Kovalchuk dealt to New Jersey in sad, expected ending

Here's Ilya Kovalchuk going against New Jersey defenseman Johnny Oduya. Just switch the uniforms now.

Here's Ilya Kovalchuk going against the Devils' Johnny Oduya. Just switch the uniforms now.

This is generally how these things end. A star goes one way. A large package of some undetermined substance and quality goes the other.

This isn’t a new practice with the Thrashers, just an evolving one. The names keep getting bigger. Dealing Ray Ferraro and Jiri Slegr in the early days came with limited blowback. They were late in their careers. But then another impending free agent, Donald Audette,  couldn’t come to terms and was traded to Montreal for an obscure prospect named Kamil Piros. (Unfortunate early analysis from then-coach Curt Fraser:  “The greatest player in Czechoslovakia.”). Then Marian Hossa wouldn’t re-sign and was dealt to Pittsburgh.

Now it’s Ilya Kovalchuk’s turn.

This isn’t just a trend any more. It’s a disturbing franchise trait, with no sign of change in sight.

Kovalchuk was traded Thursday night to New Jersey. His exit was predictable since last season, when the team struggled (again), failed to amend for past mistakes (again), failed to accurately gauge the market (again) and in the end was forced to desperately deal him for another questionable package of players and prospects. It’s a nice trade-up for Kovalchuk. He goes from a franchise that has never won a playoff game to one that has won three Stanley Cups, four conference championships and nine division titles since 1994-95.

Lou Lamoriello, the Devils’ general manager, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. Don Waddell? He has been the architect of disaster central in Atlanta since Day 1. Anybody want to venture how this one turns out?

“I don’t think it sets us back at all,” Waddell said after the deal. “I think it moves us forward.”

Yes. He really said that.

It’s another quantity-for-quality trade. That’s the way these things work. The Devils get Kovalchuk, Atlanta’s all-time leading scorer (328 goals, 615 points, in 594 games) and defenseman Anssi Salmela. The Thrashers get right wing Niclas Bergfors, defenseman Johnny Oduya, troubled prospect Patrice Cormier and a first-round draft pick. The teams also will swap second-round draft picks.

Bergfors? A nice young player, hardly a star (27 points in 54 games). Oduya? A solid puck-moving defenseman. Cormier? A train wreck. He elbowed a player in the Quebec juniors, sending himto the hospital, and has been suspended for the season. The No. 1 pick? Maybe this one works out. And stays.

At least Waddell didn’t slam Kovalchuk going out the door. He was given a chance to say Kovalchuk only cares about money. Instead, he reiterated what Kovalchuk has been saying all along (the screams of short-sighted critics notwithstanding): “I think, Kovy right to the last day, wanted to be a Thrasher. But it’s a business decision.”

Waddell knew he would get slammed for this. Earlier Thursday, in hopes of swaying public opinion, he released a statement including some of the team’s contract offers to Kovalchuk. But the offers — $70 million over seven years ($10 million per year) and $101 million for 12 years ($8.42 average) — already had appeared in Wednesday’s Journal-Constitution. So his intended thunder was muted.

It never should have come to this. Kovalchuk is one of the NHL’s few elite players and has been since he entered the league in 2001. He’s on pace to score 40-plus goals for the sixth consecutive season. That’s a rare commodity in the NHL. But he has been frustrated by the team’s lack of success. The Thrashers have reached the postseason once. Attendance has declined. Concern over the club’s future fed into Kovalchuk’s desire to ask for the maximum salary allowed by the collective bargaining agreement: $11.3 million per season for 10 to 12 years. He asked for the only thing he felt he could control, and he had the leverage of unrestricted free agency. Unless he immediately signs an extension with the Devils, Kovalchuk will become the highest-profile unrestricted free agent in his prime in NHL history.

It’s another ugly ending. Two years ago, it was Hossa. He went to Pittsburgh, and the Thrashers celebrated the package they got back. But look at it now: Colby Armstrong (third-line winger, impending free agent), Erik Christensen (washed out), Angelo Esposito (flawed prospect) a No. 1 pick (Daultan Leveille, Michigan State).

Maybe this deal turns out better. But history tells us otherwise. Another star was just shipped out of town. This is where we came in.

453 comments Add your comment

@DanWeiner

February 4th, 2010
8:27 pm

“Maybe one day this trend of the Thrashers trading their best player will end.”

Yeah, when they move out of Atlanta.

JTK

February 4th, 2010
8:27 pm

This is the end of hockey in Atlanta. I, for one, will not go to another game as long as bumbling Don is running the team. What a disgrace!

Brandon from Warner Robins

February 4th, 2010
8:28 pm

Now I know how Pirates fans feel….

Reid Adair

February 4th, 2010
8:29 pm

Well, I hope the owners are happy with their quantity – because they just traded away the bulk of their team’s quality.

What a sad, sad day.

skydawg

February 4th, 2010
8:30 pm

I am officially done with the Thrashers…make it the Atlanta Spirit Group et al.

Buzz

February 4th, 2010
8:31 pm

No one will ever score more goals faster as a Thrasher. Bank it.

sisu

February 4th, 2010
8:31 pm

insult to injury, we traded Salmela and also got a guy who is suspended for the rest of the season for an elbow to the head!

Steve

February 4th, 2010
8:33 pm

Ain’t no way the Devils will sign him long term.
Plus, he will NOT fit into their system.

Not sure about the players they picked up though.

GaVaHokie

February 4th, 2010
8:35 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if we trade that NJ 1st round pick in the next couple of days… maybe Toronto for Ponikarovsky?

Would still like to get Peter Mueller out of Phoenix.

TaxDawg

February 4th, 2010
8:35 pm

Is there a way to trade Waddell for draft picks and a General manager to be named later?

EP

February 4th, 2010
8:37 pm

First the Flames and soon to be the Thrashers. I’m just sad.

GaVaHokie

February 4th, 2010
8:37 pm

By trading Kovy to NJ, we can almost guarantee he’ll be available this summer. He’s not going to fit, they can’t afford him and, well, it’s New Jersey.

Nothing will be different this summer… Atlanta will still be one of the few teams able to give Kovy mega-money.

CobbThrasher

February 4th, 2010
8:37 pm

They picked up players in this trade? Oh, you must mean that 1st round draft pick that will be brought up when this team is long gone from Atlanta.

Devon

February 4th, 2010
8:38 pm

This is yet a further example of why Ownership “Groups” don’t work and why our GM is a bumbling buffoon. Atlanta AGAIN gets the shaft and we get told to “be hopeful for the future”… I’m tired of waiting for the future because its simply MORE OF THE SAME!!! Heatley, Hossa, Kovalchuk… FIRE DON WADELL, FIRE DON WADELL, FIRE DON WADELL!!!

George Holman

February 4th, 2010
8:38 pm

What's the plan?

February 4th, 2010
8:38 pm

Can’t Waddell at least stop trading our stars to Eastern teams?

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
8:38 pm

Everyone else around the country thinks Kovy was INSANE to reject $101 Million to stay in ATL…Schultz only finds fault with Waddell and the Thrashers…Go figure!

I say if you offer a friggin Russian immigrant $101 Million and he holds a gun to your head and says, “NO…I WANT ALL OF IT!”, then you’re better off as a franchise getting anyone and everyone you can for him…

willie

February 4th, 2010
8:38 pm

This confirms my fears that the Spirit group is in trouble financially. Joe Johnson will be the next star to go. What a shame. Atlanta deserves more.

Andrew

February 4th, 2010
8:39 pm

Andrew

February 4th, 2010
8:39 pm

WTF

February 4th, 2010
8:39 pm

Waddell has marked the end of NHL hockey in Atlanta. But maybe the blame lies with the inept ownership who do not care about hockey fans. I was here when the Flames left so history will repeat itself. Wow – this really sucks.

CormierToo?

February 4th, 2010
8:41 pm

Why would we want a kid like Cormier. Wasn’t he suspended indefinitely for that nasty elbow he threw on Mikael Tam?

Don Waddell

February 4th, 2010
8:41 pm

<——Frank Wren's best friend! Happy Valentines Day Frankie!

