SI says Richt (UGA) has a better job than Saban (Alabama)
Does Mark Richt really have the fifth-best coaching job (two spots ahead of Nick Saban)?
Somebody at Sports Illustrated just came up with their list of the 20 best college football coaching jobs in the nation. Not surprisingly, Georgia made the list. Given its history, stature, conference, recruiting base and overflowing cash drawer, I’ve always considered it a top 10 job.
But No. 5 overall? Ahead of Alabama? As well as Penn State, USC and Notre Dame?
That’s the opinion of Andy Staples, who tackled this subject because of the current state of affairs at Ohio State (which is No. 2 on the list). I’m not going to copy-paste the entire article here, but here’s what Staples had to write about Georgia, as well as excerpts on the other SEC and ACC teams on the top 20 list of “most desirable jobs.” His reasons for having the Dogs so high are worthy, and also reaffirms why there is focus on coach Mark Richt this season.
Staples on the Dogs:
Want to know why Mark Richt is on the hot seat despite six seasons with at least 10 wins since 2001? Because Georgia has the resources to be in the national title hunt every season. The Bulldogs just finished a major football facility upgrade, and they play in one of the nation’s iconic stadiums. They have plenty of money. In terms of recruit preference, the Bulldogs rule a state that cranks out 90-100 BCS AQ-conference signees each year. Theoretically, Georgia should have its pick of those players, but Bulldogs coaches can’t always stop Alabama, Auburn, Clemson and Florida State from cherry-picking some of the state’s top recruits. Unlike Florida or Alabama, which must fight off in-state rivals, Georgia recruits on a different level than Georgia Tech. The situation is more comparable to Texas and Texas A&M, which is why Georgia fans had a right to be dismayed that the Bulldogs had to win last year’s installment of Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate just to pull even with the Yellow Jackets at 6-6 on the regular season. (Never mind the Liberty Bowl loss to Central Florida.) Put simply, this is a great job for Richt if he can return to his early 2000s dominance. If Richt can’t, the right choice can come in and win big in Athens.
It seems like a fair assessment. Here’s the list. We can debate the order but I think all of the right schools made the list:
1. Texas.
2. Ohio State.
3. Oklahoma.
4. Florida.
The forthcoming cavalcade of SEC schools probably should be listed as 4a-4d, but my bosses won’t let me have a four-way tie. So the SEC East’s best jobs get a slight nod over the SEC West’s best jobs only because the competition doesn’t seem so cutthroat in the East. You’re only supposed to win the national title every other year at Florida or Georgia; at LSU and Alabama, you’re supposed to win the national title every year. Sure, Florida has to compete with Florida State and Miami for recruits, but there is plenty of talent in the Sunshine State to go around. The state of Florida produces more talent than any other, and the University of Florida is the flagship university and the only SEC member within a 10-hour drive of the extremely fertile grounds on the southern end of the state.
5. Georgia.
6. LSU.
LSU edges Alabama because of only one factor. Alabama must fight Auburn for the best recruits in the state of Alabama. LSU has to fight no one for the best recruits in talent-rich Louisiana. Sure, out-of-state schools occasionally try to swoop in, but just as Ohio children grow up wanting to be Buckeyes and Georgia children grow up wanting to be Bulldogs, Louisiana children grow up wanting to be Tigers. Other than that, LSU and Alabama are about the same. Both programs rake in the cash and play in massive stadiums before deafening crowds. And in both places, if the coach can’t keep his team in the hunt for the national title every year, people will start clamoring for a coach who will.
7. Alabama.
In the 2009-10 school year, Alabama finished second to Texas in total revenue ($129.3 million), and the school opened an addition to Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2010 that raised capacity above 100,000. No fan base in America cares more about its football team, which can cut both ways for a coach. Win a national title and get a statue. Don’t win a national title and get run out of town.
8. Penn State.
9. Auburn.
Auburn falls below the dead-heat SEC quartet above for one reason. Because the Tigers historically are the Red Sox to Alabama’s Yankees, the Crimson Tide have the initial edge in most in-state recruiting fights. This edge isn’t insurmountable, though. Auburn also is only a short drive from talent-rich Atlanta, but those players have to be wrestled away from Georgia and Tennessee. Auburn doesn’t bring in quite as much money as Alabama, but the Tigers still have cash to burn. They can pay a handsome salary and have plenty left over to pay offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn $1.3 million a year to turn down the head coaching job at Vanderbilt. This is critical, and it is a common factor among all the schools listed so far. Any school willing to shell out for quality assistants is serious about winning.
