Bulldogs or Jackets — which team worries you more?

It seemed nothing Georgia did could stop Marcus Lattimore. (The State photo)

It seemed nothing Georgia did made a difference against Marcus Lattimore. (The State photo)

Georgia just lost its SEC opener, is already one game down in the East and next must play Arkansas, which has one of the top quarterbacks (Ryan Mallett) and offenses in the nation.

Georgia Tech just lost a non-conference game to Kansas, a seemingly punch-drunk program that was reeling from a defeat against North Dakota State, and doesn’t seem nearly ready for conference play (notwithstanding that the ACC didn’t exactly look like a super power this weekend).

Which team worries you more after Saturday?

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Which program do you feel better about right now? Or worse?

Will Saturday’s losses prove to be aberrations or tone-setters for the season? It’s probably too early to tell, but here are both sides of the arguments for both schools:

Georgia will be fine: Things haven’t exactly been stable off the field in Athens, and that invariably is going to have an effect on the team. But getting into structured game weeks should (in theory) quiet matters. The Dogs lost to a solid South Carolina team that may be Steve Spurrier’s best team since he left Florida. Quarterback Aaron Murray looks like the real deal and he’ll continue to get better, which translates to a more productive offense. Todd Grantham’s 3-4 defense should improve as the season goes on.

Georgia is in trouble: Regardless of A.J. Green’s suspension, Washaun Ealey’s fumble or anything else you care to point to, here was problem No. 1 Saturday: The Dogs got beat physically.  That’s an indication of either size or attitude problem — the latter being more likely. There doesn’t seem to be any consistency with what coach Mark Richt and offensive coordinator Mike Bobo want to do week to week. What is the Dogs’ identity? Barring a win on appeal of Green’s suspension, Georgia will be missing the team’s biggest playmaker against high-scoring Arkansas and at Mississippi State (a game that suddenly doesn’t look like a gimme). As for the defense, notwithstanding the talents of South Carolina’s Marcus Lattimore, there’s a problem with an opposing running back rushes for 182 yards. Either players are still uncomfortable with the 3-4 scheme or there are deficiencies.

Georgia Tech will be fine: The Jackets faced a fired up and desperate opponent, Kansas, that probably wasn’t nearly as bad as it looked the week before. Struggling defensive players will better adapt to the 3-4 scheme as the season goes on. Coach Paul Johnson was upset his vaunted offense produced only three touchdowns — one in the final nine possessions — but that isn’t likely to happen again. Similar to Georgia, the Jackets’ transition to the 3-4 defense should improve as the season goes on.

Georgia Tech is in trouble: This is really two unimpressive performances in a row (even the lopsided win over South Carolina State included obvious shortcomings), and now Tech must travel to North Carolina, where the Tar Heels have been resting for a week. The Jackets’ defense has been extremely soft against the run, particularly in the middle, and the offense is clearly missing wide receiver Demaryius Thomas (now in the NFL), as replacement Stephen Hill has struggled with both route running and holding onto the ball and running routes (notwithstanding his late-game touchdown at Kansas). Despite an emphasis on improving the passing game, quarterback Joshua Nesbitt hasn’t been any more proficient than before.

Those are my thoughts. What are yours?

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GA fan

September 12th, 2010
11:41 am

DAWGS of course, because we play in the SEC, and if we cant play up to SC, then we got some rough strectches ahead. Good grieft..

MC

September 12th, 2010
11:49 am

GT is in by far worse condition than UGA Jeff. Tech’s only salvation is an ACC schedule. Put UGA in the ACC and they win the damn thing. By the end of the season the gap between us and UGA will be as wide as the Pacific Ocean.

MSN

September 12th, 2010
11:52 am

UGA, their D looks almost as bad as those Techsters, lanes anyone can run through. Tech’s O is a little better but not by much.

the big dawg

September 12th, 2010
11:53 am

Tech has more to be concerned about, especially on Defense…but their ACC brethren look like they have a host of problems as well

QB seems like it will be ok for Dawgs and offensive production seems to be more about use of personnel and play calling than it does level of talent and ability. Defense still better than last year but need to get their act together (particularly nose) with their front 3 and inside linebackers pretty quick.

