Punishment severe, but Georgia Tech made its own mess

Attaboy, ole Jacket Shultz. About time you saw the light. Cheaters.

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Oh my. Clothes! The horror. The ncaa is a joke

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I normally agree with you Schultzie, but this time you are a little bit off. Did GT make a mistake? Yeah, possibly. But even that is in debate. Nothing seems right in this, and to say the punishment we took is not fair

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From ESPN:

“A source told ESPN’s Joe Schad that as part of the case, the NCAA investigated the relationship between former Georgia Tech quarterback Calvin Booker, who is alleged to have worked for a sports agent, and wide receiver Demaryius Thomas, now of the Denver Broncos.

“The source said Thomas received $312 worth of clothing from the friend of a sports agency employee. Thomas was used in the final three games of that season, including the ACC title game and the Orange Bowl.”

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Wait until people see the light about their engineering program too

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I’m about to cancel my subscription to the AJC after Bradley’s and Schultz’s commentaries. There is a huge difference between deciding to sit out a player for the first game and having to decide whether to sit out players during the three biggest games of the season. The NCAA is ridiculous.

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So an AD is not allowed to inform members of his department that an investigation is coming? Why tell him at all?

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Someone allegedly received some clothes from perhaps his cousin or his cousin’s friend. The punishment will be reduced upon appeal, as the NCAA has little evidence to back up its own case. Then again, the same NCAA that got PO’ed at how Tech handled the investigation is the same NCAA that will ultimately decide the merit of any appeal. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too.

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Tech admin and fans are so arrogant they refuse to take responsibility. “It isn’t fair”. Sounds like some grade school kid. It was that attitude that got them in trouble and they still refuse to be accountable. As bad as UGA has been, at least they take their medicine.

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Georgia sits A.J. Green and the NCAA, in effect, trashes its season. I’ve often wondered why Edward Tolley didn’t tell A.J. to plead the fifth when they asked for his bank records. I guess that would have landed the Dawgs in the NCAA doghouse. Tech rolls the dice with Thomas and Burnett and gets a lost trophy that everybody knows it won and a $100,000 fine. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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So tech was put on probation for being tech, stupid and arrogant.

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Just One Thing: well said. Very well said.

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Schultz you are a bigger loser then the ugag fan base. It just made your day for bt his to happen to Tech huh? We’ll show losers like you when this season starts. To hell with (ugay) and schultz!!!!!!

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You can’t spell CHEaT without TECH.

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Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. They should have employed the Sergeant Schultz [no relation] defense: “I know nothing . . . nothing!”

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Is DR. fever out there , charley king………..

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You would think with the punishment handed down that the NCAA believes Tech intentionally cheated. There is no evidence that is true, or even a suggestion of it. Tech was sloppy, just like they were 10 years ago. This is ridiculous. They should be punished, but it shouldn’t even approach this level. This is a football factory punishment, and Tech clearly isn’t a football factory.

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Its too bad Jeff has such a personal vendetta against Tech. Maybe people would take his blather more seriously if he could ever be objective.

The easy thing to do is ‘pile on.’ And Jeff is known for doing whatever is easist.

Never mind the inconsistency and hypocracy of the NCAA. No story there I guess…Unless of course the mutts get in trouble.

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@Delbert,

Funny you should mention prosecuting agents. The State of North Carolina was investigating Gary Wichard, the agent involved in the NCAA infractions (there is a state law against what he was alleged to have done), but the investigation is now moot. It is tough to prosecute a dead man.

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Bite me Glenn you dumbazz. The dirtiest program in the ACC strikes again.

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I don’t think Johnson last/survives after this season.

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Darn.. Tech does lie and cheat… I wonder what Bill Curry thinks of this?

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Paul in RDU – Organized crime hit?

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Schultz, there is a reason Peterson and Raddy are where they are just as there is a reason you are where you are. I can assure you they have more of a handle on these matters than you do on your writings!

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I often wonder how such transactions (giving away a garment) ever came to the attention of the ncaa. Who blabbed?

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By my calculations, our 1st round receiver is ahead of ya’lls 1st round receiver by about 685 bucks. Now who’s smarter?

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To the Lady who use to write all that dribble on the UGA blogs about the Integraty of Tech and it’s program, well all that’s left to say is WHOOP THERE IT IS

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Hey Mr. AD,
You can’t blame this one on Mike Stamus. Try looking in the mirror…

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Shultz you are such a jerk. $312 is worth vacating an ACC title? Really? That’s your stance? The NCAA rules on something of this (light) magnitude are asinine at best. It will be appealed and you will eat your stupid words. Jerk.

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If you read the actual report the NCAA released, their description of the cover up is a pathetic reach. The NCAA has realized that they have very little power and in an attempt to get it back they are dropping the hammer on every little thing.

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For all you tech fans that get ecstatic every time a 18 yr old uga player forgets to pay a parking ticket…there is no comparison. Go Dogs!

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I heard Caleb King is An 2011 SEC academic all-American scholar!!!!!

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Jeff … I recommend closing the Comments Section.

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http://georgiatech.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1240453

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The NCAA is a joke or crooked one. Seems like they attack the smallest infractions yet overlook the big money schools that have illiterate atheletes. Someone should investigate the NCAA. Wonder how much money is passed under their table.

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Delbert D. hit the nail on the head. A friend/former teammate of the players was hanginging withe the guys in Atlanta (this is his home town) after he had already graduated and left the program, and as far as they knew, he was giving them a couple of gifts from himself; no knowledge of any affiation with an agent.

As soon as everyone discovered Calvin had actually become employed by an agent and made contact with the Tech players, the items were immediately returned and no further contact was made with Calivn…no direct contact was ever made with any agent.

Again, the value of the items was approximately $350.00; less than the cost of a nice wristwatch.

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The NCAA needs to pass a rule that when a student violates NCAA rules, the institution must sue the athlete for actual and consequential damages. Same rule for coaches.

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Dang NCAA guys really had their red panties in a wad, didn’t they?

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To those of you who are questioning the Engineering program at GA TECH, you’re just as stupid as any of these atheletes who accepted gifts or sold their jerseys. But, since you brought it up, why don’t you ignorant tools go look up the stats for the placement rate of the grads from GT’s engineering program into NASA…? I’m sure the tractors that will come out of UGA’s “engineering school” will be nice, too. But why argue with you brilliant minds who can’t even use the correct form of “their/there/they’re”…?

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These three (Peterson, Rad, and Johnson) clearly conspired to tamper with an NCAA investigation, they should be fined and fired, the only ones damaged by this sanction are the players and fans…. These three conspirators are still banking all the money, if Johnson is such a character guy he should give back all the bonuses and the salary bump, Drad should pay the $100k out of his own pocket, Peterson should take a 50% pay cut and clean the restrooms at BD after every game for the next four years, better yet all three should clean’em!!!!!

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In the NCAA news conference the NCAA kept referring to Tech as the University. Was he confusing Tech with the other University with the name of Georgia in it or like the report they failed to get there facts straight. Army, Navy and Air Force, Tech and Boston College are the schools in the NCAA without the word UNIVERSITY in the name.

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Say what you will about my Dawgs, but when AJ Green was being investigated for something similar, we sat him for four games, and it cost us – a lot. When Caleb King was unable to play due to grades, we let him go. Tech played their players and tried to cover up the problems. Techies, don’t lecture us about honor for a while until you clean up your own problems and stay clean. Cheating is wrong – whether you are playing football, D&D or World of Warcraft.

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When University Presidents and Athletic Directors (i.e., not just the coach) start getting fired when this stuff happens, then it will end..

