There goes another: Miller signs with Houston over Hawks

Veteran center Brad Miller is taking his game to Houston, not Atlanta.

Veteran center Brad Miller is taking his game to Houston, not Atlanta.

The Hawks continue to either: 1) Twiddle their thumbs, or 2) clutch their wallets, when it comes to signing another center. Either way, another big man just fell off the board.

Brad Miller, believed to be the more desirable choice for the Hawks’ offense over Shaquille O’ Neal by some in the organization, has agreed to a three-year contract worth nearly $15 million with the Houston Rockets, according to ESPN.com. The deal probably was out of the Hawks’ price range.

The 34-year-old Miller, who was a two-time All-Star for Sacramento when Rockets coach Rick Adelman was there, drew the interest of several teams, including the Hawks, Boston, Cleveland and Miami. The 7-footer averaged nine points and five rebounds in 24 minutes last season in Chicago.

Where does this leave the Hawks? Possibly nowhere.

They have made no movement on O’Neal. A potential trade that would have dealt Marvin Williams to Cleveland for salary relief appears dead, if it was ever even alive. And it doesn’t appear Hawks’ ownership is willing to spend the money on anybody else to improve the front line, which means they’ll again have an out-of-position Al Horford playing center.

For the record: Yes, I’m aware Horford made the All-Star team last year. But even he has said on several occasions he feels more comfortable at power forward. The Hawks don’t necessarily need to sign a starting center. They merely need somebody who can play significant minutes off the bench, take up space and be a presence. Either O’Neal or Miller would fit the bill.

If the Hawks stand pat, are you comfortable with things as is? I’m not.


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Sonny Clusters

July 17th, 2010
4:06 pm

Sonny Clusters

July 17th, 2010
4:08 pm

“When you don’t pitch and you don’t play defense, and you don’t hit at all, that’s a good formula to get taken out behind the woodshed,” said Jones, who was injured while swinging in the seventh inning — the inning where the Braves left the bases loaded while trailing 6-3.

And when you don’t stretch and you go out on the field like Chipper you pull something everytime.

ClassicHawks

July 17th, 2010
4:14 pm

I Won’t Be Completely Happy With This Off Season Unless We Land Shaq! If Go Into This Season With The Same Squad and Say A Kwame Brown, Then That Means We Have Not Improved Our Ball Club, Which The ASG and RICK Sund Said That What They Were Going To Do. Until Shaq Signs, Then I Will Begin To Worry. But We Did The Right Thing Not Trading Marvin For Shaq! That Would Of Been A HUGE Mistake!!

Doug

July 17th, 2010
4:14 pm

What do you do with Josh Smith if Horford plays PF?? Play him at SF???? You have got to be kidding. They would have absolutely NO ONE to stretch the floor and their primary gift of out athleting other people by playing somewhar small would be comepletly gone. Brad Miller is horrible…if they can get a modestly priced big that does give them the option of going bigger at times that is fine. ASG may not be the best but how do some use the logic that they are simultaneously prolifigate and foolish (signing JJ) and stupidly tight (refusing to sign overpriced, almost useless large people, i.e Miller, Dampier, Ilgauskus, yikes

Jody

July 17th, 2010
4:16 pm

@ Jeff

Don’t know what to say. The Hawks simply don’t appear to want to make themselves better. Also, continuing to marginalize Horford’s talent by playing him out of position, almost exclusively, is a terrible direction to take. I imagine at some point, Al’s going to get frustrated with this.

Tmac

July 17th, 2010
4:20 pm

Let me get this straight… ASG stood pat and didn’t spend money on someone other than Joe Johnson and try to improve this team?

Come oooooooonnnnnnnnnnnn. You expect me to believe that? LOL

(sell the team ASG clowns)

Another article to remind me...

July 17th, 2010
4:28 pm

…how much i hate the ASG!! Why do the Gearons think they are so good at what they do? just sell the team(s) already!! give me somebody, anybody but these losers!!! and go back to doing your regular day-time job while ur at it, i guess u were good at that

Larry

July 17th, 2010
4:30 pm

Two cheap centers we can sign just for hustle and defence both unrestricted DJ Mbjenga from Lakers and Anthony Tolliver from Golden State along with ZaZa and Al gives us more size in paint plus both are better options than Joe Smith and Collins keep Morris around also he’ll get better i hope.

Teague-Bibby-JC2
JJ-JC-JC2
Marvin-Smoove-Mo
Smoove-Al
Al-Zaza-Tolliver-Mbjenga

More depth in the hole plus ASG and Sund stay under cap until trade deadline if this team falters b4 the allstar break can also pick up Allen Iverson real cheap with new coach and young legs to cover for AI and Bibby plus now we got 24 fouls to use on Howard or Big Z. I kinda like this line-up keeps us under cap and gives flexiabilty to trade JC and Marvin for Oden or Kaman or we could still trade Joe if this is not working. Hawks will be okay if they run.

