Report: Mark Fox may be targeted for opening at N.C. State

D-Day

March 14th, 2011
10:21 pm

Solid coaches always attract attention. Well done Mr. Fox, but hope you stick around.

Caleb's Sports Corner

March 14th, 2011
10:23 pm

Yay first!! And if the bulldogs go deep in the tourney I don’t think Mark Fox will leave, then again he still probably won’t even if they get knocked out in the first round

Sonny Clusters

March 14th, 2011
10:26 pm

Don’t let the fox guard the hen house. Is that the right way to say it? Can a fox coach a wolf? Will a wolf respect a fox? Many questions.

SonOfBoh

March 14th, 2011
10:27 pm

NCState for UGA? No thank you.

sports

March 14th, 2011
10:28 pm

sorry jeffery, Fox isn’t going anywhere…he’s just getting started!!!!!

Say what?

March 14th, 2011
10:28 pm

SportsbyBrooks?
Is that the website of the proverbial 12 year old in the basement?

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:29 pm

NC State better lower their sites. No Way Barnes or Miller would leave prime jobs for NC State.

Ron Jirsa

March 14th, 2011
10:32 pm

GO Mr Fox, I deserve to get my job back!

Michael

March 14th, 2011
10:33 pm

I can’t see him leaving UGA for NCSU. That’s not a “Tubby Smith going home to basketball powerhouse UK” type situation, and we can match any offer NCSU throws at him if money is the issue. I would be more concerned if some western/midwestern powerhouse program came to him and offered him an opportunity to go back home (or closer to it).

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:33 pm

I love the job that Coach Fox has done. I just hate that everytime a coach’s name is mentioned by another school they end up with a hefty raise.

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:35 pm

Jeff you are right….Brooks is a former Dawg and he has broken some pretty big stories recently.

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:36 pm

Jeff…How high would UGA go for a basketball coach?

Dawgs??

March 14th, 2011
10:39 pm

You guys are crazy. NC State is a way better job than UGA. UGA is a second rate basketball program that will never compete for championships. It’s night and day between those two schools in basketball. Keep drinking the koolaid….lol…UGA good at basketball.

SoCal Dawg

March 14th, 2011
10:40 pm

Fox may leave some day but not for NC ST.

3DawgKnight

March 14th, 2011
10:41 pm

From all that I read and hear.
Coach Fox’s [son] is all Dawg.
That would have some bearing…
I hope.

Brian F.

March 14th, 2011
10:41 pm

It would be horrible to have to start over. I don’t believe he will leave for that job though !!

Hm

March 14th, 2011
10:42 pm

I forgot that Georgia had that far reaching basketball tradition. Oh, that’s right, they did go to the Final Four once. In 1983. They lost in the semis, I seem to recall…oh yeah! That was to NC State.

Typical article that ignores historical context and the status of life on Tobacco Road. Lots more could be said, but why waste the time?

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:42 pm

NC State is the only the 4th best job in their state!

VA DAWG

March 14th, 2011
10:44 pm

As much as I love what Fox has done the last two years, I believe its a little early for a raise. He’s already getting a bonus for making it to the tourney. I say wait till next year and if he can get us to the tourney without TJ or TT or both, then i would argue that he should get a hefty raise (500k+ a year). As we’ve seen what happened on the avenue, we shouldn’t bite too early b/c we may pay dearly down the road (although I believe CMF is a much better X’s and O’s coach than PH). GO DAWGS, BEAT the HUSKIES!

SoCal Dawg

March 14th, 2011
10:45 pm

What has NC ST done since 83?

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:46 pm

Hm..been a long time since the glory days of Jimmy V.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
10:49 pm

One thing for sure, McGarity won’t sign anybody to a long term contract.

Didn’t do it with Richt after Richt won 90 games in 9 seasons.

mike

March 14th, 2011
10:49 pm

Kentucky and Florida right now are the only two consistent SEC basketball powerhouses. The buy out may keep him at Georgia but anything is possible. NC State basketball tradition cannot be ignored. They are much more passionate about their basketball than Georgia. In the long run it would be an upgrade.

south

March 14th, 2011
10:51 pm

VA DAWG – who is TJ??

Boise Dawg

March 14th, 2011
10:53 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I like Fox and hope we can retain him. I also hope this is just the beginning of a long run of success in Athens… that being said no need to get crazy and offer him $3 million a year quite yet.

Also, I am all for aiming high… but NC State is nuts if they think they are going to lure any successful coach from another major D1 program. There are only a handful of programs that can do that…. North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas come to mind… not NC State.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
10:54 pm

mike = south = DoolyDawg

same blogger, writing to himself.

Bored or what?

DoolyDawg

March 14th, 2011
10:57 pm

J Dog …got bored with your sister.

3DawgKnight

March 14th, 2011
10:58 pm

Dawgs??

UGA : Atl = One of, if not the best geocentrically
located universities in the country relative to
“basketball recruiting”.
*[flagship university within 50 (or so) miles from Atl]

Jumpin' Jack Jesse

March 14th, 2011
10:59 pm

Sports by Brooks is on my daily read list, also and he “poo-poos” the idea by describing how difficult Yow is to work with at NC St. Coach Fox stays in Athens this year. But, this won’t be the last time we hear coaching vacancies that have Fox’s name attached to them. And, that is a compliment to UGA (and even to the one who hired him…what was his name?!).

Dr Richard Handler

March 14th, 2011
10:59 pm

He’s goin to Arizona State to join the scum Devils. When the old NC State guy gets whacked!

DonnanDawg

March 14th, 2011
11:00 pm

J Dog-

You so smart man. I agree. McGarity comes across as guy who can’t decide, a guy who can’t vision, a man who cannot lead. McGarity wants recruits committing to Georgia, but McGarity will nto commit to his head coaches, has the SHORTEST contracts in the SEC. Not just head coaches, assistant coaches too.

McGarity is KILLING Georgia!!!

BobDawg

March 14th, 2011
11:00 pm

… Time for McGarity to do his job as Foley has done at Fla and keep our coaches intact… Mr Fox is about to get a nice pay raise….

JSS

March 14th, 2011
11:00 pm

This is why I stay away from placing my heart in institutions involved in the 18-22 year old stalking wars…

So we’ll see now if McGarrity defers from Dooley when the Wolves are literally at the door!

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:03 pm

DonnanDawg-

Who is QF6?

BobDawg

March 14th, 2011
11:03 pm

J Dawg, McGarity just got on the job this past summer…. We can’t judge him in 6 months time…. He just navigated the Football stink and we are looking upward with recruiting and now BBall having a successful season…

CrazyFox

March 14th, 2011
11:06 pm

Man, I love Mark Fox. This guy can coach at UGA for the rest of his career if he wants to. The fans love him, the Athletic department loves him, his players love him. Mark Fox is riding high right now. I mean, nobody even pointed the finger at him when he called that Timeout against Alabama, and he would have gotten nothing but praises for this season if the Dawgs didn’t make the Tourney after that. If he uses this rumor as leverage for a raise, give it to him. He deserves it. If he truly brings UGA to prominence, and we pay the man well, would he want to leave this newly prestigious program that he built from the ground up? I don’t think so. Then again, Calipari left Memphis, so you never know

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:12 pm

Hope basketball don’t start leaving like football coaches Searels & Belin did because McGarity underpaid them.

GIVE ME A BREAK

March 14th, 2011
11:12 pm

Someone needs to explain the value of time-outs to Fox. If used properly.

Dumb Dawgs

March 14th, 2011
11:13 pm

Time to do what we always do and overreact and hand out unwarranted pay raises. Fox did a very mediocre job this year with the talent he had. We routinely lost the close games and don’t go blaming the refs Dawg fans. But we should be used to rewarding mediocrity. Remember all those pay raises we handed out to Willie before we finally kicked him to the curb? Fox did a nice job after the mess of the previous administrations but I think he has a low glass ceiling. Let him go and make more money while we get a coach that’s not dumb enough to call a timeout with 0:00.8 seconds left as we hit a game winning shot. Just one of many inept coaching decisions. And what are we going to look like next year when our Power Forward who thinks he’s a guard goes to the NBA? Thompkins should ask Chris Webber about the perils of a big man bringing the ball up. Get in the paint you big sissy!

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:13 pm

I’ll say this, McGarity is the least supportive AD I’ve seen as far as pay & contracts go in the SEC, surprised Richt or Fox win any games without any leadership or commitment from leaders.

McGarity flunked Leadership.

JSS

March 14th, 2011
11:14 pm

“differs”

The Ghost of Wally Butts

March 14th, 2011
11:16 pm

Let’s just say this is….Tubby 2.0

The moment the “Tub” was successful in Athens, the Holy Land came calling…and off he went…

Perhaps one day…Athens will be the Holy Land of Basketball…but I am not holding my breath.

God Knows, we are doing all we can to keep a decent football coach these days!

Art Vandelay

March 14th, 2011
11:16 pm

It’s time for McGarity to prove that basketball really is a priority at UGA. Full disclosure: I’m a Gator, but I would absolutely hate to see Fox leave UGA just as they’re reaching respectability. There’s no reason UGA should be a stepping stone job anymore, considering the improved facilities, the excellent talent in the state and the fact that Tech has been rudderless for years and shows no real signs of returning to glory anytime soon. McGarity should make it clear that he’ll beat any offer Fox gets, both in terms of contract length and salary — make him Georgia’s Billy Donovan. Keep Fox around and UGA will be a perennial contender in the SEC — trust me, Dawg fans, it’s fun to be a basketball school!

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:16 pm

McGarity’s from 1950’s style leadership you know, crack the whip, hold people accountable, short term contracts, paid people as little as possible.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:17 pm

Does NC State have their players workiung out, in trailers, LIKE mCgARITY DID LAST SEASON?

NOW ONDER THE FOOTBALL & BASKETBALL TEAMS TIRE OUT IN THE END OF THE GAME????

brian

March 14th, 2011
11:19 pm

fox has a pretty solid class coming in. NO WAY he gets the same at friggen nc state give me a break. all we need now is the pf from tech to decommit cause we will need another when thompkins leaves. i think leslie will stay. this yr did not help his stock very much if at all

D A DoubleU G

March 14th, 2011
11:19 pm

What a MUCH greater situation than Tech is in.

Tech is coachless and pulling every former player’s name out as a candidate.

UGA is trying to keep their coach who is pursued by traditional great programs because he is awesome.

