Ladies and gents: We introduce Chan Gailey … visionary?
Chan Gailey is way ahead of the curve, at least according to Buffalo quarterback Trent Edwards. (AP photo)
Remember how so many Georgia Tech fans would look at Chan Gailey and think, “Vanilla”? Well, Buffalo quarterback Trent Edwards looks at looks at Chan Gailey and thinks, “Bill Walsh,” and “Sid Gillman” and “visionary.”
Gailey generally has had a solid reputation as an NFL assistant. That reputation seldom carried over at Tech, where fans mostly grew weary of seven-win seasons, losing to Georgia and struggling to develop a quarterback. (I’ll post some offensive numbers in a moment.)
But Gailey, now the head coach of the Buffalo Bills after a stopover in Kansas City, is being lauded by Edwards. The quarterback told ESPN’s AFC East blogger, Tim Graham, “I’ll try to explain it as best as I can. I’ve never been around a guy that’s very conscientious of what offensive plays set up other plays. He’s doing a lot of motion and shifting, trying to disguise certain plays so it doesn’t look like the same plays to the defense.
“That’s what’s nice as a quarterback. You’re talking to him and he understands that certain formations we run a lot of the same plays. There’s coordinators that get pretty basic and pretty predictable. I feel like Chan isn’t going to be that predictable. It’s nice to keep the defense off-balance.”
I will grant you that this is Trent Edwards and not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning making the comments. Still, the comments are fairly staggering.
For what it’s worth, this is how Georgia Tech ranked in offense in the ACC during Gailey’s six seasons:
♦ 2002 (9 teams): fifth in total offense, seventh in scoring.
♦ 2003 (9 teams): ninth in total offense, eighth in scoring.
♦ 2004 (11 teams): eighth in offense, seventh in scoring.
♦ 2005 (12 teams): ninth in offense, 10th in scoring.
♦ 2006 (12 teams): third in offense, fifth in scoring.
♦ 2007 (12 teams): third in offense, fifth in scoring.
OK, questions for the masses: Were we missing something, is Edwards missing something, or is the truth somewhere in between
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124 comments Add your comment
Not looking back
May 26th, 2010
11:04 am
Um…Jackets fans got 7 years to evaluate. Trent’s had a few weeks. The truth will come to light.
ogres
May 26th, 2010
11:06 am
Edwards is an idiot. Chan sucks as much now as he did in 2002.
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SOUTH GA DAWG FAN
May 26th, 2010
11:19 am
everybody is a genius in preseason
Alejandro Alejandro
May 26th, 2010
11:22 am
Fire PJ! Bring back Chan!!!
Danga
May 26th, 2010
11:23 am
Wasn’t he thought of as a very good/creative offensive coordinator before he became the GT coach? Maybe the collegiate level just doesn’t fit the man.
JMar
May 26th, 2010
11:23 am
Trent Edwards also isn’t Reggie Ball.
kjax
May 26th, 2010
11:27 am
If you’re going to take all the blame for the bad seasons, then you should at least be able get the credit for the good seasons, right? It would seem to me that, judging by these statistics, Chan Gailey’s final two seasons were his two best offensively at GT, right? I would further argue that 2006 would have been the Sr. year for his first full group of recruits, so it would seem to me that these are the guys HE actually picked for his system. Just going by the numbers, I would say that the guys HE recruited actually performed pretty well under his tutelage. I’m not a GT fan, but that’s not exactly an easy conference you play in down there and you’re most certainly not the first choice of schools for the most talented players in the country. All things considered, I think those stats actually prove the opposite point of the one this article is trying to make!!
Reid Adair
May 26th, 2010
11:29 am
There is a difference between the pro game and the college game. Perhaps Chan Gailey is better suited for the pro game.
We’ll see what Trent Edwards thinks around Week 9 or Week 10 of the NFL season.
William Satterwhite
May 26th, 2010
11:38 am
The main difference is that college football and professional football are completely different animals, the NFL is much more conventional and conservative so someone like Gailey who has indeed shown an ability to think outside of the box to a certain degree (but still within the conservative Pro-style mode) can look like a “visionary”. In the world of college football, where you have coaches like Mike Leach and Paul Johnson who can figure out ways to maximize the strengths of athletes who aren’t prototypical NFL-types while masking their weaknesses, Gailey’s Pro-style approach stuck out like a sore thumb.
Gailey is a good NFL fit because only the best players make the cut (for the most part) so NFL coaching is less about trying to put a system in place that can maximize talents and hide weaknesses, the defenses are (for the most part) so fast that they pick up on anything. In the NFL it comes down to individual play calling and the subtle formation shifts that can expose mismatches, that’s what Chan Gailey does well.
Joe Cox
May 26th, 2010
11:43 am
Chan Gailey: Ginger Genius
PMC
May 26th, 2010
11:45 am
It doesn’t really matter, the Bills are a mess they are up against it playing in that division and they took him because he was cheap.
Coach Gailey knows football very well. He knows how to coach otherwise he wouldn’t keep getting great jobs. I just don’t think it’s going to matter.
