Gruden to Miami would be manna for starving ACC
If Miami hires Jon Gruden, he would instantly become the biggest personality in the ACC.
Let me start by saying I’m just not convinced Jon Gruden will take the University of Miami coaching job. He probably can have any vacant NFL job he wants and the thought of him hitting the recruiting trail and begging some 18-year-old kid to come to his school just doesn’t register.
But you know what? Every ACC school should help pay Gruden’s salary to get him to Coral Gables.
John Swofford, the conference commissioner, should throw in a log cabin.
Butch Davis should loan him his personal tutor.
The SEC championship is this week. Everybody cares. The ACC championship is this week. Nobody cares.
Do you know why? Coaches.
Yes, the SEC is the annual college football behemoth and the conference title game has been the gateway for the BCS champion in the last four years (Auburn could make it five). But one of the major reasons the conference garners so much attention during the season — and commands astronomical television dollars — are the coaches.
What other conference can throw out Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Bobby Petrino, Mark Richt and Steve Spurrier? Whether you like these guys or not, they are names everybody knows. They are personalities. They are storylines.
Look at even the second tier of “names”: Gene Chizik (who is 12-0), Derek Dooley (likable son of legendary Vince Dooley), Dan Mullen (suddenly one of the hottest coaches on the market), Houston Nutt (sure he orchestrated the spectacular disaster of signing Jeremiah Masoli, but we talk about him).
Quick. Name three ACC coaches other than Paul Johnson. I’ll wait.
Still waiting.
Let’s look at the ACC title matchup: Frank Beamer, a legend, vs. Jimbo Fisher, who replaced a legend (Bobby Bowden). Does either have the personality of Spurrier — or, for that matter, Chizik, who’s been entertaining to watch and listen to during the Cam Newton saga?
Here are your other ACC coaches: Ralph Friedgen, Jim Grobe, Tom O’Brien, Frank Spaziani, David Cutcliffe, Butch Davis, Dabo Swinney and Mike London.
Don’t worry. They wear name tags at the convention every year.
There’s a saying: a rising tide lifts all boats. Look at Miami as the tide. It’s one of the ACC’s centerpiece programs for football. If Miami is good, it draws attention and forces every other team to get better. If Miami hires Gruden, it helps the conference’s visibility and that filters down to other schools, particularly when it comes to media coverage and revenue.
Gruden to Miami? I still doubt it. But it would be the talk of college football — and when’s the last time that happened in the ACC?
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JSS
December 1st, 2010
11:36 am
If he’s goes to UM then he’s the biggest liar since Bob Petrino!
juvenal
December 1st, 2010
11:39 am
2-missed it by that much…….
juvenal
December 1st, 2010
11:40 am
can he recruit?
@DanWeiner
December 1st, 2010
11:41 am
Mike Leach would be a much better hire for Miami. Plenty of NFL guys have gone to the college level and not succeeded. Leach won at a place where it’s very tough to win and had tremendous success. With Miami’s recruiting base Leach would baffle the ACC with his offense.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
11:42 am
There are flashier hires out there; but if they want to win the Florida recruiting wars; here’s the man they need to land. He can also flat out coach… Mario Cristobal
http://www.fiusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=49161&SPID=4780&DB_OEM_ID=11700&ATCLID=727585&Q_SEASON=2010
StraightJacket
December 1st, 2010
11:42 am
Yeah, … and Charlie Weis was gonna take Notre Dame to the promised land.
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
11:42 am
JSS — Yeah, but look at the SEC when it comes to liars (Saban, Miles, Petrino . . .)
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
11:43 am
Juvenal — Yeah, but so close. JSS is fast off the blocks.
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
11:44 am
Dan Weiner — Actually, Leach probably would be a good hire for UM, except that he has fleas and it seems the school wants no part of him.
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
11:45 am
Straightjacket — I never thought Weis would lead Notre Dame to the promised land. And that’s a bad analogy: Weis was never a head coach. Gruden won a Super Bowl.
Rich T
December 1st, 2010
11:48 am
“If Miami hires Jon Gruden, he would instantly become the biggest personality in the ACC.”
Maybe, but Ralph Friedgen would remain the biggest coach … ba-dum-crash!
Henry D.
December 1st, 2010
11:49 am
All Leach did was lock a winey kid in a tool shed, and who hasn’t done that at one point or another?
Bob Didier Slept Here
December 1st, 2010
11:53 am
JS,
What about Chris Peterson? I know he says he is happy in Boise but who could be besides potato farmers and Left and Right Wing Extremists?? I simply do not believe that Boise is CP’s final coaching tour.
