No more excuses — Georgia’s arrests fall on Mark Richt
Mark Richt has been buried in police reports since March.
(UPDATED at 3:30 p.m. with booking and suspension.)
Before you dismiss this as just another trivial arrest in a 24-7, TMZ flip-cam media world, ask yourself this:
What would you be thinking if this was Florida or Alabama or Tennessee? Would your first reaction be, “This is no big deal. Everybody is picking on us”?
What if this was Nick Saban or Urban Meyer or Houston “I’m Just Trying To Save The World One Quarterback At A Time” Nutt? Would you really be absolving the head coach — in this case, Mark Richt — of any responsibility?
Georgia’s football program has hit nine on the arrest chart. That’s nine since March.
Kickoff is Saturday. There’s still time to run out of fingers.
Here’s the latest: Campus police have booked freshman safety Alec Ogletree on misdemeanor charges of theft by taking and he has been suspended for the season opener. Ogletree, a prized member of their 2010 recruiting class, is charged with stealing a $35 scooter helmet from the Rankin Smith Center on June 15 (police discovering only this week that the helmet was in his possession).
Forget that we’re only talking about a $35 helmet. There’s no such thing as a minor incident any more. There’s a cumulative effect.
I realize this is difficult for some people to accept. We live for this time of year, not just because of our obsession with college football but because, as Richt said this week, “It’s good to be undefeated.” What you feel in Athens, they feel even in Starkville.
But when nine players get arrested between spring and opening kickoff, something is wrong.
Please, no more apologies.
I’ve had it with apologists. They live among the fan base (who claim police are just out to get athletes). They live among the coaching fraternity (because to blame another coach sets themselves up for higher standards). They live among the media (some of whom are too afraid of burning bridges with the program and not having the coach smile at them any more).
Bottom line: This falls on Richt. It’s his program. It’s his responsibility. It’s on his watch.
He doesn’t have to be the one drinking-and-driving. Or hitting-and-running. Or drinking-and-groping. Richt recruited these players, signed these players and ultimately determined, “They will represent the University of Georgia well.” Either he is picking too many of the wrong guys, or he’s not saying or doing enough of the right things when they get here. Regardless, don’t deny the problem.
Richt said Friday he was “disappointed” and that Ogletree is “responsible for a poor decision and will serve a minimum one-game suspension.” He was so angry when running back Washaun Ealey was arrested for a hit-and-run — which occurred while he was driving with a suspended license — that he didn’t even want to speak to Ealey. That anger is justified. The question is whether his suspension of Ealey will last beyond the Louisiana-Lafayette game — because that’s a small notch above running steps in Sanford Stadium.
Forcing Ealey to miss the South Carolina game — that would hurt. Of course, that also would hurt Georgia, and the South Carolina game is really important, right?
When asked at his news conference this week if, in so many words, there was a flaw in his discipline structure, Richt responded: “The flaw is if a guy does something that deserves to be disciplined and you don’t discipline him. That’s where the flaw is. The flaw is in us as humans. We’re flawed, we’re human, we make mistakes. When we make a mistake, then we get disciplined for it. As long as we have 18- to 22-year old guys who are human beings, they are going to make mistakes. That’s just all there is to it. If you don’t discipline it, you have a problem. If they don’t learn from it, then they have a problem.”
Actually, it goes beyond that. If players don’t learn from it, Richt has a problem. And he does.
No more excuses. This falls on him.
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5150 P.O.A.D
September 3rd, 2010
6:19 pm
Wheaver D is serving Dinner who is with me? Automatic for the People is ON. Micheal Stipe will be signing autographs and giving BJ to goodlooking Male Dawg Fans. Fred form the B-52’s is the Nobber in waiting.
Tired and Sick
September 3rd, 2010
6:21 pm
jeff hates CMR Thanks for playing. You lose!!! Now go lie down and take your meds.
