If NCAA has any question, Dogs should sit Green to be safe

A.J. Green is a difference makers but Georgia shouldn't need him to beat Louisiana-Lafayette.

A.J. Green is a difference-maker but Georgia don't need him to beat Louisiana-Lafayette.

Let’s put aside for a moment whether you believe Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green is innocent or guilty in college football’s AgentGate. There are three scenarios that can play out between now and the time the Bulldogs kick off their season Saturday against Louisiana-Lafayette in Athens.

1.) The NCAA informs Georgia that Green received some form of an extra benefit, mandating some form of discipline. Response: Easy. Green is suspended for the opener.

2.) The NCAA informs Georgia that Green is completely innocent in the matter. Response: Easy. Green plays and on Saturday everybody has a chance to enjoy watching probably the finest wide receiver in the nation.

3.) The NCAA informs Georgia: “We’re still looking into this.” Response: Not so easy.

Or is it? If there’s even a one-percent chance Green is not completely in the clear before game time, wouldn’t it be wise for coach Mark Richt to sit him out? The potential downside to this is he might unfairly be punishing a player who could be innocent. The potential upside is if the NCAA does find something on Green, even if trivial, the Dogs wouldn’t have to worry about forfeiting Saturday’s game down the line for playing an ineligible player.

Look, if Green is innocent, I feel for the kid. He certainly doesn’t strike you as someone who would accept a plane ticket to fly down to Miami so he could party with an agent, nor anything remotely close to that.

But let’s look at this logically: Georgia is going to win Saturday anyway. A win may not ensure much in the big picture but a forfeit wrecks the season. Is it really worth the risk?

Here is what has happened to other players connected with the Miami agent story:

♦ Alabama’s Marcell Dareus – who prompted coach Nick Saban to go on his comical “pimp” rant at SEC media days – has been suspended for the Tide’s first two games. He also must pay $1,787.17 to the charity of his choice to compensate for the value of transportation, lodging and meals he received.

♦ South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders was suspended for the Gamecocks’ opener against Southern Miss Thursday night. Coach Steve Spurrier said the suspension was for a “violation of team rules,” not the NCAA investigation, but he wouldn’t specify what the violation was.

♦ North Carolina defensive end Marvin Austin (a friend of Dareus’s who is believed to have made the arrangements for him) has been suspended indefinitely by coach Butch Davis.

So what are your thoughts on the subject? If the NCAA gives Richt a vague answer on the status of the investigation, what should he do?

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Georgia Dawg 79

September 3rd, 2010
9:54 am

I believe Green should sit as well. Rather be safe than sorry. Go Dawgs!

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 3rd, 2010
9:57 am

Drop the student athlete charade and pay the players. It’s a big business, rolling in money, and they are the only ones who aren’t getting a piece of the pie.

Delbert D.

September 3rd, 2010
9:58 am

He should sit out as a precaution.

LosDawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:01 am

I have to agree with you Jeff, sit AJ this game. But what happens if we don’t get an answer from the NCAA by next weekend?

richham

September 3rd, 2010
10:01 am

If you hold him out of the game, what happens if they haven’t decided by next weeks game? Do you hold him out again?

How does Green recover his reputation if he is found completely innocent but was punished unfairly??? Who oversee’s that the NCAA is held accountable?

I’m sorry but the NCAA has at least an obligation to call the school and say “hey, it’s not looking good on AJ Green. We suggest you sit him until we make a final determination.” It’s still innocent until proven guilty. If he’s eligible to play, he should play, period. Even if it means forfeiting the win at a later date.

Blindog

September 3rd, 2010
10:02 am

If you hold him out,that means you think A.J. is a liar!!Let him play.

ed

September 3rd, 2010
10:03 am

the ncaa owes it to AJ to decide something by tomorrow for gods sake.

Atown

September 3rd, 2010
10:04 am

Jeff, I thought that the NCAA hadn’t made any kind of statement regarding who on Georgia’s team is being investigated? I guess that’s why Saunders is suspended for “violation of team rules”– to avoid violating the NCAA-mandated gag order by implicating him in Agent Gate.

Hankie Aron

September 3rd, 2010
10:05 am

Jeff,
We were talking about this last night. Definately safe than sorry if you don’t hear anything from NCAA leaches. We don’t need A.J. for this game anyway. Now in Columbia in a week……………that will be different story and I hope they have heard the verdict by then but you never know.

J Dub

September 3rd, 2010
10:07 am

Alec Ogletree?? What??

Dawglasville

September 3rd, 2010
10:09 am

What is the deal with Ogletree? Man, I’m sick of this crap.

