Braves reverse field, make right call firing Larry Parrish

unknown hinson

September 30th, 2011
4:03 pm

Hell yeeeyuh

kevin

September 30th, 2011
4:04 pm

There is a GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! first!!

kevin

September 30th, 2011
4:04 pm

dang no first

Clayton

September 30th, 2011
4:04 pm

Something had to give

AthensDawg

September 30th, 2011
4:05 pm

Thank goodness!

bobby

September 30th, 2011
4:06 pm

Now if they can only get someone to hit when there are men on base.

Realist

September 30th, 2011
4:07 pm

Frank Wren has two titles. That makes him sound so important. His results as GM do not.

De Donde Julio

September 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

They should hire Chipper’s dad

Sammy P

September 30th, 2011
4:12 pm

I think something had to happen – c’mon, you think Braves fans would have felt that brass was taking this situation seriously if nothing happened? I don’t think so. I mean, the Red Sox just parted ways with Francona! Not sure if you can positively attribute the team’s failings to LP, but let’s be honest – the entire year was a strugle for the offense. Now, if only Liberty Media would agree to spend some money to get a reputable and established hitting coach – asking for too much, right?

SimpleDawg

September 30th, 2011
4:13 pm

Better to release Parrish than to be released.

foultip

September 30th, 2011
4:14 pm

Would Terry consider the job. He did have the advantage of seeing our hitters, make that batters, from a different angle then the dugout.

hornblowermg

September 30th, 2011
4:15 pm

where is Mike Schmitt ?

John OTC

September 30th, 2011
4:16 pm

Why wasn’t this done in July?

count_schemula

September 30th, 2011
4:16 pm

McCann’s brother helped McCann and Chipper worked with Heyward with some success. Never heard anything positive about Parrish. I’m still to sick over the collapse to care that much though.

Clay

September 30th, 2011
4:16 pm

It’s a shame Chipper has a year left on his contract. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in this role.

The Living Legend

September 30th, 2011
4:18 pm

Hire Mark Grace!!!!!!!!!!! He was a hitter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a slugger, but a hitter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Said last year they should hire Mark Grace, but no one listens to me. Great hitter, and great mentor to take Freeman to the next level. Just saying……….

BrianSC

September 30th, 2011
4:18 pm

Well, well, well…

Somebody finally wised up and made a change. I was very disappointed yesterday to find out that no changes were being made to the staff after this disasterous ending to the season. A change HAD to be made, and somebody HAD to go. Somebody had to be held accountable. The hitting coach position was the biggest glaring weakness from this season.

Now…

1. Hire a hitting coach with EXPERIENCE…MAJOR LEAGUE EXPERIENCE.

2. Get Jason Heyward straightened out. If the new hitting coach needs to work with J-Hey evey day during the offseason, then do it. The Braves cannot afford to have another terrible year from the RF position.

3. Teach plate discipline. Re-teach the offensive philosophy of selective hitting at the plate. Get deep in counts. Get the opposing pitcher’s pitch count up.

4. Teach situational hitting and execution with RISP. If they are on second or third, they have to come in.

If the new hitting coach works on those four things, I think the offseason will be successful.

rally

September 30th, 2011
4:19 pm

Kudos to all Braves fans who posted their displeasure over Fredi’s announcement of yesterday. Perhaps we made a difference and maybe the front office finally heard our concerns. Well done.

Looking Forward to Freddie's reign...

September 30th, 2011
4:19 pm

Thank you. That is a great first step. I was not looking forward to having to boycott the Ted…I love the Braves, and this gives me a little more confidence that they are trying to hold management accountable for this disaster.

Foothills

September 30th, 2011
4:20 pm

When most of the team hits below the Mendoza line in the last month, well yeah, somethings gotta give. Really thought the young arms threw well enough to get us into the postseason but it was like we had a line-up full of Brad Kominsk in August.

Sons of Rick Matula

September 30th, 2011
4:21 pm

The right move. But players play … who were the hitting coaches all those years the Braves made the playoffs? Don Baylor, Clarence Jones. So what? That said, Parrish seemed to be useless.

TomDawg

September 30th, 2011
4:21 pm

We need someone that has won a batting title or two. A Tony Gwynn or Wade Boggs type. Hell, what is Pete Rose up to these days? Just kidding. The main thing is, get someone that has some clout and seems to know what they are doing. If the Braves would have hit just a little with runners in scoring position over the past 2 weeks they would have held on and been in the playoffs. Anyone know what the Braves RISP average was over the last few weeks of the season? I’m guessing around .175.

Bobby Bobby

September 30th, 2011
4:21 pm

I guess Freddie is on the hot seat! He hired only 2 coaches and Wren goes over his head and fires one.

Heard It All Before

September 30th, 2011
4:22 pm

Perfect commentary on the season. Even in deciding to make a change, management comes off as indecisive.

Baker

September 30th, 2011
4:22 pm

Get rid of the hitting coach altogether. Just have another “coach”. So much blame for a position that can only do so much.

count_schemula

September 30th, 2011
4:22 pm

They did not listen to the fans. Please. There is a chance that Chipper gave Parrish the no confidence behind the scenes though.

George T.

September 30th, 2011
4:22 pm

Good move; however it shows that either Fredi is not in charge of the team ( I sure hope he is not) does not consultant with his boss (can’t believe that) or just very indecisive (we have seen that all season).
Solution to solve a couple of problems. Send Chip Cary down the road ; he is a very poor announcer. Make Joe Simpson the hitting coach. He gives his view night after night on what the hitters are doing wrong; we can see if he knows what he is talking about. This will give the Braves a hitting coach and free up the booth for real broadcasters who let the game serve as the entertainment.

tim

September 30th, 2011
4:23 pm

Next year..it will be Gonzalez who gets fired. Bye Bye Fredi.

wuky

September 30th, 2011
4:23 pm

Sorry Fredi but this was a no brainer.

GoldJacket

September 30th, 2011
4:23 pm

Bring back Don Baylor! Isn’t he with Arizona this year? If it only took 2 prospects to get Ozzie Guillen then can we send some bats and balls to the Diamondbacks for Baylor? Like we did for Kerry Lightenberg back in the day from Greg Olsen’s independent league team

freshd

September 30th, 2011
4:24 pm

They need to try and rehire Don Baylor who used to be the hitting coach.

TomDawg

September 30th, 2011
4:26 pm

Mark Grace would be another good one. Had not thought of him L.L..

Najeh Davenpoop

September 30th, 2011
4:27 pm

No guarantee that this will help or that his replacement will be better, but someone had to take the fall for the offensive underachievement. This was the right move. Now go get a replacement who will value patience and on-base percentage.

Sons of Rick Matula

September 30th, 2011
4:27 pm

This does make Freddi look bad … or bad-der, with apologies.

rally

September 30th, 2011
4:28 pm

Don Baylor needs to be remembered in our prayers. He has had cancer I believe and was taken to the hospital earlier today:

Diamondbacks Hitting Coach Don Baylor Taken To Hospital After Fainting

Amidst all the playoff planning by the Arizona Diamondbacks came a bit of a scary scene as hitting coach Don Baylor was taken from the visitors clubhouse on a stretcher after fainting due to some lightheadedness. He was taken to a local Milwaukee hospital as a precaution as well as some further evaluation according to Arizona GM Kevin Towers.

Initial reports from Milwaukee where Arizona Republic beat writer Nick Piecoro are encouraging. Piecoro reported that according to Towers, the initial tests were encouraging including an EKG heart test. A CT scan is planned and team doctors are with Baylor at the hospital.

http://arizona.sbnation.com/arizona-diamondbacks/2011/9/30/2460513/don-baylor-hospital-arizona-diamondbacks

garcia

September 30th, 2011
4:28 pm

Fredi should have kept his mouth shut until he met with Wren. As it stands, he looks pretty well neutered.

George Allen

September 30th, 2011
4:30 pm

Great…Now, who to Hire??? Chipper’s Dad? Terry Pendleton? How about someone with Experience of hitting well with RISP and fewer strikeouts. Too bad we can’t get Don Baylor, what is Fred McGriff doin’ these days?

GoldJacket

September 30th, 2011
4:30 pm

How about the Murph?

229 Bravesfan

September 30th, 2011
4:31 pm

GO BRAVES!!!!

Mister Frisky

September 30th, 2011
4:32 pm

This is a great start to the off season.This team was horrible at the plate except for opening day.These Braves were cowards under Parrish.They didn’t know if they should swing,take,or soil themselves.A few more heads rollin wouldn’t be bad either.

Rey

September 30th, 2011
4:33 pm

Hey guys, how do you feel about the Braves hiring Francona from Boston? I believe he’s on his way out the door and he’s an infinitely better head coach than Fredi Gonzalez.

chuckw/deadjournalist

September 30th, 2011
4:33 pm

tom emanski!

charlie sheen

September 30th, 2011
4:33 pm

Can’t hire Murph unless the other teams promise not to throw curveballs

HereWeGoAgain

September 30th, 2011
4:34 pm

It seems pretty simple to me. Joe Simpson, in the Braves broadcast booth, does a pretty good job of analyzing the players’ stances, the hitches in their swings, and noting when they are pulling out, dropping their elbows, stepping in the bucket or getting out on their front feet. he might even be able to help them anticipate the next pitches to expect. Record the Braves’ broadcasts and just make sure the players watch and listen the next day to his analyses to correct their problems.

GoldJacket

September 30th, 2011
4:34 pm

@chuckw: Classic!

Eric

September 30th, 2011
4:35 pm

Great freaking news! Great freaking news!

Steve

September 30th, 2011
4:36 pm

Does this mean that Fredi is in trouble?

William

September 30th, 2011
4:36 pm

Now when do we get to hear Freddie has been replaced by Francona?

phil57

September 30th, 2011
4:36 pm

garcia is correct. But you know…a lot of us posted here that we did not like the Parrish hire when it was announced. Braves need to look before leaping. Hitting coach is a critical position.

