Johnson, Woodson get hammered by national media

By the end of the game Saturday night, this cheer sign, cheer towel and Hawks players were on the ground. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Some fans had no desire to bring their cheer cards and towels home with them after the game. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Checked StubHub this morning. You can buy playoff tickets for as low as $6 for the Hawks’ likely season exit Monday night against Orlando. Wait a while. They’ll go down.

After all of the progress they’ve made over the past three years, the Hawks woke up as a severely damaged product this morning.

They have lost three games to the Orlando by 87 points. They have suffered the worst home defeat of the season and the worst home playoff loss in franchise history (Saturday’s 105-75 loss). They’re only the fourth team in league history to drop two games in a playoff series by 30 or more points.

Also, Joe Johnson said he doesn’t care if you show up or not.

So what were the national reviews? About what you would expect.

From Chris Sheridan of ESPN:

“Joe, do you think you are costing yourself money?” That was the question posed to Joe Johnson after one of the more lackluster playoff performances a supposed max-salary player had played since the term “max-salary player” was added to the NBA lexicon in 1999.

And even more unbelievable than his performance and that of his teammates was Johnson’s answer: “No.”

Let me try to get this straight: In one of the final games this highly talented player will perform in before becoming an unrestricted free agent July 1, Johnson attempted 15 shots, missed 12 of them, was booed repeatedly and loudly and had about as much impact on the outcome as teammate Mario West, who was inactive. Memo to Johnson: Go back and take a look at what the Dow Jones did last Thursday. …  Read up on what’s happening with the economic crisis in Greece, where the word “plummet” is being redefined downward with each passing day.

From Tim Povtak of AOL Fanhouse:

The Hawks waited 12 long years to have another 50-win season like this one. Too bad it’s ending in disaster.

It wasn’t worth the wait.

These aren’t growing pains anymore, a young team trying to find its way, a route these Hawks previously traveled. They look more like chemistry issues, a team that comes home for Game 3, and treats its paying customers to the biggest disappointment of the season.

“They deserve to be pissed off. The way we played, the fans deserve to be upset,” said Hawks forward Marvin Williams. “If your team lost by 30 in the playoffs, wouldn’t you be upset? If you get blown out like that, effort is always a factor.”

From Shaun Powell of NBA.com:

It’s been a hard and violent fall for Johnson and Atlanta the last few weeks, squeezing out a 7-game series against the Bucks, then enduring an ongoing Dwightmare in the Eastern Conference semifinals. And when they finally reach bottom with a splat, the pieces of their once-promising season could scatter and blow away.

Meaning, coach Mike Woodson, on the final year of his contract, will not be invited back. Same for Johnson, a free agent this summer, especially after insulting the fans as well as his team with poor play in this post-season. Losing by 43 in Game 1 was more graceful than refusing to compete at home in Game 3, bowing out by 30. Swiftly and suddenly, the Hawks went from soaring to sulking, from being admired to being disgraced.

But the demise of the Hawks actually began against the undermanned Bucks. Being taken to the limit by a team missing its best player wasn’t a good reflection on Woodson. Whether true or not, it gave the appearance the Bucks were better coached and prepared.

From Frank Hughes of SI.com:

You’d think that a coach who takes a team to the second round of the playoffs would be safe, but there are mitigating circumstances. First, Woodson is not general manager Rick Sund’s coach; Sund inherited Woodson when he took over for Billy Knight. Secondly, this Hawks team has raised many questions, and not just because it lost all three of these games by double digits and two of the three by at least 30 points. These problems started in the first round, after two dominating wins over Milwaukee was followed by three straight losses and forced Atlanta to win two life-or-death games in order to advance. Whether these issues are Woodson-related or chemistry-related are for Sund to answer, but they certainly are present, probably the reason the circumspect Sund has not given Woodson a contract extension.

From Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel:

This was not a basketball game so much as it was a funeral march. The only thing missing from the pre-game introductions was a lone bugler playing Taps as the Magic carried a coffin draped in a Hawks banner out to midcourt.

This was no coliseum; it was a mausoleum, a place where NBA atmosphere comes to die.

