NFL MVP race: Vick, Brady even (Ryan, White close behind)

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I think it’s too hard to say who is the mvp until the last two games of the season are played.

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Matt Ryan has had many moments of greatness this season as well.

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Not a Falcon fan at all but its hard to vote against Ryan or in my mind Manning.
New England showed that they can win without Brady. I think its system there.
Vick is the sexy pick, but would the Eagles be that much worse off if Kolb was leading the team?
You take Ryan off the Falcons or Manning off the Colts the teams would be a shell of themselves

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Seems to me that if you’re considering White, you’d also have to consider Gonzalez. The presence of Gonzalez opens up so much for the passing game. Even if Gonzalez’s numbers don’t match up with White (and there’s no reason to expect them to, TE vs. WR), take Gonzalez out of the equation and White isn’t having anything close to the same season.

Hey, White has had a great year and is easily the best Falcons receiver in a long while. But I just can’t make a serious argument for him as MVP.

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Mike Vick is more a candidate for the comeback player of the year in my opinion.

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Katherine

December 21st, 2010
11:47 am
Matt Ryan has had many moments of greatness this season as well.

Yea throwing interceptions at key moments is greatness, the falcons would be nowhere without roddy white who caused the fumble against 49ers and the catch against the ravens

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Isn’t it amazing someone called BowWow likes me

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Hey MV7

Who led the team down the field against the Ravens and threw Roddy White the ball he caught for the win?

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VICK!! But I still love my BIRDS! Go Birds!!

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Without a doubt it’s Vick to do what he has done after coming out of prison and going to a new team he’s my choice. Brady second he knows the sys like the back of his hands and Matt Cassell showed it’s the system by winning 11 games win he started. I would put Rivers then Matt Ryan 3rd.

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MV7

Who led the team to the win against the Packers? How about the Saints? Who made the unbelievable throw on 3 and 20 against Tampa? I could go on an on.

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vote for vick the mvp over brady? nah.

vick’s a nice story but stats aren’t in same league:

vick has 20 TDs/5 INTs to brady’s 31 TDs/4 INTs.

anything who thinks vick is mvp is voting with something other than their head.

vick will be a great comeback player of the year, though.

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Vick is a Murderer,

No, they wouldn’t, and this is why too many in the ‘black” community as a whole lack standards and integrity, as they have proven over and over–like the acquittal of an obviously guilty OJ Simpson, the re-election of political candidates, like Marion Berry, that are obviously criminal, and even condoning Vick’s activities, all in the single interest of “helping a brother!”

Personally, I am proud of what Vick has done to turn his life around. I’m glad we now have Ryan, but I am equally glad Vick has apparently turned his life around and, if genuine, he can be a testament to all that one can have it all, deservedly lose it, and then change for the better to get it back. It is, however, the degenerate blacks like those at the “town hall meeting” and those who are Falcon fans than wear Vick jerseys to the Georgia Dome and cheer for him over their own team that I am more appalled. They are simply cheering for Vick because, in their small minds, he is a black QB succeeding in a “white man’s world” and they would pull for him for this reason alone even if he was an ax murderer–simply because his is black!

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DawginLex

December 21st, 2010
12:08 pm
MV7,

You love Vick we know that. But to downgrade Ryan “just because” makes you look like a Vick homer idiot.

To be honest no one in the media is even talking about white and ryan for MVP, this debate is between Vick and Brady

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MV7,

That’s not my point.

you blast everything Ryan does and give him no credit.

THAT is what makes you look like a Vick homer idiot.

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black people will vote for vick for mvp.

white people will vote for the best qb for mvp.

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DawginLex

December 21st, 2010
12:12 pm
MV7,

That’s not my point.

you blast everything Ryan does and give him no credit.

THAT is what makes you look like a Vick homer idiot.

What did I blast ryan about???? Did ryan lead his team back from 21 points in 7 minutes??? No, Ryan or White are not MVP but Vick is

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To Vick is a murderer … Yes. If Tom Brady or Brett Favre or Matt Ryan or Peyton Manning fought dogs, were arrested, condemned, ruined HIS own career … not mine let me add ( I’ll get more on this in a moment) … came back a changed man, showing dedication, and I was a fan of his to begin with, then yes I would forgive him and feel the same about him.

People think it’s a black thing. To an extent, coming to his defense is what’s a black thing because it’s the majority of the hate is coming from white people who barely wanted to give the guy a chance to begin with. Now that he screwed up, it comes across as an I told you so, and never again should he be given a chance … but the overall story is a human being who was punished and has come back to change his life, there is no shame in being a fan of a person like this. People want to say Vick RUINED our franchise and RUINED the falcons … he didn’t ruin the falcons. He didn’t hurt me. He didn’t have me wasting my money … he RUINED his own life. The falcons were mediocre for a couple years prior to Vick getting caught up. Vick isn’t the reason Jenkins and Roddy white were dropping all those passes. White said it himself that he wasn’t changed until Joe Horn came and taught him how to be a professional. VICK missed out on that opportunity to join in on the party by ruining his life … he didn’t ruin me. He actually helped us out … if it weren’t for his 70% effort, we wouldn’t have Mike Smith, Matt Ryan, and Thomas Dimitroff.

So no, I have no disdain towards Vick. It took the proverbial “slap” in the face to wake him up. Good for him. He’s having success now and I’m proud of that. I’m a falcons fan. I’m also a fan of Vicks. If you have a problem with that, then that’s your opinion. However, if they come to the dome, guess what … I need my falcons in the superbowl. If the eagles beat us, I’ll root for the guy.

I see nothing wrong with that.

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“Truth be Told”…so will the Mexicans vote for Sanchez? And who will the Asians vote for?

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Matt Ryan – Superbowl MVP

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

With no playoff wins, yea noodle arm will be the MVP sitting at home

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MV7

That’s what I thought. You have no comeback for that. You just hold a grudge against Ryan because he replaced you beloved Vick.

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latinos watch football, but they spell it futbol and use a different shaped ball, so no mvp votes from them. i suspect both latinos and asians couldn’t care less about the nfl mvp.

in a nutshell: brady is the mvp.

take race out of the equation and look at the numbers.

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MLH

December 21st, 2010
12:20 pm
MV7

That’s what I thought. You have no comeback for that. You just hold a grudge against Ryan because he replaced you beloved Vick.

Dude is this even a debate??? Vick is better than Ryan hands down

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Okay, so I’m assuming you put Ryan and White in there because, gee, I don’t know, you are a falcons fan?

That’s fine actually, as the two have put up good seasons and are certainly worth the debate, but to say they are the only other contenders? Please, give me a break. You should at least be smart enough to have an “other” option in the poll. Let me rattle off some names for you. Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Jamaal Charles. All of whom, more specifically the first two are just as worthy to be in discussion. Rivers dealt with injuries, holdouts and crappy players all year, and still had nearly record breaking numbers. And Rodgers, though it might not appear to be the case, is just as viable. The Packers have no run game, and without Rodgers are nothing on offense. Both the Detroit and Patriots losses proved that. Sure, Matt Flynn had a nice game, but he couldn’t orchestrate the comeback at the end. Rodgers probably would.

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The MVP is still up in the air, and it is between Vick and Brady, with Brady holding the slightest edge. If Vick has two more signature performances like the N.Y. game, the award is his. Don’t be surprised if we see co-MVPs, a la Peyton and McNair a few years back. That seems just as logical. Both are having career years.

“Larry” and “Vick is a Murderer” are two ignorant individuals. Let me ask you this question, if Sarah Palin was black, would white America embrace/glorify her and her family? I thought so, lol!!

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@Larry … you’re wrong. Folks were mad at the town halls because he was convicted in the public eye before he was in court.

That’s all … this small minded black guy just wanted to get that in.

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MV7. Please shut up. As a Falcons fan i still pull for Michael Vick even after all that he did to tear down the franchise after he had built it up. But you are jealous that your “boy” Vick has been replaced by a better QUARTERBACK in Matt Ryan. Part of the MVP debate is settled in the Win Column, and Ryan has the edge there buddy. Enjoy your blind loyalty to the dog killer and I’ll enjoy our Superbowl.

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MLH

December 21st, 2010
12:26 pm
MV7

Actually it is a debate considering Ryan is only in Year 3, and can break the record for most wins EVER by a quarterback in that amount of time. I never even said he was better than Vick. Just calling you out for bashing him for no reason other than your Vick crush.

NEWS FLASH: Nobody is talking about Ryan on any media network for MVP. Jeff only did that so you falcon fans won’t be left out

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I think Farve’s transgressions are probably the closest to Vick’s trials and tribulations, but he’s never come close to the evolution that Vick has shown this year.

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hmmm, i like the sarah palin/mike vick analogy.

maybe we could lock them both in a closet and see what happens.

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MV7,

Still say you never bashed Ryan?

Yeah, didn’t think you would have a comeback for the truth.

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truth be told
December 21st, 2010
12:29 pm

hmmm, i like the sarah palin/mike vick analogy.

maybe we could lock them both in a closet and see what happens.

Idiot…sarah palin didn’t kill any dogs or do anything illegal. What a stupid thing to say!

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Well no duh…they never talk about the falcons but that isn’t Ryan’s fault. The only time they do talk about the falcons is when they lose…it stinks.

Its sad the falcons don’t get the respect they deserve on espn, like someone just picked the bears over them, they are a great team

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Killing dogs is illegal….honey

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DawginLex

December 21st, 2010
12:30 pm
MV7,

Still say you never bashed Ryan?

Yeah, didn’t think you would have a comeback for the truth.

The points you just made was my case for white for the MVP, I never bashed Ryan

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rollo,

Actually, if a black woman that has conservative values, family orientation, faith based beliefs, a dedicated wife and mother, I would vote for her in a second. Let Condoleezza Rice run for anything and she has the vote from this white boy!