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
8:41 pm

quantity vs quality – this sucks

Sean Grace

February 4th, 2010
8:42 pm

I am sickened by the mediocre talent we got in return for an A tier superstar. The “timely” statement by Waddell defending his position was embarrassing. Getting punched in the gut would leave me feeling better than I feel right now. We just acquired an underachieving D-man, a third liner and some jackass who almost killed someone with an elbow for a superstar Captain. I’m done, goodbye.

tale of woe

February 4th, 2010
8:42 pm

Like I said earlier today. I don’t mind that Kovy is gone, but Waddell never gets fair trade value. Another disaster. Nothing about this trade makes me want to go see a game, watch a game, read about the Thrashers, buy anything Thrasher related. Sad

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
8:42 pm

willie, where you been? Joe Johnson said BEFORE the season even started he wouldn’t be back next year…..Guess Schultz will blame THAT one on Sund and the ASG too!

Bye To The Third One

February 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

So for the third time a true All Star has run screaming from Atlanta as fast as possible. Don continues to say that ownership gives him the ability to do whatever he wants; that means one of two things: (a) he’s a complete liar and ownership restricts him; or (b) he is the most incompetent GM ever to run a hockey team. Not sure which it is, but either way something has to change or Blue Land will be history.

Greg

February 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

Right in there with the Pirates and the Falcons. All three too cheapskate to rise to the top, I’m very sorry to say. It take real business acumen to run a professional team and achieve success. Atlanta has not been able to attract it.

Matt

February 4th, 2010
8:46 pm

ASG and DW, you may commence spinning…NOW. Tools, boneheads.

Pittsburgh Pirates, LA Clippers, Detroit Lions ALL > Thrashers.

BTW, Donnie, nice payback to Ilya by sending him to Neutral Zone Trap hell and Jacques Lemaire. Ilya is just gonna LOVE that system. Not.

tale of woe

February 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

I agree with Schultz – good franchises figure out how to keep their good players. I am not a huge Kovy fan, but there are not many dynamic scorers like him in the NHL. You eventually have to learn to pay these guys to hopefully attract other stars. Waddell gets no one who is going to make the team better. The 4 players (one TBD) will never be worth what Kovy was to the franchise. This is sad that in a city like Atlanta we have an ownership/GM group that doesn’t care about the sport, the city, the fans, and the players…

Radarwatcherr

February 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

I agree with all that has been said above about the Thrashers management, but it is also us the fans who are not helping matters. Why would you want to play in Atlanta that for the most part cares nothing about hockey and puts 7500 fans in the seats and a third of them root for the other team? How boring. I think it would be better to be the king in a bog hockey town, he will get the money for sure…

jim

February 4th, 2010
8:47 pm

That’s it. After 6 years as a transplant from DC (Caps season ticket holder) I’m officially done buying Thrashers tix. While Waddell is in charge my family will not be at Philips. What an awfully run organization.

Jim

February 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

I’m done. No more Thrashers this year. Sick of our best players and fan favorites leaving or being traded.

Wayne stuck in AL

February 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

For what we get back, this trade is about as bad as what the Braves got back in the Dale Murphy trade (the players acquired never played another MLB game after that season)…

angry

February 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

is waddel an alcoholic??? seriously. ive been a fan since day one. i WILL NOT attend another game until fumbling donny dip stick is gone.

willie

February 4th, 2010
8:48 pm

Joe turned down a 4-year $60 million extension before the season but that does not mean he will leave. He will just want a longer deal. One thing is for sure…he certainly won’t stay for a discount. If they aren’t going to re-sign him (and I think they should), then they should trade him before the deadline. We aren’t good enough to win it all this year anyway.

bigdawg

February 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

Ilya, thanks for putting up with sub-standard management here in Atlanta for all these years. We knowledgable hockey fans know you are one of the top 10 players in the world. Too bad you were saddled with one of the bottom 10 ownership groups in the world. Good luck in N.J., and know that I’ve been to my last Thrashers game, which is too bad b/c I went to the first Flames game, the Knight’s championship-clinching game, and the first Thrashers playoff game two year ago. Go Gladiators!!

PMC

February 4th, 2010
8:49 pm

Well he should feel right at home in the hell that is the meadowlands.

Zach

February 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

Jeff,

I just have one question. Why do we still have Don Wadell as the thrasher’s general manager?

Alex

February 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

I think I’m finally done spending my money on the Thrash as long as Teflon Don is running the show. Yes, Kovy’s demands to stay in ATL were somewhat absurd, but the reason they got that high is because he’s run this franchise into the ground. There’s been two constants in the 10-year history of the Thrashers – failure and Waddell.

Lee

February 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

Phillips Arena should be EMPTY for a while……I plan on going to the Panthers game, but I think I’ll be the only one there.

Donnie W Blows

February 4th, 2010
8:50 pm

Quantity over quality bespeaks the poorly managed half-assed no vision, no committement ownership and management this team has. This ain’t the ECHL Donnie, they are up the road in Gwinnett. For the love of God, fire Waddell, and sell the freakin team to an owner (not owners as in Atl Spirit clown posse) who cares and pray it is someone who will keep the team in ATL. Bettman is a fool but he needs to step in now to broker a deal as he did in Tampa becasue this franchise is next to fail – not because of players and fans, but due to the gross incompetence of the GM and owners.

Jimbo

February 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

Anybody have a line on Bergfors or Cormier? Would like to know more about them.

bob

February 4th, 2010
8:51 pm

The Spirit group has done a great job of weening off sports. Are any of you a decendant of Rankin Smith?

bigdawg

February 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

I thought we had our Trottier, Bossy and Chico Reche (sp?) when we had Heatley, Kovy and Kari. I thought we’d ascend just like the Islanders in the early 80’s. But, Waddell and the other dolts who make up ASG let Heatley go, let Marc Savard go, let Donald Audette go, and now Kovy. It just makes me sick!!!

PMC

February 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

Thrashers got absolutely completely totally hosed on this. Just like always.

It is unbelievable how much of an epic failure this franchise is.

Hotrod

February 4th, 2010
8:52 pm

Good luck Kovy. You were awesome here.

Homer

February 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

Atlanta does not diserve an NHL franchise!

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

according to TSN.ca – the trade was contingent upon Waddell washing Lou’s car and picking up his dry cleaning

Brian

February 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

I AM SICK NOW I AM GLAD I MOVED TO DELRAY BEACH FL NOW I WONDER IF CENTER ICE GIVES REFUNDS. OH AND WHAT I WOULD GIVE TO SEE THE ASG HEADS ROLLIN DOWN THE HALLS OF PHILLIPS ARENA.

gcs

February 4th, 2010
8:55 pm

Why does the Atlanta Spirit hold onto these bums? Don Waddell and Hawks coach Mike Woodson are losers who have achieved nothing yet they stay employed.

.

david from boston

February 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

YOU must I repeat must go to the games. Look this deal stinks I know. You must go to the Phillips Area and hold signs up to get a New GM!

TJ

February 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

This deal was so bad that even Billy Knight wouldnt make it!!

bigdawg

February 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

Donnie W. Blows: Love that (Atlanta Spirit clown posse). Maybe it should be Absolutely Stupid Clown Posse!

Mr. Blank, the Thrashers (and its fans) need you!

Donnie W Blows

February 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

Jimbo – Cormier was recently suspended from Jr Hockey for the balance year for a deliberate head shot to an opposing player. Now if heo goes after Donnie W, props to him!!

Tom Lysiak

February 4th, 2010
8:56 pm

Will Lou make the first round pick for us??? Please???

angry

February 4th, 2010
8:57 pm

i just kicked my dog

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
8:57 pm

Hey PMC, they left the Meadowlands last year for a new, hockey only rink downtown.

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
8:57 pm

Now Kovy for Lou would have been good trade.

Joe

February 4th, 2010
8:58 pm

Hey Waddell….Do you happen to own a Ferrari? If so….you may want to consider trading it in for a Ford Pinto, Yugo, and broken down Chevy. That would be a better equivalent deal than you just executed. I’m a TRUE Thrasher fan, watch every game on TV, and go to as many games as i can. And this is called LOSING loyal fans. There’s no excitement or winning generated here. thanks

bigdawg

February 4th, 2010
8:58 pm

Tom Cousins and ASG: Killing hockey in Atlanta since Oct. 1972.

Reagan

February 4th, 2010
8:58 pm

Unbelievable!! I’m no GM (but hell neither is Waddles) I am now a Blackhawks fan to hell with the atlanta spirit. Maybe Kolvy will come back to Atlanta he loves it here and have you ever been to Newark? The armpit of the east coast! The one common factor in the Thrashers lack of success is Don Waddles please can him before it really is too late! PLEASE!!!

Bruin/Thrasher fan

February 4th, 2010
8:58 pm

Sad, the Thrashers get one decent forward with 27 points, a defensemen with 4 and a criminal in Cormier. Way to go Thrashers!