JB
May 26th, 2010
11:45 am
They are all from a 5 star background in the NFL…….Chan was dealing with mostly 2 and 3 star “types” at Tech. Although he left some pretty dang good ball players for Johnson. Will be interested to see what type players he has in year 4…..or 5……..I’ll be surprised as many will be if the core “key” players are a good as Gailey left. Not bashing, just saying. I know Johnson will never get a WR as good as Calvin or that number 8 that just left. Just ain’t happening. 11 passes a game for a career average. Tech is a career killer for a WR.
Paul H
May 26th, 2010
11:46 am
As UGA fan, he’s welcome to come back to coach Tech anytime. Then again, last year proved it doesn’t matter who Tech’s coach is…
Ted M
May 26th, 2010
11:54 am
I am rooting Gailey and I’m looking forward to seeing how he uses JC Spiller.
How was Bills defense last year? Anyone?
Who is "JC" Spiller?
May 26th, 2010
12:00 pm
?????
Who is ....
May 26th, 2010
12:01 pm
“JC” Spiller?
Barnacle Bill Bavasi
May 26th, 2010
12:04 pm
Wasn’t it Ralph Wilson who flipped off the Tennessee fans last season? He’s definitely gone ’round the bend, pulling Gailey and Nix off the scrap heap.
Dan
May 26th, 2010
12:05 pm
Do you define a first round pick as a career killer, JB. I suppose as long as facts don’t matter, you’re right.
Chan is a better NFL coach. At least there you can lose 6 times a season and still make the playoffs. In all reality, he’ll probably get them to about 8-8 or 9-7 and they’ll plateau and he’ll be canned for someone who they think can get them to 10 or 11 wins.
kjax
May 26th, 2010
12:08 pm
Bills D was 16th overall in points allowed, which was actually pretty damn respectable considering the fact that their D was on the field far more than any other team in the league due to the O’s inability to stay on the field. Not to mention the fact that, by the end of the year, the Bills were only playing D with 3 or 4 opening day starters due to injury. Jauron was terrible at getting his team ready to play. They played hard, but they weren’t conditioned the right way and the team led the league with 21 players on IR by the end of the year. If they stay healthy, they’ll be a very competitive team.
Ted M
May 26th, 2010
12:09 pm
yup CJ
Ted M
May 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
thanks kjax
kjax
May 26th, 2010
12:11 pm
“Wasn’t it Ralph Wilson who flipped off the Tennessee fans last season? He’s definitely gone ’round the bend, pulling Gailey and Nix off the scrap heap.” Ummm, no, that was the Titans’ owner, Bud Adams, that flipped off Bills fans… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTxHuUGG_2c
Gordon
May 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
Let’s ask “m” what he thinks. I’m not sure he agrees.
JB
May 26th, 2010
12:16 pm
Dan…….. If you were a high school senior in Georgia, 6-3 215 4.5 speed and caught 85 balls for 1586 yards and 17 TD’s with 30 offers, would Tech be on your list. Please don’t give us the usual Tech dribble about a great Education and after football opportunities line. How’s that working out for Reggie Ball. Remind me again what firm he’s with.
JB
May 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
Let’s hope m is not on line today. He would nut up.
messin with sasquatch
May 26th, 2010
12:26 pm
why are we talking about chan again, remind me??
JB
May 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
Gailey won’t succeed in Buffalo for one reason. The owner is not committed to winning. If you are, you don’t hire Chan for 2 mil a year, You hire that square jaw guy from the Steelers sitting at home for 8 mil…………They are looking to exsist, not win.
Ted M
May 26th, 2010
12:39 pm
The square jaw guy recommended Gailey for the job.
Tech Fan Since 1950
May 26th, 2010
12:39 pm
Coach Gailey is a good man and a good coach. He is probably better suited to the NFL, but he did raise the overall talent level on the flats and brought Tech to a new level. It was a plateau he could not top. He did not beat Georgia, did not recruit and develop an outstanding quarterback, and basically was just too conservative, but he did some good things. Best wishes to him at Buffalo.
The Difference
May 26th, 2010
12:41 pm
GT wasn’t happy with 7 win seasons…..the Bills would be ecstatic with a 7 win season.
old gold engineer
May 26th, 2010
12:42 pm
I reckon someone in KC didn’t agree that Chan was an offensive “visionary”. His offenses at GT probably would have fared better had he been able to field a QB that could complete around 60% of his passes instead of under 50%. I always had the feeling when Gailey was at GT that he thought we could end up over .500 and make the playoffs, which would be a successful season in the NFL. Didn’t translate to college, however.
Mike S
May 26th, 2010
12:43 pm
Dan – That First Round pick was one of Chan Gailey’s recruits, not one of Paul Johnson’s. It is Johnson’s system that is a career killer for WR not Gailey’s.
JB – the Bills approached Cowher as their first interview, he turned them down and said he was not interested in coaching this season.