Piedmont Blues

September 30th, 2011
4:37 pm

Holy cr*p. And I mean that in a good way.

Piedmont Blues

September 30th, 2011
4:38 pm

Three guys with Braves ties have been successful major league hitting coaches: Chris Chambliss, Gerald Perry, and Milt Thompson. And of course, Don Baylor was here in the Bobby era.

Kimbrel rocks

September 30th, 2011
4:39 pm

best news all year!!!!!

Innocent Bystander

September 30th, 2011
4:39 pm

McCann’s dad and/or brother.

P'cola Brave

September 30th, 2011
4:39 pm

If I remember correctly it was Wren’s decision to hire Parrish not FG. So with that being said, Wren manned up and got rid of his mistake. I don’t think he went behind FG back for this. It seems that LP was Wrens man and if he wasn’t working out it would be Wren letting him go.

meh

September 30th, 2011
4:40 pm

they need someone who can teach the hitters that driving someone in from second base doesn’t mean hitting a 500 foot home run.

freshd

September 30th, 2011
4:42 pm

sorry to hear about Don Baylor.

BOB

September 30th, 2011
4:42 pm

how about Joe Simpson? I think he would make a awesome Hitting coach for the Braves based on his Commentary in the Booth. That man knows alot about hitting.

Kissinger

September 30th, 2011
4:43 pm

I honestly don’t know what a hitting coach does in the major leagues. Seems to me each player could have his own swing coach or not (kind of like golf). They should already know about situational hitting if they got to this level. The manager can tell them to work the count. Firing Parrish will make everyone feel better (me included), but it may be like replacing the wiper blades when the engine needs an overhaul.

GB

September 30th, 2011
4:43 pm

I’ll take the job. Quit swinging at bad pitches! Swing hard in case you hit it!!

phil

September 30th, 2011
4:44 pm

Fire LP!!

Wait?

What?

This is a good start. It’s also funny as heck that FG’s moronic and thoughtless decision to keep such a pitiful coach was almost immediately overruled. GOOD RIDDANCE!!

However…

until FG is canned or quits on his own, I will still not be attending any games. Why should we?

Well done, FW, but don’t stop now.

Larry

September 30th, 2011
4:44 pm

What an insult to our intelligence!

A hitting coach at the MLB level is nothing more than a guy to run batting practice.

No, the guy that shoul have been terminated is the same guy that cost this team multiple wins from stupid lineups, stupid pitching decisions, and failing to inspire and lead his team to the stated goal of the playoffs when spotted a 3 game lead with 5 to go!

Don’t buy into this, Braves fans. Don’t let this man, Parish, be the scapegoat for Fruity. Demand the best for your time, money, and support by not buying a single ticket to a game until we get a manager and leader that can at least recall the simple facts and details of the game he just managed.

We blew it by pacifying Bobby when we had a golden opportunity to get Girardi when ge quit the Marlins (unlike our manager that they ran off). There’s a bright, articulate man up in Boston with two World Series Championship Rings…don’t blow it again, Braves!

Hire Francona and I’ll renew in a heartbeat!

GoldJacket

September 30th, 2011
4:44 pm

@GB: Alright, Ryan Klesko

Bob

September 30th, 2011
4:45 pm

Maybe Fredi will take this move, which is great. as a slap in the face and resign. That would be the best news of the day

GB

September 30th, 2011
4:46 pm

@GoldJacket: That does sound like Klesko, doesn’t it?!

GB

September 30th, 2011
4:47 pm

Oh yeah, THWG

ijudgenot

September 30th, 2011
4:48 pm

Wow. Either Fredi is a liar because he said his whole staff would be back, or he is a coward who will not stand up for his coaches, when he said he did not operate that way. Either way his respect from his coaches and players is shot. I realy can’t see how he manages the team next year with success. His players and coaches can’t trust his word anymore.

wes33

September 30th, 2011
4:49 pm

Terry screwed up Jeff now look at him. Get the Royals coach.

Matt from MN

September 30th, 2011
4:50 pm

Fredi G needs to pull his head out of his “you know where” or he’s going to be gone in short order as well.

The Braves Bats

September 30th, 2011
4:50 pm

Yeah!! Yeah!! We have finally been released from an entire year of imprisonment. Parrish didn’t know s___t about teaching hitting.

Jay Dubu

September 30th, 2011
4:53 pm

Fredi, you lied to us!!!

Don

September 30th, 2011
4:53 pm

Make Fredi next!!!!!!!

AP News

September 30th, 2011
4:53 pm

Breaking News!! Frank Wren of the Atlanta Braves has announced that Greg Norton was hired to be the new hitting coach.

roge

September 30th, 2011
4:53 pm

Gold Jacket, how long have you been watching the Braves? Murph, get real, he looked sick when they threw him curve balls.

STEELY DAN MAN

September 30th, 2011
4:54 pm

GO BRAVES ….. AND TAKE THE HAWKS & FALCONS W/ YOU ….. ALL THE WAY TO ….. WINNERSVILLE, BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARDCORE ATL ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!!!

joemoedee

September 30th, 2011
4:55 pm

So Fire Fredi who dealt with injuries, year long slumps and rookies which caused them to fall out of the playoff race to hire a guy in Francona who just led an even bigger collapse with twice the payroll? Seems brilliant.

Ever see Francona’s record NOT with Boston? 285-363

Dennis Reynolds

September 30th, 2011
4:55 pm

I thought it was far-fetched at first, but I can see Fredi being let go after next season if we don’t make playoffs.

Larry G

September 30th, 2011
4:56 pm

Just remember, before further lambasting Fredi Gonzalez, et al, that most of this team was inherited from Bobby Cox, who could win a division title in a breeze, but couldnt’ take the Braves any farther, except once. Give Fredi some more chances. He can’t do worse than BC.

Larry

September 30th, 2011
4:57 pm

Kissinger,

I played nine years. A hitting coach has absolutely minimal influence on a hitter by the time he’s in a major league uniform. Yes, that may offer a suggestion or two to tweak this or that with a certain unduvidual but nothing more. Everyone on here celebrating the firing of Parish never played the game at a high level…they haven’t a clue!

Parish is the scapegoat here for a managerial failure. Don’t be stupid enough to watch this man’s public crucifixion while the real culprits, Fruity and the man who retains him, thin skin Wren, walks away free and clear.

Don’t be a victim…be a difference! Make a difference by withholding your money!

Art

September 30th, 2011
4:58 pm

Didn’t I hear that the hitting coach at Greenville, Dismuke, helped a number of players after they got to the big leagues or where under injury rrehab including McLouth and others.

ernisTbass

September 30th, 2011
4:59 pm

the Braves had a hitting coach????????

Nashville Braves

September 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

At first Fredie Gonzo was a good idea to replace Bobby C. Now I’m not so sure if Fredie is the kind of leader we’re looking for. Too may questionable calls and he pushed the wrong bottom most of the times.

I say bring back Old Bobby or Davey Johnson away from the Nationals.

Mike

September 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

Fredi! You’re next! At least I hope so…

Jay Dubu

September 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

Don Baylor did a great job when he was here. Helped Andruw hit .303, and the closest he’s ever come to that is .277.

Memphis

September 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

I have an out of the box name. He’s been in the Braves Minor League System for over 10 years. He’s worked with everyone from Chipper to Heyward, from Prado to Mac. His name is Bobby Moore. He knows hitting, and would make a great hire. The Yankees hired from within a few years ago (current hitting coach) Kevin Long, and I know you’ll say that you or I could coach the Yanks but he’s done wonders for Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher and others.

rash

September 30th, 2011
5:00 pm

hell yeah!!! now get lowe out of atl and get fredi g out of here then we can put a few pieces together and return to the playoffs…. way to go wren

Stinger2

September 30th, 2011
5:01 pm

Why would anyone want Francona whose team had a worse collapse than the Braves. Also, why put all the blame on Parrish. There were several other reasons which have all been documented by the fans and AJC writers.

hmmmm.........

September 30th, 2011
5:01 pm

They should go after the rangers hitting coach. He’s one of the best and pay him whatever it takes!

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 30th, 2011
5:01 pm

A cardboard cutout of Jeff (8mm) Blauser would be an improvement.

hmmmm.........

September 30th, 2011
5:02 pm

Old hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo

rash

September 30th, 2011
5:02 pm

hire chippers daddy

Felix

September 30th, 2011
5:02 pm

Just read the news about Parrish. What took so long? He should have been canned 3 months ago. Look at the mess he has made of Jason. Jason was a much better hitter till Parrish screwed him up. Prado’s now a mess too. Someone needs to be canned for not firing him sooner. Where I work, you don’t produce, you get fired. Hell, TP was light years a better hitting coach than Parrish. Where did they get Parrish from anyway? I never heard anything about him having a great reputation as a hitting coach–yet Frodo went out and hired him.
I’d like to see Clarence Jones in that job–until Chipper retires.

Big Wally

September 30th, 2011
5:03 pm

Fredi G. is looking more like Mel Brooks’ governor role in blazing saddles.

Felix

September 30th, 2011
5:03 pm

Enter your comments here

rally

September 30th, 2011
5:04 pm

If Francona does not land elsewhere (Like the White Sox), he could be an option in the future. Maybe he sits out a year and then comes to the Braves. After all, Francona and Frank Wren were teammates in the Expos farm system. Not saying that I would be for the change just that it is a possibility.

Felix

September 30th, 2011
5:04 pm

The Mel Brooks ‘GOV’ analogy is great–cracked me up.

Tucson AZ

September 30th, 2011
5:04 pm

There is a god!Thank whoever for firing Larry Parish.It Instills a little more faith in the Braves management.Now if only FG was gone,it would be a very Merry Christmas!

hmmmm.........

