense counsel could possibly one-sided?

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Whoever made the comment earlier in the day saying that if that had been one on JP’s grandchildren, he would have moved heaven and earth to take Sandusky out. But oh well it wasn’t so, no big deal.

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For those of you who continue to defend Paterno ask yourself this. If you were in Paterno’s shoes and received the GA’s report, would you not ask for specific details – particularly when the GA was concerned enough about what he saw to report it and because it involved a child. By not trying to determine the facts – or by not accurately relaying the events up the chain of command as they were told to him by the GA (which may be the case) – isn’t he guilty by omission and complicit in allowing Sandusky to continue to molest young boys?

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Well hello, gullible doofs out there!

The man apparently had 40 years to abuse these kids. There will be many, many victims of this horror before it’s all over with. Assuming everything is true that we;ve heard about Sandusky, none of it covered any period of time before the 90’s. OF COURSE there will be more now that they are emboldened to say something. Predators don’t usually just wake up one day at age 50 and decide to have at it.

Like I’ve been trying to say, let all the facts come out before shooting everyone you see just because some media person says they “did” something.

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A smart enough person apparently to sound like phil. Both idiots!

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You are insane. I personally think Leeburn is a slime bag. However there is no comparison between consensual sex between adults, even in an adulterous setting, and child rape. If you think the two are equal do everyone a favor and drop dead.

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You, reckingball, only repeat soundbites you hear in the media – moral compass – because you lack the intelligence to think for yourself.

You don’t see the difference with this and the stupid Braves?

Good. Please don’t comment to me anymore. I asked you to stop months ago because I couldn’t take the rock-like skull of yours through which no rational observation can pass.

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My question is this to those who want to protect Paterno. If you had a neighbor who was molesting young boys and you knew about it, would you report him to your neighborhood association and feel you did all you needed to? Then continue to let him come on your property with your kids around? No, you would report it to the police. Paterno did not do enough and has said so today. They guy and the university screwed up and will pay the price for a long time to come.

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This guy was Paterno’s friend, his heir apparent and worked with him for 30+ years. The real problem is when he heard the comments he didn’t do everything he could to get to the truth of the matter. He simply did the least amount of effort required by law and then sat on this for the last 9 years. It doesn’t make him a criminal but it sure as hell destroys his image as Mr. Morality. He needs to go, NOW.

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@Top Dawg, Ask yourself this. Are you saying the GA showed more concern than Joe? He waited until the next day to tell Joe, who DID pass the information up the chain of command. An INVESTIGATION was then conducted (you know, one of those things where they TRY TO DETERMINE FACTS). He told the AD that the GA had seen Sandusky doing something of a sexual nature with the child, so its not as if he didn’t accurately relay the info either.

Ask yourself another question, did you form your own opinion or did the title of the article form it for you?

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A person SMART enough to know……

November 9th, 2011
3:10 pm
PHIL………….that is not libel………..I posted an article. I didn’t write it. The FACT is Everybody knows about Leebern and has for a long time.
Adams the Church of Christ Moral man and Richt the good Christian Moral man have no problem accepting all Leebern’s money. I am pretty sure a good chunk of Richt’s salary comes from Leeburn’s Devil Water Profits.
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If it’s college football, it will involve corruption. No kidding, nothing new, ok.

I’m simply suggesting that messing with a powerful person like this guy with incendiary stuff like you’re saying probably isn’t a good idea.

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Actually, I am defending JoePa in regards to his moral responsibility. I believe he fulfilled it. That is based on the facts we currently have.

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North ave Moron………….go smoke some dope with Joe Hamilton. Pretty sure you have defended some questionable things Tech Coaches and Players have done. Did you defend or throw under the bus the Tech player accused of beating his girlfriend? He was never charged.
Joe Pa did follow his chain of command. The rest of the judgment is between God and Joe Pa. Joe didn’t break the law. The Secret Service men didn’t break the law by not reporting that bill Clinton was having Sex with Monica in the White House. Didn’t they have a Moral Responsibility to tell Hillary and bring down the whole administration? Joe Pa told the power people what he heard. Don’t put your MORALS on others unless you apply your morals evenly to everybody.

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You guys are nuts if you think Joe Pa didn’t know what was going on !! He knew the details from the graduate assistant and if you think he didn’t your just as stupid ! His lack of action caused other boys to be molested plain and simple. !