SECWasteManagement
December 1st, 2010
11:55 am
Well I got an SBJ right in front on me and the article on the outlook on the collective bargaining agreement that is about to expire looks very grim. The U also has a boatload of cash being private. The tuition for students alone is astronomical.
Bob Didier Slept Here
December 1st, 2010
11:56 am
Oh one last thing JS,
Would love to see you do a piece on how far Rich Rodriguez has fallen off the coaching map. I mean the guy is probably about to be canned at Michigan! Not sure where that guy goes after Ann Arbor!
42-34 - Dawgs STILL Run This State
December 1st, 2010
11:56 am
Gruden is the single best football commentator on TV (now that Madden is off the air). I hope he doesn’t leave ESPN and MNF, God forbid they bring back Tony Corn-holio.
rocket
December 1st, 2010
11:57 am
well, since I have been in London since Sunday …I am guessing that Randy Shannon got the heave-ho from….Donna Shalala? how demoralizing can that be for any man?
Ted M
December 1st, 2010
11:58 am
The ACC needs help… big time. I like your blog Jeff. Jon Gruden would help the ACC.
Booby134
December 1st, 2010
11:59 am
This does nothing to help the ACC if Gruden takes the job, the ACC is not competing with the SEC when it comes to bringing the top recruits.
I think the only way to to change it is to play more games head up against the SEC, not just inter-state rivalryies.
Gordon
December 1st, 2010
12:04 pm
It’s not the coaches, its the fans. The fan interest in the SEC generates that level of coach, not the other way around. It is also what generates stadium size. For the most part, SEC fans are just more passionate about college football than ACC fans. That’s not good or bad, that’s just the way it is.
Booby134
December 1st, 2010
12:04 pm
Oh yeah, I have got to give a thumbs up to Shannon no other school out there would have the guts, to play those brutal schedules he played the last 2 years in a row. Kudos Shannon, you’ll get another shot !
Dawg1
December 1st, 2010
12:06 pm
JS – your right.
StraightJacket
December 1st, 2010
12:06 pm
Wow. Good points, Mr. Schultz. I’ll concede them.
Now, I’ll ALSO concede that Gruden will do wonders (at least, temporarily) for the Miami Hurricane football culture. I think they’ll immediately buy into the “NFL” pedigree, and their fans are more “NFL-like” than college fans anyway. They’ll LOVE the pro-style stuff he takes in there.
However, good for the ACC? Time will tell. Miami fans won’t give him more than about 2 seasons to succeed. Then, there’s always the risk that he’ll want to fly off to another NFL job. Personality? Sure, he’s got one. But just how much is personality gonna matter for the ACC as a whole?
If he wins big, then you’ll have made your point. On the other hand, ANY COACH who wins big at Miami would be the same “manna” for a starving ACC.
Just remember: The manna stopped appearing once the Promised Land was reached.
PGAWife
December 1st, 2010
12:11 pm
Just heard Gruden is there “hammering out” the details of his employment. I like “Chucky”, he has the perfect personality for the U.
carl spackler
December 1st, 2010
12:15 pm
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Urban Meyer is very, very
December 1st, 2010
12:16 pm
afraid of Chucky!
BirdsRsOaring
December 1st, 2010
12:16 pm
sorry Jeff, but Jimbo is going to be a big name coach, and CMR was a good coach, but he has the Bobby syndrome 40 years before bobby got it.
FSU and VT are better than any of the SEC teams not named Auburn…we are right there with Arky, Bama and LSU…What other team not named bama beat florida worse than we did? who cares about the sec…uga sucks..
Alex Smith
December 1st, 2010
12:17 pm
Gruden knows how to groom QBs for the NFL- my college coach, not so much.
carl spackler
December 1st, 2010
12:18 pm
Sorry, I prematurely hit a buttton. These internets are rather complicated. It remains to be seen rather or not Gruden could beat a Paul Johnson coached squad. Afterall, Johnson’s a genius…just ask him.
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
12:19 pm
Bob Didier Slept Here — I wouldn’t think Peterson would stay at Boise, either, but he’s had offers the last 2 years. He’s also got one more year with his quarterback. So who knows?
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
12:20 pm
Ted M — Thanks.
Jeff Schultz
December 1st, 2010
12:22 pm
StraightJacket — Thanks. I dunno. I think Gruden would be given more rope than Shannon. But he’d get everybody excited, that’s for sure … As for manna and Promised Land, let me go check my Torah and I’ll get back to you. What time’s the quiz?
IL Jacket
December 1st, 2010
12:29 pm
Gordon is right. It is the fans that generate the excitement and numbers. The SEC’s generally rural fan base has nothing else going on in their lives, so they channel through their adopted football team.
To The Teebox, please...
December 1st, 2010
12:29 pm
Though forgettable, you left out Dabo Swinney from Clemson. OR maybe you did that on purpose.
