Damage for Georgia Tech’s future should be limited
NCAA sanctions can't change this picture (or reality).
A few random thoughts while Georgia Tech fans try to wrap themselves around the fact the Yellow Jackets officially never won the 2009 ACC championship. (Yeah, whatever.)
1. Damage for the future should be limited.
It’s going to be painful when Tech returns the ACC championship trophy to the conference. But really, what does it mean? The problem with the NCAA forcing a team to vacate victories as a penalty is it’s just a symbolic gesture. The games have been played. The revenue has been generated (and spent). Tech beat Clemson 39-34 for the title and moved on to the Orange Bowl. Done. The NCAA put Tech on four years probation but is not stripping the football program of any scholarships, limiting recruiting or banning bowl appearances. Coach Paul Johnson can’t advertise his conference championship but it doesn’t lessen him as a coach to recruits.
2. More fallout isn’t likely
A few readers have asked if I believe athletic director Dan Radakovich is in trouble because of this and whether he may lose his job. I don’t think so. Radakovich fell on the sword on a little Thursday but he also denied that he or anybody at the school intentionally tried to obstruct the NCAA’s investigation, which is what led to most of the penalties. There was a strange mix of remorse and anger in the room at Thursday’s news conference. But I never got a sense that there was a division between Radakovich and Tech president G.P “Bud” Peterson, who ultimately signed off on wide receiver Demaryius Thomas playing the last three games of 2009. Tech’s general counsel (retired) and compliance officer (left) at the time of the infractions and investigation are gone. Peterson also alluded to a changes in the athletic department’s structure. I sense that will be the extent of the fallout.
3. Did the punishment fit the crime?
Repeating: It’s an oversimplification to say Tech lost the ACC title because one player allegedly received $312 worth of clothing. Dennis Thomas, who chairs the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions, conceded it might’ve been a secondary infraction if school representatives had acted more professional during the investigation. That said, there obviously are MUCH worse things going on in college athletics right now, and if the NCAA doesn’t slam programs Ohio State, Oregon and North Carolina for infractions far more blatant than what Tech did, something is wrong.
4. Something we’ll never know …
Radakovich is a competitive guy. Johnson is a competitive guy. The 2009 season was shaping up as one of Tech’s biggest in years. The Jackets maintain that they would’ve declared Thomas ineligible if they believed he might’ve committed an infraction but were convinced otherwise. Here’s the issue: At the time of the interviews with the NCAA, Tech had its three biggest games coming up: Georgia, the ACC championship and potentially a BCS bowl game. It’s reasonable to speculate they might’ve been more cautious if the stakes weren’t so high. Peterson only admitted that, in hindsight, Tech should’ve declared Thomas ineligible and immediately sought reinstatement from the NCAA, hoping for a quick resolution.
5. What next for basketball?
Could things possibly get worse for the basketball program? New coach Brian Gregory inherits a program that not only slipped under Paul Hewitt, it’s on probation. Again, the violation was minor: A grad assistant helped run an AAU tournament on campus. The sanctions: Two fewer recruiting days during the summer period; a limit of 10 official visits for two seasons; no complimentary tickets for high school coaches and individuals associated with recruits for the first home game of next season (self-imposed). The penalties are minor. But it’s not exactly the morale boost the program was hoping for.
By Jeff Schultz
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178 comments Add your comment
JackDennis
July 15th, 2011
10:29 am
Tech should have a $179,688 credit. Long way to go to top Auburn..
superDawg
July 15th, 2011
10:31 am
reduced to cheaters.
David from Athens, AL
July 15th, 2011
10:31 am
Thanks for the recap! Hope Tech has a good season this year! GO Jackets!
superDawg
July 15th, 2011
10:31 am
chop chop
Delbert D.
July 15th, 2011
10:32 am
How does this affect the attitude of the team?
Ozzy
July 15th, 2011
10:38 am
All this for not bending over for the NCAA for a $312 investigation? Really?
Next time they’ll kiss that ring like good subjects should. If the NCAA would have come out and said – “don’t play those two players” at the time – this would be a secondary violation. The whole thing is fricken stupid as heck.
The NCAA and the BCS need to be abolished. Pinheaded money grabbers is all they are.
Jerry
July 15th, 2011
10:39 am
So now the past three GT coaches have been involved in “major infraction” cases in the past decade…sigh
http://coachesbythenumbers.com/coach-rankings/?reportId=22
JackDennis
July 15th, 2011
10:39 am
Agree with Ozzy. That’s all they is.
Siddy
July 15th, 2011
10:41 am
Mad as hell and ain’t gonna take any more (clothes ) if I think I’ll get caught.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:44 am
Please enlighten us on what major violation Johnson was involved in, Jerry.
Gatorman
July 15th, 2011
10:46 am
I’m not making excuses for any illegal action that allows a college an unfair advantage. However, an SEC school that starts with an “A” buys a prize player to win a national championship for who knows how many hundreds of thousands and is cleared, the NCAA comes down on tech football player that received some clothes from his cousin. I see the NCAA is on top of their game. The college presidents really need to eliminate this organization from any contact with their schools, and establish one that answers to a board with a representative from each football conference. It’s obvious the NCAA is out of control, biased and unable to be fair across the full spectrum of schools it represents.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:47 am
I also can’t understand the idea that somehow Tech cheated. I am also a bit amused by the idea that the people saying we cheated are the same people who complained about how misguided the NCAA was last year after Green got suspended.
goldwreck
July 15th, 2011
10:47 am
I was reminded by a Georgia friend of Thomas dropping that pass
that any other time he would have caught.That may have been the difference in that game.So if Thomas doesn’t play maybe the backup
catches the pass and Tech wins.
Ozzy
July 15th, 2011
10:49 am
As long as that back up wasn’t named “Skillet Hands Hill”.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:50 am
Eh, can’t agree with that, goldwreck. Remember Hill had gotten hurt on 2nd down (I think) and if our receivers have proven anything, it’s that catching anything is something they struggle with.
Heavy Dawg Walkin'
July 15th, 2011
10:51 am
Chin up, nerds. At least there will be much more elbow room at your little stadium this fall.
I’d buy you all a Coke if they weren’t already free on gameday.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:52 am
Ha! Agreed, Ozzie. I am cautiously optimistic about him improving this year, though.
buzzfarts
July 15th, 2011
10:52 am
what a great program, well it is something to be proud of. lets see, what am i trying to say? oh i remember—karma gets back to you dont ya think?
JB
July 15th, 2011
10:53 am
I said it all yesterday( in jest). Tech, do like the University of Georgia has done, After Kemp, Harrick, D. Evans. Learn from it, chin up and become a better run program. The pressure to win with multi million dollar contracts for coaches and scum trying to make a dollar off a player is everywhere. Sorry for yesterday, but you know, if it was us…well, you know…good luck this season.