September 30th, 2011
5:04 pm

Trade Lowe and getting a powerhitting lf. Then just move Prado around and rest guys

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:05 pm

Point is Fredi, you do hire somebody and let them do their job up to the point that they prove they cannot do the job…Personally I think the “Peter Principle” is in full effect in the manager’s position…Fredi appears not to be up to the requirments of top level management.

STEELY DAN MAN

September 30th, 2011
5:05 pm

FRUITY GONZALEZ … THAT’S RICH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mitchell

September 30th, 2011
5:06 pm

Just in time for the playoffs.

01HAWK

September 30th, 2011
5:06 pm

This the guy to get……………………….He helped FRENCHIE with his turnaround.

Rudy Jaramillo has been credited for the development of players as Jeff Bagwell, Juan González, Adrian Gonzalez, Iván Rodríguez, Mark Teixeira and Michael Young, among others.

When the New York Mets were in search of a new major league manager in 2004, General Manager Omar Minaya interviewed Jaramillo as a possible managerial candidate. Jaramillo was among the final two candidates for the position, but Willie Randolph was ultimately selected as manager.[citation needed]

Following the 2009 season, Jaramillo announced that he would not remain with the Rangers, opting to seek out other opportunities.[1] He officially signed with the Cubs on October 21, 2009 as their major league hitting coach.

Stinger2

September 30th, 2011
5:07 pm

Larry G. Your statement that Bobby Cox could not get the Braves more than once is simply wrong. Without any research, I know the Braves went to th WS at least 4 times.

C'mon Man

September 30th, 2011
5:07 pm

Don Baylor feeling light-headedness and lying on a stretcher would still make a better hitting coach than Larry Parrish.

John Adcox

September 30th, 2011
5:08 pm

Clarence Jones, there’s a Mr. Wren from Atlanta holding for you on line one….

Ed Glennon

September 30th, 2011
5:08 pm

Even Chipper’s mom would be better.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2011
5:09 pm

ernisTbass

September 30th, 2011
4:59 pm

the Braves had a hitting coach????????

Ha! lol

Octavius

September 30th, 2011
5:09 pm

I was not apparent to me that the Braves had any coaches.

roge

September 30th, 2011
5:09 pm

You don’t need a hitting coach. These guys as myself grew up with one coach and you hit what is thrown at you. Just a waste of money.

John

September 30th, 2011
5:11 pm

Well, well ,well….the Braves make a smart move! So does Fredi G stay or is he let go? My guess he’s safe for now.

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:11 pm

With that logic…why have any coaches?

GBR

September 30th, 2011
5:12 pm

I guess Freddie had not seen the team batting average. In this venue I asked several times who the Braves hitting coach was and getting no response, thought we didn’t have one , and assumed Terry Pendleton was doing a poor job coaching our guys to first base. Maybe we’ll get one now! Please excuse the run on sentence.

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:12 pm

No coach or manager should ever feel their job is safe….in fact no one in any job should take it for granted.

Felix

September 30th, 2011
5:13 pm

Hey where did my post go? What the h___?

Bobby Cox

September 30th, 2011
5:13 pm

Making Larry Parrish the scapegoat for the September debacle is really poor sportsmanship from Frank Wren. To diminish the character of a truly great athlete like L.P.’s is absurd and unjust, this is simply a sidestep by management for making moronic trades they made in August, hiring broken down players to come in and actually think they could make a contribution. Hey!! here are some pink slips. Jon Schulerholtz, Frank Wren, Fredi (the goofy look on your face) Gonzales, Rodger (hates kids) McDowell, Chipper Jones, Derek Lowe, Brian (the Squint) McCann, Alex (the can’t hit) Gonzalez.

Larry

September 30th, 2011
5:14 pm

As for the “collapse,” this is less of an issue with me than all the stupid, bizarre, and downright goofy season long decisions by Fruity. I mean, one could say the Phillies “collapsed” when they lost 8 straight games after clinching. However, effective managing from April in is why they’re in the playoffs and the Braves cleaned out their lockers.

Francona is a sharp cookie. Comparing his intellect and pedigree to Fruity is like comparing an earthworm to a computer!

Get Francona and the phones start ringing off the hook at the Braves ticket office…including mine!

St. Richt

September 30th, 2011
5:15 pm

How about Chipper’s dad? He’s available..

Bobby Cox

September 30th, 2011
5:15 pm

Making Larry Parrish the scapegoat for the September debacle is really poor sportsmanship from Frank Wren. To diminish the character of a truly great athlete like L.P.’s is absurd and unjust, this is simply a sidestep by management for making moronic trades they made in August, hiring broken down players to come in and actually think they could make a contribution. Hey!! here are some pink slips. Jon Schulerholtz, Frank Wren, Fredi (the goofy look on your face) Gonzales, Rodger (hates kids) McDowell, Chipper Jones, Derek Lowe, Brian (the Squint) McCann, Alex (the can’t hit) Gonzalez. Jason Heywood.

braves bobblehead 3

September 30th, 2011
5:16 pm

That was the correct move. JHey, Alex Gonzalaz, McCann down the stretch, all stunk and Chipper even said JHey needs at least 5 swings to be competitive in the major league. I believe when Chipper retires he needs to be the batting coach because of his hard work at his craft.

drew

September 30th, 2011
5:17 pm

How about holding the players accountable. They are professional baseball players. Professional meaning they have mastered what it takes to make it to that level. They should have a clear understanding of what it takes to get out of it. Parrish can’t go up there and hit for them.

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:18 pm

Chipper for player/coach. Reduce his playing time to save his health, and devote more time to helping players with their hitting. It’s a thought…

Steve

September 30th, 2011
5:19 pm

With Wren making the decisions on Parrish, Lowe, and Heyward, what does it say about Fredi Gonzalez?

Peter

September 30th, 2011
5:19 pm

Hire Larry Jones, Sr.

Tim D

September 30th, 2011
5:19 pm

Great first step. We definitely need someone with big league experience to fill the role. Mark Grace, Tony Gywn, Jeff Bagwell are great examples.

Big Ten Champs Nebraska

September 30th, 2011
5:19 pm

Still doesn’t account for the questionable managerial decisions this past season.

P Rose

September 30th, 2011
5:22 pm

Great. Chipper probably just needs some coaching. Maybe next year he won’t go 0 for 5 with 3 strikeouts in an elimination game.

Marshall Kerlin

September 30th, 2011
5:22 pm

Let Chipper have the dual role as player/hitting coach. If he does indeed play next year, logically he shud sit out/rest at least one third of the time/ so he’ll have more time to give to hitting instruction. No matter what anyone thinks of Chip, the guy Knows Hitting. Heck, bring his Dad in on it too. Might be a little impetus in 5-6 years for Chipper to be full-time hitting coach, once he’s had a few years at home with the teenagers. Next year’s pitching staff = Incredible It will be a fun year.

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:23 pm

Maybe next year he will be in better health down the stretch.

ray

September 30th, 2011
5:23 pm

one down, 3 to go. we still need a new owner, a new GM and a new manager. this isn’t nearly enough. the GM and manager are not involved in this debacle ? are they innocent bystanders ?
this is just a token PR firing to try to appease fans. it is made by someone who shouldn’t even be there to fire Parrish. he hired him so it’s another example of Wren’s incompetence.
this is just the tip of the iceberg. lets get to the root of this unacceptbale situation.

USAF Retired

September 30th, 2011
5:24 pm

Oh yeah…and bring back Leo as pitching coach too.

Tim D

September 30th, 2011
5:25 pm

Everyone needs to realize that this decision wasn’t made just because of the September struggles. The team did not hit all year long. Most of their hitters had career low numbers. The lack of hitting caused Fredi G to overuse the bullpen since almost all of our wins were close. We were first in baseball for last AB wins for a reason……because we didn’t win games going away. IF everyone hasn’t noticed, non of the top five teams on that list made the playoffs. That’s not how you want to win ballgames!!

jayvee

September 30th, 2011
5:26 pm

The question I have is how much influence the hitting coach has on plate discipline. I’m assuming the hitting coach is responsible for making recommendations for approaches versus various pitchers, in addition to the obvious responsibility for working on a player’s stance and swing. I thought the Braves approach at the plate looked clueless for most of the season. I’ve said several times in comments that I’ve never seen a team that won so many games yet hit so few line drives. The Braves gave away copious at bats, and games, this year due to impatience and downright idiocy at the plate. Uggla and Gonzales couldn’t hit a breaking ball away all year, yet they kept swinging at them (Uggla definitely chased them less frequently when he went on his streak, yet he was still vulnerable and struck out on breaking balls away in the final game.) Heyward’s swing needs a complete retrofit. Break him down and teach him all over again, stressing on hiitting the ball up the middle and to the left-center gap. His power numbers would decline for a while, but when it comes back, he’ll be wicked to all fields, and he’ll hit .300. Poor Prado didn’t seem to know what to do with Bourne on base ahead of him, which was a surprise. And I like the guy but I have never really understood the Braves’ fetish for Matt Diaz. Ugliest swing in baseball, poor fielder.

Bob the Blogger

September 30th, 2011
5:26 pm

A good hitting coach is essential to the success of a MLB team. The Braves need to get the absolute best one available. The difference in the amount of money needed to acquire the best vs. a mediocre one is nothing compared to the collective salaries of all of the position players. As many have said, hitting a baseball is the most difficult feat in professional sports, so we need the best hitting coach we can get – period.

Scottirock

September 30th, 2011
5:27 pm

Step one accomplished. now comes Sherrill and Linebrink.

Scottirock

September 30th, 2011
5:28 pm

And Lowe

Nola62

September 30th, 2011
5:30 pm

The Braves had a Hitting Coach? Who knew??

garcia

September 30th, 2011
5:30 pm

How ’bout hiring Ichiro’s hitting coach. It is time to change the hitting philosophy of the entire team.

kerryb

September 30th, 2011
5:30 pm

They waited too long to make this move.

