Poll time: Who’s more likely to win division, Dogs or Jackets?

Paul Johnson and Mark Richt still have openings for BCS bowl games. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)

Paul Johnson and Mark Richt still have openings for BCS bowl games. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)

This what the ACC Coastal Division looks like:

Virginia Tech    3-0
Georgia Tech    3-1
Miami               2-1
North Carolina   2-1
Virginia             0-3
Duke                 0-3

This is what the SEC East Division looks like:

South Carolina    2-2
Florida                2-3
Georgia               2-3
Vanderbilt           1-2
Kentucky            1-3
Tennessee          0-3

Both teams have had embarrassing non-conference losses (Tech to Kansas; Georgia to Colorado). Both have had embarrassing moments within their conference (the Jackets gave up six touchdowns to North Carolina State; the Bulldogs started 0-3 in the SEC for the first time in 17 years).

But both are alive in their respective divisions. So we pose the question to you: Who is more likely to win their division and make it to a conference title game, which is the gateway to a BCS bowl game: The Jackets or the Bulldogs?

Which is more likely to win its conference division title?

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Tech, the defending ACC champion, is a 3-1 in the ACC but it’s about to hit the toughest part of the schedule: at Clemson, at Virginia Tech and home against Miami (before a likely win over Duke). The Bulldogs are only 2-3 in the SEC after a two-game winning streak and in most seasons would be dead in the East, but, as the standings illustrate, this isn’t like most seasons. Their remaining conference schedule: at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn.

The Jackets control their own destiny. The Bulldogs still need help (by virtue of losing tiebreakers with South Carolina).

The thing that makes this tricky is, we can’t possibly know what to expect from either team right now. This was Tech coach Paul Johnson Tuesday when I asked him if he felt more certain about his team a year ago at this time than now.

“I think we knew what the strengths of our team were a year ago,” he said. “You had some constants. You knew by this time that No. 8 [wide receiver Demaryius Thomas] was going to make plays. You also knew for the most part that you might have to win in a shootout. This year, I don’t know. The game could be 14-7 or it could be 42-40. It’s not like we’re dominant in any one area. But that’s probably more normal than the other way.”

So who is more likely to win its division: The Jackets or Dogs?

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326 comments Add your comment

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
10:36 pm

Phil Steele, the nation’s most accurate college football predictor, his computer projects Georgia to win SEC East THIS SEASON:

http://www.philsteele.com/miscpages/projectedstandings/2010/10ConfProj.html

Steele’s computer projects Ga Tech to lose 3 more this season and for Miami to win their ACC division.

http://www.philsteele.com/miscpages/projectedstandings/2010/10ConfProj.html

dcbl

October 19th, 2010
10:38 pm

jackets

hope i’m wrong…

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
10:38 pm

Although Phil Steele projects Georgia to win SEC East, and for Ga Tech to lose their division, I’m not so sure.

Jeff, what do you think about Steele’s computer predictions?

http://www.philsteele.com/miscpages/projectedstandings/2010/10ConfProj.html

john

October 19th, 2010
10:40 pm

UGABugKiller

October 19th, 2010
10:41 pm

I hate to say it, but I have to go with the Jackets.

They haven’t dug themselves a hole like we have.

And they also don’t have the extreme lack of discipline off the field that our coach has allowed to fester the last five years.

And why hasn’t it been made more of a big deal (outside of John Kincade) that Mark Richt instituted a zero tolerance policy for scrubs, but someone like Caleb King gets to stay on the team?

He is, again, not sending the correct message. If you’re important, you get slapped on the wrist. If you’re replaceable, you’re gone.

It’s embarrassing.

2BT

October 19th, 2010
10:42 pm

Mutts? Seriously? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

Kentucky, Florida, and Auburn still left!?

Must be a slow night in the AJC Sports dept.

Gravy Train

October 19th, 2010
10:42 pm

Sounds like Johnson is really missing Chan’s recruits. I wonder what it would take for Turkey Neck Johnson to make your hot seat list, Jeff?

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
10:46 pm

Jackets I hope.
Jeff what about the no call on fan interference on the Yankee 1 st homerun tonight? Time to make the fans no closer to the playing field than 5 feet. Let the players play. Stay out of the game FANS.

Gravy Train

October 19th, 2010
10:46 pm

Dropping 3 games down the stretch? Consecutive losses to CMR? Straight bowl blowout losses?