Andy in Blairsville
December 1st, 2010
12:29 pm
But you know what? Every ACC school should help pay Gruden’s salary to get him to Coral Gables.
WTF? Then every SEC school should help buy out Richt’s contract so UGA doesn’t go 6-6 next season.
Tim Jaskiewicz
December 1st, 2010
12:31 pm
When Clemson’s Dabo Swinney doesn’t even appear in the “coaches who need a name tag at the convention” grouping, that says a lot.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:34 pm
@ Jeff Schultz…
You know Peterson has North Gwinnett’s Mike Tamburo and that hot shot kid from San Ramon HS Southwick understudying Moore? I think Boise will be OK…
Caniac
December 1st, 2010
12:38 pm
Gruden would be good for the ACC. It would be about as big a splash a school could make that has the by product of helping the conference. Getting canned by Donna Shalala isn’t something to be concerned about afterall she was the Chancellor at Wisconsin, was in Pres. Clinton’s cabinet and has raised nearly $2 billion dollars for the University of Miami…..did you hear that? And she demands excellence in everything. She gave Randy a shot, and a lot of support, and while he improved the program, they couldn’t wait any longer for him to develop and figure out how to get it over the hump. Although, they lost two games they shouldn’t have in Virginia and USF and if Miami wins those two games, none of this transpires. The team improved in a lot ways, but still found ways to lose games rather than win them.
I am sure Shannon ends up a D-Coordinator soon as he is excellent at that. I keep thinking Georgia missed a real opportunity to get a proven DC and recruiter by a year now. Plus Richt knows Randy as they coached against each other when Richt was at FSU and they went on a trip together as Head Coaches to Iraq.
BTW, Miami looked at Leach last time and took a pass – no pun intended – so, there is no way that nutjob ends up at the U.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:38 pm
Oh yeah, I remember all of those crying that Boise would disappear once Dan Hawkins bolted for Boulder too!
tp
December 1st, 2010
12:40 pm
Hey Jeff: Would Mike Mularkey be a dark-horse candidate for the job? Isn’t he from the area, and didn’t he go to school there? I think he’d do a terrific job … though I certainly don’t want the Falcons to lose him.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:43 pm
I am always right! I know things that nobody else does. My foresight is 20/20. Delicious!
IL Jacket
December 1st, 2010
12:43 pm
Caniac, thanks for the insight.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:45 pm
@ Caniac…
Co-sign…
Funny at how people are still making Clinton administration cracks like it is still 1993…
I think Shannon would be smart to take another head coaching job… He needs to learn from his mistake and stop hiring other people’s mistakes (IE Nix)… Quality coordinators and a top flight recruiter who can get him to close the deal is essential for him!
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:45 pm
I bet my life savings on Buster Douglas to knock out Mike Tyson. Delicious!
Steve Spurrier
December 1st, 2010
12:45 pm
Can’t believe you left out Dablow Swindley. I put him on the map!
Chris
December 1st, 2010
12:49 pm
Gruden isn’t going to Miami….He is putting pressure on Dallas and Minnesota to let him know if they are interested. Also, why go to the ACC??? On Jan. 1st, Michigan can fire it’s coach for half what they would have to pay if they fire him now. When that happens, Les Miles will leave Baton Rouge and head north. If I am John Gruden, I would rather take the LSU program and be in the best conference in the land than Miami. OH…LSU will pay alot more that Miami too.
JSS
December 1st, 2010
12:50 pm
@ Jeff Schultz…
“I bet my life savings on Buster Douglas to knock out Mike Tyson. Delicious!”
You got another impostor rolling on here…
Be a man, step out of the shadows!
Hurricane Chuck
December 1st, 2010
12:53 pm
There is no way Gruden will land with the Canes!He is too busy trying to be the Next John Madden of the Broadcast World…………He is The Next Football Broadcast Legend……..In His Own Mind!
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Mike Gundy
December 1st, 2010
12:57 pm
I’m A Man…….I’m Over 40 and I would like a chance to be the Next Ex-Ok State Coach to Make it big in Miami…………Everything Else Is GARBAGE!
JSS
December 1st, 2010
1:01 pm
Enjoy phony poster, your moment in the sun is so fleeting…
George O'Leary
December 1st, 2010
1:02 pm
How about giving me a second chance at the ACC? I’m better than that little ugly midget!
dawgfacedboy
December 1st, 2010
1:04 pm
John Gruden would win a NC in 3 years there if not in 2. He would compete for the NC every year after he wins it. He would be able to recruit any player he wanted in the country. Go play for The U in Miami Florida for Jon Gruden? Where do I sign coach?!?!?! You think Saban is big at Bama?!?!?