General Patton

September 30th, 2011
5:30 pm

The Greatest description of the Braves:

“There Ain’t No “We” in Chokeville”

“Worst choke in baseball history, even worse than the Braves this year, the Braves who used to play in Boston, which as someone said yesterday proves that you can take the Braves out of Boston, but you can’t take the Boston out of the Braves.” Howie Carr – Boston Herald

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0930there_aint_no_we_in_chokeville/

Janney

September 30th, 2011
5:32 pm

Good to hear

Vain Jangling

September 30th, 2011
5:33 pm

What about Chico Escuela? Beisbol been bery, bery good to him.

Banned Poster

September 30th, 2011
5:33 pm

I don’t think hitting coaches are end all, be all, but they do help make a difference. Chipper and Andruw always credited Don Baylor with their success in 1999 and 2000. You heard Frency credit his current coaches in NY and KC as helping him rebound. Coaches are good, but most of the time it is certain players they help the most and not the entire team. The best thing a hitting coach can do is preach situational hitting – such as when you have runners at 2nd and 3rd and one out, you should put the ball in play in the OF or hit it to the right side of the IF to get that runner home. Or how about hitting the opposite fields with 2 strikes and the pitching giving you nothing but outside breaking pitches.

This is nothing but a Frank Wren move and it makes Fredi look weak. It is now obvious that Fredo is on the hot seat and has been served notice that another performance like this Sept will not be tolerated by Wren. Good for him. It is great to see someone in the front office has the balz to do something to correct issues with the team. I also like Wrens comments about Lowe and Heyward. It shows someone is in control and this last months performance will not be tolerated.

As for Francona, don’t put the onus on him for the Red Sox issues. Unlike Fredi, he actually made lineup changes and looked to motivate his players out of their funk. That team just simply has no chemistry and his top players let him down. Ortiz, AGon, and Crawford couldn’t hit nor could Beckett, Lester, or Lackey pitch. The man won 2 World Series rings with a team that could never get past the Yankees in the AL East or ALCS. I would take Francona over Fredo in a heart beat and this team would respond with great success IMHO. His numbers with Philly were not all that great, but remember that Philly team he had in the late 1990s. There were no Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorinos, Ryan Howards, or Chase Utleys. Despite that, his teams were still respectable, though his last team in 2000 was riddled with injuries and Rico Brogna.

Charles Van Doren

September 30th, 2011
5:34 pm

No doubt Parrish needed to go, but all this was done to throw the pissed off fans a bone,, so that we all go “yay ,,problem solved” ,, when Fredi is the real problem. The Fredi problem will unfortunately have to prove out at the expense of at least one more if not two seasons, before enough proof is gathered,, however much there is now.

Coach (2011 Fredi G. FAILED)

September 30th, 2011
5:34 pm

Fredo got his pee pee spanked by his own boss. How hilarious.

Frank Wren

September 30th, 2011
5:35 pm

I can’t believe that J.S. bought the story Fredi and I gave him that it was all Larry Parrish’s fault.

The way I figure it is, even though both Fredi and I haven’t a clue what we’re doing, firing Parrish might buy us another year.

poolcue

September 30th, 2011
5:36 pm

NOT ENOUGH!!!! FG HAS TO GO TO GO ALSO!!!!!!!

Tim D

September 30th, 2011
5:37 pm

According to ESPN Frank Wren also said this about Lowe and Heyward:

Braves general manager Frank Wren also says there’s no guarantee that Derek Lowe will have a spot in the rotation next season, even though the team still owes him $15 million on the final year of his contract. He lost 17 games with a 5.05 ERA.

On another issue, Wren says right fielder Jason Heyward will have to right to keep his job in spring training after a miserable season.

I think Heyward will have a bounce back year next in 2012 but Lowe needs to get traded for anything we can get and we will probably have to eat about $9 to $10 Mill of the contract.

JD

September 30th, 2011
5:37 pm

BRING BACK DON BAYLOR!

Sonny B. Layne

September 30th, 2011
5:37 pm

What about Leo Mazzone for Hitting Coach? He might not know much about hitting, but he could nudge FG when the Pitching Coach needed to go out to the mound and settle the Pitcher down before disaster struck or who not to start. If he had had that job this year, we would be in the Playoffs. The Team would not have hit any worse. In fact everyone might have hit a few points higher.

Melvin Flowers

September 30th, 2011
5:38 pm

I SAID ALL ALONE THE BRAVES WERE NOT MAKEING THE PLAY-OFFS, FREDI SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED ALSO,
NO EXCUSE FOR NOT MAKEING PLAY-OFFS THIS SEASON, HE DON’T KNOW WHEN TO REMOVE A PITCHER WHEN NEEDED DURING THE GAMES. THE RED SOX TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS A FEW MIN AGO, THE PITCHING COACH AND FREDI MUST GO.
THE BRAVES NEED TO MAKE MOVES TO IMPROVE TO BEAT THE PHILLIES. IF NOT WE MIGHT BE IN THE SAME BOAT NEXT SEASON WATCHING TV NO POST SEASON.

Rich

September 30th, 2011
5:38 pm

You guys calling for Tito francona do realize his team just had a bigger collapse than the braves and they had double the payroll tha the braves had.

Supes

September 30th, 2011
5:38 pm

Good, this was a necessary move. SOMEONE had to be held accountable for this offensive collapse!

gabugman

September 30th, 2011
5:38 pm

Really, no more BS…fire Fredi too. If you’re stoopid enough to think there were not problems with the coaching, you should hit the trail, too.

markie mark

September 30th, 2011
5:42 pm

I agree with De Donde Julio – hire Larry Jones, Sr. if he will take it….

Melvin Flowers

September 30th, 2011
5:42 pm

LOWE MUST GO TOO: HE’S FINISH

Dude

September 30th, 2011
5:43 pm

Tony Gwynn!!!!!! This guy could stroke…please think outside of the box Mr. Wren.

Jim

September 30th, 2011
5:44 pm

Freddi and Snitker should be kicked to the curb too.

Larry Parrish

September 30th, 2011
5:45 pm

Just because I gave all the hitters a double dose of valium before each game, is no reason me.

kevkat

September 30th, 2011
5:45 pm

Good call….but half a season too late

Banned Poster

September 30th, 2011
5:47 pm

Rich….two different situations. Tito made managing decisions to fire up his team or get a spark (things Bobby used to do here). The whole month of September and even before then Fredo sat on his arse and didn’t try to shake things up until unfortunate events dictated him too (the Schafer injury(Constanza), the Prado/McClouth injuries(Schafer), McCann and Chippers injuries(moving Freeman and Uggla into the 3rd/4th spot in the order), etc… All season Fredo would not make a move to help jump start his team unless he was forced too and only then did the team really respond. And for some stupid reason he decided to go away from what worked from an offensive stand point (more Constanza, no Heyward on LH pitchers, more speed/running) and went back to his freaking opening day lineup sanz Michael Bourn. Fredo was clueless under pressure while Tito did everything he possibly could think of minus cloning Ted Williams or injecting Ortiz with steroids to get his team to respond in these last three weeks.

Hoosier Aaron

September 30th, 2011
5:50 pm

Mickey Hatcher – Hitting Coach
LA Angels of Anaheim or is it California Angels? Whatever – go get him.

Larry

September 30th, 2011
5:51 pm

Jeff,

Post the top vote getter for your poll on “who is the most to blame for the Braves collapse.”

Trust your readers!

extremus

September 30th, 2011
5:53 pm

Freddi Gonzalez should not be in a position after this collapse to declare that HE will even be back next season, much less the rest of his coaching staff. Firing Larry Parrish was only the FIRST thing that needs to happen this premature offseason for the Braves; Gonzalez should join Terry Francona in the “looking for jobs around baseball” circuit. And ditch Lowe, regardless of what he’s owed next year; better he sits at home counting his $15 million than spend another season on the mound losing games.

Wolf

September 30th, 2011
5:53 pm

Might have been a BIG hint to Fredi, Wren reversing Fredi’s decision 24 hours later. There MIGHT be another shoe to drop. It was over 100 years since a team blew the kind of lead the Braves had, a CENTURY. Fredi shuld resign and take another position in the organization.

Dr. Rambunz

September 30th, 2011
5:55 pm

When a team has good hitters who don’t hit someone has to pay the price. It should be the hitting coach. If the hitting coach can’t be blamed for poor hitting, then why hire one in the first place?

Wally

September 30th, 2011
5:56 pm

This last bad decision Fredi made yesterday makes him seem totally detached from what is really happening and how to fix it.

However, the team is made up of professional baseball players, not a bunch of high school kids. Some of them must share the blame with Parrish and follow him out. We can’t place all the blame for being ineffective on Parrish and Fredi and excuse the players.

I think this was Wren’s way of letting Fredi know there are other decision makers in the Braves organization.

One suggestion that I have not seen is that since they have to pay Chipper next season anyway, why not reassign him from third base player to batting coach for one year. This money, plus what they save by not having to pay another coach, might be better spent. Prado can play third base.

woody

September 30th, 2011
5:57 pm

chipper will be the next hitting coach.

Dr. Rambunz

September 30th, 2011
5:57 pm

Why not hire Glen Beck as hitting coach?

green

September 30th, 2011
5:58 pm

i THINK Gonalas needs to be fired. He had no respect for the team durin the game sitting on his sorry ASS NOT EVER TRYING TO get the team going.

