NCAA reportedly investigating Florida (but temper excitement)

Maybe Maurkice Pouncey (56) can use the, "It wasn't me, it was my brother (55)" excuse.

Maybe Maurkice Pouncey (56) can use the, "It wasn't me, it was my brother (55)" excuse.

Those dirty, cheatin’ Florida Gators may be under NCAA investigation.

But seriously, don’t get too excited, folks.

According to report by ESPN.com, the NCAA is investigating an allegation that former Florida center Maurkice Pouncey, a first-round draft pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers, was paid $100,000 by a representative of an agent some time after the Florida-Alabama SEC championship game against and before the Gators’ appearance in the Sugar Bowl against Cincinnati.

Let’s consider the worst-case scenario: Pouncey is guilty. That means Florida used an ineligible player in the Sugar Bowl. The ramifications: They would have to forfeit one win over the Cincinnati Bearcats.

So much the earth-shaking news in Gainesville. Or the parade in Athens.

Barring the NCAA finding Florida in violation of other allegations, the only way the Gators get slapped with a more significant penalty than vacating one win is if the NCAA finds that Florida knowingly used an illegal player in the Sugar Bowl. That issue was at the root of USC’s two-year probation with Reggie Bush. The difference is, Bush’s reported benefits took place over a series of several months, including his family living rent-free in a home that was provided by a sports marketing representative. The NCAA determined that the Trojans must have been aware of benefits Bush was receiving over a long period of time.

If Pouncey took $100,000 from the agent in the time frame that has been outlined, the NCAA would have to prove that Florida became aware of it after the SEC championship (Dec. 5) and before the Sugar Bowl (Jan. 1), a period of four weeks (some of which was a holiday break for players). It doesn’t seem likely the NCAA could prove that — nor does it seem plausible that coach Urban Meyer would care enough to cover up allegations of one player taking money from an agent for the sake of one bowl game that didn’t have national championship ramifications.

By the way, for the record, Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley said: “At this time we have no information that has indicated that there are any compliance issues for the University of Florida.”

The NCAA will take it from here.

So let me guess: You believe Florida should be hit with three years probation and loss of 30 scholarships?

Earlier today: Sneak Peek Monday:

Can Dogs end Alabama-Florida monopoly in SEC title game?

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214 comments Add your comment

Urban

July 19th, 2010
2:59 pm

About a 1/2 game suspension

Barry

July 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

Yes Jeff. Hit them hard, hit them often. Three years and 30 scholarships is a small price to pay for the invention of the jort.

ed

July 19th, 2010
3:03 pm

urban cryer calling another presser, chest hurting, needs some more publicity.

Spike

July 19th, 2010
3:11 pm

Just don’t gouge us in the eye!

destin dawg

July 19th, 2010
3:14 pm

Meyer just cares out winning.. not his players.. he wore out Percy Harvin in couple games… lucky with minor injuries… Tebow had 2 shoulder separations and 2 concussions.. being used as a fullback.. not prepared for NFL as a QB… wore himself out Heart attack etc.. too intense about winning to be around on a daily basis… this is college and they are supposed to be STUDENT/athletes ??!!!

Clay

July 19th, 2010
3:16 pm

Come on Jeff. Who in Athens (or Dawg Nation) gives a damn about UF getting on probation? You either beat your rivals on the field or you don’t.

Are teams that lost to Bama 3 years ago gonna crow because that game gets forfeited (pending appeal) in their latest probation?

Most Dawg fans I know want UGA to get better, and that has nothing to do with how good or bad UF gets.

Buckhead Dawg

July 19th, 2010
3:17 pm

Hit em hard! They’re a bunch of cheating crooks. Just look at them.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:18 pm

Now we know why one brother “Pounced” on a NFL offer and one didn’t…and I know the Pouncey brother’s father needed and received major surgery to save his life right before the bowl game. I wonder if that had something to do with Maurkice taking the money from the agent? If he took the moeny…I doubt the Florida coaches knew about it. A couple of years ago a Florida player took some money before a bowl game and was dismissed from the team (I can’t remember the name). So I think they would have done the same to Maurkice if they had knowledge of the situation….as I think any SEC coach would. This is a non-issue for the Gator program….but does make you wonder about Maurkice’s reasons for taking the cash in advance of the bowl game. And I am sure Maurkice playing made the Gators completely humiliate the Bearcats!!!!

Mikey in SAV

July 19th, 2010
3:19 pm

Good call Clay.
UF? Nothing to see here folks…keep moving along.

wesleywhatwhat

July 19th, 2010
3:20 pm

if u can’t beat ‘em, offer ‘em money so their players are ineligible.