You see, that’s where me andyou, and those like you, are so different–I vote and pull for the best of the HUMAN race while you vote and support exclusively the BLACK race! This is called “integrity”–look up the meaning!

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i am condescending to everyone. don’t think it’s because you’re a woman

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^moron

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Joe Tess Fish House
December 21st, 2010
12:40 pm

Katherine needs 2 be at home cooking and cleaning. Otherwise she will never get her a man.

Typical…why don’t you cook and clean for yourself. Then you might get out of your momma’s basement.

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Let me start by saying that I hate the Patriots!………But how can anyone put Vick ahead of Tom Brady…What are they Smoking??.I’m not knocking Vick but he hasn’t started 3-4 of the Philidelphia games and has showed that he is a Dynamic Force when he is Coached Properly like he is now(Too bad the Falcons never had anyone that could coach or keep Vick in Line)…BUT………Brady has 2 Rookie tight ends,a short guy who packs some Wood(Woodhead)and another Short Guy(Welker) who they stole from the Dolphins for a 2nd round pick!.Also a Guy that was washed up in Seattle(Branch).a Motley Crew at Best!………No Interceptions in 8 games!.Shreaded the Steelers,Bears,Jets recently…..all good playoff teams…..A No Brainer!………..People who Vote for Vick just feel sorry for him……….What will he do after he gets that Hefty Contract after this season??Who Knows and Who really cares in Atlanta….I know I don’t….I don’t want to see Brady get Mvp either………now the Guy who Mentioned Matt Kassel makes sense to me….where would K.C. Be Without him………looking at who they would get with the first or second draft pick…that’s where!.Philly without Vick…still a good team with Kolb………..Patriots without Brady?………Right where the Dolphins are looking at another 7-9 season or worse!…..Sorry Matt…..Tom is the Sensible Pick!

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I couldn’t agree more with the assessment that Vicks “Body Of Work” should exceed the 3 games he was out recovering from and (injury), which I think should have been pointed out. The 3 games missed isn’t like he was just sitting there and then replaced Kolb. Another point is would Brady still be still having MVP numbers under the same conditions as Vick due to a lesser talented offensive line, or what would Vick’s stats look like if he had the line that Brady has?
Though Brady, and Vick are the cream of the with 2 games remaining this season they clearly aren’t playing on level fields Vick- missing 3 games (who knows what stats he would have compiled in them), and Brady- having excellent protection (who knows how he would perform with the Eagles type of protection). Overall they are good at what they do with what they have.

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I’m not white nor black. In my view Tom brady is the best QB right now in the league (this season) and he should win the MVP, while Vick comeback is a great, and i tend to think that more of a comeback player of the year award. Brady pretty much out ranked Vick in every stats there are as a QB. MVP should be to the player playing the best throughout the league, and only based on stats ( team wins, TD/Int, rating, etc.) and shouldnt based on emotion. Vick made a mistake and paid his due and now he is a changed man, his story is unbelievable. However, MVP is the best player (usually only for QB type of award) Brady > Vick ( stats, rating, team wins, competition etc). Brady is even outplayed peyton manning, which dont often happend. Just my two cents.

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really, cjw?

mike vick is by far the mvp?

even though brady has thrown for 31 tds to mike vick’s 20? and has more wins?

what exactly are u judging mvps on these days? the greatest number of felony convictions?

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I have read many blogs from various cities and its a damn shame how people in atlanta make everything abt race yet nobody in that city has the heart to try and put that bull$#@t to rest. Its almost 2011 and you people r just as racist as the folks were in the 50’s. Only in this society can a person be openly racist but the minute they speak against homosexuality(atlanta is the mecca for gays) they are looked at like they are public enemy number 1. Back to the topic had vick played the entire season then he would be mvp hands down but depending on how these last two games go I think brady wins by a hair

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Prepare your eyes, and ears, for Vick’s return to Atlanta

Posted to: Sports Tom Robinson

Tom Robinson
Sports columnist for The Virginian-Pilot

The Virginian-Pilot
© December 21, 2010
A few things…

You do realize where all this is headed right?

Sunday, Jan. 23, 3 p.m. in the Georgia Dome. The Philadelphia Eagles vs. the Atlanta Falcons for the NFC championship and a Super Bowl berth.

Michael Vick, back where it all came crashing down.

My oh my. Pad your walls. Find your ear plugs. Prepare now for every sonic Tweet, commentary and media roar – present company very much included – that will bombard your world if this transpires, because it’s going to get noisy.

The din already enveloping Vick and his combustible Eagles (10-4) hides the fact that Atlanta (12-2) is one win from locking up top seed in the NFC and home field through the postseason. The Falcons are 6-0 in their dome this season, 19-3 there the last three seasons.

Usually, I disrespect teams that play the “disrespect” card, but the overlooked Falcons might have a case. They’ve lost only to the Steelers, 15-9 in the opener, and the Eagles, 31-17 in Philly in October, but don’t get nearly the media credit or attention merited by a 12-2 club.

The path’s not been the toughest: Atlanta has beaten five teams with winning records, including 8-6

Tampa Bay twice. Then again, same for the Eagles; five victories over winners, though two fewer overall.

Know what? Nobody’s going to care about any of that if these guys are still standing in a month. So clear that afternoon to be ready. You have been warned.

An ensuing drama with Vick is the richness of his next price. He can be a free agent, but at worst, the Eagles will lock him up with their “franchise” tag – or what passes for that status depending on the NFL’s labor talks. But there’s little question that Vick, potentially the league’s offensive Player of the Year, will stay an Eagle or that he wants to stay, as he’s said, because they offered him his chance when he was toxic.

A source familiar with Vick’s contract plans, who requested confidentiality, told me weeks ago Vick would aim for the $15 million-a-year range. One would presume that number’s higher now. As a handy reference, the four-year extension signed this season by New England’s Tom Brady, another MVP contender, was for $18 million per, with $48.5 million guaranteed.

To be sure, this season’s soundtrack for Vick, who’s emerging from bankruptcy and has countless debtors, is one note, played on an endless loop: ch-ching ch-ching ch-ching.

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Terrell to answer your question society would be more critical of Brady/Ryan is they had committed the same crime..there would be none of that “its in my upbringing” song and dance..Mike paid for his crime he got a 2nd chance and he is by all indications making the most of it..and my hat is off to him for it.

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Condoleeza Rice is smart and qualified to be president, Sarah Palin is not. Also, are tea partiers and conservatives pushing Condoleeza to run in 2012? Not!!! Also, I’ve voted for both white and black candidates for President in my lifetime. Can you say the same? Let me guess, none of those black candidates possessed those “All-American” values you referenced.

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Larry

You have a lot of people rooting against him because he’s black, but you don’t mention anything about that. I’m happy with Matt Ryan at QB and I’m a Falcon fan before anything or anybody else, but you know what? Not everybody watches the game like that. A lot of casual fans have their favorite players rather than the team and will cheer the player on.

I don’t diagree with you but you also have to acknowledge the other half as well when it comes to this issue. Yes, you will have some that want him to be MVP because he’s black but then you will have some that want Tom Brady to be MVP because he’s white, and then you will have some on either side who will want Brady or Vick for various reasons, but the winner of the MVP should be the player that is most valuable to his team’s success this year and right now it’s hard to pick one over the other, but I want Matt Ryan to win MVP!

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so brady has more wins, more games started, more games finished, more passing yards, a higher passer rating, more touchdowns (all to a weaker WR corps) and vick has more rushing touchdowns? and more hype from past mistakes?

well, then i stand corrected. vick is obviously more deserving of the mvp award this year. it would be a crime (oopos, there’s that word again) to give it to the better qb when there is a mike vick ready to be handed an award he hasn’t earned.

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Matt Ryan for MVP? This blog is a joke

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All I will say is that Ryan in less than 3 years has a winning percentage of 73%. He is 32-12, 19-1 at home and just wins, period. He has or will have as many TD’s in his first 3 years as Vick did in 6, and while all want to talk about what Vick did to build the Falcons, his winning percentage for Atlanta was 56% at 38-28-1. No back to back winning seasons, NEVER threw for more than 3000 yards, a 54% completion rate. (Ryan’s is 63%).
I know this is a discussion about who is the MVP for this year, but I am so tired of hearing the talk about how good Vick was in Atlanta, what he did for the city and the team. What he did was SCREWED this city and this team. Although I commend him for finally deciding to dedicate himself to his profession and yes he has had a tremendous year, the fact that Matt Ryan came in as a rookie on the heels of the Vick and Petrino debacle, went 11-5 and took this team to the playoffs was a miracle. Yes as a rookie he lost the playoff game against Arizona, but so did Philly in the NFC Championship game with a veteran QB in McNabb.
Ryan isn’t flashy, doesn’t throw with the Brees numbers, although if he had to he could. (look at Baltimore game). He is 1 win away from tying Marino for the most wins EVER by a QB in his first three years. That includes the Manning brothers, Vick, Brees, Rivers, Favre, Starr, Stabauch, Bradshaw, Unitus, all of them. That is a feat within itself.
So if you want to put Ryan down, and raise Vick up, that’s fine, but back it up. And not with the Ryan hasn’t won a playoff game. That is coming and soon.
If you want to be a Vick fan, that is fine. But don’t say you are a Falcon fan and a Vick fan, and then come to the Ga. Dome with your Falcon #7 Vick jersey on. Be man or woman enough to put on your Green #7 Vick jersey because you aren’t a Falcon fan.
Over the course of time Ryan will rate with the best ever in the league.

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We want vicks, we want vicks, vick sells, vicks is on tv all the time damm it write an article about vicks.

we like vicks, we wants vicks, it’s vick’s world all day. we want vicks. oh vicks u da man. oh yeah vicks. vicks burns teams. vicks is hot.

we wants vicks.