Starvin Marvin
December 1st, 2010
1:04 pm
How about Marvin Lewis in Miami………….he most certainly will be looking for a job soon after Team Obliterator(T.O.)finishes will the Bungles and Coach Lewis!
Pistol Pete
December 1st, 2010
1:08 pm
Give Me a couple of years in Seattle and I will be ready to take the Canes over!
dawgfacedboy
December 1st, 2010
1:09 pm
You can look at Chris Peterson 2 ways.
1) Continue to dominate a cupcake schedule and be in the National spotlight every year as the darkhorse for a shot at the title. Not much pressure because of the schedule you play. Have a statue erected of you after you win an insane amount of games.
2) The ego that drives most coaches persuades him to take a big time job for big time money and big time expectations and pressure. Personally I think he will be successful anywhere he goes because I believe he is a very good coach.
I think sooner or later he will choose option 2.
Bug Zapper
December 1st, 2010
1:10 pm
I say he should hold out for the UGA job!…,..lol….
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December 1st, 2010
1:11 pm
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There are no penalties against Auburn or Newton, and no wins are in jeopardy.
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GStateBen
December 1st, 2010
1:14 pm
Jeff, If Gruden is introduced at the U, I’ll let you come run PantherTalk.com for the day.
Never going to happen, he used the Notre dame and USC jobs to leverage more money out of ESPN last year and is doing the same this year. Negoitating power with the 4 letter network is a wonderful thing. Miami cannot afford him. Period.
Spike
December 1st, 2010
1:16 pm
Jeff, you are trying to make something interesting out of something that is certainly not interesting, i.e. ACC football. Nice try. Mr. Collge Football tries, and fails, also. So don’t feel too badly. Yawn.
Rehire Butch
December 1st, 2010
1:16 pm
Butch Davis should bolt from Carolina and PUT HIS NAME BACK IN THE HURRICANE HAT!He Rebuilt the Canes after the Denis Erickson Fiasco and left a Championship Team to Larry “What’s His Name”Coker…..Sure Butch is having Health and NCAA Problems but Sunny Miami might just be the Right Hat Trick!
JB
December 1st, 2010
1:18 pm
Jeff, your kidding….Lack of Big name coach’s. The smartest, greatest football coach on earth is in the ACC…..He’s at Tech…..Never punting…..Crafty passing game he pulls out late to win games…do a little research and visit the flats….OMG, where have you been.. !
The Producer
December 1st, 2010
1:20 pm
The Media would love it. That’s why the ACC needs this deal to happen. Two markee names: Jon Gruden and The University of Miami (The U)……
Blue
December 1st, 2010
1:23 pm
Don’t think he will succeed at college level. He does NOT like young players (known of him in NFL). And not sure he can ratchet down the intensity level enough to not scare the HELL out of most of his players. Man…that scowl…it is EPIC…
Dawg man
December 1st, 2010
1:23 pm
Gruden is too classy for Miami, Richt would fit perfect with all his “All-jail ” recruits. Richt would bring back the “bad-boy” image of Miami
Blue
December 1st, 2010
1:24 pm
PS…his son is a senior in high school next year, Chucky is getting paid by Tampa Bay still as well. I think it will be another year before he will do anything.
GT man
December 1st, 2010
1:26 pm
JB, that was a good one. Two years in a row, he blows a chance to beat ga. Last year it was the deep passes on last series, this year, Allen is running all over ga. and he lets Washington run twice, then pass. Maybe he’ll go to Miami
Spike
December 1st, 2010
1:32 pm
Da U isn’t interested in the smartest coach in the world, CPJ? Wow, imagine that!!
StraightJacket
December 1st, 2010
1:35 pm
Mr. Schultz, my reference to “manna” was a metaphorical leap based on your headline. But it just occurred to me that a H.S. journalism teacher once told me that EDITORS write headlines; NOT reporters / columnists. Sorry if you missed connecting-the-dots, but based on your headline … and your last name …. and your past story about your Mom, I thought I was making sense. Sorry.
Anyway, Miami is a small, private school with barely more than 10,000 undergrads. The sidewalk fanbase IS everywhere, but even the local ones are fickle. Money has been an issue in recent years, as evidenced by their move to the ACC to get basketball dollars, their “average” football facilities for an “elite” program, and the absurd situation they have for a home stadium. And, .. oh yes, … they were paying “bottom dollar” to their football coach until last year. WHY? Lack of money.
Now, all of a sudden, Miami is ROLLING in money and can afford a new football coach? Wow! I guess NEXT week, we’ll be hearing about how they’re going to add an ON-Campus football stadium!
Who knows. …. maybe Miami has their own Boone Pickens or Phil Knight guy that we haven’t heard about and now Shalalalalallla has blank checks she can write.
