NFL pie fight over Cam Newton’s future ignores TDs, wins

Cam Newton, with father Cecil (center) and mother Jackie (bottom center), was honored by the Georgia legislature last Friday.

Cam Newton, with father Cecil (center) and mother Jackie when he was honored Friday by Georgia legislature, has faced some unwarranted criticism leading up to draft. (AP photo).

NFL general managers go to great lengths to probe every conceivable aspect of a player’s psyche and background, which would lead you to believe that the draft is a far more exact science than two teenagers seeking their fortunes on a Ouija board. Sometimes, it isn’t.

We cite as examples: JaMarcus Russell and his spin on the protein shake (“purple drank”); Ryan Leaf and his fully developed cranium of a two-year-old; Michael Vick’s sudden and previously unknown desire to become an entrepreneur, somewhere back in the woods in painted black sheds in Surry County, Virginia.

Which brings us to Cam Newton.

He is possibly the most dissected potential first overall draft pick we’ve ever seen, and the debate about his future is creating household names of people like Nolan Nawrocki – who until last week lived in relative Google anonymity. The debate also has prompted one of Newton’s mentors, Warren Moon, to foolishly play the race card.

My kingdom for a mute button.

The worst thing about being a member of the 24/7 media these days is finding yourself central to these nonsensical circuses. Unfortunately, the loud pie fights won’t end until Newton is on a field again.

Moon's charges of racism seem baseless.

Moon's charges of racism seem baseless, even if ...

Newton, a native of College Park, was in the relatively controlled surroundings of the state Capitol the other day when he was honored by the Georgia Legislature. While he managed to bring professional pie fighters together under one gold dome, this is what swirled around him:

Nawrocki, a draft analyst for Pro Football Weekly, issued his

... Nawrocki probably took analysis too far.

... Nawrocki probably took his analysis too far.

scouting report on Newton and and parts of it read like an old Saturday Night Live skit, when Dan Aykroyd would turn to Jane Curtain during “Point/Counterpoint” and say: “Jane, you ignorant slut.”

Some of Nawrocki’s “negatives” on Newton: “Very disingenuous. Has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement. Makes him believe he is above the law. Does not command respect from teammates. Always will struggle to win a locker room. Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness. Not punctual. Immature. Not dependable.”

Left unsaid: whether his feet stink.

Moon, a member of the Hall of Fame, responded to this criticism in an unusual way: “A lot of the criticism is unfortunate and racially based.” And the media inferno spread.

Ever witness a debate in which you wanted nothing to do with either side?

Nawrocki gets paid to critique players, so he can say and write what he likes. But remarks like Newton “has a fake smile” and is “very disingenuous,” are just silly. Nawrock admits he never has had a conversation with Newton so that’s kind of a strange leap to make. (Also, how does a quarterback engineer a 14-0 season without winning over a locker room?)

Moon’s general feelings about race and the draft are understandable. He wasn’t drafted in 1978 and began his career in Canada. But the NFL hasn’t been a whites-only quarterback league for some time. The time line stretches from Doug Williams to Josh Freeman, with Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair and dozens of others in between.

When Moon suggested no white QBs had to face this kind of pre-draft criticism, was he counting Tim Tebow?

Here’s what we know about Newton: Athletically, he has few peers at the quarterback position. He just completed arguably the single greatest season by a college player: a BCS title, an undefeated season, Heisman Trophy, 30 passing touchdowns, 20 rushing TDs in his only year as starter at an SEC school.

The debate rages on as to what he knew and when he knew it regarding his recruiting process. We know his father, Pastor Cecil “Huggy Bear” Newton, did everything but list his son on Craigslist with the words, “Available for $10,000 and fur-lined pulpit, or best offer.” But regardless of whether Cam Newton is dirty or clean, few athletes ever have faced the same pressure, adversity and scrutiny, and responded so well on the field.