Stat Man

July 17th, 2010
4:31 pm

The wasted money on JJ will be even MORE of a waste if they don’t follow up with a big man.

Like Buying the most expensive toy in the store, but then bitch the batteries cost too much and let it sit there and rot.

TruthSeeker

July 17th, 2010
4:32 pm

Jody raises a good point. Al has openly stated that he wants help down low. If the Hawks don’t bring in a big man to help take the load off, not only does that hurt our chances of contending next year but it also runs the risk of causing a rift between the organization and Horford with Al due to be a free agent next year. Not good.

Sara

July 17th, 2010
4:36 pm

So it’s looking like we’ll basically have the same team from last year, if they don’t sign anyone else.

Harry Hawk

July 17th, 2010
4:39 pm

The Heat are doing a good job loading up on big guys. Since Wade-LeBron-Bosh, they’ve signed Ilgauskas, Haslem, Anthony, and second-round pick Dexter Pittman. Second-rounder Jarvis Varnado will sign soon, as will Jamaal Magloire and possibly Juwan Howard. None of those big men are great, but if you can throw six of those seven big men, along with Bosh, against teams like Orlando and Atlanta, you’re going to have a huge advantage in the paint.

We don’t need any of those guys, though. We’ve got Randolph Morris.

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Another GM

July 17th, 2010
4:42 pm

If The Hawks sign Shaq, then the other teams become concerned. If the Hawks do not sign Shaq then you will not be able to wipe the smile off their faces!

RAD

July 17th, 2010
4:43 pm

I with you guys! Al will not stay in Atlanta if we don’t get him help down low! You can bank on that ASG! Or…maybe you already have!

shawn

July 17th, 2010
4:47 pm

ASG is a joke. Just look at who they hired as a head coach? Are you telling me that LD is a better coach than MW? Please, I do not care anymore. Let’s go Braves and Falcons. Hawks can join Thrashers another sorry ass team.

tony

July 17th, 2010
4:50 pm

I hope AL Horford sign with a better team when he becomes a free agent. That young man need to go to an organization where they want to win championships. Al is a championship caliber player and he deserves better.

Phillips Arenas need to stay empty all season until they run those self centered owners out of town. The next owner will think twice before he mess around with the fans in the ATL.

DHD

July 17th, 2010
4:50 pm

Maybe they didn’t want him. YOU create stories about who the Hawks want and then YOU say they had another loss. I say that YOU don’t know.

Bleu_Bayou42

July 17th, 2010
4:53 pm

Out of position or not, Al Horford is an All Star Center.

Larry

July 17th, 2010
4:54 pm

I like Shaq to but he is old and stays injured why trade Marvin for him you kids watch to much sports center. Good teams have hustle players come off the bench just to spell the starters. Back in the day when the Sixers couldnt beat the Celtics to get out the east with Dawkins they added Caulwell jones and MarK Ivorni to go with Bobby Jones the following year they added Moses. Then the Celtics made adjustments added Walton then the following year the Lakers got Kareem help added Mcadoo and Mikal Thompson see you kidds don’t no basketball and manuervring. I hate the Lakers but I hope they beat the Heat with there bought team who’s gonna defer their game on the Heat not LeBron he loves himself to much and I hope he nevers wins a ring.Hawks just need to puttm on their ass when they drive the paint thats why you need the players i suggested earlier when I played we wern’t friends on the court you not go highlight me put u on ur a** you’ll think about driving to paint next time no pretty boy wants to get hit.Make shot jumpers we’re there weak.Thats why they’ll never compare to MJ, Dr. J, Nique, Barkley, Bird,Iceman theie highlight reels then Wade says he and James torch barriers these guys never fled like LeBron and Bosh those players teams made adjustments not big splashes like all of you want our core is solid and young keep them together we will get better Woodson took us as far as he could and did a good job. I bellieve Drew will take us alittle further just gotta stay healthy.

Bleu_Bayou42

July 17th, 2010
4:54 pm

Only if we are lucky Sara.

SAM JAMES

July 17th, 2010
4:57 pm

Why wont we all just concede that the second Miami locked in the big 3, the ASG’s ‘grand plans” to surround JJ with more talent died. And they resorted to what they know best…. In all honesty, the worst thing that happened to the Hawks future was Lebron’s move, Boston’s run to the finals, Dwight Howard and maybe Chicago.

It became obvious that we couldn’t afford an overhaul that would keep us relevant talent-wise…….