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Techman. So you think by simply reporting it and then ignoring it for the next decade was doing his moral obligation? This guy was a decades long friend. At the very least shouldn’t he make sure the allegations weren’t true? You’re giving JP a pass he doesn’t deserve.

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Personsmart has a major hard on for adultery. Did your wife cuckold you? Once again adultery /= child rape. Simple to understand.

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Casey Anthony was acquitted, doesn’t mean she didn’t kill the child. Just not enough evidence for the jury to convict.

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We have zero idea if he ignored this for a decade or not.

Paterno isn’t the FBI, a lawyer, a prosecutor, a grand jury, an investigator, etc.

He’s a football coach. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t do enough.

Why not just wait and see. Is that so hard? Apparently it is for many.

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personsmart?…………..According to GOD’S Top 10 list of bad things they are exactly the SAME. Don’t use the morals argument and then ignore God’s code to morals.
Legally Joe Pa did what he should. Morally maybe not. Legally Leeburn hasn’t broke the law either, but Morally he is no different than Sandusky & Joe Pa. RIGHT? please apply your Morals evenly or not at all.

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This is my question to Paterno: After you found out what McQueary saw WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU STILL BEFRIEND AND HAVE SANDUSKY ANYWHERE AROUND YOU?

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This is an example of what Occupy WallStreet is about. The Top deciding how to run things. Follow the dollars and you’ll understand why the cover up. Even if JoPa came forward he would have done so at his own demise. In the end, its all the same.

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Merciless, you are joking right? Occupy Wallstreet gets tied into boys being molested? Time for your meds.

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Sorry, but God means nothing to me. I’m an atheist. And if those crimes are equal in your God’s eyes then he’s a big a loser as you are.

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Paterno has destroyed his legacy. He will always be remembered as Coach Coverup of Pedo State, who did nothing when informed by a young grad assistant that his long-time coach of what, 30 years?, a man he KNEW was always in the company of young boys, had created a home for young boys, brought young boys on weekend game trips, to coaches meetings, into locker rooms (really, it’s all in the Sandusky Grand Jury document), when knowing all this, Paterno still chose to do NOTHING meaningful and may even have downplayed the crime, when he was told that Sandusky raped and sodomized a ten year old boy in a Pedo State football lockerroom.

That’s the truth of the Paterno legacy: Coach Coverup of Pedo State.

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Put the old billy goat out to pasture and while you’re cleaning house order some new uniforms that don’t look like the good humor man.

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Techman. From reports I’ve read Sandusky was a regular on campus as late as last week. Also after the 2002 incident they told him not to bring children back into the complex. That speaks volumes as to whether they thought the charges were spurious. So yes the old adage applies, where there is smoke there is usually fire. Joe and the other admins knew and swept it under the proverbial rug. He and they need to go, now.

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The only reason Paterno is saying he should have done more is because the truth finally came out. If the indictment had not come out and McQueary had not spoke out Sandusky would still be welcome at Penn State and Paterno would still be welcoming his friend to Penn State.

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Buffalo Bill @3:15, what I have heard most people on this blog is the status of Joe Paterno and his continued fitness to serve as Penn State’s head coach. It is not about Sandusky’s guilt-that will be detemined by a judge, jury or plea. Nothing in Paterno’s limited statements indicate he was not aware of some irregularities. “I wish I had done more,” doesn’t sound like a man who thinks nothing happened. So the issue of what Paterno did is the issue at hand and one can make a decision about Paterno’s actions without reaching the question of Sandusky’s guilt.

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reckingball – my issue is that JP nor others should be expected to talk details of the incident when this crime investigation has not been completed. Jeff should not expect JP to enter a press confrence and answer any and all quiestions until it is time.

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Amen, Techman. Amen.

That said, does it LOOK good for Paterno?

No. Obviously it doesn’t look good.

And yes, he says he wishes he had done more.

I wish I had done more before a relative of mine committed suicide a few years ago. I realize there’s a big difference here, but my point is that sometimes these “realizations” aren’t as obvious as the peanut gallery would like to think they are.

Walk a mile in those other shoes first, know it alls…..

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personsmart?

November 9th, 2011
3:33 pm
Sorry, but God means nothing to me. I’m an atheist. And if those crimes are equal in your God’s eyes then he’s a big a loser as you are.
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Congratulations on your athiest beliefs. Thanks for sharing.

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God phil, that was a pathetic attempt to rationalize Paterno’s actions or lack of. Please feel free to try again.