Jacket Backer

October 19th, 2010
10:48 pm

I would probably say Tech but I don’t think either is likely. I do know I’ll be in Death Valley on Saturday and cheering for the Jackets!!

GT12

October 19th, 2010
10:49 pm

dawgs drop the next 3. Jackets by default.

Jeff Schultz

October 19th, 2010
10:51 pm

Six Pack — Predictions are fun (I do them myself) but given things we’ve seen this season I don’t give them any more weight than a good set of darts.

Jeff Schultz

October 19th, 2010
10:52 pm

UGABugKiller — I’m sure that was tough for you. I respect any time a fan can look at things objectively.

Jeff Schultz

October 19th, 2010
10:52 pm

Gravy Train — I think it would take a losing season or two, at least.

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
10:53 pm

Kentucky Burys the dawgs up to their necks and use a John Deere to give the dawgs a good shave.

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
10:55 pm

Dawg House

October 19th, 2010
11:00 pm

Im as die hard Dawg as you get, and as Jacket hater as you get………

but for THIS particular question……

Jackets have the better shot. Luckily for them, and unfortunately for us, the game over Thanksgiving will not effect either divisional standings,

Scrapmania

October 19th, 2010
11:03 pm

Tech? Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!! Big Tech and Johnson. Bahahahahahahahah!!!!!! And last but not least Bif Al. Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

UGABugKiller

October 19th, 2010
11:03 pm

Jeff, I think we can make it interesting. Interesting meaning we beat Kentucky. Florida and Auburn?

We’re NOT beating Auburn. Auburn is the SEC’s last hope (outside of Damien at LSU, the Devil’s Son, hah) for a National Title. They’re not only going to be good the rest of the year, but they’ll have the SEC refs in their back-pocket. Zing!

I’d like to think we could beat Florida, ’cause hey, everyone is doing it. But Richt has shown a pathological inability to beat Florida, even when they’re down (Zook).

I see the Dawgs schedule, and at best, I see a 6-6 finish on the year. Parse it however you’d like.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:05 pm

Ga Tech has to play 2 top 25 teams over th next few conference games–V Tech & Miami. Ga Tech doesn’t have a strong record against either over last few seasons.

Georgia only plays 1 top 25 team in remaining games, Auburn, and has a 4-0 record against them in the last 4.

Rackem Rackbar

October 19th, 2010
11:07 pm

This is a gimmick poll.

picassokat

October 19th, 2010
11:10 pm

You’d naturally think Tech had the best chance with control of its own destiny and they probably do, BUT, knowing the Dogs and how remarkably well they can play as a team once they have hit bottom and the historical fact about Carolina’s annual implosion, like Bobby Cox said after being down 3 games to 1 in the 1996 NLCS vs the Cards “you’ve got to like our chances.” Braves won 14-0 next night.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:11 pm

Oddsmakers have Ga Tech losing to Clemson, and I’m sure Ga Tech won’t be favored against Miami or Va Tech.

http://www.betfirms.com/college-football-odds-georgia-tech-clemson-1019/

Dawg in Columbus

October 19th, 2010
11:12 pm

Sanford Drive

October 19th, 2010
11:13 pm

I cannot tell you how excited I am to watch Tech lose the next 3 games.

has FireManboobsJohnson.com been launched yet??

Or wil they just use THIS website??,…… http://web.nesbitt4heisman.com/nesbitt/index.html

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:15 pm

Richt has a tendancy to go on runs late in the season.

02- won last 6 of 7
03- won last 4 out of 5
04- won last 6 of 7
05- won last 3 of 4
06- won last 3 in a row
07- won last 7 in a row
08- won last 3 of 4
09- won last 4 of 5

Richt’s been money late in the year.

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:15 pm

6PACK you have had a few too many. Tech is 4-2 against Miami. Last was Miami’s first win since 2004. VT you are Tech is 2-4 against VT since 2000.

picassokat

October 19th, 2010
11:16 pm

Of course the monkey on our back is Jacksonville. If we can’t beat the lizards it doesn’t matter.

Dawg House

October 19th, 2010
11:16 pm

How eerily similar does this season look like 2006 for the Dawgs??

They lose some games they shouldn’t have lost, Auburn finds unexpected success……

Georgia gets a little hot, goes TO Auburn while they are a top 5 team…. and beats the SNOT out of them!!!

Here’s hoping!!!!

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Tim Tech Grad 89'

October 19th, 2010
11:18 pm

To Hell With Georgia. Go Jackets!

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:19 pm

Tex beating Yankees 7-3 in the 8th. Go TEXAS get the 3-1 lead in the series.

