Auburn may get an '04 title yet (and who's USC's cover boy?)

Vol-in-ATL

July 28th, 2010
9:07 am

I said I would never do this but………first.

MatthewH

July 28th, 2010
9:14 am

Maybe they can put an asterisk or something?

MatthewH

July 28th, 2010
9:16 am

I will say this-I always enjoy reading your Kiffin bashing, but it may be time to put this to bed. Who cares about the Trojans in this part of the country?

Max Sizemore

July 28th, 2010
9:20 am

From time to time, if you watch USC play an away game and look in the crowd, you will see a sign which says, “Lubricate the trojans.” Seems appropriate here.

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Barnacle Bill Bavasi

July 28th, 2010
9:50 am

When your cover stats are in flux and the print deadline is upon you … start over.

Sam

July 28th, 2010
9:52 am

The only saving grace of knowing I’m going to Hades is this … Lane Kiffin’s torments will be the center ring entertainment.

Tucker T

July 28th, 2010
9:53 am

11 national championships, 31 bowl victories, 6 Heisman winners, 156 first-team All-Americans and 437 NFL players, number of scandals and screwups…infinite.

Worm

July 28th, 2010
9:53 am

I believe Lane Kiffin invented the internet!

FalconUGAFan

July 28th, 2010
9:54 am

I would think a pic of the team would be more apropos..but that’s just me…

Kiffin is in the right place

July 28th, 2010
9:54 am

usc—- u suck coach

Tucker T

July 28th, 2010
9:56 am

Giving the national championship to Auburn would be ridiculous and would mean nothing to anyone in the country except for Auburn fans. If we had a time machine and could go back in time and have Oklahoma and Auburn play then you could give them the championship but that ain’t happening.

USC Rob

July 28th, 2010
9:58 am

Jeff, in case you don’t remember OJ was found innocent in a court of law by a jury of his peers. No reason to make some terrible accusation that he “may have killed two people”……a crime that a judge and jury found him innocent of and totally cleared the charges.

William Shatner Face

July 28th, 2010
9:59 am

That’s Hilarious! Lane is such a doosh, cant wait for him to get fired!!

D Fence

July 28th, 2010
10:02 am

If they do it….its just another reason for Bama to make fun of Auburn. Havent you guys had enough already of that?

Dr. Phil

July 28th, 2010
10:04 am

Um, where’s OJ now?

Wozzo the Wonder Dog

July 28th, 2010
10:14 am

Courts/juries do not find people “innocent” – they find them “not guilty”, meaning that they felt the proscution did not present enough or the right kind of evidence to show guilt. You don’t really think O.J. is innocent, do you?

USC is a joke!!!

July 28th, 2010
10:14 am

That’s all I had to say.

PMC

July 28th, 2010
10:16 am

It’s kind of embarassing that they are trying to use Reggie Bush as a scape goat. You don’t get wacked like that for one players indiscresions…you get wacked because your institution has no control whatsoever and your AD is a freaking lunatic.

OU

July 28th, 2010
10:17 am

How can Auburn get the 2004 national title trophy, they didnot play in the title game! USC needs to mail it to Oklahoma! The AP poll decision to leave USC #1 for 2004, opens the door for any college to play illegal players in major bowl games??

AlwaysAVol

July 28th, 2010
10:18 am

If it was up to me, Layla would have been on the cover. Just sayin’…

KZGuy

July 28th, 2010
10:18 am

Hey Rob. The jury did NOT find him innocent. The jury’s decision was not guilty because the government could not prove its case. Not guilty has nothing to do with innocent. Therefore OJ never heard the word innocent in a court of law.

William Shatner Face

July 28th, 2010
10:20 am

OJ is a murderer and thief, get over it dude!

HugoStiglitz

July 28th, 2010
10:22 am

I agree with you OU. Why is all the talk of Auburn getting the title? Why not OU? Because they lost to USC? That loss was vacated so OU went undefeated that season also didnt they? Plus they were actually in the title game. I dont see how Auburn deserves it over them.

AlwaysAVol

July 28th, 2010
10:22 am

I do think the clouds gathering around the football stadium is very tastefully done though. Of course it makes kiffin look like one of those scrubbing bubbles in a toilet bowl.

robodawg

July 28th, 2010
10:22 am

Hilarious. Not sure what the statute of limitations is when it comes to vacating a national championship?! There have been some poor choices over the last century. And probably some investigations could uncover some shady dealings by past winners.

Auburn definitely deserved a shot in ‘04. But unfortunately, they didn’t get it, and that can’t be undone. I think it’s best to just remember that the national championship is MYTHICAL, and move on.

Robert

July 28th, 2010
10:25 am

USC Rob, You are utterly clueless. OJ Simpson was never found innocent, but the reason he was found not guilty was a bunch of idiots like yourself.

Ted Striker

July 28th, 2010
10:26 am

I’ve seen some lame media guide covers but USC has taken it to a new low. Then again, it beats Orgeron with his shirt off.

TommyJack

July 28th, 2010
10:27 am

Pat Haden/Lame Kiffin=BP and Gulf Coast.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 28th, 2010
10:28 am

They should make OU and AU play the game just like the great football movie w/ Kurt Russell and Robin Williams, The Best of Times, and wait till they are all fat and out of shape to go along with it.

GeoffDawg

July 28th, 2010
10:32 am

USC Rob, do delusions run in your family or is that the result of medication abuse?

bank walker

July 28th, 2010
10:35 am

hahaha, usc robin, you are a joke and so is usc and the state of callyfornia.

Clay

July 28th, 2010
10:38 am

Vegas should post odds on how many days Kiffin will remain coach at USC. Kiffin prides himself on spitting in the NCAA’s face with secondary violations, and Pat Haden will run his sorry ass off for the very first one. But, no worries. As long as his dad is still kicking, he will get a job somewhere . . .

OJ still has defenders?

Gary

July 28th, 2010
10:43 am

Jeff Schultz, bash away. The more grief USC has the more I like it. USC is a cheating bunch of slobs. How many times has USC been sanctioned by the NCAA, nine? They are habitual offenders. And cheat again in the future.

CHEAT ON you sorry bunch of ……………..

SOGADOG

July 28th, 2010
10:46 am

Award the National Championship to Auburn, they should have won it in the first place. Auburn deserves it over OU because Auburn won its BCS bowl.

Sam

July 28th, 2010
10:54 am

The prosecution proved its case … the starstruck jury just decided to ignore it.

harold

July 28th, 2010
10:57 am

WE CAN’T STAND KIFFIN. HOWEVER THERE ARE GRAVE CONCERNS WITH DOOLEY WHO WAS A VERY WEAK HIRE! DOOLEY HAS THE #54 CLASS IN THE COUNTRY AT SCOUT AND IS BEHIND EVERY SEC TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE BUT VANDY. HE HAS YET TO SIGN A FOUR STAR PLAYER. HE IS A NICE KID BUT WITH A 17-20 RECORD AT LA.TECH & A 459 WINNING PERCENTAGE——VOL FANS HAVE SEEN DOOLEY FAIL THE VERY THINGS HE CONTROLS. OBVIOUSLY, THE SABAN INFLUENCE DID NOT RUB OFF ON HIM!

HE IS A NICE KID BUT WITH A WEAK STAFF & HORRIBLE RECRUITING THUS FAR HE WILL GO DOWN SOON WITH HAMILTON.FULMER WILL SOON BE HIS BOSS.

OldFan

July 28th, 2010
10:57 am

Well, it sure is hard to explain. But ole Lane must have some kind of mojo working, or he has a lot pictures on a lot of folks. If nothing, he is precocious. It takes most people a lifetime to become as despised as he is.

bamafan

July 28th, 2010
10:59 am

Hey USC Rob – a court cannot by law find anyone “innocent.” The finding was “not guilty” which in OJ’s case meant: “We know you did it but we cannot prove it.” Never confuse innocence with a lack of proof……….by the way, I assume OJ’s hunt for the real killers on golf courses is now on hiatus due to his current incarceration.

dawgster

July 28th, 2010
11:03 am

First of all i think that the title will just be listed as vacated…But a case can be made for Au or Ok to be the National Champion..It is true that Ok was beaten by USC and thus you would say Au is undefeated, but ;if you vacate all of USC’s wins then that, on paper at least puts both teams as having a right to be National Champion…We won’t know if Au would have beat OK or USC for that matter, so my feeling is have Co-Champions with Au and Ok..Seems to be the right thing to do and while the true champion wasn’t decided on the field it still would put some closure to this issue and would be the right thing to do in fairness to Au and Ok…Au may have truly been the better team that year but unfortunately we won’t know…At least as Co=Champions it would ease some of the hurt associated with Au not playing in the National Championship game…

Spike

July 28th, 2010
11:08 am

OJ is still looking for the real killer or killers.. Remember?

REDPANTIES

July 28th, 2010
11:08 am

Damon wants that championship to go to Auburn!

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
11:13 am

Rob, yes the innocent OJ took the CHP on a low speed highway chase. Held a gun to his head and threatened to kill himself. Because he was innocent? Also the long search for the “killer” on the golf courses across America. And let’s not forget that civil trial where a “jury of his peers” awarded the Goldmans everything OJ ever owned, including his Heisman trophy.

Oh yeah, vacate the NC trophy. Sure Auburn should have played for the title but who knew. They screwed themselves IMO when they tried to hire Booby Petrino at that midnight runway meeting.

Remarkable

July 28th, 2010
11:13 am

Thanks Jeff. Good article. Now lets talk about football here in the south.

TROJAN JOE

July 28th, 2010
11:14 am

Enter your comments here I’m sure once the season gets started all you SEC folks will have more to complain about than Kiffin and USC. Get over the fact this guy was offered and took a more prestigous job. With the recruiting class he has coming in, as well as the coaching staff he has assembeld, winning WILL continue at ole SC. FIGHT ON!

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
11:15 am

So it would technically be coorect if it read six Heisman trophy winners or seven Heisman winners. Remove Bush’s name and add the Goldmans.