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BTW, it’s not only the AJC that is talking of Ryan for MVP, look at the link below from the NY Times from Dec. 6.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/matt-ryan-the-comeback-kid-for-m-v-p/

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MV7 for MVP
Tom brady is the best QB right now

Are you serious? Dude Tom brady can’t do anything Vick is doing to Great defenses right now.

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Put Vick in the AFC, and play those teams ranked in the top 10 D and do you think Vick still have that 10-1 as a starter? ravens, Jets, Packers, bears, chargers, steelers, etc…. i said team wins not starter VIck didnt even start all 14 games. Brady’s team is 12-2. Vick beat giants which is pretty much the only team ranked in the top 10 D, but look at Brady. I like football and watch them and give My honest view. I dont let my emotion in the way. I’m a colts fan and i still brave enough to give credit where it is due and Brady To ME (you may not agree) is the best QB (this season) right now in the league.

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Ryan has had as much impact as Vick or Brady. It should be a three way race but espn doesn’t even know the falcons exist.

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Man Uggs and Hair Plugs for everybody?

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NFL Playoff Scenarios: Root For Bears If You Want To Avoid Eagles, Falcons Fans

by Jason Kirk • Dec 21, 2010 9:32 AM EST

You’ve seen it coming since Michael Vick first took over for the Philadelphia Eagles back in September against the Green Bay Packers: Vick vs. the Atlanta Falcons in the playoffs. The Eagles beat Atlanta soundly in Philly minus Vick and in Atlanta last year, though the latter was without Matt Ryan, Michael Turner, and so forth.

The media really, really wants this to happen. Vick in the Georgia Dome is the only NFC Championship Game scenario that could possibly match last year’s New Orleans Saints vs. Brett Favre storylines. I, for one, do not want it to happen. If the Falcons are able to beat Vick in the playoffs and exorcise all the demons and what have you, then great. But let’s not take the chance if we can avoid it.

Thus, we root for the Chicago Bears to keep winning. They’ll take home field over the Eagles if they win out, regardless of what Philadelphia does. Besides the fact that you’d merrily take Jay Cutler in the Georgia Dome in January over Vick, this would also force Philly to play in round one. Vick would likely have to get through both a furious New York Giants team and the Bears to get to us.

Not scared of Vick — just keeping it real. This Eagles team carved up the Falcons with Kevin Kolb behind center.

Am I being a sissy coward of a worrywart? Do you want Vick in the playoffs?

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I hate to say it but Mike Smith is a better coach now then I was after I lost all those Super Bowls!

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120th

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And I just bought me and my son a Matt Ryan jersey. Not because he is white, but because he is one heck of a football player and he is a Falcon. I would buy a Harvey Dahl jersey and a Scott Case throwback if I could find one. You know why? Because I like/liked the way they play/played. I rooted for Case when he went to Dallas and was happy when he won a Super Bowl ring. But Keith Brooking aka Highway 56, aka Brooking 3:16 gets no love because of his big mouth, lol!!!! Has nothing to do with a player’s skin color in my mind. For some reason, there are some players you just love more than others.

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Power Poll: Big-play Eagles soar after giant miracle

Vinnie Iyer SN Icon Sporting News

The 2010 Philadelphia Eagles are among the best big-play teams in NFL history. In 14 games, they have had 73 plays go for 20-plus yards, scoring on 15 of them — both good for No. 1 in the league. They also average a league-best 6.3 yards per play.

Although Sunday’s rally from three touchdowns down in the fourth quarter to beat the New York Giants 38-31 was improbable, considering the Eagles’ quick-strike ability it wasn’t implausible. Michael Vick was responsible for most of the dazzle with his strong arm and fast legs, setting up fellow speedster DeSean Jackson to score the game-winning TD on a punt return.

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Who cares? Who will be the QB hoisting the Lombardi Trophy is all that matters.

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Vick is an ESPN, CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox story. They love the fact that a convicted felon is playing well, and he is. It makes for good reality television. I have no problem with Vick coming back and doing well. Good for him. He finally is giving to the game that gave to him in a BIG way.
At issue is without Brady, without Ryan, without Brees, their teams would be nothing. Without Vick, the Eagles would still contend. Not taking ANYTHING away from his marvelous season, but his stats and his value to the Eagles in not the same as Brady to the Patriots and Ryan to the Falcons.
Do I believe Ryan should win the MVP, no. Do I believe Vick should win the MVP, no. Do I believe Brady should win the MVP, yes. Why? Name one receiver besides Wes Welker that plays for the Patriots? Can You? And look at the stats. Hell they let Randy Moss go at the beginning of the year and Brady just ticks right along.
The discussion on the board about the Eagles possibly playing Atlanta in the NFC title game is lame at this time.
If Chicago wins out, and Atlanta does the same, they will have first round byes, (Chicago holds the tie breaker since they beat Vick and the Eagles) while Philadelphia will play one of the two wild card teams, probably the Giants for the 3rd time. It’s hard for ANY team to beat one team 3 times in the same year although the way the Giants crumble it’s possible, but yet difficult. In all likelihood IF the Eagles beat the Giants and if the Saints beat the NFC West division winning joke, you have the Bears playing the Eagles, in Chicago and the Saints coming back to Atlanta to play the Falcons. I do not, for any reason believe the Eagles would beat the Giants for the third time, nor do I believe the Eagles would beat the Bears if they did.
All I am saying, quit talking about the difficult road the Falcons would have in the playoffs. This team is capable of beating anyone. They are well coached, the time of possession keeps the other teams offense off the field while wearing down the defense and they believe, whether anyone else does or not.

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Yes I’d love to see MV play us in the Dome man what a great game that would be

Another Blowout; Eagles 45 Falcons 14

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Week 15 power rankings

Posted by Mike Florio on December 21, 2010, 8:32 AM EST
With most playoff spots still undecided, there’s still only one semi-plausible way to draw lines among and between the league’s 32 teams.

Besides, we’ve been doing this for 14 weeks. We can’t stop now.

1. New England Patriots (No. 1; 12-2): A close win against a team starting an untested backup may have been the best way for coach Bill Belichick to get the Patriots to stop believing what everyone is saying about them.

2. Atlanta Falcons (No. 2; 12-2): Stomachs in Georgia already are full of butterflies in anticipation of the possibility that Mike Vick will be returning for the playoffs.

3. Philadelphia Eagles (No. 6; 10-4): Could the first season after the McNabb era be the season when the Eagles finally win a Super Bowl?

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Terrell,

You wrote: “Larry, you have a lot of people rooting against him because he’s black, but you don’t mention anything about that.”

Then let me say it– I don’t care for anyone who pulls for or against one because he is a particular color. And yes there are whites that pull against Vick because he is Black, etc, etc. However, I believe as a group blacks are more likely to pull and vote for someone simply because he/she is black than any other race. This is not true with most whites as it would have been impossible for Barak Obama to have been elected without a significant number of white votes.

I am big on integrity and simply doing the right thing, regardless of one’s color or religion, period! Agree with me or not, my integrity is beyond reproach and never will I be accused of being hypocritical! The day blacks-and whites–come together and consistenly chose the right things and the right person that will best serve Americans will be the day our county becomes great again.

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BTW, the MVP vote is PRIOR to the playoffs, not after.

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The Giants were averaging nearly 200 yards a game rushing the ball, with their 2-headed monster with Brandon (6′4 270lbs) Jacobs and with the change of pace faster back and the Eagles shut them down in the 1st game holding them to 39 rushing yards and on Sunday with 100 yards between the two of them.

Then Asante (shutdown) Samuels, who leads the NFL in picks, even after missing 3 games, didn’t get any throws on his side of the field. The Giants can pull that off because they have about 4 good receivers, but the Eagles were able to DOMINATE the Falcons because they shutdown the run and Asante shutdown Roddy, which meant weak armed Ryan was clueless.

So, the Giants were ranked 2nd “overrall” in defense and the Eagles scored 28 points in 8 minutes and 38 for the game. Just imagine how many points they will put on the Falcons soft defense.

That game will be over by the 1st quarter, just like the 1st meeting this season.

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@ howtofish – DUMMY, the MVP voting is done before the playoffs.

Go back to your knitting.

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2008 Healthy Mike Turner in playoffs

2009 Unhealthy Mike Turner out of playoffs

2010 Healthy Mike Turner in playoffs

See a trend

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MESSAGE TO YOU FOOL BLOGGERS:…….I might Blow a Few but I Don’t Choke On The Big Ones!

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Flacons need 2 sigh TO after this season. If they ever want 2 go 2 the Superbowel, they beter do it. They blew it this season.

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Just our of curiousity, what are Philip Rivers’ numbers? I wouldn’t trade him for Ryan or White– and probably not Vick either. Rather have either him, Manning, or Brady than any other NFL QB’s.

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Michael Turner is the MVP for the Falcons

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Hey choke, you make me laugh, I give you points for sticking to your lame arguments for 3 years against stats and facts and reality, but you have stuck to your own delusional chants! Never change dude

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MV7, My vote would be Roddy White but Turner, Ryan, and Gonzalez are all reasons we are tops in NFC

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GregKennesaw… By the fact that you laugh proves my point.

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Someone asked about P. Rivers stats this year. Unreal, that is what they are. As follows:
4141 Yards
29 TD
11 Int
67% Comp. rate
105.7 QB rating

Yet his team is 8-6

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what point you moron?

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I see there is a major race going on for the MVP with the front runners being Brady and Vick, but I see it this way. The Most Valuable Player award goes to the player most valuable to his team. Some are arguing about the Int’s or that Brady has 31 TD’s and Vick has 28 TD’s (3 less games). There are some that says give Brady the MVP, and Vick the Comeback or Most Improved. Neverthless, I look at the 2 like this, if I was starting a team who would I choose? Michael Vick- because the body of work he’s done far exceeds any other QB this year because his offensive line is the worst of all the good QB’s, thus lack of pass protection, and run blocking. Ryan even has big physical runners with his line, Brady, and Brees on most games great time in the pocket, as does the Manning brothers with Eli having a running game at his disposal.
So give me Vick- Thus my vote for MVP, cause sometimes the numbers don’t tell the whole story people.