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 4th, 2010
9:00 pm

If Dandy Don Meredith were here, he might sing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTAUs_h_uY&feature=related

Donnie W Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:01 pm

Will it be the Quebec T’rasher of da National Ockey League, or will it be the Kansas City Scouts, a redux, or the Winnipeg Rubber Band Airplanes? Shood da puck, eh?

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
9:01 pm

I wonder if they will make this into a “hockey way” video for TV timeouts.
dismantling your franchise – the HOCKEY WAY!

gategirl

February 4th, 2010
9:01 pm

Cormier handed out 2 elbows to the head in less than a month

PMC

February 4th, 2010
9:02 pm

boom boom – ah sorry. Apparently I am the Waddell of team Geography.

Pachoo

February 4th, 2010
9:02 pm

Waddell is an imbecile. The only way this trade works is if Kovalchuk signs back with us this winter.

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
9:03 pm

or, they couldn’t agree to terms and played “risk it all” – i think we all know who got the smile face

Rogie

February 4th, 2010
9:03 pm

what an awful deal. More players with “potential.” These players aren’t going to replace his scoring or put any fear in the opposing defense. Who are the leaders in the locker room now? We are now, at best, a .500 team if everything goes our way. Forget the playoffs. It’s unbelievable that a team in playoff contention with a month before the trade deadline would become a “seller” and unload their biggest asset — a bonafide superstar. It’s heartbreaking for the loyal fans…

Going....Gone!

February 4th, 2010
9:03 pm

It’s easy to take a negative point of view with this trade. Let’s face it though, Kovy needed to be traded. He was offered allot, really he would not have been worth it. He lacks that “thing” that is needed to lead the team into the next tier of performance or the playoffs for that matter. It does irritate me to no end that Kovy was traded to an eastern conference team. They should have sent him out west. Time will only tell if this was a good thing or not. I just hope another one of the players steps up and LEADS the team the way it needs to be lead.

Missing Spirit

February 4th, 2010
9:03 pm

I guess I was holding out just thinking we were threatening this move to try to get a deal done and get Grossman to act….and I did not think any GM or owner could be this insane. The fact is no fans are going now and it is going to get worse. What a shame. This group is the worst ownership I have seen in all my life following sports.

Thrasher 1

February 4th, 2010
9:03 pm

That’s it… Just bring in the moving van and call it a day… Hockey is has the most energic fan base in Atlanta. It isn’t close… But you can only hold peoples interest for so long. This is a disaster… I’m done with the Thrashers until there is a change in management/ownership.

Donnie W Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:05 pm

Oh, by the way, Colby Armstrong will be gone before season end too. We will trade him for a bag of used (not new) pucks, a few jock straps and an NHL highlights DVD of (pick your team but not ATL) winning the Stanley Cup. Kidding aside, Colby ain’t going to re-sign so he will be gone. Too much grit and skill, gotta go, don’t need him.

Jimmy

February 4th, 2010
9:05 pm

Wadell has proven he cannot judge talent.
After Heatley and Kovy, he has done nothing but bumble and stumble.
He needs to go away.

mickyddawg

February 4th, 2010
9:06 pm

In this case, it’s two strikes and you’re out. Bumbling mismanagement has lost Atlanta’s second , and surely last chance, at an NHL team. Thanks, Atlanta Spirit and Don Wadell.

James Brown

February 4th, 2010
9:06 pm

Agree with GaVaHokie………He will not fit in Lou L`S system………won`t happen……………I like this guy Patrice Cormier…………..He wants to mix it up………..terrible trade…I thought we could get Boston`s #1 by way of Toronto…………………..this should get everybody fired………..time to start over

TheAntiMe

February 4th, 2010
9:06 pm

Another Atlanta NHL franchise shot down in Flames.

GaVaHokie

February 4th, 2010
9:08 pm

James Brown… believe me, if he could have gotten Toronto’s pick from Boston, Kovy would be a Bruin right now.

I’m sure this was the best offer on the table.

Not Blind

February 4th, 2010
9:08 pm

Next big NHL headline – NJ trades Kovalchuk for 5 elite NHL players, 10 draft picks and a pile of cash.

Donnie W Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:09 pm

Hey, while we are at it, let’s trade Pavs and the Moose and go wilth Kari Not-him-again in goal! If you are going to tank, then do it right.

BugKiller

February 4th, 2010
9:09 pm

I hate this.

I hate that this is making me sick to my stomach.

I vowed after yet another Braves face plant in the first round last decade that I would no longer allow pro sports to affect my life in such a way, the way I freely let UGA sports.

But this has cut my heart out with a spoon.

This frakking hurts.

I hate Don Waddell. I know hate is a strong word, but I hate him.

I hate Gearon and all of the other Dis-Spirit group. I hate them with every ounce of my soul.

I hate Gary Bettman for being a spineless, gutless worm in not stepping in and demand that these owners sell the team to an owner who will care for it and refuse to move it.

I hate Ted Turner, that greedy bastard socialist, who SHOULD have left his pro sports franchises out of his Time-Warner merger, but didn’t.

I hate that this is probably the final nail in the coffin of pro hockey in Atlanta.

I hate that I can never root for the Hamilton Thrashers, or whatever or where ever they’ll be.

I hate that my only hockey recourse is to go back to rooting for my dad’s favorite hockey team, a team I’ve grown to “hate” over the last ten years: the Rangers.

I frakking hate this.

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
9:10 pm

http://thrashers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=516294

at least don took the time to remember the fans – a letter from the man himself

Brian

February 4th, 2010
9:11 pm

I feel like the animal house clip when we give up a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PMC

February 4th, 2010
9:11 pm

hey well the good news for this trade is that he’s got nothing left on the deal. If the market tanks, they might still get him back this summer if they want him or they can sell off everyone else of value fire Waddell, Bring in someone who hasn’t screwed up several “plans” already…find some competent hard hitting hockey players and make a run at it.

English Teacher

February 4th, 2010
9:12 pm

Salmela too? Ugh.

Chris

February 4th, 2010
9:12 pm

I’ll still go see the Kansas City Thrashers, er I mean…

Benson N Hedges

February 4th, 2010
9:12 pm

The Thrashers should refund tickets to every season ticket holder … believe in Blueland??? Believe in failure — it’s the Waddell way.
How does that man take a paycheck? He has singlehandledly f’d the Atlanta franchise since the first day they put the gas in the Zamboni. Don’t tell me the prospects are the future of the franchise. Not with that pinhead having anything to do with it. Waddell must go or the Thrashers must go.

d1reality

February 4th, 2010
9:13 pm

Very sad, but the ownership is not committed, and give a year, two, or three and the Thrashers will be gone.

I don’t blame Kovy, but it never should have come to this. Ownership should have been more aggressive setting up the team years ago to keep Kovy in the mix. They are a rinky dink bunch and don’t give a hoot about taking a risk to win. The Thrashers are just a balance sheet item waiting to be sold and moved.

I miss Ted Turner.

Robert

February 4th, 2010
9:13 pm

Bye-bye, Don.

jared

February 4th, 2010
9:13 pm

i think you all are crazy i think we got a great return. Remember that Enstrom is Swedish and likes being paired with Swedish players. Oduya is huge and is a stay at home defender, WE NEED A STAY AT HOME DEFENDER. We now have two great rookies on our team who now have something to prove to each other.

Big L

February 4th, 2010
9:13 pm

This is why noone cares about hockey in Georgia. Why should we give a damn when management doen’nt give a sh*t. Fans concistently get crapped on and they expect us to come back for more. Well to hell with that. Ownership can sod off!!!!!!!!!!

Sugarfoot

February 4th, 2010
9:14 pm

Go Knights! The last good hockey team Atlanta had. And also lost.

Rich from the Sports Buffet

February 4th, 2010
9:14 pm

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
9:15 pm

Don to a fellow GM:

Don: No one will make me a reasonable offer
GM: Look Don, some moron got taken a couple years ago trading away a pile of picks and players and their top defensive prospect only to get swept in round 1
Nobody wants to be that guy and make a bad trade for a rental

Philly Thrasher Fan

February 4th, 2010
9:16 pm

When Illy turned down $101 million over twelve years…..that let me know that he could care less about our franchise

Mark

February 4th, 2010
9:17 pm

How Don Waddell still has a job is beyond me.

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
9:18 pm

Saw somewhere that Cormier has been suspended for the rest of the season. Can this be true? How can one of the players you get in a trade not even be available to play for the rest of the season?!?

I’d say he might get some good fight along with Bolts and Thorburn……But apparently this guy doesn’t “fight”….He just tries to KILL other players.

