Poll time: What would you think of Smith-for-Bynum deal?

Andrew Bynum has some baggage but he would give Hawks a legitimate center. (AP photo)

Andrew Bynum has some baggage but he would give Hawks a legitimate center. (AP photo)

The other day I wrote that it might be time for the Hawks to part ways with Josh Smith– not just because he’s the most likely trade candidate in their core, but because it’s becoming clear that he’s getting tired of being blamed for everything when something goes wrong.

The Smith-bashers in town favored the column. The Smith fans hated it, some taking it as another media assault on Smith. Fact is, as I wrote, I agree with Smith that he takes more blame for the team’s shortcoming than he deserves.

How would you view a Josh Smith-Kirk Hinrich for Andrew Bynum-Ron Artest trade?

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But that column sparked immediate trade rumors, including this one: Smith and Kirk Hinrich to Los Angeles Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Ron Artest. Barring other moves, that would leave the Hawks with a starting five of Bynum (center), Ron Artest (small forward), Al Horford (power forward), Joe Johnson (shooting guard) and Jeff Teague (point guard).

That trade is nowhere close to reality right now — it was concocted by media members for the sake of discussion, and because it seems plausible. The Lakers could be looking to move Bynum after his postseason meltdown, and they also may pursue a deal for Orlando’s Dwight Howard, which would make Bynum expendable. (One outlet, Hoopsworld, also is speculating whether the Clippers will pursue Smith.)

Bynum obviously has had his issues. But he would give the Hawks their first legitimate center in years and allow Horford to move to his more natural position of power forward. If the way Teague played against Chicago in the playoffs was not an aberration, suddenly the Hawks could be set at point guard and center, and when is the last time we could say that?

So I’m not saying this trade is going to happen. But since there seems to be so much interest in this topic, I figured I’d turn it over to you. What would you think about a Smith-Hinrich for Bynum-Artest deal? We’ll also put up a poll and see how the voting goes.

By Jeff Schultz

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435 comments Add your comment

Andre

May 25th, 2011
10:56 am

Oh, this sounds great. Anything that will get Josh Smith out of here. I’ll take Ron Artest ill-advised jumpers over Josh Smith any day!!!

me

May 25th, 2011
10:59 am

Artest is a bigger loser than Josh Smith….thats saying something.

Tana

May 25th, 2011
11:03 am

I don’t think this trade will be the way Smith is moved, but I agree that Smith will be the odd man out this season.

erock

May 25th, 2011
11:07 am

That trade is re-donkulous… Lakers wouldn’t take such a down grade. Bad enough they’re replacing Phil w/ Mike Brown

J.J.M.

May 25th, 2011
11:10 am

lakers would down grade?

smitty

May 25th, 2011
11:11 am

I would have to say no just because of Bynum’s injury issues. He has not played a complete season. A big man with injury issues is not the way to go. Plus having Artest jack ill advised shots versus Smith’s ill advised shots, it seems like a bit of a wash to me.

James

May 25th, 2011
11:12 am

I truly believe that Josh needs to be on a team with a strong leader or a coach that can get in his ear.Obviously neither of those elements are in Atlanta.Ron Artest needs the same type of environment.Bottom line I think Josh’s stock and production would increase and Artest’ would decline.Bynum would be a great addition to Josh and Horford but that’s a dream.Sending Josh away means starting Mavrin Williams who should be playing in Israel is a nightmare in waiting.

Lucky Bucky

May 25th, 2011
11:13 am

We should have package Smith to Denver along with the two first rounders for Carmelo when we had a chance last year..

Lucky Bucky

May 25th, 2011
11:14 am

Enter your comments here

and if everyone is in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes why cant we enter them … Smith and Hinrich would be a good opening antee…

Peter

May 25th, 2011
11:16 am

If that happens how do we unload JJ ?

JROLL1

May 25th, 2011
11:16 am

Mike

May 25th, 2011
11:17 am

Nope, that wont happen, if ASG will be still be owning team, they will not go into luxuxy tax land with Artest and Bynum contracts, besides if I was going to trade Josh Smith, it will be atleast a superstar (Chris Paul/DWill) or multi-picks

Duh

May 25th, 2011
11:18 am

Only problem with that idea @Lucky Bucky is that Carmelo didn’t want to come here. He was fixated on NYC. Atlanta isn’t the attraction that NYC, LA, or Miami is. No beaches, no nationally known high society, no entertainment stars. Basketball players aren’t interested in just perfecting their game. They want the glamor of being celebrities as well as athletes.

doc

May 25th, 2011
11:18 am

no! simple decision.

bynum has way too many health issues to be expected to remain upright for a full season much less several to offset the loss of josh.

artest would be a disaster here, if phil and kobe couldnt keep him interested and in line why would we expect the good ron ron?

Marcus

May 25th, 2011
11:19 am

thumbsdown. Bynum’s injury history makes this a no-go. He has had some serious knee problems.

Problem is …. Josh’s entire career has been under the tutelage of 1st time head coaches. He runs the same risk out in L.A., depending on what they do.

allan in texas

May 25th, 2011
11:19 am

DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PureEvil

May 25th, 2011
11:21 am

Smith = sometimes a game changing player always a great defender
Hinrick = expendable but are we sure Teague will be able to be the man
for
Bynum = often injured never a game changer
Artest = old punk with deteriorating game.

