SI says Richt (UGA) has a better job than Saban (Alabama)
Does Mark Richt really have the fifth-best coaching job (two spots ahead of Nick Saban)?
Somebody at Sports Illustrated just came up with their list of the 20 best college football coaching jobs in the nation. Not surprisingly, Georgia made the list. Given its history, stature, conference, recruiting base and overflowing cash drawer, I’ve always considered it a top 10 job.
But No. 5 overall? Ahead of Alabama? As well as Penn State, USC and Notre Dame?
That’s the opinion of Andy Staples, who tackled this subject because of the current state of affairs at Ohio State (which is No. 2 on the list). I’m not going to copy-paste the entire article here, but here’s what Staples had to write about Georgia, as well as excerpts on the other SEC and ACC teams on the top 20 list of “most desirable jobs.” His reasons for having the Dogs so high are worthy, and also reaffirms why there is focus on coach Mark Richt this season.
Staples on the Dogs:
Want to know why Mark Richt is on the hot seat despite six seasons with at least 10 wins since 2001? Because Georgia has the resources to be in the national title hunt every season. The Bulldogs just finished a major football facility upgrade, and they play in one of the nation’s iconic stadiums. They have plenty of money. In terms of recruit preference, the Bulldogs rule a state that cranks out 90-100 BCS AQ-conference signees each year. Theoretically, Georgia should have its pick of those players, but Bulldogs coaches can’t always stop Alabama, Auburn, Clemson and Florida State from cherry-picking some of the state’s top recruits. Unlike Florida or Alabama, which must fight off in-state rivals, Georgia recruits on a different level than Georgia Tech. The situation is more comparable to Texas and Texas A&M, which is why Georgia fans had a right to be dismayed that the Bulldogs had to win last year’s installment of Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate just to pull even with the Yellow Jackets at 6-6 on the regular season. (Never mind the Liberty Bowl loss to Central Florida.) Put simply, this is a great job for Richt if he can return to his early 2000s dominance. If Richt can’t, the right choice can come in and win big in Athens.
It seems like a fair assessment. Here’s the list. We can debate the order but I think all of the right schools made the list:
1. Texas.
2. Ohio State.
3. Oklahoma.
4. Florida.
The forthcoming cavalcade of SEC schools probably should be listed as 4a-4d, but my bosses won’t let me have a four-way tie. So the SEC East’s best jobs get a slight nod over the SEC West’s best jobs only because the competition doesn’t seem so cutthroat in the East. You’re only supposed to win the national title every other year at Florida or Georgia; at LSU and Alabama, you’re supposed to win the national title every year. Sure, Florida has to compete with Florida State and Miami for recruits, but there is plenty of talent in the Sunshine State to go around. The state of Florida produces more talent than any other, and the University of Florida is the flagship university and the only SEC member within a 10-hour drive of the extremely fertile grounds on the southern end of the state.
5. Georgia.
6. LSU.
LSU edges Alabama because of only one factor. Alabama must fight Auburn for the best recruits in the state of Alabama. LSU has to fight no one for the best recruits in talent-rich Louisiana. Sure, out-of-state schools occasionally try to swoop in, but just as Ohio children grow up wanting to be Buckeyes and Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, Louisiana children grow up wanting to be Tigers. Other than that, LSU and Alabama are about the same. Both programs rake in the cash and play in massive stadiums before deafening crowds. And in both places, if the coach can’t keep his team in the hunt for the national title every year, people will start clamoring for a coach who will.
7. Alabama.
In the 2009-10 school year, Alabama finished second to Texas in total revenue ($129.3 million), and the school opened an addition to Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2010 that raised capacity above 100,000. No fan base in America cares more about its football team, which can cut both ways for a coach. Win a national title and get a statue. Don’t win a national title and get run out of town.
8. Penn State.
9. Auburn.
Auburn falls below the dead-heat SEC quartet above for one reason. Because the Tigers historically are the Red Sox to Alabama’s Yankees, the Crimson Tide have the initial edge in most in-state recruiting fights. This edge isn’t insurmountable, though. Auburn also is only a short drive from talent-rich Atlanta, but those players have to be wrestled away from Georgia and Tennessee. Auburn doesn’t bring in quite as much money as Alabama, but the Tigers still have cash to burn. They can pay a handsome salary and have plenty left over to pay offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn $1.3 million a year to turn down the head coaching job at Vanderbilt. This is critical, and it is a common factor among all the schools listed so far. Any school willing to shell out for quality assistants is serious about winning.
10. Oregon.
11. USC.
12. Michigan.
13. Notre Dame.
14. Florida State.
Jimbo Fisher may just turn this into a destination job again. It sits this low because the fan/booster base was lulled to sleep at the end of the Bobby Bowden era. Upon his ascension to the big chair, Fisher immediately went into fundraising mode. He convinced boosters to chip in, and he quickly bulked up Florida State’s academic support, strength and nutrition programs. The recruits have flocked as well. Because of the school’s location, FSU’s coach has to work a little harder than Florida’s coach. Tallahassee is at the northern edge of the state, so players from Central and South Florida have to drive right through Gainesville on the way to FSU’s campus. The Seminoles are closer to many players in Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina, but they have to fight to get those players out of their home states. That said, coaches at most schools would volunteer a limb to have as many quality players within 300 miles of campus.
15. Nebraska.
16. Tennessee.
In 2009-10, nine athletic departments broke the $100 million revenue barrier. You’ve already read about eight of them. Why would an SEC program with 10-figure department revenue and a 100,000-plus stadium slip this low? Because Tennessee coach Derek Dooley has to work so much harder than his rivals to get recruits. The state of Tennessee produces some players, but its geography tends to breed mixed loyalties. Most of the best players are in Memphis, which is a six-hour drive from Knoxville. Players there grow up hearing as much or more about Ole Miss and Arkansas. Nashville is more of a Big Orange stronghold, but out-of-state schools have been known to slip in and pluck players. Tennessee is at its best when it can dip into Atlanta (three hours away) and pull players, but when good coaches sit at Georgia and Auburn, that’s a tough assignment.
17. Virginia Tech.
In terms of proximity to players, Virginia might be a better job than Virginia Tech. But Coach Frank Beamer has done such a good job convincing players from the stocked Tidewater area to come to Blacksburg that he has effectively negated any geographic disadvantage. Virginia Tech also can dip down into North Carolina, which has an underrated high school football culture that routinely produces great players. Virginia Tech would be higher on this list but for its revenue. The fan base is excellent, and Lane Stadium offers an intimidating home-field advantage, but Virginia Tech consistently ranks in the bottom half of BCS AQ-conference schools in revenue. The Hokies are quite competitive on the field, but Texas, Ohio State and the SEC powers are playing an entirely different game on the balance sheet.
18. Arizona State.
19. Arizona.
20. Oklahoma State.
So what are you thoughts on the list?
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MatthewH
June 3rd, 2011
1:38 pm
Staples talks a lot about competition within a state. So why aren’t jobs like Boise St and Utah (where you can rule the state) listed? I guess it has to do with where your recruits come from, or the whole BCS conference thing.
cantondawg
June 3rd, 2011
1:39 pm
first
cantondawg
June 3rd, 2011
1:40 pm
almost first
MatthewH
June 3rd, 2011
1:43 pm
Also, I’m not sure VATech should be that high. Before Beamer came they weren’t ever in the discussion. Remember when Dooley was their coach? So, do they have the tradition? Would another coach be able to build on that or would they continue to be a school in SW Virginia that is a pain to get to?
cantondawg
June 3rd, 2011
1:44 pm
With all things considered, i do think that UGA is one of the top jobs in the nation. I’m not sure if i would rank us fifth but definitely in the top 10. Alabama would probrably be a top 3 job if not for the unreasonably expectations from their fanbase.
Oklahoma seems a little high
Michigan and Notre Dame should definitely be in the top 10.
VD
June 3rd, 2011
1:45 pm
Good argument and valid points about those SEC schools.
bhamwreck
June 3rd, 2011
1:46 pm
Imagine if Alabama had to rely on players from in-state. No Ingram, McElroy, Richardson etc.
MatthewH
June 3rd, 2011
1:47 pm
Cantondawg, In looking at all 20 of these teams, I think all have “unreasonable expectations of the fan base”. I think that’s part of what makes it an attractive job.
Russ, the Temporary Mascot
June 3rd, 2011
1:48 pm
I’d say that’s about right. Mascotting at UGA is not the best macot job in college football but it certainly is top ten. That’s why it is such an embarrassment to see fat, slobbering Ugas sitting on a bed of ice and panting like they are about to drop dead. That’s what this school has gotten used to and here I am trying to elevate the program and they insist that I am a temp. Well, they can just paint my a$$. Not really.
Navy92
June 3rd, 2011
1:48 pm
Good list and the order can certainly be debated. But why does Richt vs Saban or Georgia vs Alabama have to be the title of the article? That is baffling. LSU is ranked ahead of Bama. Why not compare GA to LSU?
GTT
June 3rd, 2011
1:51 pm
Cause Saban is obviously loads better than The Hat, whatever his name is.
Herschel Talker
June 3rd, 2011
1:53 pm
Schultzie:
Richt may indeed have a better job than Saban.
On the flip side, Bama has a MUCH better coach than UGA. Bama’s coach wins multiple national titles, while our coach holds onto Willie Martinez for 4 years. Bama’s coach motivates people to win, while our coach motivates people to get arrested.
Lord, 2012 and the Kirby Smart era can’t get here fast enough.
HT
Rusty6311
June 3rd, 2011
1:56 pm
I agree except this season Mark Richt has to produce. No ands, ifs or buts!! He has added to his staff at considerable pay increases, almost as much as the college president Adams is paid. So Richt at your salary almost 8-10 times the college president, now is the time…..
JClay
June 3rd, 2011
1:57 pm
No way is OU top 3 job in country. Also Va Tech? A top program no doubt, but top 20 job – not at all. I hate the U but it should be on the list
Richt`s Hammer
June 3rd, 2011
1:58 pm
Of course I have a better job. Three million a year, no responsibility. New daddies every year. Really thought we could at least tie Central Florida.
A university that doesn`t have enough sense to get rid of me, and a idiotic fan base.
Life is grand, pass the biscuits.
Blueboy
June 3rd, 2011
2:00 pm
Richt better enjoy it, he won’t have it for long!
Navy92
June 3rd, 2011
2:02 pm
As a Bama fan, I think Bama is ranked about right. Despite its tradition, success, profile, etc, there are some programs that have much more fertile recruiting grounds. The key at all of these high profile programs is to have the right coach in place.
Gumby
June 3rd, 2011
2:02 pm
I like Andy Staples but don’t always agree. This is one of those times. I don’t see anyway for UGA’s desirability to be ranked over some of the teams below them, but especially the Alabama coaching job. .
I also didn’t agree with his pre-season college football rankings but that like this coaching rank is just an opinion, which as we know everybody has one, just like an unnamed body part.
Dawgfan79
June 3rd, 2011
2:04 pm
Go Dawgs !
Lincolnton Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:07 pm
For every die hard, bammer jammer out there, there is also a Dawg fan who feels just as strongly about the UGA football program.
Bammer Jammer fans feel like they are the only fanbase who has, or is allowed to have passion toward their program.
Hate to tell them, but they are not alone.
And UGA doesn’t have to worry about diving into the state of Alabama. If Bama relied on as much home grown talent as UGA they would be no better then Kansas on the football field. And the only team Kansas can beat is Georgia Tech. (sorry, had to throw that one in there)
Another Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:07 pm
My list would go:
#1 Texas (Austin is a great town, great tradition, rich AD, and a clear path to a national championship each year, with a patient fan base who understands that you cant win a title every year)
#2 Oklahoma (Norman isn’t as great as Austin, but it’s not terrible. Otherwise, very similar to Texas.)
