Does Josh Childress fit into Hawks’ plans?

It looks like Josh Childress may be flying back to the NBA.

It looks like Josh Childress may be flying back to the NBA.

Three weeks ago, we told you there was a good chance Josh Childress might return to the NBA next season for the simple reason that his hair nearly caught on fire (well, it could have) after drunk and moronic Greek basketball fans shot off flares INDOORS at a basketball game.

Now, the possibility of Childress leaving Greece appears stronger than ever — and Olympiakos wouldn’t mind it a bit.

Tax laws apparently are changing in Greece. The new structure would make it more difficult for Olympiakos to pay the final year of Childress’ three-year, $20 million contract and could potentially double taxes for basketball players. It’s important to note that the $20 million in Childress’ contract is net, not gross. Current generous tax laws in Greece make it the equivalent to a $32.5 million deal.

Childress has until July 15 to opt out. Hawks general manager Rick Sund already has said that he will extend a $4.8 million qualifying offer to retain his NBA rights.

Here’s the question: Where do you see Childress fitting into the Hawks’ lineup? Is he a backup plan at shooting guard if Joe Johnson leaves in free agency? Is he a replacement for Marvin Williams at small forward? Should he still be considered primarily a great sixth man in the NBA — a spot currently filled on the Hawks by Jamal Crawford?

The assumption is Sund won’t make the call on Childress until he sees what happens with Johnson. But do you see Childress as part of the Hawks next season or should the team package him in a sign-and-trade?

Meanwhile, I’m re-posting the video from the Greece basketball final. You can fast forward to the three minute mark to see a flare explode on the players’ bench. In the next shot, most of the arena’s fans were gone from the lower level. The pyrotechnics hit again at the four minute mark.

The Count is allowing this re-positing of the Greek basketball final

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58 comments Add your comment

Buck Commander

June 21st, 2010
9:50 am

Buck Commander

June 21st, 2010
9:52 am

Back to Back FIRSTS, I need to play the lottery tonight.

Ric Roc

June 21st, 2010
9:59 am

Buck Commander,

Now that you have completed your life’s mission, what ever will you do??? You are now a soldier with no war…

No Woody — maybe Childress would be a bit more open to coming back. It’s not like he’s exactly lighting the Euro League on fire. The pressures of a big-money contract. They expect you to play up to it.

JSS

June 21st, 2010
10:02 am

Josh Childress is not a matter of if his games fits, only he fits if the price is right. He is like most of the Hawks players, a pure ‘tweener. He is not a pure shooter this or a pure explosive high wire that… We just have to work with what he brings to the table, hustle and a intermediate game…

GoldJacket

June 21st, 2010
10:11 am

Convince him to come back and then trade him and Larry Drew to Dallas for Dwane Casey

Big Ray

June 21st, 2010
10:11 am

Back when he was here, Chills was good enough to start, but was also a heck of a sixth man. If he comes back, he has to be ready to be a role player, though what his role would be is questionable.

Could he start? Yes, particularly if his offense has improved a bit, and Marvin continues his nose dive. Unfortunately, he then makes a sorta small frontcourt a bit smaller, as he has less weight, height, and wingspan than Williams does.

But Jamal isn’t the only issue. Bringing Chills off the bench makes us a deeper team, and he’d be a heck of a punch alongside Crawford, but what about Mo Evans? There won’t be enough minutes unless we’re going small all the time off the bench. And really, there isn’t enough minutes if Joe Johnson comes back, which he very well may do.

The best way to view Chills right now is as an asset, plain and simple. He helps us, whether on our roster, or part of a trade package. And speaking of trades, I’d be open to trading Marvin if it got us a very useful piece in return. I wouldn’t mind snagging Hawes or Jason Smith from Philly. Lord knows they ain’t gonna give up Speights, and we don’t want Brand.

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freshd

June 21st, 2010
10:18 am

I remember when WOODY played CHILLS at the guard position, even at the point sometimes. So I think he could matchup with TEAGUE or JAMAL in the backcourt sometimes.

Paddy

June 21st, 2010
10:26 am

Hawks need another 6′8″ forward like a moose needs a hat rack!

Jeff Schultz

June 21st, 2010
10:28 am

Ric Roc — Good point on the Childress-Woodson relationship but I’m not sure if Chills has hard feelings towards the organization as a whole.

ntrigue

June 21st, 2010
10:28 am

I say keep him and let him play a some what Jamal type role off the bench. He should primarily be Marvins backup. Depending on how Marvins playing let him get starter type mins off the bench.

Jeff Schultz

June 21st, 2010
10:29 am

JSS — I would imagine his financial expectations would be “reasonable” although I realize that’s subjective. Also, other teams might be willing to spend more. Has to start with: What’s his role, and then you go to, what’s that role worth?