Big Macon DAWG
July 15th, 2011
10:53 am
Again, you got spanked because the NCAA doesn’t perceive you as a cash-cow-money-maker that lines their pocket$.
Ohio State on the other hand??? We can wait and see. But I don’t beleive the NCAA is going to cut off the hand that feed$ them.
Sorry Tech fans. But you got hosed.
Rick
July 15th, 2011
10:53 am
Tech lies and cheats… It’s one thing to cheat like Auburn and win the NC, but to cheat and go 5-6, 7-4 etc, is just poor management.
In other words, Auburn spent their money wisely. It’s all in the budgeting and use of resources or the university and alumni and street agents etc.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:54 am
Time to come up with some new material, Heavy. You’re no different than the idiot Tech fans who call your whole team thugs and all your fans rednecks. Grow up already.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
10:57 am
Yes, we know, JB. Yellow Fuzz and his type would be all over it.
Which makes a lot of the UGA fans doing it no different.
JB
July 15th, 2011
10:59 am
Rick, not even close to the same thing. I will say after talking to some of my Tech friends this AM, it’s more of an embarrassment than anything, except the 100K. No bowl,TV or player restrictions.
GTBrad
July 15th, 2011
10:59 am
Although the immediate consequences may not seem so bad (to some people, atleast), the integrity of the program as a whole has been damaged and that might be the biggest downside of all when it comes to the future of the program. I hope that’s not the case… Jerry, have teams with NCAA violations like these bounced back relatively quickly or is Tech tainted for seasons to come?
Greg
July 15th, 2011
11:01 am
THe ncaa is a joke and bedford is right. Clothes? Are you kidding me? When the word he received clothes was uttered to the ncaa, they should have said ok. Move on. Clothes. What a total joke this has become. Cars money expensive jewelry I get. Clothes? Well he received a pair of jeans and two polo shirts. Holy cow! Let’s investigate! Heck get someone involved to get the ncaa off the backs. I see no reason why tech reacted the way they did. It’s freaking garments. This is the dumbest thing I’ve heard of and it never should have even been looked at. Hell I went to target last week and bought about $100 in clothes, mostly childrens. $300 is nothing. It’’s a freaking cheap suit at J A B.
George Stein
July 15th, 2011
11:02 am
Bedford was awesome, Greg.
GTBrad
July 15th, 2011
11:03 am
Sorry I meant to address my question to Schulz…
JB
July 15th, 2011
11:03 am
Greg, it wasn’t the clothes. The NCAA felt Tech dissed them. Way too much power.
wes
July 15th, 2011
11:06 am
Tech will appeal. The only thing Thomas kept was a used pair of tennis shoes (valued at $45). There were no agents involved at all.
Jeff, have you read GT’s official reaction to this? If so, what are the chances of the penalties being less than they currently stand?
PerimeterCenterJacket
July 15th, 2011
11:06 am
I’m not even mad anymore. We’re still about to have a great season. Way to increase the chip-on-my-shoulder rage among our players, though. Bedford’s pissed, and that ENTIRE team respects him despite him not being on campus anymore. You can be we’re taking it ALL out on the field this season. SO much bulletin board material for the coaching staff to use here. Thing is, we should be able to back it up, too. Same great offense – now with a D-line and some mean linebackers. Watch us surprise some folks.
GO JACKETS!
bucket
July 15th, 2011
11:11 am
I am no Tech apologist, but this is why the NCAA investigation/enforcement system needs to change. All they had to do was tell Tech to suspend the players they were investigating to avoid future punishment. But they leave schools in limbo land and then try to drop the hammer later. This is why the Green situation was so frustrating last year for UGA. If he plays in some of those games theres a chance UGA’s season would have turned out a lot better. For some to say that Tech should have sat Thomas and asked NCAA to reinstate him – what are the chances that Thomas would have been reinstated as quickly as Newton was last year? Tech gets in trouble because they didn’t suspend a player who allegely received a little over $300 in benefits and Auburn has a player reinstated in 1 day whose daddy was shopping him for over $180,000! Yeah that makes sense NCAA.
Bradford
July 15th, 2011
11:14 am
What I want to know is who is the clothes police? Did they collect a hangar as evidence? Or was it a macy’s box? Who rats out on clothes? Hey he got some fine linens for $312. Let’s inform the ncaa. This has got to be the dumbest case I’ve ever read and I see why gt would have laughed at the ncaa. Appeal this stupid decision.
T3
July 15th, 2011
11:16 am
One fact that seems to be getting repeatedly overlooked is that GT contacted
the ACC for guidance and the ACC gave GT their assessment and gave GT clearance
to play Thomas.
I hope GT will appeal this ruling.
The NCAA has become a self-serving, money-extorting rogue entity
that no longer serves thepurpose it was designed to serve and needs
to be dramatically reformed.
Not @ Kohls
July 15th, 2011
11:18 am
Hey Techies, come on in to Kohls… We have a surplus of 2009 ACC Chumps shirts on sale for $3.12, bwahahahhahahahaahahaaaaaa!
Greg
July 15th, 2011
11:18 am
I get that. And I would diss them too. In fact I would give them a 1 finger salute too. All tech fans players staff should take all their old cothes and collect them and give them to the morons who felt this was so serious that it warranted an investigation.
macrotech
July 15th, 2011
11:20 am
superDawg, we ALL know that the written language is tough for you (based on your inability to put a coherent sentence together). With that in mind, we’ll understand that you think this is about Tech ‘cheating’. Wipe your chin…you JUST dribbled ignorance again.
Sonny Clusters
July 15th, 2011
11:20 am
We was always disposed to Clemson but that was because of the landscape program there. We also looked at engineering at Tech but we thought the library was too small and too close to the tunnel. Anyway, we are sorry to see this happen and we hope things get better for Tech soon. If we had played ball on Grant Field we would have caused heart attacks in the East stands where all the old people sit and that would have been tragic.
PerimeterCenterJacket
July 15th, 2011
11:20 am
Not @ Kohl’s: That is genuinely funny. Good job. I hate seeing Tech getting made fun of, but when it’s good it’s good. Props.
Greg
July 15th, 2011
11:21 am
Bucket. Clothes are not a benefit. That’s why they have clothing drives and collections for the needy. Clothes are a necessity. Just like food. Dumbest ruling the ncaa has ever made. F em.
Okefenokee Dawg
July 15th, 2011
11:26 am
The thing that Tech must worry about in the future is that they are one step away from that dreaded double secret probation.
F*cking A
July 15th, 2011
11:26 am
I’m sure they’ll throw and * next to their 2009 ACC banner… No big deal.
juvenal
July 15th, 2011
11:26 am
for the daaugs-we say thwg cuz we don’t CARE what you say(or think, when applicable)–fine we’re bad, give the kids fatigues or yellow jump suits(solves the clothing issue), don’t get mad at nzaa, get even-on the field…….