NO

coach phil

May 25th, 2011
11:22 am

Why is everyone jumping on j-smoove? The highest paid player in the league (joe johnson) plays no defense, don’t rebound, oh and yea he disappears in the playoffs. so you tell me where the hawks problems lie. #5 over #2 any day.

Brandon

May 25th, 2011
11:23 am

I don’t like losing Hinrich since we most likely will lost Jamal to free agency but I like the thought of Bynum at the 5 and Horford at the 4. We would have a legitimate center and maximize Al’s potential. Artest I wouldn’t love but maybe we would be able to flip him to another team for a capable small forward. Not a star, but capable.

coach phil

May 25th, 2011
11:25 am

Why doesn’t anyone think marvin williams need to go? Over-rated and a bench player at best.

ryan

May 25th, 2011
11:26 am

ASG has any dignity left the go after Atlanta’s home grown superstar Dwight Howard Josh Smith does have some value with Thrashers gone Hawks will be main focus they need to do this would really spark the city create a lot of buzz .

caz

May 25th, 2011
11:26 am

For as much as I think the Hawks need a big.And for as much as I think JSmith is wasting the talent he’s been blessed with,I don’t think this trade makes sense for a couple of reasons 1)Bynum is injury prone & 2)is not the dominant consistant presence we need. More often than not when he is healthy he is more of a compliment piece and unless we find more offense he will just block up space and watch like the others. And for the price tag he would command I don’t think he’s worth it. How bout package JSmith with a draft pick or another player to move up and get a post player,price would be right and we would be able to develop him. jmo

PureEvil

May 25th, 2011
11:27 am

Smith could be one of the most sought after players in this years trade market. Why is that? Can’t be because he’s no good. But you people don’t care just trade the bum!!!!! We could get a very strong return for Josh….Much better than Bynum and Artest.

Ryan

May 25th, 2011
11:28 am

Horford for bogut

JDK

May 25th, 2011
11:29 am

Tell me, Jeff : do you honestly believe this is a good idea?

Bynum cannot stay healthy, and those knees are only going to get worse with age. Plus, he was hardly contrite after that bush league hit on Barrea. The Hawks need toughness – not thuggery.

Speaking of, I will say that I was impressed with Artest’s personal turnaround, having won the NBA citizenship award. Kudos to him. Still, I’d much rather have Captain Kirk playing D on the wing and providing much-needed leadership for a full season.

DinasaurFenton

May 25th, 2011
11:32 am

I think Al Horford will improve and get better over time. We now know that the Hawks are the third best team in the NBA behind Dallas and Miami. All the Hawks have to do to pass those two clubs is acquire a good shooter of the midrange jumpshot: someone like Rashad Lewis, J.R. Smith or Brandon Roy. Trade either Josh Smith for either of those 3 guys and the hawks should be on their way to hoisting the GOLD TROPHY!

Duh

May 25th, 2011
11:32 am

@DinasaurFenton I think you forgot the Bulls (who beat the Hawks and were a #1 seed), the Celtics, and the Thunder????

Duh

May 25th, 2011
11:33 am

Oh and I forgot the Lakers and Knicks

CJ

May 25th, 2011
11:36 am

That’s like trading Josh Smith for two Josh Smiths (in the negative direction). Bynum’s cheap shot on Barea was enough to make me not want him on my team.

Casual Hockey Fan

May 25th, 2011
11:37 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! But the Hawks will probably do it anyway

captainamerica

May 25th, 2011
11:38 am

Jeff-
I’d rather deal Horf and Joe for Dwight and Arenas. What do you think the odds are of Orlando being interested in a deal like that?

Terrell

May 25th, 2011
11:40 am

Ok, so we trade a still young PF for an older version on J.R Rider (Ron Artest) when it comes to attitude and then lets get the second coming of Sam Perkins (Bynum). Since we decided to trade Kirk away then we would have only one true PG on the team.

Caz,
What player do you see in this year’s draft that’s going to replace what Josh Smith can do?

Lucky Bucky,
Smith for Melo? Our problem was our team wasn’t tough on offense or defense and Melo isn’t a tough guy. He could score but defense is not something he tries. You see how well the Nuggets played after they traded him.

Will Stockdale

May 25th, 2011
11:40 am

Hey Ben, maybe you’ll get to like the Air Force, zooming all over the sky and shouting ROGER and WILCO and everything. Maybe it won’t be so bad.

ATLman86

May 25th, 2011
11:41 am

He** no! Bynum has not played more than like 60 games in a season! And Artest don’t even start with me! I want Tyson Chandler for Smith or someone of his likeness! Get me Marc Gasol or something! I don’t want over-paid Lakers trash in Atlanta!

