Florida, Muschamp close to hiring Charlie Weis as assistant

Charlie Weis was unsuccessful as a head coach but he always has been solid as an offensive coordinator.

Charlie Weis was unsuccessful as a head coach but he always has been solid as an offensive coordinator.

If Florida’s hiring of former Georgia safety Will Muschamp as its head coach stunned Bulldogs fans, try this: Muschamp’s offensive coordinator may be Charlie Weis.

Yes, that Charlie Weis.

Long time Gainesville Sun writer Pat Dooley and ESPN’s Chris Mortensen — both of whom are as solid as they come — are reporting that Weis could be headed to the Gators to run the offense. The former Notre Dame head coach and New England assistant currently is the offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Dooley said on his radio show, WYBC-FM in Gainesville: “In terms of Florida’s offensive coordinator, if you’re driving in your car, I want you to pull over. When I say this, you’re going to freak out. I think this is going to happen but I don’t know that it’s going to happen. That’s why you won’t see it in the paper [Gainesville Sun] tomorrow unless I get another source on it. I think your new offensive coordinator for the Florida Gators is going to be Charlie Weis. I’ve heard this from some people in the NFL, that that’s going on. My first reaction was, ‘are you kidding me, why would Charlie Weis leave Kansas City to go to Florida in the same job’? … Wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense.”

Here’s an audio link, via SportsByBrooks: http://media.sportsbybrooks.com/2010/12/weis.mov

Mortensen has filed a story on ESPN.com with the headline: “Sources: Gators pursuing Charlie Weis.” It includes this: “Weis is expected to take the job, but no firm agreement is in place.”

Kansas City is 10-5 and headed to the NFL playoffs.

This would be a grand slam for Muschamp, who is changing Florida from a spread offense to more of a pro style. Weis was dreadful as a head coach at Notre Dame but he has long been one of the game’s best play-callers and is excellent at developing quarterbacks.

We’ll update you with more as the story develops, but what are your early thoughts on this?

UPDATE: Chiefs coach Todd Haley, asked about the Weis reports, said: “It would be news to me. I have no idea. That’s not something I would talk about right now. Our focus is on the Oakland Raiders. At a later date, if something comes up, I surely will talk about it.”

– By Jeff Schultz

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110 comments Add your comment

Russ, the Temporary Mascot

December 31st, 2010
3:01 pm

Russ, the Temporary Mascot

December 31st, 2010
3:02 pm

First again.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2010
3:04 pm

Stay away from Matt Cassel in fantasy football next year.

JSS

December 31st, 2010
3:04 pm

Hmmmm… That’s different… Nothing surprises me anymore…

Paul in RDU

December 31st, 2010
3:09 pm

Jeff – my response was exactly the same as yours
‘are you kidding me, why would Charlie Weis leave Kansas City to go to Florida in the same job’? … Wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense.”

KC has had a tremendous turn around this year and is in the playoffs – going to UF makes no sense to me.

reebok

December 31st, 2010
3:09 pm

makes no sense to me…

JAC

December 31st, 2010
3:10 pm

Perfect for UF. Another obnoxious Yankee in the sunshine state. Better clear a table at the mess hall for him…

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:10 pm

Yeah right. Won’t happen. Weis was terrible at the college level. On second thought, hooray! Go Dawgs!

JSS

December 31st, 2010
3:10 pm

@ Davenpoop…
Do you think (Josh) McDaniel and (Todd) Haley smoke a piece pipe if Weis hits the bricks?

JSS

December 31st, 2010
3:11 pm

“peace pipe”

Joey

December 31st, 2010
3:11 pm

That should about do it for spread-type offenses in the SEC. I would venture a guess that there will be no full-bore spread offenses in the league five years hence. The novelty has begun to wear off, methinks.

Jeff Schultz

December 31st, 2010
3:11 pm

“OBama” — One more and you’re out.

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:12 pm

Just imagine him lounging by the pool with his wet XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXL white t-shirt on.

Jeff Schultz

December 31st, 2010
3:12 pm

Paul in RDU — All I can think is he hates working for Todd Haley.