UGAnut
September 3rd, 2010
6:24 pm
Some on this blog are ridiculous. A youngster getting in trouble is getting caught smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer under age. Getting arrested for attempted rape (dismissed QB), Hit & Run (Ealey), Theft (Ogletree), etc. are not youngster games but criminals! There is a HUGE difference that a suspension against a nobody opponent just will not atone for. I for one am continuously horrified as a UGA alum that wants to protect my school and my diploma. We all get labeled as useless graduates of a football school and garner lower wages as a result. I LOVE UGA football but would rather have law abiding players to pull for than jerks that really should be behind bars. People that steal from someone else or damage anothers property and run from the responsibility are just not people I like to associate myself with. Can’t believe so many fans on here see things differently and I am ashamed for them.
Reality check
September 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm
A couple of dawg posters have said that Nick Saban had a mess when he got to Bama and cleaned it up in 1-2 years and they haven’t had an arrest in over a year. That is true. Richt needs to do the same and throw down some serious discipline Saban style. Problem is that its his 10th year and if he hasn’t done it yet he aint going to.
And to watch some dawg fans on here try to excuse what is going on is obscene.
There is no excuse for us having 9 players arrested just since the spring. How and why you guys try to put the focus on Schultz or anything else is beyond belief. It really is. And it boggles my mind that people are even trying to rationalize what is obviously a persistent problem with the football team. Wake up and get a dose of reality.
UGAnut
September 3rd, 2010
6:28 pm
I for one am ashamed so many fans on here support the continued play of people that damage anothers property and run from the responsibility or flat out steal from someone else. These aren’t the things youth is supposed to have trouble with. Underage drinking I can understand. Smoking a cigarette I can understand. But actual criminal activity is a major embarassment to me, my school, and lowers the value of my credentials I worked so hard to attain while I attended UGA. I love UGA football but I am saddened that criminals are the ones I am forced to root for. To the 50 to 60 players that are clean kids…GATA! Both the opposition and the criminals within our team.
Daisy Mae
September 3rd, 2010
6:29 pm
I could walk through UGA and get a degree and never read more than 400 pages of a book in most degree tracks.
That’s a pretty accurate assessment of UGA. #1 party school and real academic standards are not very compatible.
Daisy Mae
September 3rd, 2010
6:30 pm
Daisy Mae confirmed fool
Gratefuldawghead
September 3rd, 2010
6:33 pm
GO DAWGS!
Jesus had a Judas
September 3rd, 2010
6:33 pm
Jesus had a guy on his core 12 who stole stuff (Judas stole money). i personally don’t feel that reflects on Jesus’ leadership and character, but according to Jeff’s theory, it doesn’t add up, because Jesus has a few billion followers now, even though 1 out of 12 was a thief.
yo yo ma
September 3rd, 2010
6:35 pm
Jesus had a Judas Your analogy is pitiful. Not even close to being a stretch.
5150 P.O.A.D
September 3rd, 2010
6:35 pm
I spent a decade in Dante’s 4th ring of HELL one football afternoon in Athens. For the UGA fans read some of the Classics and don’t get your news from TMZ. Paris Hilton had UGA fan written all over her.
SEC Watch
September 3rd, 2010
6:36 pm
Don’t forget the example of the culture set by an Athletic Director who disciplines student athletes while being cited for a DUI while wearing his illicit female companion’s red undergarment.
The example is set from the top down as well as the acceptable culture within the Athletic Department. As concluded before and shared by most – UGA is an embarrassment to the SEC and should leave.
Jim007
September 3rd, 2010
6:37 pm
Always thought Richt was a High Class person.
However, after all these arrests, he may have learned too much from….Bobby Bowden…” King of the Hypocrits ! ”
If this contimues Georgia will be known as FSU II …and maybe they will erect a statue of Richt…outside the Georgia State Pen…where Bowden’s should be !!!
Abdullah the Bitcher
September 3rd, 2010
6:37 pm
So, let me see if I get this straight …
If Alabama had nine players arrested this year, UGA fans wouldn’t be laying into Nick Saban? Or if it perhaps happened at Florida, Urban Meyer wouldn’t be receiving your wrath? And, of course, with Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech, you would just say it was boys being boys, right?
Sure …
It doesn’t matter how petty the “crimes” are. It’s the fact “crimes” are being committed that should be the major concern. The fact that UGA has such a class guy at the top with great character is leading a program which – at least in recent history – has been going through so many off-field issues, as well as a clear lack of on-field discipline as well, is a reflection on the type of guys being recruited. Richt is the man at the top of it, and if he wants his life to be a bit easier and his program not to be looked at in such a negative light from the outside, he needs to corral some folks.
