Auburn may get an ‘04 ‘title’ yet (and who’s USC’s cover boy?)
All 156 All-Americans, 11 (or 10) national titles and 7 (or 6) Heismans? Lane Kiffin did that.
Before we get into this media guide cover — and thanks to devoted reader/serial e-mailer Andy Rosenberg for the tip — there is a movement afoot to appease Auburn in its national title claim for the 2004 season.
Rewind: Auburn, USC and Oklahoma all went undefeated in the regular season in 2004, but only two could go to the BCS title game. So Auburn was snubbed, went on to win the Sugar Bowl and finish 13-0, and coach Tommy Tuberville and Tiger Nation screamed injustice. The Trojans won the championship game but, as you might have heard, just got put into NCAA timeout and now must vacate that win (among others).
Now comes this: The executive director of the Football Writers Association of America said at the Big 12 Conference’s preview that the organization may take away USC’s 2004 title and award it to Auburn. “I wouldn’t say we’re definitely going to do that, but it’s a possibility,” Steve Richardson said. “As we survey the scene, we have an opportunity to consider for the first time of vacating, in the modern era, a national championship.” (It’s worth noting Tuberville now coaches in the Big 12, at Texas Tech.)
The FWAA honor might be all Auburn gets. The BCS has said it won’t make its decision until after USC’s appeals to the NCAA are complete. Even then, it probably will just vacate the championship. The Associated Press will not change its final rankings, even though Auburn finished second to USC.
Meanwhile, the poor USC sports information department doesn’t know what to do. Note the hysterical media guide cover. It references 11 national championships (including 2004). But the original cover that listed seven Heisman Trophy winners now has been changed to six. This is kind of bizarre, given that while the school made a big show of returning Reggie Bush’s Heisman Trophy, the Heisman Trust hasn’t done anything yet and won’t make a decision until after the appeals.
In summary, Bush, whose family lived in a home rent free, is not recognized by the school, but O.J. Simpson, who killed — excuse me, may have killed — two people is still embraced by USC.
Now, about the guy on the cover. I’m not sure who that is. But given the way those numbers are super imposed over his proud stance, I guess he had something to do with 11 national championships, 31 bowl victories, 6 Heisman winners, 156 first-team All-Americans and 437 NFL players.
Maybe he mentored John McKay or something.
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Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
3:53 pm
Its a shame,
The Pac 10 has one team that has won a national title in the previous 30 years? You forgetting about Washington which claims a split title in the year 1991 I believe?
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
3:58 pm
“You forgetting about Washington which claims a split title in the year 1991 I believe?”
Split being the key word there, Tide.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
3:59 pm
“Then you need not reply.”
But I did.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:00 pm
“Trying to revise a little history there buddy?’
No, that’s what the hillbillies of Tuscaloser do. Everyone else is too busy making fun of you guys.
gdawginkalamazoo
July 28th, 2010
4:01 pm
POAD, now that Cameron comment was funny.
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:02 pm
Its a shame,
Split titles still count. The system wasn’t perfect back then and there’s no problem with 2 deserving teams splitting the title sometimes when there was no way they could settle it on the field.
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:03 pm
Its a shame,
True comedy is when an AU fan says Tuscaloser to an Alabama fan coming off a BCS championship and 14-0 season. Now THAT is funny.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:07 pm
“Split titles still count.”
Never said they didn’t.
“The system wasn’t perfect back then and there’s no problem with 2 deserving teams splitting the title sometimes when there was no way they could settle it on the field.”
Yeah, if said team isn’t Auburn, right……..
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:09 pm
“True comedy is when an AU fan says Tuscaloser to an Alabama fan coming off a BCS championship and 14-0 season.”
No, true comedy is having Bama people make fun of Auburn people when both schools are in one of the poorest, crappiest states in the union.
As far as your 14-0 season goes, yeah great, good for you. But guess what, this isn’t a blog about Bama.