SSIgator

July 28th, 2010
11:17 am

I say give the title to UGA. According to their fans they are always pre-season #1.

Mike Rehberg

July 28th, 2010
11:18 am

Why not settle this in a fair manner … It’s impossible to go back and play OK vs. Au, so make them National Co-CHAMPIONS! That has been done before. End of debate!!!

Ryan

July 28th, 2010
11:20 am

Notice all those dark clouds hanging over the program in that cover. That is a nice touch.

dawgster

July 28th, 2010
11:24 am

SSlgator, it doesn’t surprise me that a gator fan would make such a statement when the article has nothing to do about the dawgs or the gators…Why not for once try and show some class when posting…The article is not about your mighty gators or whether your dislike the dawg nation…Find a gator blog to spew your posts on….

juice sourcer

July 28th, 2010
11:26 am

Keep bashing please.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
11:28 am

I can see an argument for just vacating the 2004 national title, awarding it to OU even though I disagree with that, or awarding it to AU. If it goes to AU I’ve no problem with that. And this is from an Alabama fan.

Probably the most interesting comment is Harold’s comment on Dooley’s recruiting at UT. Halfway through the year UT doesn’t have a committment from a single 4 star player, its committment list is ranked 54th nationally, and the vols trail everybody in the recruiting rankings in the sec except Vandy. This is horrible news if you’re a Vol fan.

UT traditionally has the single largest recruiting budget in the country, they have the big name to recruit nationwide, and Dooley should be locking up top shelf talent left and right with the promise of early playing time. With only 6 scholarship O-lineman on campus UT should have not one but several highly touted O-lineman committed for the 2011 recruiting class. This does not bode well at all for UT.

Really SSI Gator???

July 28th, 2010
11:30 am

I haven’t seen any real dawg fans say we were preseason #1. Seriously, keeep posting, becasue the more you do, the better we look…moron..

Jgolds06

July 28th, 2010
11:32 am

I am definitely sure that Okalhoma wouldn’t want any part of a Championship that wasn’t won on the field. I would think that Auburn wouldn’t either. These universities have proud histories and are capable of winning championships without being handed anything. If SC is stripped of the 04 title, then I say let there be an asterisk and an explanation as to what happened.

George Stein

July 28th, 2010
11:32 am

USC Rob – The court did not find him innocent. They found him not guilty. There is a big difference between the two. Plus, most people with a brain have a pretty good idea what happened.

As to the larger issue, Auburn should not, under any circumstances, be retroactively awarded the National Championship. While they ended the season unbeaten, we don’t know whether they would have defeated USC (in fact, we have some evidence that they would have been smacked). Further, we don’t know whether Oklahoma would have ended the season unbeaten if they had played VA Tech in the Sugar Bowl that year. All of this also ignores Utah, which also ended the season unbeaten.

Essentially, there are far too many variables to go back and award a title to another team. For 2004, there should not be a champion.

NoGaGator

July 28th, 2010
11:32 am

I’m so confused.

Part of me wants to have Haden come up with enough stuff (ex. lawsuit by Titans) to fire Kiffie’s sorry a$$ and soon.

The other part of me wants Kiffie have to have to stay and coach through the upcoming train wreck of USC football for the next 3 yrs.

What a dilemma! Never thought I’d feel sorry for USC after Garrett, Slick Pete and now Lyin’ Lame but I may if Haden makes it right.

Asheville Dawg

July 28th, 2010
11:36 am

Just amazing what folks think on your blog Senor Jeff.

Of course, O.J. was found not guilty on that tragedy that occurred to his former wife and that young fellow. But when he stole some things from a sports memorabilia dealer he gets sent to prison.

Only in America.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
11:37 am

You would have to Split the MNC between Auburn and OU. OU didn’t get to play Auburn and vice-versa. You have to split it if you are going to give to a team other than USC.
The cover is a JOKE. It should be the Team or a few players. Hell, the coach has a TV show like he needs to be on the Media Guide. EGO too much EGO if the cover shot is just the coach.

dawgster

July 28th, 2010
11:39 am

Definitely not a UT fan here, but don’t get to bent out of shape over the Vol recruiting class just yet, there are several very good recruits looking at them and I think Dooley will do well this year, and maybe even better next year…I think way too much is made of how many *stars* a player may have based on info from a recruiting service…It looks good on paper and gives everyone thrills, but unitl they get on the field we really can only speculate on how good of a recruiting class it is…The list is very big on the number of NFL players that were not highly touted going into college…Again, have no allegence with the Vols, but the program is a very good program, and while it has some issues right now, i wouldn’t count them out…The 54th ranking is only a number for others to look at…

boots

July 28th, 2010
11:42 am

They should put a HUGE asterisk on the cover – preferably right on Lane Kiffin’s face. And good for Auburn. If they count national titles like Alabama does (”1843 – two guys threw a turnip to each other in Alabama, and no one else did that year, so that counts towards one of our 349 national championships”), they should go ahead and put this one down.

Danny Terrio

July 28th, 2010
11:43 am

Let them pay!

POAD

July 28th, 2010
11:44 am

dawgster good points. I hate to see kids commit before the end of their Sr year anyway. So many things change during the High School Season and the College season. Dooley may do better than expected and some recruits will join the vols. Murry maybe great at UGA and LeMay may not sign because he will not get a shot. I thinks decide or talk about their decisions too early.

George Stein

July 28th, 2010
11:45 am

By the way, the suit by the Titans against USC was possibly the greatest piece of marketing I’ve ever seen.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
11:54 am

Ryan, great call on the dark clouds in the photo. Hilarious.

Hollywould

July 28th, 2010
11:57 am

I am a War Eagle but who cares about a mythical NC for 2004. Doesn’t change anything. I’m with Boots, give it to the Bammers. They need another mythical championship.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
11:57 am

Don’t get too excited about the Vols low ranking class. Fulmer didn’t leave the cupboard bare when he left and Kiffin didn’t hurt recruiting while he was there. Dooley needs a year or two to show progress by winning and UT will be back on the upper ranks in recruiting.

te29wr

July 28th, 2010
12:00 pm

I can say that OJ is not a USC favorite. All things, related to him, were gone from the campus when he went to trial.

Lame will be out before probation is over

fishtales

July 28th, 2010
12:02 pm

Give it to the Barners but put an asterisk by it just like their 57 title.

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July 28th, 2010
12:03 pm

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dobearsbare

July 28th, 2010
12:03 pm

Well, they probably didn’t want to spend the $50,000 to make the change, knowing that Kiffin’s multimillion buyout is likely on the horizon.

Bugs the hell out of me that he couldn’t tuck in his pants for the media guide cover photo, by the way. You stay classy Lane.

Bama man

July 28th, 2010
12:10 pm

Give it to Aubarn. That’s the only way they’ll ever get a title. The reason they didn’t play for it was the weak schedule they played. Tubberfart is a sorry coach and a sorry man.

Hairy Box

July 28th, 2010
12:19 pm

The barn will roll Toobers Corner again if they receive this nominal make-believe title.

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July 28th, 2010
12:27 pm

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gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
12:28 pm

It looks like Kiffin is standing line for the restroom in that picture. And really has to go.

larry

July 28th, 2010
12:29 pm

Anybody that plays Citadel and La-Monroe in the same season doesn’t belong in a national championship conversation.

moddyd

July 28th, 2010
12:30 pm

OJ did what he did well after his playing days at USC. Bush had violations while playing at USC. See the difference??? I really do not see your connection to bringing that up. I hate USC by the way.

Paddy

July 28th, 2010
12:33 pm

Spike your are soooo right! OJ was still looking for his wife’s killer. Before he went to jail, he had eliminated all folks on golf courses in California and Florida. He was making great progress and lowering his handicap at the same time. Not a task I would be willing to take on, even in my best years. His quest will resume when he reaches his 83rd birthday. That is, if they reduce his sentence with time served and good behavior. Come on OJ we know you can do it!! Or maybe you already did it!!!

Boise Dawg

July 28th, 2010
12:37 pm

What about Utah… didn’t they also go 13-0 and win the Fiesta Bowl?

Auburn had an uphill argument getting into the BCS title game when they had Citadel, La Tech and La Monroe on their schedule… just unlucky that there were multiple undefeated teams and pretty tough to argue over Oklahoma and USC.

I also know it shouldn’t factor.. but in the current system we have going 8-5 and getting blown out by Southern Cal in 2003 didn’t help their cause in 2004… but that is the reality of the current system. Giving Auburn the title now is dumb and probably won’t appease their fan base.

SO CAL FAN

July 28th, 2010
12:49 pm

Auburn needs to stop crying…let’s see in 2002 USC beat Auburn 24-17 and then in 2003 beat Auburn 23-0. Oh, in 2004 Auburn played The Citadel, LA Tech and La Monroe (all at home) while USC played VA Tech (away), Colo State (home), BYU (away) and Notre Dame (home) as their OOC games. Auburn played a weak schedule. If the BCS title is to be given to another team, it should be OU, not an overrated Auburn team.

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Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
12:55 pm

boots

July 28th, 2010
11:42 am
They should put a HUGE asterisk on the cover – preferably right on Lane Kiffin’s face. And good for Auburn. If they count national titles like Alabama does (”1843 – two guys threw a turnip to each other in Alabama, and no one else did that year, so that counts towards one of our 349 national championships”), they should go ahead and put this one down.

Boots,

Bama officially counts 13 ncs while the ncaa media guide credits us with 17 going by any poll. If you go by the most usual standard which is by one of the 2 major polls since 1936(AP and coaches poll) we have 8 legit titles(tied with ND). Going by this standard USC has 7 including the one in question and not the 11 that USC prints on that media guide featurning Kiffin. Bama’s other titles inlcude 1925,26, 30, 34, and 41. 1941 is not legit. But 1925, 30, and 34 saw 3 Bama teams go 10-0 and win the Rose bowl the defacto national title game at the time. Those 3 are very legit mythical titles even if they are mythical and or retroactive. No one was better in those 3 years. 1926 Bama team was unbeaten and tied the other top team in the land Stanford in the Rose Bowl. A split title is certainly warranted there also but I’ll chose not to include it just so you won’t complain. Bottom line is that we have 8 recognized titles by one of the 2 major polls, 11 legit titles, and this doesn’t include 2 unbeaten, untied Bama teams in 1945 10-0 and 1966 11-0 that weren’t awarded ncs. You should learn something before making jokes that Bama was claiming national titles back in 1843.

larry

July 28th, 2010
12:59 pm

Regardless of what Bush did, he was exciting to watch.