Jack G

September 30th, 2011
5:58 pm

Wren going over Fredi’s head and fireing Parrish should tick Fredi off so much he RESIGNS. DO IT fREDI, SAVE FACE

bill

September 30th, 2011
5:58 pm

if fredi is so loyal should not he quit in protest. and i thought God was yankee fan

obee

September 30th, 2011
6:00 pm

Julio Franco

Dude

September 30th, 2011
6:01 pm

Wally
A 14million dollar hitting coach….seriously dude?

extremus

September 30th, 2011
6:01 pm

I think that the emphasis on “continuity” from Bobby Cox was one big thing that always held the Braves back in 2011. At first I liked the idea, but since then I’ve become convinced that the atmosphere of complacency and failure to decisively address problems is never going to allow things to get better unless THE ENTIRE COACHING STAFF GOES, including Freddi Gonzalez. If any team in baseball (winning record notwithstanding) needs a serious culture change to get the most (as opposed to the least) out of its players, it’s the Braves.

Some of these coaches may indeed be knowledgable and professional, but they all need to step aside and let a new manager and coaching staff imprint a fresh identity and sense of purpose on this franchise. Bobby’s gone, for better or for worse; deal with it and turn the page, and get somebody in here who will be able to get the job (winning a World Series) done, regardless of whether they’re a “players’ manager” or not.

Peter

September 30th, 2011
6:02 pm

The Rays are the Team of Destiny.

green

September 30th, 2011
6:02 pm

ididn’t so what does thst matter. he sux.

Simpson's Homer

September 30th, 2011
6:02 pm

Hire someone who demands accountability from ALL of the players. Every major league player should be CAPABLE of laying down a sacrifice bunt, for example. Saying that a guy like McCann or Uggla should NEVER have to bunt is simpleminded, and is one reason why the Braves can’t manufacture runs. It’s an ATTITUDE, of doing whatever it takes to score…… Playing for the 3-run homer has not worked well for the Braves in the playoffs, so maybe we should stop that focus in the regular season as well…….. Hire a hitting coach who will accept nothing but good fundamental offense from our players. In the past, guys like Glavine, Maddox and Smoltz were never automatic outs because they took pride in contributing offensively. ……GO BRAVES!

BaseballBuff

September 30th, 2011
6:03 pm

Parrish sure didn’t do much to help, or so it appears. However, I think the Braves are making a scapegoat of him if he is the only one to go. These are major leaguers, guys who should at least know how to make contact with a runner at third and less than two outs. He was not single-handedly responsible for the lack of timely hitting. Much more work remains to correct what ails the Braves. An on-field team leader, that is, someone who can hit in the clutch in important contests and can show the rest of the team the way, is an absolute must.

KME

September 30th, 2011
6:03 pm

LET THE CHANGES BEGIN…
I would get Pendleton to double duty…First base coach/batting coach…and why not?
Hey…I am very happy about this first change…and look-out…more to come!

Jack in Macon

September 30th, 2011
6:04 pm

I was boiling hot when Gonzalez announced Parrish would be back. I am now un-pissed, but this does not bode well for Fredi that he probably did not make the decision to fire him. It was obvious this decision had to be made. Good for Wren. Now find a real hitting instructor.

cphizzle

September 30th, 2011
6:04 pm

I cast my vote for Bobby Cox

W.A.

September 30th, 2011
6:05 pm

Hitting coach and or manager, either one needed to step up to the plate in the last few innings of game 162 and instruct the hitters not to try and kill the ball like they were. Good grief!!!

The Big Fat Blogger

September 30th, 2011
6:06 pm

Finally!!!! Now make Chipper retire and make him the hitting coach!!!!!!

Wally

September 30th, 2011
6:06 pm

DUDEThey have to pay him that figure whatever part he plays.

BaseballBuff

September 30th, 2011
6:06 pm

By the way, this move is indeed embarrassing for Fredi, but he should have kept his mouth shut and consulted his bosses before publicly announcing that all his coaches would stay.

Mary Chestnut

September 30th, 2011
6:07 pm

Please hire Princess Winnalotta before the BoSox do. Get moving Frank.

Joe Braves Fan

September 30th, 2011
6:07 pm

If the Braves have another epic meltdown of a season next year, it will be Fredi Gonzalez’s name being removed from the team roster.

BET IT …

JeanE

September 30th, 2011
6:10 pm

Well, now I know Frank isn’t an ibecile. Fredi, that’s another story. It’s very apparent that Frank said if you won’t fire Parrish, I will. Good for Wren. Even if the hitting coach isn’t entirely accountable, just the perception that what happened last year offensively was acceptable is ridiculous and won’t help sell tickets for next year. It needed to be done and Fredi couldn’t do it, so Wren did. Wish Don Baylor was available.

eastbound and down

September 30th, 2011
6:11 pm

well, that’s a start. a couple more firings and the braves will be off to a good start to the off season

Dawgdad (The Original)

September 30th, 2011
6:11 pm

Julio Franco please call Turner Field!

Chief Nocahoma

September 30th, 2011
6:12 pm

Bring back teeppee. Hit come.

PureHitting

September 30th, 2011
6:20 pm

Hey Wren! Hire Pete Barrios! If he can get Kelly Johnson to hit like an all-star think of what he could do for the rest of the line up!

Heavy Hitter

September 30th, 2011
6:21 pm

I would send McDowell packing also. Over use of Venters and Kimbrell plus Lowe’s demise can be added to the demise. It will be interesting to see what Heywaed does next year. He may be in Gwinnett if he doesn’t produce.

Larry

September 30th, 2011
6:22 pm

Franco was 8-0 in his two world series championships.

Two World Series sweeps!

Compare this to Bobby Cox’s 0-8 in his last 8 WS games!

LOL!

Mike

September 30th, 2011
6:24 pm

Go hire Francona!

ohhhYEAH

September 30th, 2011
6:27 pm

@ Larry G

Thats funny, because i seem to remember Bobby taking the Braves to the World series in ‘91, ‘92, ‘95, ‘96, and ‘99. all will far inferior teams, although the collapse in ‘96 was regrettable. Point is, im thinkin Bobby led us a little farther than jsut the division a few times

FEAR

September 30th, 2011
6:28 pm

Wow! They made a move?! It’s like Xmas. Good riddance.

Ed Glennon

September 30th, 2011
6:31 pm

How about the Big Cat? Bring him back.

ohhhYEAH

September 30th, 2011
6:33 pm

@ bobblehead

A-Gon was our best hitter the last 2 weeks of the season until he “got hurt”

JimK

September 30th, 2011
6:36 pm

Well done Mr. Wren, and all the bloggers who made it clear that retaining Parrish would have been a death blow to fan faith in our team. Accountability should prevail, and not just in baseball, if you know what I mean.

Klaus

September 30th, 2011
6:39 pm

The best part of this news is it likely put Fredi on his heels so maybe he will just quit at some point.

Francona in the Braves dugout would inspire a heck of lot more confidence (players and fans) than Fredi. Braves marketing department you should read that last bit and look at the sad attendance numbers. The worst since 2007.

If Francona was available a year ago no way Fredi gets the job handed to him over BBQ in the AL woods.

No way.

Let the countdown to Fredi’s removal begin. He is not the answer. Never was. He was the easy nepotistic choice.

This gig does not allow for on the job training and Fredi is in that mode. This is a storied franchise which is losing its way. They need someone who is wearing a WS ring and knows what it takes to win one.

Fredi is not that guy.

Sorry but it is true.

coloradofalconsfan

September 30th, 2011
6:42 pm

Wonder if Nomar would leave ESPN and coem back to the ATL?

coloradofalconsfan

September 30th, 2011
6:42 pm

meant ‘come’ of course. Nomar could rake.

Luv 2 Hate Me

September 30th, 2011
6:46 pm

It’s a start. Now they need to address Lowe. Bite the bullet (money)and put him on waivers or try to find someone who’ll take his azz.

Atlanta native

September 30th, 2011
6:48 pm

they need someone with energy who can communicate to and with these kids…

Must go

September 30th, 2011
6:49 pm

Forget next season. Trouble between the dugout and the front office has already started. Apparently Frank Wren, in all his wisdom, has decided to pull rank on Fredi and fire Larry Parrish. Based on what Fredi had to say…”It’s easy to fire somebody and throw somebody to the wolves. That’s not the way I work.”, it sounds like there is going to be a rub between the front office and the dugout. That is not the way you build a team setting and you get people pulling in the same direction. I understand sometimes people need to go, and I will admit that maybe there needed to be a change, but you don’t show up your manager by pulling rank. When a person in a position of management pulls a stunt like this it is because they are trying to cover their butt. If you look at Frank Wren’s history with the Braves and see how he has treated several players (Glav, Smoltz are a couple of examples) and now the manager in this organization he has NO CLUE what it means to be a part of a team. The longer this moron is in the front office the longer it will take the Braves to recover once he is finally gone. Start now, make the change that really needs to be made…fire Frank Wren.

Chuck

September 30th, 2011
6:49 pm

This is the Braves, one of the most respectable franchises in MLB. There is no reason for us not to be in the postseason this year. We need to continue to make more changes. Today was a good start, we got rid of a comatose hitting coach. Now we need to focus on more internal changes that will send a message to the nonproductive players that are use to this laid back atmosphere that has plagued our team for the past 7 years. And for goodness sake, let’s get a new owner that will spend money on good players.

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
6:55 pm

Can we fire him again?

Bluestreak

September 30th, 2011
6:58 pm

Its about time the Braves don’t accept the same ol’ same ol’ just to be nice the staff. Hold their feet to the fire. You can’t have drop offs like Francou….er, Heyward and Uggla, not make any signs of correcting the issue and expect to stay around. They learned their lesson letting TP go on as long as he did and thankfully weren’t going to make the same mistake twice.

farmer

September 30th, 2011
7:01 pm

well whaddya know? Wren actually wised up and fired that useless piece of crap. good for him going over Fredi’s head. now just fire Fredi and hire Francona.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2011
7:01 pm

What, fire Frank Wren and bring back Parrish? Gonzalez screwed up royally when he made a statement about retention of the staff without consulting Wren.

Elizabeth Binner

September 30th, 2011
7:01 pm

Make Chipper the hitting coach. That way he still makes his money and frees up a roster spot.