You call this place an NBA playoff basketball crowd. It looked more like a WNBA midseason crowd.

“It’s no wonder that Gone With the Wind author [Margaret] Mitchell was born in Atlanta: Frankly, my dear, this city doesn’t give a damn about the Hawks. And the feeling seems to be mutual.

The Hawks made a statement to everybody.

Just the wrong one.

There wasn't much reason for anybody to hold up their head. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

There wasn't much reason for anybody to hold up their head. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

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213 comments Add your comment

falcondawg

May 9th, 2010
11:07 am

$6 for Hawks tickets on Stub Hub? I would rather go to McDonalds for a value meal

SECya

May 9th, 2010
11:15 am

Joe Johnson and Josh Smith are two of the most gutless cowards in the NBA. They have no pride in their own work, effort, or outcome. They sulk and pout all game long expecting things to be handed to them. This is the NBA playoffs men, nothing is handed to you. Especially not the best team in the NBA. Grow up and get out!!!

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 9th, 2010
11:17 am

You will have to pay me to go to any NBA game.

JJ

May 9th, 2010
11:19 am

Woodys No Goody

May 9th, 2010
11:20 am

NOW YOU KNOW!

Come to the game

May 9th, 2010
11:23 am

New Marketing Slogan: Come visit the Orlando Highlight Factory on Monday!

bruce mac

May 9th, 2010
11:25 am

I realize Josh complains all the time but at least he cares enough to get upset. I think Josh will be fine and everyone loves Horford and Crawford. IMO, let Johnson go as he is a solid citizen but we need some fire. If he is out there get a mean azz inside presence and a new coach and lets go to work. This team needs a major face lift not a head amputation.

Princess's Own

May 9th, 2010
11:26 am

sorry but bump josh smith right now!! the focus is on Joe, don’t be surprised when you see that Joe has been traded or is gone I know I won’t. a new coach is going to come in Rick needs to go out and find a coach is all about winning pushing his team to the limit this season is over now we have the ‘10-’11 season to think about and this time i def. won’t get my hopes up

SWAT Native

May 9th, 2010
11:26 am

I got an email from the Hawks after the game saying that they had discounted may seats to $10 or $20. I already had a gotten a “complimentary” ticket that they had offered to season ticket holders before last night’s game. Especially after Joe’s comment, I’m thinking about not using it. I’m sorry I paid $85 to see that sorry display last night.

Come to the game

May 9th, 2010
11:27 am

Anybody outside his momma who applauds Joe Johnson when lineups are announced Monday is a d@mn fool who deserves to be played for a fool.

SWAT Native

May 9th, 2010
11:27 am

I don’t understand why everyone is singling out Josh Smith for criticism. He actually played one of the better games last night with 15 and 10.

Phillip

May 9th, 2010
11:27 am

Frankly, I can’t wait until Joe and Woody are gone. Really looking forward to seeing some changes this offseason.

Speedy Claxton's accountant

May 9th, 2010
11:31 am

So long Joe. Adios Woody. Call us when you develop a half court offense. It is a sad day. I have have been a fan since Hubie Brown was coach, and this really stinks.

Come to the game; with a gameplan

May 9th, 2010
11:31 am

What’s the best response for Joe Monday? Boo Joe, or greet him with total silence? Or greet him with chants of Jo-seph, Jo-seph, like the Mets’ fans do to Larry “Chipper” Jones?

Beatscape

May 9th, 2010
11:37 am

** JOE JOHNSON IS POISON AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE HAWKS! **

- He is the antithesis of leader with the emotional motivation of a slug. He never smiles or shows any positive emotion. How can he even be considered a team leader?! With his unmotivated example, he literally de-motivates the team. Who designated him the team leader anyway?!?

- His offensive move is predictable and easy to defend against. He dribbles too much and makes his offensive intent too obvious to defenders and therefore very easy to double-team. Plus, I’ve never seen an NBA player miss so many layups!!

- The fans ultimately make him a star and pay his exorbitant salary. If he is dumb enough to openly dis the fans after a dismal performance in the most crucial game of the season, then he is a certified fool. He should have profusely apologized.