Rogue U
September 3rd, 2010
6:37 pm
Goooooooooooooo Georgia Bullthugs !!!!!!! Steal ‘em woof woof woof
Athens Atheist
September 3rd, 2010
6:38 pm
Who cares about Judas?
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Athens Atheist
September 3rd, 2010
6:40 pm
Sorry but Got Thugs? UGA Do !
SOUTHGADAWG88
September 3rd, 2010
6:41 pm
Big deal..We don’t have any kids living in mansions,driving a Bentley,robbing,raping or even beating people up.No drug trafficking,no counterfeiters..I mean seriously when I was 18 this kind of crap would have never even made the campus newspaper.Now they have actually issued an arrest warrant and made it headline news.I’ve never seen so many minor things get soo much press coverage.My god!the things that would have come out under Dooley would have people screaming bloody murder!I don’t know what they are doing all the time at FLA,ALA etc but I DO know a lot of this kind of trivial mess gets handled in house every where but UGA it seems.
yo yo ma
September 3rd, 2010
6:42 pm
Mark Richt is a great person and a wonderful Christian man. That is not at question here.
And to deflect onto Bowden and FSU is just that – trying to change the subject. Bowden is no longer at FSU and no Ga fan will have any room to EVER talk again about the criminoles!!! Spare me your hypocrisy. It’s about Ga and the continuing problem with player misconduct at Ga.
59bulldawg
September 3rd, 2010
6:44 pm
Regarding the Jesus/Richt analogy and that even Jesus had one bad apple. Not the same thing. Christ knew what Judas would do because as God he is all-knowing. Plus Judas served a purpose in Christ’s plan. Christ himself said that no man takes his life from him and that he laid it down freely. Although Judas played a terrible role, it led to a good thing for those of us that believe. What good can possibly come out of these problems each and every year? But just like Christ knew ahead of time what to expect from Judas, Richt and his staff have a pretty good idea where there may be potential problems. No he’s not omniscent but they get to know these fellows pretty well before they make an offer.
OK folks, I’ve been tilting at windmills on here for longer than I had planned. As always I have enjoyed the banter but have to go. I hope we have a good season and I hope those of you going to the game tomorrow have good football weather. And I hope that Richt gets this incident thing turned around. Let’s go Dawgs!
Jesus had a Judas
September 3rd, 2010
6:45 pm
Jesus could walk on water, Jesus could rise from the dead, really cool stuff.
Judas still stole stuff. Judas, 1 of his 12 core leaders, was a thief. Judas sold Jesus out.
I don’t think Judas’ choice to steal money reflects, in any negative way, on the leadership ability or character of Jesus, since Jesus now has billions of followers.
bob
September 3rd, 2010
6:46 pm
I saw a certain key Offensive player steal a candy bar back in 3rd grade, and I am going to press charges the day before the Florida game.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:46 pm
Abdullah the Bitcher
Alabama wins championships, so they can do what they want.
Florida wins championships, so they can do what they want.
The UGA program sucks, so you cannot do what you want.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:47 pm
Well it’s great to be a Florida Gator!!
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:48 pm
bob
That was Buck Belue, so hammer him.
Go Lindsey!!! Go Lindsey!!!
Cannot wait for another shi##y UGA season…..LOL!!!
ryan
September 3rd, 2010
6:48 pm
Kirby Smart or Will Muschamp who should be the next head coach .
bob
September 3rd, 2010
6:49 pm
Why blame Richt? Did not these events occur under his former bosses’ reign. Well we ran his red panties off, problems solved.
Dawgbreath
September 3rd, 2010
6:50 pm
In the Marine Corps, when an individual messes up, the entire platoon is punished. This gets the individuals to hold each other accountable. Richt won’t do anything beyond the one game suspension because he can’t afford to lose vs. USC. If he sat them down vs. USC he would show the kids he means business. But sadly he does not mean business because he is a pi$$ poor leader. Nice guy, though.
dawg4u
September 3rd, 2010
6:51 pm
If MR wants to send a message to the whole squad then he should suspend Ealey for the South Carolina game as well. Sitting out against La.-Lafayette is like being suspended for an exhibition game. The second team could beat these guys and Ealey probably isn’t needed anyway in this game. I am a Dawg fan but I believe that would be the best way to do it. Make it really hurt and maybe the whole team will see that Richt really means business.