Bluestreak

September 30th, 2011
7:03 pm

Must go…It’s about time that the FO gets out of the ‘loyalty trumps results’ mindset that they let Bobby use due to his cache. We need to win and hitting was our issue. Regardless of what effect Larry had on it, that is his area and that area failed. Can’t fire the whole team, the coach has to go. Failure is not acceptable.

I think Fredi is the right manager, but this puts him on notice that failure to make it next year may fall on his head.

Don

September 30th, 2011
7:04 pm

If Fredi’s intent was to box Wren in with that statement yesterday, he could be gone in the next day or two. It looks to me like Wren just showed Fredi publicly who has the authority to hire and fire coaches. Can anybody imagine Wren overruling Bobby Cox?

I don’t know why teams even employ a full time hitting coach. Chipper and McCann have always relied on their Dads. Most hitters who have been successful in the big leagues are going to have their own way of doing things and pay little attention to a hitting coach. When Michael Bourn came to the Braves, did he ask Parrish for advice? I doubt it? If I was running the Braves I’d use the money I spent on a full time hitting coach to hire several hitting instructors on a consulting basis as needed with individual hitters.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2011
7:06 pm

Heyward got better coaching when he was in East Cobb Baseball.

Bobby P

September 30th, 2011
7:06 pm

When men make as much money as some of these atlanta braves and the management allows them to start the year as bad out of playing shape as i have seen over th past few years,they just can’t hold up for that long of a schedule, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s football, basketball or baseball.

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2011
7:08 pm

If Gonzalez is on a year-to-year contract, I would hire Tito.

steve

September 30th, 2011
7:09 pm

Here we go again is correct in listening to Joe, we need a proven hitting coach and not just another ex player that has never taught hitting before, remember just because you were a good hitter does not translate into being a good coach of it, one other change we need that I feel is bad is our defensive positioning, too many time we give up extra base hits down both lines, we also put on extreme shifts on Ryan Howard and then pitch him outside which in turn spoils the shift, makes no sense.Pitching we need to get back to the Leo Mazzone method of keeping most of our pitches outside and only wasting some way inside.

Double Zero Eight

September 30th, 2011
7:12 pm

Let McDwell go too! He was not impressive.
Bring back Mazzone.

Brave New World

September 30th, 2011
7:12 pm

Braves Org has no sentiments nor they are emotional…

Look at how they handled Smoltz, Glavine…..,
If someone is hurting the team then they don’t hesitate getting rid of them period.

I have a feeling Fredi will be gone soon….,

Go for TITO…………

Double Zero Eight

September 30th, 2011
7:13 pm

Spelled “McDowell incorrectly in previous post.

Puma

September 30th, 2011
7:13 pm

Doesn’t this make Fredi look like he has no say or just an idiot..not a good sign. I am not advocating the firing of Fredi, but he did some stupid crap here and there through out the season.

Bluestreak

September 30th, 2011
7:13 pm

With Tito’s availability, maybe Fredi should be releasing a statement saying that he spoke out of turn and agrees a new hitting voice should be heard…

Last I checked, Tito does have a better record than Fredi. I know that both their teams flamed out this year, but Tito has been to the Classic and won twice in sweeps. Fredi, hasn’t made the post season except as a third base coach.

Scott from Fairburn

September 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

Francona is manning up in this press conference …kudos to Frank Wren for the move … Contrary to the opinions of many in the blogosphere … The man is not an idiot

warlaw

September 30th, 2011
7:14 pm

All I can say is “it is a great start!” Now, get down to the serious business of jettisoning Gonzalez who in my humble opinion truly either does not know the intricacies of, or is to lazy or afraid to play, small ball, move players around the base paths, squeeze bunt, steal bases etc, etc. There should be a limit on the number of innings, pitches or appearances for “Oventbrel”. When pitchers are worn out they do not necessarily lose velocity, they lose accuracy and that is what killed Kimbrel & to some extent Venters the last month of the season. McDowell is a good pitching coach & could have interceded in the misuse of these young arms. Maybe next year is becoming an all to familiar refrain once again in Atlanta.

Grant

September 30th, 2011
7:15 pm

Now…if we can just get rid of Fredi G…we will be making some moves in the right direction.

Bobby P

September 30th, 2011
7:16 pm

I have been a braves fan since they came to atlanta, and i think these players do just as they please with no accountability to anyone and that includes the bobby cox era also. I don;t know who held the together thru their winning years but it certainly wasn’t cox, and frddie g fits the same pattern

Bobby P

September 30th, 2011
7:16 pm

I have been a braves fan since they came to atlanta, and i think these players do just as they please with no accountability to anyone and that includes the bobby cox era also. I don;t know who held the together thru their winning years but it certainly wasn’t cox, and frddie g fits the same pattern

John in Wichita

September 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

Out of the box idea… but Greg Maddux might actually make a great hitting coach. Greg usually knew what the hitters were thinking before they did. I honestly think Braves hitters could use some coaching in thinking like a pitcher sometimes.

Hillbilly D

September 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

Sounds like this move was made by Wren and not by Fredi. Doesn’t bode well for future relations between the two.

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

I can’t wait for the fallout from this. Fruiti announces he is bringing back his whole staff without consulting his boss and Wren put the kibosh on that and fires that waste of space.

This could get VERY interesting…

busterbrave

September 30th, 2011
7:17 pm

yeaaaaa!!!!

Delbert D.

September 30th, 2011
7:19 pm

Dang, I’m pumped! Hire Tito, and I’m buying tickets!

hildred shumake[Grandma Brave's fan!]

September 30th, 2011
7:20 pm

I really wish Chipper would go ahead to the hitting coach’s spot and open up third to Prado>>> He Does Know hitting, and pitchers, and predictions of what’s gonna be coming in situations.. that way we have Chipper’s influence with the team but as an asset ,not an iffy player!!

Joe Maddon

September 30th, 2011
7:22 pm

<———Ahem…. STILL DOUBTING ME???????????????

I'm taking a quick break from this BEATING that my Rays are currently handing out in Texas to let you guys know this was the right move. Hire a hitting coach with some experience, add a stud right field and upgrade at shortstop, and you're good to go!

RAYS ALL THE WAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TD has no clue!

September 30th, 2011
7:24 pm

Hire George Costanza he helped the Yankees win a series.

ohhhYEAH

September 30th, 2011
7:27 pm

Its kind of funny to hear all you people say “Oh Fredi tried to show up Wren,” “Oh Wren just showed Fredi who’s boss,” “Fredi has lost all the team’s and coaching staff’s confidence.” Why? Beacuse he ASSUMED that Parrish would be back? Or because he just misspoke before conferring with Wren? Man, you guys will literally take a mile given an inch. Reading WAY too far into this whole deal. And if i turn out to be wrong, then i turn out to be wrong, but as far as i am reading, its nowhere near as big a deal you people want this to be

bostonbravo

September 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

now Fredi please

Stinky

September 30th, 2011
7:28 pm

goodbye and good riddance.

bring back blauser

September 30th, 2011
7:29 pm

if the braves cannot get chipper’s dad or mccann’s dad maybe they should take a look at chris chambliss and while they are at it bring back leo mazzone at least with him the pitching staff did not go on the disabled list

Parrish Don't Let The........

September 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

Parrish don’t let the door hit ya, where the Good Lord split ya…….GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!

bostonbravo

September 30th, 2011
7:31 pm

replace with Uggla…just tell everyone to do his opposite & they’ll be fine. (uggla was ‘good’ for 20% of the year = BAD!)

Fredi Look Out

September 30th, 2011
7:33 pm

Fredi that light at the end of the tunnel is Frank Wren and he is coming for you!!!!! Good Riddance to you as well!!!!!!!

bring back blauser

September 30th, 2011
7:43 pm

better still hire chipper as player manager and let him pick his own staff

Forget Chipper's Dad or McCann's Dad

September 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

You idiots out there wanting Chipper’s or McCann’s Dad need to go stick your head in the toilet and flush it a couple of times……how idiotic can you be……..GET A REAL PROFESSIONAL TO COACH not some goof ball whose son just happened to make it to the major leagues…….

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

Make Derek Lowe the hitting coach. If we have to pay him $15M we might as well get something out of him.

Who knows more about hitting than Lowe? He gave up the most hits in baseball this year.

Scott from Fairburn

September 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

Three weeks into the season, one veteran Braves player said many of the players gained the sense during Spring Training that there might be some communication issues.

From Bowman on the Parrish dismissal at braves.com…

Buzz ME

September 30th, 2011
7:46 pm

NOW FIRE FREDI

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
7:46 pm

@Forget Chipper’s Dad or McCann’s Dad – Both of their dads are former college coaches you jackwagon.

FsuBrave

September 30th, 2011
7:46 pm

I’d fire Freddy too and hire francona

dave58

September 30th, 2011
7:51 pm

Sure the hitting coach had to go. But there is plenty of blame to go around. 1-players 2-coaches 3-management 4-owners. This is the entire organization’s failure. My fault for being in denial, thinking they were going to get better. I feel so crappy about being a Brave’s fan right now!

benchwarmer

September 30th, 2011
7:52 pm

Bobby Bobby, your right about FG being on the hot seat to start the season. Wren just walked all over him.

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

I really like what Wren is saying so far.

“Heyward’s going to be in a battle. It’s not a given he’s our right fielder,” Wren said. “He’s a young guy with a lot of potential. General managers say potential is good, but we need production.”

I would love to see Heyward build on his rookie year and start putting up the numbers he’s capable of, but folded like a chair when he was challenged by Constanza for playing time.

“It’s hard to project Derek Lowe as one of our starters at this point.”