If I was the hawks owner, I would have canned Joe Johnson last season. We have some great players in Horford, Josh Smith, Crawford, Williams. Get rid of Joe—he is poison!

Joe's character flaw

May 9th, 2010
11:39 am

Has Joe even bothered to issue a retraction, apology, or at the very least a clarification?

If not, shows you all you need to know about Joe.

Joe the Plumber > Joe Johnson
Joe Dirt > Joe Johnson
Joe Biden’s hairplugs > Joe Johnson

hollywould

May 9th, 2010
11:44 am

Joe Johnson showed his true colors on the fan remark. Maybe that is why he doesn’t open his mouth much. He might make the globetrotters even more fun as I will admit he is a good dribbler. Playoff choker is Joe Johnson. Told you 2 weeks ago they would get swept.
The worst part is they will never be any better. As that one scribe said ” They are nothing but an AAU team.” Good atheletes but no concept of team basketball. Joke to watch!!! Football is right around the corner

Barton

May 9th, 2010
11:47 am

We know why Joe doesn’t care if fans show up, he can’t bear to hear another 48 minutes of booing. They aren’t any nicer in New York, Joe. Don’t think we don’t appreciate your 40 point games against the Memphis Grizzilies, we do, but don’t think you deserve a max-contract like Kobe and Dwayne Wade, you don’t.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 9th, 2010
11:48 am

It is the NBA! Why does anybody care?

Buzz29

May 9th, 2010
11:49 am

Has Joe Johnson replaced Hewitt as the most despised man in Atlanta basketball? I think both fail to realise that the fans pay their mortgage.

Dr. Warren

May 9th, 2010
11:50 am

They are who we thought they were. The only people happy about this are the potential Hawks-buyers in Seattle.

Jim

May 9th, 2010
11:52 am

Johnson is a piece of trash, but its not all on him. The Atlanta Spirit organization has completely ruined this franchise, and the Hawks will always be sh*t as long as the Spirit are pulling the strings.

reese mayfield

May 9th, 2010
11:52 am

joe the quiter johnson how in the hell do u think the fans suppose to feel hell u suppose to be the leader but u not no leader because a leader will not talk to the fans that pay u hell dont forget u talking like this u is a free agent after monday & the atl will be glad u leave & now i thru talk about a quiter now lets talk about the dam coach my friends use to dog u out but i stay on ur bamdwagon until the hawks start playing like quiter but i have to get off ur soft ass wagon because the hawks play like u coach u will be a free agents after mondat to & take the uncoachable josh smith with u

southerndawg

May 9th, 2010
11:52 am

The problem with the hawks is they have no veteran leadership to help them get through this. They are talented, but they have no teamwork.they need to let Johnson go and bring in a leader.

Princess's Own

May 9th, 2010
11:54 am

I agree w/ Beatscape we really do have good players in Al Josh & Marvin it’s just that we don’t have a leader nor coach to push them to be better because they are. Joe is dirt, scum of the earth cause I have lost all of my respect for him once he dissed us all as fans! You don’t deserve money like Wade James and the other free agents because you’re hot one min then cold I am disgusted by his comments

Joe got to go and let’s bring in D-WADE!! if we had D-WADE and down by 20 we would have come back and put in effort but Joe only wants a check not a ring!!

Oedipuss

May 9th, 2010
11:56 am

I think for marketing/entertainment purposes the Hawks should suit-up/start 5 white guys next year, it would be affirmative action-NBA style……..

ET

May 9th, 2010
11:57 am

I always liked Joe Johnson…until now.

No guts; no glory

May 9th, 2010
11:58 am

I wouldn’t spend $6 on this team. Its a shame but these guys have no pride and no professionalism. They need to be paid by performance & results and not by guaranteed salaries.

Dnice

May 9th, 2010
12:00 pm

Please beg DWade to come here. ATL will never go further with this current team as JJ is no better than John Long and probably a step below Steve Smith.