As for Gailey, the key as a new coach in the NFL is getting your team to buy in to your system – it sounds like Trent Edwards has “bought in”. If the
Hmmmmmm!
May 26th, 2010
12:46 pm
sounds like to me they will be running the same play from different formations.
That should be “real” challenging to all of the NFL defenses.
Give em different looks and keep running the same play.
Hmmmmmm!
May 26th, 2010
12:48 pm
Mike S……was it thUGA that had a first round WR draft pick this last year or GT?
I suppose you think being a “1st round” draft pick is a career killer?
Burdell
May 26th, 2010
12:49 pm
JB–
Just wait and see what Stephen Hill does for the Jackets with Bey-Bey gone.
We can still get elite WRs.
indianman
May 26th, 2010
12:50 pm
how many time did coach dailey beat georgia 0
kjax
May 26th, 2010
12:58 pm
“GT wasn’t happy with 7 win seasons…..the Bills would be ecstatic with a 7 win season.” That’s just about the dumbest thing I’ve read on here. The Bills just went 6-10 with three previous seasons at 7-9. It seems as though people listen to what they say on ESPN too much… the Bills are hardly among the league’s worst teams. Perhaps it’s because the league would like everyone to think that the Bills are so bad in order to convince the fans and the franchise that they should actually abandon Buffalo for LA?
Dan
May 26th, 2010
1:00 pm
JB, yeah, I might consider Tech. If I’m an elite receiver, the likelihood is that I’d get the ball about 6 times a game in Tech’s offense.
By the way, how’s that pro-style offense working out for Kregg Lumpkin, Dany Ware, Thomas Brown, David Greene, DJ Shockley, Joe Tereshinski, Joe Cox, etc., etc. etc…
Barnacle Bill Bavasi
May 26th, 2010
1:01 pm
Thanks Ajax. So, now we know Adams and Wilson have gone ’round the bend, along with Al Davis.
kjax
May 26th, 2010
1:07 pm
Read about Nix’s recent accomplishments… Yeah, he’s coming right off the scrap heap, Bill.
Nix’s job with the Chargers was to oversee both pro and college scouting and to be one of the main decision makers in each NFL Draft. Nix was a major reason the Chargers turned around from a losing football team to a rebuilt, winning team. In 2004, three players Nix drafted were selected to the 2005 Pro Bowl. In 2005, six players Nix drafted were selected to the 2006 Pro Bowl. In 2006, eleven players Nix drafted were selected to the 2007 Pro Bowl. In 2007, eight players Nix drafted were selected to the 2008 Pro Bowl.
The Chargers won four out of the last five AFC West titles with Nix as Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel, in charge of college scouting and instrumental to the decision making process of their NFL drafts.
Roll on Chan
May 26th, 2010
1:09 pm
Gailey is perhaps the greatest coach in the history of ga tech to never win a backdated national unrecognized title , and its a shame
ROLL TIDE
Paddy
May 26th, 2010
1:16 pm
Chan will prove he has great offensive vison, until….Buffalo play a team that has a defensive coordinator, !
JB
May 26th, 2010
1:30 pm
Dan….I’m back from lunch……….Listen, I’m not a Tech hater, although I am a Dawg fan……I’m just saying that if you were a kid with those stats I mentioned and you sat down with you dad and high school coach, Tech would not be high on the list UNLESS you were interested in a degree from Tech, then the point in mute. If you hope to get to the next level at WR, TECH and JOHNSON are not for you.
I make the point about Reggie because because a lot of your fellow bloggers on here think that if you don’t go to Tech, you’ll be picking peach’s your whole life. Tech is a wonderful education, but NOT the only one.
Cracker Jacket
May 26th, 2010
1:33 pm
Gailey will do fine in Buffalo. The jury is still out with Johnson. Winning with Gailey’s players is one thing but doing as well with his recruits may be more difficult!
Bob in SF
May 26th, 2010
1:34 pm
Generally college coaches play to win and NFL coaches play not to lose, that was a big reason Chan didn’t succeed at Tech. Also he was too conservative for the college game and never could develop players, QB’s in particular, without the massive amounts of classroom time players get in the NFL. But in his defense he has put up some pretty good pro offenses at Pittsburgh, Miami and even KC. KC might have been terrible but he them scoring some points out of a spread hybrid when he was OC there. Buffalo is a bad job with not very good players so Chan seems doomed to failure there regardless of his qualifications.
wiley
May 26th, 2010
1:38 pm
He may very well be a great NFL coach but he def didn’t know much about running a successful offense on the college level. Good luck Chan…thanks for the 2007 class.
Dan
May 26th, 2010
1:40 pm
Agreed, JB. There are plenty of successful folks from UGA. You may be one of them. I understand that there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Along the same lines. you don’t have to play in a pro-style offense to be successful at receiver. Let’s be real here – UGA has the best WR in the country but he isn’t going to be a top 5 pick because of his production. He’s going to be a top 5 pick because of his ridiculous athleticism. If he went to Tech, he’d still be a top 5 pick. The point is that it’s about the talent of the player not the system he plays in. To your other point about the narrow curriculum at Tech – fair point. If you want to major in history, Tech isn’t the place for you.