The way it’s going and the basis for some of the sanctions against usc, every d-1 school will face the same issue (re closing practices to outsiders (movie stars & press) since it creates an environment where the athlete does not feel he a part of the student body!) Does anybody really feel that athletes in a major school are treated the same as the student body? Using that logic, every school is in violation. The only difference between a moviestar and a reporter is the size of their wallet. Best way to handle the issue is pay them and get beyond it (maybe fund it through an excise tax on agent earnings).

Boise Dawg

July 28th, 2010
1:00 pm

The constant USC bashing gets a little tiresome… I loathe them just like I loathe the Yankees, but lets face facts, their history in college football is as great as anyones and their record over the past eight years is downright impressive.

Just look at their out of conference record since 2002.. including bowl games it is a ridiculous 34-1. I count not a single Division II opponent and the vast majority are good programs from major conferences.. here is a list of who they have beaten during this span.

Auburn (2)
Colorado
Notre Dame (8)
Kansas State
Iowa
BYU (2)
Hawaii (2)
Michigan (2)
Virginia Tech
Colorado State
Oklahoma
Arkansas (2)
Fresno State
Nebraska
Idaho
Illinois
Virginia
Ohio State (2)
Penn State
San Jose State
Boston College

Compare this out of conference scheduling and record to any other major program and it isn’t even close… that is amazing in my opinion.

Steve

July 28th, 2010
1:03 pm

It’s all Bush’s fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't hate

July 28th, 2010
1:04 pm

AU had it’s chance against USC and got smashed at home (opening game too) 0-24!

Cracker Jacket

July 28th, 2010
1:05 pm

Is that a picture of Mighty Louse? Maybe Kiffin can go on the View and hope to find some support too!!

oh my god

July 28th, 2010
1:07 pm

then Auburn opens up in 2005 at home vs GA Tech with Reggie Ball and guess who won? YELLOW JACKETS some Auburn team that was, they sux

LameWho?

July 28th, 2010
1:13 pm

Everytime I see an article on Lame (sorry Lane) Kiffin, I expected to read something that he has done extraordinary in his football past why people feel he is such a top-rated coach. Who the hell is this cherry?

Coqueta

July 28th, 2010
1:16 pm

Oh my goodness, look!

Red panties are falling from the sky!!!

Bartender Gimme Another One Dawg

July 28th, 2010
1:20 pm

I remember why so many people hate Kiffen. He beat the Dawgs 45-19 ( !! ) , should have beaten Bammer and he wasn’t a Good Ol’ Boy. I imagine if he’d stuck around, he’d be beating the hell out of most of you. Pretty much the same as Spurrier when he was at Florida.

Jonese

July 28th, 2010
1:22 pm

Any SEC homer that wants to give Auburn the title on a pro agent tampering scandal, feel free. A collective sigh was heard across the Plains’ when they got to avoid playing USC at the end of that season. You might recall 18 months before when USC came to Auburn and gave them a 23-0 beat down that was nowhere near as close as the final score would lead you to believe.

Auburn Man

July 28th, 2010
1:22 pm

No thanks. Not interested in a slightly used crystal trophy. We didn’t win it on the field and it would be an embarrassment to act as if we did. Let bygones be bygones, isn’t that the old saying. I feel for the guys of the 04 Tigers but they have moved on and so have I. I’m looking forward to the 2010 season not trying to rehash days gone by.

Who did they play?

July 28th, 2010
1:23 pm

Who did Auburn destroy in the Sugar Bowl. Hey “oh my god” I am pretty sure Mr C. Williams went to the NFL right after he was done running through that undefeated season. I imagine most of the Starters on that team either graduated or went to the NFL. Had you played them a year earlier they would have put 50 on you and you know it. Good luck beating south carolina state with your weak schedule you little bugs….

SKB

July 28th, 2010
1:28 pm

Neither GAtech or UGA will get ranked this season.
GaTech 2009 title was a fluke, they blow.. they lost to UGA at their worst season

UGA on the other hand, will get all their players arrested. thUGA what do you expect?

Florida and Alabama in the championship as always

Auburn Man

July 28th, 2010
1:30 pm

@ SO CAL FAN Who else did Auburn beat in 04. Games in 02 and 03 don’t count when discussing the 04 season. Southern Cal would never have make it thru the SEC in 04. You can’t make your living eating cupcakes from the Crap 10 and then get the best of every SEC you play. SC lives a sheltered life playing teams like Cal, Arizona, Stanford and even less impressive teams that don’t end up in the top 25. SC is a big fish in a small pond.

larry

July 28th, 2010
1:32 pm

Auburn Man

Citadel, La Tech & La Monroe

Jack G.

July 28th, 2010
1:38 pm

Our Father who art in Heaven “harold” be his name

Bartender Gimme Another One Dawg

July 28th, 2010
1:39 pm

Auburn Man, So Cal has made a living off of SEC teams lately. They beat you home-and-home, and the one at Auburn was embarrassing. But worse, they put 70 on Arkansas one year and 50-something the next. I’d take SC heads up over virtually ANY SEC team most times. Of course, we’re not likely to find out, because most SEC teams won’t schedule somebody like them. So, hats off to you and Arky. At least you had guts enough to schedule them.

gatorman770

July 28th, 2010
1:39 pm

Why would anyone put a dildo like that on their media guide?

I agree with the dawgster’s 11:03 am comment
“First of all i think that the title will just be listed as vacated…But a case can be made for Au or Ok to be the National Champion” but also think the original BCS buster undefeated Utah Utes should be in the conversation.

Stephen

July 28th, 2010
1:47 pm

KIFFIN’S THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN SPORTS.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
1:49 pm

bartendender give me another one,

We’ll gladly take on USC. We’ve played them a couple home and home series and in a bowl. We lead the series 5-2 and spanked USC last time we played them in a bowl in the late 80s 24-3. Bring it!

PTC DAWG

July 28th, 2010
1:49 pm

WGAS?

PTC DAWG

July 28th, 2010
1:50 pm

I’ll add that I don’t think USC has EVER beaten an SEC team that won more than 8 games in the year that USC played them.

tim

July 28th, 2010
1:58 pm

Auburn without a doubt deserves this. They went undefeated in the SEC and won the SEC Championship and Sugar Bowl. Yeah they did play Citadel and La-Monroe, but they also beat Miss St, Arkansas, Kentucky, Georgia, LSU ,Bama, Ole Miss, and Tennesse (twice). Oh yeah, and VT in Sugar Bowl. What a joke. They would have beat USC and without a doubt would have dominated Oklahoma. Auburn was by far the best team in the country.

Arlo

July 28th, 2010
2:00 pm

If USC vacates the win and it goes to Oklahoma, then OU is undefeated, played in the title game & gets the Crystal Ball! Although that is not how OU usually gets their National Championships, they usually earn them. Compare Auburn’s SOS with Oklahoma’s SOS that year and you will see who should get the NC if they are re-issuing it.

ADL

July 28th, 2010
2:05 pm

Tide Rising…you can thank USC and Sam Cunningham for kicking your segregated asses into the modern era back in 1972.

DawgDad

July 28th, 2010
2:05 pm

I say vacate the 2004 title but don’t award it to anyone. Agree you can’t go back in time and properly square things with Auburn players and fans, and NCAA football fans in general. Put a big blight mark in the record book on 2004 to remind people of the stain on the sport left by blatant cheating and the ridiculously corrupt BCS selection process. Kind of like what no 1994 World Series does for MLB.

AUTigress

July 28th, 2010
2:07 pm

I am an Auburn grad and I DON’T feel that we should “pull a Bama” and claim a championship that isn’t really ours. It sucks that we were left out, but it is time to let it go. You can’t move forward if you are looking behind.

Kerryb

July 28th, 2010
2:18 pm

Jeff, I don’t know why you and other people that make this comment don’t get this. I by no means am an O.J. defender but, O.J. Simpson won his Heisman trophy as an eligible player for USC. What he did after that does not change what he did that year in football. Claim the trophy but, I would agree about is don’t make it a front and center piece of your trophy case. On the other hand Reggie Bush won his trophy as an ineligible player for USC. I think the Heisman Trust would have every right to take that trophy away. I think if USC has to vacate wins for that year then why should they be able to claim 11 NC. You should recognize the #2 team who was also undefeated as the champion for that year.

Arlo

July 28th, 2010
2:19 pm

I would argue that Auburn has already “Pulled a Bama”… Auburn’s football program was placed on probation by the NCAA in May 1956 and banned from postseason play in 1956 and 1957.
The Tigers were awarded the AP National Championship in 1957—even though they were not eligible to play in a postseason bowl that year. Isn’t that the ONLY NC Auburn officially recognizes?

Wo Fat

July 28th, 2010
2:19 pm

Is Kiffin really Montes’ offspring…if so, Monte should be slapped for having sired and spoiled this turd.

Truth Hurts

July 28th, 2010
2:20 pm

For the record, if a win is vacated, that game disappears from the historical records for that team. The LOSS suffered by the other team does NOT disappear in the record books. With the vacated win – Oklahoma still has a 12-1 record, Auburn has a 13-0 record.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:24 pm

“there is a movement afoot to appease Auburn in its national title claim for the 2004 season.”

APPEASE????????????????????????? Most Auburn fans/alum have let it go. We’re just laughing at the BCS and the fact that USC cheated and tried to cover up their star player.