Joe's Gone

May 9th, 2010
12:06 pm

Joe is obviously going to be a Knick next year so he can be reunited with his old coach. If Johnson gets a max contract and they do not sign an elite player to be the front man, he will be run out of New York in a year or two. Only in Atlanta can the star (Vick, Johnson) flip off the fans and get away with it.

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Mr. Phil

May 9th, 2010
12:13 pm

Seriously, “could care less about the fans”? This is what I am talking about. Jerks like Johnson will never respect the power of the fan-the until we get together and run him out of town.

Dr. Warren

May 9th, 2010
12:13 pm

Trade Josh Smith, Marvin, and anyone else but Horford to Dallas for Nowitzki. Then try to sign Wade. Hire Kevin Loughery as coach. Then they’ll sell some tickets.

observor

May 9th, 2010
12:13 pm

Someone should inform the intellectual giant that is Joe Johnson that the correct saying is “I couldn’t care less”, not “I could care less”. Anyone that says “I could care less” in that context is a moron because you are actually suggesting the opposite of what you are trying to convey. Then again, he is a basketball player, so thinking and reasoning isn’t exactly an area of strength.

Dr. Warren

May 9th, 2010
12:15 pm

And yes, Loughery is 70, but he wants back into coaching according to some NBA officials I know here in China.

Dr. Warren

May 9th, 2010
12:15 pm

And by “officials” I mean executives, not referees.

Steve

May 9th, 2010
12:16 pm

Pi$$onaDAWG , why don’t you go back to your Tech site and whine there. If you don’t like the NBA, just go away-please.

reese mayfield , what the heck are you trying to say? Learn to write-please.
We spell it this way: YOU, not U.

Willy

May 9th, 2010
12:17 pm

Watch Orlando’s next magic trick as they make the Hawks completely disappear…

Astro

May 9th, 2010
12:20 pm

Boycott the Hawks!!!!

Steve is a fool

May 9th, 2010
12:22 pm

Open mouth and remove all doubt

R.U.KIDDEN-ME???

May 9th, 2010
12:31 pm

SWAT@ 11:27AM….GOD BLESS YOU PARDNER BUT I WOULD HAVE NEVER IN A THOUSAND YEAR’S ADMITTED THAT!!! I WAS TOLD ON THESE BLOG’S THAT I WASN’T A FAN B/C I SAID AT BEST THIS SERIES WOULD GO 5 GAME’S!!! SADLY I WAS WRONG…. IT’LL BE ONLY 4 IT APPEAR’S!!! THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUAL’S ARE THE POSTER CHILDREN FOR QUITTER’S!!! JOE JOHNSON YOU CAN KISS MY ARSS NAMELY B/C I DEFENDED THE ASG FOR BRINGING YOU ONBOARD BUT IT APPEAR’S BELKIN WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!!! YOU SIR ARE NOTHING MORE THAN “THE TIN MAN” YOU SIR ARE 3 OZ CHARACTER’S IN 1!!! NOOOO BRAIN,NOOOO COURAGE,NOOOOOO HEART!!!! GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

heartofdarkness

May 9th, 2010
12:36 pm

Just watched “Invictus” this weekend. It was a powerful illustration of how sport can unify a people. Perhaps the Hawks were just given the wrong poem.

Princess's Own

May 9th, 2010
12:38 pm

yes somebody please bring in D-wade and u know dwayne wants to stay around hot weather and atlanta has some great weather bring him in and also he has great players to play around he’s a leader got a ring and damn sure wants another one

and people we still do need josh smith b/c even though he walked during game 2 and didn’t box out last night somewhat joe is suppose to be the leader and as the scorer leader and leader he was suppose to tell josh about that

Joe leave

SOMEBODY PLEASE BRING IN DWYANE WADE PLEASE!!

mario

May 9th, 2010
12:44 pm

this is the plan to sucess
A) LET JOE JOHNSON GO!!!!