Woody Piper
July 15th, 2011
11:27 am
Move on.
Memo to ncaa
July 15th, 2011
11:34 am
better go back and look at store surveliance cameras at belk in clemson in 09. Spiller was there with someones credit card buying some hanes undies and some shirts. That’s a violation!
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
11:36 am
TIME OUT… TIME OUT…. TIME OUT
Just had a Prime Time Deion Sanders siting at Dicks/Northpoint. Man, the dude has skinny calves.
Bill
July 15th, 2011
11:36 am
Let the Georgia trolls have their fun. By mid-October they will be screaming for Richt’s head and having to put up with all the Tech trolls on their blogs.
Jason
July 15th, 2011
11:36 am
tech fans should drive to ncaa headquarters of the office where the idiots who made this ruling and take off all their clothes and walk in naked to show them what exactly it is they punished them for.
Heavy Dawg Walkin'
July 15th, 2011
11:38 am
Uh-oh, I think I hurt someone’s feelings!
Sonny Clusters
July 15th, 2011
11:42 am
This is easier than you think. The NCAA doesn’t want the student athlete to get the clothes so that the student athlete won’t sell the clothes.
Tech Fan
July 15th, 2011
11:44 am
Sean Bedfords letter to the NCAA was great!!
Mark, Mark---The Hair Lip Dog
July 15th, 2011
11:46 am
When you have kids who grow up po, that is more than poor, immature and cannot spell cat, unless it has been stated as I be, then $312.00 is quick money. One only needs to look at the players on these teams to realize slavery is still a big business for College football. The ncaa is a joke.
Les W. Moore
July 15th, 2011
11:48 am
Time for Obama to step in and provide some leadeship.
What? This isn’t Cynthia Tucker’s column?
collegedude
July 15th, 2011
11:51 am
Don’t know why the tech fans are crying so much. This isn’t a major penalty. Guess when you win so few football games it sucks when you have your only ACC crown taken away for playing ineligible players.
Les W. Moore
July 15th, 2011
11:51 am
Jeff, hypothetically, can the NCAA require a team to return the BCS trophy?
Keeper
July 15th, 2011
11:52 am
Impartial observer here (i.e., neither an SEC or ACC grad). Seems to me that the NCAA’s inadvertent message is that “Tech, you’re not an experienced enough cheater to understand how powerful we are. So we’re going to make an example of you.” I understand why the NCAA would crack down on any form of obstruction – they have to. But it’s pretty sad that if only Tech were more knowledgeable about playing the NCAA infractions game – i.e., if they’d cheated more often in the past and knew better how to respond to an NCAA inquiry – then they’d likely still have their title. Big-time college athletics is so far out of control that I have no confidence whatsoever in the NCAA’s policing ability – it’s going to take a lot more than actions like this for the bureaucrats to convince me they’re remotely serious about reigning in the abuse.
Veteran Fan
July 15th, 2011
11:56 am
This committee is a joke and their findings are severly flawed! As a graduate, I urge Tech to appeal and put this before another committee with cooler heads who are not on a witch hunt! I have read the report and it is doublespeak at its best! This is what passes for integrity in academia these days! Please call their bluff and force them to defend this to others! Someone must put a stop to this, but be careful! Remember UNLV and them going after Coach Tarkanian just because he called them out! They don’t seem to be able to find Columbus, Opelika, and Lexington! To HELL with the NCAA!!!!
Ramblin Recluse Road
July 15th, 2011
12:00 pm
damage no different than penalty called during football game or foul called during basketball game that temporarily sets back teams, but has no bearing on the rest of each of those games that have to be culminated; if team played games and never were penalized, they would have played perfect game, about like pitcher pitching no-hitter; all Tech’s games will be played this Fall and Winter w/o damage, w/o any albatross hanging over Tech’s back neck and shoulders
GTBrad
July 15th, 2011
12:03 pm
@collegdude, Can you name any team that wouldn’t be upset for having their conference championship taken away??? Good try though.
Steven
July 15th, 2011
12:07 pm
I’m no Tech fan, but this is amazing. They got clobbered for what appears to be a secondary violation. As always, from Watergate to Monica Lewinsky it’s not what you did but the cover-up. It seems to the NCAA that Tech tried to interfere or obstruct the investigation. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it’s a huge blow to the program. The big problem now is public perception. They must stay absolutely clean for a long time. Still in my mind with what’s happening at Oregon, Ohio State and Auburn, this is extraordinary.
DC
July 15th, 2011
12:10 pm
maybe AJC should interview Sean Bedford..Im no tech fan or UGA fan..but that letter was LEGIT!
DentalDawg
July 15th, 2011
12:14 pm
Oh I would LOVE to see this article had this been UGA. The Paul Tech love is endless
Inept
July 15th, 2011
12:16 pm
It seems to me that Tech had an inept legal staff dispensing advice. Any fallout it seems to me should be in the legal department. I don’t really belive that Tech’s retired general counsel provided all of the “bad” advice by himself. There is a sizeable legal staff at Tech.
Ted M
July 15th, 2011
12:24 pm
Man, Tech’s basketball program stinks right now…they are the likely last place team for a couple of years.
Maybe they’ll get Bruce Pearl in 3 years.
still wondering
July 15th, 2011
12:25 pm
how this clothes transaction came to the attention of he nzaa…did a dog hear someone talk (brag?) and notify the nz boys?
Jingle Dingle
July 15th, 2011
12:28 pm
All I have to say is it will be interesting to see how UNC and OSU are handled. If they are found to have committed the MAJOR violations that they are charged with, the correct response should be the death penalty. I mean if we are talking proportional responses her, then it only seems fair.
Chuck
July 15th, 2011
12:38 pm
I love it, when the NCAA is chippy with UGA, the Tech fans cheer them as the noble champions of justice, smacking down the ne’er do-wells with mighty justice.
Now that the same anal-retentive hammer is pounding them, the NCAA is suddenly the very devil himself.
Hilarious and entertaining. More popcorn please.
The next time the jerks from the NCAA come calling, you should just commit sepuku like we do in Athens, it saves time and anguish – because if there’s one thing to be learned, the NCAA’s brand of dartboard justice can NEVER be predicted.
Chuck
July 15th, 2011
12:41 pm
Dental, rest assured, much like when it comes to the arrests in Athens, had UGA been on the receiving end, the Seargent here would be gleefully admonishing the UGAA for getting caught and punished and NOT apologizing for the severity of the punishment despite the absurdity of the “crime.”
But with the Sarge you gotta take what you can get.
Reebok
July 15th, 2011
12:42 pm
if Johnson is smart he will use this ridculous example of NCAA overreach to fire up his guys and give them a pi$$ed off, us-against-the-world mentality…work the players into a fury that THE MAN is against them…that’s what I’d do, anyway.
juvenal
July 15th, 2011
12:43 pm
got my yellow jumpsuit ordered(dickies has them), will be easy to spot at games–get some for the team, they won’t need other clothes…….
juvenal
July 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
so, Jeff, what law school did corbin go to?