SEC FAN

July 28th, 2010
2:27 pm

Oklahoma did go undefeted in the regular season; however they lost the Big 12 Championship game to Kansas State; Auburn went undefeated in the regular and beat Tenesssee by 10 in the SEC championship game, WHY THEN! was Oklahoma even in the BCS championship game to begin with? Blame ESPN!

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:28 pm

“I dont see how Auburn deserves it over them.”

Geez, more stupidity from idiots.

Ok, here are the stats

Auburn played and beat 5 top 25 teams. One of those teams twice.

Auburn set an all-time ALL-TIME NFL recruiting record that season.

Auburn had a tougher strength of schedule than both USC and Oklahoma.

Oklahoma played ONE ranked team the entire season..

Nuff said.

Criminal Terds

July 28th, 2010
2:29 pm

Arlo – “pulling a Bama” means adding titles decades after the fact when so no name geologist creates his own ranking system and retroactively awards titles. Alabama didn’t recognize many of their so-called thirteen titles until the 1980s when some schmuck saw some useless polls that had UAT at #1.

The AP, arguably one of the main services that names a national champion, named Auburn the national champion in 1957. How is that pulling a Bama.

THIS is the definition of “pulling a Bama.” The 1941 national championship is a fairy tale. Alabama (9-2) had lost to Mississippi State (SEC champs) and Vanderbilt. The Tide finished ranked 20th in the Associate Press Poll, behind four SEC teams.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:31 pm

“The reason they didn’t play for it was the weak schedule they played.”

You gals over in Tuscaloser played several crap teams.

Ga State anyone?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:34 pm

“Compare Auburn’s SOS with Oklahoma’s SOS that year and you will see who should get the NC if they are re-issuing it.”

2004 SOS rankings.

From NCAA: Texas A&M was #1, followed by North Carolina, Arizona, Arizona State, and Auburn. Where did the BCS title game teams rank? Oklahoma’s schedule was ranked 11th and USC’s was 18th.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:36 pm

“Oklahoma did go undefeted in the regular season; however they lost the Big 12 Championship game to Kansas State”

?????????????????????????????????????????

Oklahoma played and beat Colorado in the Big 12 Championship.

Guest

July 28th, 2010
2:36 pm

UGA folks can brag all you want to about beating Tech in football most years, and that’s perfectly fair. What’s also fair is to point out that with a history of Jan Kemp (Vince Dooley days), Jim Harrick, and now Damon Evans, the UGA Athletic Department is truly “The Cesspool of the South,” and is richly deserving of that title. No one outside of Georgia has any respect for your University or your Athletic Department, and that is a fact. It has been said many times: “Tech people are proud of their school, Georgia peoUGA folks can brag all you want to about beating Tech in football most years, and that’s perfectly fair. What’s also fair is to point out that with a history of Jan Kemp (Vince Dooley days), Jim Harrick, and now Damon Evans, the UGA Athletic Department is truly “The Cesspool of the South,” and is richly deserving of that title. No one outside of Georgia has any respect for your University or your Athletic Department, and that is a fact. It has been said many times: “Tech people are proud of their school, Georgia people are proud of their football team.” What a legacy to be proud of!

UGA fans can now return to your mobile home parks and resume waiting for your unemployment checks.

And watching those red panties falling from the sky, always a good time-killer for thUGA morons. :-) :-) :-)

Tommy

July 28th, 2010
2:47 pm

Tuberville won six straight against the farm boys from Tuscaloser.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:48 pm

“Citadel, La Tech & La Monroe”

Bama and Florida played those teams, too.

Greensboro, GA

July 28th, 2010
2:49 pm

**********************
Nesbitt for Heisman
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wxwax

July 28th, 2010
2:51 pm

I like the irony about OJ and Bush, that’s a good one.

As for the Kiffin bashing, I guess that’s the columnist’s easy out on a slow day for, oh, the next decade or so?

Let’s see: LeBron’s a narcissist, Kiffin’s a creep, A-Rod’s unloved. Am I missing any of the current hackneyed, cliched sports narratives that columnists rely upon?

ps An estimated 160 million people consumed World Cup information on ESPN’s platforms in the United States. Yup, soccer’s dead here all right.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
2:53 pm

I wonder if Florida and UGA will ever go undefeated…….

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
2:58 pm

Don’t let the envy eat you up mr guest. And really beating Tech in football is nothing to brag about.

Old Dawg

July 28th, 2010
2:58 pm

Lane Kiffin is taking the game of college football to the level of professional wrestling. Or am I being to harsh on wrestling?

kiffin basher

July 28th, 2010
2:59 pm

11 national championships, 31 bowl victories, 6 Heisman winners, 156 first-team All-Americans and 437 NFL players,watching USC crumble under Kiffin…. PRICELESS!

Go DAWGS! 30-24

Criminal Terds

July 28th, 2010
2:59 pm

What I don’t understand is why people claim Auburn would have lost to USC because they lost the previous two years. By that reasoning, Alabama should be awarded the 2010 National Championship as well – they already beat most everyone on their schedule. Why even play the games. Just base everything off of last year’s scores. Auburn changed offensive coordinators between 2003 and 2004. They went from Hugh Nall’s “Jump in the middle of the pile and see if you can’t get two yards” philosophy to Al Borges’ wide open offense. Auburn immediately went from having an anemic offense to one that could score at will. 34 points at #10 Tennessee, 38 against Arkansas, 42 against Kentucky, 35 at Ole Miss, 24 vs #8 Georgia, 38 against #15 Tennessee.

And for those whining about Auburn playing La Monroe, Citadel and La Tech – look at your own schedules. Everybody plays cupcakes. The two Louisiana schools (both of who have beaten Alabama recently – La Tech several times) were scheduled for a long time. Citadel was a last minute replacement for Bowling Green, who took more money to go play Oklahoma and left us scrambling to find an opponent.

Pete Carroll

July 28th, 2010
3:01 pm

I wash my hands of this whole situation down in SoCal. Oooh look it’s raining again! I can stick my hands out the window and wash them.

joe

July 28th, 2010
3:02 pm

Lane forgot one stat…38 times placed on probation (or whatever the real # is)…

Old Dawg

July 28th, 2010
3:05 pm

Guest: Sure, UGA has had its fair share of problems. Just remember that many other schools have had similar issues. Tennessee has the Fulmer Cup. Tech and all those players receiving unearned academic credits. Alabama with its probations and coaching changes. Auburn and the midnight ride to Louisville. Florida and its probations in the past, including paying players’ girlfriends for abortions. BYU and its year of missions for players, who end up being in their mid-20s by the time they graduate. The list goes on and on.

So, what have you done useful to society recently?

kiffin basher

July 28th, 2010
3:06 pm

Give Auburn the NC.

On the kiffer…. look at this track record….Raiders depleted! Tennessee depleted!…. now USC in the process of being depleted.

What in the world do these Ath. Directors see in him? An opportunity to clean house and start from bottom?

I guess it is getting ole Monte with the package?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:08 pm

Criminal Terds

FINALLY! Someone comes along and provides common sense to the brain dead bloggers.

“What I don’t understand is why people claim Auburn would have lost to USC because they lost the previous two years.”

Alabama lost to Auburn SIX years in a row. If you use the logic of the idiots spewing the USC beat AU two years in a row, then Bama has yet to beat Auburn.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:09 pm

“Give Auburn the NC.”

It would be awesome if Auburn was given the award and when they were handed the trophy, Chizek and the players took and threw it in a dumpster as a F U to the BCS and USC.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
3:20 pm

If you gave it to Auburn Cam Newton would scratch the old name off and then throw it in the trash.

76-Dawg

July 28th, 2010
3:21 pm

As much as I hate Auburn they beat the hell out of a good UGA team in 2004 and they deserve any recognition they can get even if it is 6 year too late.

Reuben Houston

July 28th, 2010
3:22 pm

Hey, Guest, let’s just let bygones be bygones, okay?

The Doctor

July 28th, 2010
3:24 pm

“Citadel, La Tech & La Monroe”

Last year’s NC Bama played Fla International, North Texas and Tenn-Chattanooga.

And USC had 6 opponents under .500 in 2004.

The path to the NC is littered with wins over creampuffs.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:29 pm

“The path to the NC is littered with wins over creampuffs.”

The only people who scream about OOC games are the Pac-10. Everyone knows that the SEC has a hard enough time beating up on each other.

It’s interesting how the PAC-10 has ONE school with a football national title in 30 years. SEC- 5 not counting 2004 Auburn.

Bama, Bama, TN, LSU, LSU, FL, FL, FL, UGA

Hockey Steve

July 28th, 2010
3:36 pm

Auburn was the best team in the nation that year and would have taken USC out to the woodshed. They deserve the title.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
3:37 pm

ADL,

True enough. USC kicking our butts in 1972 didn’t just bring Alabama into the modern era. It brought the whole deep south into the modern era. Several books were written about the importance of this one game. But you should remember that we returned the favor and beat USC the next year in LA.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:40 pm

“But you should remember that we returned the favor and beat USC the next year in LA.”

No one cares.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
3:48 pm

Criminal Terds at 2:29,

Trying to revise a little history there buddy? You’ve got a point about one national title that Bama claims that being the 1941 title. So what. Throw it out.

Bama officially counts 13 ncs while the ncaa media guide credits us with 17 going by any poll. If you go by the most usual standard which is by one of the 2 major polls since 1936(AP and coaches poll) we have 8 legit titles(tied with ND). Going by this standard USC has 7 including the one in question and not the 11 that USC prints on that media guide featurning Kiffin. Likewise Michigan claims 11 national titles but only 2 in the modern era going by the 2 legitimate polls the AP and coaches poll since 1936.

Bama’s other titles include 1925, 1930, and 1934 saw 3 Bama teams go 10-0 and win the Rose bowl the defacto national title game at the time. Those 3 are very legit mythical titles even if they are mythical and or retroactive. No one was better in those 3 years and any objective person looking at those seasons would agree. Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t make these 3 titles any less legitimate. Show me who else went unbeaten, untied, and won the biggest bowl of the day in these 3 years.