Jeff Schultz

June 21st, 2010
10:31 am

Freshd — Teague and Chills as a backcourt? That would be interesting.

JSS

June 21st, 2010
10:32 am

@ Paddy…
Actually they do need another 6′8″ forward… They need one that can play!

Paddy

June 21st, 2010
10:37 am

JSS…point taken!

Ted M

June 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Flares shmares, I aint afraid of no flares. I can’t believe Chills would work for 5 mil less because he’s afraid of flares.

JSS

June 21st, 2010
10:44 am

@ Paddy…
I think we are all coming to that point… Kinda like Dan Reeves with Linebackers and Tight ends, we eventually may fall into one and keep them signed and happy…

Geoff

June 21st, 2010
10:50 am

if JJ comes back, put Childress at either starting or back up forward position and trade mo evans. if jj decides to leave start either childress or evans at the starting sg position

JuniorBridgeman

June 21st, 2010
10:50 am

Childress has been gone away from the Hawks system for about 3 years or so. He has missed too much time away from the Hawks and the Hawks have dramatically improved and brought in so many new players and with that chemistry in place, dragging Childress into the frey now would disrupt and ruin the chemistry of the team. The Hawks finished the 2010 campaign with the THIRD BEST RECORD IN THE CONFERENCE, behind only Orlando and Cleveland. That is one heck of an accomplishment and regardless of firing Woodsen, losing fans or completely retooling the team, there are only two teams in the entire conference with better records than the Hawks. That goes to show just how far the Hawks have climbed the ladder of success in the eastern conference. For the sake the children, please dont bring Childress back here. There is plenty of NBA talent out there that you dont have to recycle old retreads to make the talent pool work. Childress is old news. Lets get fresh new talent in here to augment what we already have.

swatguy

June 21st, 2010
10:57 am

Chillz is a definite upgrade, any way looked at. Josh Childress is still light years better than Marvin and compliments completely with whoever is on the court. He is the type guy that fills in the void, a glue guy. I’d sign him without a doubt. If coach Drew has designs for Marvin good, keep him. But if there is a question of the two, Chillz is the clear choice. If Joe moves on, Sund will need to make a big deal which may be Marvin and others(Bibby, Mo) to package in a S&T.

TONE

June 21st, 2010
11:10 am

they better bring him back , with the ownership being so cheap , and JJ likely leaving Childress could possibly come back and step into being a top two or three offensive option on this team. believe me huddle houses across the state are scared at the thought of him being the go to guy.

Dr. Warren

June 21st, 2010
11:11 am

We can’t forget that Childress was THE most impressive Hawk in that 2008 Boston playoff series. The guy had clearly come into his own. Look, he’s only missed two seasons here, not three. Why trade him? We know what we’re getting in Childress more than some other guy.

Pi$$onaDawg

June 21st, 2010
11:17 am

I think Childress just learned a valuable lesson. Europe ain’t as financially sound as you thought and Basketball Players are a DIME a dozen.

POAD

June 21st, 2010
11:22 am

The NBA should just become a Pay Per View only League and really findout how many people really care and how much Players should actually be paid.

FromtheBARstool

June 21st, 2010
11:23 am

Add hockey to tha list POAD.

KimZ'sPackage

June 21st, 2010
11:25 am

Football and Baseball are all the matter. Well, Maybe Women’s Pro Beach Volleyball I like the outfits.

KimZ'sPackage

June 21st, 2010
11:28 am

Ted M

June 21st, 2010
11:33 am

Jeff,

Is the remainder of Chills contract guaranteed? Is the final year 8 or 9 mil tax free?

Paddy

June 21st, 2010
11:42 am

JSS…yes we are all seeing the real nature of the Hawks problems and it is a microcosm of the entire NBA. There is an old adage that states” always add to your strengths” Adding a good 6′ 8″ forward to a cast of fair 6′ 8″ forwards does not strenghen a team with so many other problems.

GT Alum

June 21st, 2010
11:55 am

Well, it first depends on if Chills wants to be here or not. If he still bears a grudge against the organization, he may only be useful as a S&T.

Second, is he willing to come off the bench? From what I remember, part of the reason for him leaving was he wasn’t exactly happy with the role of sixth man. Maybe he’s learned to accept his role a little better since then, but I honestly don’t know that he’s even worth keeping if he’s not willing to come off the bench.

If JJ stays, I’d probably have him replace Marvin as a starter. If JJ leaves, I’d probably like him to be the sixth man and have Crawford take JJ’s spot, assuming JJ leaving doesn’t lead to a major roster shake-up. However, I think the coach has to know he’s free to decide how to best use his players, without having to worry about a borderline starter like Chills pouting if he’s used off the bench.

After those 2 questions, it depends on what he could bring back in a trade. We have a pretty good idea what he could give the team, and I believe he would be an asset to the team. The question is can we get a player who would be more valuable to the team by trading him.

