Cam Newton’s Heisman is a victory for fact over suspicions

Agreed. Well said, Jeff.

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Cam Newton police report

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/college/cam-newton-lame-laptop-thief

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Newton then turns in a paper he bought off the internet

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/11/foxsportscom_says_auburn_qb_ca.html

Yep Warrick he is innocent

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What was that movie? You got arrested for Future Crimes.

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Oh yeah. I would have voted for Newton.

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The number of folks who cheat in college and high school is a long list. I’ve witnessed teachers “cheat” for their pet students which is never punished. I like to see all the judgmental folks judged by their own high standards. Then they would be in a real fix.

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I still think they’re guilty. Did you see the ESPN interview? Cam doges questions and doesn’t flat out deny it.

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RJ – If he truly cheated, and was up for explusion, why didn’t UF notate his academic records or block them when he decided to transfer with the intent to avoid explusion? If they had done either Cam would not have been able to transfer to Blinn Jr College or Auburn. Perhaps the answer to that question is that all of those stories are fabricated – if not, than I think there’s a much bigger story than just Cam Newton cheating.

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SPIN IT HOW YOU WILL OR MAY JEFF…………………..HE’S A SOCIOPATH & IS NOT WORTHY!!! PERIOD!!!!

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To heck with integrity,

give Reggie Bush back his Heisman Trophy.

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RJ= Thayer Evans.. RJ, Just because FoxSports reports it, doesn’t mean it is a fact.

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Pete Rose is not in the Hall of Fame because he was proven to have gambled on baseball (as well as personally admitting to it). This is unlike the Cam situation which is filled with rumor, speculation, anonymous sources, opinion, and I suspect more than a little bit of wishful thinking. Also, with the Cam situation, whether you like their decision or not, the NCAA, after reviewing all of the evidence, found Cam eligible to play.

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I’m just curious if he played for your team if u would feel the same way.
Some might but a lot of fans would flip flop their argument.
And if he played for Ga, the Auburn people would be all over the dawgs making a lot of the same arguments dawg fans have lately.

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Yeah, it’s true that Cam Newton is the best college football player to come around in a long, long time. And the guy is vilified in large part only because he plays for the other guy’s team. If I was an Auburn fan, I’d be as happy as a hog in slop. [insert banjo music here, and break out the double entendres]. But it’s also true that Newton comes across as a poster child for all the “Hey, look at me” athletes of the world. All that prancing around the field after the game, blowing kisses, and soaking up the adulation of “his” fans is nauseating. Hey guy, act like you’ve been there before. Plus, a small dose of humility in the face of all the controversy surrounding him would have gone a long way toward evening his public perception. Instead, he comes across like a man that has dodged a big bullet, but insists on running back out in the middle of the firing range carrying a target. And something tells me that about $40 million of guaranteed money coming his way next year is just not going to make him any more palatable.

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If you hate Auburn, you hope something else turns up.
If you love college football and hope the young man has turned himself around with maybe better supervision and advisement, you hope there is nothing else.
I am wondering if some dawg fans aren’t angry about Fairley and letting the emotion of that influence them about all things Auburn.

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MV7 SHOULD HAVE WONE THE HIESTMAN TEN YEARS AGO BUT THAT NOODLE ARM DANNY WAFFLE BEAT HIM OUT CAUSE HE HAD STEVE “I DIDN’T PAY NO ONE NO MONEY TO PLAY FOR FLORIDA” SPURRIER AND I WILL NOT ROOT FOR THE FALCONS UNTIL THEY CUT MATTY THE NOODLE LICE ATLANTA TURNED THEY’RE BACKS ON MV7 AND LOOK AT HIM NOW HE IS IN PHILLY LOOKING DOWN ON ATL AND LAUGHING HIM SELF DIZZY HAVING AN SURE LOCK MVP SEASON HE IS GOING TO BE AN AUTOMATIC LOCK IN CANTON SOME DAY AND MATTY LICE WILL BE LUCKY TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME WHERE MV7 HAS ALREADY PROVED HIMSELF A PLAYOFF WINNER AND MATTY HAS PROVED TO BE A PLAYOFF CHOCKER AND LOOSER ATL SHOULD BE SO LUCKY TO TRY AND SIGN MV7 WHEN HE IS A FREE AGENT AFTER THIS YEAR IF HE CHOOSES TO LEAVE REID AND PHILLY WHERE THEY HAVE WELCOMED HIM WITH OPEN ARMS WITH A HEROS WELCOME AND ATL JUST SHOWED HIM THE DOOR AFTER SELLING OUT THE DOME FOR 5 YEARS AND ALL MATTY LICE HAS DONE IS HAVE HIS LOVER AUTHER BLANK USE GIMMICKS TO FILL THE STADIUM LIKE FREE MATTY RYAN LICE DAY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN YOU WAIT AND SEE FOR YOUNSELF WHEN MV7 WILL COME TO THE DOME AND DESTORY THE SORRY FALCONS IN THE NFC CHAMPION SHIP GAME YOU BET I WILL BE THERE AND THAT DOME WILL GO CRAZY FOR MV7 LEADING THE CITY OF PHILLY TO THE PROMISE LAND WHILE MATTY LICE CHOKES IT AWAY FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROLL SISSY BOY

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“We don’t convict people because we think they might be thinking about robbing a bank” – but we don’t simply declare someone innocent of a dozen other crimes because we don’t have enough evidence to decide if they actually did rob the bank.

I’m OK with giving Cam a pass on the pay for play issue unless/until it is proven that his family received money from Auburn, but that doesn’t mean that he also gets a pass on all of the other legal issues. Newton is the best athlete among the contenders, but he has more “integrity” related problems than all of the other candidates combined. Weighing the two factors together, Newton isn’t in the Top 3 for the trophy.

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Jeff: You can’t be that dumb.

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WOW!!
So now morality does not matter…. Or more succinctly, the way we judge morality. Lying, cheating and stealing are pretty much against the world renown cornerstones of morality (truth and honesty) in my opinion. And yeah, I’ve never stolen a laptop (or anything else that did not belong to me) and I never cheated on a test or paper.
Warrick Dunn?!?!? Really?? If I’m reading your column correctly, Dunn says something to the effect of, if he’d paid the agent back it would have gone away. UNBELIEVABLE. So it’s OK if you have enough money to make the problem go away or don’t get caught. (Nice life lesson.)
C’Mon, MAN! This is getting crazier by the column. Did the Heisman committee dispatch AJC writers to effect damage control??? Because from where I’m sitting, y’all are missing the mark badly.
Thanks, Jeff. I am really disappointed in all of you on this one. I think all of you should have sat this one out, because if/when it goes down, you are going to look pretty sad. Oh wait, it might not go down because Cammie will have mucho dinero next year and will be able to pay everyone to keep their mouths shut. NICE.

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[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by ajc sports editor, Warrick Dunn, … , David D Mobley Jr, Jeff Schultz and others. Jeff Schultz said: Newton deserves Heisman, and Dunn has a word for critics http://bit.ly/h8ZX42 [...]

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Jeff:

Its my fault. I was the one who decide to read this article. I find it amazing how many sportscasters and writers now act like Cameron Newton is Mother Teresa.

Listen, just because the NCAA cleared him doesn’t mean

A. He is innocent
B. They just don’t have enought evidence, yet.

I’m not saying Newton is guilty or not guilty, but the guy clearly has had some character issues in the past. I’m tired of sportscasters and writers now trying to talked down to us listeners and readers like we are children.

Let me ask you Jeff; do you believe O.J. was innocent?? Of course not, everyone knows he was guilty; yet is was found innoncent, right. Now that is a whole another argument.

All I am saying is that while Newton shouldn’t necessarily be bashed right now; I’m not going to praise the kid either.

Funny how Bruce Pearl invites a couple of kids over for a barbecue and lies about it and has been attacked like he raped someone. Where is the forgiveness there??

HMMMM

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For all those dawgs spinning the conspiracy theories. You are right. The world does hate the dawgs. Deal with it or get counseling.

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Look, Falcons Sorry is out of jail and back on the message boards.

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If this had happened at Georgia, Shultz and Bradley would have wanted the school shut down.

Nice for Newton.