We’ll see….
Turner is a Douchebag
December 1st, 2010
1:52 pm
y’all can keep that turd. he is too soft and a fraud to be in charge of the U.
Clemson Fan
December 1st, 2010
1:58 pm
Does Dabo Swinney not count as a head coach in the ACC??
Ted Striker
December 1st, 2010
1:58 pm
Gruden going to the ACC would be one way of trumping the SEC. Because none of the SEC head coaches have done squat in the pros.
Lucky Bucky
December 1st, 2010
2:12 pm
Word on the street is Shala is courting Mr. Barry Alvarez to come back to her. .. in Miami
wxwax
December 1st, 2010
2:18 pm
An ACC final between two name schools like FSU and VaTech helps the conference.
That’s a match-up which harkens back to the good old days for the conference and will pique the public’s interest.
As for personalities, please don’t tell me you’re claiming that Saban has a personality? Or Meyer? Both are platitude-spewing automatons with a nasty bent. What they do is win.
Claude Musselman
December 1st, 2010
2:30 pm
I see what you’re saying, Jeff, but should a distinction be made between “good for the ACC” and good for the marketing/PR goals of the folks at ACC headquarters? I really doubt a Clemson fan or Va. Tech fan or FSU fan is thinking, “Man, I hope the ‘Canes get a really good coach. It’ll be tougher on my team, but that’s okay if the image of the conference is elevated.” Journalists are justified in writing about and evaluating a whole product like ACC football, but I think the good-for-the-conference angle is overplayed as a high majority of fans are mainly worried about their team getting theirs.
Nut Job
December 1st, 2010
2:30 pm
While the ACC has lost most of its glamour, I still believe VT vs. FSU is a good match up and I will definitely be watching it (b/c I’m an FSU fan lol)
That being said, the ACC has some of the best games on T.V. Many close games that fun to watch. AS FSU continues to get better, so will the ACC. FSU vs. VT is one of the ACC Championship games the Conference higher ups had in mind when they added teams to the conference. If Florida continues to struggle, FSU will be there to catch all of the talent falling off the ship. As FSU gets better, so will the ACC. If Miami gets a good hire for Head Coach, they will also get better, which will in turn better the ACC even more.
Conferences go through ups and downs like everything else. The ACC will be back. Maybe not to the level of the SEC anytime soon, but it will be back on the map soon enough.
Just remember, (and I hate what ifs but still) had VT not lost to Boise State and James Madison, they would be in the BCS title game over Oregon or Auburn since they were ranked higher at the beginning of the year.
Spike
December 1st, 2010
2:35 pm
Nut job.. Uhhh, the ACC has never had any glamour to lose.
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Sorry Humpers, I got bad news for you: outside of the SEC and Colorado no one knows who Richt is.
December 1st, 2010
2:50 pm
And the only reason they know in Colorado is their sorry coach beat him.
Old Dawg
December 1st, 2010
2:53 pm
I’d really like to see Gruden stay in the broadcast booth. His work is superior to any else, especially his sense of humor and analytical skills. If he’s making decent bank, why hassle with recruiting, babysitting players and bowing to university presidents and drunk boosters?
Nut Job
December 1st, 2010
2:56 pm
Spike
December 1st, 2010
2:35 pm
Nut job.. Uhhh, the ACC has never had any glamour to lose.
I’m pretty sure there was a time where FSU and Miami were top tier teams. I could be mistaken though. VT is pretty tough also. Not near the level of the SEC or Big 12 (10) but still a much better conference several years ago then right now.
Dick Vermeil
December 1st, 2010
3:03 pm
Sorry Guys but Chucky is a NFL guy, through and through. (He’s going to stay in NFL broadcasting for awhile like me then go back to the NFL) He wouldn’t lower himself to go to the “U”. I’m predicting that college football mercenary that We love to hate in Atlanta will take the job. The man that in college football is second only to Lane Kiffin. Bobby Petrino! You heard it here! I win the steak dinner!
No way
December 1st, 2010
3:03 pm
He’s not going to any college. He will sit out another year and go back into pros. Unless JJones can somehow offer him a chest of $’s and get him as a Cowboy.
Jimmy Johnson
December 1st, 2010
3:08 pm
Gruden is too smart to coach for the facelift queen in Dallas; Jones and Gruden would kill each other. I could see Dan Mullen taking the job though, he would dominate the ACC.
Spike
December 1st, 2010
3:10 pm
Nut job, ok I will give you FSU. Miami, not so much, because they did not join the ACC until recently, well after their glory years. But one team, i.e.FSU does not make the ACC glamourus.
loki
December 1st, 2010
3:12 pm
And Bama did what to VT in Atlanta two years ago and they are in what conference.