KLStewart
July 15th, 2011
12:56 pm
There is an irony here in that without Thomas, Tech MIGHT have beaten Georgia in ‘09. Yes, Thomas made a big play for a touchdown, but it was answered immediately (which kept Tech from taking control of the game as they had in ‘08), but he (Thomas) also dropped the critical 4th down pass that ended Tech’s last gasp. (To hear Tech fans talk, he dropped the winning TD pass, but last time I checked, points are not awarded for making the 30 yard line … that’s another story.)
A lot would have had to fall in place in 2009, of course, but it would have been a different game plan and maybe the “genius” [sic] Paul Johnson would have stayed with the ground game more and the outcome MAY have been different. Undeniably, it would have been a different game and Georgia probably would have won considering that Tech was about the only team in the country with a defense worse than UGA’s that year — but you never know. Either way, the outcome was just and set the world back on its proper axis.
I wonder how this scrape with the NCAA all jives with the Tech’s inspirational “Total Person” program?
Gman
July 15th, 2011
12:59 pm
Jason
July 15th, 2011
11:36 am
tech fans should drive to ncaa headquarters of the office where the idiots who made this ruling and take off all their clothes and walk in naked to show them what exactly it is they punished them for.
Well, if nude tech fans “shows them what they punished them for”, I’m sure all concerned would realize how impossibly small this thing really is.
Big Dawg...
July 15th, 2011
1:03 pm
NCAA takes aim at UNC….
misses & hits GT…
Banks
July 15th, 2011
1:15 pm
@ Big Dawg… HAHAHAHA
Lilburn Dawg
July 15th, 2011
1:16 pm
Yeh I graduated from the Dog School, but I don’t like to see this happen to our good ole Ga Tech buddies!! The NCAA is just going bonkers over the petty stuff while bigger infractions take the back seat. Seems to me that penalties such as losing your conference championship or other wins should occur if something against the rules happened that had a direct bearing on the outcome of the game…..such as a player in the game who was ineligible, players found to have taken performance enhancing drugs, “dirty” playing, etc. If somebody gives some clothes to a player who shouldn’t accept them, but it was an infraction outside of an actual game……then punish that person and/or the player but not the entire team and school. If it was covered up by the school administration or coach……then think of a way to punish them without it affecting the other innocent kids on the team who have worked their hearts out for years for their accomplishments. Sure……fine the school $100,000 for an infraction worth $312………seems about right for the NCAA doesn’t it???
wes durham's gigantic bottom
July 15th, 2011
1:26 pm
hey Goldwreck…if Thomas had not played in 2009, he also would not have scored on the 70yd TD run after catching a hitch route and burning Vance Cuff….remember, Caleb King had his career highlight run after that….GT would not have won without Thomas….GT cheated and still lost….accept it.
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
1:44 pm
Pryor says what Bedford wrote.
JonRann
July 15th, 2011
1:45 pm
Simple. Tech has demonstrated unethical behavior in myriad ways, for years. After this debacle, the coach and “Bud” should both be fired and blacklisted.
The Taskmaster
July 15th, 2011
1:45 pm
Radakovich said ““The lesson learned from all of this is that when you get that inquiry, the initial phone call is to bring in someone like a Chuck Smrt [a former NCAA investigator who now counsels those being investigated and who was retained by Tech] … someone who is skilled in that kind of forum. You need a different set of eyes. As good as any university attorney is, this is not their forte.”
That is deeply disturbing to hear from the AD. He should have said “The lesson learned from all of this is to follow the rules at all times and this kind of thing will not happen. We are sorry and apologize. We will not let thiskind of thing happen again.”
It sounds like Peterson and Radakovich are still trying to manipulate the truth to the perception they are trying to sell and to their shame the players are following suit. Students learn what they are taught.
Tech has always acted like they were better than everyone else and apparently they now believe their own lies including the one about they do not have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
Pride comes before the fall.
GT HFC Bill Curry Circa 1985
July 15th, 2011
1:50 pm
We will bring the cheaters to their knees. Whoops it us – again!
WnE...
July 15th, 2011
2:01 pm
I love the spin that we GT fans use. Although we have 3 majors as defined by the NCAA, we’re really not cheating like the “factories” are. Is it our overall record (W’s – L’s) that make us think that way? After all,the REAL cheaters (Auburn, OSU, etc.) play for national championships and we don’t, therefore our sins somehow MUST be lesser,right? Is this the rationale? In my mind, 3 repeats, even of different flavors, constitute a trend. I would imagine that thre are many schools with 0 during the same period.
Wreckbuzz
July 15th, 2011
2:03 pm
I guarantee you that the administration and athletic departments at GT take these punishments way more hard than USC did theirs, because of the integrity hit. USC could care less about the PR hit. They care only about how it affects their on field product. At GT they care that their integrity has been called into question.
As for the supposed infraction, I think it’s bullsh*t. The NCAA is posturing for future schools to make sure everybody complies with every request. Do you honestly think Auburn has answered every question and request from the NCAA? Of course not, because they know the price of complying will be on par with USC. But by slamming the integrity of a school like GT the NCAA is sending a message that not responding exactly as requested can be punished just as easily as committing an infraction in the first place.
GTBrad
July 15th, 2011
2:03 pm
@Taskmaster, the president and AD both thought that they WERE following the rules. They held an institutional counsel about the issue and numerous people (including the ACC) told them that the players were not in violation. Watch the press conf. vids. And what’s really ridiculous is that the NCAA ended up declaring that indeed both players were not in violation after the fact, so this whole retarded investigation never should have been started in the first place. If they don’t see the players doing anything wrong (they definitely did not since the gifts were permissible) why would they keep them off the field??? Absolutely the only thing that went wrong was DRad telling Paul Johnson (who told Burnett) about the interview, but PJ explained numerous times that he stressed to Burnett to make sure he tells the truth. The NCAA are full of a bunch of unreasonable, money grubbing pricks.
superDawg
July 15th, 2011
2:06 pm
boo hoo!NUFF SAID macriod.
GTBrad
July 15th, 2011
2:07 pm
@Taskmaster, the president and AD both thought that they WERE following the rules. They held an institutional counsel about the issue and numerous people (including the ACC) told them that the players were not in violation. Watch the press conf. vids. And what’s really ridiculous is that the NCAA ended up declaring that indeed both players were not in violation after the fact, so this whole retarded investigation never should have been started in the first place. If they don’t see the players doing anything wrong (they definitely did not since the gifts were permissible) why would they keep them off the field??? Absolutely the only thing that went wrong was DRad telling Paul Johnson (who told Burnett) about the interview, but PJ explained numerous times that he stressed to Burnett to make sure he tells the truth. The NCAA are full of a bunch of unreasonable, money grubbing pricks…
GIVE ME A BREAK
July 15th, 2011
2:07 pm
Most people know the NCAA is way out of line on this. Tech is not damaged at all. NCAA only looks more foolish.