What time is Georgia Tech’s NIT tipoff this week????………. oh wait……

Dumb Dawgs

March 14th, 2011
11:19 pm

Searles and Belin left because if they stayed they would have been unemployed after this next season because our football team has rewarded mediocrity for so long there is no incentive to succeed. They can read the writing on the wall. Dawg fans are illiterate or blind. We should have won 25 games this year easy. And Richt should never have been allowed to return to Athens after kicking a field goal on the 1 yard line against UCF. Pathetic. Michael Adams might as well take away all our tailgaiting because there’s not much to celebrate.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:19 pm

Here’s Nick Saban’s Indoor facility:

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/alab/graphics/c-cheer-campweb-indoorfootball.jpg

Expand the list

March 14th, 2011
11:20 pm

Why not add Coach K to the list? None of the four are likely to be interested, so make it five.

D A DoubleU G

March 14th, 2011
11:20 pm

Dumb Dawgs = Techie Troll

5150 UOAD

March 14th, 2011
11:21 pm

Basketball coach at UGA is about #3 or #4 at UGA. Any ACC basketball is better than UGAs basketball Job.
UGA
1 Football
2 Gym Dawgs
3(tie) Tennis and Lady Dawgs Basketball
5(tie)Mens Basketball and Baseball

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:22 pm

McGarity splurdeg this year, and got Richt a 20 yard indoor rpactice field.

Alabama has a 120 yard.

http://georgia.247sports.com/Board/19/A-Photo-Tour-of-Butts-Mehre-Renovation–907074/1#a907656

Dumb Dawgs

March 14th, 2011
11:24 pm

And someone tell Sonny Seiler to pick an Uga that will last more than one season. And feed them some lean cuisines or something. Is he breeding William Perry with Cass Elliot or something? Geesh!

GTBob

March 14th, 2011
11:26 pm

I cant imagine that NC State is willing to pay Fox that much. Maybe Barnes or Smith, but Fox hasn’t really done enough to be one of the top 5 highest paid coaches in college basketball. He would be almost even with Bill Self. I would also question whether UGA is willing to match an offer like that. That is some serious money.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:27 pm

Fox has a tough choice:

1st class facilities at NC State and get paid what he’s worth:
http://c.vrguild.net/c/star.pl?U=1009081629124084#

Pic of his future home above.

5150 UOAD

March 14th, 2011
11:27 pm

D A
MUCH greater? How did you come up with that phrase? Please try again later. I notice your didn’t respond on the recruiting violations today. You have been on all the TECH boards but none of the UGA boards. You are a closet TECH fan needing to find the mythical tickle pile you dream about.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:28 pm

Georgia’s workout facilities last season (here’s why they get tired in the 4th quarter)

http://www.lawrenceroadfire.org/images/Fire%20Prevention%20Trailer%20(1).JPG

Dan

March 14th, 2011
11:29 pm

No bb coach wants to work for a “Debbie” who has to ask around about who she should hire, bc she has no clue about sports, good grief. He loves Athens and if it’s not Kansas he stays. Nc state is inot even 4th best school in nc. He’ll tell them no by wed. And he’ll get raise and more yrs after tourney

TampaDAWG

March 14th, 2011
11:31 pm

Not sure why DAWG fans are slamming McGarity for not signing Richt to a long term contract. I support him and THINK they are headed back in the right direction but they have steadily gotten worse over the 3 years and had a losing season this season. If they get back to the elite in the SEC then I have no doubts McGarity will re-sign him to a longer contract. As for Coach Fox, it is only his 2nd season and we have yet to see how he does with his recruits and how he can recruit. He has obviously done better than Coach Felton did with the same players but lets see how/if he can bring in talent to compete with Kentucky, Vandy, Tenn, and Florida in the future. I think he is a very good coach but let him prove it

Donald

March 14th, 2011
11:31 pm

Let’s see, fox, barnes, miller, and smith??? Maybe smith bc cold weather sucks, otherwise pipe dream lady ath. director

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:31 pm

Nice read about the first class trailersa mcGarity picked out for the Head Coaches last year to work out from:

http://georgia.247sports.com/Article/Bulldogs-practicing-through-construction-1837

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:32 pm

Best lines from the Georgia 247 site:

“While construction continues, the weight room UGA’s team must use is located in Stegeman. Training rooms and positional meeting rooms for the Bulldogs are in trailers lined up near the construction zone. They sit an area where grass practice fields were until this season.

Georgia’s two remaining useable practice fields are both artificial turf, which means that for the 2010 season, the Bulldogs are temporarily working without a grass practice field except for rare trips to Sanford Stadium.

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:34 pm

Love this quote from McGarity on Georgia 247, when McGarity was asked if practicing on NON GRASS FIELDS, and working out from TRAILERS, led to Georgia’s 1-4 start:

“That’s just an inconvenience,” McGarity said, “but I don’t think it has any correlation with hampering a team’s chance to get ready for the season and things like that. There’s some schools that don’t even have grass fields to practice on. Yeah, it’s a little unusual that we don’t have it, but at the end of the day, we’re going to be in great shape in the future.”

Donald

March 14th, 2011
11:46 pm

Mcgarity keeps it up he will be gone, working under folks at Florida means crap, it’s your turn now little man, and I mean little. We will see if he steps up, some moves have been good, but coming in after red underwear boy should be a 2 yr walk in park, now it’s time to jog AD!!!!!

J Dog

March 14th, 2011
11:49 pm

Forbes lays blame for losses on Georgia’s LEADERSHIP being AMONG THE CHEAPEST in the SEC:

http://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/01/26/whos-making-money-in-sec-football/

tHE MONEY YOU spend predicted winning in 2010.

Can it be true?

March 14th, 2011
11:53 pm

Well done mr. Les “clock managment” Miles…. I mean Mr. Fox.

St simons

March 14th, 2011
11:53 pm

I heard a guy named J Dog loves GT, Yea!!!!!!That’s my team too leave these dawgs alone and get back to our board so we can hire a good high school bb coach, we can talk all night about how great GT bb is, remember Dennis Scott, that was awesome!!!! Common j Dog meat me at jacket blog!!! We can talk about how fat Durham is too!!!!!

Paul in RDU

March 14th, 2011
11:54 pm

brian

March 14th, 2011
11:19 pm
fox has a pretty solid class coming in. NO WAY he gets the same at friggen nc state give me a break
————————–
In 2010 Sidney Lowe brought in one of the top PGs in GA (Ryan Harrow) and one of the top SGs (Lorenzo Brown – via Hargrave) – added to CJ Leslie, a McDAA from the same school as John Wall. Yep – NCSU can’t bring in good players, especially not from Georgia.

William Satterwhite

March 14th, 2011
11:58 pm

NC State is nowhere near as bad a job as some of you folks are making it out to be and after Barnes and Miller say no (again, in Barnes’ case), Fox might get a very sweet offer as a fallback option. After getting burned last time, NC State is probably going to make sure they get a winner this time.

GTBob

March 14th, 2011
11:58 pm

@brian: fox has a pretty solid class coming in. NO WAY he gets the same at friggen nc state give me a break

NC State had the number 6 recruiting class in the country last year. That included three 5 star players. They recruit a little better then you think and much better then UGA.

Scott

March 14th, 2011
11:58 pm

J Dog

Forbes fails to discuss Texas missed a bowl game this yr, at least uga made a bowl. And just 3 yrs ago won sugar bowl for second time in 10 yrs. Along with 2 sec titles
But who wants facts, yes last 2 yrs have Been out of norm, think all would agree. If it happens this yr big changes will take place.

5150 UOAD

March 14th, 2011
11:59 pm

Football
Gymnastics
Tennis/ Lady Basketball
Basketball/ Baseball

Keith

March 15th, 2011
12:01 am

GT bob, nobody outside of Raleigh cares about ncstate, sorry buddy. If there class is so good where are NCAA tourney bids, acc was crap this yr, even vandy beat unc. And fox ain’t working for a lady who knows nothing about sports

Kevin

March 15th, 2011
12:02 am

5150
What do you visit each hr to repost the same thing, get out of your folks basement

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
12:04 am

DUKE/ UNC Basketball
NCSU Basketball
WAKE Basketball

Yes UGA is a much better job than a Basketball Job in the State of North Carolina.

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
12:04 am

Rick Barnes a candidate?
He couldn’t compete with UNC or Duke his first go around in the ACC – although he has elevated Texas.

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
12:08 am

Debbie Yow knows so little about sports that at her previous school they only won 20 NCAA NCs during her tenure (one of them in men’s basketball) including 11 in her last 5 years.

PackFan

March 15th, 2011
12:08 am

I highly doubt that Fox is under serious consideration. He has a $2MM buyout and frankly has not done anything yet to justify that payout or anything close to a $3MM yearly salary. Many things in that SportsByBrooks report make very little sense.

As for “Georgia’s basketball job has the same potential as NC State’s” … thanks for the laugh. That’s like saying that NC State’s football job has the same potential as Georgia’s because we built a nice weightroom.

St. Clarkston

March 15th, 2011
12:09 am

Jeff, you want him to stay but you throw it out there just because you read it in some obscure blog. I read on sorrycolumnists.com that Jeff Schultz is a candidate for greeter at walmart.

TampaDAWG

March 15th, 2011
12:11 am

How good was NCSU or WAKE basketball this year? Don’t think Coach Fox leaves for NC State and as I saw posted above when your team has a good coach, rumors will fly when another one gets fired. Thanks to NC State for noticing we have a good head coach in Coach Fox. Go DAWGS!

GTBob

March 15th, 2011
12:14 am

@Keith, there is a reason they are about to fire their coach. He wastes talent worse then Paul Hewitt. And yes the state of NC doesn’t care much about NC State outside of Raleigh but they still recruit better then UGA. If NC State ever gets a good coach they are going to be a pretty good team again.

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
12:16 am

B’ball coach at UGA is an easier job than at NCSU – lower expectations, much less history, much smaller arena, much easier competition (recruiting against K and Ole Roy is no walk in the park)

al templeton

March 15th, 2011
12:17 am

ask Herb Sendek what its like to go against Carolina and Duke every year. Nobody should want that NC State job…

TampaDAWG

March 15th, 2011
12:19 am

@ GTBob

The verdict is still out on if NC STate can recruit better than UGA with Coach Fox here, and the same question can be asked if GT can recruit better now that coach Fox is at UGA.