M&Em

February 4th, 2010
9:19 pm

New Eminem (or is that enima?) song – Philps Arena is just empty without me!

4 jacks

February 4th, 2010
9:20 pm

This ownership group is just beyond pathetic. I will not blame Wadell, though I will not defend him, until the ownership puts a couple of bulletts in the gun to see what he can do. The owners are to blame, and the shame of it all, the Atlanta fans will end up taking the hit as bad sports fans when the Thrashers move. To the ownership of the franchise “GO TO HELL” .

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
9:20 pm

One observation about the $100M offer – It is an insane amount of money, but it was $1M per year below ovechkin. The 7 year deal was serious money but 5 years short. Combine the two and he is a thrasher. The spirit group can’t pull the trigger on a contract worth more than the value of the team. He will get his money come July

Tripple Lindy

February 4th, 2010
9:21 pm

Cormier is a piece of work. Well, he’s a piece of something, Check out his handywork:

http://bit.ly/6kKaJG

Cahos

February 4th, 2010
9:21 pm

Fire Waddell

Better trade would’ve been Malkin from Pittsburgh

But no Waddell decides to be stupid I saw Waddell and had tomorrows paper I rip it right up in front of him and litter it in front of him, for being a dingus for that t-rade.

Malkin would’ve been a better deal in by mind.

defacto

February 4th, 2010
9:22 pm

The day the music…err the NHL died in ATL. Waddell is the common thread in 12+ year of incompetence. Why must it always be this way? And the sad thing is none of the media, save Jeff, have paid any attention to this ongoing debacle.

slobberbelly

February 4th, 2010
9:23 pm

I’m through. I don’t come back until NEW OWNERS, and only NEW OWNERS, show me their serious about winning. And until NEW OWNERS are found, Bettman needs to look into the miserable way this franchise is run.

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
9:24 pm

The Thrashers could call it a rebuilding period…if only they had ever built anything to begin with. Thrashers=Detroit Lions=L.A. Clippers+Pittsburgh Pirates=perpetual ineptitude

Call Me Patrice

February 4th, 2010
9:24 pm

Hi, dis is Patrice Cormier, I shood da puck, I score da goal, I tear da head off of de udder guy and next year I come to da rink near you, or da provincail jail, yeah, dat is what I do!.

StateBird

February 4th, 2010
9:25 pm

This trade speaks volumes on so many fronts. First the obvious ineptitude of management and ownership. I’m surprised that the league would authorize such an imbalanced trade.

It makes me wonder if the 28 other teams all felt that Kovy had so little to offer … but my firm opinion is that the ASG gave DW orders to not bring back any salary to speak of. You don’t think the Flames would have traded Phanuef for Kovy straight up given what they got back in return?

Does anybody know if we now meet the league minimum salary?

Otto

February 4th, 2010
9:25 pm

As a native whose parents were at the first Flames game, I blame the ownership. It is sad Atlanta has a healthy following if you put a decent product on the ice. It takes some investment to get there.

Jos3

February 4th, 2010
9:25 pm

I can’t wait to see if they have the stones to send out letters in the next week or so asking STH’s for a deposit on playoff tickets… You know who I feel for? John Anderson. I am not sold that he is a legit NHL coach, but surely he deserves better than the disaster DW has made for him… And we lose Salmela- pitiful.

Mitch9999999

February 4th, 2010
9:28 pm

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4743/happychuk.jpg

This pic said it all. No surprise DW was screwed over again.

12345

February 4th, 2010
9:28 pm

What a trade, Star for nothing, totally nothing. I will never go to another Thrashers game EVER ! Don Waddell you make me sick, you are without question the worst GM in sports history, you lie, you cheat and you do not give a damn about the fans, neither does your employer, the Atlanta SUCK Group !

You people need to be run out of town and never allowed back. I suggest all fans show up at Duluth and we all take Waddell down once and for all, it’s the only method we have left to get rid of him ! Well let’s hear it, Anyone with me ?

Buzz

February 4th, 2010
9:29 pm

If we get their first round pick (likely #28-30) and they get our 2nd round pick (likely #35) did we really get a first round pick?

Sheesh!

Donnie W Still Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:29 pm

Amen Jos3, I do feel sorry for John Anderson and also doubt he is fully NHL ready. Let’s not forget who hired him!

CLIFF F KLEIN

February 4th, 2010
9:29 pm

Yes, another bad move. So someone needs to trade or retire Waddell. I think he was planted in Atlanta by the devil to destroy hockey in here. Every move he makes is worse than the one before. Hockey fans of Atlanta need to demand he gets fired by five Pm tomorrow. What a putz.

[...] return for the best player in franchise history, the Thrashers got right wing Niclas Bergfors, defenseman Johnny Oduya, prospect Patrice Cormier and a first-round …. The teams also swapped second-round [...]

Asheville Dawg

February 4th, 2010
9:29 pm

Can we get off the hockey stuff, please. If the Thrashers move only damnyankee transplants will care!

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
9:29 pm

April 6th, the return of Kovi as the Devils come to Atlanta. How will the 19 Thrasher fans in attendance react?

firewaddell10

February 4th, 2010
9:30 pm

don waddell,

world class GM. 9 yrs 1 playoff appearance (0-4). who needs Heatley, Hossa, or Kovy when you can have uh……….. oh well who needs them.

Donnie W Still Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:30 pm

Buzz- things that make you say. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

TMAC

February 4th, 2010
9:32 pm

the Marlins of hockey

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
9:33 pm

WOW! I’m truly at a loss for words after watching this guy Cormier’s cheap shot video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzhF2viguGs

Convulsions, brain trauma, “a few” lost teeth…..

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
9:33 pm

Hey TMAC, the Marlins have won Championships, even on the cheap. The Trash haven’t ever won a playoff game.

bugman

February 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

Mmmmm, meatloaf…

Donnie W Still Blows

February 4th, 2010
9:35 pm

And the reason Donnie W put out the press release – it is the Kovy’s greedy and we were poor boobs taken along for a ride defense. Not me, I didn’t totally screw this team into the ground, not me and my clown posse buddies. No, it was that damned Kovy and his Agent, yeah, they did it!

Blackman

February 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

I’m nowhere near a hockey fan and I know this was the dumbest move ever. Well good the Hawks are selling more tickets, its the only way Phillip’s areana will get any money.

KMP

February 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

Im done with the Thrashers!! What a mess!!!!

Iceman

February 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

What a shocker..Don Waddell lets go of a great player. Again. Only this time, it’s the dude they drafted to supposedly be the “future” of the team. I guess futures are 8 seasons now.

Arrrghhh

John

February 4th, 2010
9:37 pm

Does Atlanta have a pro hockey team?

David

February 4th, 2010
9:38 pm

It’s obvious that the Spirit group doesn’t give a (fill in the blank) about hockey. The thing to do is not support their pets the Hawks, by going to games or on TV. Maybe they can be forced to sell the team I mean if they don’t care about hockey fans why should hockey fans care about them. This is coming from a a former Flames season ticket holder.

NHL Ready

February 4th, 2010
9:39 pm

I am now a rental Devil Fan. I hope the take the cup.

Former Fan

February 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

DW makes Billy Knight look like Red Auerbach

Braves GM

February 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

And people thought I got taken to the cleaners when I traded Javier Vazquez to the Yankees. This trade of Kovalchuk to the Devils makes my trade of Vazquez look super!

Thanks, Don Waddell for making me look like a freaking genius.

Ha Ha

February 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

I love watching all of the 27 Trasher fans cry. Keep making me happy.

PMC

February 4th, 2010
9:41 pm

Yeah no baggage at all with Cormier….

Mitch9999999

February 4th, 2010
9:43 pm

We are the Pirates of Hockey not the Marlins. Last I look Marlins have a few Championships to hang onto which are more than the Braves could do.

Big Chief

February 4th, 2010
9:43 pm

Thanks for the memories

atlwolf

February 4th, 2010
9:44 pm

That will be the end of hockey in Atlanta.

Tim Bowman

February 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

Don Waddell shouldn’t be fired he should be banished!

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
9:45 pm

You gotta read this:

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2010/02/did_nj_devils_give_away_their.html

Get this part:

I asked Lamoriello if the organization thought Cormier’s career might be damaged by his suspension in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League following his hit on Mikael Tam of the Quebec Remparts last month.

Cormier was suspended for the remainder of the QMJHL regular season and playoffs, potentially 48 games.