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How many dads / moms/ grandparents will be offered big money if there baby comes to this certain school in the next month or so before the ncaa has a chance to change the wording of the rules ?
over/under anyone
every time there is a major recruit that decommits or flip flops in the next little while this will be what comes to the fans mind that lose the recruit .
this is gonna be a fun recruiting year especially if one to the blue chips messes up during an interview with a pretty little reporter and says well the money was just to much .

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@FALCONS SORRY-
Is that even a real language??? You must have gone to school in Clayton county.

@Jeff-
I can see your point if Cam had just one issue, but he is showing a pattern of moral turpitude. What does it say to the aspiring athletes in high school and younger if he is awarded the Heisman? That it’s okay to commit questionable acts, perhaps even break the rules, so long as you are an elite athlete?

Shame on you and anyone else who feels that he should win this award. Yes, its okay to make mistakes, and its okay to turn your life around. But should you still get to be able to perform on this grand stage? NO! It’s just like Michael Vick. I’m very happy he’s turn his life around, but no way should he have ever been allowed to play professional football again. Our morality as a country is just plain sickening. We are sending the message that premiere athletes are above the rules and the law.

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Cam has EARNED the Heisman Trophy with his performance on the field and the respect of many others for his classy behavior during all of this off the field turmoil.

He has also made mistakes and paid for them but they have nothing to do with his performance on the field.

At this point, what I want to know is why is no one writing about how Cam’s academic records from Florida became public knowledge and how releasing those without his consent is illegal and a felony? That’s for more serious than is being acknowledged and I’d like to see those same sportswriters who so zealously wrote about what Cecil Newton MIGHT have done do the same thing about something that was DEFINITELY done.

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NO! It’s just like Michael Vick. I’m very happy he’s turn his life around, but no way should he have ever been allowed to play professional football again

Oh for God’s sake, he was running dawg fighting camps. Big Frickin deal. How many of you have cheated on your wife? Or smoked pot? Or meth? Maybe none of YOU should ever have a chance in life again either. Those thigns are far worse than someone who knocks off a couple of vicious dawgs who are natural born killers. And if you idiots think he would know what his daddy was doing? How many of you wife cheaters have told your son you were cheating on his mother – and I KNOW some of you HAVE. We ALL have a few coworkers who have cheated on their wife. Come on and tell us you told your son. Afterall, you share everything, don’t you? How would your son NOT know you weren’t sleeping around on his mother? I mean he’s got to be either a liar, right?

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Which story was true- the one he told SI that his father made the Auburn decision; or the one he told Fowler that HE alone made the decision to go to Auburn? He just forgot?? Had a Sr moment??

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The Best Player in 2010, No question !

The detractors either wish he was on their team or are simply jealous

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All I’m Saying… Yeah let’s go chase that rabbit. Let’s change the subject- do anything – just let’s stop talking about Cammie- it is becoming a nationwide embarrassment for Auburn University. Oh my.

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Dunn finished his 100th house this year. Can you believe he and his Foundation have Built and Furnashed 100 homes? That is a Great feat for sure. He is not Harpo(spelled backwards) with her power and money, but look what he has done. If he thinks Cam should get it for his work I think I can back DUNN on his choice.

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Y’all have too much time on your hands.

thUGA – get over it.

Cam – Great season. Good luck against the Ducks.

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always a silver lining

December 10th, 2010
3:22 pm
Which story was true- the one he told SI that his father made the Auburn decision; or the one he told Fowler that HE alone made the decision to go to Auburn?

Let’s see. The FIRST story that came out was that Cam said “the money was too much”. NOW all of a sudden the Dawgs have ad-libbed and added two words – “at Auburn” so that it reads “the money was too much at Auburn” just to give the lie more credibility and insinuation against Auburn. NO WHERE have those two words “at Auburn” been reported. NO WHERE! And show us the proof he even said it. Oh? Third party source?

You Losers who are still pimping your 1980 trophy go around and make up crap and now you’re going after Florida. And did we read correct? One of you actually entertained Richt going to Florida? Are you kidding? Like Gators would consider someone as mediocre as Richt? They hire winners with proven championships. Not losers!

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AND BECAUSE DAD HAD HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE WHEN HE TALKED TO THE NCAA, THEY BELIEVED EVERY WORD HE SAID….SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE……AND NOW TONY AND SCULTZIE ARE AS IMPRESSED WITH DAD’S TESTIMONY AS THE NCAA WAS??? AT LEAST INSTEAD OF CAM TELLING A LIE YESTERDAY ON ESPN, HE WOULDN’T ANSWER THE QUESTION….GUESS THATS ENOUGH INTEGRITY TO TAKE HOME A HEISMAN….

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Its worse than that….remember the year UGA won the NC on the back of Herschel……..and they named a damn defensive end from Pittsburgh ????? as Heisman? Because a “Freshman” has never wone the HT? Who remembers his name? What did he accomplish post graduate? Its all a bunch of crap.

Bah Humbug.

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Difference between this and Reggie Bush? It’s called evidence. And to those of you who think he will eventually be found “guilty”: Hold tight to that dream. Organizations like the NCAA are not very likely to a) continue investigating when they’ve rendered judgment and b) overturn their decision later. Tends to make them look (more?) foolish.

Good column, Jeff, but you’ll most definitely be considered a hostile witness by this crowd.

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Vain Jangling
December 10th, 2010
2:57 pm

That’s a good post. GREAT post.

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5150 P.O.A.D

December 10th, 2010
3:26 pm
Dunn finished his 100th house this year. Can you believe he and his Foundation have Built and Furnished 100 homes? That is a Great feat for sure. He is not Harpo(spelled backwards) with her power and money, but look what he has done. If he thinks Cam should get it for his work I think I can back DUNN on his choice.
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I could not agree with you more about Warrick Dunn. I also believe
Mark Emmert is a stand up guy-the real deal–and good for college sports.

I enjoy your humor Jeff.

JBT

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Can you name one “bro” who would ever say anything against another “bro”! It just doesn’t happen…it’s their code.

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I caught that too, Joey. I hate it because I have always been a big Dunn fan. My nephew went to school with him in BR and said he’s always been a class act. I’m a little disappointed.

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Joey posted:
“Oh, so according to Dunn, Bush didn’t do anything wrong, he just handled it all wrong. And we’re supposed to accept his endorsement of Cam?

Thank you.

I, too, thought that was a rather odd rationalization for Schultz to use as a way to exonerate Cam Newton.

Some very twisted thinking in this column.

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Jeff, we disagree sometimes and even talk about it occasionally on your Facebook page, but I’ll say something that I’m not sure I’ve ever said re: a sports topic. An AJC journalist just completely changed my mind re: a hot topic.

Well-written article. Cam Newton for Heisman…

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The Auburn Hillbillies-

Come and listen to a story about a kid named Cam,
A liar and a thief, but Auburn didn’t give a damn
Then one day he got paid to play the game
And out of nowhere the investigators came
NCAA that is, judge and jury, Committee on Infractions

Well the first thing you know Auburn decides to go “all in”
Cheating didn’t matter just as long as we can win
Glendale, Arizona is the place we want to be
So we threw out the rulebook and called ourselves “family”
The Auburn family that is, yes we cam, “lean on me”

Well now it’s time to say goodbye to Cam and all our wins
He’ll play in the NFL with that same sh*t eatin’ grin
How in the world could we have been such fools,
Now we have to pick up the pieces of what’s left of our school

Sanctions that is, reduced scholarships, bowl bans

We’ll be back now y’hear?

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Good thing for Cam, most of the people on here do NOT get a vote in the heisman. Besides, he will get paid alot more money than most on here could dream of making for his talents, WITHOUT getting the heisman. I imagine this isn’t that big of a deal for his career, all things considered.

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I guess the I didn’t know excuse works!!! I didn’t know.

I have said it before and I’ll say it again, this whole thing is about money. How much money would the NCAA lose if it were a TCU v Oregon title game? How many sponsors would jump ship? He wont be guilty until after the season, which will be after everyone makes their money on the game. Cam will be in the NFL next year and won’t be impaired one bit by any NCAA ruling. Chizik will move on to the NFL also, a la Pete Carroll, just before the NCAA wraps up its investigation and he’ll be just fine. The real loser in all this is Auburn. They will be put on probation, lose scholarships, not be able to compete in bowl games, and whatever else the NCAA decides. The fans and university are the real victims of the scum that is the Newton family.

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Joey, great observation there @ 3:36. Kind of like I didn’t know they were Free Shoes thye just said here wear them.