Lanier Dawg

March 15th, 2011
12:24 am

Let’s see…..go to NC State and play for the 5th\6th best BB school in NC and have to compete with powerhouses Duke and NC not only for talent, but for ACC Championships year in and year out, not to mention Wake Forest when they get their act together; or stay in the SEC and compete with Kentucky and the occasional good Florida team? (no mention of Tenn b/c unless Pearl takes them to the Final Four, he’s a goner and the hillbillies are back to being a women’s BB school). Gee, any fool would take the second rate NC State job. But it’s obvious that the Tech faithful like J Dog want to see coach Fox leave the state b/c they know if he stays their little BB school won’t have a chance. Remember, even with Felton as our coach and that disgrace Harrick, during Paul’s entire time at Tech he had more losing seasons than UGA. And here I thought that Tech was the BB school in this state.

UGGA

March 15th, 2011
12:25 am

Fox is the king of self promotion. He floats his name every year for jobs. Did it at Nevada. Did it hear last year with the Oregon gig. Ever wonder why no jobs in the west are after Fox? He could not get a west coast job while at Nevada either. His problems are known back there.

His act will catch up to him out east. Take his $2 million and laugh all the way to the bank!

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
12:28 am

AL SIMPLETON
You just stay as a publix bagger. We know you can only compete with the Special kids for a job. I know you can’t compete with the 17year old cashier girl. If FOX or any coach thinks they are good, then why would they run from the challenge of playing Duke and UNC? I guess you sit at home collecting a govt. check instead of working. Competitors want to COMPETE against the BEST.

headley lamar

March 15th, 2011
12:31 am

Competitors want to COMPETE against the BEST.

Or possibly build something special at a school without a huge basketball history.

More home grown talent in Georgia anyway.

headley lamar

March 15th, 2011
12:33 am

Wonder how many schools are drooling over Paul Hewitt?

This is part of success. Happy headaches.

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
12:39 am

Hewitt doesn’t have to work now. 11 yrs at around 2 mil a year and a 7 mil buy out. that is around 30 mil for his work that is damn good considered that is probably 1 mil per kid he got to graduate in his time at TECH.

TampaDAWG

March 15th, 2011
12:43 am

great comments headley lamar, Its always fun to compete against the best but looking at the overall conferences from top to bottom the SEC was better than the ACC this year and just because NC State is in North Carolina doesn’t make it North Carolina, or Duke. Just Sayin

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
12:49 am

Yep – no good basketball players ever came out of the state of NC. Apart from the best basketball player in UGA’s history, in NCSU’s history, in UNC’s history.

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
12:49 am

And UGA is no Alabama, Florida, LSU, or Tennessee in football and that is why Richt was so easily hired. UGA didn’t have many proven candidates to choose from.

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
12:52 am

UGA was hoping that Richt would help the dawgs compete for recruits in Florida and beat Florida. Has has that worked out for the Dawgs?

William Satterwhite

March 15th, 2011
12:57 am

Lanier Dawg, what 4-5 North Carolina schools would you put above NC State?

William

March 15th, 2011
12:57 am

NCSU has won 2 national championships. Only 6 other schools have won more. They have top rate facilities, great tradition from 1950-1990 and a huge, passionate fanbase. Its a job that someone can go to and succeed if they’re the right person to take on the rebuild (and with a top 5 class from last year he’ll have a lot of talent at his disposal). However I don’t want Fox. SEC basketball is not ACC basketball.

money talks

March 15th, 2011
1:10 am

Ga can’t compete with NC State basketball money, facilities, fans, tradition…. Plus, Ga has that dumpy arena (former rodeo barn) while NC state has a state of the art palace to play in. For $3 mil plus, Fox will be off to Raleigh—book it.

5150 UOAD

March 15th, 2011
1:21 am

Some Dawg Fans have already called for FOX’s head after the clock management in the last game against Bama. The dawgs say they are not a Bball school. They then cuss an OK coach for losing to a bad Bama team. The dawgs get in the tourney and now maybe NCSU wants Fox. The dawgs now say UGA is a better job than an ACC job. YOU DAWGS kill me. How soon until the the Fire Richt Chants start again? Dawgs say Tech people didn’t support Hewitt? What have 1/2 of the dawg bloggers been doing for most of a year to Richt? Pot Kettle or Tail Dawg which fits better?

TampaDAWG

March 15th, 2011
1:24 am

hmm, we don’t win all the UF recruits but UGA does win some, I mean Charles and Murray come to mind right away, and Ramik Wilson from this year. And are we comparing NC State against UGA or UGA against everybody, just curious

TampaDAWG

March 15th, 2011
1:26 am

Not all DAWG fans are going to agree about a coach or players, I am sure I can go to an NC State blog ( if there are any ) and find disagreements about firing a coach or if a certain player is good or not. Comeon man

tony

March 15th, 2011
3:37 am

I believe Mark Fox realize that the State of Ga has more talent than any state in america so it would be to his advantage to stay at uga and build a championship team there. He’s only a few players(Shaquille Goodwin.Tony Parker and Evan Nolte)away from winning one. He already has the best sg(Kentavious Caldwell-Pope) in the country coming next season..

Right now he’s getting it done mostly with 3 star athletes. If he fill his roster up with 4 and 5 stars…WATCHOUT!

D_Up

March 15th, 2011
4:26 am

It looks like NC state needs to lower the bar a little…. why would Sean Miller leave Arizona for nc state? Or Rick Barnes leave Texas? That’s a big downgrade from where they already are! stupid story

D_Up

March 15th, 2011
4:30 am

The state of Georgia “has more talent than any state in America” tony?! Haha, are you smoking crack? Have you heard of California? or Texas? (Sorry if I’m being thick, and that was a joke)

DrRT

March 15th, 2011
4:53 am

I doubt very seriously Yow has been asking for months who should replace Lowe so I give the link no credibility. From the list of candidates, the link appears to get his list from the NC State message boards, again no credibility.

Billy

March 15th, 2011
5:52 am

Leaving UGA for NC State would be a lateral move at best.

Douglas

March 15th, 2011
6:52 am

Fox could do like Durham did and build a strong program here. What he needs is a great recruitor. If he could keep most of the Ga. basketball players in state and sign them to play with UGA, he would never have to go anywhere else to win a National Championship — just look at the number of Ga. players going out of state.

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
7:00 am

NC State needs to realize who they are. Two of the four best programs in college hoops, the last two national champs, share their media market. Who would want to go into that cauldron? Their fanbase, and evidently their AD, have very unrealistic expectations.

Fox is in a much better spot in Athens. Georgia is a much more fertile recruiting ground than NC, too.

NC State needs to look at mid-major candidates, maybe the guy from Wichita St (Marshall). He was very successful at Winthrop, a school in the Charlotte suburbs.

Hewitt Fan

March 15th, 2011
7:06 am

No way fox leaves the SEC for the Coach K conference…He understands the ACC is ran by the refs..He is a solid coach but would get fired in 3 or 4 years..no one wins in the ACC on the road and you are usually going to be playing for 3rd every year no matter how much talent you have..the SEC lets the kids play over there….Hell, just ask Hewitt!

Jesse Stone

March 15th, 2011
7:15 am

Fired coach fan- you need to amend that statement. No one wins on the road…unless Paul Hewitt is coaching the home team. Seriously…let it go. He’s gone.

Gordon

March 15th, 2011
7:19 am

“While the Wolfpack reportedly are willing to pay up to $3 million annually — far exceeding Fox’s current $1.3 million salary at Georgia — it’s not a program with any more potential than the one in Athens. The facilities enhancements at Georgia has elevated the stature of the basketball program, as has the SEC’s overall improved strength.”

Yeah, Fox will turn down 1.7 million because UGA put an open councourse at Stegeman. He may not take this job (it may not be offered), but if Fox turns out to be a great coach, he will leave because great coaches don’t like playing second fiddle to football. Billy Donovan is the only guy I can think of that has stayed long term at a football school. UGA is a destination program in football and a stepping stone program in basketball.

Jimmy Crack

March 15th, 2011
7:32 am

“Yow’s notorious managerial reputation”

That’s all I needed to hear. Fox isn’t going there.

Salinsa

March 15th, 2011
7:33 am

As Gary Parrish of CBSSports explained in early Feb, NC State is perhaps the worst great paying job in college sports when one factors in the expectations of the fanbase, proximity of national powers Duke and UNC and what the school has actually accomplished the last 25 yrs. Here’s an excerpt from his story:

Still, a very passionate and vocal segment of the N.C. State fan base refuses to acknowledge this reality, which is why the school will have a helluva time hiring Lowe’s replacement. No coach who is accomplished, comfortable and already at a nationally relevant program has any interest in walking into that world. When I explained this on a radio show in Raleigh earlier this week, the host asked if Xavier’s Chris Mack would do it for $3.5 million per year.

Now I think the world of Chris Mack. He would be a fantastic hire for N.C State athletic director Debbie Yow. But if she has to pay $3.5 million to get a second-year coach from Xavier, I think my point is proved. Like I said, the worst great-paying job in America is in Raleigh. Apply for it at your own risk.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14667646/nc-state-fans-must-realize-theyre-the-ugly-duckling/rss

Jimmy Crack

March 15th, 2011
7:39 am

“Yow’s notorious managerial reputation”

Fox stays.

Buckeye

March 15th, 2011
7:41 am

The good news is that Fox wouldn’t have to buy any red ties.

J Dog

March 15th, 2011
7:53 am

Let’s see $3 million to play for NC State, or $1.3 to play for Georgia. Tough decision? I don’t think so.

lawdawg

March 15th, 2011
8:07 am

Jeff ,could you tell us the salaries of all the SEC coaches?

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
8:11 am

Fox might milk it to get a salary hike, something all coaches do.

J Dog

March 15th, 2011
8:17 am

Look it up yourself, Jeff’s not your personal little researcher.

J Dog

March 15th, 2011
8:18 am

ACC is where it’s at salary & facility ise if you want to be a big time basketball coach. $150 million facility, $3 million salary, NC State is at the top of their game when it comes to investing in their basketball program.

AthensDawg

March 15th, 2011
8:30 am

Mark please don’t leave us. We can build a winning program every year if you stay.

JoeFan

March 15th, 2011
8:34 am

Fpx certainly hasn’t proven he’s worth a mega deal but can’t blame him if he gets one and takes it. Sure can question the common sense / wisdom of NC State for offering it though and UGA for matching any offer. Fox really hasn’t proven anything yet. Lets see what he does with his own recruits before worrying whether he will stay or not if another program comes calling.