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DRAD’s a bum. Two terrible hires and now this. Yikes…

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There are two or three classy Tech folk on here. Judge for yourself the rest.

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Maybe Tech Alumni will wake up and realize that their push to hire Dan Radakovich was a mistake. Dan will use Tech as a stepping stone to a bigger job. He doesn’t really care about Tech. Much of this is his doing… he blabbed when he should have had the integrity and discipline to keep his mouth shut. The penalty is actually more bark than bite, but it is embarrassing for anybody who graduated for Tech. We stand for much more than this. Dan’s legacy will be the following:

- a plan to improve athletic facilities that called for the Athletic Department to borrow enough money to choke a donkey.
- poor treatment of Danny Hall (the only perennial winning coach at Tech) and Wes Durham (an institution in his profession).
- letting Paul Hewitt hang around too long.
- hiring Paul Johnson (the jury is still out on this one).

If you have poor judgment on the NCAA issue, you will have poor judgment on other things. Many of these poor decisions are starting to smell….

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If that makes you feel good 1962 Dawg….

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We’re also claiming a moral victory for 2008.

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The NCAA’s War on Student Athletetes has much in common with the federal government’s War on Drugs. Neither has any reasonable expectation of ever being successful and are just a way of artificially providing unnecessary job security for worthless legislators and enforcement officials. A total joke.

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JB sleeps with a man every night!

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P.S. Tech gets stripped of an ACC title—(as we SEC fans all know, the ACC is the minor league of college football).

The UGA Bulldogs only wish that they can do anything other than blow Gamecocks every freaking year.

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It’s a hard pill to swallow, but Tech fans need to realize the athletic program deserves all the backlash it’s currently receiving. This is a disgrace, and some head might roll over this. So, I am going to take it like a man, and grow a tough skin for right now. However, I would remind the Bulldog Nation not to throw to many stones, you’ve got your own problems. As for the nerd jokes, they have long become old.

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That should say too many stones, sorry for the typo. My English skills are usually better than that.

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The comments by some of these Dawg fans on here really make them look like Jerry Springer rejects. It seems that some of you Dawgs are the ones who were actually cheated out of a 6th-grade education. I guess it just makes sense that you would be bitter.

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Nerd Jokes you say: Like flipping burgers, living in a trailer. UGA not a real college, Thugs, Super size my order mutt…………….Those kind of jokes people getting tired of. It cuts both ways.

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All I can say is that if this is the punishment for GT, then UNC and USC, and particularly Ohio State should get the death penalty.

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What’s funny is Thomas had 2 catches in the clemson game. One was for a td but hardly a big impact. Idiots should have sat him even though the rules are insane. Clothes? I can understand cars, jewelry, money. But clothes. And how do you even find out about clothes? Why not just give the freaking shirt and jeans to the players mom and dad and have them give it. This story is ridic on so many levels.

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“Maybe Georgie O’Leary can add this to his resume.”

Bet Coach Fishfry would trade it for O’Leary’s win over the Dawgs last season.

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Does tech have any recruits that are worth taking a 2nd look at? Especially offensive lineman?

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wrom go eff yourself. there wasn’t any arrogance. it’s clothes you dope. i don’t blame them for acting that way. and speaking of arrogance, your idiotic loser fan base is the epitome of arrogance and delusional behavior. every year you morons talk how this is the year. you have the second best recruiting class over the past decade and you haven’t even sniffed a nat champ game. talk about loserville. keep thinking and touting this is the year. perhaps once this century you will be right. 31 years and counting.

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Somebody left a pack of hanes whitey-tighties in my dorm at UNC. Is that reportable?

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After Boise State beat the dawgs 66 to 0, they will have something else to worry about.

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Boise playing Georgia, not Tech.

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@Greg.. Maybe you can beat UGA more than once this century. Nine out of ten and counting.

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This ought to move Tech in the top 5 I’d say.

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TheAntiMe………….The difference……….We don’t camp on a Gator blog and poke a stick at them everyday and pretend it doesn’t happen.

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Any de-commits announced yet?

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What’s with you GT folks hating on Schultz for doing his job. GT screwed up – Schultz put the facts out – Techies go ballistic. If you guys want to get angry call your AD or CPJ.

Oh yeah I’m not a big Schultz fan but I am a seeker of truth.

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This is absolutely laughable. The only way it could be any better is if the NCAA gave the ACC title to UNC. The Oregon “Phil Knight” Ducks and Auburn “Cam’s our man (for 240K)” Tigers are still the 2010 pac-10 and national champions respectively, and their coaches were both intimately involved in the dissemination of improper benefits several orders of magnitude greater than someone receiving 300 dollars in clothes (and then returning them from whence they came, which you failed to mention). Butch Davis is still employed and UNC hasn’t received any penalties, and he essentially knowingly employed an agent in a coaching position.

Schultz, you are a buffoon. You’re mortgaging your journalistic integrity for stirring the pot and generating page views… all signs that the AJC has been relegated to the fishwrap category of print news. The fact that some nebulous governing body is making an attempt to charge a state institution 100 thousand dollars (!) with a paper tiger argument should anger real journalists, and not at some kid who received and gave back 300 bucks worth of clothes, but at the idiots in suits running this sham. Shame on you.

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TheAntiMe………….The difference……….We don’t camp on a Gator blog and poke a stick at them everyday and pretend it doesn’t happen.

Really, JB? So this blog of Schultzie’s was actually about the Georgia Bulldogs and not about the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets? I guess I totally was confused about that by reading the headline “Punishment severe, but Georgia Tech made its own mess”.

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Paul in RDU,
If I embarassed my employer like that along with a $100,000 fine I’m sure I’d be told to hit the bricks. You can’t draw that type of salary and make those kinds of poor decisions. Not if you expect to remain employed.

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Schultz – moronic opinion. this is nothing more than the NCAA being the bully on the block – and being able to use the “GT example” as a scare tactic for other schools.

If there was anything to the NCAA case – the actual penalties would have been more severe. But instead – they ‘took away the trophies’ because they were pissed and had nothing on actual infractions.

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Did I hurt your little, Dawgie feelings, Spike? I suggest that you console yourself like bulldogs are famous for doing by licking your doo-dads.

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I think the only feeling hurt tonight are around North Ave.

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Tech gets slammed with probation and their fans want to insult UGA-pathetic losers

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John: Thinking you are the last to realize that

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“Note – the punishment is because of the attitude – not the infractions. The lesson here is – make sure you bend over and kiss a.. when the NCAA comes calling because they really don’t have to find anything to sanction your program.”

John,
You are 100% correct. If the admin didn’t know you can’t spit in the cops face then they deserve the sentence. EVERYONE knows you can’t snub your nose at the NCAA. Do we like it? No….but we all know it.

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Man, look at all the whiny excuses flying………it funny to see Techies show their true, pitiful colors.

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Seminole Backer: This wasn’t a cheating offense. It’s hardly a violation which got taken way to far. Demaryius Thomas recieved so called “improper benefits” ($312 worth of clothing which he payed back) and it should have been maybe a warning but Tech is being accused with not cooperating with the NCAA. The NCAA got defensive and issued a rediculous penalty. Go to ESPN or watch College Football Live instead of just AJC. Many people believe this a BS call from a flawed system. I will admit, though that it seems Tech could have easily avoided this.

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NCAA = Judge, jury and hangman.