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Auburn has six (6) major probations with the NCAA over the past years. Tied for 2nd with several others. IF they are found guilty of any wrongdoing with all of this Cam Newton mess- they should be given the death penalty. No question.

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Funny to see what ALL these UGA losers have to say, Schultz finally got it right and has obviously done his homework. Nice touch with CLASS ACT Warrick Dunn, that’s exactly why I wear his jersey. Honor, Class & Respect…Cam’s the man and we are fortunate to have him as HE IS THE BEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER THAT HAS EVER LIVED…Lucky to have him and GREAT TO BE AN AUBURN TIGER…Keep crying Georgia, shows your level of classlessness…WAR DAMN EAGLE

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Way too much smoke for there to be NO fire……. Sorry, He is a Great football player, but panic caused him to throw his laptop out the window….. That’s hysterical…. He didn’t have a clue about what his father was doing…. PURE BS….. and Bill Clinton didn’t have sex with that girl either…..

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Lie #1.
Cam the idiot is a theif, that has been proven.. the charges were less than the crime he actually comitted, if he weren’t an athlete, he’s of been in jail where he belongs.. He lied about stealing the laptop, there’s no doubt about that, read the police report. He’s a freaking liar.

Lie #2.
He lied about his school work… he’s a liar, that’s a proven fact.

Now we are supposed to believe he’s not lieing when we know for a fact, a dam fact that his daddy was soliciting money from MSU. Right!

Give this lyeing bozo the trophy when character is part of the voting…then that makes you an idiot.

And to all you Auburn fans… ever wonder why NO ONE else in the nation is defending this loser? The facts are just too strong to overcome, the man is a liar. His record as a human proves he’s a liar. Shame on anyone that votes for this moron.

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Looks to me like Butler is giving the autograph. Just saying.

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When you’re great, they will hate. These posts are comical. All the hate stemming from a bunch of butt hurt SEC fans that watched the most dynamic player in years run all over your pathetic SEC teams. Dawg fans calling out AU for being thugs???? OMG. Half your sorry team is on a work release program.
And Bammer fans… Albert Means. Was he ever declared ineligible after your boosters paid his coach money??? Let me know you need any help looking up that information hypocrites.
There will be no chants of SEC coming from the AU fans when they win the NC. You are simply not worthy of mention.

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Jeff!….You have been the first to point out character issues in the past!…..Why is it that when the general public does so that you are also the first to critisize them!……Heck, you jump all over Richt for allowing inner program issues supposedly slide in “YOUR OPPINION”…….I for one, as many others do,have my doubts that Cam “new nothing”……And what about Bobby Lauders bankthats now being investigated……a known Auburn booster!……..Hmmmmm……and I think you feel the same but now youre taking the stance of “nothings been proven”……maybe nothing ever will be but even still, it smells of fish!…….Now, as for his athletic ability, yes, by far he’s the best college football player in the world this year and deserves the Heisman based on that…….but its my beliefe that the trophy stands for more than just athletic ability….and Cam has’nt exactly been a role model…….I’m not here to bash Auburn, or even Cam really, I’m just saying that I can see why some people take the stance that they are about Cam…….Jus sayin…..

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@Puppet Please

December 10th, 2010
4:00 pm

You will begin your misery in two years. I hope we can review your statements then right after the NCAA wraps up its investigation. This kid has ruined your program for the next decade.

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It goes to the player who played the best WITH INTEGITY!!! There is another award for the best player in college football.

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I just think it would be so freakin funny if he did not win it!

Enough Said!

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Yes, Drew Butler, a hell of a punter got a LOT OF PRACTICE Against AU this yr. when they weren’t getting a boot to the face, We just crushed their face, BOO HOO HOO, UGA…What about the cheap ASS chopblocks against AU players???

At this point you have to say, why go into a battle of wits, with someone as unarmed as UGA fans.

Better luck next yr. You had better hope CAM takes the money NFL 30 Million and runs. I hope he shocks everyone and comes back to defend their National/SEC Title .

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If Zach Mettenburger were to win a future Heisman, what would your stance be Jeff?…….Integrity has something to do with it?….and him winning it would be wrong?

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I’ve got news for you John.. I said AJ should have been kicked off the team, the dumb fool knew selling a jersey was against the rules.

I’ve got more news for all you Auburn fans, if my team isn’t in the hunt, I always pull for another SEC team… I was pulling for Auburn until all this came out.. its just too hard to see a blantant Cheater like Cam succeed.

I think we all know where this headed, it’s going to get ugly for Auburn and I hate that…if you Auburn fans believe Cam is telling the truth then you’re insane.

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I didn’t do anything wrong, ask my attorney.

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Pathetic thUGA fans hoping something comes of this. All the while their program continues to tread water in a pool of mediocrity and insignificance.

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If Cam decides to go to the NFL next year I wouldn’t blame him. Why take the chance of Auburn doing something stupid and being suspended by the NCAA —– AGAIN!

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gt4ever – OJ?? What does OJ have to do with this?

Bug Zapper – I Mettenburger was a candidate in the future – why wouldn’t he be eligible?

BTW – If integrity was so important – how did Tebow not win it 3 years running – other than the super-Christian act surely annoyed the hell out of alot of people.?? Because – it goes to the player who did the most ON THE FIELD! Always has… – well at least for the last 30 years. Don’t know about the 40s and 50s.

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Daddy said to deny everything.

Our relationship is private.

We’re not saying we didn’t do anything wrong.

See if you can find the evidence.

Hahahahahah!

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ARE YOU READY FOR SOME Ga FOOTBALL? AA Buford v Calhoun. Strap it DOWN and HIT SOMEBODY. GHSA on GPTV is Great. The DOME is Great for this Game. The TV coverage is Great. Keep the SHIPs in the DOME.

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Yikes John, the concept is fairly simple. Another perfect example, famous football player getting preferential treatment. How clear do I have to make this….. Jeez…

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AU FAN…OJ Simpson was a decent running back too.

My friend “Karma”, well she’s a little on the bitty side.

Cammie’s time will come.

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and all these UGA fans talking about cheating….. That’s funny, UGA has got to be number 1, second to none with NCAA violations… I mean, Vince was the WORST!

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“OJ Simpson was a decent running back too.”

So who did Cam kill, troglodyte?

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As a beleiver in the Constitution of the United States I have to agree with you, Jeff. Having said that, the NCAA is not a court of law and their mission statement does use the word “integrity” and whether you like it or not his “proven” nefarious activities did occur after he enrolled in an NCAA member institution. Hasn’t that poor little brown bronze guy had his integrity damaged enough by the likes of Reggie and OJ already?

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UGAY fans,

UGAY hasn’t been relevant since 1980. THAT’S THIRTY YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UGAY hasn’t had a Heisman winner in 30 years. Auburn will have TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I can think for myself, therefore I don’t need you or Dunn. Everyone has the right to their opinion. If you don’t like the NCAA rules then get them changed. There’s plenty of cheating that goes on everyday and I feel the NCAA does their best to control college sports. Without them there would be no integrity. The SEC is a hot bed for cheating because they are college football and everyone else is just playing. I feel the majority of college programs don’t cheat, but there are some that will do anything to win. If the investigation shows cheating , I hope the NCAA will punish all involved severly. As for as the Heisman Trophy give it to him. The NCAA can always take it back after he has secured his millions from the NFL.

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My brother, my brother.

This isn’t a court of law.

1) If it were a court of law, there would be a presumption of innocence and a judge instructing a jury: “Hear only these facts, hear only this testimony, ignore all else, ignore common sense if need be — know the only verdict you can render must be BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A REASONABLE DOUBT.”

2) If this were a court of law, there would be Heisman voters hearing the firsthand sworn testimony of witnesses, seeing the confidential documents of NCAA investigators, and watching video of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rodgers and Cam Newton talking to investigators about the investigation.

Let’s not make this bigger than it is.

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“Cam followed his lead.”

Dumbest comment. Ever.

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“and every time Auburn wins, trouble soon appears.”

Yeah, trouble appears for loser teams like UGAY who can’t beat a winning team. LOL
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“enjoy it while you can AU FAN.”

I’ll wave to you from Glendale, loser.

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joe,

Do you need a diaper change?

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give cecil a dollar for me…oh yeah, he’s banned from being around the program…how can you be banned and innocent in the same sentence?