Richard

March 15th, 2011
8:37 am

State couldn’t get anyone bold enough to butt heads with Mike and Roy the last time, why is this time any different?

Hewitt Fan

March 15th, 2011
8:41 am

@Jesse Stone
Just look at all the coaches who have been fired in the ACC in the last 4 years..All these guys won at their previous job but failed to win in the ACC…Oh i get it, all of them were bad coaches right?..then look at the guys who filled those vacant positions, a bunch of no name coaches from mid majors..UGA had no problem finding a good coach with a resume..I wonder why?.The SEC is a better conference than the ACC and the players are the stars not the coaches!..NO COACH WITH ANY RESUME WILL COME TO THE ACC, IT’S LIKE PLANNING YOUR OWN FUNERAL..Oliver Purnell got the hell out of the ACC very quick..After the refs failed to start the clock against Duke and he lost at the buzzer, he realized very quickly..

C C

March 15th, 2011
8:41 am

UGA as a basketball program is nowhere near as good as NC State: They don’t have the fan support, history, or facilities, and we are talkign about SEC vs ACC *basketball*, not football here. But M Fox does have UGA heading in the right direction at least. I wouldn’t assume he’d stay put if offered the NCSU job. Of course the UGA AA does have plenty of money to up his salary.

As far as “the SEC’s overall improved strength”… Jeff apparently now thinks the SEC is significantly better in basketball. I’m laughing at his (and others’) comments on some of these blogs about the SEC being as good as the ACC in basketball all of the sudden. Although the ACC is down this year it’s still ahead of the SEC overall. Look at any measure/rating, and top-to-bottom the ACC is better. The SEC did get one more team into the tourney, but lets see how many teams are left after 2, 3, or more games. There were TWO ACC teams which just missed the cut (and we all know VA Tech got hosed0. Meanwhile the ONLY other SEC team which had any hope of getting in was Alabama…who had by far the worst RPI of any bubble team.

IMO this year, the top 2 ACC teams are better than the top 2 in the SEC. Comparing the 3rd and 4th best teams in each conf, the SEC is probably better although it’s close (and UT has al lot of bad losses for example). On average, the middle 4 teams and the lower 4 teams are better in the ACC.

For example Sagarin’s conference ratings for this year have the ACC 4th overall, the SEC 7th. The ACC has almost always been in the top 2 or 3 conferences for at least 25 or 30 years, often #1, and never anywhere near as bad as 7th. The current Sagarin order:
1 Big East
2 Big Ten
3 Big 12
4 ACC
5 Mountain West
6 Pac 10
7 SEC

Not even close.

Dogs Smell

March 15th, 2011
8:44 am

Billy , NC has a basketball history. Uga has a basketball story.NC state will pay more and a more loyal fan base. Get your head out of uga’s rear !

PMC

March 15th, 2011
8:44 am

Ha, Gugliotta is not walking tru dat door.

Dawgfan79

March 15th, 2011
8:52 am

I do fear Fox eventually leaving UGA for greener pastures BUT NC State is not greener prastuers. They will alwayse be 3rd fiddle to UNC and Duke in that state.
Heck, they are 4th fiddle to Wake Forest now. Wake has much greater recent history then the Wolfpack.

At UGA Fox has the top basketball program in the state and has Georgia Tech against the ropes.

The greenest pasture for Mark Fox right now is still UGA.

Mtn Dawg

March 15th, 2011
8:52 am

Give him a raise just in case. We’re headed to the promised land and Fox is at the helm.

Tech Tard

March 15th, 2011
8:53 am

To those who are against Coach Fox: Take your expertise and go root for another program NOW. RUN!

RxDawg

March 15th, 2011
8:54 am

I duno Jeff, there is a big difference between 1.2 million and 3 million. If I was offered the same job in my field for 3x’s the pay, it be hard not to take it.

Mtn Dawg

March 15th, 2011
8:56 am

CC – all you have is basketball. I’d defend it too but you have to admit, if it wasn’t for Duke and UNC there we wouldn’t be having this conversation. The ACC is fading fast. The Big East is now the sustained crowned jewel of men’s college basketball.

Tech Tard

March 15th, 2011
8:57 am

Jeff,

Was your major in journalism or stirring the pot?

PMC

March 15th, 2011
9:03 am

This post makes me miss Jim Valvano.

Great coach, and probably the best college basketball show ever on espn

McGarity

March 15th, 2011
9:08 am

Someone appears to have a personal grudge against McGarity. I would think if you polled UGA fans, Greg would score very high. Going by the comments of Georgia coaches, major and minor sports, they are all enthusiastically on board with Greg.

Sure NC State has a better basketball history than UGA, but how many schools had a better football history than Florida before 1990? How many now? The basketball situation at Georgia is an awakening sleeping giant. Look at the fertile recruiting situation an hour away. And contrary to some posters, the upgraded Stegeman is now a quality venue. The practice facility is second to none. We have just been waiting on a coach like Fox to blow the lid off the so-called ceiling for UGA basketball.

Mark in ATL

March 15th, 2011
9:11 am

All of you GA homers…if another company came and offered you more than 2x what you are making now you’d leave in heartbeat. If NC State does offer him $3M he’d be a fool not to leave.

BYRDDAWG

March 15th, 2011
9:15 am

All you delusional acc fans need to WAKE UP! Since ‘94 the SEC has won 5 NCAA tournaments and the acc 5!!!!! Just sayin

Buzz 2010

March 15th, 2011
9:18 am

Fox should jump at NC State job if offered. The Dogs could bring back a coach
that better meets that thug mentality…. Jimmy Harrick Sr…

Destination of stepping stone?

March 15th, 2011
9:19 am

TIme will tell if Fox leaves, but going by history, UGA is not a stepping stone job. As far as I know going back at least 60 years, Georgia coaches that left volutarily, of their own accord are two, and both involved special situations.

Tubby turned down Ohio State, but left for the bluegrass. No one would argue that UK is not one of the elite BB programs in America, so who could blame Tubby. Ron Polk left to return to the school where the baseball stadium is named for him, another speciall situation.

So, if you go by history, Fox might leave for Kansas, or a similar type job, but I don’t think NC State will get him. In fact, history is screaming that UGA is a destination job, for any sport. Just the facts.

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
9:20 am

The ACC has won five championships in hoops in the last 10 years. As a conference, they are not waning. Plenty of Mickey D all-americans end up in the ACC, and not just at Duke and UNC. FSU, NC State, Ga Tech, Clemson, all have elite players that otehr teams in other conferences wanted. BTW, the Big East has not won a championship since 2004, I believe.

Hewitt Fan, mid-majors is where BCS conferences find their hoops coaches. Brownell and Donahue were excellent hires by Clemson and BC, respectively. Off the top of my head, here’s a list of SEC coaches who came from mid-major programs: Donovan, Horn, Fox, Pearl, Stallings, Grant, the recently-fired Pelphrey, Barbee. That’s five of the six coaches from the SEC East. Do your homework.

schmeckdawg

March 15th, 2011
9:21 am

He’s not going anywhere…end of story!

Carl

March 15th, 2011
9:23 am

He will eventually leave. No committment to hoops at UGA.

phil

March 15th, 2011
9:23 am

As I said about a month ago, this guy Fox will be as good as gone just as soon as some other program decides he’s a savior and throws a ton of money at him. Fortunately, he isn’t a savior, obviously, based on the boneheaded coaching decisions he exhibited the other day against Bama. So why pay him a bunch of money to come continue the status quo at a place like NC State? I kinda like Fox and hope he hangs around. If we just tread water each year, make the dance and go down in round one, we can keep him.

Dawghater

March 15th, 2011
9:27 am

UGA fans went off the deep end, AGAIN after the ALA game so if I’m Fox I’d let them get what they want. ANOTHER b’ball coach.

ED SINGLETON

March 15th, 2011
9:36 am

WITH COACH K AT DUKE AND ROY AT NORTH CAROLINA, WHOEVER TAKES THAT JOB , WILL BE A DEATH SENTENCE!! STAY AT UGA COACH FOX!!

southernborn

March 15th, 2011
9:37 am

You guys are funny. NC State fans while having high expectations have supported their program and continued to fill the arena[note not pour barn] during the losing seasons. If its the 4th best basketball job in the State that makes it among the top 10 jobs in the country. Barnes and Miller have ACC and NC state ties and Barnes almost came when Sid was hired. Fox looks like a good coach who should jump at the opportunity to leave the hicksville program he is burdened with and move up to a real basketball conference with a commitment to winning. You guys should realize both K and Roy are at retirement age and a young coach with NBA quality facilites for games and practice will go far in climbing to the top of the PACK

Who Cares

March 15th, 2011
9:45 am

Hope N.C. state gets Fox. He will lose at least 2 games per year with his inablility to coach in a tight game. Would welcome Fox leaving, and then maybe McGarity could hire Grant the second time around. Grant is head and shoulders above Fox when it comes to coaching and recruiting. He beat Fox twice on the court, and he has beaten him at least twice now in recruiting players from the state of Ga. for next year’s class. Also, the 2 best players from Al. are from the state of Ga. Does that sound familar? Also, McGarity was at Florida when Grant was an assistant under Donovan, so they know eachother. UGA once again has to watch as teams like Bama get coaches that know how to win, and recruit in Football & Basketball. UGA fans on the other hand are stuck with mediocre coaches like Richt &Fox that can’t coach a lick during games, and they have no clue on how to make adjustments during games. Both coaches have proven now that they choke just like their teams do in pressure situations, and neither coach has won a big game when it counts. Come on wolfpack, do us a favor for once.

Hewitt Fan

March 15th, 2011
9:50 am

@ormewood
I doubt Brownell will win once Purnell players leave..Donahue failed to make the NCAAS..Both were horrible hires..I know people who know people, so basically i am a insider due to my connections with the ATLANTA CELTICS…Donahue was the 5th choice at best..They called Pearl, he said hell no..they called Mooney from Richmond, he said no way, they even call the worst coach in Michigan history Amaker, he said no…they called Donahue who had one lucky sweet 16 appearance and he accepted….Clemson really wanted Drew,Baylor, he said no way, they actually tried to get Al Skinner, he said no way, he had just felt the rafts of the ACC…Herb Sendek said no way..At least all the SEC mid majors were very hot names..these ACC guys are a bunch of nobodys

Hewitt Fan lives in a strange world

March 15th, 2011
9:51 am

Let me see – SEC hires good coaches with a resume, ACC gets no-names from mid majors – Really???
Recent hires
UGA – Mark Fox – previously 5 years HC at Nevada
ALA – Anthony Grant – previusly 3 years HC at VCU – the very definition of a no-name from a mid-major
AU – Tony Barbee – previously 4 years HC at UTEP

UVA – Tony Bennett – previously 3 years HC at Washington State – a Big 6 conference school
Clemson – Brad Brownell – previously 4 years HC at UNC-W and 3 years HC at Wright State
BC – Steve Donahue – previously 10 years HC at Cornell – 3 consecutive NCAA appearances.