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I only brought it up because the “original” personsmart played his God card. And you’re welcome.

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Kramer, can you give me a link that says Sandusky was in Paterno’s inner circle recently?

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Shyril…

To your point, what would you do if someone told you exactly what the GA saw? You’d think JoPa would say he (Sadysk) has to go!! Today!! Right know!! He had the power to do that. He had the responsibility to ensure that. It was hidden for 12 years. It is just as horrible as though it was yesterday.

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So tech man if you saw a man molesting a young boy and you reported it to lets say to a security guard you would feel you have done all you can. Then when you hear that these actions are still going on you would sit idle because hey, you reported it once. What do you care? Paterno is better then that he is admitting it today.

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You’re right, Kramer.

You’re in the inner circle and have al the facts.

I’m sorry.

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And I apologize for misspelling all….

I’m so stupid…

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I knew i had heard that manifesto before, smart enough sounds alot like 5150,how on earth could you compare pot,adultery,and a bj in the oval office to this? Thanks for clearing things up, and u call me a moron.

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Is it really necessary to make this a religious issue? Being atheist doesn’t mean not having morals. Again, an inability to create a logical response.

Sorry but morals are not a black and white issue, probably one of the least black/white issues there can be.

And now I have learned that regret is only felt by criminals.

Good job, fellas!

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No phil, it is just common sense. 34 years together and allowed on the campus whenever he wants. If Paterno wanted to cut ties with Sandusky over this then do you think he would have been allowed on campus? Who do you think runs that football team down there and everything associated with it? The AD?

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People ignore the trolls supporting Paterno. They just want to see their user name in your posts as you reply to their hogwash. Paterno is guilty to everyone who saw the evidence. Anyone supporting him is just a troll trying to get people riled up. That’s why they keep posting and posting. Ignore them.

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Disgraceful. He should be man enough to step aside NOW. Not in January, but NOW. There are over 10 victims under the age of 12 who were raped in Joe Pa’s locker room under his watch, he knew about it, and there are serious questions about his involvement. The statement written FOR HIM by someone else is crap. I hope he gets abused himself in his final four games.

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People ignore the trolls supporting Paterno. They just want to see their user name in your posts as you reply to their hogwash. Paterno is guilty to everyone who saw the evidence. Anyone supporting him is just a troll trying to get people riled up. That’s why they keep posting and posting. Ignore them.
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It’s quite possible that you’ll win idiot of the day for this nonsense.

Evidence? Which law school granted you a degree?

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UGA INSIDER………………..this is a Legal issue. The NCAA has now jurisdiction here or power to do anything. If you think the NCAA should do something, then maybe they should have Drug Screens for every athlete. If they fail, then a standard penalty and possible arrest for illegal drug use. Like many have said there is Only Black & White/ Truth or Lie.

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Joe,

He reported the rape to the athletic director more than 24 hours after it was brought to his attention and then never asked about it again. He also watered down the the situation that was reported to him according to the testimony of his bosses. Say what you want, but he deserves everything he gets. A hypocrite of the biggest magnitude!

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If all the people on here had their way. I am sure a lot more innocent people would have been executed over the years. I hope nobody lives in the county where this trial will be held. None of you could honestly be on the Jury since you KNOW who is already guilty and formed you opinion.

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Joe,

Read the indictment. Also there was no investigation because it was never reported to the proper authorities even though four levels of Penn State Employees were informed. Not one called the police even though the police fell under the org chart of one of the people in the know.

Also, the 1998 police investigation was called off by the Chief of Police who reported to the same guy.

JoePa just turned away, he could have been what he preaches but chose not to be.

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Here is a link to the Grand Jury Summary:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf

My question is how a 28 year old man walked in on a 10 year old boy being sodomized and left him there to go home and talk to his daddy. He should have intervened right then in the locker room and called the police.

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Kramer…the big picture here is the issue. Occupy Wallstreet does relate. The mother who wanted justice in ‘98 was silenced because of the weight of the allegations. The same way corporations take advantage of employees and communities. Molested boys and JoPa is the story. If it was any other story you dirty rats would still trample thru the trash looking for scraps.

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This is not about Paterno’s guilt or innocence-he has discharged his legal duty according to the authorities in Pennsylvania. The issue is given the information detailed in the presentment, which Paterno has not contradicted, are Paterno’s actions sufficient to discharge the expectations PSU had of the head coach of it’s football team.