This Saturday will tell you a lot about both teams. Not sure that yesterday told you much as Tech could have just let their guard down and historical performance of Georgia against South Carolina often bears no resemblance of the quality of either team the rest of the season.

BillS

September 12th, 2010
11:55 am

I’d usually say GT is in more trouble, but looking at their creampuff schedule over the next five weeks, they should have time to get some things fixed. Of course it’s also clear they are not a powerhouse team, and Nesbitt is not as good without the cast around him from last year. The Dawgs, my team, got out-muscled, and it’s hard to believe Grantham will permit that top go on long. I’ll predict the defense will be better and tougher by mid-season. Ark is still overrated, but UGA will have to be more creative with its offense to win this weekend.

SimpleDawg

September 12th, 2010
11:56 am

The Dawgs got whupped physically…..and badly.

Poor tackling on defense. New defense looks very exploitable. Spurrier made us look like kitty-cats.

Offense didn’t look too good either……Murray looked like the only one who came to play. Washaun, what’s up with you? You didn’t drive to the game did you?

Hopefully USC has a really good team…..if not, that seat officially got hot.

Ole Smoky

September 12th, 2010
11:56 am

Georgia vs Georgia Tech is going to be a real ‘barn-burner”

SC GameCak Fan

September 12th, 2010
11:57 am

Funny how all these pups were saying we were no good, and were going to smash us… Now were a “really good team” since they got manhandled by us. Typical puppies.

SimpleDawg

September 12th, 2010
11:57 am

Oh, and I sure wouldn’t want to be Rambo when the game film is reviewed. Dude looked skeered.

Avatar of Snarkiness

September 12th, 2010
11:58 am

Pups have a problem. They were exposed. The next three weeks are probably the most important of Richt’s time at Georgia. Lose two of three (or all three) and the unsourced leaks will begin about his firing. Win ‘em all and this will seem like a long time ago.Either way , Dogs are out of the east race almost before it begins.

Tech was expected to take a step back this year and this looks like just that. Kansas will get better ,but isnt all that good. But the exposure of Virgina Tech as a fraud means that the ACC will be pretty wooly. If the Jackets can right the ship, there may be an opening there.

The best sport in the world,folks. thats what this is.

GTNewnanite

September 12th, 2010
11:58 am

I will reserve judgement on the loss to KU till the end of the season. If the Jayhawks have a good season, then I will regret it less.

JB

September 12th, 2010
12:01 pm

Dawgs concern me because:
1.Grantham or no Grantham, we have talent and heart issues. laile on blogger said earlier, Rambo needs to but a ticket next week if he just wants to watch.
2. bobo still our OC. He gives us very ilttle chance to win. When we do win, it’s in spite of him, not because of him.
3. We don’t look like we are physical enough. SC looked pretty good and Bama looks like a different league.
4. poor game plans
5. Excellence is hoped for, not demanded in Athens.
6. poor mgt of the program in general. No QB ready this year( although murray will be fine if he stays healthy.) No depth at RB, DL.
7.OL and OL coach way way over rated, but that area usually gets better as the year progresses.
8. A head coach who say’s to the press, It’s not like we got splattered, we played a pretty good team.
9. Positives. DB’s covered a lor better. Garcia had to hold the ball a lot looking for a open man. and of course, the kicking game. I think Murray is a winner, Bobo isn’t.
10. we win 7 or 8 this year tops.

The Jackets have an easy schedule...

September 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

….considering that the ACC is now the weakest conference in the BCS division. The ACC might as well drop down to the FCS. I mean look at them, the ACC is dropping like flies. They can’t beat anyone. They are weak and pathetic…..

Yesterday the ACC was humiliated across the board, exposing that it is a lower tier football conference.

DOG POOPS

September 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

dogs egos so inflated about who they are but then you recruit 5 stars every year, give me a break

JTH

September 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

UGA lost to a much better opponent and coach.

Arno

September 12th, 2010
12:03 pm

Both programs had question marks over them, to start with. Fans were overconfident – and now, over disappointed. But to answer Jeff’s question: GT is the biggest worry because Kansas should have been a perfect opportunity to show how Tech’s passing game could improve.