“That was probably as difficult as anything,” Lamoriello said of trading Cormier. “This was a player they (the Thrashers) wanted. I am very sensitive to that situation (with Cormier) and stand behind him 100 percent. It was a very difficult phone call to make.”

vbk

February 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

wow.. i have come down several times (From AK) to watch the thrashers. i can honestly say, never again. NJ, here i come.

Hockeytown

February 4th, 2010
9:46 pm

Pop quiz: Which Thrasher fan is upset about Kovalchuk leaving?

Answer: Both of them.

Frank

February 4th, 2010
9:47 pm

Face it. We are the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NHL

Done

February 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

This is it! I am done too. Dandy Don does not have what it takes to bring in a significant player or resign one either. Don’t forget that Savard offered a home town discount (Boston got one so Savard wasn’t lying) and he is now a top center who worked well with Kovy. Don spun his tall tales and Savard left. We had Hossa because of Heatly’s problems. Koslav regrets resigning and is being treated like crude right now.

There are more players that Don could not resign or chose to treat like they had not ability that are doing great on another team.

Don and AS get no more chances here. I will go to Glads games for my hockey fix. I am looking forward to seeing where Kovy lands. It could be my next team. I wish Kovy the best. Kari too for that matter.

bih23

February 4th, 2010
9:48 pm

im probably never going to watch the thrashers ever again.

LAC

February 4th, 2010
9:50 pm

The “letter” from Mr.$HIT himself was simple a JOKE. “See you in Blueland” HA, NO WAY !

Anyone who would now attend a Thrashers home game, unless rooting for the other team, is a complete FOOL ! Stay away from this franchise until they go broke !

I have a friend who is still a STH… I called him about this AWFUL trade, he said he will
give away his tickets and NEVER attend another game until a NEW OWNER and NEW GM are in place, He said “Giving money to asg, is like going to the grocery store and buying
spoiled meat.” He is 100% correct. These two NJ jerks will NEVER do anything here, likely gone next season and frankly who cares.

I really hope this team is sold and moved, to a city where they will be run in a professional manner and have Total fan support ! There is NO way this team stays here, just sell it and move it, this is THE END of NHL hockey here and it will never return.

Lastly waddell, this is for YOU A$$ HOLE, you are a F’ing scam, a person who who lies to everyone, a person who could care less about the FANS and the team. You have done everything in 10 years to DESTROY hockey here, but the issue is YOU ARE STILL here.
Your letter should have been telling that you have RESIGNED, not that total CRAP BS
you wrote, who wrote it for you beau turner, was he drunk ???

You are a disgrace to the human race waddell total disgrace !

How about it waddell, one of my companies for 10 minutes in a room with you, you got ANY GUTS PUNK ? I doubt it !!!!! I’ll be awaiting your letter of response waddell you worthless COWRD !

mark

February 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

This trade had to happen. Kovy DID NOT want to stay in atlanta and we offered him a fortune and he still said no. Waddell is actually a great GM contrary to popular belief…he has been snakebit by poor ownership and budgetary restrictions, not to mention unfortunate events (Heatley, injuries, this). Waddell can evaluate talent; the problem is the talent is playing for other team. Give him some more time and this move had to be made to get us back on track, especially with no leverage as everyone knew we had to deal Kovy.

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
9:51 pm

The don’t call them the Trash for nothing. If this was the best offer, I can’t imagine what the others were. Disney on Ice skaters? The fat guy that plays for the Yellow Team in the Monday night 40+ beer league at the rink in Alpharetta? The best of Steak Shapiro on CD?

Former Atlantan, now in New York

February 4th, 2010
9:52 pm

It always makes me laugh and be sorrowful at the same time. Growing up in Atlanta, I saw Jim Craig’s first game as a Flame. When they moved to Calgary, I thought…’well hockey is not well served or supported in Atlanta’. I was thirteen. Now, in the generation of sports-marketing, the Atlanta front office has shown their ineptness to market a viable sport to the community by trading away their most marketable players and using the Thrashers as an ‘also-ran’ in their business decisions. It is really a shame that the same attendee trends that existed in the early 80’s are again becoming apparent. The Thrashers organization has one of several options, 1. Move the team (to Winnipeg?) 2. Change the colors of the home uniform. If I ran my business the same way as the Thrashers organization I would have been bankrupt four years ago! Good Luck Atlanta fans, I say bring back the Knights. Oh say can you see….?

Tim Bowman

February 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

BOYCOTT THE ATLANTA SPIRIT! NO MORE HAWKS OR THRASHERS GAMES FOR ME OR MY FAMILY!

Dave 3

February 4th, 2010
9:53 pm

Hey, I take offense comparing the Pirates to the Thrashers….NO organization is as poorly run as the Pirates…17 straight losing seasons and counting…

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
9:55 pm

More trade details…

FROM:
Since the Thrashers drafted Kovalchuk No. 1 overall in 2001, the Russian Olympian leads the NHL with 328 goals, but Atlanta has made just one playoff appearance and has never won a postseason game. The 26-year-old Kovalchuk has 31 goals and 27 assists in 49 games this season for the Thrashers. He missed six games because of a broken bone in his foot.

Salmela, 25, had a goal and four assists in 29 games this season for Atlanta. The Finn was acquired by the Thrashers from the Devils in exchange for defenseman Niclas Havelid and forward Myles Stoesz on March 2, 2009.

TO:
The 28-year-old Oduya has two goals and two assists in 40 games in what has been a disappointing season. He’s set to play for Sweden in Olympics.

Bergfors, a 22-year-old Swede, is fifth among NHL rookies with 27 points (13 goals, 14 assists). He was drafted 23rd overall in 2005.

The 19-year-old Cormier had 11 goals and 20 assists in 31 games this season with Rimouski and Rouyn-Noranda of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League before he was suspended for the rest of season because of a hit on an opposing player. He captained Canada in the 2010 World Junior Championship.

The Devils’ 27th pick in the first round.

.

February 4th, 2010
9:55 pm

Wish someone would buy the damn TEAM that Cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ray Ferraro's Bobble Head Doll

February 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

If I buy a Kovy authentic at half off, should I wear it if the Thrashers play the Devils in the playoffs?

BRUCE LEVINSON

February 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

mark- “Waddell is actually a great GM contrary to popular belief…”

Please tell me you are joking. You are killing me.

Falcon 34

February 4th, 2010
10:00 pm

Don Waddell Should Be Fired! – I certainly won’t claim to know very much about hockey, but I can say this as a Thrasher fan who loves his local teams and attends at least several games a year: Waddell should be fired on the spot for shipping the face of the franchise, Ilya Kovalchuk, out of town. Waddell has obviously made it his job to kill hockey once again in Atlanta. How in the hell he has a job is unbelievable. He has been the GM of the Thrashers for all 10 years of existence and they have managed 4 playoff games in 10 years, with all 4 being dominant losses. Trading Hossa and Heatley MAY could have been understood, but trading one of the best players in the NHL and THE face of the franchise away is unconscionable. Hockey may be a tough sell in the South, but Atlantans have shown they will follow a winner, and everytime Waddell has had a chance at one, he destroys it. Awful, pathetic, and completely abhorrent. Rumor is that Kovalchuk wanted 10 years for $120+ million and Waddell wouldn’t match. That may not be true, but this one goes down as one of the worst decisions in Atlanta sports history. For the sake of Thrasher fans everywhere and Atlanta sports fans in general, fire Don Waddell yesterday!

BRUCE LEVINSON

February 4th, 2010
10:00 pm

After several months of negotiations toward a long-term contract with forward Ilya Kovalchuk and his agent, we were unable to reach an agreement and elected to trade Kovalchuk and defenseman Anssi Salmela to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for Johnny Oduya, Niclas Bergfors, Patrice Cormier and a first round draft pick in 2010. In addition, our teams have swapped second round choices in the 2010 NHL Draft.

We want you, our loyal season ticket holders, to know that throughout the negotiation process, the Thrashers organization remained committed to offering Ilya a contract that exceeded those of the league’s best and highest paid players, and was commensurate to his skill level and performance history.

To that end, we offered Kovy several lucrative packages in an effort to meet his financial objectives. One offer that we extended to Ilya would have made him the highest paid NHL player on a per year average with $10 million per year for seven years. Another offer totaled more than $100 million over 12 years , and it, combined with the previous contractual commitments that were made to Kovy, would have earned him more money than any other NHL player in the history of the league.

If we had met Kovy’s ultimate demand, we would have jeopardized our ability to build a competitive team around him and retain our other young players as they became eligible for new contracts in the seasons ahead. At the end of the day, we couldn’t close that gap and simply reached a point at which we couldn’t reasonably go any higher.