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I wonder what Lou Holtz would have done in the same situation. I guarantee he wouldn’t have taken the same road as Joe.

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So many people confuse or conjoin our judicial system, including its process and burden of proof, with our social/moral system with its process and burden of proof. The latter is and should be much less stringent than the former. There were NO facts and circumstances or explanation of a grown man being in a shower with a child at night that would NOT have morally required immediate involvement by law enforcment and PSU authorities, as soon as each and every individual found out.

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guys…..come on. There is NO WAY they are going to allow him to coach again – or this weekend! Before Sat, they will make that annoucement. They may not officially fire him, but no way are they are going to let Joe or his assistant on the sidelines or in the press box. The President will be gone by the end of today……and keep in mind I grew up a HUGE Penn St. fan as long as I can remember.

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I wonder if McQueary has an children? Do you think he would have acted differently if that had been his son he walked in on with Sandusky? But the fact remains, the child was someone’s son and deserved the same protection as you would you own child.

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Grand Jury has a point though – Sandusky should’ve been in jail that night.

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The “if it were your children” argument is not a good example. If it had been my kid, I would blame EVERYONE, including the security guard to find out how he could let something like this happen. I would probably blame the car company that sold Sandusky the car to get to the gym. I would blame the Second Mile for allowing Sandusky to work for them.

As someone stated earlier, emotion should not be a factor here.

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No, the problem is the person that witnessed the ordeal first hand did not see it fit to alert the authorities. I’m fairly certain had the GA notified the police immediately reporting an attack, this would’ve been handled immediately.

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I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house the other night, but I didn’t call the police because it wasn’t my problem. Now he’s mad at me! I don’t know why, I didn’t do anything legally wrong.
I can’t understand, why he doesn’t want to play golf with me this weekend?

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Joe,

Also who is really running the show. Paterno called the AD to HIS house. Last time I checked, people usually don’t have the boss come to their house for discussions, it is usually the other way around.

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Now that makes one think, kevdawg

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IF I even suspect that a child is being abused I am required to report it not only to my superiors but also to the proper authorities so that an independent investigation can be conducted.

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I read the entire grand jury indictment today and I was physically ill. Everyone involved
in the cover up should be charged with a crime. They acted the same as the Catholic Church.
All those little boys had their innocence stolen and will never be the same.

SHAME ON PENN STATE for putting football before the welfare of children.

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No there wouldn’t be as many people in prison if we were in control, because we’d shoot the one that deserved it and wouldn’t let them drag out the court systems for years waiting to die. The rest would have early and swift punishment and then younger kids would hopefully get the message sooner. Oh yea, we lock up dead beat dads too. Never was anything wrong with the chain gang.

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Don’t let the trolls rile you up by posting garbage supporting Paterno. Paterno will get his for his crimes.

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Techman I will agree with you on the GA should not have gotten past him without law enforcement being called. But you have to wonder about the environment that would make him think twice about doing that. He obviously knew who Sandusky was, did he think about the boy or the program and university. We know what happened, but who creates the environment that would foster putting the program before a crime being commited against a child.

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If most “real” men walked in and saw what this ga saw, especially a dad, this perv would still be pulling GA boot outta his a$$ after 9 years. I doubt any of us have ever seen a more sickening sight than this graduate assistant saw. I would gladly face a jury of my peers for stomping his guts all over that shower.SOB!

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@Phil and Techman.. Thank you for being some of the only sensible ones not taken in by the witch-hunt.

To everyone saying “If it was your child…” If it was my child, I would be upset at the GA who, being a 28 year old adult, witnessed the event and ran to daddy unsure of what to do. I would be upset at the Athletic Director and University Police for conducting a shabby investigation. I would want Sandusky to fry in court. I would wish, as Joe does, that he had done more. BUT once emotions subsided, I would also realize that he did exactly what anyone else would have done at the time, contact proper authorities and let THEM do the investigation.

Paterno will leave Penn State because of this, so all you mob members don’t have to worry about that. But please acknowledge that you don’t know all the facts yet (and never will because you only know what is written in the media and what is written in summaries such as the grand jury report released) and also acknowledge that despite everything going on now, the man gave fans over 60 years of great football and in that same time gave generations of kids a chance at a great education. I know its easy to focus all the attention on him because he’s the head guy, but think a little and wait for more facts (as opposed to the speculation most of you seem to love) before you pass judgement.