Dan
May 26th, 2010
1:43 pm
Mike S – Bay Bay fourished in CPJ’s offense. I don’t understand how that – combined with his status as a new multimillionaire and first round pick – reflects a career killer for WR. And I don’t see how it’s relevant that he was recruited by Chan. He’s proof that you can succeed in CPJ’s offense.
wiley
May 26th, 2010
1:43 pm
JB…our offense only needs one dominant receiver…you saw how well it worked with D. Thomas. If I was an elite receiver…I would jump at the chance to be the only big time passing threat in an offense like Johnsons. That means you get all the hype and inflated stats because most of the passes come your way….I mean some pro style offenses fling it almost every down but each receiver is only getting 4-6 passes a game. Both offense types can produce elite receivers….Thomas proved that this year. He played two years in this offense and it did not hurt his draft stock at all. In fact I think it helped it…
The Tone
May 26th, 2010
1:45 pm
Buffalo is so bad TO was considered a breath of fresh air .
Dan
May 26th, 2010
1:47 pm
JB – fair enough. I understand that lots of UGA grads are successful. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
By the same token, you don’t have to play in a pro-style offense to get to the League. Let’s be real here – UGA has the best WR in the country. But he isn’t going to be a top 10 pick next April because of his production. He’s going to be a top 10 pick because of his ridiculous athleticism.
And fair point about the narrow curriculum at Tech. If you want to be a history or arts major, Tech isn’t the place for you. But you can’t say that Tech is a poor choice for a WR that wants to get to the NFL because the facts don’t support it.
Robert
May 26th, 2010
1:47 pm
Gailey sucks, he was an idiot and an embarrassment. He will drive the Bills all the way to Toronto. The only thing he knows about offense is how NOT to score. GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH.
Slick Willie
May 26th, 2010
1:48 pm
If PJ keeps getting thumped in bowl games, Tech fans may start pining for the good old Chan Gailey era!!
JUST MELLER TODAY
May 26th, 2010
1:54 pm
whats with all the hostility Gailey wasn’t that bad , he is just not a super hero like CPJ but there are very few like CPJ i predict he will be at tech 20 years and win 8 or 9 acc championships once he gets his own players.
Dan
May 26th, 2010
1:54 pm
JB – fair enough. I get that UGA grads are often successful. You may be one of them. I also understand that there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Along those lines, you can play in CPJ’s offense and still get to the League. Let’s be real here – UGA has the best WR in the country. But he’s not going to be a top 10 pick next year because of his production. He’ll be a top 10 pick because of his ridiculous athleticism. The point is that it’s about talent, not the system.
Fair point about the narrow curriculum at Tech. Although it’s gotten a bit broader, it’s fair to say that if you want to be a history major, Tech isn’t the place for you. That issue aside, you can’t say that Tech isn’t the place for a WR that wants to play in the NFL because the facts don’t support it.
kjax
May 26th, 2010
1:55 pm
Hey, I actually remember a time when the New Orleans Saints head coaching position was a “bad job with not very good players.” Yeah, that was 2006, when Sean Payton took over as HC following a DISMAL 3-13 season. While I hardly expect the Bills to win a SB, they haven’t had a season that bad since 2001, when Greg Williams was the sorry excuse for a HC. Other than that one season, the Bills have actually been pretty competitive. Do some research before you make comments like that. I have no idea how Chan and the Bills will do, but they’re not nearly as bad as ESPN and NFL.com will have you believe.
GT Alum
May 26th, 2010
1:58 pm
Also, about CPJ’s offense being a WR-killer — as Dan pointed out, Thomas was recruited by Gailey, but he put up the numbers that made him the first WR picked in the draft under Johnson. Also, Johnson himself has said he’d like to pass more often. However, he didn’t have the WR corps he felt he needed to do so last year, and Nesbitt honestly hasn’t shown himself to be a better passer than Ball was.
The 2 main reason’s Nesbitt’s a hero and Ball’s a zero to Tech fans are CPJ’s offense and Nesbitt’s size and toughness.
Sure, there will be some top recruits that look at CPJ’s offense and will think going to a program that runs a pro-style offense will give them a better chance in the draft and the NFL. However, that doesn’t mean they’ll be any more right than the people who said his offense wouldn’t work in a conference like the ACC.
old gold engineer
May 26th, 2010
2:00 pm
Slick Willie, bowl games in the Gailey era at GT were nothing to pine over.
GT
May 26th, 2010
2:08 pm
He wore me out when he was here, nuff said
GT Alum
May 26th, 2010
2:09 pm
Slick Willie, Tech won 2 of the bowls they went to under Gailey, the Humanitarian Bowl against Tulsa and the Champs Sports Bowl against Syracuse. UGA fans may be satisfied with winning lower tier bowls, but I’m happy CPJ at least has us playing in bowls that people care about. Hopefully, his next step is to get us to win some bowls people care about.
