NCAA reportedly investigating Florida (but temper excitement)
Maybe Maurkice Pouncey (56) can use the, "It wasn't me, it was my brother (55)" excuse.
Those dirty, cheatin’ Florida Gators may be under NCAA investigation.
But seriously, don’t get too excited, folks.
According to report by ESPN.com, the NCAA is investigating an allegation that former Florida center Maurkice Pouncey, a first-round draft pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers, was paid $100,000 by a representative of an agent some time after the Florida-Alabama SEC championship game against and before the Gators’ appearance in the Sugar Bowl against Cincinnati.
Let’s consider the worst-case scenario: Pouncey is guilty. That means Florida used an ineligible player in the Sugar Bowl. The ramifications: They would have to forfeit one win over the Cincinnati Bearcats.
So much the earth-shaking news in Gainesville. Or the parade in Athens.
Barring the NCAA finding Florida in violation of other allegations, the only way the Gators get slapped with a more significant penalty than vacating one win is if the NCAA finds that Florida knowingly used an illegal player in the Sugar Bowl. That issue was at the root of USC’s two-year probation with Reggie Bush. The difference is, Bush’s reported benefits took place over a series of several months, including his family living rent-free in a home that was provided by a sports marketing representative. The NCAA determined that the Trojans must have been aware of benefits Bush was receiving over a long period of time.
If Pouncey took $100,000 from the agent in the time frame that has been outlined, the NCAA would have to prove that Florida became aware of it after the SEC championship (Dec. 5) and before the Sugar Bowl (Jan. 1), a period of four weeks (some of which was a holiday break for players). It doesn’t seem likely the NCAA could prove that — nor does it seem plausible that coach Urban Meyer would care enough to cover up allegations of one player taking money from an agent for the sake of one bowl game that didn’t have national championship ramifications.
By the way, for the record, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said: “At this time we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida.”
The NCAA will take it from here.
So let me guess: You believe Florida should be hit with three years probation and loss of 30 scholarships?
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Tdawg
July 19th, 2010
5:19 pm
Reality just because you’re not in the top don’t mean you didn’t do it. No way are you ever going to convence me that Bama played by the rules when bear was the head coach. Tech on the other hand. If the classes are as hard as you guys say they are then you know as well as I do that they cheated their a$$e$ off. The NCAA just didn’t catch you guys at it as often. Tech and Bama were just better cheaters.
Hello World!
July 19th, 2010
5:19 pm
This ain’t USC, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.
R. Bush took almost $300K, same with C. Webber during the fab five days. With USC the Bush incident was one of many thing that happened during his tenure, this happened once. USC flat out didn’t “notice” that Reggie B. was “meeting people” and hence why they got the huge sanctions due to the lack of compliance. This thing is no where near the Bush case.
John
July 19th, 2010
5:19 pm
I guess there’s two ways to beat the Gators. The Dawgs either need to achieve at Florida’s level or UF needs to sink down to where we are. I’d derive more satisfaction from our fortunes rising rather than Florida’s falling.
Really and truly, there’s no excuse for UGA being the Gators’ permanent butt-boy all these years. Both programs have comparable resources. UF’s just done a helluva lot better job managing theirs than UGA has. And if they’re cheating, they’re doing a pretty damned good job of hiding it.
It rankles me too, having to listen to all these smug UF dip-sticks proselytizing about Coach Urban and their beloved orange and blue all the time.
But until the UGA brain trust can figure a way to get the Dawgs where UF is, what’s to stop them?
Tide Rising
July 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
Move along folks. Aint nothin here. At most gators have to forfeit one game and get a slap on the wrist. What the ncaa would be looking for is institutional cheating. And this aint it. Its sick how some of the dawg fans on here find this so delightful. Kinda silly actually. Especially when you find out that nothing is going to become of this if its even true except a 1 game vacated deal and a very small punishment.
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
5:23 pm
“You believe Florida should be hit with three years probation and loss of 30 scholarships?”
Are you in the psychic biz now, Jeff?
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
5:23 pm
Tide Rising
Uh huh, and I’m sure you were just screaming with AU got hit with probation in the early 90’s.
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
5:25 pm
By the way, according to ESPN, Bama only has 7 national titles. Guess Bama needs to hire some better math teachers for the hillbillies.
jumbeauxtiger
July 19th, 2010
5:30 pm
Doesn’t sound like a lack of institutional control. This could happen at any school.
Next topic?
Beast from the East
July 19th, 2010
5:31 pm
It’s a shame,
Are you referring to the dog named “Christie Brinkley”?