Hillbilly Deluxe – If the players feel so strongly about not getting paid then they should play another sport. Football is the only sport with these rules. Hell, boycott a season. Do the traditional black colleges pay their athletes? Why not? Anyone who thinks football players are being treated unfair should do something about it? Personally, I’m sick of having my degree cheapened by these kids who won’t take responsibility for their actions. For us, it hasn’t been one bad apple. We are up to about 10% of our football team now.

Dirty Dawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:13 am

Why in hell would you people post anything about the Ogletree ‘arrest warrant’ until you had even the slightest bit of detail? Oh wait, I know…it’s to give the dawg-haters out there their chance to stick it to us one more time…or to throw a scare into his friends and relatives…or basically just so you can say ‘FIRST’. You cretins, there was a time when the AJC had some journalistic integrity, but I guess that died with Ralph McGill.

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Not another arrest

September 3rd, 2010
10:14 am

I’m sick of these arrests. We truly ARE the laughing stock of the NCAA. Richt needs to have a meeting with his players and say, any trouble from you and you are GONE. No exceptions. Don’t care if you are starting QB, don’t care if you are a 5 star, don’t care if you are a heisman frontrunner, don’t care if you are AJ Green. YOU ARE GONE!!!

Dirty Dawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:16 am

Hey dawglasville, assuming you are, indeed, a Georgia fan, then don’t fall for this crap. Jumping to conclusions and/or reacting to the AJC’s throwing out something without details or confirmation is just what they expect us to do. Of course, if your not a Georgia fan, then your motivation is all too obvious.

Paul in RDU

September 3rd, 2010
10:18 am

Jeff – I agree on AJ sitting out if the NCAA has not made a ruling by gametime.

coach smith

September 3rd, 2010
10:18 am

since when are arrest warrents issued for a supposed $35 item….anything below $100 bucks is never gonna make it through a court and below $50 “thefts” are usually thrown out with a scolding or a fine in the amount

soooooooo stupid….the arrest warrent action costs more than the supposed item that was taken

dap01

September 3rd, 2010
10:19 am

Jeff, thanks for your unbiased concern for UGA and their players.

Charles

September 3rd, 2010
10:19 am

No, its not that easy. Sitting Green simply because the NCAA hasn’t levied its final say-so over the entire matter would be asinine and to many, would insenuate self-admitted guilt. I can assure you Richt and co. know exactly where they stand. Green’s likely just a witness who was questioned about the invitees…as such, Richt won’t hestitate to play him tomorrow. Two stories in two days about a complete and total non-story. Lord have mercy. And nice comments on yesterday, Schultz, to the Jax radio station or wherever it was based out of. Richt should suspend Ealey for two games but won’t because of the opponent? Yeah, because there’s so much precedence for suspending a guy for two games b/c of a traffic charge. And I notice you didn’t mention the Elam arrest in Gainesville that hasn’t even warranted a one-game suspension.

We’re not immune to our fair share of idiots – Ogletree has proven that. But come on with this nonsense on the Green story – or non-story, as it were.

SD Dawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:19 am

I’d like to believe AJ but you cannot put the hopes and aspirations on the line on one persons word. Do I believe AJ? Yes. But he should sit this weekend. We can worry about next week next week.

As for Ogletree…if guilty, big suspension. This #&@# cannot be tolerated. Some of these guys are bad seeds and they need to be weeded out. No excuses! Not saying he did it, but if he did, then he should pay the price.

What is taking so long?

September 3rd, 2010
10:19 am

The NCAA is moving too slowly. Should at least let AJ know where he stands.

The arrests are getting out of control. Would you rather have a national championship team who’s players are getting arrested every week? Or would you rather have an above average SEC team who has kids we can be proud of off the field? Quit recruiting these morons!

Bryan G.

September 3rd, 2010
10:20 am

Richt needs to start kicking people off the team who get arrested. This stuff is ridiculous.

Dawglasville

September 3rd, 2010
10:21 am

I hope no one blogs in here that if you pay these kids they won’t have to steal. These are two entirely different subjects.

David Granger

September 3rd, 2010
10:21 am

I agree with you, Jeff. Would be a tragedy to let A.J. play, beat La-Lafayette handily, and then have to forfeit later. But not having this cleared up in time for opening day is awfully damn incompetent, even by NCAA standards.

MikeP

September 3rd, 2010
10:21 am

Let him play! He said he did nothing wrong, do you think the kid is a liar? If you think he’s a liar, muck-rake to get him kicked off the team. If you don’t think he’s a liar, he should play.

