Meyer shouldn’t hesitate in booting Chris Rainey off Gators

Florida, like other programs, is pointing in the wrong direction off the field, and Urban Meyer needs to kick Chris Rainey off the team.

Florida is among programs pointed in wrong direction off the field, and Urban Meyer needs to kick Chris Rainey out.

(UPDATED: 4 p.m.)

Florida coach Urban Meyer said Wednesday that Chris Rainey is “not with the team,” and when asked to disclose the minimum number of games the wide receiver would miss, he responded: “I can’t do that because I don’t know.”

Question: Does Meyer need to check the Gators’ schedule first to see how long he thinks they can do without one of their starting receivers? Because it seems to me when a football program is accumulating arrests and one player admits to police that he sent a text message to his [ex-]girlfriend with an assumed death threat, reading, “Time to Die Bitch,” the case is fairly cut and dried.

Rainey should be gone.

This is the problem when you put coaches in charge of discipline for matters slightly more serious than being late to practice. They can’t look at one of their players in handcuffs and make an objective decision when a voice in their heads say, “But we have to go to LSU Saturday.”

Rainey, the Gators’ junior slot receiver, has been charged with aggravated stalking, a third-degree felony. According to the Orlando Sentinel, Rainey is “at least the 30th player to face charges or be arrested during coach Urban Meyer’s tenure,” which began in 2005.

This is not the typical driving or underage drinking violation that has become norm in college towns. The Gainesville police report doesn’t paint a pretty picture of Rainey. (Note: Def. stands for defendant, as in Rainey, and Vic. stands for victim, whose name is not disclosed.)

Quoting:

“At 23:10 hours [Monday night], the Def. showed up at the Vic’s residence and continued calling and texting the Vic. The Def. texted back, “I will not open the door.”  The Def. replied, “I’m here and I will bust out the window.”  The Vic. texted back, “I’m calling the cops.” At approximately 23:20 hours, the Vic went outside to talk to the Def. After approximately 10 minutes, the Def. became irate and the Vic. told the Def. to leave. The Vic. went back inside her residence. At approximately 23:47 hours, the Def. texted the Vic, “Don’t go a sleep,” and the Vic. went outside to make sure the Def. was gone. The Def. was gone and at approximately 00:22 hours, the Def. texted the Vic, “Time to Die Bitch u and ur??” At this point, the Vic, fearing for her life and the life of her family called [police].”

When Rainey was told by the women that she was phoning the police, he reportedly responded, “Wait and see what happens when they leave.”

On the weekly SEC coaches  conference call with media members Wednesday, Meyer said of the Rainey matter: “It’s just further evaluation as we go. As for immediacy, he’s not with the team.”

We have taken some shots in this corner for the number of arrests in the Georgia football program. But Florida is right up there. Meyer once bragged that he would recruit “only the top one percent of the one percent.” But gives the 30 arrests, you have to wonder about his grading methods. The reputation of the Gators’ program has been significantly dented.

Meyer’s hesitancy to discipline players also was in evidence last season when he initially balked at disciplining Brandon Spikes for a significant eye-gouging incident against Bulldogs running back Washaun Ealey in a pileup in last year’s game. Meyer ultimately suspended Spikes for only the first half of the Vanderbilt game, but after mounting criticism of the coach and SEC commissioner Mike Slive (who had stood by and done nothing) Spikes decided to suspend himself for the entire game (logic dictates he had a little help in that decision).

The Rainey case is no minor incident. The woman now says she doesn’t want to press charges, but that shouldn’t even be a factor.

What is Meyer’s policy for a player texting a death threat: One-game suspension and extra  laps in practice?

Or does it take an actual physical assault to get kicked off the team?

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519 comments Add your comment

Andy

September 15th, 2010
12:44 pm

well put Jeff

richtfan

September 15th, 2010
12:44 pm

meyer won’t get rid of rainey. he’s too good of a player.

Gumby

September 15th, 2010
12:44 pm

I agree. This is a chance to show as coach what you expect and will not tolerate as the head of a program. I really think that the discipline to rid the team of law breakers, rule breakers, etc is one of the reasons Saban turned around Bama. He brought unwavering disciplne back to a team that had none through several heard coaches. That hard stand appears to be something that both Meyer and Richt lack.

SSIgator

September 15th, 2010
12:46 pm

I agree with you Jeff. He has got to go.

ugahtr

September 15th, 2010
12:46 pm

doggit

September 15th, 2010
12:47 pm

Stay classy UF

put me in coach

September 15th, 2010
12:47 pm

DawginLex

September 15th, 2010
12:49 pm

He will sit out the Vandy game or the next OOC patsy they play. Real games, he will be there.

Jethro Bodeen

September 15th, 2010
12:49 pm

Sonny Drysdale and I never did anything that stupid! Uncle Jed wouldn’t put up with that kind of stuff but it looks like Coach Meyer will allow anything to win a ballgame!!