We’re excited about the addition of all three players and feel that Johnny and Niclas will quickly complement our team of budding young stars, highly-skilled veterans and elite players. We also look forward to having Patrice join us in the near future. Our goals for this season have not changed—to make and advance as deep as possible in the 2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs—and we move ahead with a new sense of purpose that is energized by our continued climb in the standings as we position ourselves to compete with the best in the NHL.

We will maintain the option of bringing in more players, in addition to the ones that we have acquired in the trade, to make sure that we are fully competitive for the remainder of the season and the postseason.

We thank Ilya and Anssi for all they have done for our organization and wish them well. And we thank you,for your loyalty, commitment and continued support, and look forward to your enthusiastic presence in Blueland to help drive us into the 2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Former Atlantan, now in New York

February 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

To Frank “…we are the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NHL…” The Pittsburgh Pirates have history and an organization that kept Willie Stargell in a Pirates uniform for his entire career. They won the World Series in their heydey. The Thrashers are like the XFL…lots of flash and fire coming out of the Thrashers heads before the game and cameras that zoom in on areas where there are some fans. Hardly, the Pirates, more like the Orlando Rage…Sorry

Theron Sapp

February 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

JB

February 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

Say what you will about Marian Hossa, but at least he had the cojones to go on public record (albeit one of his native country’s newspapers) and say that Atlanta wasn’t going anywhere, thus forcing a trade. Ilya has repeatedly said that he wanted to stay here in Atlanta. What a load of patooey! What he and his agent succeeded in doing is called “posturing”. They come up with a demand so lucrative that they both knew that Atlanta couldn’t afford to keep him, and thus resulting in another star being traded away from Atlanta. That’s not saying that D-Wad (I wonder if he even knows what the real meaning of that abbreviation is?) or the ASG are any less to blame for Kovy leaving. Both of them should’ve known that by simply giving Kovy the “C” for his jersey wasn’t enough to keep him here. I predicted at the beginning of the season that Kovy would be gone this year, and I also predicted that the Thrashers would be sold by the end of the ‘10-’11 season. Looks like I’m golden so far…

CobbThrasher

February 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

WMFS- Thanks for posting the link with Lou’s comments. It was also interesting reading the Devils fans reaction to the trade. They generally thought they gave up very little. It’s was also interesting to read there thinking on the future, being now. Just imagine if Don had that attitude over the years where we might be now.

Want My Floor Seats?

February 4th, 2010
10:05 pm

Another decent read about it all:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/article/2010-02-04/devils-surprise-everyone-kovalchuk-trade

I’ve read enough already & I’m out. Still going to the game on Sat……Wonder what it’ll be like?

Probably SURREAL. 8)

John

February 4th, 2010
10:06 pm

I think this was fantastic deal for the thrashers.

April Fools!

Frustrated, Inc.

February 4th, 2010
10:07 pm

When is Turkey Neck Waddell going to announce his next move, trading Evander Kane? Sunday? WOW, tons of Americans are out of work, yet ole Turkey Neck still has a steady paycheck. God Bless America!

KNIGHTS! OOoooonnnn aaaaaaaa POWERPLAY!!!

February 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

Chris Lipuma
Brent Gretsky
Jeff Buchanan
Stan Drulia
Devin Edgerton
Peter Ferraro
Colin Miller
Shawn Rivers
Jason Ruff

If these names mean anything to you, you remember what it can be like to be a proud hockey fan in Atlanta. I miss those days. The night they won the Turner Cup is still the loudest I had ever heard a crowd, for any event, of any kind, ever in the Omni.

I was also there the night that the mascot, Sir Slapshot, got beat up in the stands by the opposing team’s coach. Anyone remember that?

CJ

February 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

The beginning of the end of hockey in Atlanta…if I were Kovy I wouldn’t have resigned to play in front of 10,000 empty seats a night for a general manager that couldn’t get him a decent centerman and for an ownership group that couldn’t market or have a clue on what makes a successful front office.

Just save the template of this story when Joe Johnson goes elsewhere in the summer…

Derrick

February 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

Cahos, you’re an idiot.

Dan, Caps fan

February 4th, 2010
10:08 pm

cormier was the canadian world juniors team captain. he made a bad play but he is going to be a stud. bergfors will be excellent too, the NJ systems doesnt promote offensive studs. i wonder how a guy who doesnt play defense will fit in up there. i say send kovy to the khl after the season. sorry atlanta your owners are terrible. don waddle, your time is over.

John

February 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

At least we still have those blueberry colored uniforms!

BubbaDaStickMan

February 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

Frankly, Charlotte I don’t give a damn! Gwinnett Gladiators, best Hockey Team in ATL..Sugarloaf Parkway & I-85….

Smarty

February 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

Hello Toronto!!! Hockey is leaving Atlanta this Summer folks go see while you can….

drano

February 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

I, and all other Devil fans, would like to extend our gratitude to the city of Atlanta for being so kind to the people of the great state of New Jersey. I will think of you all fondly while I watch Kovy skate the Cup around the rink wearing black and red this June. :) Seriously though, great deal for the Devs. Those of you who don’t understand the Devils or the way the team is run will be surprised to see the team offer Kovy a lot to stay – if he produces as expected. You all speak of Lou as being tight on the money, but Elias makes $7 million a year and the Devils do have the cap room to fit Kovy in long-term. Kovalchuk will do fine in the Jersey system (it’s all about being responsible and positionally sound). I was watching him closely this year when the two teams played and he can do fine defensively when he is inspired to play. Knowing that he has a chance for the Cup this spring will take him to a new level. The reason he turned down the offers the Thrashers made had nothing to do with the money – it was all about the opportunity to compete. What team (aside from the Wings) competes on a more regular basis than the Devils? No one, that’s who. The Thrashers have made the playoffs once; the Devils have MISSED the playoffs once in the past two decades (currently on a 13 year – soon to be 14 year – run of making the post-season). Also, keep in mind, the current owner of the Devils is relatively new and is definitely interested in keeping Kovy for promotional purposes – he’s a savvy business guy. The Thrashers need new management and a better team philosophy. They don’t seem to learn from the mistakes and have been, for all intents and purposes, a farm team for other franchises around the league that are looking for talent. I feel for ya Atlanta. – Sincerely, New Jersey.

hollywould

February 4th, 2010
10:09 pm

Good blog Falcon 34/ I do not understand how a guy who loses for 10 years (ok 9) keeps his job. It is INCREDIBLE.
Hey, maybe we get lucky and the new guys can play. Cormier has been talked about as a very good player. He made a mistake and maybe he can learn from it. Damn, how many times did I say maybe? Think Teflon D is thinking the same thing?

Always Hoping

February 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

All of you haters who are threatening to boycott the team please do so. Then crawl back into the hole you came from. Sit around and wait for news on the Bulldogs. I doubt any of you have ever been to a Thrashers game.

If you’re a true fan you stick with a team through thick and thin. Put your feelings aside for DW and ASG and keep supporting the players. The team is still in playoff contention. Had BOTH SIDES been up front with each other all this drama could have avoided. It’s obvious Kovy wanted out and wasted our time all season.

So let’s all take a deep breath during the Olympic break and come back in March ready to support the team for a spot in the playoffs.

Mr. Schulz please go away now until your next semi-annual article on hockey. I’m sure you have plenty of Bulldog, Vick, and other high schools news to report.

locdog59

February 4th, 2010
10:10 pm

I guess if you have never won anything then everyone is expendable. If the Atlanta Spirit was serious about hockey then Waddell would be out of a job. What general manager has ever lasted this long on a team with no playoff wins. It is obscene.

Knights!!!

O.J.

February 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

I hope Don reads these because you sir are destroying hockey in Atlanta. I also will not go to another game as long as you are running the team.

confused

February 4th, 2010
10:11 pm

I admit I know nothing about the Thrashers. But it seems to me that some people are complaining about what the Thrashers got got Kovalchuk in “trade”. If the dude was (going to be) a free agent and the Thrashers couldn’t afford his new contract, then why isn’t everyone kissing the owners’ ass for at least getting something instead of nothing?

Again, I know nothing about hockey, but isn’t their free agency similar to baseball?? Would it have made sense to pay the guy $15 mil a year and still lose?