DOG POOPS

September 12th, 2010
12:03 pm

all this from sisters from the lafayette and idaho of the poor, no bama or lsu on the schedule, just more mouth running from undeducated morons

lanier

September 12th, 2010
12:04 pm

Tech has real problems that I dont see being solved anytime soon. It may take 5 games before they play to their potential
Ga on the other hand just got beat by a better team. It happens and I can SC playing in Atl against Ala for the title. Dont think Spurier will ever get outcoached and now he appears to have some atheletes

SC GameCak Fan

September 12th, 2010
12:05 pm

JTH, not what you were saying before the game were you? You underestimated us and got handled like little school boys.

P. Bull Terrier

September 12th, 2010
12:05 pm

Tech should bounce back quickly. They are as good as anyone else in the ACC (which isn’t really saying much.) This game was probably more a case of Tech overlooking a weak opponent than an indication that Tech is a really bad football team. They should bounce back in time for the next game.

UGA doesn’t have as far to bounce back as Tech, but the level of competition is a lot higher. As the season goes on, South Carolina will prove to be a pretty good team and Lattimore will prove to be a tough guy for anyone to bring down. UGA didn’t play as poorly as everyone seems to think. They weren’t great, but sometimes you have to give some credit to the opponent. If the coaches take the leash off Murray and let him play, they will be a team that surprises us with a few unexpected wins.

Clint Castleberry

September 12th, 2010
12:05 pm

No, MC, UGA would not win the ACC. Miami would pound them “Steak a la Morelli”. Ga would struggle with UNC, FSU (maybe even MD and UVA) and Boston College, and will struggle with Tech.

This is very easy to answer

September 12th, 2010
12:06 pm

GT is a basic option team in a weak sister league. They run the bone and they play weak sister D but so do the other girls in the ACC. Advantage ………..GT. The “big boys” in the ACC are GT and FSU and Va Tech and Miami and FSU and all have been exposed as only very low second tier or even third teir teams, like I have said all summer. In the ACC GT still has a good cahnce of winning the Coastal because there are no good teams there. GT is alive and well but will end up in a bowl like the Independence or the Liberty or the Boise Blue Carpet thing.

Now for my ala mater, UGA. We are in deep T and that does not mean tequilla, although probably our players do think that. UGA is vastly under sized on the D line and the physical teams will exploit that as the year wears on with injuries,etc. UGA’s # 1 is not a decent corner back. Our safeties are at this time over rated too. See Bacarri Rambo. He is lazy. We do not know how to tackle and that was shocking to see.

The UGA O line is also vastly over rated ………..again in 2010. The UGA backs are only fair in the SEC. We play big boy ball, so we will pay a hard price for having these backs. One injury to them and it only gets worse. Ealey is a loser. Period.

Aaron Murray is good and will grow. he was throttled down by Bobo ( he needs ot be fired ) and he will make some big plays and well, you know. He is a red shirt frosh.

Long year for the Dogs. LOng time fans can see it ………….players know it too. I would find the boys that want to hit and play hard …………..yesterday it was not Rambo.

Yes, without a doubt, UGA worries me greatly and CMR is in trouble now. The new AD McGarity
will not allow this to continue. UGA has not been really good in awhile.

Go Dogs.

FJ10

September 12th, 2010
12:07 pm

Anthony Allen needs to be moved to A back and needs to have the ball on the outside if they want this offense to go.

DuluthDawg

September 12th, 2010
12:11 pm

I think both teams are in trouble this season. Yech probably fares better with an easier early schedule to get better. UGA has to get better in a hurry. The Dawgs lack intensity which can be changed or tempered, so things can turn around quickly if CMR addresses it. I don’t think we took USC for granted; they were clearly the better team.

Neither teams’ fans have much to criticize the other; both need to take care of their own house first.

Outside Observer

September 12th, 2010
12:13 pm

The mutts biggest problem is transition. There is no doubt these players have talent. It’s just a matter of going out and playing hard each week and adjusting to the new schemes. Murray will get better each week, as will the defense. Nothing in practice can prepare you for real game speed. South Carolina is a solid team and in a close, defensive game the edge undoubtedly goes to the veteran quarterback and the defense that hasn’t changed in years. Give it time. Georgia still has a shot if they can knock off the suspicious looking Gators down in Jacksonville.
As for Tech, this team looks like it is lacking in talent. I was excited when Allen broke free on the long run but he couldn’t finish it because he doesn’t possess the speed of a good running back. Nesbitt’s passing ability is very subpar and his receivers do little to help him when he does make a good pass. The defense is just flat out getting pushed around. Missed tackles, missed assignments, and if SC State and Kansas’s offensive lines can cause these huge holes in the middle of the field, God help us when we play a legitimate line on a team like North Carolina or Miami. I was hoping for an 8 or 9 win season. Now I’m just hoping to become bowl eligible.