1926 Bama team was unbeaten and tied the other top team in the land Stanford in the Rose Bowl. A split title is certainly warranted there also but I’ll chose not to include it just so you won’t complain. But when you consider our team played on hostile ground and took a 5 day cross country train ride to get there I think a split title is not unreasonable.

Bottom line is that we have 8 recognized titles by one of the 2 major polls since 1936, 11 totally legit titles throwing out 1941 and 1926, and this doesn’t include 2 unbeaten, untied Bama teams in 1945 10-0 and 1966 11-0 that weren’t awarded ncs.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
3:50 pm

Its a shame,

No one cares? Then you need not reply.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
3:53 pm

Its a shame,

The Pac 10 has one team that has won a national title in the previous 30 years? You forgetting about Washington which claims a split title in the year 1991 I believe?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:58 pm

“You forgetting about Washington which claims a split title in the year 1991 I believe?”

Split being the key word there, Tide.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
3:59 pm

“Then you need not reply.”

But I did.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:00 pm

“Trying to revise a little history there buddy?’

No, that’s what the hillbillies of Tuscaloser do. Everyone else is too busy making fun of you guys.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 28th, 2010
4:01 pm

POAD, now that Cameron comment was funny.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:02 pm

Its a shame,

Split titles still count. The system wasn’t perfect back then and there’s no problem with 2 deserving teams splitting the title sometimes when there was no way they could settle it on the field.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:03 pm

Its a shame,

True comedy is when an AU fan says Tuscaloser to an Alabama fan coming off a BCS championship and 14-0 season. Now THAT is funny.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:07 pm

“Split titles still count.”

Never said they didn’t.

“The system wasn’t perfect back then and there’s no problem with 2 deserving teams splitting the title sometimes when there was no way they could settle it on the field.”

Yeah, if said team isn’t Auburn, right……..

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:09 pm

“True comedy is when an AU fan says Tuscaloser to an Alabama fan coming off a BCS championship and 14-0 season.”

No, true comedy is having Bama people make fun of Auburn people when both schools are in one of the poorest, crappiest states in the union.

As far as your 14-0 season goes, yeah great, good for you. But guess what, this isn’t a blog about Bama.

Auburn's Colonel Jeb

July 28th, 2010
4:09 pm

No one at Auburn is crying. If they give it to Auburn so be it. It’s their decision, not ours. That being said, Auburn deserved that trophy as much as anyone else did. Tommy T said he’d bring a national championship to Auburn and in my opinion, he delivered. War Damn Eagle!!!

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:10 pm

Tide Rising

If Bama was left out of a national title game while going undefeated, you’d be screaming bloody murder from the trailer parks.

Auburn's Colonel Jeb

July 28th, 2010
4:11 pm

For the record, Miss Shame, there is one difference between Alabama and Georgia. It’s Atlanta. Beyond that, they’re exactly the same. When you say crappy, you come away with crap on your lips. Do you like that?

Auburn's Colonel Jeb

July 28th, 2010
4:12 pm

Bama may have a winning football team, but their fans are true Tuscaloozers.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:13 pm

“When you say crappy, you come away with crap on your lips. Do you like that?”

Guess it’s better than what’s on your lips, ma’am. Grab a towel, you’ve got some white stuff on your face….

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:13 pm

Its a shame,

AU could get a split if the voters truly thought they deserved a split. In light of USC’s total destruction of OU 55-19 and Auburn’s struggle past VT 16-13 the voters unanimously considered USC the best team in both polls. AU had a fine team that year but who could really blame them the voters for giving both polls to USC? Also, it may be faulty logic to bring into play AU’s 2 losses to USC the previous 2 years but right or wrong that factored into the voter’s thinking to a small degree I’m sure.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:17 pm

“AU could get a split if the voters truly thought they deserved a split.”

AU had a tougher schedule than OU.

“Auburn’s struggle past VT”

USC struggled against the same team and they weren’t even ranked when they played them.

“voters unanimously considered USC the best team in both polls.”

Yeah, but in case you missed it, USC cheated and had it stripped from them.

“AU had a fine team that year but who could really blame them the voters for giving both polls to USC?”

Yeah, who could blame them for giving it to a school that cheats. CHEAT ON!!!!!

“Also, it may be faulty logic to bring into play AU’s 2 losses to USC the previous 2 years but right or wrong that factored into the voter’s thinking to a small degree I’m sure.”

LOL! With that logic, Bama should have never gone to the National Title game because they got their @sses handed to them six years in a row by Auburn.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:18 pm

It’s a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:10 pm
Tide Rising

“If Bama was left out of a national title game while going undefeated, you’d be screaming bloody murder from the trailer parks.”

Having traveled all over Georgia on business I can personally assure you that Alabama doesn’t have anything on Georgia in terms of numbers of trailers. If you don’t know that then you’ve probably never left your own single wide.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:20 pm

“Having traveled all over Georgia on business I can personally assure you that Alabama doesn’t have anything on Georgia in terms of numbers of trailers. ”

Well, I guess meth dealers like yourself do have to travel for sales every now and again.

“If you don’t know that then you’ve probably never left your own single wide.”

Well yeah, I had to come over to collect rent from you. Duh!!!!

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:21 pm

“LOL! With that logic, Bama should have never gone to the National Title game because they got their @sses handed to them six years in a row by Auburn.”

As I said not my logic. Just saying what was in the backs of minds of some voters I’m sure. But since we’re bringing up streaks I thought I would educate you and let you know the longest winning streak in the series is Alabama winning 9 in a row. Currently we have our own little streak working in case you haven’t noticed.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:22 pm

Its a shame,

Meth dealer? Not really. I’m actually a pimp. BTW, I’m sending your mama and sisters back home to ya. They’re used up.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:27 pm

“But since we’re bringing up streaks I thought I would educate you and let you know the longest winning streak in the series is Alabama winning 9 in a row. ”

Yeah, back in the 60s or 70s. Yaaaaaaaaaawn.

“Currently we have our own little streak working in case you haven’t noticed.”

Two is a streak?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:27 pm

“BTW, I’m sending your mama and sisters back home to ya. They’re used up.”

Guess that’s the best a Bama fan can come up with.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:29 pm

“Just saying what was in the backs of minds of some voters I’m sure.”

Yeah, most of them were drinking the Pete Carrol kool aid. I remember when Lee Corso was screaming bloody murder when OU got in. Said that they played high school teams the entire season. Buy hey, so did USC.

Les W. Moore

July 28th, 2010
4:31 pm

I remember when Kiffin was hired and Obama won the election. I thought both were too inexperienced for their respective roles. Given the past 18 months, I’m now convienced of it.

Tide Rising

July 28th, 2010
4:34 pm

Its a shame,

Its been fun but I’m outta here. Just remember- U R my beyotch. You’re the guy that didn’t show up for a face to face conversation last month when I called you out. Yeah. I remember your punk coward noshow azz now. Have fun and keep hiding behind the keyboard.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:34 pm

“Given the past 18 months, I’m now convienced of it.”

Yeah, but at least Kiffin has actually held a real job. Obama not so much.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
4:35 pm

“Just remember- U R my beyotch.”

No, Tide, I’m not your sister.

“You’re the guy that didn’t show up for a face to face conversation last month when I called you out. ”

????????? You’re either insane or dementia has set in.

“Yeah. I remember your punk coward noshow azz now. ”

Guess all the inbreeding really screwed up what little brain cells you had.

rogeriter

July 28th, 2010
4:52 pm

If you are going to take away USC’s title–which I think should be done–you should also declare Barry Bonds, Mark McGiure’s, Sammy Sosa’s and Alex Rodriquez’s home runs null and void. They cheated too. Roger Maris and Hank Aaron are the true home run champs.

That's Mister Desperation to you

July 28th, 2010
4:54 pm

If Karen Sypher came around asking for it, even today, I’d probably have to oblige her. Just like Damon couldn’t resist Courtney.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
5:02 pm

Auburn was better than both USC and Oklahoma that year…and I hope they get what they earned and deserved….a National Championship for the Tigers and another one for the almighty SEC!!!

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
5:05 pm

…..and just for the record….the Georgia team that beat Florida and then Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl…was the best team in the country that year…and should have played for the NC….they would have won over anyone they played at the end of that year. That was one really good football team….and “Willy” coached and had a really great defense that year.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:15 pm

“.the Georgia team that beat Florida and then Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl…was the best team in the country that year…and should have played for the NC”

They didn’t win their division and they didn’t win the SEC.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:15 pm

“If you are going to take away USC’s title–which I think should be done–you should also declare Barry Bonds, Mark McGiure’s, Sammy Sosa’s and Alex Rodriquez’s home runs null and void. They cheated too. Roger Maris and Hank Aaron are the true home run champs.”

Yep, I agree with that 100%.

yer daddy

July 28th, 2010
5:20 pm

Alabama’s goal at the beginning of each season is to; a) win the SEC, and b) win the NC. Auburn’ goal at the beginning of each season is to beat Alabama…

’nuff said about that

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:27 pm

Alabama’s goal at the beginning of each season is to a) not get caught paying the players, and b) lick Nick Sabans butt crack. Auburn’s goal is mock the utter stupidity of inbreds who attend bama football games and pretend to be students.

nuff said about that

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
5:30 pm

Obama is probably way too intelligent and logical to be President of the United States….(I was actually sitting in a place having coffee this morning and heard a person refer to the President as a certain kind of animal…amazing….when you consider the guy making the reference had a brain less intelligent that the animal he mentioning in association with the President of the United States) But…whatever kind of President he currently is….Obama is far better than the guy who occupied the White House the 8 years before him. But the ex-Gov of Michigan (Romney) would have made the best President….but he is “non electable” because he practices a weird religion called Mormonism….and that has to make me wonder just how smart Romney truly is (and I think he is very smart and qualified to be President). Not that mormons are bad people….but to give up the White House for it…and what he actually could accomplish….no way! He is an intelligent right to middle thinker…and a proven, effective manager….and that is what we need….more centralist points of view (and what we got actually got during the prosperous Clinton years…along with his playful, male nature…..and we need more of that kind of centalist thinking in both parties….and less extremism in both…and maybe something good could actually get done in Washington.