Billy Bob
July 19th, 2010
5:31 pm
Tide Rising
Thanks for explaining the article to us.
Mike T.
July 19th, 2010
5:31 pm
And how many SEC and NC does your sorry little team have?
Same number as Bama None. National Championships are mythical.Unoffical.
Twelve SEC.
Those oil fumes are gettin to Destin Dawg
July 19th, 2010
5:32 pm
STFU Clown!
Tide Rising
July 19th, 2010
5:35 pm
Its a shame what he did to that dog,
Actually going by the usual standard which is either the AP poll or the coaches poll since 1936 we have 8 legit titles tied with ND. OU and USC are each one back with 7, Nebraska, Miami and OSU 5 each. ESPN was just inaccurate.
And I wouldn’t say I was screaming when AU got hit in the early 90s. When AU got hit with the Eric Ramsey probation I thought it was mostly BS. That kid was just angry at the world, angry at AU coaches that he didn’t get a job in the pros, and he just turned and bit the hand that fed him. AU got into all kinds of trouble because a booster bought him some steaks to take home. Are you kidding?
Tide Rising know all about ......
July 19th, 2010
5:35 pm
BAMA VIOLATIONS! BAMA ON PROBATION AGAIN!!! HAHA
Tide Rising
July 19th, 2010
5:39 pm
Billy Bob,
I always like a bit of biting sarcasm. Seriously though. There aint nothing here. Nothing of an institutional nature anyway. One player may have made a bad decision with one game left in his career. So what. Florida vacates the win and gets some type of small penalty.
To Hell with THUGA
July 19th, 2010
5:39 pm
What did UF do wrong? nothing. Go after the sports agent and Pouncey, they both knew the rules and laws.
Tide Rising
July 19th, 2010
5:42 pm
CHEATING HALL OF FAME THE TOP 29 NCAA DIVISION I TEAMS IN TERMS OF ALL-TIME MAJOR INFRACTIONS CASES.
Source is NCAA.ORG (ncaa legistlative database of major infractions cases)
1. Arizona state 8
2. SMU 8
3. Auburn, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Whichita State, and Wisconsin all with 7 each.
4. Cal, FSU, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Memphis, and UCLA with 6 major cases each.
5. Baylor, Cincinatti, Colorado, Miami, Fl., Michigan State, Mississippi State, NC State, Texas-Pan American, USC, UTEP, Washington, and West Virginia all with 5 major infractions cases each.
Know all,
Sorry but I just don’t see us on there although we did have 3 major cases all coming since the 90s. Don’t see the gators on there either for that matter. I guess we both got some catching up to do with the rest of you.
I want that Gator ad asst
July 19th, 2010
5:45 pm
to replace evans so georgia can cheat and not get caught. go dawgs!! WOOF WOOF !
Billy Bob
July 19th, 2010
6:01 pm
Tide Rising
Are you saying there aint no parade?
Urban Meyer
July 19th, 2010
6:01 pm
Can’t blame me…I was with my shrink…besides..the Pope and I are buddies!
Paul in RDU
July 19th, 2010
6:14 pm
Why the heck was Pouncey in such a rush to take the money? All he had to do was to wait until after the Sugar Bowl and then declare that he was going pro.
Florida has laws against agents tampering with college athletes (only a civil offense) and the IRS is sure as heck going to be taking a hard look at Pouncey’s returns for 2009 but unless there are other issues here, UF will be fine.
We will leave the light on
July 19th, 2010
6:14 pm
CUM is good for only one, maybe two more years in Gatorland Park. He is a walking case of nerves and the shakes. ALl of my Dad’s side Florida family are Gators and they know that Urban is a bad case of ” I am burned out.” One of my cousins played with Spurrier ……….they know what is coming.
Ocala Rehab,Inc says ” we will leave the light on for you, Coach.”
Nothing lasts for ever ……….ask Alabama about post Bear years 25+ and Florida being in the wilderness for a few years, post Stevie and Ole Miss post Johnny Vaught,etc. Dooley was neve that important to UGA so, he will not be named.
Things do always run in cycles ……………….with some folks up and others down. CUM is on borrowed time.
When the shoe falls ……………Miami AND FSU will benefit,a s well as the emerging “smaller schools” there in Florida.
Dawg but Closet Gator
July 19th, 2010
6:15 pm
I, for one, like the Gators. We are fortunate to play them as they improve our game. Time to move on. We are fortunate that Superman will not be back kicking our *ss this year.
