Poll time: Does blown call reaffirm need for replay?

Buster Posey should have been ruled out on this stolen base atttempt (although the call wasn't as obvious as this camera angle would suggest).

Buster Posey should have been ruled out on this stolen base attempt in Game 1 (although the call wasn't as obvious as this camera angle might suggest).

SAN FRANCISCO — We have a little time before the Braves attempt to break out offensively against the San Francisco Giants tonight — can they get three hits? — so let’s address the issue that seems to be burning up blogs and message boards: instant replay.

It’s crazy that baseball doesn’t use it to a greater degree. I addressed this in two blogs back in June when Detroit pitcher Armando Galarraga got jobbed out of a perfect game because umpire Jim Joyce blew an obvious call at first base (which he later admitted).

Here’s the blog on baseball’s stubbornness  following Joyce’s call.

Here’s the blog on commissioner (still!) Bud Selig’s illogical decision to not overturn the call, which would not have affected the outcome of the game and would’ve righted a wrong.

Back to the Braves. Yes, the Giants’ Buster Posey should’ve been called out on a stolen base attempt in the fourth inning of Game 1, and he eventually scored what would be the game’s lone run. But please, no more whining about how the Braves got robbed.

Second baseman Brooks Conrad didn’t argue the call. Manager Bobby Cox didn’t come out to argue (and he argues everything). Cox explained later: “From the dugout, you can’t see anything and I didn’t see a reaction from our infielders.” And after the Braves lost 1-0, it would have been easy for players to point to that play and complain, but to their credit they didn’t.

Here’s why the Braves lost: They didn’t hit. They didn’t field.

Should baseball expand its use of instant replay?

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Actually, the one amusing thing to come out of the latest ReplayGate was the 180 pulled by Giants manager Bruce Bochy. Bochy had been quoted in an ESPN.com story last month about how he was in favor of baseball expanding its use of replay. Quoting: “I just want to get it right. It’s OK to lose a game if the other team beats you. But if you lose a game because a call goes against you, it’s hard to sleep at night.”

So what did Bochy say after the game Thursday night, given replay would’ve gone against his team? This: “In certain cases, [yes]. But no, plays like this, no, I’m not. You keep the game moving. But I talked about balls maybe down the line, maybe a play at the plate. But, no, you start to slow the game down when you start reviewing every play.”

Yeah. Whatever.

So what are your thoughts on replay use? I’ve put up a poll, but, as always, the floor is yours.

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134 comments Add your comment

bob dylan

October 8th, 2010
2:11 pm

Alejandro Alejandro

October 8th, 2010
2:13 pm

over/under for Braves hits in the series 6.5

Ramblinwreck83

October 8th, 2010
2:15 pm

Of course Bochy said he didn’t want it on those plays. You only want replay when it helps your team out not the other. Maybe something will go the braves way especially since nothing like that happens for them.

Hot Phone Sex Princess

October 8th, 2010
2:16 pm

My hat (etc.) is off to the players for not whining. If they had scored twice they would have won the game. Anyone can score twice. Anyone.

Um

October 8th, 2010
2:17 pm

Regardless of the call… Stop swinging at every pitch and make the pitcher work some and this would not even be an issue; we could have won 3-1.

"Chef" Tim Dix

October 8th, 2010
2:20 pm

I was very surprised Bobby didn’t come out of the dug out.

Ted M

October 8th, 2010
2:23 pm

There you are.

Reid Adair

October 8th, 2010
2:25 pm

If Brooks Conrad would have reacted and indicated that Posey was out (which everyone knows he was), I think Bobby Cox would have been out in a heartbeat.

That was absolutely pathetic. It wasn’t even close. Despite what Dennis Eckersley said on TV, it was clear that Buster Posey was out (he even said he was glad they didn’t have instant replay after the game). Eckersley obviously has vision as bad as Paul Emmel does.

I’ll give Posey credit. At least he admits they got it wrong; that shows a lot more class than Bruce Bochy.

stupup74

October 8th, 2010
2:26 pm

Before replay is put in, MLB needs to break the umpires union and fire the incompentent umps first. Then MLB should implement a challenge replay system like the NFL. Give the managers a flag and two or three challenges a game. That would solve alot of this.

Ted M

October 8th, 2010
2:26 pm

sooner or later replay will be use more. Its inevitable… MLB looks kinda stupid dragging their feet.