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Jeez, AU fans may be as challenged as UGA fans….. Thanks for the history Cam-tastic….

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Google this…”the Money was just too good” at Auburn”

977 results

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AU FAN “So who did Cam kill, troglodyte?” We don’t know but if he is taking advice from Warrick Dunn then he will be okay if he buries the body deep enough.

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“Google this…”the Money was just too good” at Auburn”

No, dumb @ss, I asked you to post the exact comment from Cam.

Oh, what’s that? That’s right, there isn’t any evidence that Cam ever said that.

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no problem gt4ever…if you want more recent history, look at the last 10 years loser.

is Reuben Houston still running from the U.S. Marshalls?

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no evidence! deny everything! demand some proof!

war cam eagle!

woo woo!

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Your father must’ve offered the AJC megabucks to employ you. Your opinions are worse than garbage. You absolutely crucified Mark Richt but suddnely you are the “let’s forgive a 19 year old’s mistakes”. So academic fraud and obstruction of justice are minor mistakes but unpaid traffic tickets are capital offenses? You lower the IQ in Atlanta everytime you show up to work.

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“no evidence! deny everything! demand some proof!”

Uh, moron, that’s how the US Justice System works. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

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cam to drew…”spell cam for me again?”

drew said, “it’s C…A…M…thanks Cam.”

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Plausable deniability.

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“cecil pimpled his son”

Maybe Cam should ask for a Dermatologist.

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AU Fan: I wish they wouldn’t do it because I always have a blast with Auburn fans, but he is guilty as home-made sin. You know it and the NCAA will find something, even if its not money. They investigaed AJ for a party in Miami and left with a jersey. Y’all will be stripped of any hardware and then given a stiff penalty. Unfortunate fact of the NCAA beast, they make their money and make an example of anyone who perpetrates an infraction.

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Camtastic – I’m fairly certain Auburn fans would happily take the last 5-6 years of AU football over the last 5-6 of UGA football.

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john, what has auburn done in the last 5-6 years?

won a few chick-fil-a bowl games?

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“Accept the fact that you will forever be “the other school” in Alabama. ”

That “other school” owns UGAY, crotchdawg.

Oh, and GT has more national titles than UGAY so I guess your school is that other school in GA.

LOL

“Just to help you since you probably couldn’t do the math on your own.”

That’s a funny assumption coming from a guy who can’t spell.

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C’mon Nate… you can do better than that can’t you?
Simple question for your simple mind. Are you familiar with the Albert Means case?

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Great interview Cam. As Jim Rome said, it doesn’t count as an interview if you don’t actually DO the interview. Never has anyone looked so good, sounded so good and said so little.
The only thing missing was the Eldrick Woods “That’s private”….

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“I appreciate how hard you defend you team, it won’t save you. We know Cam is a liar, that a proven fact. Read the police report about when he stole that laptop. He’s a liar! ”

Oh no, a UGAY fan says that I can’t be saved! LOL

By the way, did you bail out all 11 players at UGA? You know, since your 6-6 team had more players arrested than ANY SCHOOL IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

“I bet you squirm each and everyday since this all came out,”

Not nearly as much as your parents did when you came out of the closet.

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“my dad pimped me”

Your butt must be sore.

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AU FAN NCAA put Auburn on probation 6 times!!!

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AU FAN…so we had a few scooter violations and speeding tickets…of which the CBS announcers are fascinated with…why does vern care so much about an unpaid speeding ticket?

next week, rainey was suspended for an “out the field incident.”

cecil pimps his son, but all we hear about is how great a person Cammie is.

puke

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John: No we wouldn’t. They had a losing record in 2008 and we have a better overall record in those 5 years. We have a 4-1 record against them the last five years and they won’t have anything to show for this year in two more years. So, we UGA fans are very, very content not having Auburn’s last 5 seasons.

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Camtastic – so far they have 2 more undefeated seasons than UGAG.

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“so we had a few scooter violations and speeding tickets”

Along with fighting, drunken tirades, theft………… but please, don’t let a little “fact” get in the way of your hypocrisy.

“why does vern care so much about an unpaid speeding ticket?”

Ask him.

“puke”

Is your middle name.

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Scream, hollar, do what you want.. but no one is buying the Cam lie because it isn’t believeble AU Fan… we don’t hate Auburn, no one is out to get you… its simply the fact that nothing he’s saying is making sense, and you know it.

I’d be sad if I were an Auburn fan, you fans don’t deserve to be punished when it’s some wealthy alumni that has caused this mess.

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who was fighting and who was in drunken tirades? quit making shat up…that was TN players, not UGA.

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“AU FAN 6 times SIx count em”

And that has WHAT to with Auburn 2010?

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JABA Just Auburn Being Auburn!!!!

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if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying! war cam eagle!

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“who was fighting and who was in drunken tirades? quit making shat up…that was TN players, not UGA.”

Two teammates of arrested Georgia football players Dontavius Jackson and Tavarres King are named in the UGA Police Department’s report on the weekend incident.

The report said Jackson, who was arrested on DUI and five other misdemeanor charges, “admitted to having consumed 2 shots while downtown” after initially telling police he had not consumed any alcohol.

http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/07/11/richt-suspends-jackson-king/

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oh yeah…Cam Newton is a young man having fun. If you people were not living in fantasy land you would see that.

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“if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying! ”

Nice Bear Bryant quote.

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“It tells all of us that Auburn has no problem with cheating with regularity.”

Ever heard of rogue boosters, ma’am?

Just ask Bama, they’re currently on probation until next year.

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@ Tell the Truth…tell the truth all the way around buddy and give it a break. Quit pointing fingers!!!! Check yourself!!!

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JABA

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Cam-tastic

But you said that UGAY players never got drunk and arrested. So that makes you a complete moron.

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did you know that Auburn’s legendary coach Pat Dye played at UGA and Georgia’s legendary coach Vince Dooley played at AU?

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i didn’t say they didn’t have alcohol-related arrests.

this just in…college kids drink.

a drunken tirade is not the equivalent of drinking and driving…and following too closely.

i bet it doesn’t happen at auburn because auburn.

even if it did happen at auburn, i bet the the administrators could make it disappear.

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Cam-tastic,

I see school is out for the holidays.Dang you mean we got to hear your crap all day long now?

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i’m a good kid…other than the laptop, the cheating, the lying, and the pimping.

-cam

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I hear you HDIFOHA…. LOL What we are talking about here is a man’s character, what does the character of Cam show, what has he done so far?

He has proven without doubt that he’s a liar, so it’s not a stretch to believe his’s lyeing now.

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UGA will beat Auburn next year.

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You gotta give it to AU Fan, he’s has some dam good one liners..

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“He has proven without doubt that he’s a liar, so it’s not a stretch to believe his’s lyeing now.”

Question: WHY ARE DAWG FANS TERRIBLE WITH SPELLING?

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let’s see here au fan…this is a blog, and i’m not concerned about grammatically correct blogging.

if that’s all you got, they you ain’t got nothin’…(trying to speak au-language so you can understand).

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“he’s has ”

OH MY GOODNESS, DOES THE STUPIDITY EVER STOP WITH DAWG FANS???????????????

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hey daddy, who’s the highest bidder?

dang, i’m going to cry when i have to refuse coach mullen’s offer. wah wah, snif snif.

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AU FAN,

Being you are really a Techie.I saw this posted earlier on the blog just in case you missed it.

So a Techie can spell? Just remember you cant spell Domination without UGA!

1-9 IN LAST 10 AGAINST THE DAWGS!!!

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hey cam,

the chizmaester just called…son, you’re going to auburn!

-cecil

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I certainly agree, Jeff. If the NCAA says he’s eligible to play, he should certainly be eligible for any post-season awards. (Though I do wish he had not changed his story about who decided that he would attend Auburn. That takes a rather “fishy” situation and makes it even fishier.)

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auburn definitely wins the cha-cha award.

chiz chiz and cheat cheat…shush, don’t tell anyone…-cecil

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hey cam…the church needs a new laptop.

shush, don’t tell anyone.

-cecil
-cecil

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AU FAN,

You must have been one of those Techies that actually took classes at Morehouse or Morris-Brown.

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What we are talking about here is a man’s character, what does the character of Cam show, what has he done so far?