10. Oregon.
11. USC.
12. Michigan.
13. Notre Dame.
14. Florida State.
Jimbo Fisher may just turn this into a destination job again. It sits this low because the fan/booster base was lulled to sleep at the end of the Bobby Bowden era. Upon his ascension to the big chair, Fisher immediately went into fundraising mode. He convinced boosters to chip in, and he quickly bulked up Florida State’s academic support, strength and nutrition programs. The recruits have flocked as well. Because of the school’s location, FSU’s coach has to work a little harder than Florida’s coach. Tallahassee is at the northern edge of the state, so players from Central and South Florida have to drive right through Gainesville on the way to FSU’s campus. The Seminoles are closer to many players in Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina, but they have to fight to get those players out of their home states. That said, coaches at most schools would volunteer a limb to have as many quality players within 300 miles of campus.
15. Nebraska.
16. Tennessee.
In 2009-10, nine athletic departments broke the $100 million revenue barrier. You’ve already read about eight of them. Why would an SEC program with 10-figure department revenue and a 100,000-plus stadium slip this low? Because Tennessee coach Derek Dooley has to work so much harder than his rivals to get recruits. The state of Tennessee produces some players, but its geography tends to breed mixed loyalties. Most of the best players are in Memphis, which is a six-hour drive from Knoxville. Players there grow up hearing as much or more about Ole Miss and Arkansas. Nashville is more of a Big Orange stronghold, but out-of-state schools have been known to slip in and pluck players. Tennessee is at its best when it can dip into Atlanta (three hours away) and pull players, but when good coaches sit at Georgia and Auburn, that’s a tough assignment.
17. Virginia Tech.
In terms of proximity to players, Virginia might be a better job than Virginia Tech. But Coach Frank Beamer has done such a good job convincing players from the stocked Tidewater area to come to Blacksburg that he has effectively negated any geographic disadvantage. Virginia Tech also can dip down into North Carolina, which has an underrated high school football culture that routinely produces great players. Virginia Tech would be higher on this list but for its revenue. The fan base is excellent, and Lane Stadium offers an intimidating home-field advantage, but Virginia Tech consistently ranks in the bottom half of BCS AQ-conference schools in revenue. The Hokies are quite competitive on the field, but Texas, Ohio State and the SEC powers are playing an entirely different game on the balance sheet.
18. Arizona State.
19. Arizona.
20. Oklahoma State.
So what are you thoughts on the list?
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268 comments Add your comment
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:16 pm
Somebody shock Al Groh and see if he’s still alive!
Evansdawg
June 3rd, 2011
4:18 pm
Historically, UGA is not ahead of ND, Michigan, or Penn State…but presently, their rankings in this article are probably spot on. They are nowhere near where they once were.
Junior Samples
June 3rd, 2011
4:19 pm
may be time to wake up the echos…bring back lou bwahahahahaha
Herschel Talker
June 3rd, 2011
4:24 pm
cantondawg:
Dan Mullen would be just fine.