#3 Florida (Best recruiting state in the country, rich AD. Expectations are pretty ridiculous, but the support is outstanding)
#4 Georgia (Athens has one thing that no other school in the SEC can boast: access to a major metropolitan area with culture and society. The school/fanbase can match anyone in the SEC, but the quality of life for your family far outpaces. If we had won a title in the past 5 years, we’d be #3.)
#5 Ohio State (Would be #2 or #3 if not for impending doom from the NCAA.)
#6 Alabama (Expectations of the fan base are just outrageous and fans have no concept of reason. Remember the National Championship predictions under friggin Shula? Tuscaloosa is also a crime-ridden ground zero of gang turf wars. And Birmingham? The Pittsburgh of the South? No thanks.)
#7 LSU (See Alabama but with less tradition, an annual game against Florida, and closer to New Orleans)
#8 FSU
#9 Michigan
#10 Nebraska
I would say Notre Dame is fairly ranked. They are a joke of a program at this point. Everyone with a vested interest in Notre Dame has taken it on the nose… NBC Sports ousted their President over the deal. And Notre Dame fans (what few are left) still believe they deserve something.
I think the most important part of this is the pressure to win (and win now) that a fanbase/AD puts on a coach. That’s why Georgia is a better job than the SEC West jobs. That’s why FSU/Nebraska (Bill Calahan lol) are so good. And with Ohio State in turmoil, Michigan is primed for a recovery with Michigan Man Brady Hoke teaching the Michigan Men on the team to be better Michigan Men on the field so they can be great Michigan Men later in life.
Les "The Hat" Miles
June 3rd, 2011
2:09 pm
Hey, I would’ve been better than Richt, but I was suppoed to send SI an email detailing why LSU was better. It was supposed to be in by 3pm, but I just wasn’t paying attention to the clock.
Tech Tard
June 3rd, 2011
2:10 pm
I’ll just go to cnnsi.com and read it there. Thanks for the tip.
cantondawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:11 pm
HT,
Not that you have any credibility anyway. But you lost whatever shred that you may have had when you said you can’t wait til the Kirby Smart era gets here…You want to replace a coach with 6 10-win seasons with a coach that has no proven record and has made a living hanging off Nick Saban’s nutsack. If god forbid CMR gets fired, my bet would be on Dan Mullen who is a proven coach.
King Gator
June 3rd, 2011
2:12 pm
4th!! Go Gators!! and we beat #’s 2 & 3 for BCS NC’s recently! Go Gators!
Tech Tard
June 3rd, 2011
2:13 pm
Herschel Talker
You aren’t a Dawg fan. We ALL know it. It is pretty dang sad you pretend to root for another team. Very Sad! Every time you get on here, you say nothing positive about UGA. Go root for another team NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RDR
June 3rd, 2011
2:14 pm
1-9 are interchangeable, i.e., anyone of these schools could be 1-9. Tennessee looks a little low at 16. I’d put them ahead of any PAC 10 or ACC school. South Carolina is definately a top 20!
AZTEC
June 3rd, 2011
2:16 pm
if a coach doesnt like heat and humidiy and freezing rain later in season then why not coach at SAN DIEGO ST, actually i have a hard time believing that players wouldnt want to practice every day in perfect weather.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:16 pm
Would agree you could bundle Florida,UGA,LSU,Bama,Auburn,UT in a hat and pick and you could have a tough argument on which is the better job. Its the nature of the beast in the SEC. Throw in the atmosphere of Ole Miss and the Grove and that is why the SEC will always be the best conference in the nation.
LoganvilleDAWG
June 3rd, 2011
2:18 pm
Why don’t some of you so-called DAWG fans comment on some of the positive things Coach Richt has done this year. He has gotten rid of players that were trouble for the program, he had a very good recruiting class, he has a new strength & conditioning director, and so far of these guys have not been arrested(knock on wood), the defense should be alot better than last year. I do have concerns. Such as the offensive line, the running backs, the wide receivers and on defense the defensive backs. I am not saying those groups are not going to be good, but there are alot of unproven players. The 1st 2 games we will see. The Dawg fans should look at the good stuff, support Coach Richt, the assistants and our players instead of wanting to fire Coach Richt. Make some freaking noise at the stadium. Most of our fans sitting around complaing about Coach Richt. When I was at schhol at UGA from 1978 – 1982, it was ONE TOUGH PLACE TO PLAY, less seats and alot more noise. I know the visiting teams come in & think it is a home game due to our fans not making any noise. These so called DAWG fans are a bunch of whiners, the glass is half empty, instead of half full.
Buckeye
June 3rd, 2011
2:21 pm
Go Bucks!
GrangerDawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:22 pm
For those who think Notre Dame should be higher, I live in the South Bend area. If the weather here was considered as a ‘quality of living’ issue for the coaches and family, that would explain the ranking.
Seriously, the facilities are not the greatest, which would probably affect the author’s ranking. They are not bad, just not on the level found at some of the universities listed higher.
Go Dawgs…
RDR
June 3rd, 2011
2:22 pm
DrDawg………he already has…..twice.
NWGA Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:23 pm
I’m a little baffled that Arizona State & Arizona are on the list…
Buckeye
June 3rd, 2011
2:24 pm
Another dog,
You are inncorect. Vanderbilt/Nashvillle has it all. I’d take Nashville over Athens any day of the week, including ford tough saturdays.
GrangerDawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:24 pm
@ Buckeye
Go Bucks! Go Directly To Jail… Do not pass Go… (Hope you aren’t driving to get there.)
Sorry. Cheap shot. Too many Buckeye neighbors up here. Just had to vent.
DrDawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:24 pm
I think it all boils down to Florida. If Richt can’t beat a first year coach at Florida, it proves that he just can’t beat Florida. Everything comes down to that one game.
Suckers!
June 3rd, 2011
2:28 pm
UGA has to be the best job in the land. No expectations from the powers that be. The mutt fans think they’ll be champs every spring, get woefully disappointed come fall and yet they continue to shell out thier monies again the next year.
Yeah, that’s the dream job. Pay me millions and let my team suck and get embarassed by UF every year. SUCKERS!!!!!!!!
Texas Pete
June 3rd, 2011
2:28 pm
How many head coaches leave UGA to go somewhere else? That should tell you all you need to know why UGA is ranked higher than most programs for best coaching job. Remember, this isn’t about who has the best team or which coach is the best.
UGA perks that set it apart:
1. Money. The football team keeps the Athletic Department in the black every year.
2. Loyal fanbase (that is loyal to the program).
3a. Great in-state recruiting base.
3b. No major in-state competitor for recruiting (Tech just hasn’t capitalized like they should yet).
4. Great tradition and national brand. People know about Uga, ‘Tween the Hedges, and the red and black version of the Green Bay Super G.
5. Athens. This is one of the most near-perfect setups for a big college town. You’re not in a major city but one is only a metro drive away (Atlanta) when you want to spend that pocket money on the town. Athens comes alive when the traditional school calendar is in session and quiets down during the summer. Plenty of great propery to build a home and enjoy the quiet life without really being in the middle of nowhere (both Athens and Atlanta are close to home). Just ask Dooley, Goff, and Donnan why they didn’t all just run off to ranches in North Dakota when their time as coach was over. The Athens area is just great when you’re rolling in dough (and great when you’re a broke college student).
Cmon man
June 3rd, 2011
2:32 pm
@loganvilledawg sorry my friend in order to have a decent conversation about uga football you have to go to a pay site. The ajc is nothing but a huge pissing contest, people come here just to make nasty comments and act like kids!
Stinger2
June 3rd, 2011
2:34 pm
Where is Georgia Tech? They should be ranked at least as high as
Arizona and Arizona State. We have CPJ and the TO offense that is always good for 400 plus yards per game. Coach Johnson is not under pressure to win like the SEC coaches and he gets a decent salary. I bet he would rank GT in the top twenty.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
2:35 pm
Dont bash Ohio State to mush because that is where Richt is coaching next year. He is going 5-7 this year and getting canned.
Texas Pete
June 3rd, 2011
2:35 pm
Remember, the only people who hate Atlanta are those Georgians who were raised outside of metro Atlanta. It seems that people from all over the country and world love coming to Atlanta for events just as much as any other major city. As much as the Atlanta-haters don’t want to admit it, Atlanta is an attractive draw for big events and specifically sports.
Driving to Jacksonville or Orlando just doesn’t do the same justice when living in Gainesville, FL.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm
Georgia tech should not be on there. The run a triple threat who uses that in the pros, no one. Players will never make it in the Pros, that job is around the 70.
Ray
June 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm
Why do you say SI when one person who works for them says that? If you say something, is it okay for me to say the AJC says blah blah?
ClinchCountyDawg
June 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm
Buckeye
Ohio Sate is under alot of fire lately. Why don’t you wear your Big O sweater vest down to Dairy Queen and get a dilly bar? Couildn’t Hurt!!
DIT
June 3rd, 2011
2:38 pm
I think UGA is a top 10 as well…… Not #5. Tennesse should be ranked higher as well.
“Where is Georgia Tech?”…….. that’s a good one. Right where they need to be. Out of the top 20. Sorry, tech does not belong on this list.
Patrick
June 3rd, 2011
2:39 pm
Uga better than bama? Is this guy on crack? Alabama is a top 3 program. Maybe #1. I guess using his logic, the saints are a better team than the packers.
ormewood
June 3rd, 2011
2:39 pm
The last three on Staples’s list: Arizona, Arizona St, OK St, do not belong. Then again, neither does GA Tech nor the Gamecocks. Sorry.
Tide Rising
June 3rd, 2011
2:39 pm
Hard to believe someone would consider the Georgia job better than Alabama but I can see some of the reasons why. Not just Alabama but talent rich USC, Penn State, Notre Dame of all people, and Michigan. I think Mr. Staples has been drinking some stagnant pondwater.
There is more state high school talent in Georgia than Alabama and its the only show in town since Tech has to recruit a different kind of athlete that will fit in academically. But Alabama can recruit nationwide much more effectively than a regional program like Georgia so that’s actually kind of a tradeoff in terms of recruiting. Same with ND and Michigan which can both pluck players from everywhere and USC which has vastly more talent at its disposal than Georgia and which can go nationwide unlike UGA. Also far more enormous tradition and prestige at all of those programs.
But if someone thinks the Georgia program is a better job then its really only due to expectations. The Bama job takes a different kind of beast- only a Saban or Bear or Stallings can meet the demands of a job like that due to the expectations of the fan base. Bama would not pick up with 2 back to back mediocre seasons. You would be outta there.
So in a sense I think one could make the argument that lower expectations and more patience from the fan base would make the Georgia job a better job. You think Bama fans would tolerate losing 18 of 21 to their biggest or 2nd biggest rival? You better think again.
ormewood
June 3rd, 2011
2:41 pm
The last three on the list do not belong: Arizona St, Arizona, OK St. Neither do the Jackets or the Gamecocks for that matter. Sorry.
Suckers!
June 3rd, 2011
2:42 pm
“You think Bama fans would tolerate losing 18 of 21 to their biggest or 2nd biggest rival? You better think again.”
You got that right, Tide! Only a mutt would even consider keeping a coach that loses 80% of the time to their arch rival.
SUCKERS!!!!
Gary
June 3rd, 2011
2:47 pm
SI just confirmed what Bulldog fans already knew, Georgia ia a great place for college footall. I have been a lifetime fan and though I am not proud of our 2010 record, I am proud to have Mark Richt as coach. The championships will come, we have the right guy in charge. Herschel Talker can go bother another blog, we’re all tired of him (her).
DIT
June 3rd, 2011
2:47 pm
Flip Bama & UGA, that should be about right.
