Poll time: What would you think of Smith-for-Bynum deal?
Andrew Bynum has some baggage but he would give Hawks a legitimate center. (AP photo)
The other day I wrote that it might be time for the Hawks to part ways with Josh Smith– not just because he’s the most likely trade candidate in their core, but because it’s becoming clear that he’s getting tired of being blamed for everything when something goes wrong.
The Smith-bashers in town favored the column. The Smith fans hated it, some taking it as another media assault on Smith. Fact is, as I wrote, I agree with Smith that he takes more blame for the team’s shortcoming than he deserves.
Loading ...But that column sparked immediate trade rumors, including this one: Smith and Kirk Hinrich to Los Angeles Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Ron Artest. Barring other moves, that would leave the Hawks with a starting five of Bynum (center), Ron Artest (small forward), Al Horford (power forward), Joe Johnson (shooting guard) and Jeff Teague (point guard).
That trade is nowhere close to reality right now — it was concocted by media members for the sake of discussion, and because it seems plausible. The Lakers could be looking to move Bynum after his postseason meltdown, and they also may pursue a deal for Orlando’s Dwight Howard, which would make Bynum expendable. (One outlet, Hoopsworld, also is speculating whether the Clippers will pursue Smith.)
Bynum obviously has had his issues. But he would give the Hawks their first legitimate center in years and allow Horford to move to his more natural position of power forward. If the way Teague played against Chicago in the playoffs was not an aberration, suddenly the Hawks could be set at point guard and center, and when is the last time we could say that?
So I’m not saying this trade is going to happen. But since there seems to be so much interest in this topic, I figured I’d turn it over to you. What would you think about a Smith-Hinrich for Bynum-Artest deal? We’ll also put up a poll and see how the voting goes.
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Head Case
May 26th, 2011
3:04 pm
After Josh told Drew to F-Off, a few days later Smith was attempting to garner support for a Drew “Coup”
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/09/might-hawks-josh-smith-cost-coach-larry-drew-his-job/
A real class act, a guy who pushes a coach, and tells another to F-off. This team has always lost the big game with Smith, and always will. He’s a disruptive headcase, and that’s why we failed to trade him last year.
ZaZa Vs. Smith
May 26th, 2011
3:12 pm
April 10, 2007 — THE NBA must be thrilled about the graceful 24 hours it experienced Sunday/Monday. Aside from Miami Beach police playing ring around (James) Posey in the early a.m., the Hawks suspended Josh Smith two games yesterday after Mike Woodson banished him to the locker room during Atlanta’s loss in Philly for calling him names he’d only heard from rappers.
My first thought? What took the coach and GM Billy Knight so long to crack down on this remarkably skilled, exceptionally infantile and exceedingly selfish 21-year-old?
For three seasons I’ve written about Smith’s vulgar disrespect for Woodson, his assistants and a teammate or two. Yet, for the most part, his boorish behavior has been unchecked. As far as I know, there has been no loss of significant minutes or money. At the very least, he’s been privately docked some insignificant dough.
Last year, Smith’s belligerence got so out of hand, I’m told, Zaza Pachulia pinned him to the Hawks’ locker room wall after a game.
“Talk to me like you just did on the court,” the 6-foot-11, 250-pound Georgian warned, in essence, “and you’ll miss the rest of your career.”
This season the league fined Smith 25G for saluting heckling fans with a finger on each hand up while walking off the court after being ejected from a Bobcats game.
His apology the next day maintained such conduct was uncharacteristic. I maintained it was completely characteristic.
I maintain he’s perfectly understood. From what I know, he’s trouble looking for trouble.
Two summers ago, a source swore he was in a club when the under-age Smith was asked to leave after acting up when a bartender refused to serve him. That’s when things almost got of hand.
“Josh kept threatening he was going home to get his gat and was coming back with his peeps,” the source asserted. “Thank goodness Josh Childress was there. He kept calming down Smith and telling him to chill. Finally, he got him out of there before anything physical or worse happened.”