Jeff Schultz

December 31st, 2010
3:13 pm

Tech Tard — Weis was terrible in wins and losses, but his offenses at Notre Dame weren’t terrible.

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:14 pm

Miami (florduh) is turrble.

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:15 pm

You’re right Jeffy Boy. The Clausen Brothers are a coach’s demise.

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December 31st, 2010
3:15 pm

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Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:16 pm

Jeffy, wins and losses IS ALL THAT MATTERS. You’ve been hangin’ with Paul “Moral Victory” Johnson too much!

1wildgator

December 31st, 2010
3:19 pm

It doesn’t matter who the OC is for Flordia, we will still beat the bull puppies not year!!! GO GATORS!!!

Joey

December 31st, 2010
3:20 pm

From an offensive personnel standpoint, bringing him in is going to make quite a few of those Urban-type recruits – all around athletes that tend to excel in the spread – a lot harder to work into a more traditional, pro-style offense. Also worth pondering how many of said athletes may decide to transfer to another school like Missy State where they do still run that offense.

Evansdawg

December 31st, 2010
3:21 pm

They can have him. His best days are behind him.

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:24 pm

Nice FUDA Chuck!

OLeary

December 31st, 2010
3:24 pm

Techtard, shouldn’t you be getting ready to get drunk in Memphis while you’re team stinks it up against UCF? Georgia sucks lol

JSS

December 31st, 2010
3:28 pm

“Clausen” and you folks who want throw around the term: “Coach killer” at QBs were deafly silent. Those other QBs who were actually capable of winning were discredited by the use of the term with those clowns walking around!

1wildgator

December 31st, 2010
3:28 pm

@ Joey – I don’t think its just a spread thing, offenses and defenses run in cycles. I think the spread isn’t going anywhere too soon. I just think teams will mix it in with a little more pro style offense. It doesn’t make since to be in the spread when its 4 and inches! Got my Gators in trouble a few times. Line up in the I sometimes and play smash mouth on 3rd and short or 4 and short.

Tech Tard

December 31st, 2010
3:29 pm

George, no. Sadly I am at work. I am getting ready to get drunk though. I can’t wait! You should come out tonight. Lots of drunk girls. They will barely notice what a NERD you are.
How did yall do in your bowl this year? Hmm? Hmm?

Jerry Maguire

December 31st, 2010
3:29 pm

Weis has to be doing this for more leverage/money.
Otherwise, he wore out his welcome with Todd Haley.
He can be quite annoying, can’t he?

Not Disappointed

December 31st, 2010
3:32 pm

This could be interesting. Better qualified people are making this decision. Intersting at best!

Joey

December 31st, 2010
3:34 pm

Yes, offenses (moreso than defenses) run in cycles, but the spread offense is clearly a fad type offensive scheme that will probably go the way of the old veer offense that was so “it” in the 60’s and 70’s. Teams might mix it in here and there with whatever else they might do, but I don’t think you’ll find too many that use it full time ala UF during the Urban era.

Matty Dawg-Brave-Falcon

December 31st, 2010
3:36 pm

Do any of you know who developed Tom Brady? Charlie Weis! No one can question his QB development skills! I hope he doesn’t go to Florida, because UGA will have to send his ass back to the NFL again! Murray is gonna be lights out next year for Georgia, watch what I tell ya! The kid is gonna be the best QB in the SEC!

Andre

December 31st, 2010
3:36 pm

I don’t know about you guys, but I’ll leave K.C. any day for Florida.

wxwax

December 31st, 2010
3:37 pm

Huh.

Obviously, two questions. First, why? Second, why college?

You offer a reason for the why: he doesn’t like being beholden to Haley.

As the college versus pros, if this is how it works out, I guess it mean he wants another shot at being a college head coach someday. Proving he can work with college kids would be a good start.

But still. If there’s that much tension in Kansas City, why haven’t we heard about it before now, 17 weeks into the NFL season?

wxwax

December 31st, 2010
3:38 pm

Spread’s demise?

What offense are both teams in the BCS Championship game playing?