So, we eat the JJ contract and pray for a miracle: we aren’ bad enough to tank games, so we cant get up in the draft, we wont have any money to spend on free agents. The Hawks can only hope a contender showers us with expiring contracts for JJ PERIOD and make another run in 3-4 years.

dap01

July 17th, 2010
4:59 pm

The ASG has lied to the fans. There will be less interest this year, there will be less fans, the ASG will fail.

JS: Keep up the good work, you are like us….not fooled.

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:05 pm

Keep up the posts that record when Sund and Co. said they were going to use the 3m they made on draft day by selling a draft pick to OKC on vets to make us better. Jeff, please don’t let ASG get away with it – keep it in the paper everyday to make us better. Help the beleagured fans here Jeff – ASG said it, make them pay up. I know they lost 20m last year – if they can’t afford that, tell them to sell the team – but don’t move them to Vegas!

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:06 pm

I only know of 4 more guys we are interested in – Tolliver, Kwame, Kurt Thomas and Josh Powell – are there more?

southerndawg63

July 17th, 2010
5:09 pm

The hawks have not improved while everyone else has (except cleveland of course). We do need a good big man in the middle to help control dwight howard or the same thing will happen to us that happened this year. That is, if we get to the magic in the playoffs.

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:09 pm

Sign Shaq for a 2nd pick – then you can use the 3m trade exception so we don’t go into luxury tax territory – Sign Shaq so we can compete!

atlienforlife

July 17th, 2010
5:13 pm

That one hurts, I think Miller would have been a good fit. I am just hoping against hope we don’t trade for shaq, unless he signs for the minimum. Regardless of how you feel of marvin, trading a 24 yr. old with up side for a 38 yr. old is insane. I think the smart move would be to sign kurt thomas, he proved in the playoffs, he is a good defender and leader.

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:15 pm

Lakers up front – Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Odom – ATL – Josh, Al, Marvin and ZaZa

Back Court – Blake/Fisher and Kobe vs Teague/Bibby and JJ and Jamal.

We gotta sign Shaq to have a chance it looks like.

Heat – Back Court – Chalmer, Wade, Miller

Front court – LeBron, Bosh, Anthony, Z, Haslem, Howard, Magliore

Again – it looks like we need Shaq to compete

Steve

July 17th, 2010
5:16 pm

I’m just about on board boycotting the Hawks until the team is sold.

ASG, you once again lie to your fans and fail to do anything at all to please them, then you once again will fail to sell any tickets. Have it your way…you’ve got to be the cheapest millionaires in existence.

Atlanta fan in San Diego

July 17th, 2010
5:17 pm

So Mr. Schultz, how far do you think the Hawks will get this year? I think we will be lucky to make the second round again.

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:17 pm

Lakers – Josh vs. Gasol – we’re toast
Bynum to big for Horford
Artest beats Marvin
Odom better than ZaZa

Back court – Blake/Fisher maybe Brown – Better than Bibby/Teague
Kobe better than JJ and Jamal, although I like 2 players better than 1

Throw Shaq in the mix, and we have a chance

SteveW

July 17th, 2010
5:22 pm

Current balance of power in the East:
Magic
Heat
Celts
Bucks/Bull
ATL sixth as of right now.
Heat’s best chance to win? This year and next – after that – Wade is getting to old, Bosh is getting beat up, Miller will be too old, Haslem will be too old, and the 3 amigos salaries going up, up, up meaning the surrounding cast going down, down, down

Hawk Hawker

July 17th, 2010
5:22 pm

The hawks, miss out on talent? Surely, you can’t be serious! Come on, the ownership group signed the great joe johnson to a max $120 million contract—that means they are on top of it—they’re savvy personnel evaluators baby! The hawks will dominate the NBA next season with those unstoppable joe johnson iso sets!!!! YES!!!!

Willy

July 17th, 2010
5:27 pm

I feel like weez bein’ bamboozled!

S Hawk Fan

July 17th, 2010
5:40 pm

Another cheap move , or no move, by the Cheapo ASG!!!! It is just a shame these losers can own the team. BTW….. have the Hawks hired any assistant coaches or are they going to save money and ask a usher to shout down advice to Coach Drew!!! What a joke!

ntrigue

July 17th, 2010
5:42 pm

Just sign Tolliver and Aminu!

Grumpy

July 17th, 2010
5:44 pm

Sorry SteveW, neither the Bucks or the Bulls are better than the Hawks, and we owned Boston last year. We’re no worse than a 4 seed, which means a likely second round matchup with the Heat and another year without making the conference finals.

will

July 17th, 2010
5:49 pm

ASG, Please sell the team

This is the most incompetent sports ownership, I have ever seen!!!