Andy

September 15th, 2010
12:52 pm

Meyer’s hands are pretty much tied after he botched the Spikes affair last year. If he does anything less than kick Rainey off the team, this story will be a big news topic for weeks and Meyer’s and UF’s reputation will suffer as a result.

Nate the Great

September 15th, 2010
12:55 pm

Thanks Jeff for finally pointing out that undiscplined teams run rampant throughout the SEC. Georgia might have numerous arrests, but how do you think Meyer would have handled the Mettenberger situation with only one other QB at the time?

Dawglasville

September 15th, 2010
12:57 pm

Acts of violence against women can not be tolerated. Booting Mettenberger was the correct thing to do. Booting Rainey would be the correct thing to do as well.

Jeff Schultz

September 15th, 2010
12:59 pm

Thanks Andy.

Jeff Schultz

September 15th, 2010
12:59 pm

Richtfan — Obviously the stature of a player shouldn’t be a factor but often is.

Jeff Schultz

September 15th, 2010
1:00 pm

SSIgator — Thanks (means something extra coming from a Gators fan).

DDPO

September 15th, 2010
1:00 pm

He needs to kick Rainey off of the team. Period.

Jeff Schultz

September 15th, 2010
1:02 pm

Nate the Great, Dawglasville — Good job, recalling the Mettenberger arrest and violence against women. By the way, Urban Meyer has spoken up against violence against women in the past. Let’s see how that plays into this.

Pago Pago Dawg

September 15th, 2010
1:06 pm

Word on the street…..he’ll be benched the first half vs NE Montana State Teachers College.

Daisy Mae

September 15th, 2010
1:06 pm

porno stars on team, stalkers on team….but he wins so no problem.

Jeff

September 15th, 2010
1:07 pm

Schultz — excellent blog with some outstanding facts and details that I haven’t seen anywhere else. This shows that this kid is obviously a thug and a punk who could get violent… as we saw with the college lacrosse player murdered last year, this kind of stuff is very scary and very dangerous. This a-hole should be in jail for a long time… in our society you just DO NOT and CANNOT threaten to take another person’s life.

If Meyer doesn’t cut this kid loose, I will lose what tiny bit of respect I had for him as a coach. Doesn’t matter if you lose a big game because of it… this is life and death and MUCH more important.

And to all those anti-Georgia fans who love to rail about how bad Richt is doing in Athens, I’ll say this… no arrests are good and none should be tolerated, but it’s one thing to be arrested for a non-violent offense (driving w/o a license) and quite another to be arrested for threats, violence or sexual misconduct. I was glad to see Richt boot Mettenberger off the time for his screw-up this spring… let’s hope Urban Meyer chooses integrity over glory and gets rid of a dangerous kid who apparently committed a felony.

Extenuator

September 15th, 2010
1:08 pm

Well, maybe suspend him for the whole game against the next patsy and the first half against the patsy after that. That’ll show him UF really means business. Now if it was just an ordinary student, I’d be for life without parole. But this is the SEC, you know.

DawgMike

September 15th, 2010
1:09 pm

Off the team ASAP !

dawgster

September 15th, 2010
1:11 pm

i will be surprised if Rainey is kicked off the team…but i would hope after Meyer has time to really look into this thing he will do the right thing…On first appearances it would appear that you would have no choice, but then again nothing surprises me in this age of College football…Again, don’t have all the details but based on information, you just can’t allow a player of your football program to show that kind of tendancy toward another human being,.

Alphare

September 15th, 2010
1:13 pm

Jeff, have to disagree with you. I am not sure Rainey is a bad guy based on this single accident. This is a verbal (text) threat without action. What if this is a pure emotional outburst. Can anybody tell me you don’t ever get caught up in your life time? If this guy committed violence before, and now with this verbal threat, I’d take it seriously. Otherwise, I’ll give him 8-game suspension.

SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

September 15th, 2010
1:14 pm

I agree with you Jeff and I would agree with you if it was a UGA player anyone that would do that needs his career to end.
I am gaining ground i only missed three last week in sack shultz , so at least i had something to cheer about.

Just like Richt did with Mettenberger

September 15th, 2010
1:15 pm

Meyer is doing the SAME thing Richt did with Mettenberger. He will kick him off the team in due time he just has to gather all the facts and do his due dilligence to comply with policy to cover any civil action that could come from a haste dismissal. I would hold those stones being thrown until you see Chris Rainey playing a game for UF again.

That’s just the reality of the situation.

Heath

September 15th, 2010
1:15 pm

If he played for Ga Tech (see: Robert Hall) Paul Johnson would keep him on the team for certain. How any Ga Tech fan can cheer for that monster and then call SEC teams a bunch of thugs is beyond me.