HT
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
4:27 pm
Results. It’s all about results. As I look at the poll Georgia is ranked fifth. Obviously, the teams ranked higher have won the national championship. But the disburbing thing for Georgia fans is most of the teams ranked below the Dawgs have won national titles as well and we haven’t despite our vast resources. To be specific in the last 25 years according to your poll, the only programs not to win a national title besides Georgia, are Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oklahoma St., and Virginia Tech. We Georgia fans would like to regard ourselves as a major player for the title every year, but the truth is we are not. There are numerous reasons why Georgia has not reached the ultimate goal in the last quarter century. But one of the fundamental reasons begin with a only 3 wins in the last 21 years in Jacksonville. Repeated poor performances versus the Gators has cost the Dawgs dearly. I have some very eye opening information and it’s alarmly accurate and true. From 1974 through 1989 Georgia won 13 out of 16 games versus Florida in Jacksonville. For that period of domination the Dawgs achieved “1” national title and “4″ pre-merger SEC titles. ZERO national titles or SEC Championship were won by Florida while Georgia ruled the series at that time. Now let’s look at Florida from 1990 through 2010, the Gators have won 18 out of 21 games vs. the Dawgs. During this ongoing period of utter domination, the Gator have cashed in on “3″ national titles and and a whopping post merger “8″ SEC titles. During this period Georgia has “zerO” national titles and only winning “2″ post merger SEC titles. So there it is my fellow Dawgs the facts speak for themselves. We won’t get any real national recognition until UGa. gets back to winning versus it’s major rival: The Florida Gators. It’s going to take time and it’s going to take change.The Florida Gators would not wait for their coach to go 2-8 versus Georgia before terminating him even if he walked on water and healed the sick. It’s time for the Georgia BulldogNation to STAND UP and UNIFY and make the tough decisions needed to reclaim our pride and self respect for the honor and glory of ole Georgia. We must start winning games versus Florida again by “ANY MEANS NECESSARY” (morally and legally) for the program to get back to where it needs to be !! No more EXCUSES !!! We have done it before and we WILL do it again through hard work and sacrifice. Unproductive underachieving resulting in unacceptable outcomes for the program must be stopped and those responsible must be weeded out from the top to the bottom immediately if we want to be great ! No matter what anyone says or we’ve taken the Florida Gators best shot for the last 20 years and WE STILL ARE THE DOMINATE PROGRAM with 47 wins 40 losses and two ties vs. UF !!! Y’all must have forgot. We cannot continue to hesitate to eliminate the mediocrity thats dragging a one proud program down. Drink the POWER-aid and throw away the kool/fool-aid and let’s start winning the big game and championships again.
Deputy Dawg
June 3rd, 2011
4:29 pm
Shouldn’t Georgia Tech be ranked somewhere around 14 or 15? Oh wait, I forgot about those free hot dogs and cokes with cheap tickets.
Herschel Talker
June 3rd, 2011
4:29 pm
Atticus:
Dan Mullen would suit me just fine. Anything would be an upgrade over worthless Richt. We’re in for another pathetic 5+ loss season this year, but there is a light in 2012. Mullen, Kirby, or even Mickey Mouse would be an upgrade over doofus Richt.
HT
Slick
June 3rd, 2011
4:31 pm
Since the topic was better jobs I think the author got it about right. Bama fans calm down. Staples didn’t say UGA was a better program currently. He didn’t say UGA was a better program historically. But it might, in fact, be a better job for exactly the reasons he lists.
Now my questions is this: Is Nick Saban really that small? Richt is like towering over him in that pic.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:34 pm
Dan Mullen has done no better in his first two years than Richt did in his.
King Gator
June 3rd, 2011
4:35 pm
Dan Mullen will be the next coach at OSU! BUCKEYE!! Go Gators!
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:36 pm
“Is Nick Saban really that small? Richt is like towering over him in that pic.”
Yeah, that and another little thing is why he feels the need to compensate.
the real Old Gold
June 3rd, 2011
4:45 pm
This list is terrible and worthless.
jennifer
June 3rd, 2011
4:45 pm
UGA is an ideal coaching job. The fans are satisfied with mediocrity and there’s no pressure to win. Just show up, and talk about Jesus. If Saban put out a performance like Richt year after year, he’s be in the road to a position with a directional Louisiana university.
boots
June 3rd, 2011
4:48 pm
I am surprised the quality of life in Athens is not a plus for UGA. Athens is a much larger and vibrant town than it was 20 and 40 years ago. It is a great place to live and raise a family for a coach. I’ve been to both Auburn and Tuscaloosa several times, and I would rather not live there no matter how much I am paid. As far as Tennessee goes, it is hard to see them ranked this high after they had such a hard time keeping a sleeze-bag of a coach and then hiring another coach to take his place.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:48 pm
Signings capped at 25. I would like to see a maximum of 22 a year. Then you would have to hit on 77% of your recruits staying on the team whether they are any good or not. Make it interesting. Your point is seven! CRAPS!!
boots
June 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm
Oh, and why does it look like CMR has a mohawk in the picture??? I am a fan of the guy, but he seriously needs a new hair style.