If Carolina takes Newton with the first pick, it will be because of those tangibles. Eventually, we’ll learn if Newton’s perceived flaws will submarine his career. But until I see something other than touchdowns and wins, I’ll assume the rest is empty noise.

By Jeff Schultz

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dawg4u

April 3rd, 2011
9:20 pm

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SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
9:21 pm

trupert, i love your Chizik summary above……you forgot to add he is 22-5 in two sesons at AU…Kiss the Ring’

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:24 pm

@ SEC fan. Just looked it up. So a girl friend loaned King $500 with her depositing $300 directly into his banking account. The fact that his girl friend left a money trail strongly suggest that this is no Bobby Lowder type pay off.

I’ll see your, Kings girl friend loaned him $500 and then deposited $300 of it into his bank account thereby leaving a great money trail and raise you with five out of the last six Auburn coaches being caught and implicated in a real play-for-pay scheme. Something tells me Mark Richt won’t lose any sleep over a loan between friends.

Icenupe

April 3rd, 2011
9:25 pm

I have a question, when IS it about race? Every time this topic gets brought up, it gets quickly dismissed as “No race has nothing to do with it”. When President Obama gets unfairly critized over a deficit he didn’t create, its “never” about race. When Michael Vick pays his debt to society and puts his best foot forward to rehab it’s image, it’s “never” about race. So when Cam Newton, gets crucified and judged about his smile and accusations yet to be proven, what is it about? Warren Moon, as many other Black QB’s during his era (see Condredge Holloway, Willie Totten, and Damon Allen as examples) were all told they couldn’t play QB in the NFL or were asked to change positions, SOME of the valid reasons were size or competition level, but the real reason was primarily due to their race. Warren Moon doesn’t have to apologize for how he feels. A lot of us STILL feel this way inherently due to our history in this country. If any GM or scout is dumb enough to spit out the N word or blatently say what could be a valid point as Warren Moon feels in this era of the media and internet, it would be colossally stupid. Don’t be so quick to always dismiss race being a factor. Race relations have gotten better, but we still have a long ways to go in this country. If Charlie Sheen was Black, no way he would be “winning”.

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
9:27 pm

TRUPERT
Funny thing is KING threatened the ex-girlfriend that he was not going to pay her back. If she kept bring it up he was going to release naked pictures of her on the Internet.

The Falcon Jedi

April 3rd, 2011
9:31 pm

Cam Newton is following the path of Tim Tebow. And Tebow is not a good NFL QB. Scrambling QBs who cant read Defenses and bad mechanics just dont work in the NFL.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
9:32 pm

Again, we haven’t been on any type of probation since 1994′, not one issue with our last three coaches…look at their NCAA records….

Do you really think uga is perfectly clean? I love Richt but he has no idea what boosters/Garner are doing and you know that…it is funny but hasn’t UGA “outrecruited” Au for much of the last 10 years?

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:35 pm

SEC Fan. You are right, Chizik has no proved violations as of yet. Just keep those fingers crossed and hold your breath and hope because the NCAA is on it’s way, it’s a slow train but it’s already at Auburn and it won’t be long before you will be kissing those bought and paid for rings good bye.

Say what you want about Bowden, but he admitted to a pay-for-play scheme but I guess that like the HBO fab four he was motivated by an overwhelming desire to make himself look bad and these five peoples statements have no merit at all.

Auburn fans should either want their program cleaned up or if not they should show their true colors and embrace it, Way to embrace it, SEC Fan.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
9:37 pm

Give me your Bowden pay for play scheme link……you just broke another story nobody knows about

skinny pimp

April 3rd, 2011
9:39 pm

All the negatives are pretty much how he was at Westlake High….Big time jerk!