From everything I’ve read the kid has turned his life around. Is it SO shocking that a 19 year old kid made a mistake? I was a 19 year old kid once like I’m sure most of us were, and BELIEVE ME I made MANY mistakes. Do I want that held against me the rest of my life? It is truly a crying shame what his Dad did, but should the NCAA be in the business of punishing kids for the actions of others? You can only control what you do on the field, and this kid has special talent. To deny him the right to play the game he loves just isn’t right….

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I clearly have too much time on my hands.

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“you have made my night”

Why, because your boyfriend is out of town?

“the anger you display ”

LOL! How does an illiterate blogger, like yourself, sense that I am angry?

“no other than Auburn fans feel Cam is innocent? ”

And we Auburn fans, don’t give a rats @ss what loser 6-6ers think about us.

“the facts are hard to avoid ”

What facts, troglodyte?

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“You are so predictable! ”

Enjoy Memphis, 6-6er.

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I think he’s one of the greatest players I’ve ever seen HDIFOHA, I really do… I’m telling you, I’m an SEC fan, when UGA is losing, like they usually are lately, I pull for some other SEC team. But the facts are there, Cam’s daddy was asking for money, and Cam suddenly wasn’t going to go to MSU. In one interview he said “it was his daddy’s decision” in the ESPN interview he said it was his.. he’s go to be lieing.. it can’t be both ways.

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I childishly call people names because I have trouble forming coherent thoughts and difficulty articulating intelligent responses.

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Yea AU, you’re “not angry”… LOL

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If only had I gone to college, I would be bright enough to not embarrass the AU grads who actually attended the school.

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It’s official:

Jeff, Kincade and Mr CF Tony B. all on the Auburn payroll to turn out “positive press”…

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I have resorted to arguing with myself. Sad.

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I’d be mad too AU fan, if my team had never won a title because they were always being penalized for cheating. Man, I know why you’re pissed, anyone with eyes can see the writing on the wall man. Yet another title that AU will never win because they are cheaters… sad, it really is.

But then again, who would really want to go to school in Auburn, what a crap hole.

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“I hear Shreveport is real nice during the holidays.”

You should know, UGAY was there last year. LOL

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I’z dumb as crap! WOOF WOOF SIC EM DAWGAS! We’z goned win dus da natioanl champsip in 2008! woof woof

Aubarn is stoopid and be dum! UGA is smart and intlegent. WOOF WOOF.

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Do you think he will have “The Decision” when he goes to the next level? He is a mini-Lebron, hands down the best athlete, but a complete pompous, egomaniacal jerk!! How long do you think until he starts to refer to himself in the third person?

But, he will be the athlete to introduce the Spread offense to the NFL. sCam is an absolute gifted FREAK at QB. Kinda like Ben Rothlesberger though, it doesn’t and won’t excuse his jacka$$ tendencies.

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I waste countless hours hurling my feces on AJC blogs.

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Grew up in metro Atlanta …………………half Dog and half Tech with some Gator thrown in ………….all family members. UGA grad and very ahppy that I am. Yes, 8 IS better than 1.

I recall the Darwin Holt/ Chick Graning incident and later, in church actually met Chick at some FCA meeting. Anyway, the game films showed Holt pummeling and pumeling Graning as they slid out of bounds on the ground after a hard tackle and he kept at it. He kept at it. Don’t tell me about the face mask of the era, being the cause. No sir.

Face mask or not …………………….then, like now, that incident was cheap shot artist at its best. Holt was a thug.

UGA class of 71 & 73

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He used the third person yesterday with Fowler. Not long.

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I cash government checks, when I am not flinging my feces on AJC blogs.

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I actually kind of agree with you here Huffdawg, most likely he had at least some idea of what his father was up to. It’s seems kind of hard to believe he couldn’t know, but it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility. I’m guessing we will know more when the investigation is concluded and all this gets sorted out. They can come back and take it away down the road, but NO ONE can deny what he did on the field this year. I’ve followed the game for a LOOOOONG time, and he is one of the best I have EVER seen PERIOD, that’s not hyperbole.

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JABA!

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“You have so twisted what is right and what is wrong.”

No, that one belongs to Barak Hussein Obama.

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So, paying the price is public humiliation? Good one Jeff.

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Great news for Auburn.

Offensive line prospect Greg Robinson verbally commits to Auburn Tigers

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/12/offensive_line_prospect_greg_r.html

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Thanks blogsecurity, I enjoy his rantings just the same. LOL

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AU FAN,

I mean Roswell Ed you are fooling anyone.You post in the same manner every time,with the same insults and references.You use Obama references all the time just like other insults.

You have been called out once again Techie boy!

1-9-It has a nice ring to it uh?

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Teach Me How To Lutzie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPj68CApLlY&feature=player_embedded

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Gotta go bloggers,

See ya later Techie boy.

1-9

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I agree we have to “prove it” what can we prove?

1) Cam Nweton is a liar, that has been proven.
2) We know his daddy solicited money… that can be proven
3) He suddenly went to Auburn.
4) In one interview he says his daddy decided he should go to Auburn, in the next he said he decided to go to Auburn. (we’ve already established he’s a liar)
5) He says he didn’t know his daddy was asking for money. You’re asking us to believe this when we “know for a fact” the above things said about Cam are true.

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HuffDawg Is Full Of Hot Air The sec rules are very clear about this issue. But Slive chose to ignore the rules. Slive is a slimeball and should be fired.

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How the NCAA’s Own Letter of the Law Clears the Auburn Tigers QB

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/516586-ncaa-regulations-reading-down-to-the-letters-for-the-newton-situation-clear

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Every sportswriter in the South is going to say that Cam should win no matter what. The stuff with his dad aside, what about the other stuff? Does that constitute integrity to you? As for Warrick Dunn, he just needs to keep his mouth shut about Reggie Bush and other matters that he knows nothing about.

“The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.”

“Besides the academic fraud, Newton was arrested in November 2008, after he bought a stolen laptop computer. He also had 12 traffic citations between July 2007 and November 2008, according to Alachua County Clerk of Court online records.”

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/09/cam-newton-is-heisman-candidate-and-center-of-numerous-off-field/

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No hope for AU FAN. She’s definitly got her panties in a wad!

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“he’s been scum up to now.”

I highly doubt Cam Newton cares what an obese inbreed thinks about him.

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“No hope for AU FAN. She’s definitly got her panties in a wad!”

Thanks for being yet another shining example of UGA stupidity. UGA fans can’t spell.

Also, UGA fans are known for wearing red panties.

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“Obama & Michelle would be very proud of you.”

Auburn has about as much in common with Obozo as UGA has with beating UF.

Absolutely nothing.

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I agree Nole, Dunn is one of the most classy men I’ve ever read about, he must simply be ignorant of the goings on with this cam situation… I feel bad for Auburn.

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The moron who blames Obama and the Dems for the mortgage crisis probably thinks Palin will be a good president. Well, she couldn’t be any worse than the guy who got us in this mess– George W. Bush. There are some ignorant people and you are one of them!

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“The moron who blames Obama and the Dems for the mortgage crisis probably thinks Palin will be a good president. ”

Yeah, Obama is doing such a great job! His 9.8% unemployment is just awesome!

Hey, where are all the shovel ready jobs he promised in 08?

“There are some ignorant people and you are one of them!”

No, that would be the idiots who voted for Obama.

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SuperB

If Obama is so awesome, why did he call up Clinton to handle this?

Bill Clinton implores Democrats to back tax deal
Bill Clinton implores Democrats to back tax-cut deal in surprise appearance with Obama

WASHINGTON (AP) — Bill Clinton implored Democrats to back the tax-cut deal that President Barack Obama negotiated with Republicans as the former president made a surprise appearance with Obama in the White House briefing room Friday — and later took over the podium.

“I don’t believe there is a better deal out there,” Clinton told reporters who’d been summoned at a moment’s notice to see the former chief executive back the current one. Clinton and Obama had just finished a private meeting in the Oval Office.

Obama said it was a “terrific meeting” and then yielded to Clinton. The voluble former president took it away, and Obama left part-way through his remarks, saying he had holiday parties to attend. Clinton not only provided an economic tutorial but riffed on several topics, including the need for the Senate to ratify a U.S.-Russia nuclear treaty.

“Both sides are going to have to eat some things they don’t like,” Clinton told reporters about the tax deal. “We don’t want to slip back into a recession. We’ve got to keep this thing going and accelerate its pace. I think this is the best available option.”