….also….I was having coffee in a local spot this morning and this guy across from me referred to the President of the United States….who holds a law degree from Harvard and served on the Harvard Law Review….as a certain type of animal. I thought it was funny because the guy who said it had far less brains than the animal he associated with the President. It is sometimes scary to sit and listen to my fellow Americans…and to know that so many of us do not think or reason above a sixth grade level.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
5:34 pm

It’s a shame….

That Georgia team was still the best team in the land at the end of that year…and the perfect example why college football needs a playoff system that is fair to a expanded group of elite teams. Georgia would have rolled through the playoffs that year…against anyone. They were extremely talented…and hitting on all cycles at bowl time.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
5:35 pm

Sorry about the double comment about having coffee this morning in my Obama/politcal post….actually…..I am sorry I made the post…period. Sometimes I just get ticked off about what is happening to America.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:37 pm

“It is sometimes scary to sit and listen to my fellow Americans…and to know that so many of us do not think or reason above a sixth grade level.”

Well yeah, you have the IQ of a carrot. As for Obama, if he’s so smart, how come every decision he, I mean his teleprompter makes, is a disaster?

Where are all the jobs your cult leader promised in 08?

Oh, and since you talk about his intelligence, Harvard has never released his grades. John Kerry used to talk about how smart he was until his grades were released. Guess what, he made D’s in every single class.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:37 pm

“That Georgia team was still the best team in the land at the end of that year”

No, LSU was. They have the trophy to show for it. Sucks to be you.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:38 pm

“Sorry about the double comment”

Well yeah, just shows that you didn’t have the intelligence to understand your mistake.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
5:39 pm

Lane hasn’t won enough football games to even get JOCK ITCH.

Gen Neyland

July 28th, 2010
5:40 pm

The photo of Kiffin. What a hoot. Looks like he’s giving it his best Patton impersonation. All he needs is a couple of pearl gripped pistols or a riding whip with a polished steel bucket upon his crown… Go get ‘em Kif. Make USC pay for their errant ways..!

POAD

July 28th, 2010
5:41 pm

Shame Dawg: but UGA didn’t get to play in the SEC cahmpionship game to prove how great they were. Oh wait they weren’t good enough to win the SEC EAST to play in the SECCG. Now I get it. I guess it is too hard for UGA fans to understand that.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:43 pm

POAD

You must be getting me mixed up with TampanDog. I’m not a UGA fan.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
5:44 pm

Kerry married very very well and Obama became more Africam American than white. That is the true story of both of those men. Bush was born with a name and that is the truth too.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
5:47 pm

Shame I know that is why I tried to back you LSU play. Maybe it came out wrong, but UGA fans thought they were the best but couldn’t play for the SECCG as the East rep. and then they played Hawaii. AHHAHAHA Hawaii. I am not a dawg fan either. that is why my name is P i $ $ on a Dawg.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:50 pm

“Obama became more Africam American than white.”

Actually, he’s more of a girl. He wears mom jeans and throws a baseball like a girl. Wait, I take that back, most girls can actually throw a baseball to home plate.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
5:51 pm

“that is why my name is P i $ $ on a Dawg.”

Oh, I thought it meant Poor Ox And Donkey.

82Dawg

July 28th, 2010
5:54 pm

POAD…UGA did not choose to play Hawaii that is who the BCS put in the Sugar Bowl. Not sure why you think it is so funny……..

82Dawg

July 28th, 2010
5:56 pm

POAD …..UGA did not choose Hawaii, that is who the BCS put in the Sugar Bowl against them…why is that so funny?

ChipperDoodle

July 28th, 2010
6:27 pm

Finally. Someone said it in print. USC sends back a cheater’s trophy but not the murderer/gangster/basher’s trophy. It sits proudly on display. This is lunacy, any way you view it. I have never understood why O.J. Simpson’s name was not erased from every record book in the world. Good grief. What do you mean, allegedly.

SuperB

July 28th, 2010
6:35 pm

Giving Auburn the ‘04 title in 2010 is ridiculous! Auburn wasn’t the first team to be snubbed. Georgia received the same snub in the late ’40’s and there are others too.

mike

July 28th, 2010
9:10 pm

Auburn getting awarded this National Championship is more legit than a number of Alabama’s “so-called” national championships. Just google it if you don’t know what I mean.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
9:14 pm

It’s a shame…..

your posts easily prove my point about the 6th grade point….

For your knowlege….YOU CAN’T GET INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL UNLESS YOU GRADUATE IN THE TOP PERCENTILE OF YOUR UNDERGRADUATE STUDIES…AND FROM ONE OF THE TOP SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY….WHICH OBAMA DID (or you have strong family ties like being the son of a very rich person and you can have grades made not earned in school…and I don’t think that was the case with Mr. Obama)…AND YOU DON’T GET ON THE HARWARD LAW REVIEW (do you even know what that is)…..UNLESS YOU AND ONE OF THE BEST STUDENTS OF LAW….GRADUATE AT THE TOP OF YOUR CLASS….AND HAVE SHOWN LEADERSHIP AND KNOWLEDGE IN THE FIELD OF LAW.

….and dude….my double comment has nothing to do with my intelligence…believe me. It had more to do with rewriting an angry post to make it less angry and forgeting where the editing started and stopped. But you would have to know what intelligence is to understand that doing such a thing has nothing to do with intelligence.

Now….your turn to lecture me with a sixth grade type post.

Sorry….but you really p _ _ _ _ _ me off!

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
9:28 pm

POAD….

exactly how did Obama become more African-American than white? His father is from Africa and his mother is a white American who was from Hawaii. That means….if you understand math….he is 50% of both. You can’t become more of one than the other. However, the gentic sequencing that he had no control over did give him a largely African-American physical appearance. Now….if you had said that both African-Americans and white Americans saw him as a just an African-American running for President and a majority (I know, not in the highly progressive confederate states of Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Alabama…where the acceptable black man is still mostly just a prized football recruit…just being honest and real folks)….did see him that way and voted for him as such….then your point would be better made and understood….and actually accurate. Most importantly, I believe Mr. Obama….at some time in his life as a mixed raced person…decided to see and represent himself as a black man….married a African-American woman….and is raising…in his eyes…African-American children. But you know….when I voted for him out of frustration of 8 previous years of incompetence in the White House….I did not vote for him as a black man or a white man. I voted for him because McCain was a totally ineffective candidate….and therefore would have been such as President…and because he stupidly select Palin as his VP candidate…although Obama’s selection was nearly as bad.

MikeP

July 28th, 2010
9:29 pm

D Fence

July 28th, 2010
10:02 am

“If they do it….its just another reason for Bama to make fun of Auburn. Havent you guys had enough already of that?”

With all the bogus NC claims the bamzos have, they will think nothing of this. A school that claims a NC in a year (1941) in which they finished 3rd in the SEC would be proud to claim this one. At least Auburn was undefeated in ‘04.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
9:36 pm

“YOU CAN’T GET INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL UNLESS YOU GRADUATE IN THE TOP PERCENTILE”

You can if you have a certain skin color.

“my double comment has nothing to do with my intelligence”

No kidding, your intelligence is much lower.

“Now….your turn to lecture me with a sixth grade type post. ”

For one, your grammar sucks.

“Sorry….but you really p _ _ _ _ _ me off!”

Oh, too afraid to spell it?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
9:37 pm

“although Obama’s selection was nearly as bad.”

If Obama is so smart why are his poll numbers in the tank?

Where are all the jobs he promised?

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 28th, 2010
9:38 pm

“At least Auburn was undefeated in ‘04.”

And they didn’t have to cheat like USC.

hind tit

July 28th, 2010
10:31 pm

would auburn have to pay Tommy T a bonus if it was in his contract with auburn. just wondering.

Susie

July 28th, 2010
10:44 pm

Last time for today: look at those red panties falling from the sky!

Adios, UGAyers. Hold down the fort at the Cesspool of the South.

And keep those ankle bracelet monitors charged, y’all heah.

POAD

July 28th, 2010
10:53 pm

If OBAMA came from a JEWISH womd he would be a Jew. Obama came from a white womb but looked black. obama Used being Black to further his political career.
I bet you ar going to watch obama on the great political show called THE VIEW. AHHAHAHA
Obama is a joke trying to ust the commusist play book to control the media and control the lowclass voters. If you can’t see that then then you need to turn your UGA TEACHERS degree and get SPADED or NUTERED.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
11:09 pm

POAD….I am going to fry your limited brain skills with this question….but I am going to ask it anyway……What if the mom was was African-American and the father was from Israel and Jewish…would he be African-American then intentially choose to be Jewish just to get elected to the Israel consecent (not sure of the spelling of the Israel governmental system)? Man…what cave did you recently crawl out of? Please crawl back into it.

Also…please give me the exact definition of “lowclass voters.” What exactly is a “lowclass voter.” I fully believe you just defined yourself without comprehending that you did.

JMac

July 28th, 2010
11:20 pm

This isn’t THE national championship, it’s just A national championship trophy and will not take away anything the AP awards. If this championship is awarded to Auburn, then so be it. Alabama has a number of goofy national titles it claims. There should be no double standard here. And if Auburn is not awarded the title, then so be it. Six years after the fact, it really shouldn’t matter and I guarantee you the Auburn coaches and players are really more concerned about what happens in 2010.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
11:21 pm

It’s a shame….

ask Bush and Chaney what happened to the jobs? When they took office employment was at a record high and so was the economy. And there was no deficit. Eight short years later….the U.S. was in shambles for Obama and his team to try and fix….which, thanks to Bush and friends, will probably be impossible to do. But, hey, elected Sara Palin…she is half as bright Bush….so I guess she can make things even worse for the next democratic President (and we can continue to repeat the cycle). Reagan’s theory of economics, like many great ideas, only works if the rich aren’t greedy and lust for power….but history teachers us that the rich…as a whole…are nothing but about greed and power. Making the rich richer so their wealth will drip down to the less rich and the poor is a great concept and economic theory…that in real world practice will never work because of the prementioned reason. As with Salin’s communist theory of everyone working as one for eutopia….it is only a good theory if the lust for power and control is not a part of human nature…which it is…and if a human being did not have a inner need to always better him or herself….which he and she does. Moderation is the answer to almost everything. It is too bad that right wing extremist (whomever they may be) and left wing extremist (whomever they may be)….and the rich and powerful….get in the way of you and I not eating a nurturing, balanced meal of what is right for everyone. But America is no longer about us…is it? It has become a nation of “ME” with capital letters….and the “ME” no longer cares about “YOU”.