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:40 pm

With the recent Auburn situation, it seems like a good idea to take a look back at recent Auburn history. Remember Terry Bowden and his sudden resignation from Auburn University? Do you also remember an interview he did in 2001 where he openly talks about Auburn recruiting violations and “pay-for-play” players? Now seems like a good time to take a second look at that interview and remember what he claimed was going on at Auburn. Interview Below:

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Interview with Terry Bowden April 24, 2001, at his Loachapoka ranch.

Also present was Paul Davis. After our interview, Bowden was expecting a visit from Dr. Muse that same day at his ranch. Former Auburn University football coach Terry Bowden says the program he inherited in 1993 included an elaborate system of paying star high school players up to $15,000 to sign with Auburn and $600 per month while on the team.

In a lengthy interview from the ranch he still owns in Loachapoka, Bowden alleged that the “pay-for-play” system was orchestrated by powerful AU Board of Trustees member Bobby Lowder and carried out by former assistant coach Wayne Hall.

Bowden said the corruption extended to former head coach Pat Dye, and included $30,000 to Atlanta attorneys for Gene Jelks in order to sustain the former University of Alabama player while he leveled charges of wrongdoing in the Crimson Tide program.

Bowden said he learned of the major NCAA infractions within days of being named Auburn ’s head coach, but kept quiet while trying to clean up the program from within.” I broke the rules,” Bowden said. “I told Wayne Hall to pay it off to the players we already had and it will never happen again.

I was hiding a dirty secret.” Bowden said the payment of players can be traced to Lowder, who Bowden said is the unquestioned leader of the AU athletic department.” Nothing was done without Lowder knowing.” Wayne Hall and Pat Dye paid $30,000 for lawyers in Atlanta to keep Gene Jelks talking.

This came from the money that had been used to pay Auburn players.In 1991 when I was at Samford, Wayne Hall called to ask about a job for Katherine Lowder at Samford. Bobby Lowder then called and he said he would contribute money to Samford equal to Katherine’s salary as long as we didn’t tell her where the money came from. Katherine and my wife became good friends.

Then the Eric Ramsey thing hit. One day Katherine sticks her head in my office door and says, “Dye is leaving and my dad wants you to be coach at Auburn .” Dye resigned a week later. Lowder made him resign because Lowder was sure Auburn was going to get the death penalty if he didn’t resign.

I met with Lowder, Mike McCarter and Ruel Russell at Ruel’s office in Birmingham . They asked me all the questions, and I thought it was a job interview. Then they said, we need to get you an interview. They got John Montgomery Sr. to officially recommend me to be interviewed. The night before the interview, Lowder told me “here’s how the interview will go.”

This was three hours on the phone like a lawyer prepping his client. There were six candidates – Larry Smith, Mack Brown, Dick Sheridan, Pat Sullivan, Wayne Hall and me. Everyone agreed that whoever the coach was going to be, the decision had to be unanimous. I think Lowder wanted Wayne Hall, but he knew he couldn’t get him approved. I was the backup.

I was the last to interview, then the committee immediately took a vote that day. Somebody was opposed to every candidate until they voted on me last. That’s how I got the job. Lowder said he wanted me to hire Wayne Hall as an assistant.

Tommy (Bowden, Terry’s brother and a member of the Pat Dye staff) told me that if you wanted anything done you gotta go through Hall. My second day on the job (athletic director Mike) Lude said “you can’t hire Hall.” But then I understand Lowder called and said that if I couldn’t hire Hall we will find a new president.

So I hired Wayne Hall. One week on the job, Hall came in with a ledger of players who have been paid, who paid the money, how much money and when it was paid. He said we’ve still got 9-12 players that we’re paying $600 per month.

We paid then $12,000-$15,000 to sign. We sign about four every year that we pay.(Former assistant coach Rodney) Garner paid most of the players. He was paid when he was a player at Auburn.(Stacey) Danley is the assistant compliance guy, and he was paid when he was a player. I broke the rules. I said pay it off, and it will never happen again.