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Be proud, knowing that you all are as bad as the Obama government now and the sub prime mortgage scam .

Scam? Perfect same for (S)Cam Newton. Obama & Michelle would be very proud of you.

Didn’t the “sub-prime” mortgage scam occur during the Bush years? Might need to get the fact-checker out on that one, the sub-prime bubble burst before Obama even won the election. I think our nation is struggling financially because of 9/11, two wars, a huge prescription drug giveaway, a huge health care bill, and three rounds of tax cuts. Not a democrat here, just thought I would point out the stupidity of your rant…..

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It’s too bad Cams PIMP DADDY doesn’t even have half the class Warrick Dunn.

That also goes for the lyincheatin PIMP DADDYS son.

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FORMER FLORIDA FOOTBALL PLAYER BRANDON SPIKES SUSPENDED FROM THE PATRIOTS FOR USING STEROIDS.

WHAT WERE DAWG FANS SAYING ABOUT CAM NEWTON?

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Must be Obama’s magic or something

December 10th, 2010
5:46 pm
Our nation is financially struggling because of the US government making home mortgages too easy for anyone to get, even with bad credit and no job history. Folks with shady pasts were ENCOURAGED by our liberal government of Barney Frank, Pelosi and Chris Dodd to do these things at ANY COST and AU is doing the exact same thing to win at any cost. Newton DOES INDEED HAVE a very, very shady past and AU is sweeping it under their rug.

Or are folks like you trying to harp on his past because you have Skeletons In Your OWN closet?

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I’m not a democrat but if you think the economy is all Obama’s fault you are drinking waaaay too much of the Fox News kool-aid……

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I am truly sorry- I assumed that you were a poster with some semblance of the ability to blog without name calling. I won’t make that mistake again.

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I was actually a Republican until Bush came along and destroyed everything the party stood for. I am now an independent thanks to Dubya. Biggest spending, big-government president ever, never met a spending bill he didn’t like….

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“Biggest spending, big-government president ever, never met a spending bill he didn’t like….”

No, that would be one Barak Hussein Obama.

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Surplus when Clinton left office- $127 billion
Deficit when Bush left:$ 1.3 TRILLION dollars with a T!!!

Case Rested…..

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The Univ of FL cheating stories are based on a SINGLE source, and would have one believe that Cam paid another student to write a paper for a class that Cam and the student were in together, but the other student was so stupid he didn’t have paper for himself, so he told the prof he wrote Cam’s paper! HUH? Thayer Evans will have an opportunity to discuss his single source soon. He is going to be sued after the season is over.

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One Of The More Ignorant Posts You Will Ever Read

Are you regretting having voted for Obama?

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I’m not a Heisman voter, nor an NFL owner (surprise). If I were going to invest many millions of dollars on a rookie QB, I would go with Andrew Luck.

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Please bet me that anyone will get sued by the Newton family or Auburn. PLEASE!

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11 Uga players arrested? THAT has anything to do with this? Ok fine, don’t give any of them a prestigious award.

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You DO realize that being a registered republican never actually forced you to vote for every single republican that was running for public office, right? You always had the right to vote for any cadidate that represented your views. You thought Bush was not consertative enough, (I’m assuming thats what you meant) so your answer was to Declare your independance to vote for members of the other much more liberal party? I’m not sure I’m getting that logic. Sounds like you are not really an “independant,” as much as you are a disgruntle republican with no balls.

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I’m wondering if everyone posting here is reading the same blog…

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I love how the Cam Newton saga can be written off to a 19 year old making a mistake. But when a UGA player gets arrested for shooting off fireworks, the AJC and it’s holier than though columnists go into celebration mode writing column after column after column on the incident, even invoking stupid media creation awards like the “Fullmer” cup.

Once again, the liberal media crowd shows just how truly hypocritical they are.

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Pago Pago Dawg@3:36pm…, the biggest liars, cheats, charlatans, abusers are our white brothers, and it’s well known and documented, but i don’t see people of your ilk condemning them, like you want black people to do to Cam and Cecil Newton! Why is that? Is it because they’re white???? Would you call that the White People’s Code of Conduct?

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I Know! I’m a UGA fan who can’t spell religion. Sorry.

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All of my posts have been on the topic of the Heisman Trophy; voters, why they may decide, whether it is a product of their rational thought or some other reason. I suppose it could be applied to politics and religion, though.

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I’ve said it all year: Shults is Trash. And this article proves it. Yeah, go ahead. Steal! Cheat! We all do it. Great.
Isn’t there some traffic on the connector you can go frolic around in, Shults? I mean, Happy Meal box?

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Najeh Davenpoop – Taken to an extreme, Bernie Maddof may have taken that as a principle for his actions.

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The hypocrisy on the part of Shultz is remarkable on so many levels I won’t bother detailing. Shultz hammers Richt all year blaming him for one-off relatively minor transgressions on the part of 18-21 year olds (the not-so-minor perpetrators were kicked off the team), then ignores the character issues of a serial miscreant. The kid from Stanford should win the Heisman. Do a comparison using ALL the criteria.

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The kid from Stanford is what college athletics is and should be all about. Cam Newton situation is what is wrong with college athletics, particularly football and basketball. Meyer said it was about family, no it is about being tired of dealing with all the crap that goes along with college football, arrests, players threatening to boycott tough practices and drugs.

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It makes you wonder if Cecil had of gotten his $180,000 would Cam be elligible? I doubt it. So if you don’t succeed no punishment, yet. Oh do you think he would have told Cam? If he had of gotten it Slive would have said give SEC half and you can play.

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Three letters for all you Cam suckers. FBI The FBI doesn’t get involved when it’s just rumors..

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Just put a lap top on the Heisman trophey where the football is now and give it to the felon. If he was not a talented football player he would still be in jail. You sportswriters don’t see real life from your ivory towers.

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So this flawed thinking excuses the murderer as well who gets off on a technicality ? Same logic if you ask me.

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I don’t know if he is guilty or innocent and neither do you. However. if his father is guilty of some crime I definitely believe he knew about it. Two people of low morals that are that close would not have any secrets from each other. If his father is guilty then he is guilty. Anyone believing differently is outright naive or stupid –take your pick. And another thing, if you believe that the SEC and the NCAA would pursue this matter right now then you have your head in the sand. There is too much big money that would be lost if a SEC team is not in the NC game. That is why the SEC said it would be up to the team to investigate. The NCAA will not pursue right now because they don’t want a TCU – Oregon matchup. Who would watch but the very hardcore fans. No interest in this matchup. Remember the protection the SEC officials gave Fla and LSU in recent years (Fla-Ark, LSU-GA among others. This league and the NCAA are crooked. Big money rules. Good luck to Cam and his father if they are innocent but if one is guilty then both are guilty.

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Voting for Newton is wrong. Newton & his family have both done things that are morally wrong. He is disqualifed on moral grounds.

At Florida: rumors of theft & cheating–suddenly leaves Florida to go to Junior College?

After Junior College, choose Miss St. verbally, then suddenly changes decision to Auburn, FBI says Dad did ask for money from Miss State?

No brainer.

It’s not about who’s the best athlete, wrong question.

It’s about is it right or wrong.

And it’s wrong to vote for Cam Newton.

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P.S. If Newton’s family is innocent, why has Newton not been answering questions? Why has dad not been to ESPN awards & Heisman awards?

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Hey Schultz,
Since you are the know-all, was that Cecil Newton who kept hugging Cam when he came off the field last Saturday at the SEC Championship game? I thought he was playing a behind-the-curtain role.

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One more time and I’m out of here, Schultz, you should read the comments about the Newton situation on ESPN. They are NOT as forgiving as you and your AJC cohorts. The truth seems to prevail to a greater extent on that media.

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On the Heisman mission statement, in their mission statement, it talks of

pursuit of excellence

WITH INTEGRITY.

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@ Jerry – I guess when they read out the mission statement regarding the integrity issue at the trophy presentation, the announcer will smile and say in a weird voice, “NOT!” The Heisman will never be again what it once was. SAD…and it only cost $180,000.

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Doesn’t deserve the award because of the character issue!

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JABA JABA JABA What say you Aubies???

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At the end of the day, it comes down to whether Cam AND his family broke any NCAA and SEC rules, laws and by-laws. Without a doubt, his father violated a SEC by-law which makes Cam ineligible for any further participation in collegiate sports with any SEC school, whether Cam knew about it or not. Without a doubt. And here it is from another column:

Slive’s statement is an absolute joke, and so is Newton’s restored eligibility. Apologists for both have tried to find some wiggle room in the SEC bylaw that instead makes it clear Newton should never play another down of college football.