Stinger
September 3rd, 2010
6:51 pm
Just shut these UGA blogs down. Every day there is ” closed to comments ” because of all the arrest of dawg players and lets not forget the AD. This is the most pathetic team in all of college football. It’s an absolute disgrace that all of you should be ashamed of. Shorter University will be able to beat you by seasons end. YOU should have no players left if your coach had any guts.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:52 pm
ryan, forget it, both said FU to UGA, which is the reason hammers your program. When you cannot bring a DC back to your home school, then you have major issues. Will is with a championship Big 12 program, which is the excuse Athens folks provide, then they hammer how weak the Big 12 is, until they open with OSU last year and get totally drilled by the Pokes.
Defend that one.
Jesus had a Judas
September 3rd, 2010
6:52 pm
Jesus loves people enough to let them make their own choices, choices to rebel, or do right. Jesus could have forced all to follow him and choose good, but that’s not love.
There are many times, in the Bible, where God changed his mind. For example, after people prayed, God spared Ninevah. So things are not determined in advance.
Surely no one would say God wanted Hitler to do the things Hitler did. Or any or of the vile people throughout history. No way. Yet God loved Adolf enough to allow him to choose good or evil.
Everything’s not determined in advance.
You can’t blame God for Hitler.
Jesus had a Judas
September 3rd, 2010
6:53 pm
Think of how many times the word “If” is used in the Bible. “If my people will….then….”
The “If”, that’s where choice comes in.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:54 pm
Stinger
The AJC closes the blogs because the AJC has an allegiance to the UGA program dating back to Lewis Grizzard. If not for these blogs, the ACJ would not exist.
No one in Athens can take criticism, and that is why this program is tanked.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:54 pm
“If if and buts were candy and nuts we would all a a great Christmas.”
Rob
September 3rd, 2010
6:55 pm
Go to the UGA police department’s web page and look at the arrest records. Between January 1 and June 6 they made almost 350 arrests. Since they only have juristiction on campus, most of these would have been students. However, most of these arrests aren’t reported in the AJC.
Most of the arrests were related to alcohol and/or motor vehicle infractions. College students do stupid things. I’m not excusing the behavior or saying that it is ok. I’m saying that this isn’t about athletes. It’s a broader problem and it is a problem on almost every college campus. If a college actually tried to crack down on underage drinking then they risk looking bad in the press because of the number of arrests.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:55 pm
Let’s start this season off correctly….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I42PYAKXKm4&feature=fvw
45ACP
September 3rd, 2010
6:56 pm
By your logic the United States Postal Service is responsible for several of their workers going “postal”…
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:58 pm
Some great Herschel Walker vs. Ben Bates at UT footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENuMxL6dHMk
UGA1985
September 3rd, 2010
6:58 pm
We fans and alumni must face the obvious. The “party school of the south” has a team that reflects the culture in Athens. The permissive, alcohol-laden, party atmosphere that especially is prevalent at UGA draws and even develops players who don’t want to be worked hard, disciplined, yelled at, and focused and committed to championship football. The glamour and allure of Athens’ nightlife is legendary compared to most schools we play. Couple this with close proximity to an urban mecca like Atlanta, and we now have selfish, distracted players. We need leaders who stay until their senior year is finished and have the focus and drive to instill values in the younger players and truly love UGA. This is a rare commodity in Athens these days. I hope our new AD has some fresh ideas regarding discipline. A heavy, strong hand is needed and I hope he and CMR can work this out together. Losing games and mounting arrests otherwise may continue to plague our university.
Mike Bobo 17 INT
September 3rd, 2010
6:59 pm
Anyone seen Jan Kemp?
Abdullah the Bitcher
September 3rd, 2010
7:00 pm
Rob said: “If a college actually tried to crack down on underage drinking then they risk looking bad in the press because of the number of arrests.”