lawzoo

September 12th, 2010
12:13 pm

ga. was picked to lose by everyone except the ajc(with the exception of Bradley) so how is that a surprise to you good folks in Danielsville?

ga. yech(yeah, I stole it.) was supposed to be in a battle in that Bi-Coastal or Bi-Polar Division( may be toughest in college football according to Mr.CFB himself, Tony Barnyard).
But how does this loss impact that? VPI has already lost to Boise State and Lil’ Jimmy Madison so it’s still up for grabs. Miami got mooned by OSU and Not Carolina is still trying to determine if they can get any
wussier looking uni’s than smurf blew.( and anyone left to wear them.

Brent

September 12th, 2010
12:14 pm

GT was terrible on defense and in the passing game last year. This year is worse in both categories. Don’t look for a repeat championship even in what appears to be a very weak ACC.

Conner Huffman

September 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

UGA is in a far better position then Tech is. First of all, UGA lost ON THE ROAD to a South Carolina team who is always decent and always gives us trouble. Plus, this is probably USC’s best team in years, and they might actually have a chance at going to Atlanta in December. GT just lost to Kansas. Who, if I remember correctly, lost 6-3 to North Dakota State (a 1-AA team) at HOME. GT was losing almost the entire game and didn’t even make it a game until the end. The only tough road games remaining for Georgia are Auburn who we’ve beat 4 years in a row, maybe Miss State, and of course Florida but thats neutral. I think anyone has a great shot at Florida this year. So basically, both teams are going to be ok.

Buzz29

September 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Dogs. Afraid of getting car jacked.

GT2010

September 12th, 2010
12:27 pm

How many touchdowns did Georgia score yesterday?…. 0.

dawgfan

September 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

LOL @ the ACC yesterday. My God what a piece of crap football conference. My vote goes to the Techies because they play in this God awful league. They’ll still probably win 9 or 10 games and the nerdherd will be estatic.

As for Georgia, we’re probably looking at another 8-5 kind of year. The defense is a disgrace. New DC or not there is no excuse for all those missed tackles. Schultz hit the nail on the head about the offense. No identity. This was a problem last year. Bobo can’t figure something out and stick with it. Every week its like watching a different team from the week before. We’ve got problems.

uga1989

September 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

I have to say Panthers. Jax State at home, then that upcoming road trip to Buies Creek. It’s gonna be brutal.

Coach Friday

September 12th, 2010
12:36 pm

Watch Saturday for Petrino to outcoach Richt. It ain’t hard.

SKB

September 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

Pls don’t fire Mike Bobo, he is a good man, he has 5 kids, pls do the Christian thing and forgive his sins and bad play calling. I also regret UGA fired Willie Martinez, he has family in Georgia as well as family that goes to the school. It’s sad to see him relocate. CMR is a god fearing and good Christian man, he will pray for the team to get better in the next 4 years.

Harvey the Rabbit

September 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

Georgia sidewalkers think a new DC that was fired as a position coach by the Dallas Cowboys will be their salvation. If you sidewalk people speak English I need to understand this.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

Neither one really; it’s just a game. ;-)

And who even knew that James Madison has a football team, ’til yesterday?

Bravissimo

September 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

Lawzoo…Good description of NC’s uni’s…lol…Im still laffin

Tech Man

September 12th, 2010
12:42 pm

Both teams are in trouble if they don’t get there act together!! uga was suppose to lose and GT should have stayed in Atlanta; because that was a joke of a game. It reminded me of the ga game last year, same thing, Tech thought the game was automatic win and got there bell rung!! Tech has the talent and they must put it together quick.Tech should have won by 4 tds.

bamaguy

September 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

Georgia is in trouble because of how their schedule coincides with A J Green’s suspension. UGA could easily be 0-3 in SEC play before he returns if they do not win the appeal (which they should, but none of the recent rulings by the NCAA make any sense), A receiver like AJ can make a freshman quarterback mighty comfortable.