OK – UK hired Calipari, but they can hire anyone they want – somewhat like UNC hiring Roy Williams from Kansas.

Hewitt Fan lives in a strange world

March 15th, 2011
9:58 am

Now I understand – because Hewitt Fan has “connections with the ATLANTA CELTICS” he has super duper inside information and knows as much about college basketball as Joe Lunardi, Dickie V, Jay Bilas et al.

Matt

March 15th, 2011
10:01 am

Georgia has a coach that has me noticing, even caring, about the basketball program for the first time since Tubby. Please don’t let that change.

Hewitt Fan lives in a strange world

March 15th, 2011
10:01 am

Hewitt Fan “knows people who know people” which makes him an expert
My mother-in-law met Dickie V back in the early 90’s when he was in Starkville for an MSU game – I must be an expert too.

GStateBen

March 15th, 2011
10:07 am

Ha! If NC State fires Sidney Lowe they’ll again take the step back. That list is hot garbage. Why in the world would any of those 4 leave their current situations to take the 3rd best job in North Carolina.

Come on Wolfpack fans! Know Your Role!

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
10:08 am

Hewitt Fan. You’re simply wrong. Brownell after year one has to be considered a success. True, in five years he could prove to be “horrible” but we don’t know that at this moment. Just because you hire a guy from a Big 6 conference does not mean they will be succssful. Example: Bzdelik, the guy Wake hired from Colorado.

FYI, Coach K was coming off a 9-17 season at Army when he was hired. No one was beating down his door at the time.

I’m happy that you “know people.”

TruthBKnown Returns

March 15th, 2011
10:18 am

NC State is a sleeping giant. It is a MUCH better job than the Georgia gig — better facilities, better fan base, better basketball tradition. Sure, we’ve held ourselves down for the last 20+ years. But the dark times are coming to an end. NC State is the best gig no one knows about. Yet.

We’ve had bad coaches for 20 years because we’ve had a bad administration for 20 years. That has finally changed.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/14797346/nc-state-basketball-finally-has-chance-to-be-great-again

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
10:20 am

Coach Fox might be pursuaded to leave for bigger bucks I suppose. I am still not sure that UGA is serious about BB. Time will tell with the AD we have whether or not, this is true. He was at Florida so I hope he hasn’t changed since arriving at UGA. With all the talent available in this state, I would sure hope they are, although I am not that big of a fan in BB. I think it is just great though, as long as it increases the stature of UGA in a positive way.

Ohio-on-the-Gulf Dog

March 15th, 2011
10:21 am

McGarity should do what’s prudent to keep Fox.

We’ve had much heralded basketball coachs who’ve caused more trouble than they were worth and good coaches who departed at the first opportunity to bigger and better opportunities.

We need someone to stay for awhile and build the program over time. Fox seems as good a prospect as any to accomplish that.

That Bulldogs are even discussing backetball is a revolution.

In my nine years in the Classic City as a student and then as a college-hanger-on,. I attended exactly ONE (1) basketball game at the Pregnant Oyster, against Bucknell circa 1973.

Like most of my fellow Dogs of the era, I was a pathetic basketball fan. That I bother to add a comment here evidences a sea change at Georgia.

Rabun Dawg

March 15th, 2011
10:27 am

I do hope that CMF stays at UGA and continues to keep the program headed in the right direction. But, NC State is not a graveyard. Yes, Duke and UNC are the king bees now, but NC State has great tradition, facilities, fan base. Some of you may not be old enough to remember, but that program was the King years back under Everett Case at Reynolds Coliseum. They put the ACC on the basketball map, and I think much like what happened with UF in football. As the old Bear said about the Gators years ago, if they ever get the right guy in there , look out. NC State is in that same position now, and the right guy could make them relevant again. Is CMF that guy, I do not know, but if they came calling with a 3 mil package, I would think that it might get his attention. Is there less pressure to win at UGA, absolutely, but all of these guys have big egos and they just might think that are the ones to make it happen. JMHO

hey....

March 15th, 2011
10:28 am

NC State is a better hoops job than UGA. Great tradition, ACC, tobacco road, etc, etc….Don’t be suprised if he listens…..

jarvis

March 15th, 2011
10:30 am

Rabun, NC State is nothing like Florida. It’s not the State’s flagship large university. That one is down the Tobacco Road in baby blue.

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
10:31 am

Fact: NC State has been completely irrelevant in college hoops for nearly 30 years. No one cares, certainly not would-be recruits, that Everett Case was an ACC pioneer 60 years ago. Please.

THe NC State job is a very difficult one. The Ga Tech job is much better. Improvingt facilties, very fertile recruiting ground, two Final Fours since NC State’s last appearance

CrackDaddy

March 15th, 2011
10:32 am

The 2-mil payback is all that would stop Fox for leaving for State, who has two Nat’l Championships under their belt, and a much, much, greater BB tradition than UGa. Have you seen their arena? Their fanbase is as rabid as UGa’s in football. The state of NC serves as the college BB capitol.

Duncan Dickinson

March 15th, 2011
10:32 am

Wonder what favor Schultz owed Fox’s agent to publish his silly rumor. NCSU is paying up for experience and has no interest in Fox.

CrackDaddy

March 15th, 2011
10:36 am

Fl would not have Nat’l Championships had UNC players stayed. To Fl’s credit, Noah et al did stay. If UNC players stay for next year, and given their recruiting class, the rest of the BB world will be watching from the sidelines.

joe

March 15th, 2011
10:40 am

NC St has zero shot at Barnes, Smith and Miller…but Fox, I could see that since he has no ties to UGA…plus the ACC school has a better hoops tradition than UGA. Still, I doubt he’ll leave after just 2 years, but stranger things have happened.

CrackDaddy

March 15th, 2011
10:40 am

“NCState hasn’t been relevant in BB for 30 year”. Well, they do have two National Championships, which leads me to ask, “when has UGa EVER been relevant in BB”?

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
10:45 am

CrackDaddy, the Georgia job is better because two of the four or five best programs in college basketball aren’t witihn 30 minues of Athens, as they are in Raleigh. Less pressure, and much better local talent pool of prospects.

Promethius

March 15th, 2011
10:46 am

It amazes me how UGa fans are putting down NCState BB. NCState has earned its reputation as a top BB school, albeit it has been on hard times under Sidney Lowe. I believe its former coach, now at Arizona State, took State to the NCAA Tourney 5 times. Now what has UGa done that allows its fans to berate NCState? Will some UGa honest fan stand up.

whatsthefuss!

March 15th, 2011
10:47 am

State needs to go after Jeff Capel… I’m telling you it is the right fit. He knows the ACC he is from North Carolina. HE can recruit. Yes he had some issues at Oklahoma but think people who want to go to Oklahoma and be irrevlevant to football. He was in a tough situation there!

Promethius

March 15th, 2011
10:48 am

Ormewood, those two schools have always been less than 30 minutes from State to my knowledge. Being a great distance from Duke and UNC doesn’t make UGa a better program. The’ve always been farther from those schools that NCState. Explain your reasoning.

Hewitt Fan

March 15th, 2011
10:50 am

@ormewood I agree clemson had a good year, but those are Purnells players…Do you honestly see him being able to recruit, time will tell?…And one more ?…Out side of NC and duke, what program do you consider on the rise in the ACC?

@Hewitt Fan lives in a strange world

It took Donahue 5 years to have a winning season..6 years to make the NCAAS..do you think BC will wait on him that long?

William Satterwhite

March 15th, 2011
10:53 am

“All you delusional acc fans need to WAKE UP! Since ‘94 the SEC has won 5 NCAA tournaments and the acc 5!!!!! Just sayin”

That’s an interesting cut date considering that it starts right after a run of three consecutive championships the ACC won just prior to 94.

ormewood

March 15th, 2011
10:54 am

Promethius, to beat UNC and Duke you need to get players who UNC and Duke get, i.e. the nation’s elite. When is the last time that NC State got a commitment from a player that Duke and/or UNC wanted? David Thompson?

Arthur Redding, Jr.

March 15th, 2011
10:56 am

After his quick–amazing, actually–success at UGA, Fox’s name is going to come up often when there are coaching vacancies at major universities.

What will happen? I think he is committed to developing the UGA program; he has built relationships across the state with high school coaches and athletes; he has the fan base excited; the quality of incoming players is going to improve.

Fox’s salary at UGA is going up, perhaps significantly: the athletics program at UGA has plenty of money, and it will keep his salary competitive with any real offers that Fox gets. No way he goes to NC State. It will take a more prominent school to lure Fox away. And there are just not that many top basketball programs.

Promethius

March 15th, 2011
10:56 am

Fox will more likely leave UGa because of his inability to compete w/Fl and Ky. Ky has 4 of the top 15 players in HS coming to Ky in 2012. Fl has several top 50. UGa ain’t much of a destination in view of its prospects for competing in the SEC. UGa is more on the level of Alabama, SC, while lagging behind Vandy, and possibly Mississippi State.

Promethius

March 15th, 2011
10:59 am

People who know understand quality know that Wake is a school that has a better draw than UGa. They are still suffering from Skip Prosser’s untimely death. Wake will be back sooner than UGa will make real progress in my opinion.

Skeezix

March 15th, 2011
10:59 am

If Fox wants to be immersed in an environment where college baskeball is a part of the conversation 12 months a year, is forever embedded in the regional culture, yearns to compete against two programs just a short drive away that are disappointed any year they don’t win an NCAA title, and go head to head with two Hall of Fame coaches (UNC and Duke)–then he should go to NC State which has its own very rich basketball history and multiple NCAA titles. But, he should first make a call to Herb Sendek.

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
11:07 am

CrackDaddy – I agree with your fellow Tarheel, ormewood, on this one. NCSU is a much more difficult job than UGA because of the proximity to Durham and Chapel Hill

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
11:07 am

ormewood
Last player that State got that UNC or Cuke wanted? How about CJ Leslie?