Dave

July 28th, 2010
11:22 pm

USC Rob you know he killed them and I know he killed them…

Dave

July 28th, 2010
11:25 pm

TampaGator funny you didn’t mention any “leftwing extremist?” this is a sports blog in case you didn’t notice. Go post in the Tampa paper, I’m sure they’ll appreciate you more there.

GSU Eagle 91

July 28th, 2010
11:34 pm

Please spare us all from the thought of “giving” Auburn a NC…They had a lame out-of-conference schedule and that is why Oklahoma was chosen to play USC .
USC demolished Arkansas 70-17 that season and Auburn would have been stomped just as badly…
So no…A National Championship for Auburn is not possible here…

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
11:40 pm

Dave…if you read my post….I believe I said “whomever they may be” for both the right and left wing and I don’t believe I ever identified any individual or individuals or organizations as such….and why read the Tampa paper when I live during the week in Atlanta (for a little while longer anyway). The Tampa paper is a weekend read and does not have nearly as good a shorts reporter team as the AJC. But I do read the Gainesville Sun website daily…which does have excellent sports reporting like the AJC. I generally choose to read good writers who express their thinking well…and most of the AJC writers do that with professionalism and class….therefore I read.

Again…its a free country to post whatever you like and it is a free country to not read whatever you like. People generally read things that interest you. So why did you read my post? Just saying. There are 100 to 1 most sports comment posts as related to my post…which were directed to just the person mentioned at the top of the post.

TampaGator

July 28th, 2010
11:45 pm

…and Dave…was that 11:22 post sports related? NOPE! Do as I say…not as I do…hey?

SEC FAN>

July 29th, 2010
12:10 am

AU would have beat OU soundly, AU had 4 first rounders that year and had only one close game..LSU that year..they beat more ranked teams that year than USC and OU…

SEC FAN>

July 29th, 2010
12:14 am

It is funny reading fans of other schools saying AU should not be awarded NC, can you imagine if UGA went 13-0 that year, you guys would be pissed as well…13-0 does not come around often when you play in the SEC…what’s screwed up is watching a two loss LSU team win a MNC a couples of years ago with that dipchit Myles coaching…man college football is the best sport and the most f’d up as well.

POAD

July 29th, 2010
1:50 am

The Jewish WOMD is what it is! Read & learn. The black womb is dominated my the MALE Tribe that took the womb. The samething happened in the Native American tribes. If a Navaho took a Blackfoot then the child was a Navaho. That is not how the Jews and the Bible see it. The WOMB is your birth place and your heriatage no matter your color or religion.

Florida Dawg

July 29th, 2010
6:23 am

I would say whoever designed the front cover of USC’s media guide with Kiffin behind all those numbers may have worked at FOX News (cable). Just saying.

Jake

July 29th, 2010
6:27 am

AU USC
Wins 13 13
Losses 0 0
Winning Percentage 100.00% 100.00%
NCAA Strength of Schedule Ranking 5th 18th
Opponents Winning Percentage 61.15% 58.99%
Opponents Opponents Winning Percentage 55.11% 57.22%
Conference Opponents Winning Percentage 50.86% 48.91%
Conference’s Non-Conference Winning Percentage 66.67% 63.89%
Wins over Teams with 9+ Victories 5 4
Wins over Teams with 10+ Victories 4 3
Wins vs Top 10 (At Time of Game) 4 2
Wins vs Top 16 (At Time of Game) 5 3
Wins vs Final Top 10 2 3
Wins vs Final Top 16 5 3
Bowl Teams Played 5 6
Bowl Results of Bowl Teams Played 3-2 2-4

Bulldog59

July 29th, 2010
7:42 am

Unfortunately, Auburn lost out on this deal in 2004, changing it now (on paper only) is sort of pointless. So they are listed with the title and an asterisk?

Auburn will be the Gerald Ford of football, never elected VP or President, but served as both. Auburn never played for the National Title, or finished ranked #1, but got it years later. Unfortunate, they were hosed in 2004, but true.

But the BCS works and we don’t need some sort of playoff, right? Right? Yeah right. With the proper playoff, AU would have had their chance to prove it on the field and the SEC could have possibly added another National Title to the pile.

Great stats Jake, would love to see the same stats comparing Auburn and Oklahoma. Suspect, AU shows just as deserving in that breakdown.

82Dawg

July 29th, 2010
7:55 am

What does Obama heave to do with Auburn getting the title?Not Sure Auburn would really want it now…

War eagle

July 29th, 2010
8:09 am

Auburn should definitely get it. The year before they shut out the University of Southern California at home 23-0. http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?client=mv-google&xl=xl_blazer&v=gGbqLwbfu2M

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
8:24 am

“ask Bush and Chaney what happened to the jobs?”

I don’t have to, the retard in the White House got rid of them.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
8:25 am

“Auburn will be the Gerald Ford of football, never elected VP or President, but served as both.”

Well, I guess that makes UGA the Jimmy Carter of college football. Laughed at, stupid decisions….

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
8:27 am

“It is funny reading fans of other schools saying AU should not be awarded NC, can you imagine if UGA went 13-0 that year”

UGA hasn’t gone undefeated in over 30 years. The only fans who say no to Auburn getting a championship are the hillbillies of Tuscaloser and the Green Bay wannabe’s from Athens. Everyone else seems to be fine with it.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
8:59 am

“When they took office employment was at a record high and so was the economy. ”

No it wasn’t. A record low unemployment was 4.4% in 2006.

It’s 10% now which is 2% higher than what it was when Bush left office.

“But, hey, elected Sara Palin…she is half as bright Bush”

WTF does Palin have to do with anything?

Tampon, you’re not a bright dude are you.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
9:00 am

“I am going to fry your limited brain skills with this question”

Dumbest comment. Ever.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
9:03 am

“They had a lame out-of-conference schedule and that is why Oklahoma was chosen to play USC .”

So the OOC schedule determines who plays for a NC? News to me. USC has to play OOC games because the Shat-10 sucks. Oklahoma played ONE ranked team their entire season.

Auburn played and beat 5 top 25 teams. One of those teams twice.

Then again, you’re a GSU grad so we all understand how hard life is for you. Hey, did you get an STD at GSU? I hear GSU grads can’t graduate without one.

Falcons discussed bringing in Terrell Owens, Blank says | Jeff Schultz

July 29th, 2010
9:31 am

[...] ♦ Auburn may get an ‘04 ‘title’ yet (and who’s USC’s cover boy?) [...]

TampaGator

July 29th, 2010
10:01 am

It’s a shame….actually…..

…..under the Clinton-Core administration from 1993 to 2000, unemployment went down from 7.5% right after they took office to 3.9% near the end of their administration, which was the lowest unemployment rate in more than three decades.” I have no idea where you got your number…but I got mine from a .gov website on unemployment records.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
10:09 am

“right after they took office to 3.9% near the end of their administration”

You must get your “facts” from fantasyland, Tampon. The lowest rate under Clinton was 4.6%. The lowest under Bush was 4.4%.

“I have no idea where you got your number…but I got mine from a .gov website on unemployment records.”

Post the link.

AU

July 29th, 2010
10:16 am

USC Rob

July 28th, 2010
9:58 am
Jeff, in case you don’t remember OJ was found innocent in a court of law by a jury of his peers. No reason to make some terrible accusation that he “may have killed two people”……a crime that a judge and jury found him innocent of and totally cleared the charges.
=======================
Ah, I wondered where these people were? Living right here in ATL most likely. Yeah, OJ was innocent. He’s really a model citizen. How’s that hunt for the killer workin on the golf course OJ?

GT BABY

July 29th, 2010
10:17 am

….

GT BABY

July 29th, 2010
10:19 am

CONGRATS TO THE GEORGIA FANS…….Y’ALL ARE THE ONES THAT PUT OBAMA IN OFFICE! I HOPE YALL ARE REALLY PROUD OF YOUR SELFS AND ENJOY COLLECTING YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK EVERY WEEK. PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT FEELS TO BE WHITE TRASH FROM THE GHETTO?

GT BABY

July 29th, 2010
10:21 am

WHO EVER SAID OJ IS INNOCENT IS CLEARLY BLACK, JUST LIKE THE JURY THAT LET HIM GO. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND BLACK PEOPLE DO EVERYTHING FOR EACH OTHER, BUT ONCE WHITE PEOPLE START DOING IT, ITS RACIST….HMMMM

rogeriter

July 29th, 2010
10:23 am

This…no, these blogs have turned into a joke! We are suppose to comment on the upcoming season. Yet they have digressed into a forum on crime in schools and criticism of the academics, etc. of schools. Now we have discussions of things that belong on a political blog.
As far as the upcoming season is concerned, It doesn’t matter if Tech students are smarter, Florida won more National championships, USC cheated or Obama is a socialist! What matters is the upcoming season. Georgia will win at least 10 games which would be a great season for any school whether it produces a mythical NC or not!
Grow up kids!

USC’s Alternate Media Guide Cover » 3rd Saturday in Blogtober

July 29th, 2010
10:56 am

[...] USC recently unveiled their media guide cover for this season, but what they failed to mention is that just like Alabama, they created more than one. We happen to have a copy of the alternate version they didn’t release at Media Days. [H/T Ghost of Neyland] Days. Leave a Comment [...]