Just curious…

James Brown

February 4th, 2010
10:12 pm

The 19-year-old Cormier………..I like this guy……Bumbling Don may have landed us somebody who can mix it up…………..something tells me me that he can play……….Big Lou didn`t want to give him up…..amid all the Bulls!@#$ this guy may be the jewel……..I`m looking for a positive…….I hope he makes the team at the end of this year(is he eligible?) or in training camp this summer………..that`s my new jersey….no pun…………

Kel

February 4th, 2010
10:13 pm

Hmmm. Don Waddell or dog squeeze? I prefer dog squeeze.

Falcon 34

February 4th, 2010
10:13 pm

This Just in – In a bizarre turn of events, the Indianapolis Colts trade Peyton Manning to the Calgary Stampeders of the CFL a few days before the Super Bowl. Not to be outdone, the New Orleans Saints trade Drew Brees to the Seattle Mariners for 7 bats, 4 gloves, and a baseball. Albert Pujols is anxiously awaiting his turn to be dealt to LA Galaxy for David Beckham’s right cleat, and finally, Lebron James appears headed to Manchester United for one pint of Bass Ale and a half eaten fish and chips.

confused

February 4th, 2010
10:16 pm

Falcon 34 — please fill me in. Assuming the ownership had done nothing, how would this situation be any better come June?

ATLthrasHER

February 4th, 2010
10:17 pm

Wow. I have been going to Thrasher games since the first pre-season one played here. Had my company get season tix and when those dropped I bought my own partial season until last year when I went through the Big D…was getting ready to pick my seats up again for the rest of this season and renew for next after talking to an agent at the Buffalo game. I can deal with the Thrashers without Kovy (although I will miss him), but I don’t know how much longer I can continue to support them if they keep Waddell. He really is blowing up this team.

WTF2

February 4th, 2010
10:17 pm

Don Waddell just focuses on bringing in new young players who might rise to be stars sometime in the future. We need a player who once was that kid, who stuck with a team, and now is a star. Aka, Ilya Kovalchuk. He was the face of the Thrashers. He was one of the originals (out of the players we have left.) He was our captain. Give a year, two, or three and the Thrashers will be gone, just like the Flames.

John

February 4th, 2010
10:17 pm

question-please help me out here. Is there a salary cap in Hockey? I have heard there isn’t. Therefore all this BS about Kovy taking up all of the salary cap would be untrue. If it was true, how could the Red Wings have so many stars all these years? How could the Devils, Rangers, and Bruins be able to have explored trading for Kovy and still keep enough others to make a run? I think this salary cap talk is BS.

Life Goes On

February 4th, 2010
10:18 pm

Where is the outrage toward Kovalchuk who did much worse than Marion Hossa by constantly saying he wanted to stay here. At least Hossa never stated he wanted to sign here. Kovalchuk will be a defensive liability to a team as defensive minded as NJ.

James Brown

February 4th, 2010
10:19 pm

Drano……………he won`t fit in your system and you will not win the Cup….he flew under the media radar here but as soon as he starts sulking after a bad gane or two the New York media will eat him alive……The Caps will kill you guys in 5 or 6 games if the Pens don`t do it first

ThrasherFan

February 4th, 2010
10:20 pm

What if, Kovy resigns here in the summer and Don Waddell just added some young players to compliment the team?

It could be a complete masterstroke… Bergfors is 22… Bogo, Kane, Little, all young…

Just what if…

Hipcheck

February 4th, 2010
10:21 pm

We suffered through the formative years with the hope of building a team. Little did we know reaching the playoffs was the low point for this sorry excuse of a franchise. Waddell is totally clueless, a collection should be taken up to buy the guy a ticket out of town, a bus ticket. If he had a spine he’d quit. Atlanta Spirit can’t agree on what brand of coffee for their break room let alone run a franchise. How did these clowns make their money inthe first place. It sure wasn’t their business smarts. I’d make a plea for Arthur Blank to save hockey in ATL but it’s to late. Go Gladiators!!!!

Not Confused

February 4th, 2010
10:21 pm

Dear Confused
Why are people upset? Do ever read about Waddells trades? THEY NEVER WORK OUT.
The is a MORON when it comes to trading players.

Falcon 34

February 4th, 2010
10:22 pm

confused – I’m not a fan who attends every game or even close for that matter, and I’m not really a hockey fan, but I do love the hometown Thrashers and try to make at least 2 or 3 games a year. Like I said, I really don’t know much about the situation in general, but from an outsiders perspective, trading one of the best players in the NHL and THE face of the franchise is hard to stomach. It seems as though the ownership group cares about the Hawks and Bball, but the Thrashers….not so much. Maybe Kovy and his agent played them like a fiddle, but Waddell’s track record is less than stellar to say the least. I am a passionate Falcon fan and I can only compare it to trading away Matt Ryan.

c.j.

February 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

There is a lot of hockey fans in this town. I don’t care if you’re a transplant, or home grown fan, We Want Hockey here! I don’t care if you root for the Thrashers or for the visitors, We Want Hockey here! Stop giving us the leftovers! Or we will Tea Party this team!

Jason

February 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

I think the letter says it all. The Thrashers offered him more than a fair contract. He’s just another arrogant, selfish, greedy millionaire looking to squeeze as much as he can. Had the Thrashers met his self centered demands, they would never even have the opportunity to be competitive because they wouldn’t be able to pay anyone else. As good of a player as he is, no one player is worth mortgaging the future for.

Darkhorse

February 4th, 2010
10:23 pm

Moe, Larry and Curly would make better owners then this group of clowns. What a depressing trade……

Jeffrey

February 4th, 2010
10:24 pm

Who gives a flying hockey puck??? Greed! A $100,000,000+ contract offer refused. Eff him!

confused

February 4th, 2010
10:25 pm

Again, please clarify. If Waddell doesn’t trade him and the Thrashers are forced to try to resign him and compete with the rest of the NHL, how is that a better situation than what just occurred?

Surely Thrashers fans don’t think Kovalchuk would turn down 10s of millions to stay in ATL, DO YOU?

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
10:26 pm

I agree with Drano. The Devils gave up a couple of prospects and the likelihood of about 8 slots in the draft (very late 1st rounder for a very high 2nd rounder) A half season of Kovi and a run at yet another cup versus doing nothing and letting another Eastern Conference team pick him up for pocket change and using him to knock you out. Smart teams do smart things and they win. The Trash do stupid things and continue to stink.

Gwinnett Fred

February 4th, 2010
10:27 pm

Great move – clears all kinds of cap room for the owners to bring in some stud free agents……no, wait

Bruce

February 4th, 2010
10:27 pm

Wow! Impressive trade Don! Can’t wait to see the new team on the ice. By my calculations, we should score 20 goals for the rest of the season. We’re going to need all 3 goalies in the net at once to have a chance. Dolt!

I can’t recall such a galactically pathetic and inept excuse for a hockey organization as the Atlanta Spirit and Don Waddell and the club that they put on the ice night after night. It’s embarrassing. I actually feel sorry for the players wasting their careers for this excuse for an NHL organization.

Tony C.

February 4th, 2010
10:28 pm

Well, now that ATL officially has committed to minor-league hockey, I can go back to rooting for the Devils (my adopted team before ‘99).

It’s a shame how poor ownership and management have betrayed the ATL hockey fan AGAIN.

Ryno

February 4th, 2010
10:28 pm

Maybe when the new guys are introduced, Cormier can swing a big elbow at Waddell’s empty head. The one or two media guys in attendance could be heard yelling “Finish Him!”

Wreckmaniac

February 4th, 2010
10:29 pm

Why the surprise ? This story was written the day Heatly had his infamous wreck.

Gwinnett Fred

February 4th, 2010
10:29 pm

If you want to be eternally optimistic – maybe indeed nobody out there will meet Kovy’s outrageous demands and he comes to his senses and accepts the last Thrash offer – assuming the owners didn’t thank God he didn’t take it and have pulled it off the table

David

February 4th, 2010
10:30 pm

When front office or ownership can not work out deals for players on the team, most likely that team will not make the playoffs. The Atlanta Thrashers in a brief history is a perfect example of a team lack of proven ownership and front office causing this team from making the playoffs every year. They need a strong formation here one that will bring fan in the arena, and proven ownership that wants to win the cup. The front office and ownership of this hockey team goals are not the same as Detroit, Pittsburgh, or any other team that makes the playoffs every year, they perfer to ruin this team for years to come and make excuses why they do not make the playoffs. Atlanta, please get rid of this type of ownership!!!

Wreckmaniac

February 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

Did Waddell run this years UGA football recruiting ?