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
4:54 pm
Home values in Tuskaloosa went on the upswing recently. Hook ‘er up Bubba and drag ‘er down the lane.
david
June 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm
Great comment Jennifer! You have excellent insight. Roll Tide
Honky Talkin'
June 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm
Georgia over Alabama?? You’ve got to be kidding me.
gt
June 3rd, 2011
4:56 pm
The whole list is ridiculous. One of the reasons Tressel at OSU had to quit is he had to cheat to win. How can that be the second best job in college football. Any national publication is going to rank or pick where the population is and readers are. Pays for a lot of hot air. Richt by all measure should have the best job if he would just do it. He gets to pick who comes to his school so their is really no need to cheat. He could have the budget to pay assistants to do the heavy lifting if any thought he was good enough to work for. I think if you took a vote of assistant coaches who may pay a little more realistic look at this kind of stuff, you would find some very surprising schools in the top 10. I truly believe Tech has a better coaching staff than Georgia only because Georgia has decided that is how they want it. The day Georgia decides to clean house and match the coaching with the players all bets are off.
Steve
June 3rd, 2011
4:57 pm
“So the SEC East’s best jobs get a slight nod over the SEC West’s best jobs only because the competition doesn’t seem so cutthroat in the East.”
LMAO. The SEC West has been tougher than the East one out of what.. the last eight years or so. The weakness of the West is the primary reason three teams in that division have won NC’s recently, as they typically haven’t been as deep .. which means fewer tough games. And before you western nutcases go ballistic, just look at the records of your top tier teams versus the East over the last decade and compare it to the East’s top teams versus the West. At one point LSU was barely over .500, Alabama was under .500 and Auburn was only slightly better than them both. Meanwhile, Florida, SC and UT all had significantly bettter records, and Georgia was right in the ballpark with Auburn.
Of course, the whole balance certainly has shifted recently. 2 years ago the West was arguably better and last year it was significantly better. Might be their turn to go on a run of dominance.
It Ain't Rocket Science
June 3rd, 2011
4:57 pm
Seems like this list was based a lot on money made. Not sure it doesn’t need to be more based on location of campus and a heavier emphasis put on that. Money is the driving force though for most college sports.
Hit A Single
June 3rd, 2011
4:58 pm
The Georgia job is a good one because Vince Dooley and Mark Richt have made it one by being the class act they are.
Ace
June 3rd, 2011
4:58 pm
Having losing or mediocre season is ok at UGA, just look at the current situation…
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June 3rd, 2011
4:59 pm
What was the score the last time ga played bama? That’s what I thought.
Richt`s Hammer
June 3rd, 2011
5:00 pm
I was talking to choakdawg in the bathroom and he said Tennessee will probably beat us by 30 this year. I hit him with my purse.
Central Fla
June 3rd, 2011
5:00 pm
um what did we do to you and you think you are a top 10 program? Yeah right.
Mike
June 3rd, 2011
5:16 pm
I have a few problems with this list. Here goes mine:
1. Texas. No argument. They are the best job in CFB
2. Florida – I hate UF but they are the SEC member flagship University in the most talent rich state in the country.
3. LSU – For the reasons listed above. Tons of talent with no in state compettion
4. USC – Best program in one of the best talent rich areas in the country
5. Georgia – Agree with everything said above
6. Alabama
7. Oklahoma – Great program/facilities but the instate talent puts them at a disadvantage to the schools above
8. Ohio St – Look in spite of what they say the B10 just isn’t as attractive as it used to be. The talent is in the south
9. Florida St – With the right coach they are a top 3 job
10. Miami (FL) – Even without the facilities of other top programs Miami is here because they have more NFL caliber talent within 50 miles of campus than any other program in the country by far. If they had more money they’d be the #1 job in the country.