Beast from the East

July 19th, 2010
3:20 pm

Nice commentary from typical UGA fans. You guys need to pull the red panties off of your head and see the light of day.

Just kidding guys……have at it and pile on!

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:20 pm

destin Dawg….I guess Tebow “not being prepared for the NFL” caused him to drop all the way to the FIRST round of the draft? Good reasoning, dude!~

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:24 pm

Destindawg….
….also….Tebow…one shoulder injury (before the Georgia game) and one concussion (during the Kentucky game)….you might want to get your facts right before posting a lot of incorrect data…

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Tao

July 19th, 2010
3:30 pm

No way. FL Gaters cheat? You have to be kidding me. They are like USC I bet.

destin dawg

July 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

Tampa… Tim Tebow=great athlete and competitor.. Meyer didn’t need to use him as a FB.. concussions result in all kinds of debilliatating health problems later in life.. just sayin….

chris

July 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

Will UF have to vacate the win in Tebow’s last game??? Blasphemy!!!

dap01

July 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

The violation probably occured on Family Day. Thursdays are Family Day at the University of Florida.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:33 pm

Destindawg….
One more example of your lack of knowledge about Meyer….Meyer did not play Harvin in several games in his career at Florida when he had an injured ankle and gave him time to to fully recover….including the SEC championship game against Bama….that is how much Meyer doesn’t care about his players. It was Harvin’s decision to play hurt against Oklahoma that year. If anything, Meyer underplayed Harvin in his career at Florida….or underused him according to a lot of Gator fans. No coach in American cares more about his players than Meyer…just ask the players. You can rant about Meyer all you want…but the truth is the truth…and your incorrect posts do not change those facts.

Tao

July 19th, 2010
3:35 pm

TampaGator: Are you in love with Urban. It sure sounds like you want to make a baby with him. 1, 2, 3, 5, 4…Gaters take no jive.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:37 pm

DestinDawg…you are amazingly uniformed….Tebow called his own number when he ran for the Gators…and no one ran the run option and the power run from the “QB” position better than Tebow in NCAA history. Tebow has done that all his playing life (and the concusion came during a passing play when he was hit from the blind side!!!)…and he was a man among boys in college when he did run the ball. Expect to see more of it in the NFL.

BG

July 19th, 2010
3:38 pm

This does not surprise me one bit. Urban Meyer is a shady coach.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:39 pm

Tao….are you “homophobic?”….you sure sound like it….1,2,3,4, 5….I believe that would be proper numerical order even for a homophobic like you….who probably also suffers from a lack of numberical development.

Clay

July 19th, 2010
3:41 pm

Boy, you know these agents know the NCAA rules. States should make laws that make it illegal for player/agent contact that break NCAA rules, then make the punishment some jail time, for the player and agent, unless they contact the school, tell them immediately of the violations.

Dawg Man

July 19th, 2010
3:42 pm

And I thought Southern Cal was the only place where athletes got paid. Meyer will probably have a spaz attack at whoever let this out.

ugakev

July 19th, 2010
3:42 pm

I will not accuse florida of cheating but i would never be surprised if i found out they did

Waycross Dawg

July 19th, 2010
3:43 pm

Foley runs too good of an organization to allow something blatant to happen. So calm down Dawg fans……..nothing earth-shaking is going to happen here, and i don’t think we really want something like this happening anyway. Don’t we, as the greatest football fans on earth and in the greatest states for producing talent, want the SEC as a whole to be a place that kids want to play ball, and a place where things are done the right way? Now that we’ve got ‘Bama on the straight and narrow, let’s hope that we can keep the entire conference on the right track so that we can enjoy being the BEST conference in the US for many yearas to come.

Bryan G.

July 19th, 2010
3:43 pm

Let me, as a UGA fan, try to impart some sensibility here.

This is the kind of thing that – if true – could have happened to any school. It’s silly to punish a school and a team for one player taking some money from an agent before what was, in essence, a meaningless exhibition game.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:45 pm

Lastly….don’t expect Foley to go out, get drunk, go for a wild drive in Atlanta, stick red panties in his pants, text a hooker 200 times….etc. etc. etc.

And….yes….I am extremely disappointed in Maurkice Pouncey. He seemed to be a better person….but money sometimes corrupts the best of us….and agents tend to help with the process.

BOOBEE'S

July 19th, 2010
3:48 pm

None of this helps us win in Jacksonville…………….

NoGaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:48 pm

If true, very bad judgement on Pouncey’s part. Although as TampaGator mentioned, I believe the dad had just suffered a terrible accident where his leg was amputated. There isn’t any way that I could imagine the coaches or other authorities knowing anything about this before the Sugar Bowl. Their program is too valuable and they’ve worked too hard doing it the right way to let a player put that in jeopardy.