ATLBadger
June 3rd, 2011
2:48 pm
18. Arizona State.
19. Arizona.
20. Oklahoma State.
Don’t understand those at all in the Top 20.
dinkdunk
June 3rd, 2011
2:49 pm
Don’t forget, Bama was a 2nd tier program (see: LA Monroe) not so long ago. Despite your recent successes, many Bama fans harbor the delusion that they rarely lose. Seems to me Bama has lost to AU for (what is it) 6 out of the last 8? 18 out of 21 is still mathematically doable…
Saban get his scholly warehouse curtailed, who knows, maybe the recent run is short lived.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
2:49 pm
I will wear my vest proudly, we will be back with a better coach next year. You will see Mark Richt wearing that vest next year.
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
2:51 pm
I once asked a Louisiana Tech coach about recruiting in South Arkansas and a particular recruit:
Coach asked the kid: What will it take to get you to commit to Louisiana Tech”
Recruit didn’t say nothing.
Coach said: Is it the school academics?:
Recruit said “got to have some of that.”
Coach : Is it the campus?
Recruit said: “dats nice too but that ain’t the reason.”
Coach: is it the pretty girls on campus?
Recruit: ”
Dats nice too but it ain’t the reason”
Coach: well tell me, what is it that is going to make you sign with Louisiana Tech.
Just tell me–whatever it is. What is the main reason you will sign at Tech?
Recruit: “Its da food.”
Tim Tebow Jr
June 3rd, 2011
2:51 pm
Who in the world would want to coach at Aubarn? The town itself is and eyesore and depressing to drive through.
Mean Machine
June 3rd, 2011
2:51 pm
Well Duh! That’s why CMR needs to win the SEC this year. UGA should be mentioned in the SEC and NC talk every year, and they’re not. As good a job as Richt has done, he’s still underachieved considering all the resources, support, money, and recruiting base that UGA provides. I’m glad someone else besides the so-called “delusional” Georgia fan sees this.
Dave in Buford
June 3rd, 2011
2:52 pm
its all about money and UGA consistently generates the cash … that fact alone makes this whole discussion rather sad but is also the reason why the school is so high on this list.
Suckers!
June 3rd, 2011
2:53 pm
dindunk,
Whatever makes you mutts feel better about no expectations. Hershel ain’t coming back and neither is a title. But keep paying Rev $3 mil.
SUCKERS!!!!
ugakev
June 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
Tide Rising, Your fans are sick in the head I will give you that… Just remember you comment on all things involving Georgia on AJC. I can see why Georgia is such a popular job, every other schools fan base in the southeast that is not Georgia is upsest with us. I love coming in here and seeing all the negative comments towards us. It means we are still alive and well and you all fear the day we are on top. Make no mistake about it when Georgia wins a national championship in the near future it will be hell to pay for all of you. Greatest Stadium in College football, Greatest College town in College Football, Top notch facilities with some of the Greatest talent in the whole nation to choose from. A fan base as passionate as the best in College Football. Yeah I would say Georgia is a top 5 job in the nation in college football if not higher.
Dr. Warren
June 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
Oregon a better job than USC. That’s laughable. This list should take a long-term perspective, both past and present. USC dominated the decade, it’s in Socal, which is as good as Florida for recruiting, and will retool quickly after the penalties. As always, the top jobs are Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, Michigan, Penn State, and Texas.
Gary
June 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
I would sure pick Georgia over many of the other schools listed. Where else would you want to be on Saturday in the Fall other than Athens. Great school, great students, great fans, great campus. We took our lumps last year on the field but find me a team near by that hasn’t had a season like that once or twice in the last ten years? Yah, Florida seams to have our number these days but would you really want to live in Gainsville Florida, Louisianna, Auburn or Tuscaloosa. It would be nice if Athens were a little closer to Atlanta but it is a great place to live. Would not be surprised at all if Richt stays there after his retirement.
Texas Pete
June 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
Tide Rising,
No offense to Mark Richt and the Alabama players of the past decade but if Saban were in Athens with the talent we’ve seen go through Sanford Stadium, do you think Saban would have brought at least one BCS Championship to Athens? Honest question. I mean UGA teams grew soft defensively over the years and Saban wouldn’t have allowed that…
You mentioned some great coaches in Bryant, Stallings, and Saban but you left out the DuBose-Franchione-Shula era and why they couldn’t quite get it done. Besides, this isn’t a measure of the most storied programs in history (although the list reflects them in shuffled order). Alabama is a great job and a great opportunity but those expectations suck.
Dealing with probation sucks too. That’s not a jab at Bama but with all the stuff that kept landing y’all on probation before Saban, that’s got to weigh on a coach’s mind when considering that job. One thing is for sure, Bama has to deal with Auburn and Tennessee in the game of backroom politics and backstabbing. Not even UGA-Florida has that kind of relationship and you guys have 2 programs to deal with on that level. There really aren’t many negatives to the UGA job beyond what comes with the territory for all SEC schools. As others have already pointed out, the expectations are lower in Athens than some other places. Sure, the fans demand a lot but we are a clear tier behind some of the more rabid fanbases and boosters in the country.
Suckers!
June 3rd, 2011
2:55 pm
“It means we are still alive and well and you all fear the day we are on top”
The only one that fears that is your old lady.
SUCKERS!!!!!
Name
June 3rd, 2011
2:56 pm
Of COURSE it’s one of the best jobs. You can suck worse than Jim Donnan and still keep your job in Athens!
Let's Go
June 3rd, 2011
2:58 pm
First off SI today is not the same as it was 20-25 years ago and the quality of their staff is pretty low. Guys like Peter King and Don Banks(NFL) and Jon Heyman (MLB) are still pretty good and old man Frank Deford writes a decent article when he can find the time but for the most part they have gone young and cheap and most of them like Andy Staples suck.
Jeff Schultz could write better articles about college football then the hacks they have. Remember Time Warner owns SI and they screw up everything they come in contact with.
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
2:58 pm
AUBURN is a one cow town.
DUHUGA
June 3rd, 2011
2:58 pm
there anit no way bama is better then us at uga. we have a better school for learning and ball playing.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
2:59 pm
“Hard to believe someone would consider the Georgia job better than Alabama but I can see some of the reasons why.”
Me too! As yet nobody has heaved a brick through Coach Richts front window.
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
2:59 pm
Tuscaloosa a two cow town.
RTR!!
June 3rd, 2011
3:00 pm
Another Dog posted:
“Athens has one thing that no other school in the SEC can boast: access to a major metropolitan area with culture and society. The school/fanbase can match anyone in the SEC, but the quality of life for your family far outpaces”
and
“Tuscaloosa is also a crime-ridden ground zero of gang turf wars.”
Per http://www.neighborhoodscout.com:
Athens Crime Date:
Violet Property Total
1,201 9,962 11,163
Tuscaloosa Crime Date:
Violet Property Total
477 5,348 5,825
So Athens has twice the crime rate of the “crime-ridden ground zero of gang turf wars.”
And you Georgia folks call Alabama fans delusional? Idiots, pure idiots!
Chi Town
June 3rd, 2011
3:00 pm
Why do all the puppy fans think Athens is such a great town?. It’s a cesspool IMO. Would prefer Starkville over that dump.
Crumpy frisky.
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
3:01 pm
Kevin: Georgia fans = Alabama Fans ?
Get a grip. Alabama Fans are the equivalent of Texas Aggie Fans. I still have a little respect for
those who support the “G”.
DUHUGA
June 3rd, 2011
3:01 pm
we anit no stealers, we drink the moonshine and get crazy thats all
Kevin
June 3rd, 2011
3:02 pm
Athens > Tuscaloosa
Sanford Stadium> Bryant Denny
Georgia fans = Alabama Fans
Georgia high school football > Alabama High school football
I would say the Georgia Football job is def a better Job Than Bama.. I dont even know how that would be up for debate
jay
June 3rd, 2011
3:02 pm
The Georgia job has everything. Huge fan base, lots of money, great facilities and a beautiful stadium. Georgia is one of the top 5 states in the country for high school talent and Athens is
truly one of the nicest college town’s anywhere.
I like Richt and think he is a good coach. However, with all of the above going for him, the last 3 years are an absolute mystery.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
3:04 pm
REALLY DUHUGA REALLY
Buckeye
June 3rd, 2011
3:06 pm
grangerdog,
The irony is there has not been single arrest, coach or player, is this entire sordid affair. We didn’t get a single tick for your Fulmer Cup. No arrest, felony or otherwise, and look at the aftershocks. Amazing
Chi Town
June 3rd, 2011
3:07 pm
Great job, RTR!!
Puppy fans are more delusional than any other fan base when it comes to their dump town and football team.
Kevin
June 3rd, 2011
3:07 pm
lol…i hear u joe
Buckeye
June 3rd, 2011
3:08 pm
tOSU Fan,
No way. Win With may go 5-7 but we won’t be hiring Richt, Saban or Gruden for that matter.
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
3:08 pm
tOSU Fan…damn Liar is what you are. The whole place President, AD, fired coach even the towel boy is a damn liar. Get out of a SEC blog with your cheating ass.
GeoffDawg
June 3rd, 2011
3:08 pm
Well said Texas Pete.
RxDawg
June 3rd, 2011
3:09 pm
“Does Mark Richt really have the fifth-best coaching job (two spots ahead of Nick Saban)?”
Damn straight he does. Those Bama folks live on an island.
Paul in RDU
June 3rd, 2011
3:10 pm
Although most of the posts are OK, there seem to be a few “homer” posts on this blog. I look forward to SI having a similar column on basketball coaches and reading postings about how UGA is a better job than UNC and how Athens is the greatest town anywhere (far superior to Chapel Hill).
SSIgator
June 3rd, 2011
3:12 pm
Jeff Schultz -
“SI says Richt (UGA) has a better job than Saban (Alabama)”
Correct. In fact UGA should be the #1 job. All you have to do is praise the Lord and don’t let the KoolAid machine run dry. Piece of cake.
GoVols
June 3rd, 2011
3:13 pm
If Bama had to rely on homwgrown talent? Good grief, how stupid you dawg fans are. Ever heard of Stafford? How about Knowshon? Maybe even AJ Green? No wait, Aaron Murray, aren’t they all from Georgia?
ClinchCountyDawg
June 3rd, 2011
3:13 pm
Buckeye
Maybe Ohio State would be interested in the football coach at Homerville. Current Class A State Champs and no recruiting or player scandals. I don’t count the quarterback who got caught running moonshine, because the Sheriff owned the still and charges were dropped.
Get Real
June 3rd, 2011
3:14 pm
As usual, UGA is way overrated.
War Eagle
June 3rd, 2011
3:14 pm
Summer is here, Dawg fans start drinking more and the pre season hype begins.
Fireman
June 3rd, 2011
3:17 pm
If you can’t win at UGA, you really can’t win anywhere. Loads of recruiting talent, lot of money, brand new facility, really, unless you can’t coach, you should win 9 or 10 games a season.
My bet is Richt got lucky in 02′, 05′ & 07′ with his talent and asst coaches. I don’t think Richt will get the team back to a 9 or 10 win season. He’s getting worse every year.
Chi Town
June 3rd, 2011
3:17 pm
Well said, GoVols.
Puppy fans are so much fun during the off season. Then Boise State will come into town and beat the Necks from Winder and we wont hear from them again till the following off season. Good thing about the 2012 season is Jawja comes to Tuscaloosa. Talk about an as* beating. 2008 Blackout will pale in comparison to Bama will do them.