Yup, if I’m the Hawks, Smith’s the guy I want to bankroll this summer as my franchise player. The predicament is, if they don’t, we all know there will be at least one team (and all it takes is one) who’ll be more than willing to take a five-year, $50 millions-$60 million guaranteed gamble the season after next (when he becomes free) on such a talented head case.
In the meantime, I’m left wondering why the Hawks finally decided to discipline Smith. Was his obscene outburst so public that Woodson and Knight had no other choice? Or was it his new vocabulary words that sent management over the edge?
Mr Mojo
May 26th, 2011
3:32 pm
Jeff is such a hater. Josh isn’t going anywhere.
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Josh
May 26th, 2011
4:03 pm
re: John… I think he asked you for a “legitimate” article.That means justifiable. who wrote that I don’t even know if I can call it article.. It looks like someone from the basement… Just because it is on a web page it does not give it crediblity. Can you give me what makes that comment “legitimate”?
Re: Josh
May 26th, 2011
4:31 pm
Josh, you’ve never heard of Sam Amick, and Sports Illustrated?
That’s where that’s from! Last time I checked, Sports Illustrated wasn’t published from a basement, and Sam Amick is what even a less than average joe would call “legitimate”.
Unless, of course, you have some info to share about SI and Sam Amick that has yet to be uncovered? LOL
AMICK IS A PUNK
May 26th, 2011
4:34 pm
DONT KNOW NOTHIN BOUT JOSH CAUSIN NO FIGHTS IN NO LOCKER ROOM
I BET HE MADE IT UP!
Trade
May 26th, 2011
4:36 pm
Mike Brown has probably seen more of Josh than Phil Jackson did so I’m sure if there’s mutual interest in a trade that could help some.
Great Article, Jeff
May 26th, 2011
4:41 pm
Agree, for the Hawks to contend, they need to cut the cancer (Smith) out.
Smoove is firing Drew
May 26th, 2011
4:44 pm
He started his campaign to have him fired shortly after Drew benched him. Going to the other players, poising the well, so to speak. The majority of the players really hate Josh, and went to Drew immediately, and told him to cover his back.
They can’t trade Smoove…they did try, and he was passed on because of his personal issues. Management is weak, and don’t understand the effect of letting a 25 year old kid run the team.
My guess is, Smith stays, Drew goes.
nique
May 26th, 2011
5:13 pm
I can’t imagine that’s a real possibility.
Why so many Josh haters
May 26th, 2011
5:14 pm
why note hate Marvin or Jo the burgler. Man!!!!!! For the sake all of you haters I wish they send Josh to LA. Josh will have a ring and the HAWKS will go back to being the Hawks Loosers… Good luck Haters. hope your prayers are answered..
re: Josh Haters?
May 26th, 2011
5:19 pm
How can anyone not figure this out.
He starts fights in locker room
Pushes Coach
Tells Coach to F-his mother
Tells coach he will take the 3 when he damn well pleases
Tells other players to F-their mothers
Is Lazy
Is dumbest Guy in NBA
Says Fans know nothing about the Game
Personal (family problems) showing up to game causing distraction
Someone else said they thought he could not read – but I’m not sure on that one.
JerryNelson
May 26th, 2011
5:27 pm
I’m glad Mike Brown got to coach the Lakers. Thats great because it means that there are still at least TWO GREAT COACHES on the market who would be good for the Hawks upcoming coaching vacancy. I’m sure Larry Drew will get fired, I just dont know when its going to happen. Meanwhile, I would recommend the Hawks to start interviewing RICK ADLEMAN and JERRY SLOAN. Either of those coaches would do wonders with the Hawks talent. However, the Hawks must move swiftly because those two future hall-of-fame coaches will not stay on the market unemployed much longer.
who ever you are that is changing your name
May 26th, 2011
5:28 pm
Please you can stop now we get it… you will say anything and everything. What do you want trophy for hating Josh or do you want us to say you are so smart… Okay you are so smart.. now can you stop… you took up about two to three pages already.. now go play outside…
57% want Trade
May 26th, 2011
5:31 pm
I don’t think we have a name changer, I think we have a majority of fans (57%) posting the facts. And those facts about his lack of character have you upset.