Justin Case
May 26th, 2010
2:09 pm
Just in case you didn’t know it. The Bills will be no better than the Bills from last year. Why you say? No Kelly, No Thurman Thomas, No JR Reed and No Marv Levy and No Cornbread Bennett!!
a great point
May 26th, 2010
2:23 pm
whoever made the comment about Chan the Man being better suited for NFL style offenses is correct. back in the day, (when he was steelers o.c.) he was quite the hot commodity. then he made a couple of stops in the NFL with poor results.
college ball is all about setting up a system and recruiting /tweaking that system so that it works for the players you have.
i think the guy may be a great coordinator, but not a great head coach.
but then again, what do I know….i’m posting on a blog and he’s making 6 figures a year to coach football……
GT BABY
May 26th, 2010
2:28 pm
gailey sucks
JB
May 26th, 2010
2:30 pm
As a Tech fan, I would have more questions than answers about where the Tech program goes from here ( as do my Dawgs)……I mean by that, Tech will always win 8,9 games or so under Johnson, because I have seen it work. My question would be do they have the players on D to stop a good team.
IL Jacket
May 26th, 2010
2:33 pm
Chan does seem to be in a tough place in Buffalo-not much talent and in the
division with NE & NYJ. The one saving grace is T.O. is gone.
I wish you great success in Buffalo.
Ramblin Wrecker
May 26th, 2010
2:41 pm
I will concede that Gailey was a decent offensive coach in the NFL. But what passes as decent in the NFL is not going to do much in college. The NFL is a pretty vanilla league where conservative is rewarded (I mean look at how they treat QB’s who aren’t conventional mold QB’s, like Tebow or Vick), mainly because winning 58% of your games is good enough to GET to the playoffs. In college winning 58% of your games will barely get you bowl eligible.
Think about it. 7-5 is the same as 9-7 percentage wise. Gailey was basically the same coach at GT than he was at Dallas. But because the NFL has a playoff system, his performance was good enough. But simply getting to a bowl doesn’t move the meter in college. And because of the system in college, coaches have to take more risks (i.e. more risks on offense or in other words the anti-Gailey style) in order to reap the larger rewards of a bigger bowl, league championship or a BCS bowl.
If you notice, nothing in what Trent Edwards said suggests that Gailey comes to the table with some radical offense that will light up the league. He’s simply saying that Gailey does a good job of disguising the same plays with motion and shifting. The key to that was “same plays”. Gailey is a conservative guy who will run the same low risk plays over and over. There’s nothing revolutionary in what Gailey is doing or what Edwards was commenting on.
Whopper Dawg
May 26th, 2010
2:42 pm
Yeah, they are missing something, like playing a game and a season. The shine will soon come off that ex-Tech apple.
GT BABY
May 26th, 2010
2:59 pm
JB- YOU’RE A FREAKING IDIOT! GT HAS PUT OUT 2 NUMBER 1 WR IN THE NFL IN THE PAST THREE YEARS. S HILL WILL BE THE NEXT, BANK ON IT!
dan
May 26th, 2010
3:00 pm
Goods points William Satterwhite.
I would add that in the college game, you really have to get into a player’s head and develop them mentally and emotionally. That time in college, between 18-22 years old, is a fun/volatile time, and the players are learning how to handle the scrutiny of success and defeat. In the pro’s, players are paid to do a job and understand the relationship with the media. And they understand that if they don’t perform up to expectations, they’ll be gone.
Paul in RDU
May 26th, 2010
3:07 pm
Someone needs to show Trent Edwards the film of the GT-WF ACCCG and then see what he says about Chan
JB
May 26th, 2010
3:31 pm
GT BABY,,,,,,,,,Sorry, those would be BPJ…………..( before Paul Johnson) We’ll see the next 2-3 years………Any WR commits for next year yet ?
Ted M
May 26th, 2010
3:35 pm
He’s making 7 figures.
Suffering Bills Fan and GT Season Ticket Holder
May 26th, 2010
4:10 pm
Trent is sayig these things because he has yet to work with an experienced OC in the NFL. He’s had a bunch of guys that were either getting tujeir first gig or wre terrible at their jobs. And it was all under a guy in Dick Jauron that was clearly in over his head. Of course Chan is going to look like an offensive savant compared to the dudes Trent has been listening to for the past three years!
m
May 26th, 2010
4:17 pm
gomer gailey is the worst coach in history. The Buffalo Bills are just plain stupid for hiring gomer.
Everyone can take solace in the fact that no matter what you EVER do…you can NEVER do something as stupid as hiring gomer.
Thanks to God and Greyhound that gomer gailey is gone from Tech FOREVER!!
gdawginkalamazoo
May 26th, 2010
4:20 pm
Wasn’t Gailey responsible for selecting and starting Reggie Ball for four years? I thought that was a genius type move.
gdawginkalamazoo
May 26th, 2010
4:33 pm
But really, Chan seemed liked a nice guy and is well respected in the NFL. Good luck to him.