Stinger2
July 15th, 2011
2:07 pm
Jeff: How many more blogs about this from you and other AJC writers. Unless there are new developments that are
newsworthy, find something else to blog about. This could have been said yesterday in your first post. By writing multiple stories, you are just givving UGA fans some more to crow about. Everyone knew yesterday that DRAD is not going to be fired over this incident.
Jacket Man
July 15th, 2011
2:16 pm
Between the NCAA and GA Tech, over $100,000 was spent handling a $350.00 misunderstanding. Something’s terribly wrong with this equation. At some point, the NCAA has to realize there’s an economy of scale in what they’re doing, especially in this economy. It’s time to stop the witch hunts.
Atlantawolf
July 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
Wonder what will happen to UNC in light of all of the major infractions?
ClinchCountyDawg
July 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
Buckeye
Down here in Homerville, we don’t criticize other folks livestock. Deion can’t help if his cows are a little on the peaked side. Hot weather and drought have probably hurt his pastures.
Charlies Hayes
July 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
Paul Johnson will never win another ACC trophy. He better take some photos of the one he has now before they come get it….Everyone is up on the option now (we havent seen it since high school) and GT will not win.
What’s that coming down the track….Big machine that’s red and black….Nothin finner in the land than watching a GT crying fan! Go Dawgs!
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
2:42 pm
Clinch,
My main Dilly Bar man. Sup, Dude?
Charlies Hayes
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
Jacket Man – Did you read the report? It is not the shirt or money that was received in which created the major problem. It was the fact that GT didn’t report the issues when they knew about them. GT didn’t self displine the two kids that casued the violations……If GT would have sat the two kids out of the final three games that season then the title would still be yours…..
Two Words
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
Two words for Dawgtards: red panties.
Okay, two more: Jan Kemp.
Sorry, only two more: Jim Harrick.
Bee Hive
July 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
Paul Johnson told us it’s OK to smack any NCAA employee in the head.
Seems it’s his answer to everything that disappoints
Two Words
July 15th, 2011
2:54 pm
I knew the, oh so fresh, Jan Kemp comment would sting. After all I’ve been beating this dead horse every single day for the past 30 years (though Jan has been dead only 3 years). Can’t imagine why Dawg fans are cracking on us now….
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
2:56 pm
Two Words,
Here are a few more for you……………..
King Ealey
Six Seven
Nineteen Eighty
Inferiority Complex
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
2:58 pm
Two Words,
Ok, one ( okay two) more
Red Neck
Kelly Hall
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
3:00 pm
Can’t help myself…………..
Gym Dog
Ladies Softball
Time Out!
GIVE ME A BREAK
July 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
Keep the trophy. At least it wasn’t a DOUBLE DAWG PENALTY. ” GO JACKETS “
AU
July 15th, 2011
3:07 pm
when will auburn’s crooked program be exposed and stripped of the title for all their payoffs and coverups?
gdawginkalamazoo
July 15th, 2011
3:10 pm
Well I guess I am glad that we went 6-7 last year and had AJ sit out 4 games.
Tough one Tech. I hate to see what they do to Ohio State now. And UNC. Can’t ignore the door when the NCAA comes knocking.
Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
3:29 pm
Kalamzoo,
The players are already delt with at Ohio State. The violations unresolved involve ony Tressel. Tressel is the only name in the complaint. He’s tostado, we’ve vacated ( whopdy do) 2011. Ohio State is on national/prime time tv at least three time already. We shall see.
Tech is not on the national stage. No one gives a rats. It only shows the stupdity (again) of the NCAA and the rules.
juvenal
July 15th, 2011
3:47 pm
any body know where nordin went to school?
Friedrich Nietzsche
July 15th, 2011
4:02 pm
“That which does not kill us makes us stronger”
We will be fine. Just a bump in the road. We’ve learned from it now it is time to put it behind us and move forward into the 2011 season.
Go Jackets!
Hoopster
July 15th, 2011
4:26 pm
Charlie Hayes, there was no reason to sit them. The NCAA found no reason to declare them ineligible. The NCAA admitted there was no eligibility issues!!!!!
George P. Burdell
July 15th, 2011
4:57 pm
Jeff:
Cannot really disagree with much of what you said and I think Number 3 is the real key. If I am one of the major violators, this ruling would make me very worried. If the NCAA see to it to give a weak punishment compared to what Tech got, it will destroy any remaining credibility they have. They have probably numbered their days anyway but that would hasten the process.
dagnabit
July 15th, 2011
5:37 pm
Big Macon dawg is totally correct.
tell me again
July 15th, 2011
5:48 pm
I despise the Techies, but they got totally hosed on this one………….a few hundred bucks and some hanky panky deserves some kind of punishment but what they are handing out for this infraction is hysterically overboard. The NCAA proves once again they have no clue as to what they are doing.
Seth Bagwell
July 15th, 2011
5:51 pm
I dont see where all the dumb UGA fans get off that tech cheated in some way. Because look at the facts. If you all could actually read the article you would see that the reason Tech is getting punished is because one of our players received clothes. Clothes for gods sake. and the only reason we have to vacate the wins is because we thought we would be able to play these players in the games because we didnt think receiving clothes from a cousin was a bad thing. and we didnt make it easy for the the high and mighty NCAA to do their “investigation.” Why are all UGA fans idiots? If you all took time to read the article and really see whats going on then you can see we didnt really cheat. and lets not forget all the problems UGA football has had these past couple of years. How many players did you guys have that got arrested? And how about Aj violating rules he was actually making money not just receiving clothes. So please before you comment on an article or a post, please read it so you dont look so stupid in the future.
@seth
July 15th, 2011
7:03 pm
UGA was smart enough to allow AJ to play until issue was resolved .AJ repaid the money from selling his own property. Yes Tech did break the rules(read the Ncaa finding) all they had to do was be intelligent instead of arrogant.
@seth
July 15th, 2011
7:07 pm
not to allow AJ to play
@seth
July 15th, 2011
7:09 pm
Perhaps you should read the article.
Repeating: It’s an oversimplification to say Tech lost the ACC title because one player allegedly received $312 worth of clothing.
DAWG
July 15th, 2011
7:10 pm
Seth, sweetie. Let’s hope Tech has learned a lesson in being humble. The NCAA is kind of like the IRS. When they knock on your door, you would be wise to become very humble and cooperative. Not saying Tech cheated, just wasn’t handled very well. Maybe we could loan you some folks from our law school.
@Buckeye
July 15th, 2011
7:52 pm
For someone who professes to be annoyed by us southerners, you sure do spend a lot of time on our blogs, reading our opinions. Methinks someone else has a bit of an inferiority complex, albeit one that has nothing to do with their school/team.