Don’t ever let the truth upset you, the truth will set you free!
Korey
May 26th, 2011
5:33 pm
No ! if its any one we should trade its joe he getting paid more than lebron and wade (not put together) is his production any where near them.. no.. smith is a good player, only reason yall want him gne is because the jumpers he takes maybe if we get a coach that shows him how much he is better in the hole rather than taking jumpers.. I say trade jj and hinrich for a productive shooting guard, like a Roy blazers would like to get younger at the point and joe can run point and hinrich does.. and go get a free agent Center with the money you save by trade jj and kirk..
Heres my starting five 1.Jeff 2. Roy, 3. Josh, 4 Al 5. the free agent
NOw please dont tell me thats not a great lineup
Why is stating the facts "hating"?
May 26th, 2011
5:54 pm
All I’ve done is put together the facts why he should be traded. I used information available from real sources.
Instead of attacking the messenger, maybe you could attack the message, prove SI isn’t a real source, prove he didn’t really push the coach, tell the coach to F-his mother, etc, etc???
Larry Drew
May 26th, 2011
6:36 pm
Yes Josh Smith has been undermining my ability to bring out the very best in Jeff Teague its why we sat him for 56 games and started Bibby. All Smith’s fault for questioning that.
He is so big and intimidating. He is also keeping Joe Hinrich and Crawford from playing to their 30 year old potentials. He needs to be disciplined.
He is the reason Horford struggles against bench players and the reason Horford can’t guard Dwight or Bargnani or Dirk or Gasol. Smith just gets in the way. Bastard.
Come on down Bynum, we have all the knee braces and Fruit Loops you need. Atlanta is the happiest city in America, you WILL enjoy it.
Josh Smith's Weight
May 26th, 2011
6:56 pm
Josh Smith has experimented with different weights ever since they started playing him at center.
I can’t find an article on him being lazy but I can find an article where Josh Smith and lazy@ss veteran Kobe Bryant reached out to Olajuwon to work on their post games before it became shiek thing to do.
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This doesn’t mean that they’re not learning, however, or that their time with Olajuwon had a negative impact on their post games. In fact, perhaps due to their summer workouts, both Bryant and Smith internalized Olajuwon’s advice and looked to be more active in the post last season. Bryant spent 19.4 percent of his time in the post, an unbelievably high number for a guard, which equaled the amount of time spent in the post by guards Dwyane Wade (6 percent), Brandon Roy (6.3 percent) and Vince Carter (7.1 percent) combined. Smith worked 18.7 percent of his offense in the post, which was significantly more than the aforementioned forwards James (6.3 percent), Odom (9.4 percent), Lewis (12 percent) and Deng (6.9 percent). Ultimately, it’s quite common for a player to experience a drop in efficiency with a large increase in attempts in a certain area, highlighting what tends to be a negative relationship between frequency and efficiency.”
and excerpts about him needing to maintain weight to bang inside with PFs and Centers who arent you know 6′8 230.
“I heard that Josh Smith has added some size, so I emailed him and he said he’s gained “maybe 10 pounds of muscle.” -Lang Whitaker, October,2008
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SLAM: In the last 20 postseasons, a 23-16-8-2 game has only happened nine times. You, Hakeem Olajuwon (2), Shaquille O’Neal (3), Pau Gasol and Brad Daugherty (2)were the players to accomplish it. What is it like to be able to have a game of that caliber?