Atticus
June 3rd, 2011
3:17 pm
Herschel Talker, you are smoking something if you think Kirby Smart is going to be the HC at UGA next year……not a chance. Richt wins and stays or it’s Dan Mullen.
ugaclassof2004
June 3rd, 2011
3:17 pm
Staples is right. UGA should be a National Title contender every year. 8-4 should be considered a losing season at UGA. Richt got us close in the mid-2000’s, but now we’ve sunk back down to Ray Goff-like levels. Our program is a sleeping giant. With the right coach, we could blow the lid off . I think if Richt had retired after say 2007, we’d be calling him UGA’s best coach, even without a National Title. But the last 3 years have been some of the worst football I’ve seen UGA play, especially defensively. Its time to get that pride back. Richt’s done a good job for us pre-2008. But its time to move in another direction.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
3:18 pm
Oh I know they did wrong and they do too. They all should go I agree. All I am saying if UGA don’t win this season Richt is gone. From what is being said he is on the list to talk to.
i would put the sec teams 1,2,3,4 etc
June 3rd, 2011
3:19 pm
because no conference in the nation other than the SEC…
-routinely has 4-5 teams in the fulmer cup top 10 every year
-cares so little about the academic side of football
-is so ok with over signing that they will cull 10 or more players each and every year to reach the ncaa limit
- has ncaa rules created specifically to address the chea… er ah stretching of the rules that the goes on in the sec ever single year. alabama’s saban leads this charge.
-plays such a weak oc schedule with most of those games are at their place.
-has the most powerful sports entertainment conglomerate in their hip pocket (Each Sec team is Payed more than just Nicely)
i am sure i missed some advantages that the sec has that no other conference has… beuller?
And yes as bad as tosu issues are this year they pale in comparison to what goes on in the SEC every year by 3,4,5 teams. for instance tosu doesnt routinely have 10 players arrested each and every year. the bad thing about the tosu issue is the lying of the coach. it is just a matter of time before these same issues start biting the sec teams in the a$$. tosu problems are not particular to just tosu but rather systemic to college fb. the ax is ready to fall big time for the bcs teams.
having said all that tosu and the vast majority of college teams have scruples and do not over sign like the sec does routinely.
one thing that stands out about this article is the mention of the uga stadium being ‘iconic’. i guess the word iconic means different things to different people than because when i thing of the cesspool…
i think of stale urine
i think of uga fans urinating on opposing fans
i think of tons of trash left all over campus by these same fans
i think of the students urinating in their own library
i think of the cesspool smell that permeates the air
i think of the jails being full of drunken uga fans every weekend
i think of an abc crew saying that the fans at uga are the most drunken disorderly fans they have ever encountered in over 30 years of doing broadcasts.
i think of chewing tobacco stains left on my car
if that is the meaning of iconic than yes uga’s stadium is iconic.
Loyal Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
3:19 pm
As I die hard dawg, nice to see that and agree with many arguments EXCEPT UGA has very little National recognition. most People know the Alabamas, Auburns, LSU’s, etc. but know very little about UGA, the amount of money our Athletic Dept brings in (top 5), the stadium size, enrollment, etc. When I tell others not from the SOuth they are very suprised that considering everything we have that we are not always in the National Conversation for Championships.. so hate to say it, but not #5,, No Way…
Loyal Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
3:20 pm
OH by the way…Suck it Buckeyes!!!! CHEATERS
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
3:22 pm
This is not a SEC blog it is a the best coaching job in college football. Do you understand that or should I just pay for the pizza and get you off my porch.
The Man
June 3rd, 2011
3:23 pm
I would rather have the coach that does the better job than the coach that is perceived as having the better job. But as usual you got to give the dawg fans something to beat there chest about. The sale of “g” tags will go up this weekend now!
PMC
June 3rd, 2011
3:23 pm
It has been defense primarily in the last 5 years that has prevented Georgia from really doing anything.
The annual Florida loss prevents Georgia from becoming relevant nationally.
Bah Humbug
June 3rd, 2011
3:23 pm
Now rank the University that pays it’s coach the most and that is a better guage as to the best job.
tOSU Fan
June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm
Yeah Dawg – we are down now – but wait and see we will have a better record then you this year.
tosu will have a better record than
June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm
that ‘dream’ team from athens? it all depends if they are in jail or available to play on saturday.
Who cares?
June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm
Who F’N cares? UGA is a joke of a college.
DUHUGA
June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm
we dont need to rank em we number one no matter wat youall say
Bama Man
June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm
Where else can one under achieve and still keep their job. Of course UGA is a better job…..I wish I had a job where there was no reprecussion for lack of production……
PMC
June 3rd, 2011
3:25 pm
Penn State is intriguing.
Time
June 3rd, 2011
3:26 pm
LOL, I see all the insects are out today.
I’d say the rankings are just about right. Except I’d replace Ohio State with Bama and drop OU to 5th, moving up UF and UGA a spot. UGA (and Richt) will get it’s NC here soon enough. All one has to do is take a look around SEC rosters, and then NFL rosters, to know that the UGA job is easily a top 5 job.
Bama
June 3rd, 2011
3:26 pm
Is La-Monroe all you got? Yeah that game sucked…but all Bama has done since then is go 37-6 with a SEC and MNC title. What has UGA done during that time frame? That’s what I thought.
keith
June 3rd, 2011
3:27 pm
Well done, Jeff. You worked hard today – must have been tough going through espn.com articles. You’ve earned the weekend off.
the last 5 years are down for uga?
June 3rd, 2011
3:30 pm
last time i looked its like uf 27 uga 3 over the last 30 years.
over the last 30 years how many sec titles does uga have? how many national championships? even gt has an nc in 1990.
and yes gt is no uga. uga dominates tech on all levels… no of fans recruiting money state flagship yet….. uga sucks donkey nipples every year.
they are such an embarrassment that the biggest bet going on in las vegas re the dawgs is how many players will be arrested. tooooo funny,
DUHUGA
June 3rd, 2011
3:30 pm
we anit lookin at the college we lookin at the football team. the football team is good.
gdawginkalamazoo
June 3rd, 2011
3:30 pm
RTR, that statistic just tells you that there is nothing worth stealing in Tuscaloosa! Ha!
Okay that crystal football would be worth stealing since we don’t have one. Yet?
jasont13
June 3rd, 2011
3:31 pm
Loyal Dawg, I’ve lived all over the US and people know about UGA and UGA football. Just the other day I was coming off a 12 hour layover and was walking to the gate at the Moline, IL airport and a TSA agent saw my UGA ‘G” sticker on my chart case and asked how I thought the Dawgs would be this year. I get questions like these all the time when I’m in different cities.
Dave
June 3rd, 2011
3:34 pm
I understand. At Alabama they expect wins. Georgia, not so much.
GTFANFROM1951
June 3rd, 2011
3:34 pm
18. Arizona State.
19. Arizona.
20. Oklahoma State
Do these still play football? You should not try to write after a night on the town or it just shows how far SI has fallen.
Objective observer
June 3rd, 2011
3:35 pm
So what Andy Staples is saying in a roundabout way is that Saban is a much better coach than Richt.
Just think what UGA could have accomplished had they not mistakenly hired Goff, Donnan and Richt.
Joolio
June 3rd, 2011
3:35 pm
The longer Mark Richt stays, the less desirable the job at Georgia becomes. It’s losing stature because of the way Richt has dropped UGA out fo the National conversation by his lack of accomplishment over the last few years and the terrible direction of the program for the last 3.
Reebok
June 3rd, 2011
3:39 pm
As a Tech fan, I would definitely concede that Georgia a top 15 opportunity, maybe a top 10…but better than Alabama, Auburn or Southern Cal? Not sure about that…anyway, happy Friday to all college football fans out there!
Dave
June 3rd, 2011
3:39 pm
I grew up in Southern California. I knew about Alabama and Auburn and even L.S.U. Big games were U.S.C. and Notre Dame, U.S.C. and U.C.L.A.; Ohio State, Michigan; Oklahoma, Texas. Didn’t know Georgia had a team.
jasont13
June 3rd, 2011
3:40 pm
Joolio, the last 3 years? Lets see…2008. Pre-season #1 ranking, won 10 games and played in the Capital One Bowl. Sounds like another school I’ve heard of….
npgator
June 3rd, 2011
3:40 pm
The reason that the Georgia job is appealing is because you can lose and keep your job.
jasont13
June 3rd, 2011
3:41 pm
Dave your a moron!
Diesel
June 3rd, 2011
3:44 pm
I don’t know, the way things are going, Georgia isn’t even on the minds of writers or recruits these days.
2007 11 wins
2008 10 wins
2009 8 wins
2010 6 wins
2011 4 wins?
Jeff M
June 3rd, 2011
3:46 pm
What this dolt doesn’t point out is programs like bama nd usc etc can go ANYWHERE and get top 10 recruits. Uga can’t. That right there is reason enough to put them ahead of uga. This is one stupid article imo.
DIT
June 3rd, 2011
3:48 pm
@Dave – I was born in Los Angeles and lived there through part of my teenage years. I knew who UGA was! You must have been under a rock!
O'Leary
June 3rd, 2011
3:48 pm
Georgia shouldn’t be in the top 5 or 10. Top 20, yes. Easy to get players due to easy academics. Bigger school, bigger fan base, more money. Just sayin
Arlo
June 3rd, 2011
3:49 pm
I would bump Ohio State, but the rest seem probable.
gdawginkalamazoo
June 3rd, 2011
3:51 pm
Dave, “Didn’t know Georgia had a team.”
That okay Dave, some people are just slower than others when it comes to learning about the finer things in life.
Bruce Mac
June 3rd, 2011
3:53 pm
Suckers, you are a straight up idiot. How do you lose 18 out of 21 when you have only coached at the school for 10 years. I guess you went to Bama to learn your analytical skills DA.
Dawglasville
June 3rd, 2011
3:55 pm
You Bama guys are funny. “We wouldn’t accept this” and “we wouldn’t put up with being mediocre” and yet you put up with being a mediocre school located in a mediocre state. So you guys are real tough on your football coach but really could care less about your school president or if you ever have anything else going for you other than a race track.
Mike
June 3rd, 2011
3:55 pm
I think coachesbythenumbers.com ranks these as well. Check them out:
http://coachesbythenumbers.com/
They have Ohio State as the top job.
gratefuldawghead
June 3rd, 2011
3:56 pm
If Richt has another year like last year…Maybe we could get a TOP 5 COACH!
Wayne
June 3rd, 2011
3:56 pm
What an idiot……….how the hell does this crap get published/
and the evidence continues to pile up
June 3rd, 2011
3:57 pm
as to why richt has to go…..
Joey
June 3rd, 2011
4:00 pm
“They (Auburn) can pay a handsome salary and have plenty left over to pay offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn $1.3 million a year to turn down the head coaching job at Vanderbilt. This is critical, and it is a common factor among all the schools listed so far. Any school willing to shell out for quality assistants is serious about winning.”
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Not to mention the player pay-scale. $8000-$15,000 for signees. Over $180,000 for Cam (sorry, the money Auburn offered was too much) Newton.
That’s what I call “serious about winning” . . .
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
4:01 pm
DAWGS shock the world this year. First the SEC East, then the SEC Crown, and then who knows…dare I say
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:02 pm
Who cares?
Obviously you do…and all your little androgynous buddies who like to throw anonymous sucker punches from your keyboards while you giggle and punch each other in the arm.
Why so smug? You fellers are only Beaver and Buttface’s who attend Calculus and Astro-physics classes.
Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville
June 3rd, 2011
4:03 pm
Ohio State should not be #2
Above Alabama yes but #2 come on
What is this infatuation with Ohio State they were given the NC against Miami their 1st in over 3 decades they cant beat an SEC school
FL should be #1 ahead of Texas. I hate saying that but its true
UGA could be #3 but we have too many fans like DAWG and Altamaha Dawg who love to lose to FL and except it as normal.
They’re just happy to have 10 wins
Dawglasville
June 3rd, 2011
4:03 pm
Dave – Well, if our star running back would have killed some people, or if our star wide receiver would have received a house under the table, maybe we would be as well known as USC.
PTC DAWG
June 3rd, 2011
4:04 pm
After Texas, you could put the other 9 in any order in the top 10 at times.