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Tech is on probation…….bwaaahhaaaaa……I hope this wakes up all you GT Types who think you are somehow somehow better than the rest of the world of college athletics……your stuff smells too.

lmao – It’s amazing how some of you folks really have such an inferiority complex when it comes to Tech. (I’m not exactly sure why as I also pull for the Bulldogs and their fans really should have nothing to be ashamed of.) I believe that Sigmund Freud referred to this condition as Yellow Jacket Envy.

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John…………….John……………….Ask Paul what having that ACC title taken away means. It soiled him.

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Fire Radakovich and Johnson……cheaters……….Actually, $100,000.00 is a lot of money for the GT Athletic Dept considering they sell so few season tickets………GT cheated and still lost to UGA in 2009……….AntiMe, the only thing we feel inferior to GT men is in being unattractive……CPJ should return his bonus for winning the ACC……unless he already spent it on a triple chin and moob reduction surgery.

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Im a bulldog fan and i too would have to say that this is a little excess. How can you say it is only a 4 year probation and take away a title in o9. wouldnt that make it a 6 year penalty. The NCAA has got to be regulated by something. The control that they have and inconsistency of penalties is an absolute mess.

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JB – Actually looking forward to FSU getting back where they belong in BCS bowl games – maybe the ACC will win one if the ‘noles get it going (grew up an FSU fan). I’m just glad they didn’t take away the stolen fumble game – that one would have hurt…..

But – just like USC fans – I’m pretty sure the NCAA can’t take away the massively enjoyable time I had at the 2009 championship game – even if the outcome never happened.

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lol – Sure, Wes, whatever but you sure do sound kind of angry to me.

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D-Rad’s salary in 2010 was $600k ($300k from GT + $300k from GTAA).

http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/genrel/061908aaa.html

Let’s see what kind of mea culpa he performs and how much he gives back.

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NORRIS – you get it. It will be interesting to see how Ohio State is handled. The interference in the investigation there is off the chart compared to this case. Shouldn’t OSU almost get the death penalty?

My guess- OSU gets a pat on the back for ’self-imposed penalties’ and maybe a 1-yr post season ban for this year – when they will suck anyway and have no chance of making the post season.

Nebraska, South Carolina, UGA, GT on the other hand – get jerked around for small, reasonably benign infractions.

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Yeah but if it was UGA it would be no big deal right Schultz…Cause Isaiah Crowell is the da man now.

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… But a school whose title includes the words “Institute of Technology” should know how to read a manual… What a great and funny comment. I guess common sense can NOT be found at the north Atlanta trade school or even in Radakovich or Peterson office. By the way, if you are going to cheat, you ought to at least win something important like the SEC or a NC!

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SO ANGRY…Why the mud slinging (and juvenile name calling) at Schultz or the Dawg fans on here – many of us (Dawgs) agree the NCAA has gone too far on this one and that Tech is getting a raw deal. As for Schultz, he’s intitled to his opinion and if you disagree try doing it in an intelligent and respectful manner…it will make your arguement sound much more credible.

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It’s one thing to cheat and win, but to cheat and still be so bad? Must be tough to be a Jacket!

GO DAWGS!

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All the UGA fans who say Tech does not matter are all on here commenting on something they claim not to care about. I think UGA is the one with the little brother syndrome. If we truly did not matter you would not be reading this,

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JB nobody give a GF what you think. A good dawg fan you are..I see your blogs on all uga blogs and u never have anything to say positive..screw off.

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If any of you would take the time to read Bud’s letter to the NCAA, you would see that we were perfectly right in playing Thomas. We based it on 1). An internal investigation. 2). Outside legal counsel that assured us there was no standing (the guy was his cousin!). 3). We passed the information along to the ACC and they assured us that there was little to no chance he could be declared ineligible. The allegation was basically recognized as being the BS it was, and we played him. Upon appeal this will definitely be overturned.

Drad contacted Johnson because the NCAA investigators arrival was immanent and Johnson needed to set up an appointment between the young men and the investigators. When Johnson set them up he told them they better tell the truth. How insidious!

But don’t let facts and that reading thing y’all have such a hard time with get in the way of a good time! The NCAA needed to make an example of somebody. Notice how quickly all of this happened. They got pissed that a few very minor violations were committed, and that we thumbed our noses at their ridiculous request. Without anything to find, they allege a massive coverup (evidence, anyone? Bueller?). Bunch of ridiculous people in a sad organization trying to cover their a***es.

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Really? We’re on here because we are sports fans and there is NOTHING on TV…Braves are back tomorrow baby…

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The pompus Johnson has ruined the Tech Football program! Worst attitude in the college ranks as coach! This losing season should end his terror reign at tech! All you dumb jocks thought he walked on water! He set the program back years!!

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Can anyone else see a problem with NCAA logic?? NCAA unforms AD of investigation. AD is not allowed to tell Coach of investigation. Yet Coach is supposed to know to not play player(s) in games due to investigation, the existence of which he is not allowed to know. Hmmm…

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This is both KARMA and “poetic justice” for the geeky-nerd-loser-douchebag segment of the GT fanbase.

When UNC Chapel lost multiple players for getting some “Food & Drinks” at a party, the smug GT Fanbase wanted Butch Davis FIRED and called the UNC program out of control, now that the GT players are the ones taking small gifts, NONE of those douchebag-weasely fans remember their comments levied at OTHER CFB Programs.

Many GT Fans love to claim how stupid the Mutt Program is, but they were “smart enough” to sit AJ Green for the first 4-games rather than try to get away with it, GT acted WORSE than both ug@ & UNC because they went against NCAA instructions and prepped the SA’s “testimony” in order to INTERRUPT the investigation.

DRad might be the one taking the fall, but I guarantee you that the “PE Major from W. Carolina” was the one that didn’t want to sit Star players going into the ACC-CG, like CMR did with AJ Green for the first 4 games last season.

CMR could have potentially LOST HIS JOB last season, yet he did the right thing and sat Green, while Coach Fish Fry had NOTHING TO LOSE yet he rolled the dice and played Bey-Bey Thomas anyway, that right there tells you a LOT about CPJ.

GT Fans need to ask themselves WHY Coach Kung Fu Panda handled this situation so POORLY?

All he had to do was sit the SAs for the ug@ Game, the ACC-CG and substitute his “Offensive Genius” and simply won BOTH GAMES, and there would have been no big deal.

DRad was grossly unprofessional for telling CPJ about his talks with the NCAA AFTER the NCAA told him not to prep the Athletes in question, but CPJ acted even WORSE than DRad by telling the SAs that they were going to be questioned, not to mention anything ELSE he might have said to OBSTRUCT & MANIPULATE an ongoing NCAA investigation.

CPJ is lucky he is at GT, at other schools HCs have been fired for similar conduct.

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How you like that box of chocolates GT! Take that…bam!

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WnE (Logan Booker)

I haven’t been keeping up with the ajc blog in a while, so I’m not sure about this. Are you still pretending to be a tech alum, or have you come out of the closet yet?

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None of you seem to get the point.

A multi billiion dollar entity–NCAA, sanctioned a muti million dollar member Tech because a poverty level student Thomas took $312 in clothes from his cousin’s friend, a middle class ex back up QB.

really now doesent it seem rather stupid ? just what is the NCAA worried about that this type of an event concerns them so much—-they think somebody is getting money that belongs to them ?

One more thing for you Dawg fans.

To compare this situation to AJ Green only to point out how wonderful UGA is would be to ignore that Green was suspended at the beginning of the season, two games of which were against way lesser opponets — what would UGA do if they were about to play Florida, Auburn, Tech and then a bowl game ? Diffirent situation all together–from a competetive stand point. and might I add a recruiting (ie business) standpoint. It’s also like bragging that you didn’t eat an apple— and failing to point out that it was rotten.

either way this is an issue Tech and UGA fans should be able to come together on—–a college student should not be subjected to this line of inqiury simply because they took clothing—of any amount. Like Green Thomas was already at Tech and the clothing was apprently something to do with the attempts of an agent to get a client —- a kid who was about to enter the NFL, NOT AN ATTEMPT to get the kid to come to the school.