Hall said “OK, but you will change your mind.” Katherine came to Auburn as my assistant, but she worked for Colonial. We were real close. I told Lowder “We have cash all over.” Lowder said “I told Wayne not to collect more than we had to have to pay the players.” Wayne had a safe in his house wherehe kept the money. Within two weeks of me being hired they told me about paying Jelks.

Nothing was done without Lowder knowing. I will go under oath and say that Lowder looked me in the eyes and said, “I didn’t want Wayne to collect more money than we needed to pay the players.” I was hiding a dirty secret. We were paying (star running back and current Washington Redskin) Steve Davis and his cousin the fullback.

It took about two years to get it all cleaned up. Most the guys we were paying weren’t any good and weren’t helping us win games. Steve Davis was the exception.

Here is how it works, fifty to 60 men give $5,000 per year. Wayne would collect it. These are all good men. They didn’t ask questions. The coach tells them that everybody cheats so we have to. My first two years we went 11-0 and 9-0-1.

My third year, (assistants Jimbo) Fisher and (Rick) Trickett said, “Hall is on the phone a lot with Lowder.” I thought he was going back to cheating. I told Hall that when the season was over he needed to move on.

I told Garner that I was taking him off coaching for a year. That was the beginning of the end for me. Jimmy Rane was in on all of this. He is high maintenance. Three current Board of Trustees members gave cash to players – Rane, Spina and McWhorter.

Jimmy is a wannabe, a jock sniffer, a loose cannon. He wants to be involved in everything. After I fired Wayne , (athletic director David) Housel came on. I don’t dislike David, but David would get his feelings hurt if I called Lowder.

I told David what Wayne was doing. Lowder said (of Housel) “He’s not a good AD, but he’s my AD.” David Dideon compliance guy, Jay Jacobs parking passes, Tim Jackson tickets. All are GAF members. Gerald Leschuck was keeping Lowder informed.

By my last year I’m having my house checked for bugs. Danny Rane (son of Jimmy Rane and a walk-on Auburn player) was giving our practice tapes to Mississippi State , our opponent. Tommy Tuberville had been promised the job if we lost to Alabama in the game when we kicked the field goal here to win.

After that season, I thought about taking the University of Texas job, but (Governor Fob) James was getting rid of Lowder. Then Lowder stayed on the Board and I was stuck. I thought then that I needed to win one more year and get out.

When I got here Lowder said don’t talk to Muse, he’s weak and his wife is a n—-r lover. Lowder told me John Denson was trying to kill him. The last week I was coach: Monday – The Huntsville Tmes runs a story that says an undisclosed sources says that Bowden has lost the confidence of the Board of Trustees and he must win four of the last five games to keep his job.

I lied to my staff and told them that I had talked to Lowder, the story was not true and everything was OK. I was trying to keep up morale. Tuesday – (Defensive coordinator Bill) Oliver brings a hidden tape recorder into our coaches meeting. I believe this was because Lowder wanted to have proof that I told a lie about talking to him the day before. Wednesday – I had a 7 a.m. meeting with Housel.

He asked if I had seen the article in the Huntsville Times. He said he had talked to Lowder, and Lowder wanted me to know that he was the undisclosed source.

He said he also wants you to know that he doesn’t care if you win five of your next six, you’re out. David said the only way I would keep my job was if Fob James wins (the governor’s race). Thursday – I brought in my lawyer, Ricky Davis, and said to David that I wanted to resign.

He called Lowder while we were in his office and we worked out a settlement. Muse didn’t even know. They were using Oliver. They were never going to hire him. When I resigned it shocked them.

Interview with Terry Bowden—

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MountainDawg

April 3rd, 2011
9:41 pm

He’s going to have a whale of a time trying to read NFL defenses & deal w/ the superior speed in the NFL. Add to that, his inconsistency in passing accuracy, & he’s definitely not worth any 1st round pick.