Jeff Schultz Fan
December 1st, 2010
3:12 pm
Jeff: I don`t see this as being much of a story. I realize that its a slow week until the bowl selections are made; however could you not find something more interesting to Atlanta fans? Maybe a story about how the
SEC and or ACC basketball seasons will play out.
juvenal
December 1st, 2010
3:19 pm
JB, you don’t like your coach, either…fact is, just not a lot of coaches out there, unless some young guns start moving up……..
Commonsense
December 1st, 2010
3:33 pm
The ACC is the laughing stock of college football. The ACC should send the Big East a Christmas gift for keeping them out of the “worst BCS conference of all-time” conversations. Both should be stripped of their automatic BCS bowl bid.
Dick Vermeil
December 1st, 2010
3:34 pm
ESPN NCAAF – Joe Schad: Source says there is “zero” chance that Jon Gruden will accept the Miami coaching job
OH SNAP!
Can We pull this pointless article now?
hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 1st, 2010
3:39 pm
I thought Paul “Moobs” Johnson was the next big thing? Why isn’t anyone throwing the kitchen sink at him? Hmm…….could it be because he sucks a$$ and literally robbed GT? LOL!!!!!
gg
December 1st, 2010
3:40 pm
WRONG! What you’re saying is what they said when FSU and Miami and Va. Tech joined the ACC, and look what happened. Instead of those three teams pulling the ACC up, the ACC pulled them down. So there’s no way one coach will pull an entire conference up! None!
T3
December 1st, 2010
3:45 pm
Back in March 2010, I predicted that
Mike Leach would end up at either Maryland or Miami.
Why Maryland:
Mike Leach is very clsoe personal friends with Kevin Plank, Chairman of UnderArmour Corporation, a Maryland alumnus and former Maryland football player.
Miami:
When Leach left Lubbock, TX he immedaitely went to Key West where he has been for months. Leach is close friends with Donald Trump who strongly recommmend to Miami to hire Leach way back in 2006, instead of promoting Shannon.
Well, here we are, 4 years later, in the post-Shannon era.
Maryland has already agreed to give Ralph Friedgen
one more year at Maryland.
So, its now or never for Miami.
MARK IT DOWN;
Miami will hire Leach…very soon.
Trump is gonna make sure of it this time. Trump has even reportedly sent a written note to the Miami presdient to hire Leach immediately.
Miami Athletics DESPARATELY needs LOTS of money,
and Trump has plenty of it.
If Miami hires Leach, Trump will likely donate tens of millions
of BADLY needed dollars to the Miami Athletics program.
Jon Gruden cant do that for Miami.
So long Gruden.
Hello Mike Leach
wes
December 1st, 2010
3:45 pm
I think it’s pretty obvious by now that the ACC is the Grim Reaper of college football. To the programs, the coaches, the players, etc., it just destroys whatever is perceived as talent.
Hal
December 1st, 2010
3:46 pm
I think oversigning recruits is a bigger reason the SEC is sucessful. A larger fan base in a smaller section of the country with a mild climate helps. Les Miles, Gene whatever his name is and Mark Richt are not names you hear outside the south. It’s the big TV contract the money involved with insuring ESPN hype will get a good return on its investment. That is what has lifted the SEC. That has placed greater distance between it and the ACC not coaches. Football is not quantum physics it just feels that way when you loose.
duffy
December 1st, 2010
3:52 pm
I don’t think Miami is relevent any more. Fan base is terrible and who wants to drive 30 miles to the stadium? Too many other D-1 schools in Florida for the “U” to compete against. The magic is gone, ain’t coming back even if Knute Rockne was the coach. VT and FSU are the powers now in the ACC.
Spike
December 1st, 2010
3:54 pm
Hal.. Something is really wrong when you mention quantum physics and then say “loose” in the same sentence.
Snarky
December 1st, 2010
4:03 pm
Wow, where to start….
The ACC coaches are some of the best and most respected in the business given the facilities and smaller schools they have. Beamer is well-respected and liked and produces year-in and year-out. Jimbo Fisher has done terrific in less than a year and was heavily recruited by Saba, He’s well-known if only for being Bowden’s replacement. Johnson, and O’Brian. Grobe has done wonders for WF until this past season and is widely respected within his profession for being one of the best college football coaches in the NCAA. Check his offer sheet over the past several years. And Butch Davis, although we don’t like a cheater…re:SEC. And if you don’t know Friedgen, being from Atlanta, well you Schulktzie have lost ALL CREDIBILITY with this crap.