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CPJ comes across as GRADE-A DOUCHE-BAG because he has the friggn’ NERVE to tell SAs/Potential Recruits BEFORE they sign with GT to “not get on that plane” (i.e visit other Colleges), YET when the NCAA tells his FATS A$$ to not inform SAs that they will be interviewed, he ignores that directive and coaches testimony that leads to a 100K FINE and 4-years probation.

All the weasely, boot-licking toadies that hang on every word that CPJ speaks, now realizes what a sham and what a PHONY Coach Fish Fry is.

In another 12 months or so CPJ won’t have any credibility left to Recruit any decent players for GT, he’s already burned bridges in Ga. & Fla. with his draconian rules about taking visits to other schools, this is why GT is Recruiting NC HS FB so heavily, pretty soon that’ll dry up and Tech will be Recruiting in the NE-USA.

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drad needs to resign—he blew it with his arrogance, costing tech big money.

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Jeff,

If you’re going to write a blog on this subject, I think you are required to at least take a look at this: http://www.gatech.edu/inc/hgFile.php…a_10-11-10.pdf This is a letter from Bud to the NCAA.

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WnE,

you may want to do some fact checking. It was Radicovich told Johnson and who failed to follow the ‘don’t tell anyone rule’ not CPJ. Nor was it CPJ who “coached” someone for the interviews it was supposedly the general counsel advisor.

you do make a good point on the NE recruiting–Penn State, Boston College & Notre Dame have all ruined their programs doing that

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To all the Techies, including Saint Simons and Yellow Fuzz, this couldn’t have happened to nicer folks… .

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Let’s do what GT fans and alums have always done, blame someone else and whine and cry about it.

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“A financial penalty in the amount of $100,000. Payment of the fine shall be made
at the time the institution’s preliminary compliance report is due (August 29,
2011).” – I wonder if they will take used clothes of comparable value ? A friend of my cousins roommate knows a real important dude who can get us lots of Adidas gear . Run this by D-Rad but axe him not to tell nobody

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Here’s a little clarity for you Schultz.

So, the NCAA says they told D-Rad not to mention that the
NCAA was coming to campus to interview any players.

And yet, in 2009, there were DOZENS OF ARTICLES from the AJC, ESPN, CBS Sports and others that REPORTED that the NCAA ANNOUNCED IT WAS HEADING to Athens to interview AJC Green EVEN BEFORE the NCAA arrived on campus

THIS IS A GLARING AND SHOCKING FACT that both the AJC and the NCAA
have so very conveniently chosen to overlook.

This FACT all by itself proves the both the ambiguity and unethical method
of operation of the NCAA.

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Mr. Shultz,

Thank you for writing on this discouraging topic. I know how you must feel as I too am a writer and I find it unbearably strenuous to write about a subject, that I hold so dear, in such a negative manner. That being said I am a Dawg fan and I am tired of reading all of the reports on UGA’s missteps on the AJC. I had vowed to not read an AJC article until there was one about Georgia Tech in a negative situation. I never thought it would happen, but here I am. A good journalist gets the news out, a great journalist reports all news.

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ACC Atlanta’s Cover-up Crooks!!!!

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This is the worst thing to happen to Ga Tech in my life. DRad is the same guy who paid an outside company $250,000 for increased new ticket sales and new ticket sales were down from the previous year. Now he proves he cannot be trusted. He has also brought big time debt to Tech which the GTAA cannot afford. Basketball may be terrible for the upcoming season, and GTAA’s finances could take another hit. WOW!

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TO DONT WORRY TECH FANS………………..WE ALMOST NEVER SALVAGE A SEASON ON BEATING TECH. AVERAGED 9 WINS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS IN A TOUGHER CONFERENCE WITH A TOUGHER SCHEDULE. YOU STRETCHED SOME BASIC TRUTHS. ONE AREA WAS TRASHED…..AND NOT A HUGE ONE…….AND HAVE BEEN TO 3 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES IN TEN YEARS. NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS I LIKE BUT TO SAY ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING MEANS YOU ARE REACHING. BUT THEN THATS ALL YOU HAVE.

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re:
Paul in RDU
July 14th, 2011
11:14 pm
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If a certain HC had simply shut his friggin’ mouth then DRad’s comments would have simply stayed between the HC & AD, and the player would not have been “coached” on how to handle the NCAA Interrogation.

Do you think that DRad “prepped” Bey-Bey Thomas, or do you think that CPJ did the deed, for all your logic that you like to present on these blogs, who do you think was more likely to tell Bey-Bey what to say to NCAA Investigators, the AD or the “driven HC” that wanted to win a Conference Title and secure a $200K Bouns?

BTW, since CPJ was DIRECTLY INVOLVED in the shenanigans that led to the 4-yrs. PROBATION and the vacating of the ACC title, does he have to PAY BACK that $200K bonus?

Wow, do you see what happens when you let the NCAA “get in your business”, all sorts of unpleasant questions seem to pop up out of nowhere.

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Their, There, They’re comments:

Look dont start that. I wanna know who told us we needed 3 different spelling to pronounce 1 word? O it shows possession? O it is a contraction? Well I say the word the same way, I understand when I read a sentence what the meaning is. I do not need some facist government telling me how to spell a word.

Also while we are on it who had the bright idea to ad the extra “O” on to? Really I needed a extra “O” to let me know it is substituted for also?

This country is crazy! You post on a blog you better know your tenses or there/their/they’re be to/too many consequences for those actions. Where are the simpler days?

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Tech finally pays for their rule breakage. I have Tech friends who say we do not break any rules and they are mad. Who is going to pay the 100000 dollar fine since they are already in big time debt. Warning to Ohio State, Tennessee and Auburn to cooperate with the NCAA. Tech did not and you saw what happened. The only problem with the forfeits is they only lost one game in the final three games. GO DOGS!!!!!

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So, lets try this again schultze.

So, UGA-homer Tim Tucker of the UGA-biased AJC found out about a
HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL NCAA investigation supposedly known ONLY
to 1-2 key officials in the UGA Athletic office.

And Tucker, all by himself and ahead of EVERY OTHER media outlet in college sports
uncovered that upcoming CONFIDENTIAL visit ??

ONLY 1-2 people within the UGA Athletic office were notified by the NCAA that they were coming.

So, if only 1-2 people in the UGA Athletic office knew, then who from the UGA office
informed Tim Tucker? Someone OBVIOUSLY told Tucker.

How is it that NCAA did not go ballistic over PUBLIC disclosure
of an UNDISCLOSED AND HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL investigation meeting in Athens ??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Wrex – Still waiting for your comments on UNC-CH

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Tech can call and ask Paul Hewitt for a loan in paying off the 100k….

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Schuktz:

Liar Liar pants on fire.

It was spread all over GT blogs last week how Mark Fox had traveled out if state
to visit a recruit at some basketball camp.

Not one word from the AJC that Brian Gregory was also at that same camp
talking to the same recruit.

It was only after the GT blogs lit up about the blatant omission that the
AJC website was “suddenly” changed to reflect the Gregory visit.

GT fans know the AJC is UGA-biased. Dont pretend its not.