They were recently named the number one party school. They have just seen the ninth player busted for something this year. They look bad because they’re not cracking down on anything.
Old School
September 3rd, 2010
7:05 pm
So after reading the 5 p.m. update, do you “conspiracy theorists” still think everyone is out to get the Dawgs, specifically the UGA Police Chief? Do you people still wonder why it took more than 3 months after the “incident” that an arrest was made? Yep, it was all a set-up, right. He**, Ogletree stole the helmet from a freakin’ fellow athlete who filed a theft report after it happened in June. The fact is someone turned him in, the police went to interview him, and he had the helmet in his possession! Come on!
But then again, he’s just a kid. Kids steal stuff all the time, don’t they? For goodness sake, the “kid” had barely gotten on campus when he stole something, again, from a fellow athlete of all people. He had to have known there was a chance his victim was a fellow athlete since it was stolen from in front of the Rankin Smith Student-Athlete Academic Center of all places.
And there is the typical Dawg apologist like SOUTHGADAWG who wrote earlier today: “…Look at the arrests. Besides the Mettenberger arrest, they’re small potatoes. They’re the type of arrests that happen to teenagers.” Hey, just “small potatoes.” Come on, give the kid a break. He’s a Dawg. He was UGA’s #1 recruit this past year. We need him. Hey man, let it slide.
Yeah, SOUTHGADAWG, and DAWG NATION, and CJDAWG, ED, and G, like you would have let it slide if someone stole something from you. Or dented your vehicle and drove off. You would have let it go and would have said, “Hey, no harm, no foul. It’s just a kid being a kid.”
Yeah, right.
Every team has its “Lunatic Fringe” who care about one thing and one thing only: Just win, baby. Just win!!” It just seems like UGA has more that its fair share of idiots.
By the way, if the Dawgs get whipped by the Gamecocks next Saturday and/or commit a slew of costly personal fouls that will add to their streak of being one of the most penalized teams in the country, you can count on SOUTHGADAWG and his brethren lighting up the blogs with “Richt has got to go! He has lost control of the team!” et al ad nauseum.
I agree to some extent with Schultz and his laying of the string of arrests at the feet of Richt. However, it’s not that he is not punishing the offenders. Rather, it’s the extent and degree of the punishment. He really had no choice in the Mettenberger incident, but these one-game suspensions won’t cut, especially with Ealey if one game is all he gets. It wasn’t just his violations, but he deliberately disobeyed multiple coaches.
But then again, he is just a kid.
One final question to you yahoo apologists: if you had 9 kids and each of them was arrested in the past 8-9 months would you not be looking in the mirror? Or would you just say, “People are out to get my boys! They’re just kids!”
gt76
September 3rd, 2010
7:06 pm
retire the fullmer trophy…rename it the richt trophy.
Old School
September 3rd, 2010
7:06 pm
So after reading the 5 p.m. update, do you “conspiracy theorists” still think everyone is out to get the Dawgs, specifically the UGA Police Chief? Do you people still wonder why it took more than 3 months after the “incident” that an arrest was made? Yep, it was all a set-up, right. He**, Ogletree stole the helmet from a freakin’ fellow athlete who filed a theft report after it happened in June. The fact is someone turned him in, the police went to interview him, and he had the helmet in his possession! Come on!
But then again, he’s just a kid. Kids steal stuff all the time, don’t they? For goodness sake, the “kid” had barely gotten on campus when he stole something, again, from a fellow athlete of all people. He had to have known there was a chance his victim was a fellow athlete since it was stolen from in front of the Rankin Smith Student-Athlete Academic Center of all places.
And there is the typical Dawg apologist like SOUTHGADAWG who wrote earlier today: “…Look at the arrests. Besides the Mettenberger arrest, they’re small potatoes. They’re the type of arrests that happen to teenagers.” Hey, just “small potatoes.” Come on, give the kid a break. He’s a Dawg. He was UGA’s #1 recruit this past year. We need him. Hey man, let it slide.