That bylaw reads:

“If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference… such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.”

It cannot be more clear cut. Obviously the admitted solicitation of $180K from MS St qualifies as agreeing to receive money. Cam without a doubt should be ineligible.

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Every Au fan, Schultz, etc. Read what Whopper said. If you want to change the rules now…fine. But you must apply the rules as they were written so please STFU. Case closed.

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Duh, Schultz, Read what Whopper Dog said or go read ESPN, where they state the rule all the time. They are much more on top of this than the AJC sports writers. Way more on top…

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Does this paper have any integrity? Is there not one sports writer who will speak the obvious? Are we all just jock sniffers like ESPN?

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@Rod – Aren’t shall and will synonyms??? You are really being silly here.

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Sorry dap01, I thought you were the one doing the comparing. Time to go to bed or back to Cash Cab viewing.

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“I’m having to delete way too many of your comments. Clean it up please.”

You know my comments are funny!

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“I’m so sick of Cam Newton and his wrongdoings”

Then go arrest him.

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Anyone voting for a guy known to be without question lacking integrity, a prerequisite so important, it’s in the mission statement of the Heisman organization, obviously has a values problem, an inability to distinguish between right & wrong.

The only question is:

Did Cam Newton act in a manner that deserves being recognized for his outstandsing integrity?

No he did not.

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When reputable writers at both Fox Sports & the NY Times, BOTH report Newton cheated academically, 3 times at Florida, 1 his freshman year, twice his sophmore year, you are talking about a deeply flawed character here.

Add the laptop incident, where Cam’s side of the story of buying a laptop from a guy in a van, then throwing it out the window in a panic, begs research.

Add the ESPN interview where Cam CLAIMS he has NEVER spoken to his own Dad about the biggest story in college football: Did his Dad try to get $$ for him to play for a school?

Never. Not 1 conversation? Really? The #1 sotry in college football for weeks.

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For some reason, when you think of “integrity”, things like candor, honesty, and incorruptability come to mind.

Candor? Won’t answer questions in a straightforward manner

Honest? ny time s says cheated 3 times academically

Incorruptable? Most think Dad tried to get $180,000 in exchange for Cam’s play.

Integrity? No, no, no.

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NY TIME S reported that $50,000 was needed for church repairs. Repairs were made. Church has not revealed where money came.

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NY TIME S reported that $50,000 was needed for church repairs. Repairs were made. Church has not revealed where money came.

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That’s just the beginning…but they are being extra careful with that…as soon as Cam goes to the NFL and signs and gets money it’ll all be for nothing b/c then he’ll actually have a lot more money legally…

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Well, here’s another opinion:
“Cam Newton is the best player in college football. I just couldn’t vote for him to win the Heisman. This isn’t some sort of protest vote. I’m not trying to make a statement about crooked parents or shady boosters or NCAA loopholes or cockamamie explanations or inexplicable exonerations. The reason I left the Auburn quarterback off my Heisman Trophy ballot is much simpler than that. Four of the five Oklahoman writers with Heisman votes chose Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton, above, but Jenni Carlson decided against it after reading through the Heisman voting rules and NCAA bylaws. Why Cameron Newton will win the Heisman without my vote I’m not sure he’s eligible to win the award. On a night when Newton is sure to make several trips onto the stage at the College Football Awards Show, the trophies he wins tonight will be a precursor to Saturday night’s coronation. Oh, I have no doubt that Newton will win the Heisman. He’s a cinch, a shoo-in, a sure thing. And I had every intention of voting for him when I sat down at my computer Monday afternoon to fill out my ballot. I always like to take one last look at the candidates before voting, but Newton was a for sure No. 1. He not only threw for 28 touchdowns but also ran for 20 more, and he did it playing in the toughest conference in the land. The only question I needed to answer was who else was going on my ballot. Oregon running back LaMichael James? Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck? Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon? Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore? After poring over statistics and weighing my options, I finally decided how to vote: 1. Newton, 2. Luck, 3. Blackmon. I typed in their names and their schools. I checked the spelling. All I needed to do was enter my e-mail address so a confirmation letter could be sent my way, then hit the “Submit My Vote” button. But I happened to glance at the top of the ballot and the bold words “Rules Governing the Vote” caught my eye. I started reading.

“In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bona fide student of an accredited college or university including the United States Academies. The recipient must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA Student-Athlete.”

An alarm went off in my head. Compliance with the bylaws? According to bylaw 12.3.3., NCAA rules do not allow individuals or entities to represent a prospective student-athlete for compensation to a school for an athletic scholarship. Those words come directly from an NCAA press release, an edict issued a week ago addressing Newton’s eligibility. It went on to say that, “According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athlete’s father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newton’s commitment to attend college and play football.” To me, that sounds like a violation of the bylaws. To me, that means Newton isn’t in compliance and isn’t eligible to win the Heisman. Yes, I recognize the NCAA has declared Newton eligible, but it has also said that reinstatement often concludes before an investigation is closed. This thing ain’t over. But regardless of what may happen with Newton down the road — it may be hard to believe, but I gave no thought to Reggie Bush’s vacated Heisman — I didn’t decide to leave him off my ballot because of future considerations. I left him off because the Heisman rules say that recipients must be in compliance with NCAA bylaws, and in the NCAA’s own press release, it said bylaw 12.3.3 had been violated in the Newton case. I went back to my ballot and started hitting the delete button. The ballot that I submitted: 1. Luck, 2. Blackmon, 3. Moore. Newton will win the Heisman without me.
I just had to vote my conscience.”

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Jeff – send a copy of your article to Mark Bradley.
He needs a reminder about all this. He has besmirched the already fairly low standards of his profession over the last several weeks and needs a splash of water in his face. Cold water…very cold water.
But I will say to Mr. Dunn: you are PRESUMED innocent until FOUND guilty.

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As Jeff pointed out, the thing that catches my attention the most, (and I have mentioned this in other pages) is that the commissioner states that the SEC is going to be closing the “loophole”. That would indicate to me that their is going to be new language that would have changed the results of his playing those last few ballgames.

I would also be willing to bet that when the NCAA revises thier rules on this, it will NOT be in favor of having a grater burden of proof of intent. It will be more iron clad.

If this had happened back in the summer, the AU fans would have been looking forward to the second game of the year when he was reinstated after sitting out the opener for recruiting violations. And everybody could have feigned thier indignation, how the NCCAA needs to be more subjective, how unfair it is to punish a school for something a player’s Dad did, yes a rule WAS broken, but he said this and that, and no money “actually” exchanged, but, but, but………and the NCAA would have been quite unmoved by any of it.

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I’m the one that said, and I quote me, “Anything worth having is a thing worth cheating for.”

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Good article, Jeff. The Newton critics are mainly those pups that left Auburn with their tails between their legs: “Newton, Fairley, wah, wah, wah.” It is a shame that more athletes don’t put their money to good use like Dunn. You could build a number of houses for the price of a fur-lined Bentley. We will see which direction Newton takes. He may even return for another year at Auburn.

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“Newton deserves nothing. ”

Gotta love hypocritical people who chant “DIE DIE DIE” and yet they have their own skeletons hiding in the closet.

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There is a little law on the books that does convict person’s for “thinking about robbing a bank” and/or planning to rob a bank, it’s called CONNSPIRACY!!! Ever heard of that one???

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“it’s called CONNSPIRACY!!! ”

It’s called SPELL CHECK!!!

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I think he deserves the Heisman, but I ‘m having a real hard time believing he did’nt know what his father was up to.

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dunn got free shoes while at fsu so he knows the drill.

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Yes indeed, dunn did go to”free shoe u”.

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Alabama still gets my vote as college football’s most consistently dirty program.

If I were king of the NCAA, I would not only saturate Alabama with investigators, I would set up a branch office in Tuscaloosa.
In Alabama, cheating is as much a part of the football lore as the houndstooth hat worn by Bear Bryant and that purty dress worn by Mike DuBose’s secretary.

Alabama has seen it all over the last 20 years. Shady loans. Athletes illicitly accepting cash payments from agents and boosters. Multiple probations. Postseason bans. Scholarship reductions. Lack of institutional control. You name it, the Crimson Tide has done it.