Auburn's Colonel Jeb
July 28th, 2010
4:09 pm
No one at Auburn is crying. If they give it to Auburn so be it. It’s their decision, not ours. That being said, Auburn deserved that trophy as much as anyone else did. Tommy T said he’d bring a national championship to Auburn and in my opinion, he delivered. War Damn Eagle!!!
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:10 pm
Tide Rising
If Bama was left out of a national title game while going undefeated, you’d be screaming bloody murder from the trailer parks.
Auburn's Colonel Jeb
July 28th, 2010
4:11 pm
For the record, Miss Shame, there is one difference between Alabama and Georgia. It’s Atlanta. Beyond that, they’re exactly the same. When you say crappy, you come away with crap on your lips. Do you like that?
Auburn's Colonel Jeb
July 28th, 2010
4:12 pm
Bama may have a winning football team, but their fans are true Tuscaloozers.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:13 pm
“When you say crappy, you come away with crap on your lips. Do you like that?”
Guess it’s better than what’s on your lips, ma’am. Grab a towel, you’ve got some white stuff on your face….
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:13 pm
Its a shame,
AU could get a split if the voters truly thought they deserved a split. In light of USC’s total destruction of OU 55-19 and Auburn’s struggle past VT 16-13 the voters unanimously considered USC the best team in both polls. AU had a fine team that year but who could really blame them the voters for giving both polls to USC? Also, it may be faulty logic to bring into play AU’s 2 losses to USC the previous 2 years but right or wrong that factored into the voter’s thinking to a small degree I’m sure.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:17 pm
“AU could get a split if the voters truly thought they deserved a split.”
AU had a tougher schedule than OU.
“Auburn’s struggle past VT”
USC struggled against the same team and they weren’t even ranked when they played them.
“voters unanimously considered USC the best team in both polls.”
Yeah, but in case you missed it, USC cheated and had it stripped from them.
“AU had a fine team that year but who could really blame them the voters for giving both polls to USC?”
Yeah, who could blame them for giving it to a school that cheats. CHEAT ON!!!!!
“Also, it may be faulty logic to bring into play AU’s 2 losses to USC the previous 2 years but right or wrong that factored into the voter’s thinking to a small degree I’m sure.”
LOL! With that logic, Bama should have never gone to the National Title game because they got their @sses handed to them six years in a row by Auburn.
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:18 pm
It’s a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:10 pm
Tide Rising
“If Bama was left out of a national title game while going undefeated, you’d be screaming bloody murder from the trailer parks.”
Having traveled all over Georgia on business I can personally assure you that Alabama doesn’t have anything on Georgia in terms of numbers of trailers. If you don’t know that then you’ve probably never left your own single wide.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:20 pm
“Having traveled all over Georgia on business I can personally assure you that Alabama doesn’t have anything on Georgia in terms of numbers of trailers. ”
Well, I guess meth dealers like yourself do have to travel for sales every now and again.
“If you don’t know that then you’ve probably never left your own single wide.”
Well yeah, I had to come over to collect rent from you. Duh!!!!
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:21 pm
“LOL! With that logic, Bama should have never gone to the National Title game because they got their @sses handed to them six years in a row by Auburn.”
As I said not my logic. Just saying what was in the backs of minds of some voters I’m sure. But since we’re bringing up streaks I thought I would educate you and let you know the longest winning streak in the series is Alabama winning 9 in a row. Currently we have our own little streak working in case you haven’t noticed.
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:22 pm
Its a shame,
Meth dealer? Not really. I’m actually a pimp. BTW, I’m sending your mama and sisters back home to ya. They’re used up.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:27 pm
“But since we’re bringing up streaks I thought I would educate you and let you know the longest winning streak in the series is Alabama winning 9 in a row. ”
Yeah, back in the 60s or 70s. Yaaaaaaaaaawn.
“Currently we have our own little streak working in case you haven’t noticed.”
Two is a streak?
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:27 pm
“BTW, I’m sending your mama and sisters back home to ya. They’re used up.”