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
4:05 pm
Any objective opinion has the Dawgs in the hunt for the EAST. We will get it this year – no doubt in my mind.
Jerry
June 3rd, 2011
4:08 pm
Mike, I am a subscriber to coachesbythenumbers and they do indeed have every kind of coaching info you need. They also rank the jobs as you said. Alabama actually comes in at #5 and UGA at #8. They seem to use a more analytical approach whereas some of these writers are more opinion based.
http://coachesbythenumbers.com/analysis/
Redneck Spokesman
June 3rd, 2011
4:09 pm
Left out again. Not a damn word about the Redneck Nation being big Dawg fans. That ought to count for something towards being #5.
Chi Town
June 3rd, 2011
4:12 pm
Listening to mutt fans makes me think I should just go ahead and cancel my vacation to Destin this summer and just go hang out in Athens.
I would get to see Sanford & Son Stadium and where Michael Gay Stype got his start.
As the Barn would say, ” ALL IN”
Dumbo
June 3rd, 2011
4:14 pm
Techies…go suck on the toes of Boobman on North Ave.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:16 pm
Somebody shock Al Groh and see if he’s still alive!
Evansdawg
June 3rd, 2011
4:18 pm
Historically, UGA is not ahead of ND, Michigan, or Penn State…but presently, their rankings in this article are probably spot on. They are nowhere near where they once were.
Junior Samples
June 3rd, 2011
4:19 pm
may be time to wake up the echos…bring back lou bwahahahahaha
Herschel Talker
June 3rd, 2011
4:24 pm
cantondawg:
Dan Mullen would be just fine.
HT
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
4:27 pm
Results. It’s all about results. As I look at the poll Georgia is ranked fifth. Obviously, the teams ranked higher have won the national championship. But the disburbing thing for Georgia fans is most of the teams ranked below the Dawgs have won national titles as well and we haven’t despite our vast resources. To be specific in the last 25 years according to your poll, the only programs not to win a national title besides Georgia, are Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oklahoma St., and Virginia Tech. We Georgia fans would like to regard ourselves as a major player for the title every year, but the truth is we are not. There are numerous reasons why Georgia has not reached the ultimate goal in the last quarter century. But one of the fundamental reasons begin with a only 3 wins in the last 21 years in Jacksonville. Repeated poor performances versus the Gators has cost the Dawgs dearly. I have some very eye opening information and it’s alarmly accurate and true. From 1974 through 1989 Georgia won 13 out of 16 games versus Florida in Jacksonville. For that period of domination the Dawgs achieved “1” national title and “4″ pre-merger SEC titles. ZERO national titles or SEC Championship were won by Florida while Georgia ruled the series at that time. Now let’s look at Florida from 1990 through 2010, the Gators have won 18 out of 21 games vs. the Dawgs. During this ongoing period of utter domination, the Gator have cashed in on “3″ national titles and and a whopping post merger “8″ SEC titles. During this period Georgia has “zerO” national titles and only winning “2″ post merger SEC titles. So there it is my fellow Dawgs the facts speak for themselves. We won’t get any real national recognition until UGa. gets back to winning versus it’s major rival: The Florida Gators. It’s going to take time and it’s going to take change.The Florida Gators would not wait for their coach to go 2-8 versus Georgia before terminating him even if he walked on water and healed the sick. It’s time for the Georgia BulldogNation to STAND UP and UNIFY and make the tough decisions needed to reclaim our pride and self respect for the honor and glory of ole Georgia. We must start winning games versus Florida again by “ANY MEANS NECESSARY” (morally and legally) for the program to get back to where it needs to be !! No more EXCUSES !!! We have done it before and we WILL do it again through hard work and sacrifice. Unproductive underachieving resulting in unacceptable outcomes for the program must be stopped and those responsible must be weeded out from the top to the bottom immediately if we want to be great ! No matter what anyone says or we’ve taken the Florida Gators best shot for the last 20 years and WE STILL ARE THE DOMINATE PROGRAM with 47 wins 40 losses and two ties vs. UF !!! Y’all must have forgot. We cannot continue to hesitate to eliminate the mediocrity thats dragging a one proud program down. Drink the POWER-aid and throw away the kool/fool-aid and let’s start winning the big game and championships again.
Deputy Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
4:29 pm
Shouldn’t Georgia Tech be ranked somewhere around 14 or 15? Oh wait, I forgot about those free hot dogs and cokes with cheap tickets.
Herschel Talker
June 3rd, 2011
4:29 pm
Atticus:
Dan Mullen would suit me just fine. Anything would be an upgrade over worthless Richt. We’re in for another pathetic 5+ loss season this year, but there is a light in 2012. Mullen, Kirby, or even Mickey Mouse would be an upgrade over doofus Richt.
HT
Slick
June 3rd, 2011
4:31 pm
Since the topic was better jobs I think the author got it about right. Bama fans calm down. Staples didn’t say UGA was a better program currently. He didn’t say UGA was a better program historically. But it might, in fact, be a better job for exactly the reasons he lists.
Now my questions is this: Is Nick Saban really that small? Richt is like towering over him in that pic.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:34 pm
Dan Mullen has done no better in his first two years than Richt did in his.
King Gator
June 3rd, 2011
4:35 pm
Dan Mullen will be the next coach at OSU! BUCKEYE!! Go Gators!
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:36 pm
“Is Nick Saban really that small? Richt is like towering over him in that pic.”
Yeah, that and another little thing is why he feels the need to compensate.
the real Old Gold
June 3rd, 2011
4:45 pm
This list is terrible and worthless.
jennifer
June 3rd, 2011
4:45 pm
UGA is an ideal coaching job. The fans are satisfied with mediocrity and there’s no pressure to win. Just show up, and talk about Jesus. If Saban put out a performance like Richt year after year, he’s be in the road to a position with a directional Louisiana university.
boots
June 3rd, 2011
4:48 pm
I am surprised the quality of life in Athens is not a plus for UGA. Athens is a much larger and vibrant town than it was 20 and 40 years ago. It is a great place to live and raise a family for a coach. I’ve been to both Auburn and Tuscaloosa several times, and I would rather not live there no matter how much I am paid. As far as Tennessee goes, it is hard to see them ranked this high after they had such a hard time keeping a sleeze-bag of a coach and then hiring another coach to take his place.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:48 pm
Signings capped at 25. I would like to see a maximum of 22 a year. Then you would have to hit on 77% of your recruits staying on the team whether they are any good or not. Make it interesting. Your point is seven! CRAPS!!
boots
June 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm
Oh, and why does it look like CMR has a mohawk in the picture??? I am a fan of the guy, but he seriously needs a new hair style.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:54 pm
Home values in Tuskaloosa went on the upswing recently. Hook ‘er up Bubba and drag ‘er down the lane.
david
June 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm
Great comment Jennifer! You have excellent insight. Roll Tide
Honky Talkin'
June 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm
Georgia over Alabama?? You’ve got to be kidding me.
gt
June 3rd, 2011
4:56 pm
The whole list is ridiculous. One of the reasons Tressel at OSU had to quit is he had to cheat to win. How can that be the second best job in college football. Any national publication is going to rank or pick where the population is and readers are. Pays for a lot of hot air. Richt by all measure should have the best job if he would just do it. He gets to pick who comes to his school so their is really no need to cheat. He could have the budget to pay assistants to do the heavy lifting if any thought he was good enough to work for. I think if you took a vote of assistant coaches who may pay a little more realistic look at this kind of stuff, you would find some very surprising schools in the top 10. I truly believe Tech has a better coaching staff than Georgia only because Georgia has decided that is how they want it. The day Georgia decides to clean house and match the coaching with the players all bets are off.
Steve
June 3rd, 2011
4:57 pm
“So the SEC East’s best jobs get a slight nod over the SEC West’s best jobs only because the competition doesn’t seem so cutthroat in the East.”
LMAO. The SEC West has been tougher than the East one out of what.. the last eight years or so. The weakness of the West is the primary reason three teams in that division have won NC’s recently, as they typically haven’t been as deep .. which means fewer tough games. And before you western nutcases go ballistic, just look at the records of your top tier teams versus the East over the last decade and compare it to the East’s top teams versus the West. At one point LSU was barely over .500, Alabama was under .500 and Auburn was only slightly better than them both. Meanwhile, Florida, SC and UT all had significantly bettter records, and Georgia was right in the ballpark with Auburn.
Of course, the whole balance certainly has shifted recently. 2 years ago the West was arguably better and last year it was significantly better. Might be their turn to go on a run of dominance.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 3rd, 2011
4:57 pm
Seems like this list was based a lot on money made. Not sure it doesn’t need to be more based on location of campus and a heavier emphasis put on that. Money is the driving force though for most college sports.
Hit A Single
June 3rd, 2011
4:58 pm
The Georgia job is a good one because Vince Dooley and Mark Richt have made it one by being the class act they are.
Ace
June 3rd, 2011
4:58 pm
Having losing or mediocre season is ok at UGA, just look at the current situation…
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June 3rd, 2011
4:59 pm
What was the score the last time ga played bama? That’s what I thought.
Richt`s Hammer
June 3rd, 2011
5:00 pm
I was talking to choakdawg in the bathroom and he said Tennessee will probably beat us by 30 this year. I hit him with my purse.
Central Fla
June 3rd, 2011
5:00 pm
um what did we do to you and you think you are a top 10 program? Yeah right.
Mike
June 3rd, 2011
5:16 pm
I have a few problems with this list. Here goes mine:
1. Texas. No argument. They are the best job in CFB
2. Florida – I hate UF but they are the SEC member flagship University in the most talent rich state in the country.
3. LSU – For the reasons listed above. Tons of talent with no in state compettion
4. USC – Best program in one of the best talent rich areas in the country
5. Georgia – Agree with everything said above
6. Alabama
7. Oklahoma – Great program/facilities but the instate talent puts them at a disadvantage to the schools above
8. Ohio St – Look in spite of what they say the B10 just isn’t as attractive as it used to be. The talent is in the south
9. Florida St – With the right coach they are a top 3 job
10. Miami (FL) – Even without the facilities of other top programs Miami is here because they have more NFL caliber talent within 50 miles of campus than any other program in the country by far. If they had more money they’d be the #1 job in the country.
11. Penn St – See Ohio St
12. Auburn
13. Nebraska – See Oklahoma except OU is close to TX
14. Tennessee – Great facilities but instate talent is lacking.
15. UCLA – If they ever got it together they’d be much higher on the list
16. Notre Dame – Very similar to a B10 school but still have the ND name
17. Texas A&M – See UCLA
18. North Carolina – Butch Davis proving you can get talent there
19. Michigan – See Notre Dame
20. Clemson – Great facilities, good instate recruiting, close to FL and GA. Could be a lot higher.
SEC FAN>
June 3rd, 2011
5:23 pm
I think this is a good list, if you take his criteria of money, recruiting grounds, pressure etc…The thing is though, the Big 6 in the SEC Bama,AU, LSU, UGA, UF, and UT are all about the same..They all have big money alumni, great facilites, good history , passionate fans…I really think UGA is probably the easiest job. You are the state school and your rival GA Tech, really can’t get the same type players…Johnny Majors used to say the AU job was the best because of where it is located…you will get about half the alabama kids, your only 30 minutes to the GA state line ( 2 hour drive to ATL) and only about 3.5 hours to the FL panhandle…
tiger7_88
June 3rd, 2011
5:23 pm
Thank you, @Joey (June 3rd, 2011, 4:00 pm)… this thread would never have been complete without a butthurt, whining dawgie chipping in on Auburn. LOL!
KISS THE RING BEEYOTCH!
BabsTolstoy
June 3rd, 2011
5:24 pm
Maybe Staples can do a ranking of the most underachieving programs as well, those with the most resources in terms of recruiting territory, fan support and fervor, and cash on hand to pay the help. Oh, and also lacking Championships of the recent BCS kind. I think Ga. would do well on that one also. Probably weigh in at No. 1. Off the top of my head I can’t think of a program that does so little with so much.