TampaGator

July 29th, 2010
12:23 pm

It’s a shame….

I could give you the web address and you would say….”The government records are controlled by the communist inspired liberals in congress.” I am done with two way with you. Some people are not worth having a concersation with…..but all you have to do is get on the internet and do a little research….just type in “unemployement records” and you will find the data for unemployment history for the Clinton administration….it is there for all to see…or, in your case, deny. You trying to say Bush was good for unemployment is like saying being consumed by a hungry bear is good for population control. There is a reason Clinton was ranked as the #5 president in history (by historical scholars (I know, all educators are communists) and GW was ranked 3rd from the bottom of all presidents….but you just keep on denying reality.

It's a shame what he did to that dog

July 29th, 2010
12:34 pm

“I am done with two way with you.”

Huh?

“but all you have to do is get on the internet and do a little research”

I did, and nowhere did it say that unemployment was 3.9% under Clinton.

“You trying to say Bush was good for unemployment is like saying being consumed by a hungry bear is good for population control.”

Your words, not mine.

“There is a reason Clinton was ranked as the #5 president in history ”

No, Reagan is number 5 all time. Not sure what fake poll you’re looking at.

“nd GW was ranked 3rd from the bottom of all presidents….but you just keep on denying reality.”

If W was so bad, why does Obama keep his policies around?

Gitmo-opened

Iraq War-ongoing

Afghanistan- ongoing

TampaGator

July 29th, 2010
3:23 pm

Oh well….

http://www.//clinton5nara.gov/wh/accomplishments/eightyears-01html

End of discussion.

Roy Oswalt going to Phillies, and Braves need to respond (UPDATED) | Jeff Schultz

July 29th, 2010
4:54 pm

[...] ♦ Auburn may get an ‘04 ‘title’ yet (and who’s USC’s cover boy?) [...]

Ed

July 29th, 2010
6:33 pm

Imagine the hype Kiffin will receive if one of his teams actually ends a season with a good won-loss record. It boggles the mind.

Ed

July 29th, 2010
7:05 pm

Simpson is entitled to the benefit of the doubt, and he has been found not guilty in a court of law. It’s entirely possible that someone else with Simpson’s DNA brutally slaughtered two people, including the ex-wife that he liked to stalk, then tracked the bloody evidence into Simpson’s SUV and back to Simpson’s house using Simpson’s shoes and gloves without drawing any attention to himself despite this person not being OJ and trampling all over OJ’s property. Happens all the time.

I guess Bush’s “crime” was causing USC to forfeit wins during its season of glory. In the world of college football, that’s a bigger offense than a mere double-homicide.

12-2

July 29th, 2010
11:26 pm

SO CAL FAN

July 28th, 2010
12:49 pm
“Auburn needs to stop crying…let’s see…Oh, in 2004 Auburn played The Citadel, LA Tech and La Monroe (all at home) while USC played VA Tech (away), Colo State (home), BYU (away) and Notre Dame (home) as their OOC games. Auburn played a weak schedule. If the BCS title is to be given to another team, it should be OU, not an overrated Auburn team.”

Who Auburn BEAT 2004 :

# 7 Final AP Poll in 2004 Georgia was 10-2 beat 9-3 LSU, beat 7-5 Florida, beat 7-5 Georgia tek, lost to 10-3 Tennessee vols and lost to 13-0 Auburn.

# 10 Final AP Poll in 2004 Virginia Tech were 10-3 lost to 13-0 Auburn in the Sugar Bowl, beat 9-3 Miami, beat 8-4 Virginia, beat 7-5 Georgia tek and beat 8-4 West Virginia.

# 13 Final AP Poll in 2004 Tennessee vols were 10-3 losing to 13-0 Auburn

# 13 Final AP Poll in 2004 Tennessee vols were 10-3 losing to 13-0 Auburn twice, but beat 10-2 Georgia.

# 16 Final AP Poll in 2004 LSU was 9-3 losing to 13-0 Auburn

Southern California in 2004 WAS ranked # 1 Final AP Poll and Auburn was ranked # 2 in the Final AP Poll.

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Auburn WON 5 games against Top 16 Final AP Poll teams in 2004.

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Who Southern California beat 2004 :

No one.

Vegas Jackette

July 29th, 2010
11:28 pm

this is by far the biggest creep on earth..and thinks he is suppose to play in the Ga Dome vs. Tn in the kickoff classic. what a joke..He always tried taking over the state of Ga the best he could with billboards, flying in helicopter to the h s games..I have to agree with uga fans about this dirtbag..and as much as I do not care for VT’s Beamer, Kiffin couldn’t even shake his hand after last year’s bowl game, Kiffin and USC deserve each other, I hope they close the program down.

12-2

July 29th, 2010
11:37 pm

SO CAL FAN says Auburn “played a weak schedule 2004″ yeah right with 5 wins against Top 16 Final AP Poll teams, but “Auburn needs to STOP CRYING” while Southern California beat no one in 2004.

0 wins 2004 Southern California
5 wins 2004 vs Top 16 Final AP Poll teams Auburn

But, Auburn

“NEEDS TO STOP CRYING about 2004.”

Oh, yeah Southern California fan, that is who should STOP CRYING all right.

12-2

July 29th, 2010
11:55 pm

How weak is a schedule of 5 WINS against Top 16 Final AP Poll teams ?

Strongest in the nation.

Weakest ? Southern California -0- wins against ANY ONE.

Bill

July 30th, 2010
1:31 am

We got screwed then. Nothing will change. WDE! I would like to see another SEC team go undefeated and not win the Championship, just so I could by them a beer.

12-2

July 30th, 2010
6:38 am

BCS said they will wait until Southern California loses its appeal, however, Southern California is NOT appealing the 14 wins vacated.

As far as I am concerned, and everyone else, Auburn is the only undefeated team, won 5 games vs Top 16 Final AP Poll teams, and is the NC.

I said that at the time.

I still say it.

G8R8U2

July 30th, 2010
10:22 am

Hey, Jeff, a small correction for your article. USC didn’t have to vacate all of it’s games for the 2004 season, as you claimed here:

“The Trojans won the championship game but, as you might have heard, just got put into NCAA timeout and now must vacate all wins for that season.”

They only had to vacate the last 2 games of the 2004 season, which were the UCLA game, and the Orange Bowl National Championship game. It was the 2005 season that they vacated entirely, except for the Rose Bowl National Championship game, which of course, they lost to Texas.

Clay

July 30th, 2010
2:55 pm

The only thing worse than getting snubbed by the BCS back in 2004 for an Auburn fan would be to buy into this story and hold out hope to be awarded the 2004 National Championship…. only to have it ultimately not happen.

NBA

July 30th, 2010
6:30 pm

“And whatever gloating SEC partisans have to say about the change, remember: This is still only the second-most embarrassing media guide overhaul of the season”

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Georgia-throws-Damon-Evans-down-the-Memory-hole;_ylt=Ap79GglMCJKHQ9Ix205R94zynYl4?urn=ncaaf-256198

Dawg'88

August 3rd, 2010
3:58 pm

Hey Schultz,

Saw where Doole really threw down the gauntlet at UFK as compared to UGA. He has recently reinstated two Volunteers players he suspended following a July bar brawl that left an off-duty police officer seriously injured.

Sophomore linebacker Greg King and sophomore defensive tackle Marlon Walls will join their teammates when they begin fall practice Wednesday. The pair has been suspended since the July 9 brawl, though their roles in the incident have never been made clear by police.

Dooley said Tuesday he’s comfortable with the punishment Walls and King have served. What punishment…what were they suspened from? At least when UGA suspends theiroffending players its from what they really care about…the games and playing time. What these Vowels did was in the same realm as UGA’s players that you ripped along with CMR’s handling of it.

Why is CMR subject to your criticism but not Saint Dooley? Here’s what he said about being tough on misbehavior of his players (now it means nothing..it was lip service..think the player know the difference…damn right they do …especially now…they have no reason to fear realpunisment):

“As I have referenced on many occasions, a change in culture is
achieved in time through a combination of education, discipline and
support. We will aggressively continue to build on the many positive
changes that have occurred over the last five months to ensure our
program is represented with class and dignity.”

“There has been enough incidents to know that we can’t just stick
our head in the sand and say, ‘Oh, we’re really OK. Just one or two
guys did this,’” Dooley said. “I don’t ever stick my head in the
sand, and we take responsibility for it and we’re going to continue
to change it.”

What Dooley demonstrated here is weakness…and worse the message was sent loud and clear…we need you to win games and that’s more important. At least UGA has mandantory specific suspensions actually put to use not just threatened. Dooley is no disciplinarian!

Look forward to your blog/article slamming Dooley as well as you did CMR…showing your fairness right? I won’t hold my breath. Probably going to just get excuses.

Dawg'88

August 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm

GT BABY…I didn’t vote for Obama. An most UGA fans didn;t either. UGA fans are conservative as a majoirty. Now GT folks are the liberals So go look in your own mirror!

Mike

August 4th, 2010
3:39 pm

USC’s vacated wins does not change OU having lost…it simply means that the win was vacated…OU still has the loss on their record according to the NCAA…O.J. was indeed “found not guilty” by a jury of…well…his peers…people who would not have voted him guilty eve if Nicole & Ron had come back from the dead and told them O.J. did it…The prosecutors proved their case but the defense counsel turned the trial into a race question and the spineless judge, look at me I’m on T.V. Ito, let them get away with it…

Jez my .02

August 7th, 2010
9:01 pm

Cover looks like asswipe to me. Just sayin’.

Jez my .02

August 7th, 2010
9:04 pm

More like John McKay’s bitch.

err..."SSIgator"? Really?

August 7th, 2010
9:08 pm

No wonder he hates the Dawgs if he (she) is really in SSI (Athens-South).

Auburn may get an ‘04 ‘title’ yet (and who’s USC’s cover boy?)

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