Welcome to Alabama, where the NCAA probations are nearly as prevalent as national championships. Actually, in the last decade, Alabama has recorded more NCAA probations (three) than it has national titles (one).

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so using PED’s isn’t cheating, right?…..the cam affair is just another symptom of the f’d up sports culture of our society…..i heard it in a song once……”the crumbling difference between wrong and right”
have a nice day…..

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More evidence to convince me that colleges have no business in the business of professional sports.
NFL should establish minor leagues to develop their talent.

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“AU family …………………….BE PROUD ………….. you all have a sub prime player and a sub prime coach. Obama would be proud because you are looking the other way. ”

Sucks to be a whiny little crybaby dawg fan.

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“This Scam / Victoryland Dog Track episode will forever taint y’all like SMU in the 80s was tainted and has been to this day.”

Guess that UGA degree didn’t come with common sense. Auburn won’t get probation because Auburn hasn’t been investigated for any wrongdoing.

Also, once again, dawg fans fail to know what the NCAA death penalty is. The NCAA death penalty has only been given out once to a football program. To receive the death penalty, a school has to be on probation and VIOLATE that probation.

The only team that could get the death penalty is Alabama BECAUSE they are on probation RIGHT NOW.

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“You seem to show moral outrage over little things Georgia players do, and you seem to show no outrage when it’s Cam Newton.”

UGA had 11 players arrested in one season. Cam Newton didn’t do anything wrong at Auburn. He did some stupid things at UF but like everyone, he gets a second chance and so far has done an outstanding job staying out of trouble.

You should worry about your own losing program.

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I have a big fat belly and live with my mommy.

All I want for Christmas is some freshly squeezed Cammie Cam juice

and I love Robert Gibbs

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I also love posting old stories about UGA and ALA that happened 10 years ago.

Better go, mommy needs me to help her get dressed.

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These quasi fed gov agencies were over seen by a DEMOCRATIC HOUSE and SENATE not Bush. Oor president is not the Wizard Of OZ ……………..he only signs bill and the House initiates them. The US HOUSE ( AU) controlled all of it or did not control it all. See??

Chris Dodd and Barny Frank refused to allow ANY changes that Bush envisioned to slow down the dangerous lending practices by the banks on home mortgages. These organizations insured them or guranteed a secondary market would exist for the SCAM NEWTON type of loans to folks like Pastor Newton with a sketchy past.

Perfect metaphor SUB PRIME is …………perfect. Any thing to advance the liberal agenda with folks that are shady or sketchy or UNQUALIFIED which Scam Newton was for college. Cna he play ball? Can Barney Frank blow a horn?? You betcha !!!

AU family ……………….be proud ……………….Obama and Chell would be too !!

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In another thread here, there were three links to reputable news outlets that prove the allegations of Cam Newton cheating at Florida are false.
Apparently nobody over there read the linked stories, so I’m not going to bother posting those links again. Anyway, either Thayer Evans lied when he wrote that story or his claimed “anonymous source” lied to Evans.

Like it or not, Jeff is correct on this one. There will be no “stripping” later. Quoting Lars Anderson, writer for Sports illustrated during a radio interview yesterday: “Sources inside the NCAA tell me that the Cam Newton question is settled. It’s over, dead. People need to move along.”

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The AU family is very proud. Team is 13-0, SEC Champs and headed to the BCS game, Cam Newton to win Heisman, Nick Fairley has won the Lombardi award, Coach Chizik is National Coach of the Year and things have never looked brighter on The Plains.

To those of you hanging on to the delusional hope that something bad will happen to Auburn because of the dealings in Mississippi, here’s some advice from Sports Illustrated writer Lars Anderson on a radio show yesterday: “Sources inside the NCAA tell me that the Cam Newton thing is concluded. It’s over, dead. Period. People need to move on to something else.”

Y’all Dawgs need to worry about why, with four top-ten recruiting classes on your team the best they can do is 6-6. Enjoy Memphis. I hear the B-B-Q there is better than what’s available in Phoenix, though the weather out in the desert is better this time of year. Not nearly so dank and cold, you know.

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The only place ball players are expected to be perfect is at UGA where that sorry Coach Richt is employed. This award should be for off the field actions as well as on the field. No way Newton gets this award until all cleared and if you think he didn’t benefit from any money his daddy got then I’ve got some ocean front property at Stone Mountain for you

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FBI is interested in getting some good seats for the NC game. I suspect that Bobby Lowder or Milton McGregor would love to get them some. Milton? Oh, he contributed a million $ to AU’s basketball arena AND he owns Victoryland dog track and is under a FED indcitment for political bribes. See the FBI.

AU ………………when the FBI says it is over ………………will it be over. NCAA? They lack supoena power. You interview folks with that power ………………….. you will get answers.

AU has become the HQ for Sub Prime players and coaches. It took awhile for the stuff to be exposed with the Democrat’s Sub Prime mess ……………but it still came out.

U of Florida was smart enought og et out of that business when Scam was thrown out.

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I’m betting that the Sanctions will come down this Spring.

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Read Jeff’s last sentence, Dawg Whimperer. It’s the answer to your stupid question.

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The more I think about it the more I’m believing that Myer’s quitting – again – was because he was pee-oohed because he couldn’t keep Newton for the past two years, and the likely two more National Championships Florida would have won. I mean, how big a head would this guy have grown if he could boast of four NCs in six years….nobody would have ever ‘topped’ it.

Why do I think it? First, a coach that would ‘rationalize’ an on-camera,, eye-gouging, with a two quarters ’sitting’ – in the damn Vandy game for God’s sake…along with more rationalizing of a death threat to a player’s former girl-friend (ever wonder why she stopped seeing him in the first place?), along with a series of ‘happenings’ surrounding his players the never seemed to have cost him, the players or the team any real penalties – of consequence anyway. Now you’re trying to tell me that that coach would have allowed the obvious best QB in the country – or on his team for that matter – to get away over a little thing like ‘receipt of stolen merchandise’ – that they managed to keep him from being charged with by the way – and whatever stuff he did that they had long-since excused him for. No way. My bet is that Foley and/or the schools administration said ‘enough is enough’ and forced Urban to ‘let him leave’…I mean they even said he could claim it was because he wasn’t going to get enough playing time – so he decided to play for some JC in Texas instead?

Point being that UM, first, realized that if he had had Cam to ’spell’ Tebow last year, and Cam to play Cam this year, he would very well have won the last two Championships…and the egotistical competitor that he is, can’t get over it.

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“I’m betting that the Sanctions will come down this Spring.”

Have fun losing money.

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For all of you Bama fans out there, Bernie Madoff’s son committed suicide.

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“when the FBI says it is over”

The FBI isn’t investigating Auburn, loser.

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6-6 if that’s the best you can come up with just keep it to yourself. Open your eyes to your own future problems. Your coach knew what Newton was guilty of and he signed him anyway but you AU folks only care about winning at any cost.

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From Bo to Cam, ranking the top Heisman seasons of past 25 years

1. Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma State (1988). To this day, no one has approached Sanders’ staggering 11-game totals: 2,628 rushing yards and 37 touchdowns. Both remain FBS records. The closest running back that year, Indiana’s Anthony Thompson, had 1,546 yards and 26 TDs. Sanders earned 559 first-place votes to runner-up Rodney Peete’s 70.

2. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn (2010). If the season ended today, Newton would break the NCAA record for pass efficiency (188.1). He threw for 2,589 yards, ran for 1,409 and accounted for 49 touchdowns (including one receiving). Newton’s 307.5 total yards per game isn’t significantly higher than Luck’s (290.8), but Newton has accounted for 18 more touchdowns and beaten six ranked opponents compared to one each for Luck and Moore.

3. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida (2007). Production-wise, Tebow’s season holds a slight edge over Newton’s. Tebow accounted for more total yards (321.6) and touchdowns (51) while posting a nearly identical 29-to-6 TD-to-interception ratio (Newton: 28-to-6) and a slightly lower passer rating (178.8). The difference: Tebow led his team to a 9-3 record, not a 13-0 mark, and had a more comparable peer in Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford, that year’s No. 1 passer.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/12/10/best-heisman-seasons/index.html#ixzz17owvZxaT

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That police report is pretty good.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/cam-newton-report?page=4

Cam and the Auburn Nation are all about “DENYING”

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