Rick
May 26th, 2010
4:44 pm
Bill Cowher thought so much of Chan that when he retired from the coaching the steelers Chan was the only coach that he recommended the steelers to interview for the vacancy.
Pat Mycrotch
May 26th, 2010
4:44 pm
You Must Be BORED!
HugoStiglitz
May 26th, 2010
5:20 pm
Chan may become a great NFL coach but he was never right for the college level. They are two different games and I think he understands one better then the other. Best of luck to him though. It wont be easy turning the Bills around.
roger
May 26th, 2010
5:55 pm
When are you going to get off Chans back? When his talent is gone we will see about this high school offense! Dont you have any body else to criticize?
Delbert D.
May 26th, 2010
6:09 pm
“everybody is a genius in preseason”
Kansas City didn’t think so. They demoted him and relieved him of play-calling duties him in preseason last year.
kenb
May 26th, 2010
6:09 pm
no talent bills? not competitive? lets just say with all thier injurys last season, 3 mediocre qbs, 2 different h.c. and oc’s they still went 6-10 and 6 of those loses were by a td or less!!
kenb
May 26th, 2010
6:15 pm
the talent is there i billeve! bills are in probably the hardest confrence in nfl! they beat the jets and almost beat NE. they are not a roll over and die team like media leads us to believe
Mike
May 26th, 2010
6:27 pm
The only reason Tech fans rag Chan is the fact he never beat Georgia. That is all they care about. They delude themselves into thinking they should have beaten Georgia all those years. 2006 is the only year Tech should have legitimately beaten Georgia. Every other year, Georgia was more than solid on both sides of the ball.
So now Johnson is a hero because A) He beat a Georgia team with a world of problems they never had when Chan played them. B) he wins an ACC title beating the same Clemson team that Gailey absolutely OWNED.
Seriously, this guy built Tech into relevance in both the ACC and national recruiting after enduring sanctions thanks to O’Leary playing ineligible players. His last full recruiting class was rated higher than Georgia’s (you know, the one Johnson has been enjoying). His 2008 class was projected top 15 before he got fired.
Chan did not run the offense at Tech, Nix did. Oh by the way, Nix got fired from his next job at Miami too. You see what a difference that made for them.
Tech was a good OC under Gailey away from being what their fans wanted them to be.
Jerry Jones even said he made a mistake getting rid of Chan like he did. Give the man his due and stop crying over losing to Georgia.
AA
May 26th, 2010
6:50 pm
JB-
you must be a ugay fan to make comments like that. Obviously you didn’t watch B.Thomas this year. To say Tech is a WR killer is the worst comment I’ve ever heard. Did you not see Thomas get drafted in the first round. Then to say PJ will never get another good WR is another dumb comment. PJ already has one in Stephen Hill. He’s taller, faster and has better hands than Thomas and will end up being just as good or better. So do your homework before you blog again.
THWG !!!!!!
Born2Buzz
May 26th, 2010
6:50 pm
Hey Mike, Tech fans rag Chan because of a lot of things, such as having the worst losses to both of our main rivals, UGA and Clemson, IN SCHOOL HISTORY. Chan had a few nice wins, beating Auburn twice and Clemson a few times (I wouldn’t say he owned them..look at the records) and once at VT, but he also had some horrible losses like losing to Duke and the memorable loss to Wake in the ACC CG when he had the best WR in the nation and the best RB in the ACC. The fact that he hitched himself to Reggie Ball for 4 years says something right there.
As for his offensive game planning, look at what GT did in the years before Chan and then the years after Chan. It was a pretty significant drop when he took over and a significant rise once he left.
And look at his tenure @ KC. Ugh.
Good luck Buffalo.
"Chef" Tim Dix
May 26th, 2010
6:57 pm
His resume was a vision.
AA
May 26th, 2010
8:08 pm
Mike-
you know nothing about college football. Look what happened to the offensive stats when O’leary left. They dropped drastically. Then when your boy Chan left the improved drastically. So between O’leary, Gailey and PJ, who’s the odd man out? Chan was never better than mediocre. He was stubborn and hardheaded and refused to change anything. When a QB’s freshman year is his best year that reflects on terrible coaching. O’leary and PJ wouldve turned Ball into a good QB but your boy Chan couldn’t because he’s mediocre. Just ask Dallas, Pitt, KC and Tech. Wait a year and Buffalo will tell you the same thing. I just happened to be at Duke when we got drilled by the blue devils, thanks to Chan. Anybody that defends Gailey knows nothing about college football.
THWG !!!!!!!!
Albert Einstein
May 26th, 2010
8:23 pm
JB
Do you realize how many college kids make it to the next level? Go look it up. Look at the percentage. You better have an education to fall back on!
Albert Einstein
May 26th, 2010
8:27 pm
One other comment…I did not go to either UGA or Tech, but I do know a degree from GT is worth 2 to 3 times what a degree is from UGA.
that's the fact jack
May 26th, 2010
8:53 pm
glad he is goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…if your seeing visions in Buffalo, ha, good luck with that
superDawg
May 26th, 2010
8:55 pm
m drives a greyhound bus and is still in layover near buffalo.