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if i understand this correctly,it isnt the deed of the clothing as much as trying to hide it. my dawgs have taken a few small lumps but they along with tolley(lawyer) have tried to do right. i think thats his name anyway. tech did as alabama had done in the past……….what us? it is best to try and resolve it and come clean. i dont know. if this happened to uga it would be humiliating also. take it and move on.

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I a going to see where this ends up in the AJC in the morning, If this was UGA it would be on the front page. Every time Tech did something wrong it was toward the back of the sports page. Why if the rumors came out a couple of weeks ago why is this the first time we are hearing about Tech’s problem It seems to happen to Georgia the moment it happens and the AJC does not report the jackets problem until the curtain falls on them.

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Where’s ESPN and all the other sports media ? All we have heard over the past year has been about Auburn, Ohio State, UNC, etc transgressions but no action has been taken. And today the bomb is dropped on GT ? Can the media not tell us whats going on ? Its like planning to be attacked by Canada but you find out you’ve been attacked by Mexico. Does this mean that Auburn, Ohio State, and UNC are as pure as the driven show ? I guess it does. Next, we’ll find out that Harvard cheated.

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So let me get the straight, Thomas illegally received $312 worth of clothing from his cousin. WTF you can’t receive stuff from your family if your an NCAA athlete. And what the hell is this about not cooperating with their investigation. Some how all this warrants a $100,000, losing our ACC Championship, and 4 years of probation.

While AJ Greene sold his jersey for $1,000 and all he got was a four game suspension. By the NCAA’s math UGA should have had a $300,000 fine and 10 years of probation.

Looks like the NCAA has an ego bigger than Barry Bonds head because we didn’t welcome them with open arms. What a bunch of dumb farkers

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Sorry Jeff but my friends and I have seen it in the AJC always seems to report Georgia problems faster than Tech problems and where it is in the AJC is not your decision. I have friends who can tell you a few times how bad news like this hits Georgia gets front page news while Tech if it gets reported gets page 4 or 5 if it is not on the back page where people does not see it. I respect you and I am a long time Ajc subscriber and i know what I say is fact.

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This is a disappointing result. The NCAA rules are written in English and apparently are not Rocket Science. The Athletic Director at Tech as a requirement of his continued employment should be able to understand these rules, understand direct instructions from the NCAA and the limitations of disclosure. There are thousands of dedicated alumni who are interested in the reputation and tradition of the institution as much as whether or not we are “ranked” in some sport or have a highly regarded recruiting class. I hope that Dr. Peterson creates a system for “institutional control” that has no organizational responsibility to the Athletic Department and reports directly to him. Additionally, it is clear that the Athletic staff needs a review course in NCAA regulations and perhaps new blood in administrative positions.

As a graduate and supporter for nearly 65 years, I am disappointed in the lack of institutional control and the lack of regard for the reputation of the institution by those in positions of responsibility who should know better.

Regarding the fine, $100,000 seems excessive for $312 worth of whatever. If that stands, then our friends at UT and Ohio State had best get out their checkbooks.

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GA Tech should have learned from AU…Remember, AU declared Newton inelgible, the next day the NCAA reinstated Newton and they then kick my dawgs ass and win a NC…Stupid Tech….

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Bottom line, the NCAA is a joke. College athletes are indentured slaves that put their limbs and health on the line so that colleges can make money and businesses can sell more Bud Light. Whether it’s $300 to Be Be or Tony Cole, it’s the same thing. Players look bad for being capitalists. NCAA keeps them down. Tired of it. We need a new system that gives these guys a piece of the pie. These people are not criminals. They just want to get PAID! Just like Tech, UGA, LSU, AU, AL, UF, UT, OK, USC, MS, MSU, VT, FSU,… ok you get the point. They just want to get paid just like the NCAA… System failure. Go Dawgs.

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Auburn will get their punishment along with Ohio State and Tennessee in the next few months. Gene chizek’s behavior a few weeks ago could cost him some money on top of it. You do not demand anything out of the NCAA until the investigation is over. He knows Auburn is going to pay for their mistake and his attitude problem will cost him some big money.

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fosterjoiner, i really don’t think AU will get Ohio St. treatment…10 months of investigating and no LOI..they cannot find any money trail…no money trail no LOI i’m afraid…

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All this for $312.00 dollars and a dumb Lawyer. Hell, Ga. has had over 20 players arrested in 2 years and the NCAA is not worried about that? The Jim Harrick academic scandal and they got a slap on the wrist. Lets not even bring up Herschel Walker admitting he couldn’t read when he graduated but he still got a diploma. And can we mention Jan Kemp scandal. Lot hens in the dog house to pass judgement on $312 dollars.

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Robert, I don’t think it is the 312.00 dollars, which I agree, every school is doing crap like that, the problem is, Ga Tech didn’t go through the appropriate measures when the NCAA notified them etc..LIke GA suspending AJ or like AU making Newton inelgible. I am really surprised at DRad, he looks really bad in all of this, or maybe it was the GA tech compliance dept…

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Cam Newton knew what is coming is the reason he turned pro. Auburn would not have won the national championship without him. It is a known fact the FBI is investigating the pay for play scandal with Cam’s dad. It is my opinion his dad confessed to the crime and he was probably going to be decared ineligible sometime in the future. Chizek is scared to death after the incident with the NCAA investigators. He knows something and he might not want to tell because his job might be on the line if it does. What is he hiding?

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Remember Tech only forfeits one win because They lost to Georgia and to Iowa in the Orange Bowl so they forfeited the ACC championship. They could have forfeited them all. Think about it.

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Athletic director Dan Radakovich and president G.P.”Bud” Peterson

were BOTH told by the NCAA not to say 1 word to anyone that the Georgia institute of technology was under NCAA investigation for MAJOR INFRACTIONS of the NCAA including

PAYMENTS

ILLEGAL BENEFITS to football player at Georgia tek

DON’T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT, NCAA TOLD athletic director Dan Radakovich and president G.P.”Bud” Peterson.

Dan Radakovich then told Paul Johnson. And, the AJ-C goes on and the trickle-down from there.

AJ-C ?

Where in the blazes was there ever any mention of this ever in the newspaper I have thrown down in the street in front of my home ?

Answer. There never was.

If this were UGA, AJ-C you would have followed the whole entire story, citing OPEN RECORDS LAW of this state.

CALVIN BOOKER

Calvin Booker was Quarterback at Georgia tek 2007 and 2008 throwing 35 passes and completing only 15 for 2 interception and 2 touchdown passes, only.

Calvin Booker also rushed 33 times for 27 yards, total in his career at Georgia tek. Less than a yard per carry and 0 touchdowns rushing.

Calvin Booker attended

MAYS HIGH SCHOOL in Atlanta

Calvin Booker signed with Auburn and played at Auburn for his 1st two seasons, then TRANSFERRED to Georgia tek.

Calvin Booker thought that Auburn wasn’t giving him enough of a chance there.

It was quite the scandal at the time, when he transferred to Georgia tek May 8, 2006, as a sophomore.

Demaryius Thomas

Demaryius Thomas, who had 22 catches with Denver Broncos last season for 283 yards and 2 touchdown catches, also rushed twice for 1 yard total with no touchdowns last season. Demaryius Thomas had 2 lost fumbles.

DEMARYIUS THOMAS of

MONTROSE, GEORGIA

was the only receiver on Georgia tek’s “team.”

All the other WR quit the “team” and now stripped of ACC Championship, leaving tek with none ever.