Seth Bagwell
July 15th, 2011
8:24 pm
Dawg im not talking about people like you im talking about the idiots that are all about UGA and when tech has something bad happen to them they think its the greatest thing in the world and they have to comment on it like they were the ones that caused it. And @seth i understand thats an oversimplification im not stupid and i did read the article. I know we didnt cooperate to the thieves that make up the NCAA. To be honest this whole system is screwed up. I mean how are we going to be able to tell kids dont take money from a guy when they are 19 and 20 years old and dont have any money! ITs just ridiculous. And now because of this when other people look back on the history books Tech wont be the winners of the ACC champions when they down right earned it. They either need to band agents all together or they need to look at these messed up rules. Something needs to happen. How are you going to tell a team they didnt win a championship after all their hard work? honestly the NCAA disgust me.
Bull Meacham
July 15th, 2011
8:52 pm
Jeff. Wrong on lumping Carolina in with Ohio St and Oregon. UNC has cooperated fully and suspended or dismissed involved players. Remember last season when they could barely fill out the roster for the opener vs. LSU?
mrb
July 15th, 2011
9:27 pm
I only have one question for all of you Dawg fans….if the whole AJ Green thing had come down three weeks before the SEC Championship, how would you feel if your AD had sat AJ for possibly “benefiting”, but not for sure mind you, to the tune of a couple hundred dollars and perhaps, but not for sure, mind you, making himself ineligible? Thought so.
Dirty Harry
July 15th, 2011
10:42 pm
How can you damage something that’s as mediocre as Tech’s football program?
DAWG
July 15th, 2011
11:07 pm
mrb, maybe you don’t understand what a true Dawg is about…..in that situation we would NOT have wanted AJ to play. See, we understand integrity and the consequences of not having integrity.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 15th, 2011
11:15 pm
Mrb,
Your AD and coach took a gamble and lost. They played the player not knowing if he was eligible or not, but knowing he was being investigated. A. J. was held out of four games, but he was not allowed to play by UGA until the penalty was known. It doesn’t matter if it was $312.00 or a thousand. They took the chance and it cost you the ACC championship. You still have the money from that game, so it really only cost you a game. Your school still knows that they beat Clemson that day. Would have sitting that player until you had the go ahead from the NCAA have cost you that game? I don’t think so.
BS Patrol
July 15th, 2011
11:54 pm
Yeah,right, Dawg.Give us a break, will you?
Tech Man
July 16th, 2011
12:35 am
They didn’t put uga on probation after the Jersey selling accident!!!!!
Tech Man
July 16th, 2011
12:39 am
This should be appealed and resolved in Techs favor. I have heard a lot worse than this over the years!!!
Tech Man
July 16th, 2011
12:42 am
Dawg…..How do you know what happen in the AJ situation, were you on the field hearing all the inside stories?
Coach Grohbo
July 16th, 2011
12:44 am
You’re right Jeff. $312 and no real sanctions going forward. Non-story.
So we can’t advertise one of our wins over Clemson in 2009? Ooooh. That’s a killer.
Time to dig deeper on the T H U G A players whining and quitting over finally having to do a little off-season work.
Looks like T H U G A’s coaching staff will have to go back to playing in the pool and dancing on the mats before they lose what few players they have left.
Score Check
July 16th, 2011
5:38 am
I see a pattern developing here. gt is caught lying and cheating (again) and their response is to deny any wrong doing.
This case provides a cautionary tale of conduct that member institutions should avoid while under investigation for violations of NCAA rules.” It said Tech’s previous history of violations factored into its punishment decisions. After receiving penalties for the 2005 and ‘06 seasons for infractions that occurred in the 1990s, the NCAA said that if Tech committed another major infraction before Nov. 17, 2010, it would be subject to added penalties as a repeat violator.
SMITTYSTHEMAN
July 16th, 2011
6:31 am
Keep your head up DRad. Still not as bad as getting caught with red panties in you lap.
juvenal
July 16th, 2011
6:59 am
Jeff, osu was not penalized for the games dez played before he was suspended…do you even read your own blog, or am i wasting my time?
Buzz 2011
July 16th, 2011
7:49 am
We will be ready to kick some Dawg in Atlanta this year.. Feel it coming Dogs?/////////
Buzz 2011
July 16th, 2011
7:53 am
Dawg says” We understand integrity”" ..What a joke… 12 players working out of Clarke county jail and an AD ( Adams) using red panties for a crying towel…Biggest bums in the SEC..That is the essence of integrity.. 5 wins for the Dawgs and GT won’t be one of your five terds.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 16th, 2011
8:08 am
Tech Man,
UGA self reported the violation and did not allow A. J. Green to play in any games until the matter was resolved. It was resolved by the second game by the NCAA, which gave A. J. Green a 4 game suspension which he served. The problem is tect. Didn’t do that, and the NCAA thinks that Tech. tried to hinder the investigation. Your AD was caught between a rock and a hard spot, so he gambled on the results and they did not come out in his favor. They might be able to appeal and get some reduction in the monetary fund, but I will bet they will not get the ACC title back.
Just the facts, ma'am
July 16th, 2011
8:15 am
A few facts that the dawgtard homers might consider:
1. UGA is the nation’s #1 party school. That means that UGA has the highest number of drunks on campus of all the colleges and universities in the U.S. These drunks keep the Athens-Clarke County jail full, and provide full employment to law enforcement personnel, bail bondsmen, and attorneys. Really something to be proud of, isn’t it.
2. UGA athletes are some of the most illiterate morons in the country. Most of them take remedial studies, which is the stuff that most kids learn by the seventh grade. But not your dummies, who you laughingly call student-athletes. The very few who actually graduate have worthless diplomas in worthless studies that no employer is looking for.
3. Even your fans are trashy, stupid drunks. Take a look at what your campus looks like after a home game, and check the number of DUIs the police issue between Athens and Atlanta after a game.
4. Your athletes must think that ankle monitoring bracelets are bling, they see so many of them in the locker room.
A really miserable, sorry place, and a huge embarrassment to all Georgians.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 16th, 2011
8:22 am
It is childish behavior to point to other schools and make negative comments about them to deflect the blame where it really belongs. Your AD made some mistakes, it appears his Lawyers weren’t up to the task and he took a calculated risk. Guess his calculations were a little off, and you have to pay the piper. UGA, Auburn, THE OSU or any other school is not responsible for what happened. To compare other schools awaiting their penalties with tech. is a waste of time and a useless exercise in futility. Just move on and get ready for the next season.
Paul N Destin
July 16th, 2011
8:27 am
The NCAA doesn’t request the school to not play the player!!! They dicuss the issue and the school has to make the call to play or pull the player!!! AU did this same thing with Cam when they told the NCAA and the SEC to feckoff last fall. Where did your compliance guy go that was apart of this decision? Too Funny to believe.