Red&Black
May 26th, 2010
9:42 pm
Guess GT will never know. He certainly got better as the stats show and his 2007 recruiting class was terrific. He certainly would have improved those numbers. Tech has been riding on his recruits. Yet to see if Johnson can recruit. So far…I doubt it.
Albert Einstein
May 26th, 2010
9:57 pm
He recruited a better DC than the dawgs.
StingerSplash
May 26th, 2010
10:04 pm
Can’t say those numbers from Chan’s tenure at Tech would inspire confidence in anybody. In fact, by and large, they would need to improve greatly just to be pedestrian.
sj
May 26th, 2010
10:06 pm
johnson’s only won everywhere he’s ever been for 20+ years. he’ll get it done at gt.
JACKETTE
May 26th, 2010
10:09 pm
what you all failed to remember, Chan was interviewing for both the Steelers and Dolphins head coaching job. Chan was only 1 of 2 that had a 2nd interview with the Dolphins and was picked up by their plane and flown to Miami for it. He wasn’t chosen and came back to GT announcing later that afternoon that he decided to stay at GT when ESPN had already said 2 hrs earlier Gailey wasn’t being considered for the Dolphin’s job anymore. So, alot of GT fans grew weary of him at that point coupled with not winning the ACC championship vs Wake in 2006 with Calvin Johnson. To top it off, Reggie Ball flunked out of school and was unable to play in the Gator Bowl. Were the coaches not keeping an eye out on that? I mean, Ball was Tech’s 4 yr starter chosen by Chan and then no one paid attention to his academics so that he could not play in his last game. Then in 2007, Taylor Bennett did a pretty good job as qb which made you wonder why did Chan have him sit behind Reggie Ball all that time? Too much cr@p to be encouraged as a Tech fan to go on any further with the program remaining the same.
sj
May 26th, 2010
10:10 pm
he’s already accomplished more in a few years with chan’s players than chan accomplished with chan’s players
Burgess
May 26th, 2010
10:29 pm
Paul Johnson won his first 2 years with Gailey’s players…..let’s see what he does now. I’m betting he falls flat on his face.
vtfs
May 26th, 2010
11:37 pm
you know, Kansas City didn’t think too much of Chan either firing him as their offensive coordinator after one season..
Burgess
May 27th, 2010
1:03 am
You idiot, KC’s new head coach came in……he was an OC himself…….and fired Gailey during preseason. KC sure turned it around after Gailey left……..didn’tn they ?…LOL
How many super bowls have you coached in ? Let’s see, Chan won a national championship at Troy. Coached Birmingham to the championship game in the World League.
Jerry Jones has said that firing Gailey was the biggest mistakes he’s ever made in football.
You people are unbelievable.
Crabkilla
May 27th, 2010
7:49 am
Look into my eyes……SURPRISE!!! I’m a Falcon!!!
jadams
May 27th, 2010
8:47 am
Anyone who is definding chan obviously likes to loose. in my experiance winning is much more fun that loosing. To say tech is a reciver killer…you must be an idiot. Do you think BeBe goes first round if he doesnt put up the gaudy numbers he did. Im going to bet not. This offense helped him and his draft status. Gailey sucks always has and always will. If you like gailey you like to loose. Im sure a few of you on here do enjoy loosing but not this Tech fan
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9:07 am
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Matt "Choke" Ryan
May 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
While reading a Falcons article on NFL ranks in 2009 in throwing the deep ball. The Falcons, not surprisingly ranked 23rd in the league with only 31 pass plays of 20 yards or more.
Joe Flacco unsurprisingly ranked much higher with 44 passes of 20 yards or more and that without the receiving talent that the Falcons have.
Once again, I keep telling you people, the Falcons should have drafted Flacco. His passing percentage was higher and he has the necessary strong arm for an NFL quarterback.
kcgtfan
May 27th, 2010
1:34 pm
All of a sudden, it’s really amazing what an incredible recruiter Gailey was for GT. Huh?? His supposedly incredible class with Dwyer, Morgan Burnett was ranked between 15-20th nationally. His other classes were ranked in the 40s or 50s. Not to long ago I remember all the posts about how horrible Gailey’s recruiting classes were. So which is it?
Bob Murphy
May 27th, 2010
3:23 pm
I must be missing something. You are under the impression that a coach makes the team. Players have nothing to do with it. So all the past and present top coaches have always had winning seasons and have always been at the top of the list on offense and defense. Before ripping a coach you should do a little research.
Bob
May 27th, 2010
3:25 pm
jadams Your a idiot
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3:43 pm
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Golden Tornada
May 27th, 2010
5:21 pm
Hey, when you get booed at home while making a public service announcement, well that just about says it all.
SirReal
May 28th, 2010
7:17 am
Sounds like Edwards is just puckering up for a starting job….