17 of 20

September 15th, 2010
1:15 pm

He should be dismissed from the team and his scholarship taken back.

UGABugKiller

September 15th, 2010
1:16 pm

Say what you want about Mark Richt and the arrests at Georgia.

But as of yet, these are not felonies committed by Bulldog players.

By my count, this is the fourth felon belonging to Urban Meyer in 5 years.

One of the felons escaped justice because Meyer pulled an end-around on the justice system and convinced the Gator booster owner of an impound lot not to charge the player with the grand theft auto felony he deserved.

Say what you want about Richt, but 100 misdemeanor driving with a suspended license arrests (in most other towns but Athens, that’s a ticket, btw, and NOT an arrest) can’t even approach the level of even one of the felons on Meyer’s team.

I advocated the immediate firing of Damon Evans. I’ve lost friends to a drunk driver. You do not mess around with DUI.

And you do not, DO NOT, mess around with violence against women or children. Ever.

I’ve often remarked that Meyer doesn’t have a shred of accountability or honor in his body. That he’d sell his mother for a crystal football, and that is why I’d always prefer Richt as my coach.

Well, Urban, now’s a good time to prove me even the slightest bit wrong.

gatorman770

September 15th, 2010
1:18 pm

So shouldn’t the NCAA take the lead and ban players such as Rainey when he or she is kicked off a team, from all future athletic competition, at any level (or should he or she be allowed to go to Auburn, ‘Ole Miss, or another school and be allowed to play)?
What Rainey did was wrong, but what do you expect when the FCC, movie makers, video game makers continue to set examples by including the same kind of talk/threats/actions in their content?

GSU Eagle 91

September 15th, 2010
1:18 pm

Hmmmm. I have a daughter in college….I have to wonder how I would respond, as her Father, when some dirtbag threatens her like this just because he is a “Legend in his own mind.”
Several scenes from “GoodFellas” seem appropriate…

chazzo

September 15th, 2010
1:18 pm

Don’t turn this into a FL/GA thing. It aint. It’s bad, and it’s nationwide. See player sucker punching another player after game. Pros in fights with fans. Women’s soccer for Christ sake. This is a much larger problem. I am quick to defend Richt and whoever else fro players getting popped for traffic violations and college drinking stuff. The violence, however, is far too common and widespread to be ignored and speaks to much bigger problems in our society.

Not so much in Rainey’s defense: What is this kid going to do if you kick him off the team? Is he suddenly going to become a nonviolent guy. No he will become a bigger arsehole. This is not an excuse for his behavior before eveyone jumps down my throat. I am merely pointing out that if we really want the problem diminished (it will never be solved), a football coach cannot do anything. Football is completely irrelevant. The only thing that Urban Meyer can solve here is this guy doesn’t get to play football at UF if he is going to behave like that. Chalk one up for college! I am in total agreement. But, the problem will persist. You have to look at a system that recruits and rewards pituitary cases focused on ripping someone’s head off from second grade forward, growing up with little parenting or neighborhood support, with little educational emphasis, and allowed to get a way with it their whole lives as long as they perform come game time.

Now, everybody jumps my case when I make this argument, but it is true. It is not particular to race, creed, origin, or economic status. We want violent gladiators to win football games for us so we can wear our little logos at the water coolers and talk crap to our friends. We buy in to the system, folks. Ask yourselves, do you really want this to be about college? I do, but I bet that most of you don’t. Judging by the responses I get every time I mention the ridiculous amounts of money dumped into the system, I’d say the vast majority of you want things to be just like they are. the majority of you are just fine as long as we don’t have to hear about it, and your friends can’t razz you about criminals playing at your school. So, don’t be all sanctimonious about the behavior of these athletes. And, don’t think for a second that Rainey’s being removed from the team will solve anything except Rainey not being able to play at UF.

Alphare

September 15th, 2010
1:18 pm

Mettenberger situation is totally different. The guy’s action is horrendous, if it’s purely verbal, believe me, he is still with UGA.

How many times have we heard “I’ll kill that bitch” (at least on TV), but he didn’t really do that once he sees the woman?

SECftw

September 15th, 2010
1:19 pm

Should be out for rest of the season at a minimum. A break from the spotlight and extensive therapy are in Rainey’s best interest. But does the GF’s desire to have the charges dropped open up the possibility for Rainey to have a chance at redemption next season?

Vick=Dog killing thug

September 15th, 2010
1:20 pm

he said bitch

Ummm BugKiller you're wrong

September 15th, 2010
1:21 pm

FACT: There have been multiple felony arrest of UGA players under Richt.

bjohndawg

September 15th, 2010
1:22 pm

This is not a tough call. And if a Dawg does this…..he should be gone as well.
Past tolerance by society has created times where innocence women have been murdered by jealous or controlling boyfriends or ex boyfriends or spouses.