JS: Just to be mentioned with the names that you just named are unbelievable. Those are Hall of Fame players and players that been effective in this league for a long time. I just have to keep pushing and keep being positive and just keep doing whatever I can in order to help this ball club win.
SLAM: Do you think people watching really understand what you’re bringing to the game, who you’re guarding on the floor–I saw you on Noah and Deng–and the mistakes that you clean up around the basket through defense?
JS: No, they don’t. But people that know basketball know it. But the people that just watch the game and don’t know what’s going on and don’t know the different coverages and things that we have to do, they’ll never understand it. So it’s kind of like a win/lose. You win because with the people that know basketball, they understand and see what you’re doing. The people that just watch the game just to watch it is just something you can’t fight.
# Did Shaq, Dream, Pau, and Daugherty also shoot 8/22 in their games as well??
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nycbballfan Posted: May.12 at 7:45 pm
Good questions and straight talk from a player who does it all. People who know basketball appreciate what Josh brings every game. Good luck to Josh and the Hawks.
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Ronald Posted: May.12 at 9:50 pm
@Rigo: The 8/22 stat was a bit misleading. He took a few shots at the end of the shotclock and missed a few bunnies which he got the rebound and placed it back in/got fouled on.
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jj jone Posted: May.12 at 9:55 pm
8/22 stat was misleading. I agree. I liked a rare glimpse into Smith. Great set of questions.
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Josh Smith
Smith was 245 pounds of solid muscle early in the summer but has shed weight since then, mostly by accident, but his summer work was as much philosophical as it was physical.
“I wasn’t trying to lose it. I didn’t do it on purpose. But earlier in the summer I started working out twice a day and the weight just came off. I’m down to 230 now, and I really need to put five more pounds of muscle back on.
“I wanted to work more on my decision-making than anything. I handle the ball so much on the fast break and in transition that I wanted to make sure I’m thinking the game the way I need to be. I also worked on my handles and knocking down that mid-range jumper. I’m really not worried about the 3-point ball right now. We have so many guys on this team that can make that shot.
“I don’t have any business being out there this season with Joe Johnson, Mike Bibby, Jamal Crawford, Marvin, Mo and [Jeff] Teague all doing work out there. I have to focus on working in the cracks and making sure that people respect my mid-range game. And if they don’t, we have to make them pay for not respecting it.”
Big Ray
May 26th, 2011
7:39 pm
….zzzzzzz…..zzzzzzz…..zzzzzzzz…..
Teezo
May 26th, 2011
7:40 pm
The Hawks are kinda like the Bulls without their defense, meaning they are predictable…If any change has to be made its the system on offense and defense…
…Our bigs were outside the paint way too many times giving up rebound after rebound
…We dribble our way to bad shots or forcing it as the shot clock ran out
…We hardly ever got any fast break points
…Players didn’t know what to do once JJ got swarmed including JJ
…Too much switching on defense which led to our bigs being left on an island
…Nobody except for Josh and Teague attacked to basket
…Effort Effort Effort
Until you address those things with new players and/or coaching staff nothing will change…I don’t know who needs to be traded and what we need in return, but management needs to figure out an identity before anything…We are not outstanding at anything, just ok and that will not get you anywhere in this league…JJ is the only player on this this team that commands a double team and in my eyes they need to focus on bringing in a player(s) that compliments him more than anything…Yes, he’s a high paid player, but what team in this league doesn’t have a player on their team making that kind of money…HIS contract of far from the problem, because as an NBA franchise every team has a high paid player, its the other contracts like Zaza, Marvin and so-on…As for this Smith/Bynum trade, I say NNNNNNOOOOOOO…I understand wanting to trade, but you don’t trade a knucklehead for 2 knuckleheads…GET A BONAFIED SYSTEM BEFORE TRYING TO RID YOUR PLAYERS!!!!!