Yeah, SOUTHGADAWG, and DAWG NATION, and CJDAWG, ED, and G, like you would have let it slide if someone stole something from you. Or dented your vehicle and drove off. You would have let it go and would have said, “Hey, no harm, no foul. It’s just a kid being a kid.”
Yeah, right.
Every team has its “Lunatic Fringe” who care about one thing and one thing only: Just win, baby. Just win!!” It just seems like UGA has more that its fair share of idiots.
By the way, if the Dawgs get whipped by the Gamecocks next Saturday and/or commit a slew of costly personal fouls that will add to their streak of being one of the most penalized teams in the country, you can count on SOUTHGADAWG and his brethren lighting up the blogs with “Richt has got to go! He has lost control of the team!” et al ad nauseum.
I agree to some extent with Schultz and his laying of the string of arrests at the feet of Richt. However, it’s not that he is not punishing the offenders. Rather, it’s the extent and degree of the punishment. He really had no choice in the Mettenberger incident, but these one-game suspensions won’t cut, especially with Ealey if one game is all he gets. It wasn’t just his violations, but he deliberately disobeyed multiple coaches.
But then again, he is just a kid.
One final question to you yahoos: if you had 9 kids and each of them was arrested in the past 8-9 months would you not be looking in the mirror? Or would you just say, “People are out to get my boys! They’re just kids!”
Old School
September 3rd, 2010
7:07 pm
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Old School
September 3rd, 2010
7:09 pm
So after reading the 5 p.m. update, do you “conspiracy theorists” still think everyone is out to get the Dawgs, specifically the UGA Police Chief? Do you people still wonder why it took more than 3 months after the “incident” that an arrest was made? Yep, it was all a set-up, right. He**, Ogletree stole the helmet from a freakin’ fellow athlete who filed a theft report after it happened in June. The fact is someone turned him in, the police went to interview him, and he had the helmet in his possession! Come on!
But then again, he’s just a kid.
Kids steal stuff all the time, don’t they? For goodness sake, the “kid” had barely gotten on campus when he stole something, again, from a fellow athlete of all people. He had to have known there was a chance his victim was a fellow athlete since it was stolen from in front of the Rankin Smith Student-Athlete Academic Center of all places.
And there is the typical Dawg apologist like SOUTHGADAWG who wrote earlier today: “…Look at the arrests. Besides the Mettenberger arrest, they’re small potatoes. They’re the type of arrests that happen to teenagers.” Hey, just “small potatoes.” Come on, give the kid a break. He’s a Dawg. He was UGA’s #1 recruit this past year. We need him. Hey man, let it slide.
Yeah, SOUTHGADAWG, and DAWG NATION, and CJDAWG, ED, and G, like you would have let it slide if someone stole something from you. Or dented your vehicle and drove off. You would have let it go and would have said, “Hey, no harm, no foul. It’s just a kid being a kid.”
Yeah, right.
Every team has its “Lunatic Fringe” who care about one thing and one thing only: Just win, baby. Just win!!” It just seems like UGA has more that its fair share of idiots.
By the way, if the Dawgs get whipped by the Gamecocks next Saturday and/or commit a slew of costly personal fouls that will add to their streak of being one of the most penalized teams in the country, you can count on SOUTHGADAWG and his brethren lighting up the blogs with “Richt has got to go! He has lost control of the team!” et al ad nauseum.
I agree to some extent with Schultz and his laying of the string of arrests at the feet of Richt. However, it’s not that he is not punishing the offenders. Rather, it’s the extent and degree of the punishment. He really had no choice in the Mettenberger incident, but these one-game suspensions won’t cut, especially with Ealey if one game is all he gets. It wasn’t just his violations, but he deliberately disobeyed multiple coaches.
But then again, he is just a kid.
One final question to you yahoos: if you had 9 kids and each of them was arrested in the past 8-9 months would you not be looking in the mirror? Or would you just say, “People are out to get my boys! They’re just kids!”
jay
September 3rd, 2010
7:14 pm
Da “boy” gangsta. That’s what it takes to be a real dawg.
thuga da beast must be fed.
Loran Whataya got?
September 3rd, 2010
7:15 pm
Larrrrrrrry …..it seems that weve got a bunch of Fulmer cups falling out of the sky over here on the Georgia sideline.