No program should tolerate this behavior. As it is seldom an isolated incident.
I.E. he probably will text her again with an apology, and then a week later get made and threaten her again.

Move him on.

bjohndawg

September 15th, 2010
1:23 pm

meant to say ‘ get mad”.

Blue

September 15th, 2010
1:24 pm

Andy; “Meyer’s and UF’s reputation will suffer as a result.” Yeah, but it won’t suffer as for them getting elite athletes with character issues. Guys will think “hey…dawwwwggg…I can go to UF and now worry about what I do off the field”.

UGABugKiller

September 15th, 2010
1:24 pm

And Jeff,

You didn’t get to the REALLY sick part.

You know, the part where all the wife-beating Gator Fans were calling her cell phone nonstop with threats against her for ruing the Gator football season.

Yep. You left that part of the story out.

THAT’S why, Gator Trash, she doesn’t want to press charges. Because all of your woman-beating fans have been making threats against her.

Must be proud, being Gator Trash.

Glad I’ll never know.

chazzo

September 15th, 2010
1:24 pm

Don’t be so sanctimonious. Everybody wants blood thirsty, rip your head off athletes, and then we expect them all to behave like choir boys. BS.

You just don’t want to hear about it, but it is a system bought and paid for by us. Do you really want to change it? I do. Do you really want this to be about college? I do.

Kicking Rainey off the team may well be the proper thing to do as far as the UF football program is concerned, but it will do nothing for the problem that is nationwide.

That being said: Alphare, don’t even go there. You say those words directly to an individual even if it’s just to scare them, it’s battery. If you are doing anything to scare or intimidate or threaten a person, you are breaking a darn serious set of laws.

Brandon Spikes

September 15th, 2010
1:25 pm

Looking at the schedule, suspension looks good anytime between Sunday Oct 10th and Friday Nov 12th.

GeoffDawg

September 15th, 2010
1:26 pm

I think the post-Tebow shine is starting to come off ole coach Meyer.

UGABugKiller

September 15th, 2010
1:26 pm

Name the felony arrests under Mark Richt. You can’t, because they don’t exist.

Metternberger: misdemeanor.

Thurman: misdemeanors. And he’s the worst offender.

Gotta Go!

September 15th, 2010
1:27 pm

Good read, Jeff. Agree %100. Bad news: after Urb suspended that thug Spikes for 1/2 a game over the “minor” issue of gouging someone’s eyes out, you have to believe that just because Rainey was having an “argument” with his girlfriend (it was a girl, right?), Urb probably is thinking along the lines of Rainey missing the kickoff. Seriously, Rainey needs to go, not only from the team, but to jail. Rainey will end up hurting (or worse) a girlfriend, significant other or spouse before this is all over.

wxwax

September 15th, 2010
1:27 pm

The Brandon Spikes incident was a strong indication that Meyer cares more about winning games than he does anything else, including family.

The man has cultivated a wholesome image of family and priorities and values.

Increasingly, it’s being revealed to be bunkum.

You judge a man by his actions, not his words. And when a man’s actions contradict his words, what you have is a phony.

Meyer is a heck of a football coach and recruiter. But I’m not so sure that he’s a good and honest person. His ambition has perverted his loudly proclaimed values. And that includes neglecting his family.

Really?

September 15th, 2010
1:27 pm

We all know Urban will not do anything to him. Here is an article about two of his players getting arrested earlier this summer and they didn’t even sit out one play.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/28/1795834/two-gators-arrested-for-underage.html

chazzo

September 15th, 2010
1:28 pm

These guys, white or black, rich or poor, are groomed to be vicious and play hard. If a coach only wants to recruit players without those tendencies, he will lose his job, and you will all be whining about how he never recruits four and five star players.

How would you even judge among the 4 and 5 stars which have proper control of the aggressive tendencies necessary to succeed. Of that very few… well there aint many to go around. This is the system that you want, though. You like it this way, remember.

Jeff Schultz

September 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

Alphare — Seriously, you’re going to compare this to “a single accident” and a “pure emotional outburst” based on that police report, which Rainey hasn’t disputed? OK, tell you what. Everybody: If you’ve ever texted, “Time to die Bitch” to a girlfriend, and followed that up with, “Just wait until they [police] leave” please disclose it now. I would like confirmation for Alpha how “unique” this is.

JustAfan

September 15th, 2010
1:30 pm

Ok, clearly everyone here is A “dawg” fan. We can’t be forgetting about how easy they are already going on your prized A.J green. It’s pretty bad when there us this much conversation about a text message, c’mon people they are kids let the kids play!! And as for him being a “thug” that’s just an absolute bone headed comment that would come from a redneck from georgia, because he’s black he’s a thug? Cause it’s surely not where he us from that makes him one! Quit looking for a reason to hate on the gators, y’all should try to be more focused on beating them…or atleast making it worth my while to spend $250 on a ticket