Duh

May 25th, 2011
11:41 am

Not a chance @captainamerica. Arenas is CRAP and nobody will take on JJ’s Koncak….I mean contract

Don

May 25th, 2011
11:41 am

Go figure finally found PG to push the ball now get rid of the guy who can run with him, because somehow at end of shot clock joe money just kicked it out to him
16-8 best ya get from al da tweener who is to stiff to defend PFs (boozer looked all NBA)

Get Real Hawks Fans

May 25th, 2011
11:44 am

This team is doomed not because of the J being spoke of here but because of the other J not being talked about. Joe Johnson IS ATL’s Allan Houston. Until we get serious about addressing this problem we will not be a successful team. We can not go after a legitimate Center or any other role player because we are locked into his ridiculous salary. Josh yes you have to trade because he has in my opinion better stock value. I know everyone loves Al but to be honest he is not that good either. All NBA team at center show us just how weak the NBA is right now when it comes to great big men. In my opinion we are stuck like chuck. Even if we tried to trade Josh, I am sure the Lakers will be trying to get Dwight Howard that said I am sure Orlando has learn their Shaq lesson. Dwight is probably going to leave but they had better do a sign and trade deal I am almost sure that deal would include Bynum. Lets point, I dont know what you guys are smoke but the person who suggest that Artest would add greater value that Josh is plan tripping. Josh I am sure will be a Allstar on a team with the right coaches and real floor leader something we desperately need here.

CJ

May 25th, 2011
11:45 am

I can think of at least 100 players I’d rather have than Gilbert Arenas.

ByteMe

May 25th, 2011
11:45 am

Joe Johnson for (sign and trade) Dwight Howard. That’s the blockbuster trade that makes our team better. Keep Kirk and Teague in the backcourt and sign a backup shooter if you can’t get Jamal to take the mid-exemption.

Get Real Hawks Fans

May 25th, 2011
11:49 am

Right on Don, Right on! All the Josh haters will see.

Baddabing

May 25th, 2011
11:49 am

I don’t want to give up Hinrich as we are going to lose Crawford and will need his defense and outside shot. We also need to resign Wilkins who proved his worth as a very capable backup. I think replacing Josh a sometimes malcontent with Artest and Bynum, most of the time malcontents is a step in the wrong direction. I’d trade Smith only if we get a bonafide defensive big man starter or two that are good team players, otherwise send him to Dr. Phil for counseling. Also, resign Josh Powell and send Marvin to some Tony what’s his names motivational workshops.

sports lady

May 25th, 2011
11:50 am

BAD IDEA.. .. Artest and Bynum are two troublesome men… Who needs their bad attitudes..that will make the whole team look bad…
behind Bynum last performance… he doesn’t need to be playing baseketball anymore… he needs to be home thinking about the awful performance and bad impression he left on everyone

GT #1

May 25th, 2011
11:50 am

Terrible idea. Bynum is never healthy for long, and plays well less often than Smith does. He also has some temper issues, apparent in the most recent postseason. Hawks need something legitimate if they move Smith, and a sometimes good, often hurt center for a sometimes stellar Smith is not it. Artest brings nothing major to the table either as he is rapidly moving past his years of significant value.

James

May 25th, 2011
11:51 am

I read recently that Josh Smith will be the hottest commodity for teams seeking trades over the summer.Why is that? Could NBA execs know more than fair weather Atlanta fans? Billy Knight sure as heck knew more than the “expert” Jay Bilas when it came to Josh.People, the problem players with the Hawks are the ones that no other teams want.They have the highest paid plyer in the NBA and nobody else wants him.If Lebron James was on the trade block right now would there be takers? Guess what Joe Johnson makes more money!! That is not Josh Smith’s fault..

sports lady

May 25th, 2011
11:52 am

Josh Smith is a real player… how is tired of the media bashing him…. yes he takes bad shot selections sometimes.. but at least he is a good.. .consistant player with a positive attitude.. one that can be molded and changed… Artest and Bynum are two old players who needs to sit down and watch now… they have had their time.. .and didn’t make a great impression.. and ending their time on even a worst impression.. STOP HATING ON JOSH>>> HE IS A TEAM PLAYER

CarieSaul

May 25th, 2011
11:52 am

Artest, Odom and Bynum are all hoodlems and bullies for the Lakers. Artest is a cheap shot artist from years past. Artest has influenced Bynum and Odom to be dirty players like he is. I think David Stern should have kicked Artest, Bynum and Odom out of the league for their cheap shots against the Mavericks. None of those three guys should ever be allowed back in an NBA uniform again.

ATLien

May 25th, 2011
11:52 am

They couldn’t perform in LA they definitely won’t perform in Atlanta.

Get Real Hawks Fans

May 25th, 2011
11:53 am

ByteMe, I raise you an octet. Joe is not movable plan and simple he is Atl’s Allan Houston. Look at the number they are very similar. I blame his contract on the current owners. There desire to sell the team caused them to make a bone head decision even if it means years of lost championship dreams. Last summer was the year to build for the future instead they knew the sell of the team was likely, rather than risk losing value they sign Joe. Not to Win but to make the team attractive for potential buyers. Until we move Joe we will forever exit in the 2nd round.

mj

May 25th, 2011
11:55 am

Andrew bogut might be an option too…

PMC

May 25th, 2011
11:57 am

Is Bynum ever healthy?