W.R. Terrell
May 26th, 2011
8:22 pm
Josh Smith needs to go period. He has no basketball IQ and regardless of what JJ or any other players incompetence, Josh Smith stood out like a sore thumb. Talented, yes he is but he wears a Dunce cap when it comes to thinking concerning thne game of basketball.
Dude
May 26th, 2011
8:32 pm
May 26th, 2011
12:28 pm
I will quit watching and supporting the hawks if they get rid of Josh. He is the heart and soul of the team.
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
12:29 pm
I am gay so I fit better here in Midtown. The only other place you can trade me is San francisco
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
12:30 pm
Yes, im gay, shout out to my lover michael cunningham…whatz up boo
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
12:32 pm
Josh is the heart and soul of this team but me and Al Cunningham have free booty to share.
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
I like to where my boxers with the hole to the rear….
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
8:35 pm
Hey Schultz, me and M. Cunningham, dont mind if you come over again like you did before you wrote this article.
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
If Josh Smith thinks hes so smart why am I the 1 whose gay? Im the one who wears his boxers shorts with the hole to the rear.
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
8:40 pm
I may not be as smart or as athletic as Josh, nor as quick or talented, but I give free booty.
Al Horford.
May 26th, 2011
8:51 pm
Whose condoms are these in my butt? Not this green one but the other I cant pull out.
My butt has no defense.
Big Gay Ray
May 26th, 2011
8:58 pm
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bama52
May 26th, 2011
9:17 pm
We don’t need this trade. everybody want to get rid of J Smith for an injury pron center and possible someone who may cause trouble. Trade M Williams and see what we can get in free agency. We need to form a good bench in Atl like the rest of the playoff teams have.
Big Gay,Ray
May 26th, 2011
9:31 pm
When we trade Al horford we may get better. But until then he is still my favorite player and Id like to sleep with him just like michael cunningham and jeff schultz.
HawksFanForever
May 26th, 2011
9:48 pm
Why all the J Smoove hate? Out of all the players, he’s the most chastised. He does way more than other players on this team. How many times we have put up with JJ stalling the offense by holding the ball? How many times have we put up with Marvin…..doing absolutely nothing? Instead of trading Smoove, trade Marvin
Why is stating the facts hate?
May 26th, 2011
10:44 pm
He pushed coach, told a coach to f his mother, told team mates to f their momma, he told drew he would take the 3 whenever he wanted, and started undermining drew behind his back for benching him, for not listening.
Lazy, dumb and not a quality person…all well documented.
MARC
May 26th, 2011
11:29 pm
THIS WOULD BE A DUMB TRADE! WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME BYNUM PLAYED CLOSE TO A FULL SEASON, HMMMMMMM, WELL, NEVER! SMITH CAN BE A GREAT PLAYER! IF WE TRADE HIM, WE WOULD BE TRADING A RARE NBA TALENT! MAYBE HE DOES NEED TO GO, SO YOU SMITH HATERS CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS VALUE WHEN HE COMES BACK AND DESTROYS THE HAWKS!
joseph b.
May 27th, 2011
12:07 am
you as… holes trade josh smith you are fools.
Bogut>Al
May 27th, 2011
1:59 am
New York Knicks power forward Amare Stoudemire is not the biggest fan of Atlanta Hawks center Al Horford.
According to ESPN.com, Stoudemire and Horford exchanged verbal shots this week.
“He don’t want to see me, man,” Stoudemire told ESPN. “I watched him play in Florida [in college], and I’ve seen him play a few years in Atlanta. We have two different games.”
Horford was not intimidated by Stoudemire’s remarks.
“I don’t understand what he means by that, ‘He don’t want to see me,’” Horford said to ESPN. “Like we’re supposed to be scared of Stoudemire. Ain’t nobody scared of him. We’re all grown men, so it’s all good.”