Dubious
May 30th, 2010
9:56 am
Over/under for Chan in Buffalo is 2 seasons….At Tech he was just good enough to get you beat….case in point: the last three games of his best season at Tech, 2006….Tech was 9-2 and on the brink of a special season…..What happened in those three games vs. UGa, WF ,and WVU? They lost them all by a field goal, despite Tashard running for over 100 yards in each game. That is hard to do.
Yukamumbo
May 30th, 2010
10:55 am
JB, what’s a “mute” point? Is that one that doesn’t talk? Is that somewhat related to a “mime point?”
Let’s look up the word “mute” in dictionary.com:
moot1 /mut/ Show Spelled[moot] Show IPA
–adjective
1.open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2.of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3.Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.
–verb (used with object)
4.to present or introduce (any point, subject, project, etc.) for discussion.
5.to reduce or remove the practical significance of; make purely theoretical or academic.
6.Archaic. to argue (a case), esp. in a mock court.
–noun
7.an assembly of the people in early England exercising political, administrative, and judicial powers.
8.an argument or discussion, esp. of a hypothetical legal case.
9.Obsolete. a debate, argument, or discussion.
Is this more in line with what you were looking for?
LOL
ATL XMAN
May 30th, 2010
12:27 pm
gaily is a good coach but the level of talent that tech has on campus were mostly leftovers from the better college football teams. he had a few good players and now they are playing in the NFL but not enough. just think what tech will do now that PJ div 1aa players are playing out there. any team in college football that runs that type of offense that PJ likes to run will only recruit div 1aa players. most of the better players prefer to play in a college or pro style offense so that they will actually get better at football and have a shot at making an NFL team one day. good thing these PJ recruits will have a good degree to fall back on when the college football days are done.
ATL XMAN
May 30th, 2010
12:39 pm
all you tech fans have to do is match up a recruit that is recruited by PJ to play on the offense. compare their weight, height and overall high school career to any of the UGA recruits that richt recruited or any other SEC or ACC team recruited and look how much the talent level drops and difference in weight and height. your guys will need to be redhirted 2 years before they can even hang with those guys so they wont get seriously injured while playing them. the offlinemen he has coming in are giving up 20 to 30 pounds or more. their quickness wont help as they wiil get flatten by the bigger quicker defensive linemen.pj qb’s are either too short and lite or too tall and skinny. bothe types will get get crushed from them beating OJ qb”s take every play. his running backs are mostly converted corners or qbs that are too dumb to play quarterback. and again are just too little to take the beating that dwyer took the past two years every play. even when the running back didnt have the ball. that no fun at all. Ga tech is in trouble strting this year..they might win 8 ganes but next year i will be surprised if they win 6 as they only play few div 1aa teams.
silly uga fans
May 30th, 2010
1:50 pm
JB and Mike S,
I agree with you that most WR won’t look at GT as a first choise, but how can you say that it is a WR killer. The first WR picked in the draft came from GT and that has nothing to do with his freshman stats under Gailey or who recruited him. It is true that CPJ’s system does lack some aspects that pro teams will look for in a WR but it also develops others. I guess we will all have to wait and see what Hill is able to do to prove anybody’s point though.
silly uga fans
May 30th, 2010
2:14 pm
atl xman,
Considering that maybe 10% percent of that hate and dribble you predict will happen to GT and CPJ has happened yet I’ll take my chances. Good luck stopping Hill, Nesbitt, Allen, Cox, Jones, and the crew this year and good luck against Washington, Jackson, Perkins and the crew the year after. The D will do fine under Groh and as we all witnessed he recruited fine with no recruiting time, and he will kill it down the road.
blackprix
May 31st, 2010
2:14 am
Isn’t Trent Edwards the QB whose had multiple concussions??? I doubt Edwards has ever had a decent OC and now he THINKS he’s got one, too many hits to the head will cause delusions of grandeur!
Chan has been and will continue to be mediocre at best. Nothing ventured, nothing gained with Chan Gailey!
blackprix
May 31st, 2010
2:18 am
Remember when Chan had his lst news conference in Buffalo and talked about other coaches not wanting the job and him saying ‘he was GLAD TO BE THERE’ … of course he’s glad to be there … it’s the ONLY place that wanted him!
What did they go through … 10 candidated who said no before he said yes. I know the Buffalo fans wished he had said no as well … poor Buffalo!
Stinger
May 31st, 2010
8:30 am
For you idiots who say, “Paul Johnson is winning with Chan Gaileys players and we’ll see how he does with his own recruits.” Navy is still winning with Paul Johnson’s recruits and have been ranked higher than UGA, just as Tech is. Suck on that for a while.
Stinger
May 31st, 2010
8:35 am
Mark “Fake Tan” Richt can’t win with 5 Star players. He couldn’t even win with NFL players, so don’t get so excited about your over rated recruits.
Dafni Steevi
June 1st, 2010
10:42 pm
Coach Gailey knows football very well. He knows how to coach otherwise he wouldn’t keep getting great jobs.
handbags
bills fan
June 8th, 2010
11:02 am
You’re missing what edwards is comparing him to. Dick Jauran and Alex Van Pelt.