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Why are we talking about Noodle Arm for MVP? Is this a JOKE

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Joe Tess Fish House I think our recievers have played well this season, TO did have a great season, I think we need a speedster like Jackson from Philly that can fly down the field, TO has definately slowed down and does take plays off, had him on my fantasy team so I watched alot of there games on NFLticket

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It has been 13 seasons since anyone other that Vick has won a playoff game for the Falcons.

Please provide feedback

Joe Flacco ……. 1st rookie to go to Championship game

Mark Sanchez…….2nd rookie to go to Championship game

CHOKE…………… 1st rookie to have 4 turnovers in playoff game

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Joe Tess Fish House I asked if you could be a bigger moron and with the trade for T.O comment you proved you can! Congrats ! Are you Serious we are talking about the 12-2 starting QB’s being MVP..thats all.

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MVP Race
1a Mike Vick
1b Tom Brady
3 Drew Brees

Matt Ryan nowhere to be found

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Realalist

December 21st, 2010
1:33 pm
Matt Choke,

A rookie who took his team to 11-5, after a 4-12 season the year before, coming off an 8-8 and 7-9 Vick years, that’s who.

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In 2007 the Ravens were 5-11.

In 2008 the Ravens were in the Championship game

You want some Whine with that cheese?

Next excuse

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Yeah but the Ravens didn’t have a convicted felon that went to jail right before the season started and a coach that quit with 3 games left.

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Rivers has had a very good season, but the lack of a signature win…special teams collapses…and most of all, they are not guaranteed a playoff appearance if the Chiefs win out….those are all the things that will keep Phillip Rivers from the MVP.

MVP of the league will come from a playoff team (not a rule but how things work in general given that there are several very deserving guys on playoff teams)

If the Chargers were a 11-12 win team, I’m pretty sure Rivers would be right there with Brady for MVP considerations.

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In their last 6 games Tom Brady has beaten all 6, 5 of those teams are probable playoff teams. Vick has beaten 5 of 6, 2 of which are probable playoff teams. Vick lost to the Bears, Brady dismantled them. Vick is good but it is going to take more to get up to Brady levels.

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13 L-O-N-G years and the only playoff memories are Mike Vick….ha ha.

Ask Brett (2002 playoffs) who his role model is

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Ruff,

Vick has 20 TD’s passing. 103% rating and 5 int.
Brady has a 109% rating and 31 TD’s and only 4 INT which is incredible.

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MV7, Choke

You love to talk trash about Matt Ryan because you’re both scared to death of him and the Falcons.

‘Nuff said.

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Realalist

December 21st, 2010
1:39 pm
Yeah but the Ravens didn’t have a convicted felon that went to jail right before the season started and a coach that quit with 3 games left.

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I’m running out of “whine & cheese”, would you like a side order of NOODLE

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Does Matt Ryan have a Superbowl Ring, or even a playoff win??? But Dree Brees Does and the Who Dat Nation will invade the trash city Atlanta Monday Night GO SAINTS!!!

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Yeah Brees and his 20 int’s this year really make him MVP material

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Who Dat Nation we are going to make what we did to you and Drew in YOUR house look like a walk in the park..and not a walk in the 9th ward..trash this!

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Rob Thomas

December 21st, 2010
1:44 pm
MV7, Choke

You love to talk trash about Matt Ryan because you’re both scared to death of him and the Falcons.

‘Nuff said.

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People are scared of the clap but doesnt make it a good thing

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Drew Brees has 19 int’s this year and he’s got 2 games to go.

He’s trailing only Eli Manning in the league this year.

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Ok brady has not thrown a interception, but did brady run for 133 yards in one game? The Pat do what they do every year, but who is selling out the place in every city he goes to? Vick, Vick,

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# n 2007, statements were made by his father, Michael Boddie, about possible dogfighting activities in 2001. Boddie told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that around 2001, Vick was staging dogfights in the garage of the family’s home in Newport News and kept fighting dogs in the family’s backyard, including injured ones which the father nursed back to health. Boddie said his son had been urged to not engage in the activity, but continued. He stated: “This is Mike’s thing. And he knows it.”[40] Within days, Vick’s mother, Brenda Vick Boddie, told the Newport News Daily Press “There was no dogfighting (at our home). There were no cages.”[41]
# In early 2004, two men were arrested in Virginia for distributing marijuana. The truck they were driving was registered to Vick. Falcons coach Dan Reeves recalled that he lectured Vick at that time on the importance of reputation, on choosing the right friends, and on staying out of trouble for the good of his team.[42]
# On October 10, 2004, Vick and other members of his party, including employee Quanis Phillips, were at Atlanta’s Hartsfield International Airport on their way to board an AirTran flight. While they were passing through a security checkpoint, a security camera caught Phillips and Todd Harris picking up an expensive-appearing watch which belonged to Alvin Spencer, a security screener.[43] After watching the theft on a video tape, Spencer filed a police report. He claimed that Billy “White Shoes” Johnson, known as the Falcons’ “fixer”, interfered with the investigation.[42] Although Vick representatives declined to make him available for an Atlanta police inquiry, six days later Spencer got the watch back from them.[43]
# In March 2005, Sonya Elliott filed a civil lawsuit against Vick alleging she contracted genital herpes from him in the autumn of 2002 and that he failed to inform her that he had the disease.[44] Elliot further alleged that Vick had visited clinics under the alias “Ron Mexico” to get treatments and thus knew of his condition. On April 24, 2006, Vick’s attorney, Lawrence Woodward, revealed that the lawsuit had been settled out of court under undisclosed terms.[45] Many fans bought custom jerseys from NFL.com with Vick’s number 7 and the name “MEXICO” on the back. The NFL has since banned customizing jerseys with the name Mexico.[46]
# November 26, 2006 – After a loss to the New Orleans Saints in the Georgia Dome, in apparent reaction to fans booing, Vick made an obscene gesture at fans, holding up two middle fingers. He was fined $10,000 by the NFL and agreed to donate another $10,000 to charity.[47]
# January 17, 2007 – Vick surrendered a water bottle which had a hidden compartment to security personnel at Miami International Airport. “The compartment was hidden by the bottle’s label so that it appeared to be a full bottle of water when held upright,” police said. Test results indicated there were no illegal substances in the water bottle and Vick was cleared of any wrongdoing.[48] Vick announced that the water bottle was a jewelry stash box, and that the substance in question had been jewelry.[49]
# On April 24, 2007, Vick was scheduled to lobby on Capitol Hill, hoping to persuade lawmakers to increase funding for after-school programs. Vick missed a connecting flight in Atlanta on Monday to Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia. He later failed to show up for another seat booked for him later that evening. On Tuesday morning, he did not attend his scheduled appearance at the congressional breakfast where he was to be honored for his foundation’s work with after-school projects in Georgia and Virginia.[50] Vick’s mother Brenda accepted the award from the Afterschool Alliance.

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl

The lead story on the Falcons is about someone being shot – and it links to AJC – nothing to do with sports of any kind, much less the Falcons.

You people at AJC are at least partially responsible for this – you let these POS haters into these places that are meant for fans of OUR team – you let them stir sh*t up and they ruin every chance to actually talk about football – do you Schultz, Bradley, D’O, do any of you have any self-respect or local spirit? BAN these a$$holes! Get them the f- OUT of here!

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I guess you think a 9-7 season is a success???? Vick went 9-6 in 2002 and still made the playoffs and won in Green Bay also

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Who Dat Nation ESPN is picking your team??…round here sonny that is know as the Kiss of Death!

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Vick had 2 winning seasons and 3 losing season and one break even. Oh, let’s talk about 2005 when we started 6 and 2 and then lost 6 out of 8. While Vick was dogfighting, throwing 15 TD’s and 13 Int’s during that span.

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MV7 for MVP Yippee he ALSO went 8-8 and 7-9 didn’t he? Your armor seems to be cracking there little guy.

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The Saints will win because the Falcons aren’t a good team, they get calls from the ref(ie vs the ravens) and they get lucky and luck will run out sooner than later

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Wow lets stick to the SUBJECT, we are not talking about WINNING SEASONS, Playoff wins is the Subject and Matty Ice has ZERO

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Who Dat Nation what a ain’t fan talking about luck and getting calls…Have you NO SHAME??

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oh please, you don’t go 12-2 because of refs, and you make your own luck except when the other team’s kicker misses a chip shot that a middle schooler could make, now that was LUCK! shank it baby!

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On April 24, 2007, Vick was scheduled to lobby on Capitol Hill, hoping to persuade lawmakers to increase funding for after-school programs. Vick missed a connecting flight in Atlanta on Monday to Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia. He later failed to show up for another seat booked for him later that evening. On Tuesday morning, he did not attend his scheduled appearance at the congressional breakfast where he was to be honored for his foundation’s work with after-school projects in Georgia and Virginia.[50] Vick’s mother Brenda accepted the award from the Afterschool Alliance.

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The Falcons aren’t a good team???

You guys drafted Reggie “I hope I’m Eric Metcalf” Bush at the top of the draft. You LOST TO ARIZONA AND CLEVELAND!!!!

Sweep Dat this week.

Yall are going to be crying in your gumbo after this one.

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Who Dat Nation by the way make sure your guys like you know show up..I promise you Drew and the boys don’t think the Falcons are a joke.