Footballrules
July 16th, 2011
9:02 am
I just hope that Tech isn’t being made the Chirst figure, and OSU & UN-Cheat walk free. (Oregon? Auburn?). The NCAA is acting like Nazi Party bureaucrats in Munich in 1933….they have to LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING in order to please Der Furher.
Jason
July 16th, 2011
9:13 am
If Dem Thomas returned the stupid clothes, then how can you get on probation. This sounds all too much like our inept gov’t. A fine is all that is necessary. You don’t get probation if you didn’t break the rules. tech didn’t. Appeal this bs and you will be successful.
bradley
July 16th, 2011
9:14 am
yeah because there’s such a huge black market for clothes. lol right. what’s he gonna do. give them to goodwill and get a tax writeoff. that’s besides the point. gt has the clothes and they still have the tags on them .
Jones
July 16th, 2011
9:20 am
Losing the 2009 trophy- isn’t that kind of like doing a great looking blonde who you thought was the homecoming queen only to find out she lied and was the runner up. It was still good.
Mike
July 16th, 2011
9:52 am
uga didn’t self report anything w regards to aj. news got out that the ncaa was investigsating a party in miami. they looked into it and into aj. at that time the season was about to start. uga had a choice. play him and risk the game being forfitted or sit him out until the investigation is over. the chose the latter. the ? is when did tech become aware of these stupid clothes to dt. i still don’t know how someone finds out about some freaking clothes. i get it if it’s a pair of $500 shoes. but from what i’ve read, this wasn’t the case.
GT
July 16th, 2011
10:06 am
Tech’s real crime is tying up NCAA investigators that need to be somewhere else. They probably pick on Tech because it is one of the few places they feel safe doing their work. Just make sure you are off Tech’s campus by dark. Second thought why don’t we have a night meeting down at Tech with the NCAA and a little mugging afterwards.
Mark My Abs
July 16th, 2011
10:14 am
We’d like to go up to the NCAA offices and “vacate” the occupants’ dentures. But being genteel Tech fans, we won’t do that.
GT/GS
July 16th, 2011
10:21 am
DANG DAWGS Done it again, couldn’t keep it quite about Thomas buying Greens jersey.
Freddy
July 16th, 2011
11:25 am
Thomas never got the clothes..they’re in GT office and NCAA knows that. Thomas turn them in. One persons opinion against anothers only ncaa rules in there own interest.
NCAA is self rule Mafia..give me the power and money.
Real American
July 16th, 2011
11:31 am
Nazis and liberals everywhere. This country is really starting to $uck.
P. Bull Terrier
July 16th, 2011
12:15 pm
Jones @ 9:20 am
“Losing the 2009 trophy- isn’t that kind of like doing a great looking blonde who you thought was the homecoming queen only to find out she lied and was the runner up. It was still good.”
No. It’s more like doing a great looking blonde who you thought was the homecoming queen only to wake up and find out it never happened.
GT Fan ...
July 16th, 2011
12:32 pm
P.Bull Terrier,
What you are describing is called, in a word, a DREAM. What Jones is describing is a scenario based on a FACT that actually happened…GT beat Clemson in the 2009 ACC Championship game.
So wake up PBT, apparently you are still dreaming.
Confused
July 16th, 2011
12:51 pm
I read the comments. PJ says he played the players b/c the people involved in the interviews/investigation told him the player(s) were “eligible” to play.
So I’m confused as to how so many folks in this, and many other blogs, have determined PJ’s actions to be lying & cheating?
Did DRAD & Peterson say “we THINK they are eligible” … don’t think so.
I guess the mudslingers are just bitter fans. Or are they actually bitter human beings…seeing it makes them feel better about themselves/situations is something bad/negative happens to someone else?
Well the facts moving forward are GT doesn’t lose anything in the present and future. If they win 6+ in 2011, and seasons beyoned, they will be headed to bowl games. Not sure how many scholarships they have open for 2012 & beyond, but they still have ALL of them.
It’s obvious, to the logical/intelligent thinkers, that what the NCAA has done here is either absurd or way overboard.
It’ll be interesting to see what the NCAA deems as punishment for the other programs under their current watch…
ztm
July 16th, 2011
1:24 pm
I am not sure where to post this but its addressed to ajc ….when you get a chance would you mind removing the thrashers from your sports news options….theres no more thrashers,there gone, I saw the moving trucks,Iam pretty sure there not coming back,,but kudos on not having a flames option…sorry still a little bitter….Tech fans look on the bright side,,the john koncak of coaching is no longer banking in atlanta
Reuban Houston
July 16th, 2011
1:52 pm
Anyone know where I can score 100 pounds of weed?
Me and Reggie was the man at Tech when we was there.
G CHIZIK
July 16th, 2011
1:55 pm
Pretty harsh for $312.
We’ve got the NCAA in our back pocket, but this still gives me a shiver.
Greenhulk
July 16th, 2011
4:11 pm
The ACC gave Tech no support. I bet North Carolina gets a way clean because that is the ACC poster child. Tech needs to return to the SEC and dump the NCC (North Carolina Conference).
No longer 9 of 10
July 16th, 2011
4:14 pm
One thing that seems to have escaped everybody’s notice here, although maybe the dawg fans are just ignoring it, is that the final 3 games of 2009 were VACATED. That means, win or lose, they were “never played.” So that means that the dawgs did not beat the Jackets in 2009. Pretty small consolation, but still…….
BG
July 16th, 2011
4:21 pm
Jeff, Tech cheated!
Mack
July 16th, 2011
4:24 pm
You could have reduced the title of this article by say: GT’s future is limited!
Jones
July 16th, 2011
6:04 pm
P. Bull Terrier @12:!5
No. It’s more like doing a great looking blonde who you thought was the homecoming queen only to wake up and find out it never happened
Actually P. Bull you would have had done a great looking blonde in your life to speak with any authority. Go back to ol’ lefty and your dreams.
Footballrules
July 16th, 2011
6:05 pm
BG….Tech cheated? Well, not nearly ENOUGH to get an invite to return to the SEC.
TECHREDNECK
July 16th, 2011
6:15 pm
Its all so silly and stupid. A. J. did not realize he was doing anything wrong. $312.00 of clothing. Give me a break. But as someone posted earlier a rule is a rule and I’m sure the rule does not specify any amount. Alot of fans care more about their football team than their family.I just am not impressed with GA. Tech or UGA this fall.
Jacket Man
July 16th, 2011
6:53 pm
As anyone who takes the time to read the final verdicts will read, as GA Tech claimed from the beginning, neither accused player was found to have violated any NCAA rules and there was NO need to have withheld either of them as the fruitless NCAA witch hunt went forward.
As GA Tech tried to explain to the “investigator,” suspending the players over such frivolous claims was unreasonable to the rest of the team which had worked so hard to try to win the ACC Chamionship and have a chance to play in the Orange Bowl. They also tried to explain they weren’t trying to be argumentative, but logical, reasonable, and fair.