Jack Fate

October 8th, 2010
2:27 pm

Bochy is pretty full of it, but what do you expect him to say. TBS had a pretty good edit of the play almost instantly. It would have slowed the game down about the same amount of time as a hitter stepping out of the batter’s box.

droopydawg

October 8th, 2010
2:27 pm

I definitely do not think that the league should ever have replay on judgment calls like balls and strikes or checking a swing, but the league absolutely must get calls like this and homer or no homer correct, even if it means stopping the game for a few minutes. It’s not like baseball is a fast paced sport anyway.

droopydawg

October 8th, 2010
2:27 pm

GaCracker

October 8th, 2010
2:28 pm

Just get rid of umpires and use robotic umpires woth electronic eyes. They ALWAYS get calls right with, including balls and strikes (wow a correct strike zone every pitch every ganme)! Save money and use high tech. Umpires are relics!

WDE!!!

October 8th, 2010
2:28 pm

Have to score 1 run to win anyway…

chris

October 8th, 2010
2:28 pm

I don’t mind replay of calling balls hit down the line or ruling on homeruns or fan interference. However if you start using replay for check swings & stolen bases you are taking the human element out of the game which is one of the things that makes baseball great.
Besides…THE STOLEN BASE DID NOT GET US BEAT. THE GROUND BALL THAT WENT UNDER INFANTE’S GLOVE IS WHAT GOT US BEAT. YOU ALSO CANNOT WIN IF YOU DON’T SCORE.

WDE!!!

October 8th, 2010
2:30 pm

How many strikeouts can you have with pitches that are nowhere near the plate? We were one of the most patient teams in the regular season and a couple of times last night I swear that our batters had their minds made up before they saw the pitch

Edmun Schmitt

October 8th, 2010
2:30 pm

If anyone can score twice how come the Gaints didn’t?. Umpiring is just awful from the first spring trainning game to the last out of the year. Baseball fans and players deserve better Fans just have to hope that the umpires screw the other team more than the one for which they are rooting and that’s sad.

Paul Emmel

October 8th, 2010
2:31 pm

I am just glad Hunter Wendlestedt took some heat off of me. Also, Thanks to TBS for not hanging this albatross around my neck.

cattledawg

October 8th, 2010
2:31 pm

Im for replay, but it didnt matter last night. The game could have lasted 57 innings an our Braves wouldnt have scored. I knew when we got the leadoff double an couldnt get him in we were in trouble , but today is a new day. Lets go Braves!

Ted M

October 8th, 2010
2:31 pm

We could’ve scored that 1 run in the 10th or the 11th inning

Ted M

October 8th, 2010
2:33 pm

Jeff do ya think BC will shake up the lineup today?

Ted M

October 8th, 2010
2:34 pm

Jeff – Have you seen Tommy’s eye today?

PMC

October 8th, 2010
2:36 pm

Of course, Baseball umpires are the worst officials in all of sports.

IT’s very simple, have a replay official and give the head umpire a pager. Stop play, and get the call right.

No confering. If it’s too close to call don’t bother. The obvious terrible calls are the ones that need to be reversed by replay.

ATL Girl

October 8th, 2010
2:36 pm

They need to show the Braves an edited film of all the full-count swings they made on what would have been ball 4. That killed us all night.

Office of Roger Goodell

October 8th, 2010
2:37 pm

Replay has worked well in our league. Does slow the game down a bit, but certainly supports the league’s commitment to parity and fairplay. We also dumped leather helmets in favor of composite, and added facemasks.

Mr. Selig, please join the 21st century. Maybe MLB playoffs can pull more than a 1.9 share. Hard to compete against the UAB-UCF game and WWE Smackdown.

Cordially,

Roger

PMC

October 8th, 2010
2:38 pm

Balls and Strikes will not and should never be reviewed. Catches and Tags and boundry calls…. that’s just freaking obvious

vermont 39

October 8th, 2010
2:38 pm

If the game is going to pump in that much $$$ and so much rides on the outcome, then it only stands to reason that the right call be made. We demand perfection from the players; we should get the same from the Umpires

PMC

October 8th, 2010
2:38 pm

They would do better in the NFL if they just had a replay official looking at the play as well.

Chris S

October 8th, 2010
2:39 pm

@chris

Your point would be valid if the Stolen base had been out 1…..but it would’ve been out 3….there’s a HUGE difference in that scenario. Not to mention one horrid call almost always tumbles into a run during the inning.

On a clearly reviewable play, replay NEEDS to be used if it’s close. Would’ve given the MLB another perfect game this year, and would’ve kept momentum away from the giants and given the braves a chance to get to the bullpen last night…..not to mention saved the Marlins from a loss (vs. the Phillies) earlier this year. Umpiring seems to get worse as the seasons go on….and this season was likely one of the worst in recent memory.

vermont 39

October 8th, 2010
2:40 pm

oh and BTW…if you don’t score…you don’t win…DUH!