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Mike Vick is better than Matt Ryan and America has spoken, check the Pro Bowl voting, and MVP race which matt ryan is no where

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2010 Eagles Schedule

Green Bay(no playoff)
Detroit (no playoff)
Jacksonville (probably no playoff)
Redskins (twice) (no playoff but lost them them once and they kicked the hell out of Vick)
49′ers (no playoff)
Falcons (NFC best, but not the same team of 9 weeks ago)
Titans(no playoffs)
Colts (playoffs probably)
Giants (maybe playoffs)
Bears (playoffs)
Texans (no playoffs)
Cowboys (twice) (no playoffs)
Vikings (no playoffs)

Looks like a killer schedule for the Eagles NOT

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MV7,

Pro bowl voting means nothing. It’s only for out of work losers who live on the government that vote thousands of times. We will let the players and coaches pick the real pro bowl team.

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You left out New Orleans on you 2010 Falcon schedule.

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@Rob Thomas, Did the Falcons beat the Eagles earlier this year????

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shank it 27-24!

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Mike Vick and his skull cracking (dogs thrown against the wall)

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Who Dat Nation dude the Falcons don’t play “layoff” games and after Monday the ain’t won’t be in any “playoff” games either.

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Who Dat,, Whats a Layoff Game

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@Rob Thomas it would be tougher for the Eagles to blowout the falcons again??? Sure, it would be tougher for the falcon defense because Kevin Kolb stands in the pocket while Vick can run and pass, I see another blowout

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The Saints will beat the Falcons and the playoffs are next, the falcons will lose to us in the playoffs also

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I dont think there are may people at all (other than extreamist connected to PETA or strongly sharing PETA values) who resent MV getting a second chance in the NFL and who don’t think his comeback and successful season is a great story.

Also, there are very few who feel that MV should still be in Atlanta. After what he did to the franchise, facing prision time, and questionable reinstatement into the NFL there is just no way Vick could have remained in Atlanta. Atlanta could not take that chance after the multiple off field incidences. The few and only people who could think otherwise, the overwhelming majority are also extreamist,… racial extreamist. it is the only way one could say that MV was done wrong or should still be with the Falcons.

Businesses can only go so far with employees who shead bad light on the company and fail to perform. As good an athelete as MV was and is he did let the business down with his off field actions and the final action cause him two years LOA with no assurance of returning. Falcons had to move on. Anyone who feels otherwise has the same problem that MV had when with the Falcons. Go grow up like MV did. I guarantee you MV does not feel not that the falcons did him wrong. You?

Same with Bret Farve 19 years ago… Same with Zach Meclenburg at UGA. Both atheletes who were let go because of their lack of focus and off field actions. We all know how BF turned around and grew up… My bet is the ZM will do the same at LSU next year. But they had to move on to another business (team) for their second chance at a career. We dont hear racial extreamist screaming and putting down the home team in these cases now do we.

Good luck to MV and his new vision, attitude, friends, and priorities. I wish him the best. But I am a Falcon fan …. GOOOOOO Falcons.

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Thanks Mr Enema,, I stand corrected

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Wassup Choke? I see you are still fighting the lonely battle. Keep up the great work.

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He also Divided this city like nothing has……. And for the record he did not unite crap. The team as a whole did that during those seasons by winning.

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MV is a great athelete and seems to have really improved his passing and ability to read defenses. A more complete QB than when with the Falcons, which he admits is due to putting in more time studying the game.

However, I still feel that his long term effectiveness will be a big question for any team who has him as a starting QB. Due to his style, he is always going to be more prone to injury that say a MR, TB, or PM.

Same as when he was with ATL. The best pure athelete on the field, but we could not count on him to be on the field week in and week out. And not because he is not a tough dude… he is; just liklihood of injury is greater due to his style of play.

I might rather watch MV for entertainment and great plays, but I would rather have a MR, TB, or PM on my team and in control.

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Another copy and paste masterpiece by Matt “Choke” Ryan,,, nice

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The Falcons are definitely not a joke, and if you say they are you’re just showing how much you fear them.

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[...] – NFL MVP race: Vick and Brady are even (Ryan, White close behind) [...]

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got to be Brady with that weave bro

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Michael Vick.

because he’s operating without an offensive line. Kolb would be toast by now. In fact, he lost his job because he was hurt.

Brady’s not working with name receivers but he gets solid protection. Most QB’s will play well if they get time. Brady, being great, plays great.

But Vick is doing all of this without time in the pocket. He’s taking a beating. But he’s making the throws. And he is, once again, the most exciting player in the NFL.

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When this season is over, we will all have our excuses for why the NFL’s best quarterback in history did not win the MVP award in this, his finest season.

Leave aside the statistics. Tom Brady, the best winner in the NFL, the heart and soul of Bill Belichick’s NFL records and the best of all time, is bound to be lost in the many claims and counterclaims concerning his performance this year, and for that matter any year in the NFL.

Let’s not forget that Brady was honored with both the AP Male Athlete of the Year and NFL MVP in 2007:

“In 2004 and 2007, Brady was named ‘Sportsman of the Year’ by The Sporting News. He was also named the 2007 NFL MVP, as well as 2007 Male Athlete of the Year by the Associated Press, the first time an NFL player has been honored since Joe Montana won in 1990.”

Most of the current talk is about Michael Vick because of his play in his last game against the New York Giants. Call it whatever you want, but the fact is that the Giants were ahead by three touchdowns in large part due to Vick.

So when he rallies the troops back from a lead he had lost, when people make much of his “huge” talent and when players and others claim if he does not become the MVP, it will be racism, remember this: Vick is what his entire team is. Philadelphia has done little more than in years past. Their coach, running and passing along the margins, is the same as won so many times before.

Special? Perhaps in some ways. Forever tainted. Without a doubt. One will never be able to look at Vick without thinking of the dogs—pictures so grotesque and horrible one cannot even show them on TV. Vick as MVP?

We can also turn to the Philip Rivers fan fest full of former quarterbacks who laud his accuracy and excellence. The “anyone but Brady” crowd. As they have become more and more outdistanced by the obvious shortcomings of their choice, they turn to others.

The normal “turn-to” is the old standard Peyton Manning. They use the excuse that Manning is better because he has “never had a running game” or that he is no choker even though he cannot win the big games or much of anything that counts.

We have Atlanta’s current quarterback and other lesser lights. Yet we have to say, at the end, that they are just excuses.

Remember this.

Brady has managed to revive a group of youngsters and over-the-hill receivers into a team, meshing the best of each into a winner that is the odds-on favorite to win Brady a fourth Super Bowl ring. In an age of great quarterbacks, perhaps the best group ever, he stands out. With the best defenses in the age of defense, we have a quarterback with no interceptions in so long it seems like he will never be intercepted again.

Brady is a man whose leadership brings out the best in everyone—whose grace and gentlemanly ways make even the coldest times on the most frozen fields seem tender and warm.

If this is not the MVP this year, the NFL will become yet another NBA—rewarding the most noisy and obnoxious and anti-establishment, anti-team athletes, instead of the steady rock that makes us all wish for another game highlighting him on TV.

If you want someone who makes the league tick, who has the highest-rated games, who has fans looking for the next televised game profiling the man because he is the Man, you have to vote for Tom Brady. Any other vote would be pure insanity.

By Cliff Potter

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The only award that really matters is who will be the Super Bowl MVP.

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Bubba IS JEALOUS !!

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MV7 for MVP – Since your main argument against Ryan is that he hasn’t had any success in the playoffs (yet), and Vick has acheived the ultimate goal of losing in a conference championship game, is it safe to say that Trent Dilfer is way better than Vick could ever dream of being?

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How is this even a debate…

I think vick is amazing and exciting to watch. But look at the stats.
Brady has completed more passes, has a higher passing percentage, 11 more touchdowns, 1 less interception, the highest QB rating in the league, averages more yards a game, completed more passes for 20 yards, more passes for 40 yards, a better 1st down percentage, 58 more first downs, the best record in the nfl with one of the worst defenses and a crew of no-name skill players surrounding him. If you think the AP voting will be close then you are out of your mind. Unless Brady is horrible in the last two games and vick does the impossible its a no-brainer. In face, statistically, Vick is 3rd behind phillip rivers. (although i’d put him at second) And those trying to sneak ryan into this pointless debate… please stop. He has the 13th best passer rating in the league and one of the best recivers in football to throw to, and plays in a horrible conference. dont make this personal, dont make this racial, make it logical. Brady is the overwhelming mvp and results will reflect that.

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First off, Vick is 9-2 not 10-1 this year. The Eagles have 10 wins total and the most impressive came with Kolb at QB against the Falcons. Vick lost as the starter against the Redskins in Philly and against the Bears. You don’t get a free pass for a loss by getting yourself hurt scrambling when your team is down 2 scores.

Second, if Bow Wow thinks Vick not getting MVP is racist then he must think the statistics are racist too, since Brady is well above Vick’s numbers. Don’t give me this “but Vick got hurt” garbage. Part of what makes an NFL player valuable is his ability to stay on the field.

And for those claiming white people in Atlanta didn’t respect Vick for being black – that is laughable. I loved the guy, but he completed 55% of his passes and has even admitted he didn’t dedicate himself while in Atlanta to becoming the best quarterback he could be.

The common defense of Vick was that he “just won” so the mediocre passing stats in ATL didn’t matter…well guess what? Ryan “just wins” more than Vick ever did in Atlanta. We never won more than 11 games in a regular season with Vick, and the second best season was 9 freaking wins.