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JoePa and the rest involved better hope that the laws imposed on the teachers in the State of PA do not apply to them. Legal proceedings may not be out of the question. I would suggest he keep his mouth shut. The principal at the high school was the only one in a leadership position that responded correctly according to the law.

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that is how it is in GA, I have to report to the state authorities so that an independent investigation is conducted, so that a cover up, as happened here, will not leave the child at the mercy of their abuser.

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@IFNOTHINGELSE where does Patreno fall on that list. He is a Football Coach. He is not an administrator or teacher. I see that Praterno did what he was supposed to do. From that law you posted he is not legally required to do much more.

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Actually, Joe Pa is in the clear on that charge because he reported it to his superior. It seems like I saw an attorney on tv mention it.

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techman – the law says to report to Department of Public Welfare of the Commonwealth, this is not the AD. He may not be clear

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To DawgDad: I guess you left the Occupy meeting long enough to catch The View and then post your incredibly naive comments here. Open your eyes.

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Those on the list have to get some classes on identifying child abuse I would think. A football coach would not have to go to those seminars/classes. I don’t know for sure, but I wouldn’t think that to be the case.

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5150 it says a teacher, a counselor, or an administrator. A janitor would not fit the bill. I think it would depend on how they hire their coaches. I know that many universities structure the hire like a professor and then the athlectic department supplements further. just sayin he may want to consult an attorney before he says too much.

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hey beach dawg and all other head in the sand idiots!!!! Read the grand jury report!!!!!!!!! I am a long time fan of college football and HAD the utmost respect for Joe Paterno…….until this. If you can read that report and still think Paterno had no knowledge of what kind of POS Sandusky was and what he was doing, the fact you share air with the rest of us is scary

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Techman did you input (supervisor) show us the link

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no, I didn’t input anything…..http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/11/09/joe.paterno/index.html

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@Chris, the grad assistant surely today regrets his lack of involvement that night…don’t you think? Too bad Penn State does not regret also and tell their shamed coach to just leave now.

Still wish TechMan would change his name.

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I wish, is that better?

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Sorry, not for me. Go tell the police, no I won’t that’s my boss. Oh well, too bad for the kid.

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If you won’t do it I will.

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but you would risk that the story is true and that the child would continue to be abused by his predator?

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Paterno should have retired years ago. He, with entire PSU community, built himself up to be some sort of king with teflon coating. The fact that he didn’t do anything about the abuse in 2002 (or even before then, as may have been the case) absolutely proves that he’s not living in a modern world. How on earth do his players have any respect for him after this? I’d personally like to ask all his recruits to reconsider their commitments – head South boys, the SEC and ACC welcome you!!

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So, do you roasters really want to see Joe Pa behind bars? And if you don’t, why not? Either he enabled child molestation or he didn’t. So, all you loud mouths who are calling for his immediate resignation are as morally corrupt as he is if you don’t insist on him doing a long stretch in the big house. Be consistent. And don’t give me the baloney about “well, leaving PSU would be punishment enough because of his stature there”. Bull. Either really roast him, or take a chill pill and let the university do their investigation.

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How JoePa takes the field Saturday is beyond me. How Sandusky breathed fresh air on this side of a prison wall for all these years is beyond me. How a kid suits up feeling good about putting on the uni and taking the field to represent PSU is beyond me. I would hope some of the current players would grow a pair and boycott playing. They already see what the program thinks of them as humans. ESPN, the bottom feeders will be right there to televise the pedophile enablers and PSU will continue to make money. If the NCAA has a consious they will give the program the death penalty. That whole coaching staff knew!! They all need to go too. Coaches don’t come and go at PSU. There is no Paterno coaching tree out there. Once you’re there you’re there for a while. McQuery knew the ramifications of outting Sandusky in the PSU world, his spot in the PSU circles would be tarnished. HE SACRIFICED A KIDS WELFARE FOR HIS OWN GAIN!! That’s why he didn’t come forward, stupid coward. Give the athletes a chance to transfer to a school of their choice without having to sit out for going to another D1 program. ANy coach on the staff is banned for life from coaching. All administrators involved serve real jail time. I wish this thing had a happy ending but there is none, there’s more to follow.