11. Penn St – See Ohio St
12. Auburn
13. Nebraska – See Oklahoma except OU is close to TX
14. Tennessee – Great facilities but instate talent is lacking.
15. UCLA – If they ever got it together they’d be much higher on the list
16. Notre Dame – Very similar to a B10 school but still have the ND name
17. Texas A&M – See UCLA
18. North Carolina – Butch Davis proving you can get talent there
19. Michigan – See Notre Dame
20. Clemson – Great facilities, good instate recruiting, close to FL and GA. Could be a lot higher.
SEC FAN>
June 3rd, 2011
5:23 pm
I think this is a good list, if you take his criteria of money, recruiting grounds, pressure etc…The thing is though, the Big 6 in the SEC Bama,AU, LSU, UGA, UF, and UT are all about the same..They all have big money alumni, great facilites, good history , passionate fans…I really think UGA is probably the easiest job. You are the state school and your rival GA Tech, really can’t get the same type players…Johnny Majors used to say the AU job was the best because of where it is located…you will get about half the alabama kids, your only 30 minutes to the GA state line ( 2 hour drive to ATL) and only about 3.5 hours to the FL panhandle…
tiger7_88
June 3rd, 2011
5:23 pm
Thank you, @Joey (June 3rd, 2011, 4:00 pm)… this thread would never have been complete without a butthurt, whining dawgie chipping in on Auburn. LOL!
KISS THE RING BEEYOTCH!
BabsTolstoy
June 3rd, 2011
5:24 pm
Maybe Staples can do a ranking of the most underachieving programs as well, those with the most resources in terms of recruiting territory, fan support and fervor, and cash on hand to pay the help. Oh, and also lacking Championships of the recent BCS kind. I think Ga. would do well on that one also. Probably weigh in at No. 1. Off the top of my head I can’t think of a program that does so little with so much.
Mike
June 3rd, 2011
5:27 pm
Good points Powerade….and here are some others for us DAWG fans to digest about CMR the Savior…..
During the past several years UGA is:
.500 in SEC play. That’s right…..500 in conference competition.
2-8 against Florida
Under .500 vs top 25 teams
Have losses to UCF, Colorado, Mississippi State, Vandy, Kentucky (twice)
Have gotten blown out twice by non-bowl Tennessee teams
These events aren’t ‘one year’ events. They are a pattern of a sinking program and our fans don’t want to acknowledge. 2-8 against Florida is enough reason to terminate your head coach at UGA. Add in the rest of this and how he is keeping his job is just mind numbing…..yet our fans seem to think it is unfair that he is on the hot seat.
Want to know why places like Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, etc..etc… are better programs vs better jobs? Its because at Alabama you don’t get a chance to go 2-8 vs AU, .500 in conference, and have losing records vs the top 25…..do that at Alabama and your arse is sent packing because they care more about winning than we do.
SEC FAN>
June 3rd, 2011
5:30 pm
Can you imagine Saban at UGA? The thing is, Mike Adams would hate for a dictator coach to be there under his watch..Adams wants to be the man.
BiggdawgK
June 3rd, 2011
5:40 pm
How far will ohio st plummet when they get hammered with sanctions? With the way the hypocrite cheateye fan base is attacking T Pryor, it is only a matter of time before he bites back and starts naming names.
All together now. LOSS OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
5:45 pm
Everybody knows the grass is greener in Louisiana.
Have a chew?
Tideman
June 3rd, 2011
5:54 pm
@ Tim Tebow Jr………..You called Auburn a one horse town & very depressing? Surely you have driven thru East Gainesville. That’s a really great area, right ???
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:07 pm
So Tide Rising , Bear would have been fired after after the 1970 season? And Stallings got you put on probation.