I believe the same goes for UGA’s program. Now Kiffin, on the other hand…not so much

GT71

July 19th, 2010
3:49 pm

I believe that would be ‘numerical’, TampaGator…but then no one in northern FL or Clarke County GA has any sense of ‘numbers’.
The old question says it all – What do folks in South Florida call North Florida?
South Georgia.
You just can’t tell sometimes where the ignorance ends.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:49 pm

Clay….

I agree with you. It should be illegal for agents to give moeny to non-professional athletes (until they have announced as a professional and completed their playing activities at a univeristy or college…and it should be a felony offense. If they would punish the agents and not the kids or the school….the abuses (like this one) would stop, I think.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 19th, 2010
3:50 pm

Dont put them on probabtion! Heck if we EVER can muster back-back wins against them, the last thing we need is for them to be on probation when it happens.

Over/Under the next time we win 2 straight against them?

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 19th, 2010
3:51 pm

….yeah I think its going to be a while also

Matt

July 19th, 2010
3:51 pm

Much ado about nothing. If you read the ESPN article, it states that the University of Florida turned this in to the NCAA. So make them vacate the Sugar Bowl win, I am sure Cincy will feel much better about the butt kicking. Oh, and to quote the famous Gata cheer.
1,2,3,4,5 the Gators own the Dawgs and that’s no jive.
You can’t cure stupid so vote them out of office!

Bob

July 19th, 2010
3:51 pm

This is an outrage. They should be banned from collegiate football for 20 years.

Paddy

July 19th, 2010
3:51 pm

Non story. Looks like UF had no indication of this. Lets just play and beat them in Jacksonville.

Dawg1970

July 19th, 2010
3:52 pm

Read the headline, temper your comments. For all we know, Knowshon may have done the same thing, etc. Aw wait, give ‘em he?? dawgs.

joe

July 19th, 2010
3:54 pm

Of course you can find out when the money was sent…by checking banking records of Pouncey or the agent in question…its not like drug money, there’s got to be a trail of some sort. I say investigate and if Pouncey accepted money while still a student, then slap UF with a USC like probation.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
3:55 pm

GT71….I believe it to be a typo…and not a geographic issue related to my post….and I did grow up in South Georgia (Tifton…got my ass kicked playing against Valdosta many times on the football field)….and I am a proud to be from that area. And you are incorrect….North Florida is 10 times more populated with the educationally deprived than South Georgia. You have to speak in a “non-voweled” language to live there….it is required.

courtney

July 19th, 2010
3:56 pm

how bout dem red painties …..

Dawg1970

July 19th, 2010
3:57 pm

Just saw on ESPN that NC and SC have players who are being questioned about trips to So Fla possibly paid for by agents, so this could be a widespread problem. Don’t know how any school will police this.

Ben

July 19th, 2010
3:57 pm

Was this really worthy of a blog entry? I mean, I hate UF as much as the next guy but come on.

Dawgtards ruin this state

July 19th, 2010
3:59 pm

Dogs are next as the annual edition of South Eastern Cheaters continues!

Dale

July 19th, 2010
3:59 pm

Meyer doesn’t care. He’d already won a fortune in Vegas betting against the Gators in the SEC title game. I heard.

FORTY ONE POINTS to your seventeen points

July 19th, 2010
4:00 pm

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TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
4:01 pm

joe…you can’t slap Florida with a violation like USC’s for this….especially if the Gator coaches did not know about the situation…(all you can do is take away any wins the player played in) which Foley clearly states they didn’t from his own investigation….but the NCAA will conduct its own investigation to verify Foley’s data. If the Florida coaches did know about it, Meyer and any other Florida coach deserves to be fired…and should be. I believe Foley. He would not try to cover this up….or get drunk worrying about it. He would admit it, administer the proper consequences to the coach or coaches involved, and file truthful information to the NCAA.

TampaGator

July 19th, 2010
4:06 pm

Finally…this is an “agent” problem for ALL schools and the situation needs to be addressed with a Federal law (or even state laws) to limit agent involvement with these kids while they are particpating in non-professional sports….with a felony consequence if they do.

Russ the Temporary Mascot

July 19th, 2010
4:09 pm

What a bunch of sissies! Dawg players know how to party down, grab some woman by the humps, and get suspended for manly reasons. Then they get arrested and let out on bond. Not one of them would settle for a few grand as a means of getting in the dawghouse and then sneaking off to the NFL.

FL can just kiss my blackened behind and I won’t even let the trainers use white paint or a pair of red panties to cover it up.

Shreveport or bust for us this year. You can mark it down.