When the two battled it out on the court Wednesday night, though, Stoudemire and the Knicks walked away with a 102-90 win.
truhawksfan
May 27th, 2011
3:24 am
People just need to stop all this madness about trading Josh Smith.Some of you guys need to be thinking about moving Marvin,Etan,Collins,Josh P(give him back to the lakers),and Magnum Rolle.J-Smoove is a great player and Bynum and Arteset is not what this taem needs at this point there is way more prolems with those two then josh throwing up a couple of ill-advised shots.Those two you have to worry about injuries and cheap shots and you think this team lack mental toughness this is a whole different ball game with fragile minded people.One of them see a therapist not saying anthing is wrong with that but he might just spazut on us and he getting old.The other like to take ill-advised shots and not the one that involve the ball or a play and his knees older than him .That would be a real pasty move.So in other words NOOOOOOOOOOOO,NOPE,NAW,and NO THANKS to that deal and any other you can think of.
Trade Smith
May 27th, 2011
8:26 am
Selfish kid, cares more about his shot than the team.
This is as good as he gets. His weight is an issue.
Dangos
May 27th, 2011
8:30 am
He really isn’t the smartest guy in the NBA.
He hired a life coach to help him with his game. Life coach told him all he needed to do to sink the 3 was to close his eyes 20 before bed, and envision himself making the shot.
His money would have been better spent on common sense coach…like so many things in life, it takes hard work, not wishful thinking, to get er done.
I agree
May 27th, 2011
8:40 am
Smith Stays.Hes one of the best(and considerably better that inconsistent Al) power forwards in the game and as recent as 1 year ago was rated the best defensive Power Forward in the game. His offensive tools aint bad either.
He Cuss out Drew? Who hasnt? Drew gets no respect from his player. Drew is a scrubb. Smith is Woodsons boy!.
Horford backs away from responsibility. Is extremely soft on the front line. Is selfish and his stats are average as best. He brings very little to the table except when josh or others play defense Horford waits around for a WELFARE rebound. Dude, plays some D.
TRADE AL “IM SCARED OF AMARE” HORFORD NOW!
Bibby is going to get a much deserve ring to crown is career. While you Bibby haters are ignoring the fact. Bibby is starting in Miami’s back court.
Chimming in
May 27th, 2011
8:52 am
Put my vote in for the trade Soft Al now. Yes, he a press favorite but come on, we are talking a career 12 pt 8 rebound guy… How in the Hell is that worth keeping? Hes not the talent that josh is and Al is extremely selfish in demanding to play power forward when we already have a very good one in Josh. He sacrifices the team chemistry with his selfish demands rather than embrace his role as center. the hawks are no better this year than last. Get rid of Al now!
Chimming in
May 27th, 2011
8:54 am
And yes, Im talking about sorry a_ _ Drew too ! Fire his butt now! His mama too.
Bring back Woodson!
Looks like more than half want smith gone
May 27th, 2011
9:32 am
Sad when Your hometown fans hate ur guts. I’m sure he’ll do much better wherever they send him.
B'Red
May 27th, 2011
10:05 am
Unload JJ and that fat contract to Chicago, we will take whatever they will give us in return. Just take Joe off our hands.
Smith wasn't raised right
May 27th, 2011
10:12 am
Ignorant thug…I’m glad they want to trade him, I blame his pappie for they way he is.
The Dude
May 27th, 2011
10:25 am
I know everyone says JJ cannot be traded. But did you see the Bulls game last night. How badly do they need a 2 that can score. D-Rose cannot do it on his own offensively. I know Da Bulls have coveted JJ in the past. We could even pay some of his salary next year. Here is the plan: trade JJ to Bulls and ask very little in return(the main reason to trade him is to dump that albatross of a salary). Maybe we could get that big foreign center for JJ or an aging Carlos Boozer(did you see he was on the bench during a lot of crunch time). Just a thought cuz I see the Bulls needing to upgrade from D-Rose and the Defenders.