Cobb Dawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:27 am

On the Ogletree story: Mark Bradley had the definitive word on UGA arrests the other day. Here it is in case you missed it:

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2010/08/27/another-arrest-embarrassing-for-uga-but-not-humiliating/

Also, let’s remember that while any arrest warrant is a serious matter, this isn’t much of an issue for the team’s current depth chart. Ogletree is a talent but is still just a freshman. Still plenty of time for the coaches — and others who care about him — to turn him around and straighten him out.

Harry the Hat

September 3rd, 2010
10:28 am

AJC headline: Warrant issued for arrest of UGA safety Ogletree

Make that nine arrests for the year, and 44 arrests for the last three years.

And yes, we ARE counting.

When will this disgraceful crap end???

Dawglasville

September 3rd, 2010
10:28 am

Dirty Dawg – Maybe it is the snowball effect. Maybe it just struck a nerve today. I am indeed a fan. I graduated in 88. I believe in being innocent until proven guilty. Maybe I overreacted. I’m just sick of seeing the bad press. I don’t know why someone would take a helmet. I got drunk at Hooters 27 years ago and stole a hula hoop. I just want the season to start.

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Marzha

September 3rd, 2010
10:31 am

I got drunk at Hooters 27 years ago and stole a hula hoop.

So you’re the one. You’ll burn in hell for that. :-)

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DawgFan13

September 3rd, 2010
10:33 am

I would not sit Green even if the NCAA said they were still looking into it because last year they were looking into Dez Bryant and then after he was deemed ineligible Okie St didn’t have to forfeit any games……

Cecil in Loganville

September 3rd, 2010
10:35 am

Some of these guys are bad seeds and they need to be weeded out.

“Some”? Make that “most.”

And Green was in South Beach.

Charlie Dalton

September 3rd, 2010
10:37 am

Attention UGA football players. It’s labor day weekend and the employees of the many state police departments need a break. Please show some compassion.

athensdawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:40 am

just another day at the most undiciplined program in college football…….

Bryan G.

September 3rd, 2010
10:42 am

Time to start kicking players off the team. We are not getting their attention.

Dez Bryant

September 3rd, 2010
10:43 am

Why didn’t Okie State have to forfeit games I played in last year?

Alphare

September 3rd, 2010
10:44 am

Where did UGA find those characters? Mettenburger, Ealey, Ogletree, Damon …

The number of bad apples must be way above national average in the athletic dept of the higher education institution of UGA.

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yankeedawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:44 am

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laces out

September 3rd, 2010
10:44 am

Schulz, if that was the case, wouldn’t Oklahoma State have to forfeit the games Dez Bryant played in last year?? Where’s the consistency with the NCAA?

AWJ

September 3rd, 2010
10:44 am

How about the NCAA get an answer to Georgia BEFORE the game….There is a noble possibility. They have made their decsions on the other players, why is it taking so long with AJ….I give a big middle finger to the NCAA, the KGB of athletics. How can you punish a team for playing an ineligble player BEFORE the NCAA determined he was eligible? What a bunch of jerks….

Joey

September 3rd, 2010
10:45 am

Hillbilly Delux, ever hear of Title IX? if you pay athletes of a money-making sport such as football or basketball, you would have to pay athletes of every other money-losing sport, such as virtually every women’s sport, as well as swimming, track, etc.

MikeP, are you living in the 60s? Parents, friends, lawyers all tell kids and adults to lie these days. Hell, lawyers even knowlingly lie to judges, with no consequences.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 3rd, 2010
10:45 am

Cecil, is everybody in Loganville a moronic loser just because you are?

yankeedawg

September 3rd, 2010
10:45 am

The NCAA is on a power trip! To save face over the Bush mess@USC.Crap or get off the pot!!!

AWJ

September 3rd, 2010
10:45 am

Light ‘em up AJ…..

Just sayin

September 3rd, 2010
10:46 am

Warrant issued for Ogletree? Oh boy, and the hits just keep on coming at THUG-U.

FORTY ONE POINTS to your seventeen points

September 3rd, 2010
10:47 am

yep,

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Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 3rd, 2010
10:47 am

Charlie Dalton, That’s funny. And apparently a necessary public announcement.

Dawglasville

September 3rd, 2010
10:48 am

As much as I am sure that our Tech friends are enjoying the breaking news, I am enjoying the fact that the front page has a picture of Tech fans sandwiched in between a picture of gay, black pride and Dragon Con. One of the UGA editors must have done that. Saturday can’t come fast enough.