No, these ACC don’t have BIG names like the SEC simply because they don’t have the tarnished records of SEC coaches and aren’t scrutinized in the media everyday for being investigated or on proboation (at least one SEC on probation every year since the 1960’s (Hall@uf and Bama and soon to be awbarn). Yep, we need another Kiffin or Petrino or Phat Phil.
Whatever.
Finally, the ACC championship. Yes, true college fans care that two premier teams are playing. One of which dominated the SEC gaturds for many years and did so again last Saturday. Both of which would beat all but maybe one or two of your mighty SEC teams. Take your SEC bias down a notch.
No, the ACC doesn’t need another clown like the SEC to be a big name. We want another well-respected and great coach.
SEC coaches are cheaters (awbarn – chicz-whatever), back-stabbers (Saban), has-beens (Spurrier), wannabees (richt), or just plain scum (petrino) or a nutt case. And dooley? Pulease.
npgator
December 1st, 2010
4:19 pm
This story is spot on!
gdawginkalamazoo
December 1st, 2010
4:36 pm
Sooooo, why did Gruden leave the NFL in the first place? Was it because he got canned for losing too many games?
SECMAN
December 1st, 2010
4:54 pm
He should stay in broadcasting. Alot less headakes.
wxwax
December 1st, 2010
5:26 pm
I earnestly hope Gruden gets a coaching job somewhere.
I’ve come to intensely dislike his on-air persona, a mixture of bravado, macho and bulls*it.
Terrible Truth
December 1st, 2010
5:48 pm
The SEC’s gang of coaches will lose their star power a bit when Nicky “The Bear” Saban returns to Michigan and goes by “NickBo”.
For $6,000,000 a year, by the way.
Jack G
December 1st, 2010
6:00 pm
Jeff
Spot on. the only reason you could name Johnson is because he is local.
juice sourcer
December 1st, 2010
6:18 pm
would be wonderful for the ACC but terrible for Monday night football….he is by far the best color guy they have ever had including Howard.
Mr. Average
December 1st, 2010
6:32 pm
You’re utterly disingenuous; most of the SEC coaches you named fall in the category of Kiffen and Sherrill. ACC coaches are highly respected. Try to hire Grobe, O’brien, Johnson or Davis. I imagine that they are very happy where they are, just like Beamer.
Delbert D.
December 1st, 2010
7:09 pm
Back in 2007, Gruden said he wanted to go to Oregon for 1 year to learn their offense. His wife said he was crazy if he thought they were moving to Oregon for one year as an assistant coach.
acc hokie
December 1st, 2010
7:12 pm
beamer does not need a name tag, the only active coach with 7 years in a row of 10 win seasons
Delbert D.
December 1st, 2010
7:13 pm
“Saban returns to Michigan and goes by “NickBo”.”
Saban coached 2 tours at Mich. St., so that might be an issue. Big Ten (11, 12) fanbases are rabid, too.
BobbyDodd21/20
December 1st, 2010
7:23 pm
This is not a racist statement..U has a racial component that has been a long time in the making and is not going to welcome a white coach, ..Shannon was hired to bring primarily the black talent to the U..but leadership is more than x’s & o’s and I doubt many will be interested in the position..so now the U recruitment program has flopped, (sorta like Hewett sp who’ll be gone likely this year) and I doubt any quality coaches will jump at this opening…coaches are tired of the hip hop in-fighting that many of these rap players bring to the venue…black players and all coaches must have mutual respect…most everybody is tired of the disrespect…
Delbert D.
December 1st, 2010
7:25 pm
Let’s not forget that the Vanderbilt, Indiana and Minnesota jobs are open. Any real man would pick one of those over Miami and Donna Shalalalala.
Delbert D.
December 1st, 2010
7:28 pm
Donna’s career would have really taken off if she had changed her last name to Sha Na Na.
Todd
December 1st, 2010
7:32 pm
The sec is well known because they have won national champs. The sec was talked of the same as the big 10,12 , even the acc with fsu because each conference had multiple winners.
If another conference wins a couple, the sec will take a step back. And obv it will happen eventually.
Yellow Britches
December 1st, 2010
7:34 pm
Jeff, Gosh how time flies. It wasn’t too awfully long ago that FSU and Miami won back to back to back national championships. The ACC may not have been deep but it did have marquee programs. I think the league does have more depth just not much top side glamour. Gruden would help no doubt and he would up the pay ante for every other coach or school in the league. Look, if Stanford can be this good, Georgia Tech can’t use academics as an excuse to be crummy.
Nurse Rachet
December 1st, 2010
7:39 pm
I don’t see Gruden going to Miami.
Mr. Average
December 1st, 2010
7:48 pm
You are in left field my friend. I like and respect Gruden, but the ACC will do fine without him.