Guess that’s the best a Bama fan can come up with.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:29 pm
“Just saying what was in the backs of minds of some voters I’m sure.”
Yeah, most of them were drinking the Pete Carrol kool aid. I remember when Lee Corso was screaming bloody murder when OU got in. Said that they played high school teams the entire season. Buy hey, so did USC.
Les W. Moore
July 28th, 2010
4:31 pm
I remember when Kiffin was hired and Obama won the election. I thought both were too inexperienced for their respective roles. Given the past 18 months, I’m now convienced of it.
Tide Rising
July 28th, 2010
4:34 pm
Its a shame,
Its been fun but I’m outta here. Just remember- U R my beyotch. You’re the guy that didn’t show up for a face to face conversation last month when I called you out. Yeah. I remember your punk coward noshow azz now. Have fun and keep hiding behind the keyboard.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:34 pm
“Given the past 18 months, I’m now convienced of it.”
Yeah, but at least Kiffin has actually held a real job. Obama not so much.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
4:35 pm
“Just remember- U R my beyotch.”
No, Tide, I’m not your sister.
“You’re the guy that didn’t show up for a face to face conversation last month when I called you out. ”
????????? You’re either insane or dementia has set in.
“Yeah. I remember your punk coward noshow azz now. ”
Guess all the inbreeding really screwed up what little brain cells you had.
rogeriter
July 28th, 2010
4:52 pm
If you are going to take away USC’s title–which I think should be done–you should also declare Barry Bonds, Mark McGiure’s, Sammy Sosa’s and Alex Rodriquez’s home runs null and void. They cheated too. Roger Maris and Hank Aaron are the true home run champs.
That's Mister Desperation to you
July 28th, 2010
4:54 pm
If Karen Sypher came around asking for it, even today, I’d probably have to oblige her. Just like Damon couldn’t resist Courtney.
TampaGator
July 28th, 2010
5:02 pm
Auburn was better than both USC and Oklahoma that year…and I hope they get what they earned and deserved….a National Championship for the Tigers and another one for the almighty SEC!!!
TampaGator
July 28th, 2010
5:05 pm
…..and just for the record….the Georgia team that beat Florida and then Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl…was the best team in the country that year…and should have played for the NC….they would have won over anyone they played at the end of that year. That was one really good football team….and “Willy” coached and had a really great defense that year.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
“.the Georgia team that beat Florida and then Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl…was the best team in the country that year…and should have played for the NC”
They didn’t win their division and they didn’t win the SEC.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:15 pm
“If you are going to take away USC’s title–which I think should be done–you should also declare Barry Bonds, Mark McGiure’s, Sammy Sosa’s and Alex Rodriquez’s home runs null and void. They cheated too. Roger Maris and Hank Aaron are the true home run champs.”
Yep, I agree with that 100%.
yer daddy
July 28th, 2010
5:20 pm
Alabama’s goal at the beginning of each season is to; a) win the SEC, and b) win the NC. Auburn’ goal at the beginning of each season is to beat Alabama…
’nuff said about that
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:27 pm
Alabama’s goal at the beginning of each season is to a) not get caught paying the players, and b) lick Nick Sabans butt crack. Auburn’s goal is mock the utter stupidity of inbreds who attend bama football games and pretend to be students.
nuff said about that
TampaGator
July 28th, 2010
5:30 pm
Obama is probably way too intelligent and logical to be President of the United States….(I was actually sitting in a place having coffee this morning and heard a person refer to the President as a certain kind of animal…amazing….when you consider the guy making the reference had a brain less intelligent that the animal he mentioning in association with the President of the United States) But…whatever kind of President he currently is….Obama is far better than the guy who occupied the White House the 8 years before him. But the ex-Gov of Michigan (Romney) would have made the best President….but he is “non electable” because he practices a weird religion called Mormonism….and that has to make me wonder just how smart Romney truly is (and I think he is very smart and qualified to be President). Not that mormons are bad people….but to give up the White House for it…and what he actually could accomplish….no way! He is an intelligent right to middle thinker…and a proven, effective manager….and that is what we need….more centralist points of view (and what we got actually got during the prosperous Clinton years…along with his playful, male nature…..and we need more of that kind of centalist thinking in both parties….and less extremism in both…and maybe something good could actually get done in Washington.