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:43 pm

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
9:44 pm

Yeah, that was not under his time but Dyes…UGA has “money” men too, ask Don Leebern/Garner how it works…Again, no probation since 94′ Kiss the Ring’

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:48 pm

SEC FAN, So it dosen’t matter if you cheat, as long as you don’t have to pay for it. Now I see your logic. Yes no sanctions for Bowden.

How is the view from down there, with your head so firmly stuck in the sand?

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
9:53 pm

SEC FAN, again you need to read up on your Auburn history. Yes this is the way it was done under Dye but This is Bowden talking about how it was done while he (Bowden) was the coach at Auburn.

So I hired Wayne Hall. One week on the job, Hall came in with a ledger of players who have been paid, who paid the money, how much money and when it was paid. He said we’ve still got 9-12 players that we’re paying $600 per month.

We paid then $12,000-$15,000 to sign. We sign about four every year that we pay.(Former assistant coach Rodney) Garner paid most of the players. He was paid when he was a player at Auburn.(Stacey) Danley is the assistant compliance guy, and he was paid when he was a player. I broke the rules. I said pay it off, and it will never happen again.

Hall said “OK, but you will change your mind.” Katherine came to Auburn as my assistant, but she worked for Colonial. We were real close. I told Lowder “We have cash all over.” Lowder said “I told Wayne not to collect more than we had to have to pay the players.” Wayne had a safe in his house wherehe kept the money. Within two weeks of me being hired they told me about paying Jelks.

BabsTolstoy

April 3rd, 2011
9:53 pm

Trupert, any thoughts on why the NCAA ignored this detailed account from Bowden? If it were true as you clearly believe and if Mr. Bowden was so anxious to have the story be told, wouldn’t the NCAA care? The content that you posted makes the HBO story seem tame by comparison. Do these sorts of inconsistencies matter to you? Do you know what I’m asking, do I need to type slower? Just so you know, Auburn was on probation in the early 90’s, more or less 20 years ago. They have not been on probation since and are not on probation now. As my friend says-kiss the ring, it’s as close as you’ll get.

Jeff Schultz

April 3rd, 2011
9:54 pm

4 Jacks — If Cam Newton knows where the camera is, I’m not sure that separates him from a lot of pro athletes, many of whom are in the Hall of Fame.

Peerless

April 3rd, 2011
9:56 pm

Very disingenuous. Has a fake smile, comes off as very scripted and has a selfish, me-first makeup. Always knows where the cameras are and plays to them. Has an enormous ego with a sense of entitlement. Makes him believe he is above the law. Does not command respect from teammates. Always will struggle to win a locker room. Lacks accountability, focus and trustworthiness. Not punctual. Immature. Not dependable.

He’s talking about A.J. Green, right?

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
9:56 pm

No, I wish there was no cheating in College Football, I just stated that Bowden/Tubs/Chiz all have great reputations with the NCAA and don’t have any record…I hate what is going on but I do know that UGA/UF/AU/UT/UA all do the same crap…so if you really think the UGA never pays anything to players you my friend have your head stuck the sand…Call Frank Sanders (WR in the mid 90’s at AU) ask him what the recruiting “coach” at UGA offered him….All these programs have “rules” that they follow and are okay with it, what happned with Albert Means was Alabama went over the “cap” and UT turned them in…They police themselves and now with the internet etc..the cheating can’t go down like it did in the 70’s 80’s, 90’s

Tired Of It

April 3rd, 2011
10:02 pm

The only reason you guys are mad at Cecil and Cam is because they decided to keep the money for themselves instead of allowing crooked people to exploit him. You know the traditional crooked exploiters that screamed foul because they(the Newtons) looked out for themselves, and cut the crooked exploiters out of the loop. It’s as obvious as the shadiness of their crooked skins, and they’re crying out because they don’t want any other blacks to wise up and do the same. It’s like every other benefit in this country, and when other races start to catch on to the system, they start crying foul and want to bring it to an end, but as long as only the traditional exploiters benefit it’s all good!!! I say ‘right on’ Newtons, keep on cutting them out of the loop and let them bit.. & moan about it all they like

Asterisk

April 3rd, 2011
10:04 pm

Auburn Tigers – 2010 National Champions**

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
10:05 pm

Baps Tolstoy, Don’t know a hard and fast answer to your question, maby he waited untill the NCAA’s four year statute of limitations was up.