1) sign DWade to max contract
OR
2) trade either horford or JSmith to Chicago for DRose( if they get DWade) and sign CBosh

DawgNole

May 9th, 2010
12:47 pm

As I wrote on Jeff’s earlier blog, some–the ignorant Vick Supporter in particular–have criticized the Hawks’ fans. That’s way out of line given the history of this sorry franchise, which once again embarrassed the city on national television last night. No surprise whatsoever that the national media is taking the team, and in one case the arena’s atmosphere, to task. It’s about winning CHAMPIONSHIPS, and NEVER has the Atlanta version of this team made it past even the second round of the playoffs–IN 40-PLUS YEARS of competition–let alone won it all. And those shameful results can be applied to every other major pro team this town has ever fielded in nearly a half-century of play–the ONLY exception being the ‘95 Braves. No, Vick Supporter and others of your ilk, don’t lay this huge stinking egg on the fans. It’s about the players, the coaches, the ownerships, and the losing mentality that has plagued this town’s major pro sports franchises since their establishment in the mid 60s. It’s about a long and DISGRACEFUL history of performances that sadly have earned our city the pitiful but painfully appropriate label of “LOSERSVILLE.” And that’s all it’s about.

Nate ArchiBALL

May 9th, 2010
12:49 pm

From Frank Hughes of SI.com:
You’d think that a coach who takes a team to the second round of the playoffs would be safe, but there are mitigating circumstances. First, Woodson is not general manager Rick Sund’s coach; Sund inherited Woodson when he took over for Billy Knight. Secondly, this Hawks team has raised many questions, and not just because it lost all three of these games by double digits and two of the three by at least 30 points. These problems started in the first round, after two dominating wins over Milwaukee was followed by three straight losses and forced Atlanta to win two life-or-death games in order to advance. Whether these issues are Woodson-related or chemistry-related are for Sund to answer, but they certainly are present, probably the reason the circumspect Sund has not given Woodson a contract extension.======Correction for Mr. Hughes: Rick Sund did not inherit Mike Woodson from Billy Knight. In fact, Billy tried to fire Woody during the season but was overruled by the Atlanta Spirit Group. Woody was given a two-year contact after Knight was relieved of his duties.

Seti

May 9th, 2010
12:50 pm

A ticket for $6? Hell, I wouldn’t go to see these loafers if you gave me a ticket.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 9th, 2010
12:51 pm

Steve you would pay good money to Players that ack like Joe did? I truly can’t beleive the guy said it. There are so few class players left in the NBA.

northcyde

May 9th, 2010
12:51 pm

Princess’s Own

May 9th, 2010
12:38 pm

yes somebody please bring in D-wade and u know dwayne wants to stay around hot weather and atlanta has some great weather bring him in and also he has great players to play around he’s a leader got a ring and damn sure wants another one

and people we still do need josh smith b/c even though he walked during game 2 and didn’t box out last night somewhat joe is suppose to be the leader and as the scorer leader and leader he was suppose to tell josh about that

Joe leave

SOMEBODY PLEASE BRING IN DWYANE WADE PLEASE!!

***********************

Princess . . . unless you can coax Miami to do a dual sign and trade involving JJ + a filler, for a maxed-out signed D-Wade . . . or unless you’re willing to trade Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford for Wade . . . there’s no way in hell that we can get Wade.

A lot of you need to understand how the NBA system works, and the rules of the salary cap. We don’t have enough cap room to sign Wade flat out. The only way we can get him, is to trade for him. We all know Miami is going to throw max money at him, so we have to come up with a trade that comes close to matching his contract, to make the numbers work.

Matter of fact, we can’t get any of the big name free agents, unless a sign and trade is involved. From a star standpoint this season, it was JJ or bust.

Wade isn’t coming to Atlanta, if the roster is depleted of talent. He has that in Miami already. He’d stay in Miami . . or go to Chicago . . or go play with Lebron . . before he’d come to Atlanta.

So wishing for D-Wade, or any other star, is simply a pipe dream that people need to let go.

D-Wade

May 9th, 2010
12:54 pm

This is the first we have seen Joseph with some kind of fire. Let’s start Crawford and make Joseph inactive. Or you can put me in Woody, I got heart and I won’t quit! D-Wade is the name! Go get him Sund!