Mike
June 3rd, 2011
5:27 pm
Good points Powerade….and here are some others for us DAWG fans to digest about CMR the Savior…..
During the past several years UGA is:
.500 in SEC play. That’s right…..500 in conference competition.
2-8 against Florida
Under .500 vs top 25 teams
Have losses to UCF, Colorado, Mississippi State, Vandy, Kentucky (twice)
Have gotten blown out twice by non-bowl Tennessee teams
These events aren’t ‘one year’ events. They are a pattern of a sinking program and our fans don’t want to acknowledge. 2-8 against Florida is enough reason to terminate your head coach at UGA. Add in the rest of this and how he is keeping his job is just mind numbing…..yet our fans seem to think it is unfair that he is on the hot seat.
Want to know why places like Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, etc..etc… are better programs vs better jobs? Its because at Alabama you don’t get a chance to go 2-8 vs AU, .500 in conference, and have losing records vs the top 25…..do that at Alabama and your arse is sent packing because they care more about winning than we do.
SEC FAN>
June 3rd, 2011
5:30 pm
Can you imagine Saban at UGA? The thing is, Mike Adams would hate for a dictator coach to be there under his watch..Adams wants to be the man.
BiggdawgK
June 3rd, 2011
5:40 pm
How far will ohio st plummet when they get hammered with sanctions? With the way the hypocrite cheateye fan base is attacking T Pryor, it is only a matter of time before he bites back and starts naming names.
All together now. LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
5:45 pm
Everybody knows the grass is greener in Louisiana.
Have a chew?
Tideman
June 3rd, 2011
5:54 pm
@ Tim Tebow Jr………..You called Auburn a one horse town & very depressing? Surely you have driven thru East Gainesville. That’s a really great area, right ???
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:07 pm
So Tide Rising , Bear would have been fired after after the 1970 season? And Stallings got you put on probation.
SEC didn't go nearly far enough with 'oversigning' | Jeff Schultz
June 3rd, 2011
6:08 pm
[...] Earlier post: SI says Richt has a better job than Saban (Alabama) [...]
Dr. Phil
June 3rd, 2011
6:13 pm
Is Adams’ insistance on a pure white bulldog in keeping with his politically-correct image? Russ has proven a loyal and worthy mascot. Reject him at the risk of a curse.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm
Not many UGa fans would not mind if its current football coaching regime went 9-4 this season. And if they do go 9-4 it would be significant whether or not r it includes a win over rebuilding UF or not. I’ve already covered that issue & I’m going to move on to another problem facing UGa. Adams and Garrity have their poker faces on. The vibe I’m feeling is Garrity, a old school Dawg, turned Gator, turned Dawg again deep, deep down inside really doesn’t want to retain Richt, thus the hot seat has been custom fitted and designed for Richt this year while Greg Garity watched its construction through the blinds. GG is getting to know Michael Adams through this situation. Adams was willing to go one more year with Richt after a 6-7 season only because of his overall won-loss record and he feared retribution from the moral majority segment of UGa’s fanbase if he pulled the trigger too soon. And he felt he owed to that moral majority to tough out one more year with a proven second-rate coaching regime. Pontus Pilate Adams is washing his hands and feet in the proverbial bowl of water. Meanwhile Richt is under tremendous pressure and feeling the heat, which is causing him to act out character. He’s running key players out of the program, cursing, selling off assets and pinning all dreams of escaping the hot seat on a freshman crop of inexperienced players. Clear signs that there is panic on in Athens. If he can squeeze out 9 wins this year he still can’t win because that will drive expectations sky high for 2012 with the delusional, fanatical moral majority fanbase that truly believes Richt can stand on water. The end is near Adams and GG know it and Richt knows as well. So what will happen? If Richt wins 8 or 9 games I can see him throwing his name in the hat at the OSU, once MA and GG refuse to give him a long-term extension and huge buyout at the end of 2011. Hopefully the OSU will rush to grab MR, because he would be just what they need to preach and teach the virtues of morality and clean southern living to the tatted infidels there. Richt won’t beat Michigan but 2 out 10 meetings and he may not win any national titles, but he might win a Big 10 for the people at the OSU. But that’s not why you hire MR anyway, you hire a MR to bring in a good upright, genuine Christian man to right the listing ship and be everything the OSU thought had by deception with the sweater vest man.
Bawbie
June 3rd, 2011
6:18 pm
FIRE PERNO! Dawgs lose to freakin Creighton
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
6:20 pm
Russ ain’t exactly got the best record…though a DGD.
Bawbie
June 3rd, 2011
6:22 pm
Perno cant coach in tight games. He paces the dugout like a caged spider monkey in a zoo.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
6:25 pm
Mike : I agree with you 100%. You have given us more important information to consider. Great job. Bravo, Bravo and ………GO DAWGS !!! BEAT UF !!!
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:37 pm
Have to laugh at the resurgent Bama fans , Since Richt arrived at UGA you have a losing record 1-3, you finished in the top 10 less, and you only have 1 SEC championship and 1 MNC. You act as though you’ve play for the National Championship or win the SEC on an annual basis. Fact is the majority of your SEC championships came prior to 1980 since then UGA has won 4 bama has won 5. Since 1995 your program has been on probation more years that it hasn’t.(still on probation through 2012) had to vacate 30 wins and been put on post season bowl ban 3 times. Bear was a hell of a coach in the 60 and 70’s but most of you would’ve fired him after back to back 6-5 seasons.
LOL
June 3rd, 2011
6:39 pm
Its a better job than Bama because ITS NOT IN BAMA. Who would want to live in that septic tank if they didn’t have to or get paid well? No one.
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:39 pm
Bama is 3-7 over past 10 vs Auburn.
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
6:57 pm
Cornhusker, SI don’t give your school much credit as a top 20 destination.
All things considered though, it looks like the SEC is still the best place to be a head coach.
Yeah, there is some debate, but living in Dixie is great if you love football.
You corn fed players have a rich tradition, but there ain’t nothing between Nebraska
and the North Pole but a barbed wire fence in the winter, and who wants to brag on how
hot things get. Yep, we got it good. SEC rules.
JBT
Carl
June 3rd, 2011
7:04 pm
UGA better than Bama, Michigan and Notre Dame? Right. Did that Sports Illustrated writer graduate from UGA?
hey BiggdawgK
June 3rd, 2011
7:13 pm
are you as stupid as you sound? probably so. i am sure you are as dumb as you look … with that little drool of ‘backee juice down the middle of your chins.
maybe the buckeye fans are attacking prior cause they dont like what he has done to our program? ya think? just a thought.
after all most fans that have any kind of scruples (want me to define that word for ya?) would expect their star qb to be a leader not a ring leader.
now how about some fries before you clean up the mess in the john!
Disgusted with Richt
June 3rd, 2011
7:14 pm
A few comments:
1. Four different SEC teams have won the last five BCS championships.
2. UGA was not one of those teams.
3. During that period, UGA did not win the SEC championship.
4. During that period, UGA did not even win its SEC division.
5. Red panties.
In other words, UGA has sunk into total irrelevancy both regionally and nationally.
So why is UGA paying Mark Richt millions of dollars a year?
Sharkman
June 3rd, 2011
7:21 pm
Sounds about right.
Hair today, gone tomorrow
June 3rd, 2011
7:25 pm
Q: What do Mark Richt’s hair and UGA’s BCS hopes have in common?
A: They’re both fading fast.
bamaguy
June 3rd, 2011
7:40 pm
Actually, Carl, I believe his mother graduated from Alabama and he played football at Florida (Andy Staples).
The list was “best place to coach (be employed)” not “school with most championships”. It appears to me, from the outside looking in, that UGA is a great place to make millions. Just be a good southern fundamentalist christian man and the fan base will defend you to the end. Nick Saban goed to Mass every Sunday. But in the deep south that doesn’t count.
But I am obviously prejudiced.
FSUFalcon
June 3rd, 2011
7:51 pm
oklahoma state? puleeases…they have never won a darn thing…have only beaten ou about 12 times i their history, never been a bcs or major bow game…they are more like kentucky..
Tell the truth
June 3rd, 2011
8:00 pm
Ga the 5th best coaching job in America??? Are those monkeys flying all across the metro sky???
Laughable!!
Dawg Biskitz
June 3rd, 2011
8:03 pm
UGA corch has it made, because he has no expectations to live up to, but like most of his supporters say, “he’s such a great guy”.
And OS # 2? Absurd. OS = Thug U.
Football Dad
June 3rd, 2011
8:05 pm
Oregon has to be in the top 5. I realize that thier success is recent, however, I think they have the momentum to top this list in the near future. The athletic facilities at Oregon are far superior to ANY other program in college football…period…they are establishing recruiting pipelines in Ca and Tx as well nationally. Traditionally no…but in the present, which I believe is the gravamon of this article, Oregon is a better football program than UGA because of the Nike influence and facilities.
Blackoutanyone?
June 3rd, 2011
8:13 pm
The Alabama fan base would like to take this opportunity to apologize for its unrealistic expectations. Demanding and expecting excellencence…. please forgive us. Roll Tide
joe taxpayer
June 3rd, 2011
8:22 pm
It should be number 1 its the only head coach job where being a good man is more inportant than winning.
Let NONE in
June 3rd, 2011
8:31 pm
Paul Revere rode a horse to tell the British of the colonists plans. Paul Revere or Paul Stanley…I can’t remember.
U guys r hilarious!
June 3rd, 2011
9:42 pm
U guys r frigin hilarious!!!
Some ja’moke at SI gives his/her opinion on the best jobs in college coaching, and u all are clamoring over it like it’s actually fact!
What happens when some tool writing for Athlon’s says UGA is the best job in college football.
I’m kinda surprised said ja’moke at SI didn’t rank the SEC jobs 1 thru 12!
U guys r funny!
It is what it is...
June 3rd, 2011
10:24 pm
Is Alabama 47th or 49th in education? That says it all.
It is what it is...
June 3rd, 2011
10:35 pm
How many of of the Roll Tide faithful, actually prefer to live in Georgia? If you rednecks (yes, Rednecks) think Alabama is such a Garden of Eden, why do you prefer to live in Georgia? For all of you that live in Georgia, but boast that your home state is superior, please get out of my state. We don’t want you, and we certainly are a more clean state without you.
funny...
June 3rd, 2011
11:25 pm
Georgia might be even higher. All the listed qualities from above, conference, recruites, money, stadium, campus, and number of alumni donations are top notch, but Georgia has one advantage over all the other top schools. They demand national championships Georgia fans just want to be good. Win 10 games a year, shots at the SEC championships, and a few BCS games here and there and you’re the man (or Richt), just dont screw that up
lumpy
June 4th, 2011
12:00 am
I wouldn’t be beating my chest just yet if I were a ugag fan, last time you made a SI list in 2008, you started out as Number 1 and we all know how that ended….
Class of 93
June 4th, 2011
12:40 am
Win the east or walk away to better things in you life Coach.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 4th, 2011
6:37 am
I don’t recall reading any place in this news article, where schedule or winning percentage had anything to do with how nice it is or isn’t to be at a certain college. Maybe the writer is from Georgia or something, but sounds like he thinks the campus, state and coaching situation is pretty good at UGA.
Bobby Walden
June 4th, 2011
7:21 am
When Rictus is fired in December, he and his wife should be tarred & feathered when they are evicted from Athens. He and his damn family have drained UGA of millions of dollars and have returned NOTHING.. What has befallen the program in the last several years was seen coming a long time before that. No true bulldawg he, Rictus finds chickens coming home to roost in that stupid Bart Simpson haircut.