This is the best news of all. I doubt we’ll be able to dump him, but at least Wren understands that we have better options available.

benchwarmer

September 30th, 2011
7:55 pm

Hire Francona, head and shoulders above FG!

benchwarmer

September 30th, 2011
7:56 pm

Does it seem that Wren alreaddy thinks of FG in the past tense?

bring back blauser

September 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

i think it is time for chipper to become player manager. at least the players listen to him. he knows how to approach players and he would have plenty of time at the double dime to interview a new coaching staff and to feel from the players who to keep and whom to trade. as i recall pete rose, lou boudreau, and frank robinson were decent player managers. and the fan base would love the idea of this really being chippers team

Hillbilly D

September 30th, 2011
8:04 pm

I thought Chipper was already tring to manage. He’s always telling everybody where he should hit in the order.

Hillbilly D

September 30th, 2011
8:05 pm

that should say “trying”

George Washington

September 30th, 2011
8:07 pm

Forget c. jones! We want winners.

"Chef" Tim Dix

September 30th, 2011
8:08 pm

Folks, the go forth tie is not Chipper but BMac.

How Wren handles him IS THE STORY.

Joe

September 30th, 2011
8:18 pm

What makes you people think that a hitting coach matters? The PLAYERS lost the wildcard. Ted Williams couldn’t save this sorry bunch. No team has ever collapsed like this and gone on to win ANYTHING. They should blow up the team.

G

September 30th, 2011
8:21 pm

My gosh the leadership of this team is so inept. I hope Gonzalez was called out for making a stupid comment like he did.

extremus

September 30th, 2011
8:25 pm

The offseason is still young, but I sense (and share) an overwhelming desire to see further changes and dismissals here. Change the manager and change the ownership now that the hated tax write-off is no longer holding Liberty Media back from dumping the Braves like the afterthought they’ve always been to them. Arthur Blank, buy ‘em now while their stock is down!!!!

Runnin With The Dawgs

September 30th, 2011
8:32 pm

I hope this is just the first of a FEW moves that need to be made. We can’t blame the hitting coach for ALL the problem we’ve had this year. We had a lot of injuries, which makes me wonder about the trainers that work with the players in the gym. I’m not saying our guys are weak by any means, but if they’re not in top shape they’re gonna get hurt playing almost every day for five months. I’ve been a Braves fan since they came to Atlanta and I’ll be a Braves fan ’till the day I die —- but I think we all need a break from baseball ’till next season.

Dawglasville

September 30th, 2011
8:36 pm

Step 1 complete.

M10

September 30th, 2011
8:40 pm

Thats the first step,the next step should be to fire F.Gonzalez or they will continue to suck,but the Braves love being a avg team.

Ted

September 30th, 2011
8:40 pm

Terry Pendleton should have been named the Braves manager last year. The man has paid his dues. Not only did he not get the job, Gonzalez moved him from hitting coach to first base coach, only to have to fire his incompetent replacement.

sean

September 30th, 2011
8:45 pm

to:here we go again,….your a genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kyle

September 30th, 2011
8:46 pm

Francona won’t be out there next year so by 3:40 tomorrow let’s have Fredi’s biography removed from the website and bring a winner in here who I’m sure will hire the right coaches and get rid of the dead wood that can’t make contact with the baseball (or pitch one) once Fall is in sight.

JSS

September 30th, 2011
8:49 pm

Arthur Blank? When are you fools finally going to see the light on that man? The bloom is off that road to any rational fan… You guys need to move on off that perch and get a clue!

This is the best of all scenarios for Parrish, just like Merv Rettenmund, this place, organization, and time is not a good match, especially with Chipper Jones in the mix undermining any hitting coach that’s been here… Seriously, look around baseball, and then look at the number of hitting coaches that have come through Atlanta during the period. Now what is the one common denominator? Seriously, the answer is easy…

JSS

September 30th, 2011
8:51 pm

“rose”

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
9:02 pm

How exactly is the bloom off the rose for Arthur Blank? He is a passionate owner that doesn’t interfere with his football people. Oh, and he has BIG bucks.

I think Arthur Blank Check would be a HUGE win for this organization. I’m not positive it will happen, but it would be nice. I would also like to see another Cuban in the organization other than Fruiti. Mark Cuban that is.

I do get a chuckle out of the people that think we can just fire Liberty Media. We have to endure them for one more season and then they will sell the club. Just hope we get someone that cares to buy them.

Hillbilly D

September 30th, 2011
9:03 pm

JSS

I’d agree that Arthur has got all he can handle with the Falcons.

1eyedJack

September 30th, 2011
9:14 pm

What’s Phillip Wellman doing these days? He would be able to at least keep the guys loose.

rally

September 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

Potential Candidate?: Former Brave Gerald Perry

The Athletics said Friday they aren’t renewing the contracts of bench coach Joel Skinner, pitching coach Ron Romanick and hitting coach Gerald Perry.

I know that Perry was once the batting coach in St. Louis as well.

No Parrish Apologist

September 30th, 2011
9:19 pm

Let’s see: I’ve seen all kinds of excuses for Parrish’s failure, ones plausible but were largely absent when TP was hitting coach. It would be refreshing for folks who always are trying to get coaches fired, finally admit they are idiots, and that folks with the organization know best. In short, TP was not the problem. Nor was Fredi. Players need to take responsibility for this mess.

As for Chipper and McCann and your other saviors, I don’t recall seeing them among league leaders in anything. Braves fans are the worst.

Hillbilly D

September 30th, 2011
9:21 pm

Phillip Wellman spent this year as the hitting coach for the AA, Springfield Cardinals of the Texas League.

iTiSi

September 30th, 2011
9:23 pm

Worrying and wondering about who the next hitting coach will be makes about as much sense as worrying about whether it’s going to rain tomorrow or not. That is the least of the Brave’s problems!

rally

September 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

Correction on Perry: Played for Cardinals but was not coach.

Gerald June Perry (born October 30, 1960 in Savannah, Georgia) is a former first baseman in Major League Baseball who played from 1983 to 1995 for the Atlanta Braves, Kansas City Royals and St. Louis Cardinals. Perry was selected to the 1988 National League All-Star team. In 1993 he tied a St. Louis Cardinal single-season club record with 24 pinch hits, and in 1995 he became the Cardinals’ all-time pinch-hit leader with 70th Cardinal pinch hit.

Perry was hitting coach for the Seattle Mariners from 2000-2002, the Pittsburgh Pirates from 2003-2005, the Oakland Athletics in 2006, and the Chicago Cubs from 2007 until he was fired on June 13, 2009. The Cubs replaced him with Von Joshua. In 2011, the Athletics re-hired him as batting coach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Perry

iTiSi

September 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like FG is no longer in charge, and if you fire the hitting coach for the reasons given, then you must also fire the pitching coach. In fact, why not fire the whole dang bunch and just start over. Couldn’t be any worse! Atlanta’s attendance next season will probably rival Florida’s. There’s may even be better with the new stadium in a different location.

JSS

September 30th, 2011
9:28 pm

Rowsdower
September 30th, 2011
9:02 pm
“How exactly is the bloom off the rose for Arthur Blank? He is a passionate owner that doesn’t interfere with his football people. Oh, and he has BIG bucks.”

Blank has not had “BIG bucks” since 2005. He has been trying to spread his stake in the Falcons since at least 2008. He is in the midst of even with a pre-nup a financial big hit to his bottom line with his soon to be ex-wife. He has more interest in a new stadium and a MLS franchise than he does in the Braves by the way… There are other rich people in the metro area. And like the Hawks, you are better off looking outside of the area and find somebody trying to climb that ladder, Blank is not the answer…

Rowsdower

September 30th, 2011
9:46 pm

@iTiSi – The Braves had the 3rd best ERA in baseball even with bLowe rocking a 5+ ERA. Don’t see how this is McDowell’s fault.

@JSS – If that is what you meant by “bloom off the rose” sobeit. I thought you were saying he was a bad owner. Screw it, let’s get Oprah to buy them. She has nothing to do now :b

You've got to be kidding

September 30th, 2011
10:01 pm

Send them to sports-a-rama (East Cobb of course) to get some cuts in going to the park.

Joe Maddon

September 30th, 2011
10:10 pm

Ted,

I agree! In terms of in-house candidates, Pendleton was/is the best man for the job. Only problem, the offense fell apart for the Braves last season and he took the fall, so it would be tough to name him the head man after he’s been demoted.

Now tell me: Have you seen my Rays?

Joe Maddon

September 30th, 2011
10:14 pm

AS far as looking externall, you guys better hope Francona wants to take a season off from baseball. I doubt Wren fires Gonzalez now, but after going over Fredi’s head for this one, it’s easy to see that one more let down means he’s out. So if Francona goes away and does TV for a while and Fredi screws it up in 2012. You might see Tito stepping in to lead a new post-Chipper Jones era of Braves baseball. Sounds pretty good to me.

How ’bout them Rays?

Heyward grounds out to second

September 30th, 2011
10:17 pm

Chipper should be a player coach. Why not? Sign him to small deal, and then when he retires make him a full time hitting coach.

Hell hire him to be the manager. FG is a moron. Has been a bad coach all year. Made poor decisions.

Who would I rather pitch to Hunter Pence or Victor Martinez. FG doesn’t even think about it and loses the game.

Keep Vizcaino in that Dodgers game and blew it without even talking to him.

The list goes on. A terrible manager that doesn’t know how to manage in game and makes poor decisions when facing formidable hitters in big time games. Heck, he doesn’t even make a decision he has no strategy in his game management other than O’Flaherty, Venters and Kimbrel.

Kimbrel needs to step up next year and prove he’s a big game pitcher. He was clutch all year, but in pressure games, he cracks. He did it last year, he did it this year. I know he’s young, but he’s got to step it up.