Obviously the NCAA “investigator” didn’t like being called on his stupidity because the rest is history. Did GA Tech make mistakes in this matter? Sure. Did those mistakes warrant the results the innocent players have had piled on them by these childish adults? I think not…
Technophobia
July 16th, 2011
10:51 pm
“That said, there obviously are MUCH worse things going on in college athletics right now, and if the NCAA doesn’t slam programs Ohio State, Oregon and North Carolina for infractions far more blatant than what Tech did, something is wrong.”
No shift Sherlock, but are you actually naive enough to think they will????
The NCAA was pretty accurately portrayed by South Park.
sports
July 17th, 2011
12:41 am
when dis blows over, dey will start their scheming agin..dey be’s just that arrogant.
Chris
July 17th, 2011
12:56 am
What about any shame for playing players that were not eligible? What about integrity? What about reputation? Suddenly it is just about winning the game anyway, shouldn’t hurt our chances for winning in the future, we bagged the Orange Bowl already, everybody’s doing worse things. Tech cheated and got caught. It cost them a championship and will forever remove their ability to throw stones at others, something Tech WAS very good at. If they were playing Western CArolina, Duke and Georgia State the last three games, they would have sat those players. They knew it was a big deal that is why the had already banned the former players in question from campus. But they couldn’t make themselves give up a chance to beat UGA, Clemson for the title, and Iowa.
Bigger fish to fry
July 17th, 2011
6:03 am
A lot of wasted time concerning $312.00 worth of t-shirts.
Dubvee
July 17th, 2011
6:24 am
We need Bobby Dodd back. A friend of mine who played for Dodd used to tell of the speaches he made to his teams — and what would happen if anyone ever disgraced the name of Georgia Tech. Dodd would get so emotional about it that the veins would pop out on his neck when he talked. With his ethics and love of Georgia Tech, this never would have happened. We need to get back to the values that made Tech great.
Thomas Brown
July 17th, 2011
7:26 am
MORE FALL-OUT is most assuredly LIKELY.
Georgia tek STILL TODAY is defiant and compative toward the NCAA, rather than taking the right steps to insure that your AD doesn’t tell PAUL JOHNSON and interview the 2 top players of 2009 of that which they should and should not say in the NCAA investigation.
Bedford doesn’t get it. Perhaps because no college offered him a scholarship. None. Now, he is in another country playing football in Spain. Bedford says pry it from my finger, regarding the ACC Championship Game ring. Bedford offers to repay the NCAA $312 to keep his ring. And, he says that the NCAA is wrong making such a mountain out of a mole hill of $312.
Mr. Bedford sir, a guy out of Gainesville, Florida : The NCAA put tek on PROBATION and REPEAT VIOLATOR because tek covered up and still tries to cover up what happened. Thus, PROBATION and thus your ring is meaningless. Keep it or not, tek cannot publish on the Internet and the NCAA cannot have pages that reflect that you won the ACC Championship Game. And, Paul Johnson cannot count the win in his total. Get it ? You lied and covered-up. Had you not the $312 would not have been an issue. Not at all. It cost your basketball program too.
Take it back up with The NCAA and expect The NCAA to come down real hard on Georgia tek and PAUL JOHNSON and your AD. You didn’t do it right. Compound the issue and appeal and it will be VERY UGLY for Georgia tek.
Bubba from the mall
July 17th, 2011
10:07 am
OK let’s clear thing’s up. It was me – I sold the cloths to an agent who gave them to a runner who gave them to someone else who gave them to a GT football player.
Stop whining about Auburn, OSU, N.C., Oregon etc. the hammer is still being raised and when it drops all of college football will say WTF and then smile.
Auburn = MAJOR SANCTIONS. Vacated games, vacated NC, loss of scholarships (at least 20 over 4 years), 10 year probation, $250,000 fine (possibly more), recruiting restrictions (no official visits).
OUS = Major sanctions. Vacated games (already self imposed), loss of scholarships (at least 10 over 4 years), 5 year probation, $250,000 fine, recruiting restrictions (no off campus visits).
N.C. = Major reprimand, 2 year probation.
Oregon = Give me a little more time.
Bubba from the mall
July 17th, 2011
10:08 am
Oops Not OUS – OSU
headley lamar
July 17th, 2011
11:16 am
One thing is for sure
Tech is now officially one of the dirtiest programs in college football
Two major violations in ten years
bk
July 17th, 2011
11:22 am
Why is it that you and the ajc missed this story until it broke? You seem to jump all over the negative stories of other schools even if they are minor violations. You also seem to hold some coaches to a higher standard than Johnson. I have my own opinion but would love to hear yours.
Tech Engineer
July 17th, 2011
11:39 am
DRad should have cooperated with the NCAA fully. Tech folks want a program beyond reproach. DRad doesn’t get it, as came from the SEC. He needs to GO!
still wondering
July 17th, 2011
11:53 am
Why does BuLL use another name?
Tech Forever
July 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
MARK MY WORDS!!!! Nothing will come from the Auburn situation, Ohio State will be deemd as “having suffered enough”, Oregon and UNC will get light slaps on the wrist.
It is the job of the NCAA to make blatant examples of the Georgia Techs, Baylors, Mississippi States, and Boise States of the college athletics word, i.e. non-cash cow programs.
FOR ONCE I’d like to see a report actually cover the news, do a little investigating, and bring these issues and facts to the doorstep of the NCAA ADN CALL THEM OUT on their hypocracy.
gt4ever
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
This is ALL so ABSURD!
Same old story
July 18th, 2011
8:52 am
11 young years into a new century and Yech as to yet again vacate wins? When will the NCAA dismantle one of dirtiest, if not the dirtiest, programs in the country?
Yech continues to humiliate the fine state of Georgia again and again.
Same old story
July 18th, 2011
8:52 am
11 young years into a new century and Yech as to yet again vacate wins? When will the NCAA dismantle one of dirtiest, if not the dirtiest, programs in the country?
Yech continues to humiliate the fine state of Georgia again and again.
The Truth
July 18th, 2011
12:44 pm
Jeff
Where was the AJC while all of this investigation was ongoing? The two beat writers were so busy being cheerleaders they failed to do their job. Had they been filing Open Records requests this story would not have been a “SURPRISE”. The AJC never fails to file Open Records requests with the Georgia Athletic Dept however for year’s the AJC has acted in concert with GT to “HIDE” the facts and what is taking place.
In addition to the embarrassment at Tech there should be equal embarassment within the Sports staff at the AJC for failure to do your job. When beat writers are busy cheering every move of an athletic dept there is a problem. Hopefully in the future the two guys who cover GT can trade in their cheerleader skirts and pom-poms for some big boy journalist clothes and do their job.
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2:17 pm
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