Beast from the East
July 19th, 2010
6:21 pm
Leave the light on,
It’s a shame you have to hope for your rival’s downfall because you are unable to rise to their level of play. Whoever your team is, good luck with “hoping” UF comes back to you. Not likely to happen anytime soon.
archangeladidas
July 19th, 2010
6:23 pm
17 out of 20! We own you! 17 out of 20! I would say more but why bother. Do what you do best uga…lose!
Shut Up...
July 19th, 2010
6:37 pm
Shultz, if anything does happen report that, don’t just run with a rumor. And no I am not a Gator fan, Dawg fan here. Its a wonder they make any money at all over there at the AJCrappy.
Terry
July 19th, 2010
6:38 pm
Leave it to a non-educated alcoholic hiring school to call the University Of Florida cheaters. I guess the past 20 years hasn’t taught that redneck school and it’s fine surrounding newspapers how to keep there mouths shut.
Shut Up...
July 19th, 2010
6:40 pm
Shultz, ur a moron, and I am a dawg fan…
Dawg Days
July 19th, 2010
6:46 pm
Jeff, you say….”nor does it seem plausible that coach Urban Meyer would care enough to cover up allegations of one player taking money from an agent for the sake of one bowl game that didn’t have national championship ramifications.”
So therefore, if the Sugar Bowl was for the national championship, Meyer would care enough to cover it up…
Dawg Now
July 19th, 2010
6:53 pm
I knew florida players had to be on the take—it was a matter of time before it came out. Now, they’ll have to forfeit the sugar bowl millions and give it back to the NCAA. the ncaa better check for a coverup.
Gator man
July 19th, 2010
6:57 pm
UF 59 UGAG 9
You read it here first…UF will stomp the pups this Fall in JAX…UGAG fans cry foul, as usual….
Bamabelle in Ga
July 19th, 2010
6:57 pm
This sounds eerily similiar to what happened to Alabama with Antonio Langham after we won our 12th NC against Miami. He signed something on a cocktail napkin in a bar in New Orleans in the midst of a major celebration. It makes me crazy! Give him the same punishment that was given to UA! It crushed all of the Alabama faithful……
Gator Hater
July 19th, 2010
7:02 pm
Tide Rising:
“AU got into all kinds of trouble because a booster bought him some steaks to take home. Are you kidding?”
You failed to mention Ramsey had Coach Blakeney recorded telling Eric to “keep it down home cuz” regarding the payments he was receiving.
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
7:08 pm
“ESPN was just inaccurate. ”
Ah yes, Bama fan analysis.
Bama = right
ESPN = wrong
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
7:09 pm
“Sorry but I just don’t see us on there although we did have 3 major cases all coming since the 90s. ”
Bama speak for “I just looked the other way.”
It's a shame what he did to that dog.
July 19th, 2010
7:11 pm
“Actually going by the usual standard which is either the AP poll or the coaches poll since 1936 we have 8 legit titles tied with ND.”
Uh huh, keep on talking, Tide. Everyone knows Bama likes to claim national titles. What’s funny is the fact that Bama has never won a championship in any other sport besides football.
ES
July 19th, 2010
7:13 pm
How does your coach say he doesn’t know if he’s going to remain coach,at the same time lose your good defensive coach to another job,and still have the top talent left in country come to play for you?The same bull gators that got tired of losing 4 or 5 games a year the first part of the last decade got off the big bucks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We lose Willie a bad defensive coach and lose recruits.I ‘ll take nothing off a Gator in up coming years!Because anyone with half a brain knows they cheated under those conditions to have that kind of a class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dawgs2010
July 19th, 2010
7:14 pm
Florida always gets a free pass. The media loves them. No way they will be punished for anything.
Dawgs2010
July 19th, 2010
7:17 pm
On the other hand, the Gators are due for some bad luck. It is very difficult to keep playing at a high level in the modern era of college football.
What goes up must come back down.
Gator Ade
July 19th, 2010
7:17 pm
GO GATORS!!!
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GO GATORS!!!
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GO GATORS!!!
GO GATORS!!!
If you dawg morons think this will change anything, dream on!!!
ES
July 19th, 2010
7:22 pm
It don’t have to best team money can buy.
Hunker Down
July 19th, 2010
7:32 pm
Sounds like you nailed this one pretty good Jeff. UB most likely was unaware of the event and even if he was which I doubt as you mentioned it would be difficult to prove. sounds like a possible one game forfeit to me.