….also….I was having coffee in a local spot this morning and this guy across from me referred to the President of the United States….who holds a law degree from Harvard and served on the Harvard Law Review….as a certain type of animal. I thought it was funny because the guy who said it had far less brains than the animal he associated with the President. It is sometimes scary to sit and listen to my fellow Americans…and to know that so many of us do not think or reason above a sixth grade level.
TampaGator
July 28th, 2010
5:34 pm
It’s a shame….
That Georgia team was still the best team in the land at the end of that year…and the perfect example why college football needs a playoff system that is fair to a expanded group of elite teams. Georgia would have rolled through the playoffs that year…against anyone. They were extremely talented…and hitting on all cycles at bowl time.
TampaGator
July 28th, 2010
5:35 pm
Sorry about the double comment about having coffee this morning in my Obama/politcal post….actually…..I am sorry I made the post…period. Sometimes I just get ticked off about what is happening to America.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:37 pm
“It is sometimes scary to sit and listen to my fellow Americans…and to know that so many of us do not think or reason above a sixth grade level.”
Well yeah, you have the IQ of a carrot. As for Obama, if he’s so smart, how come every decision he, I mean his teleprompter makes, is a disaster?
Where are all the jobs your cult leader promised in 08?
Oh, and since you talk about his intelligence, Harvard has never released his grades. John Kerry used to talk about how smart he was until his grades were released. Guess what, he made D’s in every single class.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:37 pm
“That Georgia team was still the best team in the land at the end of that year”
No, LSU was. They have the trophy to show for it. Sucks to be you.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:38 pm
“Sorry about the double comment”
Well yeah, just shows that you didn’t have the intelligence to understand your mistake.
POAD
July 28th, 2010
5:39 pm
Lane hasn’t won enough football games to even get JOCK ITCH.
Gen Neyland
July 28th, 2010
5:40 pm
The photo of Kiffin. What a hoot. Looks like he’s giving it his best Patton impersonation. All he needs is a couple of pearl gripped pistols or a riding whip with a polished steel bucket upon his crown… Go get ‘em Kif. Make USC pay for their errant ways..!
POAD
July 28th, 2010
5:41 pm
Shame Dawg: but UGA didn’t get to play in the SEC cahmpionship game to prove how great they were. Oh wait they weren’t good enough to win the SEC EAST to play in the SECCG. Now I get it. I guess it is too hard for UGA fans to understand that.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:43 pm
POAD
You must be getting me mixed up with TampanDog. I’m not a UGA fan.
POAD
July 28th, 2010
5:44 pm
Kerry married very very well and Obama became more Africam American than white. That is the true story of both of those men. Bush was born with a name and that is the truth too.
POAD
July 28th, 2010
5:47 pm
Shame I know that is why I tried to back you LSU play. Maybe it came out wrong, but UGA fans thought they were the best but couldn’t play for the SECCG as the East rep. and then they played Hawaii. AHHAHAHA Hawaii. I am not a dawg fan either. that is why my name is P i $ $ on a Dawg.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:50 pm
“Obama became more Africam American than white.”
Actually, he’s more of a girl. He wears mom jeans and throws a baseball like a girl. Wait, I take that back, most girls can actually throw a baseball to home plate.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 28th, 2010
5:51 pm
“that is why my name is P i $ $ on a Dawg.”
Oh, I thought it meant Poor Ox And Donkey.
82Dawg
July 28th, 2010
5:54 pm
POAD…UGA did not choose to play Hawaii that is who the BCS put in the Sugar Bowl. Not sure why you think it is so funny……..