Joey

December 31st, 2010
3:41 pm

I didn’t say it would disappear overnight. I said it would probably lose its popularity over time and go the way of other fad offenses historically. Count the number of quarterbacks playing on Sundays that came from pure spread offenses. I can only think of one. That ain’t gonna change much either in the future.

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hbcuclassics

December 31st, 2010
3:45 pm

HBCU Classics All-Americans

Offense:
QB Matthew Johnson, Bethune**
QB Stanley Jennings, Albany St**
RB Walter Sanders, St. Augustine
RB DeAngelo Branche, Norfolk St
RB Frank Warren, Grambling – broke Walter Payton’s rushing records
WR Raymond Webber, UAPB
WR Ronnie Childs, Albany St
WR Lennel Elmore, SC State
OL David Mims, VA Union
OL Johnny Culbreath, SC State
OL Mike Mavromichalis, Albany St
OL Natiel Curry, Bethune
OL Josh Harrison, SC State

http://www.hbcuclassics.com

JB

December 31st, 2010
3:53 pm

Good For Muschamp……He can’t draw a play in the sand….Better hope his Ego will fit with that program…..He won’t be the head man, but he could be a lot of help to Muschamp….

Gator86

December 31st, 2010
3:57 pm

Weiss was bad as a head coach, but he was solid gold as an offensive coordinator. I smell another Jacksonville ass beating for the puppies. The puppies may rule tiny Ga Tech, but the Gators own the puppies.

Prez Obozo

December 31st, 2010
3:59 pm

What ever happen to Will Muschamp trying to hire Kirby Smart from Bama? Is it a dead deal???

CBL1978

December 31st, 2010
4:07 pm

For Charlie Weis to make a path back to being a head coach having a Florida team running his offense competing for a national championship and playing every week on national tv is better than coaching the offense on a 10-5 team that is NEVER on television and has only a few bright spots and mostly marginal talent. KC is 10-5 because its a well coached team not because its stacked with talent.

dawgfan

December 31st, 2010
4:07 pm

Weis’ offenses looked good against the rust belt creampuffs that he played every year at Notre Dame. Remember his only foray against an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl one year? A total bloodbath. Granted, he’ll have more talent at Florida than he had at Notre Dame though.

The Wild Dawg

December 31st, 2010
4:09 pm

When will UGA make some bold hiring decisions?

Bulldawg Nation

December 31st, 2010
4:15 pm

People that own us:

Visor Boy
The Zookster
Urban
Charlie Weis???

Phil

December 31st, 2010
4:18 pm

Nobody really knows what Weiss’ motivations are at this time in his career. He might be forced out due to Haley’s close ties with Josh McDaniels. He has a special needs son and maybe settling in a nice southern college town with a great hospital with slightly less pressure than the NFL would be what he needs right now. Money shouldn’t be a problem. His ship has sailed as far as being a head coach, so becoming the offensive architect for a defensive minded coach doesn’t seem very far-fetched. For UGA fans that laughingly say it would be great, better think again. His offenses at Notre Dame were never the problem.

robertussen

December 31st, 2010
4:24 pm

Jeff Schultz

December 31st, 2010
3:11 pm

“OBama” — One more and you’re out.
thats what all of us are screaming…..couldnt help myself man. way too easy, by the way i oppose republicans and democrats. thats just for sake of funny

Bob

December 31st, 2010
4:31 pm

If this is true I’m sure the media will go ahead and hand Florida the next 3 SEC titles and at least one national title, but a bunch of big rock star names will not guarantee success for them. Has Muschamp ever worked with Weis? I don’t think so. Who knows what will happen. There could be a clash of personalities, differences in philosophy, etc. Or they could win 6 national titles in a row. We just don’t know. One thing is for sure though. The hype will be through the roof.

Stinger2

December 31st, 2010
4:40 pm

If these rumors are indeed true, Weiss may have reasons that he will never reveal to the public for thinking about a return to the college level. Some of the speculation on this blog could be a possibility but more likely there are other undisclosed and more important reasons if he is considering a change.

tennessee tom

December 31st, 2010
4:43 pm

Casey Clauson was a stud,during his 4 yrs he won both road games at Fla.don’t think anyone else
in the sec has done that in the last 20-30 yrs

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