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I’ll tell you this.. NBC cannot stand the Falcons. They are the most bias Network their is in sports… When Mike Vick played for us they would give us low blows whenever possible, Now that he is playing for a higher market Northeastern team and has all of this contraversy they are eating it up and pushing him for MVP. Matt Ryan deserves it soooo.. There would not be a better story in the NFL. It would match the New Orleans Saints of last year. All the Falcons have been through since the Vick incident with the Franchise almost going completely under. What Arthur Blank, Thomas Dimitroff and Mike Smith have done to rebound this franchise. I see us not only going to the Super Bowl but winning it. What a close team and unselfish team that we have. Go Falcons and MVP goes to Matt Ryan deservedly soo…

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yes katherine. the falcons are the only team above .500 in non-conference games in the nfc south. look at their schedules, who they have played, its junk. NFC is usually a joke but I like the eagles this year. Pats/Eagles superbowl

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Hey Anthony Thompson…. Go back to IU where your number is retired. Nobody knows you in Georgia!!lol

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Let me ask you delusional Falcons one question….

Do you think the Philadelphia news stations would run any stories about CHOKE?

Just a thought. Maybe you should voice your anger towards the City of Atlanta. If you are not even the most popular qb in your own City, that says a lot

They probably should talk about Matt Ryan, since Philidelphia is his hometown.

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Matt “CHOKE” Ryan

Just a thought. Maybe you should voice your anger towards the City of Atlanta. If you are not even the most popular qb in your own City, that says a lot

Yep, it says a lot… about the city. You’re probably right that Ryan isn’t the most popular QB in ATL, but he’s a landslide favorite outside the perimeter. Guess where all the money’s at? (Hint: we never bought the $10 seats. Those went to the Vick fans).

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So we are arguing about a popularity contest? Sounds like something Choke would waste his time on.

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well you always thought wrong mgm. 2007 brady was surrounded by pro-bowlers, including a record setting recieving group and got 49 out of 50 votes. hate to burst your bubble

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I only said that Vick elevated Philadelphia higher than that of Brady this year. Not is years past.

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I don’t see how any MVP list can be compiled and not include Michael Turner.

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Matt “CHOKE” Ryan moron Ryan is the best QB to ever play for Atlanta and sonny I’ve seen ALL of them…3 winning seasons in a row…says it all wins are the measuring stick we go by not arm strength, style points ,size of their posse etc just wins..and Ryan is the best at this time in his career.. he will only get better.

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Joe Tess Fish House shut up and watch my fries..

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3 rookies recieve a majority of our passes, we have two no-name running backs, and a defense that ranks last in the league in mult categories and we are 12-2. explain that

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Somebody explain to me please WHY Matt Ryan is NOT a legitimate MVP candidate. Does anybody think that without him the Flacons would be anywhere near this good? Anybody remember 2007? With Matt Ryan the Falcons have the best record in the NFL, are about to lock up the number one seed in the NFC (which I believe the Eagles play in) and have won 8 straight games. Ryan will at least tie Marino’s win record in the first 3 years and if you want to talk stats, Ryan has 25 passing TD’s and 3300+ passing yards which are both more than the “amazing MV7″ while still having 2 games to play!

Oh, and the Vick lovers keep bringing up Vick’s comeback (Giant’s collapse) but Matt Ryan has engineered 4th quarter comeback wins against NO, SF, Baltimore, TB, etc. The only reason the Eagles NEEDED to come back from 21 points is because the Giants were owning them through 3 quarters and then laid back thinking the game was over.

For the record, I think Brady is hands down the MVP mostly because all of his stats are better than Vick’s or Ryan’s and he’s had a much tougher schedule. Vick should and will be comeback player of the year and I love the ring of Superbow MVP for Ryan!

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MV7 proved in 05-06 that he is not enough to life a team by himself. Brady has zero, zilch around him, yet they are 12-2. Carolina has a better roster than the Pats….As far as ICE for MVP, no way. He just operates the machine.

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Here are the patriots stats:

PASSING YDS
242.5
10th
Overall
RUSHING YDS
112.5
15th
Overall
OPP PASSING YDS
263.3
30th
Overall
OPP RUSHING YDS
111.4
15th

Here are the falcons:
PASSING YDS
226.7
14th
Overall
RUSHING YDS
122.6
7th
Overall
OPP PASSING YDS
226.8
20th
Overall
OPP RUSHING YDS
106.1
12th
Overall

Pretty interesting…..

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seriously i feel obligated to post again. katherine turn your computer off. your last post didnt even make sense. please go away

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I can’t believe peopel are picking Vick over Brady, this has nothing to do with race, looks at the stats and you’ll see brady is clearly having a bteer season and msot importantly his team has a betetr record.

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I think there’s a lot of sentiment involved in picking an MVP. Michael Vick has this incredible comeback story because he spent 18 months in jail before coming to the Eagles. But that’s the very same reason that some people won’t pick him as MVP because they still see him as a dog killer.

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Anthony Thompson
December 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

that wasnt an opinion that was a copy/paste of 2 irrelevent sets of arbitrary team statistics.

Yes which I found interesting for the 2 teams in the nfl with the best records……you didn’t have to be a d**k.

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Well the season isn’t over yet…a lot can happen in the last two games.

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Ruff…. the Saints have 4 losses in the NFL this season. Not sure where you are getting your information.

No one is crying for Green Bay even though they aren’t remotely healthy this year. If they were they would be running away with the NFC right now.

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Anthony Thompson- wanna bet?

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the falcons have had only two impressive wins all year. they have a terrible strength of schedule and the only two great teams they have played they lost to(eagles, steelers). there is no way they make the superbowl. and no i’m not going to make a bet with you

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scared?

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It’s funny, I never venture to other teams/cities blogs. The AJC must put out troll feed.

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no the pats d is so inconsistent i wont bet on the superbowl until we have actually gotten there. but the falcons dont have a chance. i’m not sure where all these delusions are coming from. i just took a minute to look through their schedule this year. not much to write home about

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AT- really? How many playoff bound teams have the pats played?

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Any other stupid remarks you would like to add….

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AT- wow, you must be looking it up. You should have looked it up before talking trash.

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Nique

December 21st, 2010
4:30 pm

No one did mv7 wrong except mv7. Mv7 is not a martyr and stop trying to make him into one.

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A summary of what A-hole Trent Dilfer said about the Falcons and the Saints. Taken from ESPN.com He pretty strongly said the Atlanta Falcons are not the best team in the NFL. He went on to compare them to the 2003 Kansas City Chiefs, who went 13-3 in the regular season, but promptly got bounced in the playoffs.

Then, to put the star on the top of the tree, Dilfer went on to say the Falcons are not indestructible at home. As a matter of fact, Dilfer said he thinks the New Orleans Saints can come into the Georgia Dome on Monday night and win, and he wasn’t done there. Dilfer also said the Saints could come back to the Georgia Dome in the playoffs and knock off the Falcons.

Here is the link to that interview/video: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5943160

(Note: Pretty strong stuff coming from the ONLY quarterback to win a Superbowl and still lose his starting job the very next season). What a tool he is. My reaction is this, Trent has pretty much said we would lose several other times this year (Baltimore, Bengals, Packers, Saints, and Tampa Bay) and look how that turned out. So much for “expert opinions”. Go Falcons.!

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Dilfer is just bitter, as most people named Dilfer would be.

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your poll won’t let me vote for Matt Ryan. hmmmmmmmm

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Eric
Matt Ryan is ranked #13 as a QB… so you honestly think he shout be mentioned with Brady, Vick, and Rivers, just to name the top 3. LOL get real

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it blows me away that you have a job. i just dont get how atlanta can’t produce sports journalists… there is nothing… nothing close to Matt Ryan resembling Mike Vick and Tom Brady in terms of the MVP. and where is Philip Rivers? do you watch these games? you need ten hands to count the amount of lucky breaks we’ve gotten to have the record we do, so besides a record, and some clutch late drives… why exactly is Matt Ryan on this list?

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Tbake70. Ur the biggest moron I’ve ever witnessed. Man.

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Vick is an amazing athlete and it is too bad that he elected not to give the Falcons 100% but found the darkside and drugs more appealing than giving his talent to the Falcons and their fans at that time. I still can only assume that it is the color of his skin that caused many of the fans in the Dome to cheer more for Vick than their home team last year vs the Eagles. I was embarrassed for our team, our city, and the people of Atlanta. This man had a $100,000,000 contract, sure buy a yacht, sail around the Carribean during off season, smoke a blunt from time to time, have some ladies at my beck and call. But come training camp be all business, be a leader. And that he was not. MVP? Let the fans in PA voice that opionion but I am a Falcons fan and MV7 did not care about any of us……or did you forget he flashed you the #1 for your support. If you are an Eagles fan, fine, wear their colors and cheer your heart out, but DO NOT COME TO OUR DOME WEARING THE FALCONS COLORS THEN CHEER FOR THE OPPOSITIION. I swear it broke my heart more to see that than the loss against Dallas in the 1980 season.

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According to Larry and Vick is a Killer most of us po’ black folks are glad Mike is stomping on white people. Can I be happy because while he was in Atlanta he was the most exciting player in Atlanta sports history since D. Wilkins? Can I be happy for him since when he was in prison most analyst thought if he every played again he would be a running back or receiver since he misssed two years of football (although Chris Redmon was applauded as a quarterback even though he had been out of football for a couple of years). Can I enjoy the fact that when he was released many NFL teams would not sign him, but now regreting not signing him ( a long list of teams without a qb). Furthermore, when people make general statements like that .. I just say they don’t associate with African Americans so they lump all of us in one category.

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I will enlightnen just a few of you… all blacks do not smoke weed, drink malt liquor, wear sagging pants, agree with crooked politicans because they are black and agree with DUMB tweets from BOW WOW. I cannot stomach going to the farmers market watching live fish getting their heads cut off, or live lobsters being boiled to death. I do not agree with Mike involvment of those crimes either. Surprising, as a black man, I have never seen a dog fight – nor wish to see one! Yet, as I was in a sports bar at Stonecrest mall, more than half of the televisions were on the Philly game and about 60% of the people were cheering for Philly. If the Falcons play the Eagles, the city will be divided… something the national media downplays. I like the Falcons, and they are my home team, but I will cheer for the Eagles!