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Throw the bums out …………….I still like coach Johnson though

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Red Panties

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I want to see what Ohio State gets then $312 worth of clothing get the f outta here. These student athlete need to get some compensation the university made millions off these guys a scholarship doesn’t adds up to it . The ncaa is so stupid

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I don’t think the punishment would have been so severe if not for the fact, the violations come so close to the previous punishment. Whether there was an actual attempt to hide the facts or try to hinder the investigastion is almost secondary probably. People criticize the NCAA for not doing enough and then when it happens to them, it is suddenly too harsh. In light of the many suspicious and illegal things that have taken place with some football programs in the last few year, maybe it is time, to put the foot down a little harder. Look how the OSU fiasco turned out. I will bet you, Techs. punishment will pale in comparsion to what the NCAA gives them.

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Time to move on and take your punishment like grown men. You got caught, now just make sure it doesn’t happen again and move on. I would bet, techs. indescretions are going to pale, when compared to what THE OSU has coming. Tennessee isn’t going to be too happy either.
Maybe, if enough warnings and penalties are given out, situations like this and the others now in trouble, will be cut down some. Blaming everybody else, for the problems your coach and administration caused doesn’t help resolve it. Trying to point at another school, doesn’t help either. Man up and make sure it doesn’t happen again.
As for the AJC not reporting it earlier. Why didn’t tech. first report it when they were notified about the investigation? Are only news publications suppose to be aware of these things?

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Tech fans may be pretty sharp in math but their reading comprehension skills suck. Tech was given a heavy punishment because they ignored the instructions of the ncaa. If your employer tells you specifically not to do something and you do it anyway and you try to cover it up what do you honestly think is going to happen? say what you want about cmr but the man has high character. Cpj needs to set a better example for his players leadership starts at the top!

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Shultze you are a dawg loving moron with an agenda

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RedandBlackDAWG 3:52 am,

The news publications under OPEN RECORDS LAW are supposed to protect ALL EQUALLY, not just publish about UGA but specifically to publish what was obviously KNOWN to the AJ-C.

AJ-C failed sir.

Didn’t they ?

I am not saying that Georgia institute of technology did not disclose that which they must now disclose, but that the AJ-C PURPOSELY FAILED to tell us what they knew.

You get that, sir ?

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The good old NCAA looks like they are going to investigate every single school to make sure no kid gets any clothes, food, transportation etc for free. THere is a rumor swirling around, hasn’t hit the press yet that a middle linebacker out in the mid west had an accident in his pants and the NCAA is investigating this….the team is to lose its championship. Those dirty players. How dare they want clothes and pizza. What a load of crap. The NCAA is really scared that the players are going to get something of monetary value and they feel a though they should get the Damn value themselves. How dare these kids get food or clothes or other stuff that regular students get. Remember that student athletes school schedules are a bit different than some students and they don’t have too many opportunities to make any extra spending money.

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UGA better be careful casting stones. Wasn’t that long ago that Mark Richt butt dialed a recruit… what a joke.

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The ironic thing about letting Thomas play in the Georgia gamee in 09 is that he cost Tech the game by dropping the ball late in the game on what was an easy catch. Best is remember it was fourth down and it gave Ga. the ball back to run out the clock.

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Can the NCAA please stop investigating student athletes for petty crap like this. If a kid gets a free pizza the NCAA wants to come down on him and his school. Since when isn’t the kids stuff his own? He can’t sell it or give it away without an investigation? Well there is going to be a big story break out of the mid west where a linebacker for a mid western team had an accident in his pants…school is to lose their championship….real stinky situation. Lets see….the country is Trillions in debt, our political leaders are spending every penny we have along with our children and grand children and we are worried about a kid getting a free shirt or pizza. What really needs to happen is that college students should be investigated by congress for the dastardly actions. Go away NCAA. Why not investigate what your doing with all the billions your making off of college athletes who play sports. Lets look into what your eating, looking at…any dirty pictures…any prostitutes???? yikes.
Next they will come out and say student athletes can’t have sex because it has a monetary value!!!! Can you imagine a football coach today..worrying about where one of his players got a pair of socks or upon making a visit to his dorm room and low and behold they find a filthy empty pizza box…investigation…call the NCAA . Can student athletes have yard sales?? NOOO…that would break all NCAA rules I bet. Who does all these petty investigations? Its got to cost everybody a fortune…over a shirt or a pair of pants….at first glance it seems very stupid. What we could and should do is appoint the NCAA to investigate our congressional leaders for their spending habits. Now that could be really meaningful. Lets put NCAA spending restrictions on congress!!

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The NCAA is very selective with its indignation. Suspending one player for selling a ring and let an admitted felon and cheat like Newton go unpunished.

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Tech will appeal this. In law there are sentencing guide lines because the judges have a tenancy to be too lenient. I think it is based on the weighted average of the sentences that have been handed out before on this subject. If this is the case here this decision is an elephant compared to the crime. Ohio State and any other school under investigation would have to get the death sentence to equal justice. You cannot operate with this kind of scale. What are you trying to stop? Is Tech a rogue program out of control? Isolated in this one story it may look that way but compared to the rest of the NCAA, like the program itself it barely makes a splash. The alumni don’t really expect too much here, that is why we took seats out of the stadium. There needs to be an appeal, even if Tech is guilty. There needs to be a public airing out of this. When schools like Tech who have no real overblown ambitions are the subject to this there needs to be a better explanation. This will rock the entire NCAA, which is on thin ground now. I don’t think there is any real hate for Tech, like there might have been for a U of Miami. We are not good enough and basically most people realize we sacrifice winning to education. I think the NCAA has picked the wrong battle; this one will come back and bite them. I think Tech is one of the few schools that can gather public support in these kinds of matters.

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Cheating for $500:
What do Beverly Hall and DRad have in common?

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So, let me get this straight: Tech had to actually cheat to be mediocre?

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And Chris Weber didn’t call time out but Urbane Meyer did, right dogs??

TIME OUT TIME OUT TIME OUT

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You know the Beverly Hall thing is not that far off. If you are cheating to get the average student looking good what are they doing for the high school football player? Atlanta may be ground zero for corruption all of a sudden. No wonder it is so hot. How many schools are playing APS grads?

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RedandBlackDAWG

With all due respect, the AJ-C has never let that stop them from saying what they found using the Georgia OPEN RECORDS LAW about UGA.

Please quit making up excuses – stretches at best, by only you – to try to defend the fact that I pay this newspaper $350 a year and that the AJ-C

COVERED UP this story, yet every single AJ-C “sportswriter” was well aware of this NCAA investigation for almost 3 years now – since November 11, 2009.

OPEN RECORDS LAW for this state says that they HAVE THE FACTS on this and have had. Yet, not 1 word until it catches the recruits who have committed to Georgia tek by “surprise.”

It ALSO took every single reader of the AJ-C by surprise and despite your poor attempts to dream up possible EXCUSES for it, the AJ-C is clearly caught

NOT REPORTING the news of the Georgia institute of technology

right on the same street in the same block as this newspaper.

Sad reporting indeed.

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Abolish the NCAA! The source of the “corruption” was an SEC transfer from Auburn.

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Cheaters

Have always cheated, and it continues.

Ive always stated you cannot have those so called high academic standards and bring in thugs to your program and then want to act like they are in the engineering school

If the NCAA would do a complete investigation they would find the GT Business school is where the cheating really goes on since 90% of Tech football players are in the business school

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Great job on breaking this story, Schultz.

Atlanta media is a joke.

Maybe you should concentrate more on real journalism vs writing about Harvey Updyke every week.

Douche bag.

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Glass Houses People – NCAA didn’t stop with USC, Ohio State or Tech. Be careful who you guys laugh at, they may be coming to a university you think does no harm either!