Tripledouble

July 17th, 2010
5:52 pm

Aw, quit panicking. So what if we traded Josh Childress away for a few more lap dances for Mike Gearon, and gave Joe enough money for lap dances for the rest of his life?

d.carter

July 17th, 2010
5:54 pm

are you stupid the Bulls are better than the Hawks as soon as they signed Carlos Boozer

Big Ray

July 17th, 2010
5:56 pm

Sorry SteveW, neither the Bucks or the Bulls are better than the Hawks, and we owned Boston last year. We’re no worse than a 4 seed, which means a likely second round matchup with the Heat and another year without making the conference finals.

Owned Boston? Let me see…after getting swept by us in the REGULAR SEASON, Boston went to the NBA Finals after trashing the team that swept US in the second round. Meanwhile the Bucks nearly took the first round from us WITHOUT Andrew Bogut, and now they’ve ADDED talent and depth to their team.

Meanwhile, the Bulls have gotten better by putting a 20 and 10 player with Derrick Rose, and adding a lights out shooter in Kyle Korver. And I’m betting they are not done.

So yeah, if you’re happy with a 50 win season and another perplexing trip to the playoffs, then I guess the glass is always half full. What have we done to get better besides firing Mike Woodson. Oh yeah, we gave Joe Johnson a huge raise. Wait….did that make us better?

:roll:

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HawksFan

July 17th, 2010
5:59 pm

We need to sign Kwame and be done with it.

The guy really hasn’t played in the right scheme imo to really take advantage of his talents.

He’s athletic, young, and very similar to the rest of the good players the Hawks have. From a skill point, he’s not developed enough to be a fit in the various roles and scenarios a big man can fit into, but he’s athletic, and runs well for a big guy and since the Hawks are best when they’re scrambling on defense getting hands in the passing lanes and running the floor after TO’s and defensive RB’s then I don’t see how a big like Kwame wouldn’t fit right in. Especially in a back role.

One thing no one has really brought up is why is ZaZa not a trade piece when trying to get a big man. The reason we’re trying to bring someone in is becasue ZaZa sucks on defense and isn’t a banger. He’s not returned to his best which was in the Celtics series 2 years ago in the playoffs. That earned him a new lucrative contract much like Koncack of years past. Both were terribly overrated.

Personally I don’t want to trade Marvin because I thought Woodson was quite possible the worst offensive coach I’ve seen at the NBA level. I’m inclined to think Marvin will do much better in a better and more fluid offense that’s not built around isolation plays. Add Kwame to the mix and he gives you a big off the bench that can bang and rebound defensively. If he can assert himself on the offensive glass and score a few times in transition utilizing his athleticism then I fail to see how he wouldn’t be a very good pick up for the Hawks. Not to mention he’s not old and can grow with the rest of the Hawks.

Chris

July 17th, 2010
5:59 pm

What do you expect? They paid way too much for Johnson, again. I wonder if Pete Babcock is advising the GM and ownership group? Paying Johnson that much was the 2nd biggest boneheaded personnel decision the team has made. Letting Detroit sucker them into that huge contract for Jon Koncak was the biggest one.

ryan

July 17th, 2010
6:02 pm

Brad Miller really worth 15 million poor Shaq is becoming like the TO of the NBA can’t find a job. Shaq is going to have take mid level price if he wants to play for a playoff team.

UGAFAN#?

July 17th, 2010
6:07 pm

we’re talkin basketball clusters, not how easily chippper gets hurt.

PUBLIX

July 17th, 2010
6:08 pm

why don’t we trade Zaza and Williams to Golden State for Biedrins? He is a legit 7 footer and pretty good!!!

If we can’t get him, then just take Siller, he was in the camp last year and is HUGEEEEEE! I know he is pretty slow but he would get at least 10 rebounds and 7-9 point just because of his size.

nes

July 17th, 2010
6:26 pm

ASG needs to sell out fast! Golden State went for 450 million, so there ASG–sell and get out of town now. Maybe we can get JJ to pay the salary of a center out of his 120 million he got. ASG just made the Hawks organization the laughing stock of the NBA with that contract they gave JJ, no team in NBA would even give JJ the 92 million cap contract and Hawks outbid theirselves!! What a joke and now no money for other players unless they want to exceed the luxury tax and ASG can’t pay for it. Then with LD as coach, ASG can’t afford to pay off the remaining coaches who worked with Woody, so now LD is stuck with current assistants and basically only could hire his replacement in Conner! Absolutely unbelievable to be this cheap with a NBA franchise! i will say it one more time that hawks should have drafted Center Whiteside instead of wasting the pick on Pape Sy who they could have signed as a free agent! no other NBA team even heard of him–just great management by ASG.

♥Mz. Hawkdafied♥

July 17th, 2010
6:31 pm