Shug

June 21st, 2010
11:57 am

Here’s the deal: make a run at and sign both Wade and LeBron. Then, since those 2 guys couldn’t play together, trade either of them straight up for Kobe, who the Lakers realize is nearing the end. Thus, next year the Hawks, without sacrificing anyone of note on the current roster, could have Kobe and Wade or Kobe and James. Championship 2011, all the way!!!

Rich

June 21st, 2010
11:59 am

Jeff: “Does Josh Childress fit into Hawks’ plans?”

Depends. ASG owns the team. How cheap is he willing to work?

GT Alum

June 21st, 2010
12:06 pm

Shug, what are you on? And do you have enough to share with the rest of the blog?

Rich

June 21st, 2010
12:10 pm

Shug has proven that a person can post on a blog while sleeping. I feel bad for him, in that he has to wake up from that dream to the nightmare of reality.

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Cracker Jacket

June 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

Could have had Obama’s brother-in-law as coach and maybe he could bail out the Hawks!

bigdawg88

June 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

Looking at the few minutes of the game there I sure didn’t see Chills playing defense very much. That’s all we need, another dude who can’t play defense. This is the east, you can’t get away with that here. Trade him to some team out west.

We can’t even bring coolers to the game and the Greeks bring fireworks! That last one looked like a missile! Great security there. On the other hand, it does away with the post-game traffic jams….

JSS

June 21st, 2010
1:51 pm

@ Bigdawg88…
The one thing was never a problem with Childress was his defense. Go back and look at some of the footage while he here…

Najeh Davenpoop

June 21st, 2010
2:31 pm

Either he replaces Marvin or he gets traded. With the DASG’s financial situation and Crawford’s success as the 6th man, it wouldn’t make much sense to pay Chills in excess of $5 million per year to be the 7th man, at least not from the DASG’s perspective. Unless they move Marvin, Chills is gone.

dangerousdan885

June 21st, 2010
2:34 pm

Shug just started following NBA hoops or forgot his meds today. will the Hawks get Josh? I think so. 82 games is a lonnnnggggg season and his flexability would give us great options and keep everyone fresh. Maybe Drew will play more guys than Woody and rotate better. Josh doesn’t play dee so he would be good off the bench for a boost.

MsDee

June 21st, 2010
2:35 pm

Yes, I think Chills fixs into our plans…1) This would be a new beginning for him and coach Drew’s new offense, allowing him to be even more affective going to the basket, or by receiving the ball on a back cut to the basket from Josh or Al Horford. 2) If JJ stays, he could start over Marvin, while the 2nd string is Bibby,Jamal, Marvin,Al move to PF or Morris, & Zaza. 3) If JJ leaves, Jamal starts in his place while 2nd string is, Bibby, Mo Evans, Chills, Al, & Zaza..& 4) It gives the Hawks with 2 players with very high b-ball IQ in Chills and Al Horford…u cant beat that with a stick!!

tjhook

June 21st, 2010
2:43 pm

how about some consideration for bringing back Al Harrington? I think he deserves as much conversation as Childress might. Harrington has inside scoring ability which the Hawks need. Can we open up there as well. Maybe a sign-and-trade to New York for Harrington and a future athlete.

Jerome

June 21st, 2010
2:45 pm

Why know talk of Crawford replacing JJ?

Dwayne

June 21st, 2010
3:24 pm

CHILDRESS???? HAHAHA, WHAT A JOKE THE FIRST TIME HE WAS HERE!!!! HIS NICKNAME IS A JOKE TOO!!!!

JacquePierre

June 21st, 2010
4:02 pm

Any consideration for bringing back Kenny “The Jet” Smith, Al Harrington, Isiah Ryder, Josh Childress, Mark Price, Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, Cliff Levingston, Doc Rivers, Randy Wittman, Tree Rollins, Reggie Theus, Moses Malone, Spud Webb and Mookie Blaylock. Guys just leave it alone and forget about bring back past players and lets just deal with the current roster, OK. Thank you.

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Will

June 21st, 2010
5:15 pm

Sign and trade. Get something worth while for him. If anyone is willing to take him of ATL’s hands then go for it. He isn’t exactly lighting it up over in Greece so why think he would be a great asset on the Hawks again?

no crying

June 21st, 2010
7:45 pm

I think it would be a kick to have Chill back in town. I have missed his play for the Hawks. I am sure the team would welcome him back with open arms and we would all be better for it. I am sure that he would love to come home.

moboman

June 21st, 2010
8:32 pm

We have no need for a 2 that shoots from his waistline. Mo Evans provides just as much hustle, and actually has an offensive game. No more 4 against 5 on offense. Trade him for what ever we can get.

The Big Guy

June 22nd, 2010
9:14 am

Why is he dunking on his own player in that photo?