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Vick is freakishly athletic but….
- he gets no respect with me because he’s not a smart player on the field and plain stupid off the field.
he’s a dumba$$.

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It’s definately not Ryan. Not trying to hate on Ryan, but I don;t think its deserved. Matt Cassell should be ahead of him for sure. Hell, why not throw Mike Turner in there? He’s the man that makes the Falcons go

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Ryan ain’t in the discussion Schultze stop kidding yourself. Turner is more valuable than Ryan. look at Ryan’s avg passing attempt, it is putrid.

The guy is king of 5y td passes

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Vick has had 2 HISTORIC GAMES in the same season. What has Ryan done to be mentioned in the top 3 as you say, Jeff? Dude look at the Chiefs and what Matt Cassell has done. Cassell should be third in my book. The Chiefs were nothing last year

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For the record when I lived in Jville there was a legend about the next great football player. He went on to a University and lead his team to three victories over my beloved Bulldogs. He now is in the NFL and I am one of his biggest fans… oh by the way the National media thinks he will never be a pro quarterback, but I am pulling for him and I am a fan of his. He is white if you didn’t know. Lastly, the numbers are closer than you think. If you add passing and rusbing yds Brady 3578 to 3368. TD’s 32 -28. Again, this is in three fewer games and playing only half of two others. He is 8-1 when he has started and finished a game

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I agree with the other poster who said the Bow Wow tweet was unnecessary. It’s one thing to quote someone who is intelligent and relevant. Bow Wow isn’t even relevant within hip hop.

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Jeff Schultz

Cassell: 24td s 5ints 96.2 qb rating (worse team)
Ryan : 25tds 9 ints 90.5 qb rating (better team)

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@Falcons Fan

You’re basing two bad games on Turner on Ryan being the MVP of the league? Cmon man. Ryan is on the list, which is saying something, but he’s not top 3. They make him top 3 because of a number of things that have nothing to do with football (and I don;t mean race)

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Jeff Schultz — Its funny to hear you say that its not about numbers, but when Vick was here, it was all about numbers….hmmmm.

To me, there’s not much difference between Cassell and Ryan. Opinion of course. Lets be real here..the Chiefs roster is ok….the Falcons organization for once have built a team the right way and things have fallen into place pretty nicely for them

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You take Tom Brady off the Patriots, and they are garbage..
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hah hahahahhha

This happened before and a guy who had never played in the NFL called Matt Cassel managed to win I believe 10 games and became a gazillionaire.

Brady hasn’t won a SB without cheating. all his SB were won by less than 3 points.

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Correct. Mike Smith has done a great job with the Falcons. No doubt

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Mark

December 21st, 2010
7:34 pm
Brady no question. I’m a Falcons fan, but you can’t deny what Brady has been able to do with all the injuries they’ve faced this year. He makes average players look like allstars. I give props to Vick but he has a cast of very good players around him. Where would he be without Jackson?
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What injuries are you talking about? Belicheat makes him look great. If he was great he would not have lost to the giants in the SB.

average players? they have two of the best tight ends in the game and two pro bowl receivers.

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“The only reason the Eagles NEEDED to come back from 21 points is because the Giants were owning them through 3 quarters and then laid back thinking the game was over.”

Uh… you could make the exact same argument about every one of the Falcons’ comeback wins under Ryan too. A comeback win is a comeback win. Some QBs have the mental toughness to orchestrate them, and some don’t. The ones who do deserve their props regardless of the situation.

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[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]

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Jeff you should put a poll out

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Ryan Supporter

December 21st, 2010
7:49 pm
Vick Supporter…..The falcons are a complete team,but rayan makes the team go.it his leadership and support of his cast of players that make it go.The Falcons are not a one man show,this team has a hole cast of mvp players,and thats why they will defete mike vick and the eagles if and when the come to town.
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The falcons have no shot against the eagles especially in a weather friendly environment like the dome.

trust me it will be a blow out. the falcons cannot cover d jackson 1 on 1.

the eagles shut down the g-men’s running game twice this year. expect the same against the falcons.

reid just has the falcon’s number.

the falcon’s d is not in the same league as the giants or the bears.

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there is an internet channel where you can get all daily us sports for free without paying a single dime.

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Well, the only reason they had the Philly – Giants game on is because they played at 1… You probably left when that game was over, and that’s when the Falcons came on, at 4…. Just saying… We’ll see Iggles at the dome… Paid my playoff invoice last week, and I can’t wait.. Go Falcons!!!

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Okay, give me a break! The Atlanta game came on at 4:15 and the Eagles game went off around 4:30. Again, all eyes were on the comeback. Also, as always, there were quite a few Giants fams. Maybe because the game came on locally, most Atlanta fans stayed home???? I left after the win and the sports bar erupted as though the Eagles won the superbowl after the Jackson run back.

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scott

December 21st, 2010
8:04 pm
MAN I HOPE ATLANTA AND THE FALCONS WIN AND GET TO THE SUPER BOWL SO IT CAN HEAL THIS RACIALY DIVISIVE METRO AREA BRINGING FOLKS OF ALL RACES TOGETHER HERE..DIDNT KNOW ATLANTA WAS SUCH A RACIAL HOT BED AND I,M WHITE ..I JUST BEEN READING ALL THE RACIAL HATE..AND I ASK MYSELF ARENT WE ALMOST IN THE YEAR 2011??AND NOT THE 1940,S..I,M A BIG FALCON FAN I WILL BE PULLING FOR THE FALCONS BIG TIME SO WE CAN ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO TAKE OUR MIND OFF RACE!!OUR KIDS OUR WATCHING OUR ACTIONS
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It is all in your head. what you see on the net will never be uttered in person so take it with a grain of salt.

after 400 years of oppression why do you expect things to get better in one generation? things improve everyday.

besides race is a man made classification system designed to confuse and distract the masses.

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The dogfighter returns—–We have one player,i won’t mention names that allmost took Jacksons head off,and you can expect Jackson to be tip towing around,and not be much of a factor in Atlanta.The falcons will rise up and netralize the Eagles speed with hard hitting and smart game planing.Hard hiting allways slows down a fast team.Believe me Vick and the eagles will lose this game!

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Dogfighter: they have two of the best tight ends in the game and two pro bowl receivers.

They are Rookies!!!!! Would they be having this kind of year somewhere else?? I doubt it!! Wes Welker and who else????? They have a young no experience runningback to!

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Mark

December 21st, 2010
8:18 pm
Dogfighter: they have two of the best tight ends in the game and two pro bowl receivers.

They are Rookies!!!!! Would they be having this kind of year somewhere else?? I doubt it!! Wes Welker and who else????? They have a young no experience runningback to!
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Being a rookie doesnt mean you automatically stink.

hernandez is a TE with wr skills. the dude will kill any lb 1 on 1. gronkowski is 6-7 and also a good athlete. those guys are a mismatch whenever they are in the game. those guys are far superior to algee crumpler.

hernandez is better than tony gonzalez. he is smooth did you see his TD against GB?

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Yes I saw it, but comon’ you gotta admit Brady has alot to do with their success.

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Oh and New England has started 30ish different players this year, and it isn’t their defense winning them games.

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Really Davenpoop????!!! I think you need to look at some statistics on Jackson!!!! You guys kill me saying things without knowing stats!

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Vick has lost some games too!!! All your losses didn’t come with Kolb under center.

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“Vick has lost some games too!!! All your losses didn’t come with Kolb under center.”

Vick has lost one game that he played from start to finish. The only other “loss” credited to him was the game against Washington where Kolb played the final three quarters.

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Mark

December 21st, 2010
8:27 pm
New England has 12 players on IR. You can look that up yourself. All I’m saying is MVP goes to the player who did the most for their team. The Patriots would not be where they are without him. I hate saying it cause i’m a Falcons fan but it is the truth. Vick has impressed me tremendously, but the Eagles can win without him!
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your point is not supported by facts.

1. we have seen NE without brady and they were a good team. cassel did an ok job for a guy who never played before. besides brady has never won a sb by more than 3 pts and we know the team was cheating during this time.

if he is so good what happened against the giants?

the pats are a good team. emphasize team. look at the game against the colts. manning did everything possible to lose that game.

Greenbay almost beat them on sunday. the pats are vulnerable against an experienced QB.

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And Vick replaced KOLB in the Green Bay game in the 2nd quarter and DIDN’T lead them back to victory either

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December 21st, 2010
8:44 pm
And Vick replaced KOLB in the Green Bay game in the 2nd quarter and DIDN’T lead them back to victory either
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But he outscored the opposition during the time he took over so during the time he had to play he won.

I can play your game also.

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Vick DID NOT LEAD the Eagles to a win over Green Bay, he lost

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Vick COULD not bring the Eagles back against Green Bay like Ryan did. Vick LOST

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Reason 1 Vick Failed as a Falcon

n March 2005, Sonya Elliott filed a civil lawsuit against Vick alleging she contracted genital herpes from him in the autumn of 2002 and that he failed to inform her that he had the disease.[44] Elliot further alleged that Vick had visited clinics under the alias “Ron Mexico” to get treatments and thus knew of his condition. On April 24, 2006, Vick’s attorney, Lawrence Woodward, revealed that the lawsuit had been settled out of court under undisclosed terms.[45] Many fans bought custom jerseys from NFL.com with Vick’s number 7 and the name “MEXICO” on the back. The NFL has since banned customizing jerseys with the name Mexico.[46

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Reason 3 Vick failed as a Falcon

January 17, 2007 – Vick surrendered a water bottle which had a hidden compartment to security personnel at Miami International Airport. “The compartment was hidden by the bottle’s label so that it appeared to be a full bottle of water when held upright,” police said. Test results indicated there were no illegal substances in the water bottle and Vick was cleared of any wrongdoing.[48] Vick announced that the water bottle was a jewelry stash box, and that the substance in question had been jewelry.[49]

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Reason 4 Vick failed as a Falcon

On April 24, 2007, Vick was scheduled to lobby on Capitol Hill, hoping to persuade lawmakers to increase funding for after-school programs. Vick missed a connecting flight in Atlanta on Monday to Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia. He later failed to show up for another seat booked for him later that evening. On Tuesday morning, he did not attend his scheduled appearance at the congressional breakfast where he was to be honored for his foundation’s work with after-school projects in Georgia and Virginia.[50] Vick’s mother Brenda accepted the award from the Afterschool Alliance.