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Well said Beach Dawg, we are a society of laws and we don’t convict people in the media. Some of us forget this from time to time. While I find the entire thing disgusting, I also am a Christian, who was taught to obey the rule of law and to embrace forgiveness and to show mercy. This is a time when we all collectively need to remember the fundamental values of our society which are under attack.

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you idiots who say “you don’t have all the facts” and “I’m going to reserve my judgment until I have all the facts” could do some research and GET the facts. The Grand Jury indictment, all 23 pages, is on-line and you can get a WHOLE bunch of “facts” that you seem to lazy to go and get for yourselves. Or are you going to wait for the media to spoon feed you? Grow up and start finding out for yourselves before you start accusing others of ‘not having the facts’.

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Donaldo, I’m willing to show Sandusky, McCreary, Paterno et. al. the same mercy that was shown the children.

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This is like the movie “Doubt.” no one really cares about who’s guilty or even about the victims. Everyone just wants someone to blame for something. Who cares if he’s guilty or not. Suddenly, enabling or “not doing enough” is the worst crime imaginable, who cares about the actually perpetrator.

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doggoneit,
A 60 year old man in the shower with a 10 year old requires no other details. Any person on the face of this earth that did not call 911 after having been notified doesn’t deserve to breath the same air as the rest of us.

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Come on people, Joe knew, JOE KNEW!!!!!

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You hold JP accountable for an “Incident he knew nothing about” Fools all of you!

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Penn State University’s Board of Trustees should not allow Nittany Lions head football coach Joe Paterno to merely resign and retire. The board should forcefully fire Paterno, sending a message that the personal safety of university students, staff and campus visitors is the school’s first priority. The board should also announce that the university’s security, crime prevention, and crime reporting protocols will be revised, with new procedures in place designed to enhance safety and ensure immediate communication with campus and city police when crimes are witnessed by any school employee.

Penn State in 1998 should have fired Jerry Sandusky and permanently banned him and his Second Mile foundation from university property after campus police investigated and confirmed at least two credible complaints against Sandusky, alleging that he was engaging in predatory inappropriate physical contact with minor children in the school’s shower rooms. Two detectives, with the consent of the mother of one of the victims, eavesdropped on two conversations the mother had with Sandusky in which he admitted, according to the Associated Press, showering with and touching her son and other boys, and admitted that his conduct was wrong. The county attorney should have filed criminal charges against Sandusky but refused to do so. However, Penn State’s president and athletic director still had the necessary “just cause” to fire him—and their failure to do so needlessly exposed countless other underage boys to Sandusky’s depraved criminal conduct for another ten years.

Mike McQueary in 2002, then a graduate assistant Penn State football coach and now the Nittany Lions’ wide receivers coach, claims he saw Sandusky performing anal sex on a 10-year old boy in the team locker room shower area and immediately left the building INSTEAD OF rushing into the room and rescuing the defenseless child. McQueary’s cowardice is outrageous, inexcusable and unforgivable, and the fact that he reported the assault to Joe Paterno the next day does not pardon him for his failure to help a child in desperate need of protection. Paterno passed the information on to Penn State AD Tim Curley, but he should have also told Curley that the two of them were going at once to the university president’s office and the three of them would immediately disclose the allegations to the city’s police department.

Penn State’s board of trustees should terminate the employment of any university administrators or coaches—including President Graham Spanier—who are proven by the court system or the school’s disciplinary procedures to have failed their legal duty or professional obligation to report Sandusky’s alleged crimes against children promptly and directly to local law enforcement officials. The Penn State employees who failed these children should not be allowed to merely resign or retire; they should be fired.

I am astonished and infuriated that some of these Penn State people over a period of 14 years (1994-2008) apparently did not feel any persuasive humanitarian impulse to alert police to the complaints and allegations of child sex abuse against Jerry Sandusky. I hope they are tormented with guilt and never experience a good night’s sleep again.

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@ Beast….yep I’m with you…I fire the guy for taking a shower next to a 10yr old boy even if I don’t see any touching….as you stated, no other details are necessary….this whole thing is nuts…I’m astounded that Paterno will be on the sidelines this Sat.

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I’ve spent the past 30 years studying the effects of trauma and providing psychological care to people who were abused as children. When a trusted authority figure violates vulnerable children, the damage to mind and body can last a lifetime. The failure to take aggressive action to determine what Sandusky was doing, stop him from doing it, and provide all necessary support to those who were victimized by him cannot be dismissed or excused, despite the fact that Coach Paterno has also done much good in his other ways. The powerless depend on those who use power for good to protect them from those who use it for evil.