CrackDaddy
December 1st, 2010
7:50 pm
If I am not mistaken, Clemson, UNC, FLaState, are all doing well in recruiting for next season. And VaTech will continue to do well. Miami will also get better, as will Boston College and NCState. Maybe UGa would do well to try to hire Gruden.
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Dostoveyskiy
December 1st, 2010
7:58 pm
I really like Johnson and Spurrier. They each march to their own drummer, much as how Nutt does. Tom O’Brien falls into this category as well. Butch Davis gets way too much criticism. He seems to be a good CEO and recruiter. He doesn’t seem to to seek the spotlight. He keeps his mouth shut and goes quietly about his business. I love Jim Grobe. I also have high respect for Beamer. The ACC frankly does not need the Sabans, Petrinos, or Meyers of the world. We’d be proud to have CMR among our ranks, just as we are of Cutliffe.
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Canes U
December 1st, 2010
8:39 pm
When will gruden make the announcement about coming to the U????
Jimmy Johnson
December 1st, 2010
9:17 pm
Snarky you are a dumbass, FSU is behind in the Florida series 33-20-2. Now tell me dumbass how that is domination. Once FSU started playing in a conference, they went back to their losing ways. Snarky you must be a loser to even watch the ACC.
Don
December 1st, 2010
10:00 pm
Why does everyone love Gruden?
He took over a talent rich team in Oakland, and did pretty well with them.
He then took over an even more talented Tampa Bay team put together by Tony Dungy, won a Super Bowl depsite his “genius” offense almost mucking it up, and then proceeded to let the team crumble into the abyss around him.
He’s the Houston Nutt of the NFL.
killerj
December 1st, 2010
10:28 pm
ACC starving? Lets see,how many other conferences have AAU accreditation for most of their members?Tell you what,SEC please take Clemson and will take Vandy on an even trade,Money is definitely not an object for concern in the ACC>.I,m still curious on the Cam Newton verdict,sounds awful fishy to me,more like a skunk,typical of the SEC>
Matt Winkeljohn
December 2nd, 2010
1:09 am
I’m thinking that Jeff has a good point here, but if the powers that be at Miami want to go big-time again in football, they will have to shed their more recent goal of making the school in Coral Gables respectable on other levels.
Shannon was fabulous at improving graduation rates, and APR and all similar metrics while also reducing dramatically the rate of ‘Cane’s appearing on police blotters, but there was an oddly unique dynamic during UM’s glory years between great players and bad people wearing the same uniforms.
That school cannot recruit well consistently without bending rules, or at a minimum relaxing standards.
Too small, not enough money in the athletic department or fan base, not enough enthusiasm, lack of tradition beyond football etc.
Notre Dame has a similarly small class size and therefore alumni base, but there’s a whole lot more money pouring in for many reasons.
Private schools, which I believe UM is, cannot compete on a consistent basis in this day and age — in football, not talking hoops — without compromising standards relative to the rest of their student body admission policies.
Spike
December 2nd, 2010
8:03 am
Da U forget it. Gruden ain’t comin’.. Who is your next choice?
droopydawg
December 2nd, 2010
2:12 pm
London and Spaz were the only two I did not get immediately.
There is a 0% chance of Gruden taking a college coaching gig. SEC coaches arguably put in more time throughout the year than NFL coaches (at least if they do recruiting right) and get paid less. Gruden will coach an NFL team or stay in the booth, there is no other option and this is just more garbage to fill up the non-stop airwaves and articles in this horrible 24-hour news cycle world (Breaking news!!! LeBron is DEFINITELY signing with the Bulls!!).
Still waiting
December 2nd, 2010
4:33 pm
Jeff,
I am still waiting for you – a college and professional sports expert – to name ALL the coaches in the ACC.
Still waiting…. come Jeff, open up that knowledge base and let’s think.
There is a school that is closer than all the other ACC schools except GaTech.. They have beaten the mighty USC cocks more times than they have lost. The mighty mighty SOS finally got to above .500 against this school. Wahoo. That makes him a hero.
SOS won the SECleast in a down year – UT – bad way bad, Vandy – still bad, UK – bad, UGA – average to bad, Florida so overrated and still bad but don’t say it too loud because the SEC might get mad..
But no one, not one sole, dares to claim that the SEC is down. No. It is the massive Spurrier and mighty Gamecocks who are so good.
The name you forgot is William Swinney aka Dabo. He coaches for Clemson and is a helluva guy. Lost to Spurrier this year. Said the Gamecocks were the better team. Looked that way on the field. Congrats to the Coots for beating Clemson twice in a row for first time in 40 years.
Good Lord, the AJC cannot hide its bias.
Big Dawg Cobb
December 7th, 2010
11:11 am
I can barely name 3 ACC teams let alone coaches. smirk