Bowden, now ABC’s college football studio analyst, credits Lowder for his hiring and eventual firing, as well as alleging that Lowder was involved in a deep rooted, pay-for-play scheme in place when Bowden was hired almost a decade ago. (ABC and ESPN are part of The Walt Disney Co.)

Wanting to have a public record in case anything happened to him, Bowden agreed to a lengthy tape-recorded interview with Paul Davis of the Opelika-Auburn News in 2001. In transcripts reviewed by ESPN.com, Bowden said he was so stressed about Lowder during his last year at Auburn that he told Davis, “I’m having my house checked for bugs.”

Bowden also said it was Lowder who convinced Dye to resign at the end of the 1992 season, fearing ex-player Eric Ramsey’s allegations of pay-for-play at Auburn might expose the larger scheme and result in stricter NCAA sanctions. As his Auburn tenure drew to a close, Bowden said Housel acknowledged that Lowder was the source of a newspaper story indicating the trustees had lost confidence in him.

“Housel said, ‘Lowder wanted you to know he doesn’t care if you win five of your next six [games], you’re out,’ ” Bowden told Davis. “David said the only way I would keep my job was if Fob James wins [the governor's race against Siegelman].”

Bowden refused to be interviewed for this story, citing a confidentiality agreement he signed as part of a contract settlement that forbids him from making “negative or derogatory” comments “toward Auburn, the Auburn athletic department or its employees, or the Auburn Board of Trustees, or each other.” By keeping quiet, Bowden protected a $620,000 payment, as well as an $825,000 lakeside home and two cars.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
10:05 pm

I guess Garner doesn’t pay for any players anymore?

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
10:09 pm

I guess not. There is no reason to think he would be doing it while at UGA, since Mr Lowder is not running the show and is therefore not directing him to do so.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
10:11 pm

All these schools do the same thing and if you don’t believe it your head is in the sand…Bama went over the “gentlemen” cap with Albert Means and that is why UT turned them in, call Frank Sanders (WR in mid 90’s at AU) and ask him what his offer was from UGA? I had a hour long conversation with him 3 years ago about his recruitiment, interesting stuff….I wish it were all clean and for the most part it really is compared to the 70’s,80’s, 90’s…

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
10:12 pm

Do you think ALL the DREAM TEAM just love UGA so much? UGA has not been in the National Championship Picture since 1980-82, but all the DREAM TEAM just were DIEING to be DAWGS. Give is little time and I think some stuff may come out about the UGA class of 2011. Maybe not or maybe so. Bobo is the Great Offensive Mind these kids trust with their careers? A coach on the hot seat after 6-7, but he can compete with LSU, BAMA, AUBURN, and FLORIDA who all have a National Championship Tiffany Crystal Football?

Dirty Dawg

April 3rd, 2011
10:15 pm

hey SECFan, et. al., nobody ever said that Cam wasn’t worth the money…and I expect hell be paid a ton in the NFL.

Somebody also asked how Georgia’s last #1 guy, Stafford, was doing. Obviously he’s been hurt way too much and it remains to be seen if his shoulder surgery will mean he’ll be as good as he needs to be…but one thing he does have that Cam will never have…$30 million guaranteed and up to $50 million on his first contact…Even Bobby Lowder doesn’t have that much – any more at least.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
10:16 pm

BTW, Mr. Lowder has about 1/3 of his power as he used too and Leebern “runs” the show alot more at uga than Lowder at AU these days..Is Leebern still living with your gym coach?..Lowder wanted no part of Chizik, Jay Jacobs made that call and got crucified for it at the time…Rane/Lowder etc..didn’t want Chiz and at the time I didn’t either but he was always a great DC and now it looks like he is a pretty good coach….Its been fun in debate class…Goodnight and good luck next year except the AU game..