Worm

March 15th, 2011
11:09 am

2700 tickets available in Charlotte per the Charlotte Observer.

Hahaha

March 15th, 2011
11:12 am

Saying that State is not a better basketball job than UGA is like saying UGA is not a better football job than State (even though we finished 25th in the country how’d y’all do?)

2 National Championships (for those in Athens that’s twice as many as the 1 AP Championship you have in football in 1980)
10 ACC Titles (in spite of being irrelevant since 1989, V’s last year, we are 3rd in ACC with the next closest being Wake with 4!!)
20,000 seat arena
20,000 person athletic association (only 4 are bigger and UGA is NOT one of them)
Indoor practice facility (UGA does NOT have one)
Located on tobacco road where college basketball is discussed 365 days a year

BTW Fox is NOT on our A list (if even on our list), John Feinstein, the author of that blog is good friends with Gary Williams and has a bone to pick with Debbie Yow.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
11:17 am

Worm,
Ticket money is probably not the reason there are 2700 tickets availoable. Gas money is, LOL. You have got to plan trips considering four and a half bucks a gallon soon.

TruthBKnown Returns

March 15th, 2011
11:21 am

Fox no doubt started this rumor, himself, when in reality Debbie Yow has probably not even contacted him.

Coaches do this sort of thing to get themselves raises.

Jack P

March 15th, 2011
11:25 am

Under Fox, the Dawgs have fizzled out of many games in the latter stages of the second half. If he decides to stay, some improvements need to be made before the team can advance to the upper tier of the SEC. Some of you jock sniffers seem to think the guy walks on water. He is potentially a top notch coach as long as improvement is shown and he recruits good players, which he seems to be doing thus far.

dawgfacedboy

March 15th, 2011
11:29 am

Why would Barnes or Fox take that job??

SuperB

March 15th, 2011
11:29 am

Jeff: Your sports editor must be “Dilbert’s” boss! No. 1, do not believe the rumors– because No. 2– Yow does NOT tip her hand, (ala Lee Fowler.) and No. 3: the NC State job has vastly more potential than Georgia– or 10 of the SEC schools. They have a rich tradition, 2 national championships, and by far– the best coliseum in either the ACC or SEC. I bet you haven’t even been in it. and probably never graced historic Reynolds Coliseum before that.

Do you just make up stuff in order to write your columns?

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
11:31 am

TruthBKnown Returns
Maybe Fox’ agent knows the agents for Bud Foster and Kirby Smart.
Seriously – Fox has had a good season at UGA and when that happens your name comes up when jobs come open.

Fox Presser

March 15th, 2011
11:34 am

Has fox scheduled a presser to explain all these coaching rumors and whether he will stay at UGA? if so, will it be televised so I can watch it on my Ipad 2?

Go back to fl

March 15th, 2011
11:36 am

mcgarity needs to hit the road and head back to fla–UGA needs a big time AD who can step up and get the money to build a huge new arena like they have at NC State.

SuperB

March 15th, 2011
11:39 am

To all the dyed-in-the-wool Dawgs– and I am one of them– the Georgia job is NOT better than the NC State job. No way, no how– not even close. And to the Dawg who said the Wolfpack job is the fourth-best in NC– you have no idea what you are talking about. A good coach can win a national championship there– as two have done. Take away Kentucky and Florida, and the SEC has what?

The SEC is superior in FB every year. And the ACC is superior in BB (this year is an anomoly.) It’s been this way for more than 50 years.

TruthSeeker

March 15th, 2011
11:40 am

Not so fast, NC State fans. You guys are overrating your program’s stature. Do you know what your record in the ACC since Jim Valvano left is? 125-209. You’ve only been to the Big Dance five times in the last 20 years (Georgia has been 6 times). You haven’t been to the NCAAs since 2006. Despite all of this mediocrity, you ran off the one coach who brought you some success over the last two decades (Herb Sendek).

I’m not going to pretend UGA is some basketball powerhouse, but to act like NC State is leaps and bounds ahead of them is ridiculous. Why would Fox leave the best college town in America and an improving program for one that has been irrelevant for five years and has unrealistic expectations?

I wish you guys well, but you’ve got no shot at getting our coach.

Paul in RDU

March 15th, 2011
11:43 am

SuperB
You mean Stegeman isn’t as good an arena as the RBC Center? Heck, Stegeman is not as big as Reynolds and NCSU uses that for practice.

TruthSeeker

March 15th, 2011
11:55 am

What fantasy world are you guys living in thinking that NC State is some great job? They didn’t make the NCAA Tournament for 10 years before Herb Sendek got there. And they haven’t made in the five years since he left. Their ACC record since Jim Valvano was fired is 125-209. They’ve been to fewer Big Dances than UGA over the last 20 years.

NC State has a fine basketball tradition, but so what? That tradition hasn’t done them a whole lot of good over the last two decades. Past success doesn’t win you any games in the present. Fox has a better opportunity to win at UGA now, and that’s why he won’t leave to take the NC State job.

BYRDDAWG

March 15th, 2011
11:56 am

I guess none of you acc faithful have ever been to the Bud Walton Arena or Thompson -Boling….ACC 12 SEC 9 in the NCAA tournament HISTORY!! That doesn’t sound like a beat down to me….Take out UF & UK?? Why don’t you take out duke & nc and tell me what ANY of the others have done lately!!! Bring it….

I have built a brand name and it IS ....

March 15th, 2011
11:57 am

Having spent 35+ years in bidnezz in a marketing/sales capacity, it IS ALLURING for a man to build a nationally known brand name and go where no one else has before. THAT IS why CMF will remain for awhile at UGA. If he can continue to grow his program into a consistent NCAA March madness team ……….. he also WILL MAKE THAT DOUGH !!

He could ride it for a long while. THAT is also called stability and maybe his wife and kids prefer being in Athens and close to Atlanta. Who would not?? Lake Oconee, Lake Sinclair, Lake Lanier, golfing is second to none and fine private Athens schools and proximity to an international city with world class dining and shopping.

SEC is also big boy ball and frankly, EQUAL NOW to the ACC.

Go Dogs and Go SEC Tourney teams !!!

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
11:57 am

I think a good comparison can be made to Florida regarding UGA’s basketball program.

Other than a fluke under Lon Kruger, Florida had no basketball history at all.

Georgia had the post Dominique Final 4 and nothing else.

Fox can become UGA’s Billy Donovan.

Anyone really think Florida could win back to back national titles?

And for all of you idiots mouthing off, ACC is now Duke and nothing else. SEC is about to go back to Kentucky running the show again.

Why not stay where he is and play Kentucky twice every year?

You idiots like Dog Smell can’t accept the FACT that the SEC East with Kentucky, Florida,Georgia, Vandy and Tennessee combined was better than any combination of five teams the ACC could run out on the floor.

TruthSeeker

March 15th, 2011
12:00 pm

Correction to my previous post: NC State hadn’t made it to the Big Dance for 10 years from ‘92-’01, INCLUDING Sendek’s first five years there.

Sparticus

March 15th, 2011
12:22 pm

Shultz is wrong. State is a superior job to UGA right now. In fact, it’s almost the exact equivalent of the State football coach leaving for UGA: better facilities (and, no, Shultz, ours aren’t anywhere near as nice as State’s), much more passionate fan base, and right in the heart of basketball country. Leaving a traditionally lower-tier program for one who’s won it all before and still considers itself on the border of elite.

TruthSeeker

March 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

Sparticus, the fact that NC State “still considers itself on the border of elite” might be part of the problem. The fact is that it’s been a very mediocre program for two decades. They ran off the one coach during that time period who actually brought them some success. A struggling program with unrealistic expectations is never a good combination.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

March 15th, 2011
12:39 pm

Fox has to take the job, there is no future at UGA or the SEC in terms of basketball. Taking the NC State job is a step up, because you have Duke and UNC in your backyard.

BYRDDAWG

March 15th, 2011
12:40 pm

Sparticus, Notre Dame still thinks of it’s self as relevant in college football too……

donny ballgame

March 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

Archie Miller, maybe, not Sean.

Ernie

March 15th, 2011
12:50 pm

Hey DoolyDawg: What are you smoking, 4th best job in the state? The Wolfpack has 2 National Championships. Only 6 other schools have more and Wake Forest isn’t one of them.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
12:51 pm

interception dude,

Kentucky is going to be better than Duke or UNC next year and beyond. They are in UGA’s division. UGA plays them twice each year.

Florida is a very good program
Vandy is NCAA caliber every year and returns everyone next year.

Valvano died many years ago and coached years before that. NC State hasn’t been relevant in over 20 years.

Not A Dawg

March 15th, 2011
12:55 pm

For the uninitiated and very young, NC State has two NCAA Basketball National Championship banners hanging in our gym. How about the Dawgs?Lowe may not be much of a coach, but he had one of the best recruiting calsses in the country last year, and an excellent one on tap this year. You guys are having a good year, but NCSU has history.

DAWG GONE FAN

March 15th, 2011
12:55 pm

Enter your comments here

phil

March 15th, 2011
1:01 pm

N.C. State’s best days are in the past. Totally correct on the 2 titles to Ga’s zero. Excellent point but state is now irrelevant in basketball and will remain so. GA will be right back in the sewer next year, most likely, so our irrelevance will also continue…

GT Dude

March 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

Jeff,
you are simply showing you ignorance of college basketball
NC State is a far more esteem job than UGA where round ball will always take a backseat to the pigskin.
Maybe you show stay within your base of knowledge and write about baseball..

Blunder Dawg

March 15th, 2011
1:10 pm

Would be better if Fox leaves and UGA could get a coach that wouldnt blow leads and know how not to be a choke artist.

jesusislord

March 15th, 2011
1:13 pm

Mark—if Fox gets offered that much money to coach a basketball school in a basketball league, my guess is that he’ll jump on it pretty quick. UGA is a football school and always will be; NC State has 2 National Championships in round ball. Coaching on Tobacco Road is a far greater challenge that coaching in Athens, GA.

DawginLex

March 15th, 2011
1:17 pm

Florida had no history in basketball before Donovan showed up.

Fox could do the same thing at UGA

Sparticus

March 15th, 2011
1:17 pm

TruthSeeker: “a stuggling program with unrealistic expectations” Remind you of anyone? Now, I don’t think UGA’s football expectations are unrealistic, but it doesn’t counter my point.