FanSince59
June 4th, 2011
7:54 am
“The right choice can come and win”. Truer words were never spoken. One reason UGA’s job is a hell of a lot better then Alabama et al is because Alabama, Tenn, FL, Aub & LSU fans want to win a hell of a lot more then UGA fans. Their fans level of tolerance for a mediocrity is a lot less then that of UGA fans.
1eyedJack
June 4th, 2011
8:50 am
Still no brick through Mark Richt’s picture window. Coach Curry, how did you enjoy your stay in Tuskaloosa?
Saban
June 4th, 2011
8:57 am
Let`s see the last time I was in Athens we had the dawgs down by 30 at halftime and I got to play my b and c teams the rest of the game. Don`t believe I would want to coach there. I like natioal championships and without Russ there would be no chance.
Dawg Tired
June 4th, 2011
12:10 pm
One reason Georgia is a better job than Alabama is obvious: It’s not in Alabama.
Paul's Johnson says hey wait a minute
June 4th, 2011
5:15 pm
Why is GT not on the list! We have the best campus (if you want to get mugged or score crack) we have the prettiest best smelling girls (if you like curry and red dots) we have the best coach (if you like high school offenses) we have the best stadium (if you like itsy bitsy teeny weenie half empty ones) we have the best fans (if you like arrogant nerds) – the list is endless. Add us to the list or I will smack you in the mouth.
Genius Jacket
June 4th, 2011
6:59 pm
Tech should be in the Top 10!
All of our SAs take calculus and nuclear physics and are TRUE student athletes.
Boobie Bowden
June 4th, 2011
8:03 pm
A product of low expectations – the least of the east
Georgia Always Been Over Rated
June 4th, 2011
9:28 pm
Mark Richt never ever has or will win a National Title.
Mark Richt is..... below average coach
June 4th, 2011
9:31 pm
UGA is the new Vandy.
CHOKE! THE OFFICAL DRINK OF THE GEORGIA BULLDAWGS!
June 4th, 2011
9:38 pm
BAMA, LSU AND UF WINS NC TITLES! RICHT AND FLEA BAG NATION TALKS ABOUT TRYING TO WIN ONE!
Paul's Johnson says hey wait a minute
June 4th, 2011
11:04 pm
Don’t talk about UGA – smack them in the mouth – they OWN us.
D Bag Trolls!
June 5th, 2011
8:20 am
This should not be news to all of you little pea brains. This why you spend countless hours blogging with UGA on the brain. Wake up! UGA Rocks!
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 5th, 2011
8:25 am
Genius Jacket,
How would you figure that tech. should be in the top ten. List your criteria for such a statement. I don’t think you can , so you resort to childish banter with no substantial basis, as your reasoning. I would expect this from you though, but remember, jealousy can become a disease, when so much hate is applied.
D Bag Trolls!
June 5th, 2011
8:30 am
Btw, Who wants to live in bama. Saban is joke.
Camden Mark
June 5th, 2011
10:20 am
Only 6 SEC schools?
Snoop Dawg
June 5th, 2011
12:50 pm
Bulldog Nation,
Here is yet more convincing evidence that shows what a loser and fraud Mark Richt is. He is taking us down to the dregs in spite of all our competitive advantages. All you people with this irrational fetish about him are contributing to the University’s decay of its storied sports traditions and reputation. If you think that by doing this that you are somehow “loyal”, I strongly recommend you get psychological help.
Snoop Dawg
June 5th, 2011
12:53 pm
Folks,
Here’s more convincing evidence that Preacha Man Markt Wrecked is leading us to ruin. Those of you with this irrational love for this guy need psychiatric help. If you think this is being loyal to your school, you are crazy.
Snoop Dawg
June 5th, 2011
12:56 pm
Actually, UGA should be rated number one. Why? Because the alumni and fan base tolerate mediocrity and incompetence from it’s head coach while paying him millions of dollars every years. They think they are being loyal to their school by defending him against any and all criticism. Meanwhile, the football program has become the laughing stock of the SEC.
funny...
June 5th, 2011
1:02 pm
The article doesn’t say that Georgia is better than Alabama at football. I don’t expect the Alabama fans to understand this, they can’t read.
The article is stating that at Georgia you can have the money, status, fame, stadium, facilities, and spotlight as Alabama, Texas, etc, except you can go 6-7 and keep your job.
What a joke. Georgia is the best job in the nation. You can underachieve for 6 straight years and get a free pass to right the ship.
Richt hasn’t “earned” the right for one more year. He earned the right to be fired after the Liberty Bowl.
Richt has the same record as Donnan over the last five years of his career at Georgia, except Donnan wasn’t pretty for the cameras and fired.
Richt not only missed the chance to pass Florida in the SEC when they hired/fired Zook, he’s let a UT program in shambles pass Georgia, South Carolina has now passed Georgia, Kentucky is dangerously close to Georgia’s level, and he lost to Vanderbilt at home. Auburn and passed Georgia in the fast lane, Bama is Bama, LSU is always better than Georgia, State is better than Georgia, Arkansas laughed at Richt’s coaching last year, Ole Miss just sucks.
But Richt deserves another year.
Dancing in the endzone
Losing 4 of 5 in 2006, including VANDY at home
Getting waxed in Knoxville two straight trips
6-7
The Sugar Bowl murder in ATLANTA by WVU
Losing to Kentucky, ever, even worse at home
Player control and discipline
MIke Bobo
The LIberty Bowl
Still can’t beat Florida
Willie Martinez
The collapse against Tech two years ago
The loss to Florida this last year
The abortion of the 2008 season
Red-shirting Knowshon Moreno
Thinking Joe Tereshinkski III was a better QB than Matt Stafford
Actually playing Joe Cox
David Greene was AWESOME, but how much better was DJ Shockley
Again, The Liberty Bowl
….and Richt deserves another year? REALLY? REALLY?
Snoop Dawg
June 5th, 2011
1:24 pm
…and don’t forget scouting Cam Newton at College Park High School as “a potential tight end.”
Bamma Ramma
June 5th, 2011
1:51 pm
Ga job better than the Bama job? Get real–Saban makes almost $5 million, much more than Richt, has 1 title and will win more. Ga has no shot at a title. Bama has more tradition, more fans, better stadium, more money…. The list goes on and on.
Ed (The Original)
June 5th, 2011
4:10 pm
I’m as rabid a Georgia fan as anyone, but we top USC, Notre Dame and Alabama? We trail a school (UF) that went 59 years without even a conference title? I think the author was high on something when he made this list. Oklahoma State’s inclusion in the Top 20 was the icing on the cake.
null
June 5th, 2011
4:50 pm
Richt sucks, but she still takes all our bucks.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 5th, 2011
5:58 pm
Results. It’s all about results. As I look at the poll Georgia is ranked fifth. Obviously, the teams ranked higher have won the national championship. But the disburbing thing for Georgia fans is most of the teams ranked below the Dawgs have won national titles as well and we haven’t despite our vast resources. To be specific in the last 25 years according to your poll, the only programs not to win a national title besides Georgia, are Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oklahoma St., and Virginia Tech. We Georgia fans would like to regard ourselves as a major player for the title every year, but the truth is we are not. There are numerous reasons why Georgia has not reached the ultimate goal in the last quarter century. But one of the fundamental reasons begin with a only 3 wins in the last 21 years in Jacksonville. Repeated poor performances versus the Gators has cost the Dawgs dearly. I have some very eye opening information and it’s alarmly accurate and true. From 1974 through 1989 Georgia won 13 out of 16 games versus Florida in Jacksonville. For that period of domination the Dawgs achieved “1” national title and “4″ pre-merger SEC titles. ZERO national titles or SEC Championship were won by Florida while Georgia ruled the series at that time. Now let’s look at Florida from 1990 through 2010, the Gators have won 18 out of 21 games vs. the Dawgs. During this ongoing period of utter domination, the Gator have cashed in on “3″ national titles and and a whopping post merger “8″ SEC titles. During this period Georgia has “zerO” national titles and only winning “2″ post merger SEC titles. So there it is my fellow Dawgs the facts speak for themselves. We won’t get any real national recognition until UGa. gets back to winning versus it’s major rival: The Florida Gators. It’s going to take time and it’s going to take change.The Florida Gators would not wait for their coach to go 2-8 versus Georgia before terminating him even if he walked on water and healed the sick. It’s time for the Georgia BulldogNation to STAND UP and UNIFY and make the tough decisions needed to reclaim our pride and self respect for the honor and glory of ole Georgia. We must start winning games versus Florida again by “ANY MEANS NECESSARY” (morally and legally) for the program to get back to where it needs to be !! No more EXCUSES !!! We have done it before and we WILL do it again through hard work and sacrifice. Unproductive underachieving resulting in unacceptable outcomes for the program must be stopped and those responsible must be weeded out from the top to the bottom immediately if we want to be great ! No matter what anyone says or we’ve taken the Florida Gators best shot for the last 20 years and WE STILL ARE THE DOMINATE PROGRAM with 47 wins 40 losses and two ties vs. UF !!! Y’all must have forgot. We cannot continue to hesitate to eliminate the mediocrity thats dragging a one proud program down. Drink the POWER-aid and throw away the kool/fool-aid and let’s start winning the big game and championships again.
sldkfjslk
June 5th, 2011
6:14 pm
UGA is a better job than Alabama. Saban is doing a better job than Richt. Alabama is a backwards hellhole. They’re trying to make us look progressive with their new anti-immigration proposal. Since Atlanta was toasted (by the retreating Confederacy, not Sherman) Georgia has been ahead of the curve in the Southeast and has benefited economically. Georgia has a much higher population than Alabama. Georgia Tech is a decent in-state opponent but they really don’t compete for the same talent like Auburn does with Alabama for a much smaller pool of in-state talent. That being said, Richt is soft and the team plays soft. I don’t care what anyone says, Richt can’t cut it. Richt won’t turn it around. We have an easy schedule this year and if we lose 4 games he should be fired. Tennessee is pathetic but they play with heart, which is something I haven’t seen in Athens on a consistent basis in years. Maybe Richt needs to collaborate with Soulja Boy to get our team to Crank out another decent season. At least Richt has two hits while Soulja has only one. Florida is breaking in a new coach but we couldn’t beat Zook and Zook didn’t have a Super Bowl winning OC like Muschamp. Will may be a rookie head coach but he already knows more about hiring assistants than Richt does. Will went out and got someone who knows what he’s doing. Richt promoted a mediocre former UGA qb who looked good when he had the 2nd best qb in SEC history but looks pathetic in the last two years. Does anyone remember the first half of the 2009 LSU game. Everyone blames the A.J. Green crappy penalty celebration call for the loss but we had 1 first down in the first half. Bobo is a dud as an OC. Bobo vs. Weiss is a mismatch. We will continue to get schooled vs. Florida. South Carolina will manhandle us like they did last year, falling forward for 3 yards on every play while we go down like a glass menagerie. If we lose to a weak Auburn team Richt should be fired on the field and forced to walk out of the west endzone and head out of town. He might as well keep that lake house on Hartwell to retire. If Tech didn’t choke every year against us he would have been gone by now. If Tech was as good as they were during the late ’90s Richt would be gone by now. Richt’s teams play worse than Donnan’s teams ever did. Richt has embarrassed UGA with their pathetic display the last five years. Forget the 2nd place ranking in 2007. That was a mirage and an example of how NCAA football makes no sense in general. We beat a weak Florida team and a weak armed Auburn QB that year and that’s all. We got schooled by a mediocre Tennessee team in 2007 and dialed up a stinker against BLAKE MITCHELL. That’s right Blake Mitchell beat UGA.Pathetic. In 2006 we lost to Kentucky and Vandy in the same year. In 2008 we got killed by any decent team we played. We didn’t even show up against Alabama and Florida and the Tech game that year was just plain unforgivable. I’ve never seen a meltdown like that. But that goes back to support my claim that Richt can’t hire assistants and waits too long to make a move. Donnan would have never kicked a field goal on fourth and 1 against Central Florida. That is really the epitome of Mark Richt. He’s so soft that he’s scared of Central Florida. That is what Georgia football has come to, losing to Central Florida, while wasting the best receiver in SEC history. Richt has wasted the best QB in UGA history, the best RB since Herschel and the best WR in SEC history. Donnan was fired for losing four games. We’ll be lucky to win four games. Why do UGA people love our coach so much. I only keep typing so I can change the minds of ONE UGA fan. If you care about UGA, you don’t want Richt to coach our team any longer. He can’t get it done. We will always have plenty of talent. We will always put players in the NFL. There is no reason we should look like crap on the field. I’d give him a break if it looked like we played hard but we play soft and there is no excuse for that. This MUST be Richt’s last year at UGA. We can’t but up with any more mediocrity. We are better than that.