I think Tech was overrated and over-hyped from the beginning. Miami, despite the loss, looks like the class of the ACC this year.

Gdawg

September 12th, 2010
12:46 pm

Another long season in Athens (following another long off-season). Same ole same ole. All college teams have deficiencies from year to year but ours seem to give us excuses to suck. It’s always next year or the year after that. I don’t think it is ever going to happen in Athens.

South Carolina has passed us-so who does that leave? KY? uh, no-they beat us last year. Hey, we are better thsn Vandy-maybe!!!

Nice job Richt. Soft coach-soft team.

Insider

September 12th, 2010
12:47 pm

Georgia has coaching issues again.

Matt

September 12th, 2010
12:48 pm

Tech. Sieve-like D will not win you many games. This coming from a Minnesota fan, and I know bad D when I see it.

bamaguy

September 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

“Excellence is hoped for, not demanded in Athens”……best line so far.

Gen Neyland

September 12th, 2010
12:50 pm

I’ve got nothing to bring to this party but a UT defense that got wore out like an aging hooker in Jersey City by the Ducks no-huddle offense. IF I were a Dawg fan, I’d be looking ahead today and not behind at yesterday. UGA will make some noise this year but the stat the announcers gave yesterday that the loser of the UGA-USCe game has failed to make it to the Dome in DEC means something, even a little something. One note : In UGA’s last SEC East games starting with Tennessee 2009, they have gone 1-4. BuLLdawg would love to point that out. I think UGA 2010 is better than that record but the East is a strange beast this year…

gtne80

September 12th, 2010
12:52 pm

More to worry about for Tech. Look at the schedules. UGA has a home tough game against Arkansas next week, but after that, they shouldn’t face a tough game until they play Florida at the end of October. By then, the defense will adapt and Murray will have seasoned. The Dawgs should be 8-3 (at worst) going into the Tech game. Tech faces a road game against a rested UNC squad next week. Yates will slice our defense to ribbons. Later, we face road games against Clemson and VT and a home game against Miami in 3 consecutive weeks. Tech heads to the UGA game 7-4 at best and that assumes that they don’t have another lousy performance like yesterday. Nesbitt is a warrior, but his passing is beyond pitiful…just look at the last pass yesterday.

SKB

September 12th, 2010
12:53 pm

Uga is more in trouble, If you dawg fans can’t see that expect another 7-5 season. Uga has MAJOR fundamental issues with tackling and pathetic call by Bobo. They got physically manhandled by USC. Bad coaching and under prepared players is the result. Uga needs to completely overhaul there program. Tech’s problem is NOTHING compared to Uga, they were overconfident and lost the mental game, that can be fixed rather easily. Uga needs to get rid of the joke called Bobo and Palin wannabe Cmr. After the game Cmr had the nerves to say Uga didn’t play THAT bad? Pathetic…

Tech Man

September 12th, 2010
12:55 pm

It is going to take a lot more than Green to get the muts on track.It is going to take Tech to wake up and remember that they are a good football team. I think if Tech played the muts next week they would destroy them out of complete anger!!! I think the prediction of Tech going 10-2 can still happen if they wake up!! The muts are still on the 8-4 prediction track!!

guillermo

September 12th, 2010
12:56 pm

Tech worries me much more. While Johnson is a keeper, his offensive scheme seems to demand too much practice time on the rushing attack. It is clear that he has not spent enough time on the passing game. If this does not change, the offense will drop like a lead balloon.

Al Groh has a tough assignment. He is switching to the 3-4 and he will have trouble recruiting the athletes needed. GT is a demanding school and its football team operates at a distinct disadvantage. The priority is academics.

This is not hopeless, but expectations will have to be dampened. Good luck Jackets.

SKB

September 12th, 2010
12:57 pm

Dude Tech has nothing to worry about, yesterdays loss was a fluke, if they were more focused and mentally prepared they would win easily. Uga on the other hand was GARBAGE.

jellybeandawg

September 12th, 2010
12:57 pm

The biggest concern to me is the offense. How is it possible that with supposedly one of the nations best offensive lines we can only kick two field goals? Its a joke and completely pathetic. The defense didn’t play great but held them to only 17 points, a total that is respectable and certainly beatable if we could field any sort of an offense.