BYRDDAWG: “Notre Dame still considers itself relevant in college football…” Yep, they sure do. And you’d get no argument from anyone that leaving NC State to coach ND in football wouldn’t be a good move. So, are you arguing or making my point for me?

Bring Tubby Back

March 15th, 2011
1:23 pm

Hope Fox leaves cuz we need Tubby who wont choke!

YoungDawg

March 15th, 2011
1:26 pm

When & if the Kansas or NC jobs come open then I’ll be worried Mark Fox may leave. Kansas is his dream job & he worked there in the past under Roy Williams who I think might recommend Fox to succeed him at NC. All NC State interest will do is get Fox a well deserved raise unless he wants more improvements to Stegeman instead.

Bring the Pack Back

March 15th, 2011
1:28 pm

You Dawg fans have nothing to worry about, we aren’t going to come after Fox. No need to cough up 2 mil for him when there are other candidates out there.

As for what job is better…that’s a no brainer; NCSU by far.

Better facilities, roster, tradition, fan support and more money if you are a winner. Only drawback is the competition in the TRI-COUNTY area.

Facts are facts…only 7 teams have one multiple NCAA tourney titles, NCSU is one of them.

10 ACC titles
3 Final Fours,
2 National Titles

Then NCAA and UNC Board of Gov castrated the wolf (1990)…

Its time to bring the Pack Back, 20 years is more than enough punishment for selling some shoes.

Kerryb

March 15th, 2011
1:28 pm

Sorry. Don’t see the step up. Why go to the ACC and have no chance of winning the conference from UNC or Duke every year.

Joey

March 15th, 2011
1:54 pm

Dang! I saw the headline and thought it was about Richt. Shoulda known better . . .

Joey

March 15th, 2011
1:58 pm

Well, Mr Pack, more schools than 7 would have multiple titles if they so brazenly broke the rules to get them, like, well, your school.

unifynormal

March 15th, 2011
2:11 pm

Just because State has been down doesn’t mean the program can’t return. Half the problem was the AD, and he’s gone too. Anyone UGA fan mentioning State’s previous coach proves they don’t know much. That dude had plateaued. Feel free to go get him from ASU where he crashed and burned this season. Heck, even Lowe beat that performance.

Bottom line, State can come back. There are good players in place, and Roy and K will be retiring soon, so a coach with big enough b*lls to step into State’s job will have the opportunity to rise above.

Lagdawg

March 15th, 2011
2:16 pm

Sounds like UGA better do what they need to do to keep him. Good coaches are hard to replace and UGA does not need to take a step backwards at this point.

Goober Pyle

March 15th, 2011
2:35 pm

Fox does a great job the first 7/8 of the game!

ryan

March 15th, 2011
2:49 pm

I don’t think Fox will leave but if he does bolt how about the San Diego St. coach i heard a lot of good things about him also like Buzz Peterson to .

PHIL

March 15th, 2011
2:55 pm

UGA WILL WIN THE NATIONAL TITLE-THEY HAVE 2 FIRST RD PICKS AND A GREAT COACH AND THE BEST PG IN THE NATION…BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS…WE WILL MAKE BELIEVERS OUT OF YOU HATERS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY AFTERNOON!

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
2:57 pm

WE WILL BE THE FIRST 10 SEED TO WIN IT ALL BABY

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
2:57 pm

GERALD ROBINSON WILL LEAVE ISAIAH JR CALLING FOR DADDY THOMAS

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
2:59 pm

NC STATE WON A TITLE ON A GOALTENDING AND JIMMY V IS A GONNA BABY…LONG LIVE THE REAL DAWGS

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:03 pm

JIMMY V IS A GONNA AND NC STATE WON A TITLE ON A SHOULDA BEEN CALLED GOALTENDING FLUKE PLAY-DAWGS ROLL AND N.C. STATE IS A SECOND RATE SCHOOL…HOWS THE NIT-OH WAIT YOU DIDNT MAKE IT…BWAHAHAHA

gdawginkalamazoo

March 15th, 2011
3:10 pm

BOW. Really???? That is hilarious. A UGA basketball fan running smack. It has been so long since we have had a team that could beat anybody much less somebody that I forgot how to talk roundball smack. I am talking Dominique Wilkins days.

I pray that the dawgs do well and play a great game. It is nice to see them pull down the 20+win season and appear to be heading in the right direction. Hope Coach Fox sticks around and makes this HIS program and a winner.

Goober Pyle

March 15th, 2011
3:12 pm

Dawgs year is next year with Kentavious and Nick arriving.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:13 pm

JIMMY V IS A GONNA AND NC STATE WON A TITLE ON A SHOULDA BEEN CALLED GOALTENDING FLUKE PLAY-DAWGS ROLL AND N.C. STATE IS A SECOND RATE SCHOOL…HOWS THE NIT-OH WAIT YOU DIDNT MAKE IT…BWAHAHAH

Goober Pyle

March 15th, 2011
3:18 pm

Would report some of the above posts but that’s even more aggravating than entering the Final Four Fiasco. AJC, ever heard of user-friendly?

Mr. JiggyFly

March 15th, 2011
3:18 pm

“But if he leaves, it would take a better job than North Carolina State. While the Wolfpack reportedly are willing to pay up to $3 million annually — far exceeding Fox’s current $1.3 million salary at Georgia — it’s not a program with any more potential than the one in Athens. The facilities enhancements at Georgia has elevated the stature of the basketball program, as has the SEC’s overall improved strength.”

This is sooooo hilarious. NC State’s basketball heritage makes GA look worse than a mid-major. How many National Championships does GA have? Someone said the NC State job is only the 4th best in the state. Maybe….. but its still better then the best basketball program in GA. And as far as facilities, I have been inside GA’s barn twice. NC State has the nearly new state of the art RBC Center in Raleigh that seats 19,000+ for Bball and 18,400+ for hockey. Brand new state of the art jumbotron, ribbon boards, 30 luxury boxes, etc., etc. Its a Pro arena. And best of all, NC State is located in the heart of basketball country, called Tobacco Road. How did this reporter even fathom GA had more to offer. LMAO!!!!

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:27 pm

uga has 6 football titles and nc state none

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:28 pm

compare nc state to UGA In football baby-not even close-the pack stink

gdawginkalamazoo

March 15th, 2011
3:28 pm

NC State has 2, this dawg has no problem with NC State basketball. Jimmy V was one enthusiastic coach who loved the game. You don’t see too many guys like that anymore.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:30 pm

UGA = 6 NATIONAL TITLES, 12 SEC TITLES, TOPE 15 ALL TIME IN TOTAL WINS, TOP 5 ALL TIME IN BOWL WINS, 2 HEISMANS, TOP 5 IN NFL PLAYERS, MORE ALL-AMERICANS, BETTER STADIUM, BETTER MASCOT, BETTER GIRLS, BETTER CONFERENCE AND BETTER CITY AND STATE-WOW WHATS IN NC? CHARLOTTE-WOW

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:31 pm

OH AND FLAIR—WWWHHHHOOOOOOO

Mr. JiggyFly

March 15th, 2011
3:31 pm

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS: “compare nc state to UGA In football baby-not even close-the pack stink”

You’re real bright. So Mark Fox should remain your BASKETBALL coach because you have a good FOOTBALL team? LOLOLOLOLOL

unifynormal

March 15th, 2011
3:35 pm

Jimmy V was the man, and he got hosed by his own school. The admin over-reacted to the infractions (which were very minimal compared to what gets by the NCAA these days *cough* Cam Newton *cough* ) and the downward spiral of NCSU bball was self-inflicted. Much has changed, there’s new leadership in place, and it’s time for State to rebound (literally and figuratively). It’s sad to see Lowe go, since he was instrumental in ‘83 run, but his time has come.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:35 pm

RALEIGH SUX…ITS AN ANCIENT CITY WITH NOTHING TO DO-RANKS WITH COLUMBIA, S.C. AS THE MOST SUCK CAPITALS IN THE SOUTH

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:36 pm

RALIGH WOULDNT BE GEORGIA’S 3RD BEST CITY

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:37 pm

RALEIGH-SCOFFS AT THAT UGLY DORK DOG OF NC STATES-LOOKS LIKE THE WOLF FROM THE THREE LITTLE PIGS WITH PAJAMAS ON

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:37 pm

SHUTUP SCHULTZ

MJC

March 15th, 2011
3:37 pm

@BOW

UGA has 6 football titles? I think this is news to anyone who abides by facts.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:38 pm

SCHULTZ JUST FINISHED EATING A SWISS CHEESE SANDWICH AT THE ATL DELI

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:39 pm

CHECK THE # OF TIMES UGA WAS NAMED NATIONAL CHAMPIONS BY DIFFERENT PUBS SIR-YOU CHECK THE FACTS-THE AP MAY BE SELF-PROCLAIMED BUT UNTIL THE MNC IS WON ON THE FIELD ANY PUB CAN DECLARE SOMEONE A WINNER-CHECK THE RECORD BOOKS-1942,1980,1968 AND SO FORTH-GO AHEAD

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:40 pm

UGA HAS BEEN UNDEFEATED 4 TIMES BUT ONLY NAMED NC ONCE BY THE AP? HHHMMM BIAS INDEED FROM THE NORTHEASTERNERS WHO ONLY RECOGNIZED BAMA AND GT UNTIL THE 50S

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:41 pm

NC STATE IS A DOG WITH NO BITE, A WEAK BARK, A COACH WHO FELL FROM GRACE B/C HE WAS A CHEAT, A SORRY HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM AND UGLY CHICKS

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:42 pm

RACIST? WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS RACIST? LOL

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:42 pm

I HAVE A MASTER’S LITTLE MAN…IM TYPING AT MY DESK AT IBM BABY WHILE YOUR LOOKING AT OLD POSTERS OF THAT CHEAT JIMMY V-WHO ONLY BECAME FAMOUS WHEN HE DIED OF CANCER

MJC

March 15th, 2011
3:43 pm

@BOW

Well, if you go by any publication, then I am going to go create a publication and retroactively award Kennesaw State the national champ for every year. They have never lost a game.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:43 pm

FAMOUS-OUR COACH INVENTED THE FORWARD PASS-MORE IMP THAN ANYTHING THE CHEAT JIMMY V DID

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:43 pm

OF COURSE LEGIT PUBS NOT YOU-YOURE NOT LEGIT

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:44 pm

NOT PICKING ON THOSE WITH CANCER-JUST SAYIN HIS CLAIM TO FAME BEGAN AFTER HIS CANCER

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:44 pm

NO BUT IT OPERATES FROM YOUR MOMS

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:45 pm

NC PPL ARE HILLBILLIES

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:46 pm

OUR COACHES ARE MORE REPUTABLE THAN JIMMY V-HE WON ON A SHOT THAT SHOULDA BEEN OFFENSIVE GOALTENDING

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:46 pm

HE CHEATED HIS WAY TO A TITLE-JIMMY V WAS FIRED B/C HE WAS A CHEAT AND THAT HOW NC STATE KEPT UP WITH UNC-DONT TRY AND RIDE UNC’S BANDWAGON-UNC SPITS ON NC STATE

MJC

March 15th, 2011
3:47 pm

@NC State

Pot, meet kettle.