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
10:20 pm

Dirty Dawg
I said congrats to Stafford for pulling the wool over the LION’s EYES to get that contract. He and his Agent did a great job. The problem is Stafford will never be worth the cost of the paper and ink that contract was produced with.

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
10:21 pm

SEC Fan, you may be right, UGA and Mark Richt may be paying players but I have never heard anything pointing toward it and UGA has no real history of doing it.

There are alot of rumors out there about several teams paying players and giving sexual favors at LSU and OS but I just don’t see Richt doing it and UGA has never been shown to have any history with it.

Bottom line, I don’t want Ga doing it even if every other team is and if I ever find out that it’s happening at UGA I will not support it. I’m out of here.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
10:23 pm

and I don’t want AU doing it either, I don’t believe any head coach is involved in any of this, it’s the stupid boosters

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
10:25 pm

trupert
UGA did give Herschel benefits. Many UGA recruits were too dumb to know to get money. Jan kemp exposed how UGA was helping it’s players. UGA was just smart enough to get kids too dumb to know to get paid.

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
10:29 pm

We know UGA didn’t pay AJ because he did a dumb thing in selling his jersey. UGA was not paying people last year for sure. Now to get the DREAM TEAM we will have to see how UGA got all these players.

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
10:39 pm

51, UGA got caught giving grades to kids and paid a stiff price and is still paying it to this day.

UGA has the second highest entrance requirements in the SEC next to Vandy and it’s because the school decided to raise the entrance standard to punish itself and to show that things had changed. UGA has lost alot of boarder line recruits over the years because of it.

I could say that every team is doing it and make excuses but I’m glad Ga learned it’s lesson and is not doing it anymore.

SEC FAN>

April 3rd, 2011
10:47 pm

UGA let Caleb King in school, a kid that went to GAC so he didn’t have take exit exam at Parkview, he also went to 3 schools in three years…UGA is not even close to Vandy in requirements…The Big 6 recruit the same prospects every year….There are no Prop 48 kids at any SEC school anymore…that is why you see the Central FL of world getting good talent…Didn’t UGA get two JUCOS this year?

trupert

April 3rd, 2011
11:00 pm

Say what you want. UGA is second to Vandy and has a slightly higher standard for entrance to every other SEC school. Like I said, UGA raised the standard in response to the grades scandal.

Dirty Dawg

April 3rd, 2011
11:01 pm

Hey 51wtg50 – what is that anyway some kind of motor oil? Your ‘deflecting’ with trying to claim that Georgia’s current recruiting class was dirty and that one day things will come out.,,tell you what, I’ll wager my mortgage against yours that there will never, ever, be as much crap, even alleged (by some ‘official’ source, not some scumbag) about players being paid to play at UGA as has already been ‘proven’ against Auburn.

And as for your crack about questioning if Bobo, and I assume Richt since Bobo has been either the QBC and/or OC since Richt’s been there, he/we have a winning record against all but UF…and it’ll go up from there this year. Look forward to hearing from you when Uncle Milty ‘cops a plea’ and throws you guys under the bus…after all he ain’t an AU grad and Bobby Lowder can’t help him anymore.

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
11:11 pm

Dirty Dawg.
I didn’t say UGA will get busted, but we might have to wait a second to see if the DREAM TEAM is all that and FREE too.
Richt has a winning record that has been going down hill for the last 4 years. UGA still will not get a shot at the MNC during this Dream Teams time at UGA. Would you like to bet your mortgage on that?
Sorry I have not had a mortgage since 1997.

PFloyd87

April 3rd, 2011
11:26 pm

Would someone please tell SEC FAN that it’s a “laptop” not a “labtop”. Geez…buffoon.