DA MURF3

September 30th, 2011
10:19 pm

francona HERE NOW

JSS

September 30th, 2011
10:32 pm

Oprah, has plenty to do, she has TV network and a school for girls to run…

I’m no big fan of Blank as a owner by no means… He’s better than the Clampetts and the ASG or Time-Warner; but Atlantans have got to stop accepting better than those mistakes as a greatness. He’s just a better effort with the same trail of disappointment on his CV…

J.T.Ellenwood

September 30th, 2011
10:46 pm

The reason Fredi not in Florda now he didn’t make right decision at the right time as far as using his players. Frank got use one of the best leadoff hitter in game you leave at first base so Prado can hit in to double play. Instead of giving him green light to run.

Boyz From North Ave

September 30th, 2011
10:47 pm

looks like Wren is stepping in to right the ship…….Tik tok Fredi…..ur next u LOSER!

crime dog

September 30th, 2011
11:03 pm

I give it my full endorsement!

crime dog

September 30th, 2011
11:04 pm

just please don’t make me wear that ugly hat again!

Dubious

September 30th, 2011
11:34 pm

How about Raul Mondesi as the batting coach?

braveshoo

September 30th, 2011
11:38 pm

Hire Don Baylor as hitting coach and Terry Francona as manager.

Fredi is a fraud.

September 30th, 2011
11:43 pm

What will this team experiment with next and blame someone when it fails? First it was Troy Glaus as a first baseman last year and Parrish as hitting coach. Prado slipped through the cracks as an outfielder but you can say the same for SAY HEY. The Constanza injury and benching crippled the team in favor of looking like a second division team that it started out as being. Their 89-73 record was overrated.Played like a 73-89 team when it counted. Hinske and Conrad are flash in the pans. Need new faces and a batting coach to get Uggla to sacrifice the HR swing for some RBIs and higher average. The AAA batting and pitching coaches could do no worse than Parrish and McDowell. It’s a shame that McDowell is still there but maybe he get’s a q&a too.

bravesfanforever

October 1st, 2011
12:27 am

Hey Freddie I hear the fat lady singing.She is singing nana na na hey hey goodbye.Adios Amigos.Man did Frank Wren make you look even more stupid than you already are.I tip my cap to frank wren.I wonder how long it took d. lowe to get drunk.kk gone Mclouth gone,parrish gone lowe needs to go and so does porky pig hinske must have put on at least 25lbs last couple of months.Get good hitting coach now so he can work with these young hitters and see if heyward is worth saving.I think he is.

Chip

October 1st, 2011
12:37 am

Maybe, since we are paying Chipper All Star, 150 starts a year money for what have become journeyman, 120 starts a year statistics, just maybe we should offer the job to Chipper. Let him be a player-coach. Then maybe we would start hitting the ball better, and smarter as he obviously knows how to hit, and works a count as well as anyone. Also, we could feel better about paying him 14 mil a year to play part time if he were also coaching.

BooBoo

October 1st, 2011
12:57 am

I remember reading Jim Bouton’s Ball Four and the inspiring talks his Seattle Pilot’s manager would tell the players, “Keep pumping that Budwieser!” These days the game has changed, but remained the same. I believe there are managers, (especially like Tony LaRussa) and therefore batting coaches, that have the philosophy, “Keep hitting those steroids.” No need to work on fundamentals. Just need to rig the body up to the point that hitting the ball by accident can mean a home run. Make it so strong that you hit 500 home runs faster than any other human had before. Unfortunately, try to run the bases and pop an ankle or knee, and try to throw out a runner and a robot’s arm muscles tweaks those not designed to get strong oblique muscles. The Braves need a batting coach when in the minor leagues. In the majors they just need someone to do the injecting and discarding of syringes, while manipulating the “random drug test” name pool so all the minor leaguer names are on the top. I think the best thing for all baseball would be a pee test before every game, just like they give the cheaters in the Tour de France. Don’t pass, don’t play … ever. Steroids is why a baseball player keeps swinging at the unhittable pitches and takes the fat ball down the middle. Their brains shrink just like their family jewells. The problem with the Braves the last 30 games was they kept doing the same thing expecting a different result (the definition of insanity) and the players were not bright enough to realize that themselves. Blame it on the batting coach, though. Its easier to make it all go under the rug with one sacrificial lamb.

ubah

October 1st, 2011
1:05 am

Starting to love the idea of have Chipper be a player-coach. Wondering if Francona is that good or if the Red Sox’s were just loaded. When Francona was in the National League he was a sub .500 manager. Love the idea of Tito in the dug out, just don’t know.

o-me

October 1st, 2011
1:15 am

Was Wren happy with Fredi’s answer..holy cow Fire the Stupid Manager.

Bill

October 1st, 2011
1:19 am

Hire Greg Walker as new hitting coach. The man know hittting and how to coach it… 9 years with White Sox and he excelled at his craft. Make the call Wren.

NO MORE PARRISH

October 1st, 2011
1:28 am

NOW CHANGE YOUR MIND ON FAT FREDI MR. WREN AND BRING US FRANCONA.

Marvel Goose

October 1st, 2011
1:34 am

Ya’ll need to lay off Chip.I think that he has all the tools to be a fine play by play guy, he just needs some seasoning in radio. It forces you to make good conversation and to learn pacing and setup. They should go back to the old days of swapping the radio and TV announcers at mid-game. Not only would that help Chip, it would also give Joe Powell and Don some TV time and develop the entire broadcast team.

bernie0

October 1st, 2011
1:46 am

FIRE FAT FREDI,AND TELL FAT ASS MCANN TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT

bernie0

October 1st, 2011
1:48 am

THE ATLANTA BRAVES ALSO HAD PITCHERS GETTING DRUNK AS WELL,ASK LOWE

bernie0

October 1st, 2011
1:53 am

Things that need to happen
1.Make sure derrick lowe attend aa meetings
2. Tell chipper to stay away from hooters
3.FW needs to fine everyone who shows up at spring traning FAT including FAT FREDI
4.Prado should be fine jis mommy is here,somebody should babysit him
5.Moylan u got what u deserved,bs all the time on dl wearing woman’s clothes,go to ny,u feel right at home there
6.heyward quit tweetingand do your dam job.

bernie0

October 1st, 2011
1:56 am

eliminate all junk food and alcohol in the clubhouse,players like d.lowe,bmac will perform a lot better.
hire a conditioning coach,these wimpls play 5 days/week 6 hours,6 months and get f hurt all the time,go get a real job,and see if that works out for ya

bernie0

October 1st, 2011
1:57 am

Why i said u idiotic writers would not last in boston,u guys r stuck here.

betterorworse

October 1st, 2011
1:58 am

can we fire that POS DOB WHILE WE R AT IT?

bernard

October 1st, 2011
2:16 am

have u fans drunk this koolaide so quickly…its a diversion…fire the fools who failed to perform…u can lead a horse to water but u cant make it drink?…parrish is the scapegoat…wren got lowe and kawasaki…sorry kawakami…he should be otta here…FG is an idiot…outta here…owners rteally ssssuck and should stop the poor mouthing and sell team if it cant afford to get talent from the top to the bottom…dont be fooled by this move of tokenism…dont attend this rag tag “entertainment”…sponge bob is more fun!…un see they just wanna make enough money in a middle mkt town to get by…give u just enough to tease ur butt to be suckered into filling their corporate pockets…must be hard ti turn a profit in a middle mkt town…if thats the case…then forget it about it!…if you dont play to win…why play at all??? isnt that what USA is about…WINNING???? not losing….LOSERS!!!!!! Qutters sssssuck dont they????….please dont support them…its unamerican…are they the iran braves???? coursr not!!!…we are AMERICANS AND WE ARE WINNERS!!!! so get off your butts and lets get a winner in here or get the hell out of town you bunch of lousy LLLLLLOSERS!!!!!

baseball fan

October 1st, 2011
2:33 am

most hitting coaches realize that hitting coaches roles are overrated: common sense says that the coach isn’t the one in the batter’s box facing pitches: the players have to do their job. period.

everyone how commented should read this article from perspective from a familiar brave –>
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110701&content_id=21244612&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Sam

October 1st, 2011
3:32 am

I pleaded with Freddi not to pitch Lowe again all that last month. Anybody else. Any of the young pitchers would have got us at least one more victory. Probably would have been enough. You should have listened, Fredi.

Rowsdower

October 1st, 2011
4:41 am

Let’s make deez nutz manager and dis wang hitting coach. God knows it has the experience hitting on everything in the bar.

legionaire

October 1st, 2011
7:02 am

Since it is a given that Chipper will be a part time player, let him be a player-coach. His hitting skills, mental toughness, and baseball knowlege are superior. He is well respected by his teammates. You don’t need a full time batting coach.

Packer Ed

October 1st, 2011
8:14 am

I will not celebrate until I hear who the replacement is

Bama Mike

October 1st, 2011
10:15 am

Well now we have the Frank & Fredi show to look forward to. Every night on FSS right after The BOZO Show.

Bama Mike

October 1st, 2011
10:18 am

Who is the Yankee’s hitting coach. I dont know either. Shows how important they are. Another PR move by the genius Wren to deflect blame off himself due to the public outrage of the collapse.

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Bill Donohoo

October 1st, 2011
4:48 pm

It was important to make this change. Obviously, something was not working. However, the worst part of the whole situation was Fredi’s satement. It was as if the whole staff was not at fault and we will continue on as if nothing happened. There was no sense of urgency.

I agree it will take more than a few changes to get the fans back. However, I will be there for Spring Training and I hope I will see a different team and a different attitude among the players and the COACHES!!

Heyward needs to be in the hot seat

October 1st, 2011
5:15 pm

The BIG ZERO Heyward needs to be in the hot seat…..they ought to consider trading him.

JT

October 2nd, 2011
9:34 am

So that was “not the way Fredi works” tough S@@t Fredi, you are still a lousy manager, and now we know you do not really run the team.

JT

October 2nd, 2011
9:35 am

Think we could get a bag of balls and bats for Jason????

dave

October 2nd, 2011
10:37 am

“How about the Murph?”

Nah, they already know how to swing at everything low and outside.

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