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June 3rd, 2011
6:08 pm
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Dr. Phil
June 3rd, 2011
6:13 pm
Is Adams’ insistance on a pure white bulldog in keeping with his politically-correct image? Russ has proven a loyal and worthy mascot. Reject him at the risk of a curse.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
6:16 pm
Not many UGa fans would not mind if its current football coaching regime went 9-4 this season. And if they do go 9-4 it would be significant whether or not r it includes a win over rebuilding UF or not. I’ve already covered that issue & I’m going to move on to another problem facing UGa. Adams and Garrity have their poker faces on. The vibe I’m feeling is Garrity, a old school Dawg, turned Gator, turned Dawg again deep, deep down inside really doesn’t want to retain Richt, thus the hot seat has been custom fitted and designed for Richt this year while Greg Garity watched its construction through the blinds. GG is getting to know Michael Adams through this situation. Adams was willing to go one more year with Richt after a 6-7 season only because of his overall won-loss record and he feared retribution from the moral majority segment of UGa’s fanbase if he pulled the trigger too soon. And he felt he owed to that moral majority to tough out one more year with a proven second-rate coaching regime. Pontus Pilate Adams is washing his hands and feet in the proverbial bowl of water. Meanwhile Richt is under tremendous pressure and feeling the heat, which is causing him to act out character. He’s running key players out of the program, cursing, selling off assets and pinning all dreams of escaping the hot seat on a freshman crop of inexperienced players. Clear signs that there is panic on in Athens. If he can squeeze out 9 wins this year he still can’t win because that will drive expectations sky high for 2012 with the delusional, fanatical moral majority fanbase that truly believes Richt can stand on water. The end is near Adams and GG know it and Richt knows as well. So what will happen? If Richt wins 8 or 9 games I can see him throwing his name in the hat at the OSU, once MA and GG refuse to give him a long-term extension and huge buyout at the end of 2011. Hopefully the OSU will rush to grab MR, because he would be just what they need to preach and teach the virtues of morality and clean southern living to the tatted infidels there. Richt won’t beat Michigan but 2 out 10 meetings and he may not win any national titles, but he might win a Big 10 for the people at the OSU. But that’s not why you hire MR anyway, you hire a MR to bring in a good upright, genuine Christian man to right the listing ship and be everything the OSU thought had by deception with the sweater vest man.
Bawbie
June 3rd, 2011
6:18 pm
FIRE PERNO! Dawgs lose to freakin Creighton
1eyedJack
June 3rd, 2011
6:20 pm
Russ ain’t exactly got the best record…though a DGD.
Bawbie
June 3rd, 2011
6:22 pm
Perno cant coach in tight games. He paces the dugout like a caged spider monkey in a zoo.
Real Dawgs drink POWER-aid.( kool-aid is fool-ade)
June 3rd, 2011
6:25 pm
Mike : I agree with you 100%. You have given us more important information to consider. Great job. Bravo, Bravo and ………GO DAWGS !!! BEAT UF !!!
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:37 pm
Have to laugh at the resurgent Bama fans , Since Richt arrived at UGA you have a losing record 1-3, you finished in the top 10 less, and you only have 1 SEC championship and 1 MNC. You act as though you’ve play for the National Championship or win the SEC on an annual basis. Fact is the majority of your SEC championships came prior to 1980 since then UGA has won 4 bama has won 5. Since 1995 your program has been on probation more years that it hasn’t.(still on probation through 2012) had to vacate 30 wins and been put on post season bowl ban 3 times. Bear was a hell of a coach in the 60 and 70’s but most of you would’ve fired him after back to back 6-5 seasons.
LOL
June 3rd, 2011
6:39 pm
Its a better job than Bama because ITS NOT IN BAMA. Who would want to live in that septic tank if they didn’t have to or get paid well? No one.
cornhusker
June 3rd, 2011
6:39 pm
Bama is 3-7 over past 10 vs Auburn.
Joe Bob Thibodaux
June 3rd, 2011
6:57 pm
Cornhusker, SI don’t give your school much credit as a top 20 destination.
All things considered though, it looks like the SEC is still the best place to be a head coach.
Yeah, there is some debate, but living in Dixie is great if you love football.
You corn fed players have a rich tradition, but there ain’t nothing between Nebraska
and the North Pole but a barbed wire fence in the winter, and who wants to brag on how
hot things get. Yep, we got it good. SEC rules.
JBT
Carl
June 3rd, 2011
7:04 pm
UGA better than Bama, Michigan and Notre Dame? Right. Did that Sports Illustrated writer graduate from UGA?
hey BiggdawgK
June 3rd, 2011
7:13 pm
are you as stupid as you sound? probably so. i am sure you are as dumb as you look … with that little drool of ‘backee juice down the middle of your chins.
maybe the buckeye fans are attacking prior cause they dont like what he has done to our program? ya think? just a thought.
after all most fans that have any kind of scruples (want me to define that word for ya?) would expect their star qb to be a leader not a ring leader.
now how about some fries before you clean up the mess in the john!