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GT has not been really decent in football on a CONSISTANT basis since the mid 1950s. Decent to me and most college football fans means MAJOR BOWLS like the Cotton, the Sugar or the Fiesta ( on in the last 20 yrs) or the Urange, Rose or Capital One and possibly the Outback Bowl. The Gator and Chic Fil A and Music City and Boise Blue Carpet Bow, the Shoney’s Weedeater Bowl, or that wierd Micron Bowl in SF do not count.

The lone exception is their 1990 NC shared that year by 3 or was it 5 other schools? That LONE 1990 year dating all the way back to the mid 1950s proves that GT has not been a factor since President Eisenhauer’s era and BBBB…………..meaning Before Barrack Being Born.

GT has nothing to show for being a major program over like 55-60 years beyond 1990. The ACC title in 09 is non existent now ……………….so, as I was saying before I ………………..

This is so funny. GT cheating and getting CAUGHT TWICE in less than 10 years. THUGS they are with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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Thanks for reminding me Jeff why I pay for the MDJ but read the AJC only if its free.

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I might kick my own ass.

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Cheaters

Cheaters

And you still cannot beat a sorry UGA team

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I would like to know how this got started. Who told who what? I don’t see anybody at Tech really admitting any big wrongdoing. The suspected players don’t admit any wrongdoing. I don’t see the NCAA proving any wrongdoing. You had a clear violations at UGA and OHIO State. If the items in question were returned then who cares? I would suspect that the NCAA after learning the items were returned was not satisfied. They wanted to keep looking until they found a violation and that’s why all you have is a failure to cooperate with the NCAA because Tech told them to take a hike. If they want that type of control they should be like the Communist Party and have a NCAA “party” political officer at each institution to keep an eye on things.

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My father and I are Tech grads. This is a sad day for Tech. The AD and coach need to be dismissed. Integrity is more important than winning.

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Take a look these folks are/were the legal advisors. They’re suppose to know what the legal ramifications would be.

http://www.admin-fin.gatech.edu/AFOverviewSpr09.pdf

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Tech should have been smarter about this, but the NCAA is a joke.

Terrelle Pryor and other Ohio State athletes were under investigation for the tattoo parlor thingy (impermissible benefits) and the NCAA let them play in a bowl game! Thomas and Burnett were NOT declared ineligible (and from everything I can read in that report, were never, to this day, proven to be ineligible), so how can the NCAA make us vacate the ACC championship? How is this fair? I’ve been frustrated with the way they arbitrarily enforce rules, but this is ridiculous. They CLAIM the players were coached on their interviews, when they cannot prove it to be so. Yet it took them how many years to figure out the Reggie Bush money trail?

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Not only Randy Nordin,,,,you have wonder which attorney was providing advice to Nordin also.

http://www.legalaffairs.gatech.edu/about-ola

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The mess is the result of silly, nitpicky NCAA rules.

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“Stupid is as Stupid does” It means that an (so called) intelligent person who does stupid things is still stupid. You are what you do.

CPJ and the all of the Ga Tech administrators, are really stupid

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I have not read all of the comments but those I read did not suggest what an appropriate penalty for Tech should have been. Whether or not Tech actually did anything wrong is a point we could argue endlessly and it would only prove the bias of those arguing. Given the fact that regardless of your feelings about Tech’s guilt or innocence no one seems to think the NCAA is consistent or credible in their enforcement policies, how should the NCAA have handled this?

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Not because of GT but any school…I don’t believe anything from the NCAA…mafia

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Hopefully, As with us with Jan Kemp, Jim Harrick, Damon Evans, we learn and get better as an University. Tech will also get better because of this. Go Dawgs

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I would love to know who the investigators were and who wrote this scathing report by the NCAA over what amounts to a clothing gift of $312 value. Way over the top! Sounds more like someone with an agenda.

THWg!

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Paul Parker, who was the Jackets’ compliance officer at the time of the infractions, left the school in April to take a job at (ironically) Auburn. …

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I’m a Georgia fan and agree this is all so stupid. The NCAA has no respect whatsoever. And Auburn continues to get by with what everybody can plainly see was a pay for play scheme and if lying and covering up aren’t obstructions then I don’t know what is. However, they just made alot of money for the NCAA.

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Let’s see. The head coach is responsible for trying to make sure the players follow the rules. But the NCAA says dont tell the head coach. The head coach is not the target of the investigation so how come not inform him. This is where the hindering the investigation charge comes from. Stupid. There is no evidence at all that the coach hindered anything. From all sources it appears the NCAA just wanted to prove a point. The investigator got his little feelings hurt. If you cant inform a coach that there might be a problem how is he or she supposed to watch out for these things. CPJ and CMR appear to have enough integrity to do what is right. If coaches cant be involved, then the NCAA has a big big problem. Look out for CFA to break away from NCAA.

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Jeff, I don’t know if you are right or wrong on your facts, but I sure appreciate the effort.
Tech fumbled the ball. They had 2 small violations and dug in their heels and ticked off the NCAA.
Damn Tech, show some common sence. You could have made those minor violations go away over night. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid

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This is the last straw… As a GT Grad I am relinquishing all my fan status of the athletic programs at GT. I’m going to remain proud of my degree in Mechanical Engineering and the academic standards for the non-athletes at Tech. What a joke the athletic department is!!! I grew up a Bulldog fan and went to Tech because they offered engineering. I have remained loyal to Tech for 20 years, but I am ready for a new team. Any suggestions?

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Enforcement by the NCAA is like how theTSA gropes 6 and 7 year old childeren,
and wheel-chair bound 80 year old grandmothers trying to trvel by air.

NCAA = NAZIS

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Not impressed, It looks like CMR is smarter than CPJ. CMR did the right thing with his player and CPJ did not, …… CPJ is not very bright…. along with his coaching.

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Schultz your wrong:
1st Tech did not break any NCAA rules, NCAA never found the gifts of clothing illeagal.

2nd rather then being wrong and admitting to it, The NCAA says Tech talked to a player when it should not have. No facts that when Tech talked to him they coached him, just that the NCAA THINKS they did.

3rd a lot of teams have talked to players under investigation, example UGA talked to and suspended AJ Greene before NCAA finalized investigation.

4th player was allowed to play in bowl game because it was determined he never received illeagal gifts, same finding by team and NCAA

This is all wrong, Scotter Libby 2

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Tech ! ACC Champs ??? I think UGA should be the ACC Champs for 2009.

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Tech fans stand up for your coach! Don’t fire PJ, I like the one guaranteed win every year.

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[...] for Tech’s AD is the fact that the NCAA specifically stated that Tech officials attempted “to manipulate the information surrounding potential violations” and “hindered eff…Radakovich has said that he did not mean to interfere with the NCAA’s investigation, but he [...]

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athlon does NOT…..

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I don’t really get what Schultz, Bradley, etc. are talking about.

I have read the report, and the Tech response, and I think if/when Tech appeals this awful decision, they will ultimately have the ACC Title reinstated and have the probation term reduced.

I still don’t see anything that Tech did that would be constituted as a major violation that should result in any severe punishment.

The players involved have not been ruled to have been ineligible, that I can see. The NCAA simply states that Tech SHOULD have held them out to determine further to what degree they were eligible. However, I believe the ACC cleared the players in question to play.

The NCAA cannot prove D Thomas or M Burnett received anything from an agent or agent runner, or that Tech coached or advised players to do anything that would mislead NCAA investigators. Just supposition and conjecture.

All of this is based on the NCAA being ticked off that Tech did not bow down at the NCAA altar. This is why this makes me sick, be it Tech or otherwise…the NCAA has basically put a team on probation b/c they did not play nicely with the investigators and they had their feelings hurt.