South Georgia

October 19th, 2010
11:19 pm

Please write about the “Ballyhooed Corrupt System” -BCS. It is broken when two teams called Boise State and TCU are ranked in the top ten and have not and will not play a top ten team. This BCS is the most ridiculous fantasy I have seen!!!

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:20 pm

70% chance Clemson beats Ga Tech.

For Tech to win, Nesbitt has to run for 100+ yards, and Tech has to win the TO battle.

http://accuscore.com/game-forecast-previews/ncaaf/gameid,353/

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:21 pm

70% chance Clemson wins.

Only way Tech wins is if Nesbitt runs for 100+, or Tech wins TO battle.

South Georgia

October 19th, 2010
11:23 pm

Please write about the “Ballyhooed Corrupt System”-BCS. Two teams called Boise State and TCU do not play any top ten teams and they are ranked in the top ten. This “ranking” is the most ridiculous system I have seen!!!

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:25 pm

6Pack Tech is 7-4 against Clemson since 2000 and 6 of the last 7.

TechDan

October 19th, 2010
11:26 pm

SixPack: “Ga Tech has to play 2 top 25 teams over th next few conference games–V Tech & Miami. Ga Tech doesn’t have a strong record against either over last few seasons.”

What? Georgia Tech has dominated Miami since they joined the ACC. Last year was a rare loss.

As for VT, Georgia Tech has gone 2-3 in the last five seasons, including the most recent game. Hardly a poor record, though I admit it’s not great.

I don’t understand you saying that we don’t have a strong record against these teams.

Then we have Clemson. GT has won four in a row, and is 49-24-2 all time.

Interestingly enough, ever since divisional play began in the ACC, every year that GT has beaten UVA, we have also beaten VT. Food for thought.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:28 pm

Georgia should beat Kentucky, usually does when Ealey has a +90 yard game, and wins the TO battle.

South Georgia

October 19th, 2010
11:29 pm

BCS stands for Ballyhooed Corrupt System. Boise State and TCU do not play any top ten teams and the fantasy guys on ESPN think they could beat anybody. Unless you are tested by tough competition, hush and go to the Toilet Bowl. You don’t belong in the discussion!!!

Dawggie

October 19th, 2010
11:30 pm

Tech Dan…….

How has Tech farred against UGA the last 10 years?

Doesn’t pure jealousy and hatred fuel players to play harder??……..

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:33 pm

Dawggie
Did you read the post? It is about if Tech or UGA has the better shot at their division? Tech and UGA head to Head doesn’t enter into the discussion.

augusta jacket

October 19th, 2010
11:35 pm

Six Pack, I don’t agree with a 70% chance that clem wins the game. They do still have Dabo as their coach, who happens to be 0-3 against Johnson/GT. Also, they haven’t beaten anyone worth a darn so far this year. The only common opponent so far is UNC, we all know how that turned out for both. Also, the clem O hasn’t been anything to write home about since the first half of the auburn game. They really played a horrible game offensively against Maryland. The Jackets 3-4 has started to come around in perfect time for the three game stretch that will make Tech’s season.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:35 pm

Ga Tech is 1-1 against both Miami & Va Tech, PJ doesn’t play well against either, and won’t win both games.

Look for Clemson, Miami, and Va Tech to bring 8 in the box, and make Ga Tech pass to beat them. 3 losses for Tech.

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:36 pm

If the dawgs don’t have to shave then why did RUSS have to get his butt painted? The dawg players can get butt ugly but the mascot had to get butt pretty. Not FAIR RICHT.

Dawggie

October 19th, 2010
11:37 pm

5150….

what does P.O.A.D. stand for?

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:38 pm

Clemson’s +4 in TO margin, Ga Tech’s +1, Clemson wins 80% of games where they win the TO margin. Tech fumbles, a LOT.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:40 pm

Ga Tech has lost 10 fumbles, ranked LAST in NCAA in that critical category.

Six Pack

October 19th, 2010
11:41 pm

Clemson’s TO margin is 4x better than Ga Tech’s, and Clemson wins 80% of the games where they win the TO battle.

5150 P.O.A.D.

October 19th, 2010
11:41 pm

6Pack
Miami’s Harris is real good at throwing INTs. VaTech is getting better but Miami is the same. If harris throws 2 INTs the U might win, but if the throws 3 the U loses. Not so worried about Clemson. VT is on the road and tuff for sure. Miami is in Atlanta and I still ain’t worried.