DawginLex
July 19th, 2010
7:33 pm
Death penalty
76-Dawg
July 19th, 2010
7:43 pm
If Florida didn’t know what happened, other than forfeiting the Sugar Bowl game nothing should be done. The same thing could have happened to UGA or any other team. I don’t think Florida knew what went on or would have had time to do anything about it. Now the Agent should go to prison for the maximum of 15 years. The state of Florida made the penalty up to 15 years so they could control violations in a strict manner. The owner of the agency should get 15 years also. This would make the owners police their own agents and make it a serious offense. If you don’t make it a harsh penalty then other agents would try to get the same jump on their competition and you would have this same violations every year in Florida. I would parole the owner and agent after 3 years but if there were any more violations from either both would serve the rest of the 15 years with no chance of early release. The owner would lose his license forever. I don’t have any patience when it comes to people getting ahead of the competition by unethical , immortal. or cheating methods.
Pi$$onaDawg
July 19th, 2010
7:57 pm
Maybe the dawgs should learn from the GATORS and BAMA! If you cheat at least win Championships in Football and not the Championship of the BAIL BONDSMAN BOWL.
Bulldog59
July 19th, 2010
8:01 pm
8 at 8:
1. This is a non-issue for the Gators, but a forfeit of the Sugar Bowl win is unfortunate.
2. This IS a major issue in NCAA sports.
3. Agents AND players should always be charged when this happens. .
4. Agree with Clay, still comes down to winning on the field.
5. Had these disagreements with TampaGator before, he follows Meyer with a blind faith and believes Meyer does NO wrong. Meyer is a great football coach, but still just a man, and he has his agenda, tendencies, weaknesses, and faults like everyone else.
6. Tebow ran the play called by Meyer, most likely about 90% of the time. Checkoffs, etc. occur on every team. For all those runs, a very small percentage were called by Tebow. Most of the time, it was an option and he chose to keep the ball, but MEYER called the play. It is ridiculous to insinuate that Tebow called the offense. Tebow led the offense, but Meyer ran the offense.
7. Same goes for Harvin. College players don’t decide if they play. When injured, they tell the coach if they think they can contribute, the medical staff is involved, etc. But if they play injured, ultimately, it is the HC’s call. Meyer and any HC worth a damn would tell you that.
8. Meyer is a fine football coach, but he didn’t do the best possible job preparing Tebow for the NFL. If I had a QB that ran like a FB, I’d lean on him too, it’s human nature, and it worked. Richt and many other coaches would probably be guilty of the same thing.
Jesse James
July 19th, 2010
8:04 pm
There is so much corruption in the NCAA there is no way to patrol it. Pi$$onaDawg, was that your mother’s red panties?
Pi$$onaDawg
July 19th, 2010
8:10 pm
No Jesse she don’t wear panties now. The Chemo mad that hair fallout too and panties just ICH. Do you have anymore personal question about my mother? I can promise you she is a better woman than you mother by a long shot. Just ask the many people whose lives she has CHANGED and made BETTER.
Mike
July 19th, 2010
8:15 pm
http://gasportreport.blogspot.com/
Urban Meyer now has the perfect excuse to resign and move to Colorado to be closer to his baby.
I
July 19th, 2010
8:22 pm
8 at 8:
1. This is a non-issue for the Gators, but a forfeit of the Sugar Bowl win is unfortunate.
2. This IS a major issue in NCAA sports.
3. Agents AND players should always be charged when this happens. .
4. Agree with Clay, still comes down to winning on the field.
5. Had these disagreements with TampaGator before. He follows Meyer with a blind faith and believes Meyer does NO wrong. Meyer is a great football coach, but still just a man, complete with his agenda, tendencies, weaknesses, and faults like everyone else.
6. Tebow ran the play called by Meyer, most likely about 90% of the time. Checkoffs, etc. occur on every team. For all those runs, a very small percentage were called by Tebow. Most of the time, it was an option and he chose to keep the ball, but MEYER called the play. It is ridiculous to insinuate that Tebow called the offense. Tebow led the offense, but Meyer ran the offense.
7. Same goes for Harvin. College players don’t decide if they play. When injured, they tell the coach if they think they can contribute, the medical staff is involved, etc. But if they play injured, ultimately, it is the HC’s call. Meyer and any HC worth a damn would tell you that.
8. Meyer is a fine football coach, but he didn’t do the best possible job preparing Tebow for the NFL. If I had a QB that ran like a FB, I’d lean on him too, it’s human nature, and it worked. Richt and many other coaches would probably be guilty of the same thing.