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZOS

March 15th, 2011
3:49 pm

OH I KNOW YOURE NOT LITTLE-YOURE A FAT MAN-I MEAN YOURE A HILLBILLY FROM NC-BUT DONT TRY A KEMPO ARTIST MY FRIEND-AS WISE INSTRUCTOR ONCE TAUGHT-YOU DON’T MESS WITH DAWG ON FOOTBALL FIELD OR IN STREET FIGHT-COS IF YOU DO, YOU WILL FEEL BITE

MJC

March 15th, 2011
3:49 pm

@NC State

I’m not. I just like pointing out how both of you are on the intellectual level of a goldfish.

JIMMY V CHEATED AND WAS FIRED

March 15th, 2011
3:50 pm

BOW TO THE DAWGS BOZO

JIMMY V CHEATED AND WAS FIRED

March 15th, 2011
3:51 pm

MJC LIKES GEORGIA TECH-BBWAAHAHAHAHA-THERE’S A WINNER

MJC

March 15th, 2011
3:51 pm

@BOW

I do? This is news to me.

unifynormal

March 15th, 2011
3:54 pm

NC State bball went undefeated in ‘73 so I’ll tack on another NC for them, that makes 3.

goldfish

March 15th, 2011
3:55 pm

@MJC,

Dude, please give us more credit than that.

goldfish

March 15th, 2011
3:59 pm

Plus, even this “goldfish” (as MJC would say) can recognize the fact that BOW is a Techie. No Dawg fan would run any smack about basketball. No way in the deep blue sea a Dawg fan would run any smack on a BB blog.

hotdawg

March 15th, 2011
4:01 pm

Surely Coach Fox will have the wisdom not to taint his record by joining a school that employed the scumbag Jim Valvano. Yes, I say scumbag, despite Dick Vitale’s attempts to exhalt him to sainthood (the brotherhood of Italia is tight).

Ed Zachary

March 15th, 2011
4:06 pm

Yow!

FullMetalJacket

March 15th, 2011
4:15 pm

Jeff, I believe the NCSU basketball HC job is ultimately the better job than UGA. UGA fans (with chronic pigskin-brain disease) can’t appreciate the money and tradition that NC State can provide a basketball coach. As for facilities? Give me a break. The arena, practice, and workout facilities for State are much better than UGA’s. State could never compete with UGA for a football coach or budget, but I’d take the Wolfpack over a sickly inbred Bulldog any day in a basketball fight.

Snowgirl

March 15th, 2011
4:19 pm

“Was looking for Ashley Judd in the stands behind the Kentucky bench. Found Mike Woodson instead. Major disappointment.”
You’re still worrying about him? Grow up. This isn’t high school anymore. He’s moved on, you should be a big boy now and grow up too.

FullMetalJacket

March 15th, 2011
4:19 pm

If asked, Fox would go in a heartbeat, especially with the numbers you’re talking. UGA basketball has a great, rich tradition with lots of loyal followers and a state-of-the-art arena, right? Actually, UGA bball has Dominique. Hmmmmmm. Why would anyone want to go to the founding member of the ACC to coach basketball for more money when they could could spend their time explaining how a basketball isn’t a football in Athens? Get a clue, UGA fans. Fox may stay at UGA awhile longer, but if he’s really any good he’ll be leaving you someday, and soon. I think he’s a very good coach and State would be wise to consider him.

BOWdcked Dog in China

March 15th, 2011
4:21 pm

Bow. You are.

JIMMY V CHEATED AND WAS FIRED

March 15th, 2011
4:24 pm

JIMMY V WAS A DIRTBAG, LOW-CLASS CHEAT WHO WON WITH ILLEGAL RECRUITS-N.C. STATE ISNT A BLIP ON THE RADAR IN ANY SPORT IN COLLEGE ATHLETICS-TOTAL NATIONA TITLES-UGA DOMINATES THE WOLFIES-LOOK IT UP-JIMMY V ONLY BECAME FAMOUS B/C HE DIED OF CANCER AND HIS BUDDY DICKIE V EXALTED HIM-BEFORE THEN HE WAS A SCANDALOUS COACH WHO WAS A SECOND RATE BROADCASTER

JIMMY V CHEATED AND WAS FIRED

March 15th, 2011
4:25 pm

TO MY FRIENDS AT NC STATE-ENJOY THE TOURNEY…LOLOLOLOLOLOL-DREAM OF THE 80S WHEN YOU CHEATED 2 WIN-SINCE THEN-NOTHING BUT THAT BIG WHITE BOY-TIM GUGLIANNA OR SOMETHING

JIMMY V CHEATED ANNC STATE = 5TH BEST NC SCHOOLD WAS FIRED

March 15th, 2011
4:27 pm

NC STATE = 5TH BEST NC SCHOOL- UNC, WAKE FOREST, DUKE, UNC ASHEVILLE

NC STATE = 5TH BEST NC SCHOOL

March 15th, 2011
4:27 pm

JIMMY V COULDNT HOLD HUGH DURHAMS JOCKSTRAP

unifynormal

March 15th, 2011
4:35 pm

Not that goofball Mr ALLCAPS deserves a response, but the allegations against V came years after 1983 and did not involve that NC team.

unifynormal

March 15th, 2011
4:37 pm

Here’s a headline for you: UGA admits to NCAA violations in recruitment of linebacker Ray Drew

Einsteindawg

March 15th, 2011
5:20 pm

I agree with most of you that Coach Fox may leave one day, but not for NC State. Debbie Yow is an example of the “Peter Principle” (my apologies to the Dawgette posters here) and is almost as qualified for AD as our former AD.

Georgia football, Georgia Tech basketball, need major turnarounds | Jeff Schultz

March 15th, 2011
5:20 pm

[...] – Report: Mark Fox may be targeted for opening at N.C. State [...]

CrackDaddy

March 15th, 2011
5:40 pm

Durham’s jockstrap=Evan’s red panties

Pete

March 15th, 2011
5:53 pm

I’m a graduate of NCSU and old enough to remember the mid 1970s and early 80s when the Wolfpack competed at the highest levels. Unfortunately, they are going to have to rebuild gradually – find a talented young coach and go from there. Sure, NCSU is in the ACC and just down the road from Carolina and Duke – basketball country, for sure – but they’ve been stuck in mediocrity for too long (28 years since 1983) to expect to attract a name coach at this juncture.

We are not after Fox

March 15th, 2011
6:06 pm

He’s playing y’all for a raise – his reps puts this garbage out there. State is wayyyy better job than UGA though. I won’t argue why as it would validate the possibility of there being a contrarian stance.

Pete, Mark Fox is NOT a "name coach"

March 15th, 2011
6:12 pm

We are preparing to offer A list coaches upwards of 3 million not Fox. If we went to our B list he MIGHT be on there but I’m doubtful and we’d offer him 1.5 – 1.75. Sure UGA could match it but it is UGA. The team Fox would inherit has 3 5-star sophomores on it (2 of which are from ATL), 2 4-star juniors and an incoming 4-star center with top 150 3-star role players. Lowe’s leftovers are more talented than what he has this year.

woebegong

March 15th, 2011
7:45 pm

Darn Jeff.
You need to update this article to get more blog pages. Tim has you by double in the negative, stupid remarks bloggers today.
I am amazed how every blog sponsored by the AJC, turns into a pissin’ contest. Surely, there are some grown-ups that comment on these blogs aren’t there? You do realize that the AJC uses a lot of you as pawns and when they write an article such as this, that has no factual content, your negative comments make them feel as though they have readership. I will either assume that Jeff has some type of inside information or he is starting a rumor. Either way he has succeded in getting you all to spend time insulting each other, and therefore his pawns have done his job for him.

Brad

March 15th, 2011
8:11 pm

Truly surprising. I was expecting this coach to announce his interest before leading his team to the NCAAT. I should create a format for writers to follow. I (insert name of coach) am not willing to leave my (name of tournament bound team) in favor of (coaching position at whatever school). Feel free to follow this format for eternity.

J

March 16th, 2011
1:59 am

The last time NC State did anything was during the Jimmy V era. They are now a whipping boy for Duke and UNC, so why would Mark Fox even want to think about going there? He has a chance to win SEC championships at UGA. He would come in 3rd place, 4th place, or even worse at NC State.

Timbodog

March 16th, 2011
8:47 am

Not so fast, Jeff…you realize we’re talking basketball and not football right?

Like it or not, the ACC is a better conference and Tobacco Road is THE place to be for college basketball.

Now I think Georgia is (and long has been) a sleeping giant of sorts, but NC State is a top 20 destination for college hoops.

If Fox stays, it’s because either NC State doesn’t want him or he’s just really committed to our program.

It won’t be because we’re a more prestigious program. Not in basketball, Jeff.

Beer me (on sunday)

March 16th, 2011
3:15 pm

This one is to Georgia and alcohol on sundays!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOM_UuQzc0

Mark Fox to GT

March 17th, 2011
8:44 am

Have it on very good authority that Fox is talking to Tech. Would be a good move for Fox and Tech.

Stinger2

March 17th, 2011
6:17 pm

Mark Fox to GT: How could Fox be talking to GT while he geting his team ready to play in the NCAA?

ACC Fan

March 19th, 2011
11:58 pm

It’s funny to read all of these comments about NC State. I’m not even an NC State fan and I recognize that the NC State job is a huge step up from UGA. Listening to you people act like you have any basketball heritage whatsoever is laughable; it’d be like claiming that back in 2006 the Wake Forest head football job was a better job than Ole Miss because they made the Orange Bowl. You Georgia homers just keep right on thinking that the Georgia job is comparable to anything in the ACC and we’ll just keep on winning national championships.

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