Jeff Schultz

April 3rd, 2011
11:36 pm

Joe — I would repeat the same thing about NFL GMs. How can they know a smile is fake? But it also gets back to what was stated earlier. A fake smile neither guarantees nor precludes success.

51WTGW50

April 3rd, 2011
11:44 pm

Interesting that there is a National Championship Basketball tomorrow night and we are talking about a football player. A football player without a JOB and don’t even know if we will have NFL next year.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 3rd, 2011
11:49 pm

I really wonder what the consensus on this exact same blog would be about Newton if he had done exactly what he did for Auburn, but for UGA instead. How much of this criticism would be excuse-making instead?

Dirty Dawg

April 3rd, 2011
11:50 pm

Congrats, synthetic motor-oil person, does ‘not having a mortgage mean you’re renting, living on the street, living with your kids, or have you just paid it off?’ Guess we’ll have to think of something else for you to wager – and tell you what, I’ll bet whatever you wish that Georgia will win another National Championship, but it’ll be after Auburn has had to vacate the one they just got…how’s that work for you?

And as for the Dream Team, I never said you said they would get ‘busted’…you said ‘things will come out’ – whatever that means, and I don’t mean scumbag trolls’ MSU (the first and last words are ‘making’ and ‘up’…and also, you say Richt’s record – again I assume you’re talking about those four teams you listed – UF, UA, AU, and LSU. Fact is he has a .500 record against those guys since ‘06 but is one game under .500 since he’s been at UGA – that doesn’t sound like ‘going down-hill’ against ‘em, or is there a different math being used over there?

Najeh Davenpoop

April 3rd, 2011
11:55 pm

“I’m just not a big fan of the QBs coming from spread offenses in College. I prefer the pro style QBs (Ryan, Sanchez, & Stafford) coming out of College, they’re more ready to read Pro D’s, & they’ve played under center before. ”

Pro style QBs require less coaching in the pros. If a scrambling/spread QB lands on a team with a coaching staff that knows how to develops quarterbacks (see Donovan McNabb for example) he’ll be fine. If a scrambling/spread QB ends up with a coaching staff that doesn’t have a clue about developing quarterbacks (see Michael Vick for example) his road to becoming an efficient passer will probably be steeper.

51WTGW50

April 4th, 2011
12:01 am

Dirty Dawg Richt’s SEC record is going and has been going down hill for the last 4 yrs.
My home is paid for thank you.
What have you seen that makes you think the DAWGS will be close to the MNC anytime soon? Your best bet is UT is bad, UF ain’t much better, AU is rebuilding, USC is always and also ran. UGA should be able to win the EAST, but I don’t think that gets the DAWGS in the BCS game much less winning it. If Bobo is still the coach he will crap his pants. Hell he couldn’t even beat O’Leary and UCF last year.

51WTGW50

April 4th, 2011
12:03 am

Najeh
You know the answer to that. UGA fans would be defending CAM and Fairley if they both played for the DAWGS.

Nick Felony

April 4th, 2011
12:12 am

Me like play football. Me like touch pretty girl. Hair silky.

sCam Newton

April 4th, 2011
12:17 am

Wuzup Playaz! Don’t be hatin! My daddy aint no preacher, he’s a Bishop!

Praise the Lowd, we love us some Gawd in the Newton family. Instead of manna falling from the skies and into our hands, God puts laptops into our hands.

Daddy brings the offering plate on recruiting visits just in case any these coaches need to drop some foldin’ money on the Holy Zion Center of Deliverance.

Yes We sCam! Yes We sCam! Yes We sCam! Yes We sCam! Yes We sCam!

The Thin Guy

April 4th, 2011
12:52 am

Newton takes a big pay cut when he becomes a pro. And he’ll have to report his new salary as income tax. You can never tell what will happen. The New England QB was a low draft pick and Brian Bozworth was a No 1.