Bob the Blogger

October 8th, 2010
2:40 pm

Some plays are too close for the eye to see, and when you add angles that won’t allow you to see the play, calls will be missed. Getting it right is the most important thing, so let’s add replays.

I’ll go a step beyond that, and advocate automating balls and strikes. Heyward had a strike called on him that was four inches off the plate. How many times does that happen over the course of the game? At least have a device that notifies the umpire if the ball crosses over home plate. From the umpire’s vantage point, he can’t see home plate, and sometimes can’t see the ball. There are enough arbitrary things in baseball without calling balls strikes, strikes balls, runners who are out, safe, and runners who are safe, out.

Terry Funk

October 8th, 2010
2:42 pm

If we get a lead-off double I say we bunt twice…get the guy to 3rd and then a suicide squeeze……

Don’t want replay would drag out the game too long..

ATL girl is correct Linceome was throwing trash and we were swinging at it….

Armando Perfectgamearaga

October 8th, 2010
2:42 pm

The argument that the game is slowed down further is absurd. We are talking about a game where there is a *stretch break* built into the middle of an inning. There is enough mind-boggling slow tradition and gentlemanly gestures built into the game of baseball that a couple of challenge flags would not hurt.

Bochy should grow a pair and admit that yes, this call should have been reversed with replay. It could have proved just as pivotal as a play at the plate.

I am slowly losing faith in the MLB with this Stone Age logic on why the game should fall victim to its flaws. Take notes, Selig. I guaran-damn-tee you that without replay, we would have a different list of Super Bowl champions and BCS National Champions.

It is absolutely ludicrous that baseball has not increased replay — even if it’s just for the Postseason, which happens to mean EVERYTHING!

Dan Shaw

October 8th, 2010
2:45 pm

What is wrong with getting every call RIGHT?

Chris S

October 8th, 2010
2:47 pm

What’s REALLY slowing the game down is the Red Sox and Yankees. Braves-Giants took 2 hours 30 minutes, it’s impossible to argue that slowing that game down by 5 or 10 minutes would be all that bad.

papadawg

October 8th, 2010
2:48 pm

It don’t matter botu the call, the Braves whiffed at everything and got beat ONE TO FREAKING NOTHING

Rich

October 8th, 2010
2:51 pm

Baseball needs replay and the Braves need a hitting coach, left fielder and center fielder

Bear

October 8th, 2010
2:51 pm

If baseball is worried about instant replay slowing the game down, how about giving the pitcher a play clock to throw the ball.

Tucker T

October 8th, 2010
2:51 pm

They should use it in the playoffs. If nothing else, I certainly hope this umpire never umps a playoff game again after this series.

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Mike

October 8th, 2010
2:54 pm

As fae as the umpire is concerned, he was in the CORRECT position. He can’t stand between the catcher and 2B, the only reason we saw it differently is because we had a different angle; same goes for the checked swing in the Rays game…I umpireand i will tell you that it is not the easiest thing in the world and in my 9 years of experience only people who don’t have the gumption to put on a uni and submit themselves to the pressure complain. Try umpiring even little league and you will have a new found respect for the men and women in “Blue”.

cattledawg

October 8th, 2010
2:56 pm

I think the braves need to play wiffle ball before tonights game and get use to hitting some trash

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SG10

October 8th, 2010
2:59 pm

Jeff,

After all that noise and coverage about the inside borderline pitch to Berkman, I am amazed that you don’t want Braves to talk or let fans complain (or whine as you said) about the call that was out by a lot?

I am convinced that the Braves chances would have gone up considerably if they had taken this game to extra innings when both Lincecum and Giants closer would have been out having pitched already… That’s the only way braves can beat Giants when Lincecum pitches…take it to extra innings, preferably beyond 10..

coachKR

October 8th, 2010
3:00 pm

If Infante had not have went ole’ on the grounder, the Giants would not have scored! Our defense lost that game, not the blown call by the umpire, who was somewhat shielded by Posey’s strange attempt of a slide.

PMC

October 8th, 2010
3:08 pm

Umpiring is hard. It’s tremendously difficult to see everything correctly at speed. This is PRECISELY the reason that we need replay to get the calls right.

dean

October 8th, 2010
3:11 pm

Phone Sex,

Tell that to the best hitting baseball team in the NL; The Reds

Darren Farris

October 8th, 2010
3:14 pm

As soon as bud selig gets through being commish maybe we can get someone in there who cares about the game enough to put instant replay in for the play-offs to begin with.Then see how that goes and put it in the regular season.

wawel78

October 8th, 2010
3:15 pm

Just because you think it’s illogical that Selig didn’t overturn the non-perfect call doesn’t mean it is. Selig made the right call & stuck with his guns.