DinasaurFenton
May 27th, 2011
12:02 pm
Trading Josh Smith for Andrew Bynum is trading a lazy@ss unprofessional punk (JSMOOVE) for a tall no-talent coward bum who is allways injured and contributes almost nothing (BYNUM). Bynum wouldnt help the Hawks to anything except we would now have a punk (Bynum) who tries to act like a tough-guy because of his size. Did you see the cheap shot he gave to JJBerrea’s neck in the Lakers loss to the Mavs. Berrea could have gotten injured or could have been paralyzed for life or may have even ended up in a wheelchair and Bynum tries to apologize to patch things up with Berrea. Berrea and the Dallas Mavericks should have filed assault charges against Bynum and Bynum should have been siting in the Los Angeles county jail until he serves time for that assault. THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. These Laker thugs:BYNUM, ARTEST AND ODUM should pay for their crimes. They think they are tough guys just slapping people around but they will get beat up if they continue their COWARDLY ACTS on the wrong person. BYNUM, ARTEST AND ODUM SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL. Those three idiots should save their apologies and serve their time for their cowardly acts.
FredFlinstone
May 27th, 2011
12:20 pm
The Hawks should STAND PAT and not trade away their great talent. Look folks, you may not realize it right now, but the Hawks have four guys on their roster who have a great chance of making the hall-of-fame: Jamal Crawford, Josh Smith, Al Horford and Joe Johnson. Keep this core group in tact. They will all develop and become great over time. Joe will get much better; Al Horford will soon remind us of Wilt Chamberlain, Josh Smith will IMPROVE DRAMATICALL and will soon be better than LaBron James, and Jamal Crawford even now can shoot the basketball like “Pistol” Pete Maravich. DONT TRADE AWAY THE CORE HAWKS.
zachdahater
May 27th, 2011
2:51 pm
I’d LOVE to get Andrew Bynum in here, I really don’t care if he german suplexed and then briefly butt-raped J J Barea, HE’D BE GREAT for the Hawks!!! Listen, the last injuries he had were freak injuries where someone fell into his legs. Not him being goofy, just freak injuries. He’s not really injury prone, and he’s fairly healthy right now. That being said, I DON’T WANT TO GET RID OF THE FEW SCORERS THAT WE HAVE!!! We don’t score very easily, we need to look for more scoring options. We can’t give up Josh Smith, and we should keep Kirk because AS OF NOW, we only have 2 real PGs unless we put Jamal at the point full time, and have Damien behind Joe.
BYNUM WOULD BE GREAT, GIVING UP JOSH and KIRK for BYNUM AND ARTEST would NOT be great. Artest CAN’T SCORE we’ll have the same problems with him that we do with Josh, and he’s not athletic as Josh so he only brings defense, but Josh brings a lot more to the table. DO NOT do this trade. There are other teams out there, BAD TEAMS, BAD TEAMS WITH GOOD PLAYERS, BAD TEAMS WITH GOOD PLAYERS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE RISKS AND MAKE TRADES. We have a million players we don’t use, trade them AND MARVIN for a good center. Hey LET’S TAKE MAGGETTE from the Bucks and BOGUT. I’d trade 5 of our players we don’t use for them, imagine….
Teague/Kirk
Joe/Jamal/Sy
Josh/Maggette/Damien/
Horford/Magnum Rolle
Bogut/Zaza/Collins
We could trade Hilton, Powell, Etan Thomas, MARVIN, and maybe Sy for Bogut and Maggette. LISTEN, WE ARE A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM IF WE PULL THIS OFF!!! Or something like this trade! We are a good C and a scoring SF away from a championship!! GO HAWKS!!!
Hmm, what about Iguodala, what would that take? He looks tradeable. Maybe get him, and a center from another team. So many options, the Celtics got 2 great players from 2 random teams and got a championship. We need 2 players and we’re on our way….I mean, we could’ve beaten the Bulls THIS YEAR and been to the Conference finals. If we had a SF and a Center that series was OURS ALL THE WAY.