That should scare anyone who is a fan or alum of a college team.

I would hope that some of the “journalists” at the AJC would feel the same way, but they seem to be more interested in talking about a Tech “scandal” or “cover up”.

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A GT player just spit on the sidewalk in Atlanta, where’s the death penalty?

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Collegedude- The NCAA is broken, and fankly, doesn’t deserve any respect at this point, imho.

Willie – the dollar amount always matters.

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collegedude, you put a statue for someone with a # of violations…..appreciate you Banker, for interjecting a note of rationality,cheat implies intent, incompetence implies stupidity, &, tho’ ignorance is no excuse, the jury usually cuts you slack-remember, this all antedates the recent even more bizarre and erratic actions of the nzaa(maybe if they had done this quicker, would that changed some of this later crap?),&, like king george, if we don’t hang together against these despots, we will all hang seperately…..

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So that means we didn’t lose to UGA in 2009?

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Sean Bedford is absolutely right…the NCAA is pathetic.

They like picking on the small schools like Tech, cuz it won’t cost them anything.

On the flip side…
USC got a relative slap on the wrist after giving Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo hundreds of thousands in benefits.

Auburn continued to play Cam Newton when in the midst of an investigation concerning at least $100,000 in benefits, and nothing.

Perhaps most egregious is the ruling that Ohio State players are FOUND GUILTY in a scandal, yet allowed to play in the bowl game?!?!?!?!?!

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BankerDawg – Definitely agree that the NCAA is broken. However, when you cooperate with the investigation, your punishment is less than what it will be if you refuse to cooperate. If you refuse to cooperate with an investigation, your punishment is still going to be less than if you actively attempt to manipulate and impede an investigation.

That’s what I’m trying to say. The punishment fit the crime in terms of what the NCAA has doled out to other schools. If Tech would have assisted with the investigation, rather than impede it, you would have seen little to no punishment by the NCAA on this.

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The NCAA should make players ineligible on the spot or not have the ability to retroactively make them ineligible. It puts teams in situations where they have to guess on the NCAA’s findings which is a horrible process.

NCAA: Hey guys, we think one of your players got some shirts and shoes. We don’t really know who they came from though. Maybe you should make him ineligible for your most important games.
GT: Well, we checked with everyone we can think of and we determined you are wrong.
A year and a half passes.
NCAA: Yeah, we finally decided we were right. Give us 100k and your ACC trophy.

It’s just stupid how this process works.

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What a surprise Tech get’s busted and it’s not there fault. Techies love to come to the dog blogs and vent but they get so defensive when UGA fans do it to them. Techies are all a bunch of insecure, whining, erector set playing babies.

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If Aaron Murray farted in his car in the drive thru at Wendy’s it would get a mention. This investigation was going on for 20 months before AJC got a sniff of it…. Maybe this is why the AJC & the newspaper industry as a whole is dying. It no longer provides the service it claims to provide….

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The NCAA is on it’s own personal agenda now, after how poorly they handle THE OSU and Auburn matters last year. It is painfully obvious, that if it involves a big money situation, that they will bend their rules to keep the big bucks floating and make so many exception that only a member of the NCAA enforcement committee would believe they are on the level.
With all the darn rules they have, I do not see how any school can avoid some sort of violation or another. The problem comes, when they ignore or delay investigation into the big violations and act like they did the right thing. They are now trying to insert themselves into the pictures as the end all to all and saying, if you lie too us or hinder our investigation, we will chomp on you. That is all fine and dandy if they use an equal and just approach to this and apply it evenly to all schools. I would think with the investigations they have now going on, they would not have been that concerned about a relatively small matter like Tech. was involved in. I think they are trying to send some type of message, that they are not allowed to be mislead, lied to or thwarted in their investigations. Seems a little late in the game for them to now try and recover their reputation.

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It is my understanding that DRad telling CPJ about the investigation is in no way a violation of NCAA rules. Rather, it is something that was asked of DRad by the investigator regarding him telling anyone of the impending visit.

DRad chose to tell CPJ based on his need to know around scheduling, etc.

Again, this, to my knowledge, is not an NCAA violation. It seemed to be, though, what ticked the NCAA investigator off.

I guess ultimately my problem is that nothing was proven…not the dealing with an agent, not the ineligibility of the player(s), not the manipulation of witnesses…nothing.

So I would argue the punishment is absolutely disproportionate based on the fact that Tech wasn’t found guilty of comitting any infractions. A rather BIG point, I think.

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The report says Tech “appeared” to manipulate. . . . and it’s a “cautionary tale” for the other member institutions? They can say what they want, but they are using Tech as an example in hopes that Ohio State, UNC, Auburn, etc. get the message.

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Was the agent jilted when Bay-bay didn’t sign with him? Was the agent the informant?

Who was the nark?

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One thing I’ve always noticed about Georgia Tech is their Arrogance. You get the feeling after living in the ATL for awhile that GT thinks they engineer the universe. So when they find out they done something wrong in football and basketball instead of Tech following the logical course to resolve it, they just throw the ole Tech arrogance at it thinking that this will work because we at GT and a hell of an engineer. Well Georgia Tech just call yourself Forrest Gump. Arrogance will always lead GT to Total Stupidity… As it did in this case of Arrogance on the Flats!

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So lets see, UGA had what, 10 players arrested throughout the year last year AND Green was caught selling merchandise for money. Where was the NCAA then? If the NCAA is supposed to stand for integrity they should of been all over UGA for their horrible personalities, lack of conduct and just overall poor actions from their players. Tech’s Thomas recieved some free tee shirts. Yes that is wrong and yes I think some people should get fired, but to strip the ACC Championship away is wrong to do, no matter what school.

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Matt K.

Don’t confuse civil misdemeanors with NCAA by laws. The NCAA will allow schools to handle their own civil matters if it does not involve a case of breaking an NCAA rule.
A. J. Green was self reported by UGA and he was suspended, by the university, even before the NCAA had ruled on the punishment he would receive. There is the difference. There was no attempt at any time to hamper or misguide the investigation. The NCAA says that is what Tech. administrators did. Tech. did not suspend the player involved prior to a decision being made by them on punishment.
Tech. can appeal the ruling but who knows how long that will take or whether they will get a favorable ruling. Also, against Techs. favor, is the fact that two years ealier they had just been on probation so the repeat offenders ruling must have applied. It doesn’t do any good to try and point the finger at other schools. If the Tech. administration had handled the problem right in the first place, the punishment might not have been so harsh.

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UConn got caught giving 6K to a player but had better lawyers. Yeah, it makes sense to punish GT more – at least in Jeff’s universe.

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I thought the AJ Green punishment did not fit the crime. The investigation committee was head hunting and the suspension should not have happened. I twittered the NCAA after the corrupt ruling and told them they were trying to make examples out of some athletes who did not do anything wrong compared to what Tech did. Tech did not talk to the investigators so they were punished.

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Mr. Schultz, when are you and Mr. Bradley going to end the AJC honeymoon with Paul Johnson? The best it can be for him is that he knew it was in violation to “talk” to the Tech player prior to the NCAA or he did not know the rules after coaching at the Naval Academy for ten years and being in coaching for 32 years. That is incredulousl. He has been given a pass by your paper. Had that been Coach Richt he would have been crucified then drawn and quartered publicly by your paper .Yes I am a UGA fan but I respect Ga. Tech and Coach Johnson but fair is fair and he was/is the head coach and he has been given a pass by both you and Mr. Bradley.

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