sldkfjslk
June 5th, 2011
6:37 pm
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade): We won’t do what you want us to do until Georgia donors stop acting like fools. Bullgators don’t take crap and demand excellence. Georgia donors act like every game is the Kentucky derby. It’s not surprising we’ve lost 2 games against the bluegrass state in the past five years. If UGA is a top five program, UGA should have a top five program. We’ll be lucky to have a top 20 program. Wake up people. Send Richt to Shady Acres or on an overseas mission. I don’t care. Just get him off the sidelines in Athens.
sldkfjslk's mother
June 5th, 2011
6:59 pm
I had no idea my son knew that many words.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 5th, 2011
7:09 pm
Not many UGa fans would not mind if its current football coaching regime went 9-4 this season. And if they do it would be significant whether or not it includes a win over rebuilding UF or not. I’ve already covered that issue & I’m going to move on to another problem facing UGa. Adams and Garrity have their poker faces on and have to say they are happy about the football crisis at UGA. They are lying to themselves and hating every minute of it. Truth is they know the remedy to the crisis is change, but it has to be handled very carefully. The vibe I’m feeling is Garrity, a old school Dawg, turned Gator, turned Dawg again deep, deep down inside really doesn’t want to retain Richt, thus the hot seat has been custom fitted and designed for Richt this year while Greg Garity watched its construction through the blinds. GG is getting to know Michael Adams through this situation, but wants to win asap at UGA. And GG knows from his time in Gainesville that the last thing UF wants to see is Richt’s departure from Athens. Adams was willing to go one more year with Richt after a 6-7 season only because of his overall won-loss record and he feared retribution from the reprobatic moral majority segment of UGa’s fanbase if he pulled the trigger too soon. Adams knows the Dawg fanbase is completely divided, but knows he is beholdened to the kool-aid sipping, power broker boosters which are infatuated even still with the Richt persona phenomenon. So felt he owed to that moral majority to appease them by toughing out one more year with a broken, proven second-rate coaching regime. Pontus Pilate Adams is washing his hands and feet in the proverbial bowl of water and asking GG to be patient and quiet. Meanwhile Richt is under tremendous pressure and feeling the heat, which is causing him to act out character. He’s running key players out of the program, cursing, selling off assets and pinning all dreams of escaping the hot seat on a freshman crop of inexperienced players and underachieving, poorly coached returning players. Clear signs that there is total panic on in Athens. If CMR can squeeze out 8 or 9 wins this year he still can’t win because that will drive expectations sky high for 2012 with the delusional, fanatical moral majority fanbase that truly believes Richt can stand on water. The bad news for the reprobates is the MR kool-aid machine is running on fumes at UGa. The end is near Adams and GG know it and Richt knows as well. So what will happen? If Richt wins 8 or 9 games I can see him throwing his name in the hat at the OSU or resigning, once MA and GG refuse to give him a long-term extension and huge buyout at the end of 2011. GG and MA wouldn’t have a problem with Richt leaving on his own terms after an 8 or 9 win season. For them to escape the acrimony of the CMR reprobates, GG & MA hope the OSU or some other program will rush to grab the CMR mess off their hands, because he would be just what they need to preach and teach the virtues of morality and clean southern living to the tatted infidels there. There MR, architect of the “Georgia Tradegy”, could pass out large cups of his patented brand of kool-aid punch guaranteed in time to cause mediocrity, division, chaos and confusion among the fanbase . At the OSU, Richt won’t beat Michigan but maybe 2 out 10 meetings and he may not win any national titles, but he might win a Big 10, to give them false hope and stimulate delusional dreams of bigger things to come, while cleaning them out at 3.5 million per year. But that’s not why you hire MR anyway, you hire a MR to bring in a good upright, genuine virtuous man to right the wrongs of the listing ship and be everything the OSU thought had by deception with the sweater vest man. Don’t forget about how relieved and overwhelmed with joy, Garrity or Adams would be with such an outcome. Then those two could happily accept applications at UGa at last, with no blood on their hands. But for UGa fans we will still have to pray that whomever GG and MA hire that he won’t read or repeat the book of Mark R.
Waynesboro
June 5th, 2011
7:36 pm
I would say UGA should be in the top 4. Oklahoma? They produce ZERO talent of their own and have to fight it out with OK State and Texas on an annual basis.
Just further proof of how hot Richt’s seat is this year.
Bobby Petrino
June 5th, 2011
8:24 pm
What about Louisville, I mean Arkansas !
Bawbie
June 6th, 2011
7:01 am
FIRE PERNO! He chokes again!
hammerhead
June 6th, 2011
8:42 am
And, of course, 790 The Zone took the article and the attention around it as an opportunity to dump on Georgia. And they wonder 680 The Fan kills them in the ratings.
bo staples
June 6th, 2011
8:48 am
Learn to write your own stuff. You are pretty good at copying and pasting.
Dawg Trainer
June 6th, 2011
8:57 am
A few things. I don’t give a tinker’s dam, Gainesville is, and shall always remain, Hogtown. That alone takes UF out of the running for best job. Tuscaloosa is in Alabama. That alone takes UA out of the running for best job. Matter of fact, Huntsville should ask to be annexed into either Tennessee or Georgia. Then we can kick Alabama out of the USA and replace them with Puerto Rico. Texas gets the best job nod.
UGA? Richt currently has the best job in college football. Sure, he’s beaten Tech and Tennessee (6-4, slightly above average) but is futile when it comes to Florida. The only saving grace about Fulmer is that he owned ‘Bama and Georgia. Florida, not so much. We were competitive most seasons though. Don’t see that with Florida-Georgia. Seems to my tired old eyes that the only team Richt dominates is Tech. That ain’t enough.
rock steady freddy
June 6th, 2011
9:15 am
That;s right! Aaroof!
DawginLex
June 6th, 2011
9:31 am
The Bama people conveniently forget about 1993-2007 when they won nothing, hired and fired multiple coaches and vacated 29 wins because of cheating.
Mike Dubose
Mike Price
Mike Shula
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 6th, 2011
10:16 am
There is a lot more than just wins and loses that make the job at UGA for an athletic coach, more desirable than the one at Alabama. I would think maybe one of those might be, that football does not consume the higher ups at UGA, as much as it does at Alabama, and a lot of other schools. Maybe it is the diversity of the schools, or maybe it is just the atmosphere at the different universities. I think the pressure on a coach at some of the other bigger universities is a lot higher that it is at UGA. Maybe that makes it easier for CMR to maintain his more ethical approach to coaching and leading young folks.
Unfortunately, with a lot of these kids coming into college on scholarships these days, the mentality to showcase their talents at the sacrifice of their education and even their loyalty to team mates and UGA, makes it harder for CMR to have any influence over these kids lives and shape them into better people. I think CMR is finding this out and has finally taken a firmer stand against misconduct than in previous years. But I still believe he has the support of the higher ups in trying to help out these kids, beyond just making them better players. The support he receives is the reason UGA is a better place to be than a lot of other institutions. Now, if UGA had more loyal fans, at least more loyal than most bloggers here, seem to be, it would be even nicer for a coach at UGA.
RDR
June 6th, 2011
1:16 pm
Just further evidence of how UGA is viewed nationally……as a top 10 program! For all the UGA detractors in the local market, you have two options – 1) keep obsessing over UGA and everything about the athletic program as well as nonathletic, or 2) accept the reality that most everyone in the country has come to recognize………..UGA is a great place to be! Go Dawgs!!
Chi Town
June 6th, 2011
5:12 pm
Puppy fans are so funny.
Cant wait for Boise State to come in and whip em at the Dome.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 6th, 2011
10:21 pm
Boise State goes before the NCAA enforcement Committee on Friday to answer to the charge of “Lack of Institutional Control”. And to think, they say the SEC is the only conference that has NCAA violations. That charge is one of the top offenses the NCAA gives out.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 6th, 2011
10:28 pm
Chi Town,
Maybe you could send that big ole mean University of Illinois down here to wup up on us rednecks also. Now there is a team to be proud of.
stat man
June 7th, 2011
2:07 pm
Difficult to rank the best jobs. Interesting stat that only 2 division I teams have not had a single NCAA violation. Penn State and Stanford are the only two teams. That sure sounds like the coaches are doing the right thing, Maybe we should rank the quality of the programs on graduation rates and other important stats and then rank how well the coaches do their jobs
atlvol55
June 7th, 2011
2:28 pm
Finally an article to what I have argued with my friends here in Atlanta for years.
This article is dead on except I’m not so sure I would have Oklahoma that high…but Texas, Ohio State, and Georgia have enormous advantages with in state talent. That is why by August each year, Ohio State and Texas will practically have their whole next year’s recruiting class already committed. No serious in state competition for great players.
Georgia is very similiar. Last year the state of Georgia had more players on scholarship than any other state of SEC schools. Yes, that includes players from Florida. Given all of the talent in Georgia (and no offense, GA TEch isn’t getting players that UGA wants in state), Georgia should have won a national championship or two in the last decade…
Despite Fulmer slipping, I always gave him major kudo’s for his recruting. In most of his classes, he would sign maybe three kids from the state of Tennessee. Its really hard to try and steal kids from Georiga, Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, but that was TN has to do to compete. TN just doesn’t have a large African-American (sans Memphis) population compared to the other southern states; hence why it doesn’t produce many D1 prospects
FACTS
June 7th, 2011
2:52 pm
Decent article…I’m at a lost for words when I see Arizona ST. on this list yes they have played teams like UGA a couple of times the last few yrs…..I just don’t see them making the list at any spot?????
funny...
June 7th, 2011
3:44 pm
To Real Dawgs Drink Power Aid:
I agree 100%.
The Georgia alumni and old school boosters are in the “Georgia must beat Tech” school of thought.
The newer Georgia students and alumni will change that to “Georgia must beat Florida”
The powers that be at Georgia still think of Florida as the Kentucky of Florida, and they’re idiots.
Tidewatch
June 7th, 2011
9:49 pm
LincolntonDawg,your slap at Alabama high schoool talent is off target. THREE native Alabamians (jones,Dareus,and Fairley) were drafted in the first round this year. That’s a little better than Kansas did. Maybe Georgia too.
macrotech
June 8th, 2011
4:10 pm
SI cracks me up…the ONLY legitimate thing they put out there is the swimsuit edition…the rest of it just plays homage to the bookies in Vegas. This list is speculative….as supported by all the posts…enjoy!
The Commish
June 8th, 2011
4:50 pm
I would think Miami should be on this list somewhere?
BobDawg
June 9th, 2011
10:29 pm
Buckeye, Have you ever been to the “Classic City”??? Athens is quite a city now and hosts International Conferences and tons of Arts/music etc…. Anyway, the #5 ranking is why I don’t worry about the Dawgs and Richt.. Everything will take care of itself in due time.
Tide Rising- Hope T-Town is coming back around after the storms… I just read the SI article and really sad…BTW… didn’t you guys lose 5 straight a while back to the Barners??? It all goes in cycles doesn’t it???