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@ 5150…I’d settle for him stepping down….I don’t spit on graves..he’s a stubborn old man..he hasn’t “coached” in years….he’s selfish..and his son is as big as bread truck…they are all trash….

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Like Bobby Bowden, Paterno stayed too long.

Still, here he did not do a coverup. He brought it to the proper person. I’m sure he had hard time believing it from this man who worked for him for so long, whose family was probably close to Joe’s. So he put it out of mind and perhaps assumed, as, of course he wanted to believe, that the investigation did not prove the deed. He himself did not see the act, so there always was room for doubt. People will believe what they want to believe. Not his finest hour, but, for all the outstanding good he has done, he should be allowed to leve gracefully.

On the other hand, strange that Sandusky retired at 55 at the height of his success. Was there a reason?

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Allowing Joe Paterno to coach though the end of the season and a mistake and disgrace, and it’ shows a huge lack of respect and concern for the victims. Joe Paterno is an enabler and doesn’t care about anything outside of his players and the university. See quote from Paterno:

“I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

This happened over a long period of time because everyone involved was looking out for the welfare of the University instead of the welfare of defenseless young boys. I guess Paterno only cares about the young men entrusted to his care and everybody else’s children can go to hell. He doesn’t give a rats ass about anyone outside of that university. I hope he burns in HELL!!!! And I hope the fans at the two remaining away games give him hell too! He needs to step aside NOW out of respect for the young boys who were victimized by Joe’s friend!

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If it would shame JP more to be fired today and not be the record holder of coaching the most games, then I’m for firing him today. The then grad assistant probably has spent many sleepless nights already (maybe JP too) but his non action when he saw a rape in progress is just too much to let pass and hopefully Penn State will let him go also. Too bad he has not been asked why he did not intervene.

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Schultz, why are you responding to these idiots. Paterno has admitted that he knew something sexual in nature happened and he didn’t respond the way a man of his statue should have responded. He is not the man next door. He has a much bigger obligation.

Paterno, a great coach. Say what. Last relevance was 94. Last NC was 87 where Miami had 7 turnovers, 22 first downs to PSU’s 8, 400 something yards to PSU’s 160 and PSU won by 4.

They replay the game 2 out 3, 3 out 5, whatever, Miami wins 80%.

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Let’s say for arguments sake Joe knew nothing. In light of the information before the school and Board of Trustees right now, how in the world can they play a football game Saturday??? They’re just going to run out there like nothings wrong and for three hours pretend nothing happened?? McQuery is going to put on some head sets and coach a game. Just like that, huh? If Joe truly loved PSU as he says he does and truly loves the students, he would not play this Saturday and in fact cancel the rest of the season.

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I do not doubt that Sandusky performed the disgusting acts that are being reported, but I have never seen a witch hunt like I have for Coach Joe Paterno. For the past two days, I see Paterno’s picture plastered on ESPN (like he was the accused individual). Granted, he may have not have been as proactive with his follow-up, but the real attention should go towards Sandusky and his perverse actions. Let a man who has done more good with his life and money than 99% of America retire in peace and focus on the real villain. I am disgusted with ESPN and their coverage. I have never seen the individuals surrounding a case prosecuted and convicted before the actual defendant comes to trial. Shame on ESPN and Dan Patrick for focusing on a participant (if you can call him that) so far removed from the actual monster that committed these crimes. I think this is everybody’s chance to pile on a program that was squeaky clean and successful for years. Just a point of fact, I am a dyed in the wool SEC fan, but I respect what Paterno stands for an am disgusted at the treatment he is getting for being acquainted with a “sex offender”. Focus your energy and wrath on Sandusky and let one of the great icons of our time live in peace.

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I only read 2 pages of comments so if I’m stealing someone else’s thunder on this most horrific topic I apologize but here’s my two cents:

PSU banned Sandusky from bringing kids on campus. Is the message, “it’s ok, Jerry Sandusky, for you to do whatever it is you’ve been doing as long as it’s not on our grounds”? If that doesn’t chill your bones, nothing will.

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dmfox08 – Don’t want to be the one to break it to you fella,but this is a Jeff Schultz blog. And please stop with the “he who is without sin” or “I guess you have never done anything wrong.” I have run a red light, that is wrong, does that put me on the same level as someone who condones a pedophile. Good grief, get some perspective.

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