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You want me to continue or do you want to continue to blame Mora? His own father said Vick was a COACH KILLER

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On July 7, 2008, Vick sought Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection[4] in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newport News after failing to “work out consensual resolutions with each of his creditors,” according to court papers. The initial filing, which was incomplete, listed assets of less than $50 million and debt of $10 million to $50 million. The seven largest creditors without collateral backing their claims are owed a total of $12.8 million. The three biggest unsecured creditors are Joel Enterprises Inc., owed $4.5 million for breach of contract; Atlanta Falcons, owed $3.75 million for “pro-rated signing bonus;” and Royal Bank of Canada, owed $2.5 million for a loan.[73]

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Ryan has given them the chance this year to GO to the Super Bowl. No one even after our beating Green Bay and St. Louis in the two years we went to the playoffs with Vick EVER believed we would beat the Eagles and thanks to Vick and his 2 interceptions that day and a QB rating of 45 we lost as expected. No such thing will happen to Ryan, as he ties Vick in playoff years in 3 years instead of 6

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Vick SUCKED because VICK didn’t care. Mora was the head coach. Do you think Mike Smith is guiding Matt Ryan? No, they are both defensive coaches.
Vick admitted to thinking DURING GAMES about getting back home and killing the dogs. He didn’t care. Only because he is fighting for his financial life at almost 31, now he cares and decided to be something he never was with the Falcons.

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Richard, Alex, MV7 and any others to whom this applies ,,,Jeff got it right on his top 4 in the MVP race. It has nothing to do with being an Atlanta fan, dogfighting, or race and has everything to do with performance (not only of the individuals but of their teams). Tom Brady and Michael Vick are definitely in the lead because of their performance and value to their teams, BUT Matt Ryan and Roddy White also deserve to be in the discussion for the very same reason. Matt Ryan is playing like Brett Favre (the Green Bay version) with his ability to come through in the clutch and Roddy White is no doubt the most valuable receiver in the league. I think most other players and their respected teams aren’t playing at the same level as these 4, and don’t deserve to be a part of the conversation.

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Ryan has given them the chance this year to GO to the Super Bowl.
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the season is not yet over dude, stop talking gibberish and come back to earth.

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“Sometimes you gotta overcome coaching.”

–Vick, after winning a game in 2006 against the Redskins in which he threw a TD pass after calling an unauthorized audible.

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Yeah, Vick was great. He knows it all. He is perfect. He is a great role model for the you in the community isn’t he. Just great. All of Atlanta should be proud that he was part of our lives. What joy we should have in our hearts that Mike Vick was a man among men. I can only think of one person that is better than poor Vick. It is Mike Tyson. Poor guys. Always put down, people not understanding them, people not appreciating them. Poor guys, we should wrap our arms around them and THANK them for SCREWING US without even a KISS

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Does ANYONE believe that Ryan will win this poll? We have out of work, people who totally rely on the government for a pay check that stay home all day and vote for Vick, just like they did for the Pro Bowl.

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Seriously

December 21st, 2010
9:15 pm
Does ANYONE believe that Ryan will win this poll? We have out of work, people who totally rely on the government for a pay check that stay home all day and vote for Vick, just like they did for the Pro Bowl.
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some people believe the earth is flat and in god. believe what you want. santa will be around on saturday.

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Yeah and a white woman will win the Mayor’s race in the city of Atlanta too Santa

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Sh**….I wish I had an “allowance” like Vick’s….

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Greg Mendel

December 21st, 2010
9:21 pm
Hey, Dog fighter. How many fingers am I holding up?
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How would I know. I ain’t the god almighty.

that’s right resort to insults and change subject when confronted with facts.

faux news tactic # 135.

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Vick gets less than 100,000 a year

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Dogfighter, I did like that one. seriously I laughed. Good one!

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I was never into NFL football; I wasn’t raised watching football. I started watched a few years back when the Falcons, who had always sucked, drafted Michael Vick. And it was awesome.
I watched, and I was sucked in.
Now, I am still an NFL fan, but I’m still a Falcon’s fan.
I hope to see a playoff game, in the dome, against MV7.
And I hope to see the Falcons win…… If not, I hope to see Michael Vick take it all the way, just like I used to, when I first started watching NFL football.

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Well in a few years, the Falcons will move out of Atlanta and into the burbs. Probably to Gwinnett County. Blank is as sick of the Atlanta crooks as we are. (That includes thieves in the street and mayor, city council)

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BTW, did I say that VICK Sucks yet!

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BTW, please forgive the spelling and verb tense. I didn’t proofread well. I’ve had a couple beers. And, for all the racebaiters out there, I’m white. And educated.

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Easy answer- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Troy Polamalu
No question that this guy means more to his team than anyone else. He is a difference maker and the MVP of the Steelers. I need to say that the Steelers are one of my least favorite teams, but this guy changes his team when he is on the field.

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MikeDW

December 21st, 2010
9:33 pm
BTW, please forgive the spelling and verb tense. I didn’t proofread well. I’ve had a couple beers. And, for all the racebaiters out there, I’m white. And educated.
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what does being “white” mean? don’t you have a name?

let me guess you were programmed at a government baby sitting factory and unleashed upon the public after being housed for 12 years.

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Katherine,

It is about race. That’s what it has always been about with Vick. Blacks in a minority want Ryan to fail because Vick sucked

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It seems like Vick and Brady are about even, so maybe we need some kind of tiebreaker? As far as stats go, it seems to me a fair tiebreaker is to compare their performances in games against common opponents. Both teams played the NFC North and Indianapolis (the Eagles are still due to play the Vikings, so I will exclude them from this analysis). Against the common opponents Vick has thrown for a 1010 yards with a 63.24% completion percentage, 6 TDs, 1 INT, and an average passer rating of 99.45. He also ran for 258 yards on 38 attempts with 1 rushing TD. Those are solid stats, but the Eagles went 2-2. Now against those same opponents, Brady’s passing stats were: 1059 yards, 70.94 completion percentage, 10 TD, 0 INT, and a passer rating of 126.25. Just for the sake of completion, Brady had 8 rushing attempts for -1 yards and 0 TDs. New England also went 4-0. So Brady’s passing stats are clearly superior, but Vick’s rushing is better (duh!) and he overall had more yards (1268 to 1059) but fewer total TDs (10 vs 7). Overall I think the stats are comparable but the Pats won all the games so I have to give Brady the edge.

Another way of looking breaking the tie is to compare the opponents each QB has faced. Outside of the common opponents, Brady has face several good defenses: the Jets (twice), the Steelers, the Ravens, the Chargers, the Browns and the Dolphins. Including the common opponents, Brady has faced 8 of the top 10 defenses by yardage (he did not face the Giants or the Saints) and 8 of the top 10 scoring defenses (the Saints and the Falcons are the other two). Against these defenses Brady was 9-2. As far as top 10 defenses, Vick has played the Giants (twice) along with NFC North teams (Atlanta has a top 1 scoring defense, but Vick did not play them). Vick has gone 4-2 against top 10 defenses. In terms of opponents we can also consider playoff bound opponents. To simplify things, I will use the teams that would make the playoffs if the season ended today. Vick has played the Bears, the Giants (twice), and the Colts (Vick did not play against Atlanta). Against these teams, he was 3-1. Brady has played the Bears, the Colts, the Steelers, the Ravens, and the Jets (twice). He was 5-1. So Brady played more playoff teams and tougher defenses and still has a better record and similar stats overall.

Against common opponents, the two QBs have played at similar levels. Brady has passed better, but Vick has the a running game to make up for it. However, Brady’s team has done much better against common opponents. Furthermore, Brady has faced tougher competition over the course of the season. So I would have to give him the MVP.

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VickSucks

December 21st, 2010
9:38 pm
Dogfighter,

READ HIS PLEA AGREEMENT. HE SIGNED IT AND ADMITTED TO IT. He even admitted it to Goodell prior to be reinstated.

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you are talking about what he admitted to and I am telling you what law he violated, two different things.

there wasn’t a federal law against dogfighting at the time so he couldn’t plead guilty to a law that did not exist.

read the federal code he was charged with it has nothing to do with fighting dogs and everything to do with gambling.

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what does MVP stand for? M=mike V=vick P=pitbull killer. he should win that hands down lil bow wow. i love Ryan and he is going to be great. but for now Brady is the best.

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“Furthermore, Brady has faced tougher competition over the course of the season. ”

Actually this is not entirely true. If you look at the games Vick has played in full vs. the games Brady has played in full, Brady’s opponents are only two or three wins better than Vick’s opponents. The difference between their strengths of schedule is small enough as to not be statistically significant.

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Mike,

Matt Ryan is not in the conversation for Pro Bowl, Mr. Rogers in GB is better.

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The Eagles have played 8 Prime Time games. They should just call Sunday Night In America……”Eagles Night”

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@Matt “CHOKE” Ryan

Will you be on the blog monday when the Saints destroy the Falcons

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Lol @Frozen Rope, 31-17 and you want a encore

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What defense will stop Vick???? Frozen Rope, I promise you Vick will go off at the Dome

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We’re not worried about Vick DA,,, our next game is the Aints,, you should really pay attention..