CJ

February 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

Again, I’m not beefing with Kovy here…the guy saw a way out of this train wreck of a franchise and got out…Happy Trails to you…

But with all of this wondersul money that we’re saving and can use to give to other players you forget that the man charged with distributing that money is the same man that has built NOTHING for the last ten years. Some people’s rationale in this is that they would rather have a cherry picking/40% defensively responsible superstar on their team than to have that money spent by Waddell on a whole bunch of nothing in the hometeam jersey…

Mike in Savannah

February 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

You know, I was willing to allow myself to believe this trade could have been beneficial for Atlanta, until the details of the trade were released. On the cusp of a second playoff birth, Waddell has already thrown in the towel getting nothing in return for perhaps one of greatest goal scorers the NHL will ever see. I was holding out hope that Atlanta would have gotten a good player at least. But no, Waddell settled for players who barely play or they are invisible while they are on the ice. And tell what the benefits were of throwing Salmella in the mix? Are you telling me our GM couldn’t have gotten this trade done without throwing him in there? WTF Waddell? WTF are you thinking? HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS MAN STILL THE GM???? I’m done with this team until that fat bastard is gone!!!

mike

February 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

im not very up on hockey.. but is this the equivalent of stan kasten trading nique for danny manning in 1993?

cliohemp

February 4th, 2010
10:31 pm

I’ve watched Don Waddell pretend to be a NCAA hockey player,he sucked.
The only thing that made him successful in Detroit was working with Scotty Bowman. He proved again tonight that he doesn’t have the ability to be a NHL exec. The only thing that he has succeeded at was selling portable toilets.

John

February 4th, 2010
10:32 pm

funny how everyone is saying he isn’t worth the $$ yet, less then 2 days after we let it be known he will be traded we have teams lining uo fo him. Let me see who has a better chance of winning this deal…the thrashers-losers on the ice and with attendance or The Devils 14 years straight in the playoffs with stanley cup rings. Anyone who thinks the Thrashers is an obvious SEASON TICKET SUCKER with Blueberry colored glasses. I will continue buying tickets for $10 and sitting in the empties until the team is GONE!!!!

Wreckmaniac

February 4th, 2010
10:33 pm

Can we now get serious and bring back the Knights ?

drano

February 4th, 2010
10:34 pm

James Brown – You don’t understand the “Jersey System”, but don’t feel bad, many people don’t. Alex Mogilny fit in just fine, plopped in 40+ goals and reached the Cup finals two straight years. I’ve been watching the Devs since ‘82 when they came to the Garden State. I understand how the team plays. You don’t even understand that the NY Press doesn’t really cover the Devs all that much. Sure, they will tonight when they speak of how they robbed your GM with one quality NHLer (Oduya – but he isn’t nearly as good as he was last year) for a rare sort of player that makes a quality team all that much better. I understand how you must be feeling right now, though, and it makes sense that you would lash out at me. Like I said, I feel for ya Atlanta.

Kane337

February 4th, 2010
10:34 pm

This sux. Every single Thrashers star has wanted their way out of town. Why is this? Is it the fanbase or the organization? Or both?

JJ

February 4th, 2010
10:35 pm

Another great trade. We got no one good in this deal. I would have rather keep Kovy then trade him for the guys we got. At least we would have a shot at playoffs if we keep Kovy. We can’t sell out a game and you think it is going to get better. I wonder if the owner’s think this is a great trade. All they are worried about is the Atlanta Hawks.

Wreckmaniac

February 4th, 2010
10:36 pm

This may even be the equivalent of the (dare I say it) Len Barker for
Brett Butler trade. Many readers will not know anything about this but it was and has continued to be, until possibly now, the most infamous trade in the history of Atl sports.

EA

February 4th, 2010
10:37 pm

I will be there Saturday night to support the rest of the players. No team is one player even if it is Ilya Kovalchuk.

BLUELANDjustMELTED

February 4th, 2010
10:38 pm

The lousy trade for Kovy is the ultimate demise of this organization and NHL in Atlanta! I guess he was Atlanta’s hockey version of “The Great Bambino.” I guess Waddell is getting paid big bux to play “FANTASY HOCKEY” in the front office. Don Waddell should have been fired years ago!! He’s pathetic and has ruined hockey for this City. Since ‘07, this organization has failed to produce a Playoff/Winning franchise. Just look at the Thrashers’ practice facility, it’s a dump! I play hockey there and cannot believe an NHL team is practicing at that place.

Furthermore, the “suits” (who care more about arguing over their ownership in court) have failed at keeping “cheeks in the seats.” Carolina and Nashville are doing things right, yet the largest city in the South proves once again at how much of a lacklaster sports city Atlanta truly is. Detroit is broke, yet every game is sold out. The Thrashers have had great hockey players since ‘99, the majority have gone on to other teams and become All-Stars.

Well, I’m a Chicago-transplant and really became “TRUE BLUE.” Before I left the Windy City, I vowed never to root for the HAWKS because the old Wirtz regime in Chi-town ruined hockey for the city. However, the Hawks have had a “Renaissance” in the past few years. Old man Wirtz died, his son took over and transformed the Hawks and acquired John McDonough as President and former NHLer and Blackhawk Dale Tallon as GM. Thrashers take note.

One appearance in the Playoffs was great for the Thrashers. But in order to become a Southeastern and NHL Powerhouse its time to get rid of the “old regime” that has penalized this team as a top contender. Heck, Widespread Panic has more sellouts at Philips than the Thrashers, just look at the banner at the rink!!!! Getting rid of Kovy, Hoss, Savvy (just to name a few) isn’t gonna bring Lord Stanley to the ATL. They should’ve gotten rid of “Groin Pull” Lehtonen, what a waste of money he is…I’m off the soap box and gonna log onto chicagoblackhawks.com. Have fun melting away in Blueland fans, I feel bad for you guys who really are true Thrash fans

Jeff Schultz

February 4th, 2010
10:39 pm

FOLKS — haven’t had a chance to wade through comments because I’ve been doing several rewrites. But last re-write is now posted. And how about this quote from Don Waddell: “I don’t think it sets us back at all. I think it moves us forward.”

Supes

February 4th, 2010
10:45 pm

Don Waddell: “I don’t think it sets us back at all. I think it moves us forward.”

Jeff, is this for REAL?

Unbelievable!

Worst possible trade for the Thrashers, but it should have never gotten to that point. If this team had an owner that actually PUT money and CARED about the success of the team.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
10:47 pm

@Kane337 – you guys need to support your team if you are going to hold onto players. While yes, you would support a winner, but who doesn’t? You have to support a team when they are losing too. You guys have had a team this year that has been in the playoff chase the whole season yet your arena is only sold out when Northern teams come to town. That’s not exactly what I call supporting a winner. That is not a recipe for holding onto the Hossas and Kovalchuks of the league either.

CobbThrasher

February 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

Wow Jeff, did he really say that? I think Donnie has a future in politics. He’s as out of touch with his fan base as the idots in Washington are with…..well, you know.

Ex-Kovy Fan

February 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

Drano, don’t get too confident. Remember, you got knocked out in the first round last year by Carolina. Sincerely, Atlanta

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February 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

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c.j.

February 4th, 2010
10:48 pm

Just in, Don Waddell was named President Obama’s Hockey Czar

Still love the Thrash

February 4th, 2010
10:49 pm

First to make a positive comment. At least we’ll get a top 5 pick again. haha

vinny

February 4th, 2010
10:49 pm

Here is how the negotiations went. The offer is 100 million with one condition,, whats that. Next year you will be playing in Winnipeg,,.. Nooooooo Wayyyyyy!!!!!

sad to see it end in Atlanta but with the economy as it is and so much for sports fans to enjoy in Atlanta the trucks are warming up for the drive north.

Wreckmaniac

February 4th, 2010
10:49 pm

I feel like I’m reading the UGA football blog

Kane337

February 4th, 2010
10:49 pm

Can we trade Don Waddell too? I wonder if New Jersey would take Don for their Zamboni driver in an even swap.

drano

February 4th, 2010
10:51 pm

For you guys wondering about what you got…

Bergfors – not a BAD player, but nothing to be too excited about. He spent four years in the minors (Albany/Lowell) and finally got a chance to be an everyday player in Jersey when the Devs let Shanahan go after the preseason. He is 5th in scoring for all rookies, but he got most of those when he was on a line with Zajac and Parise (I could score 15 goals on a line with those guys). He has one goal in the past 13 or 14 games. I would say he is a career 3rd liner – maybe a 2nd liner on a weak team. He’s a Swede but was not named to the Olympic team.

Oduya – solid d-man. He had a great season last year and cashed in with a 3 yr/$10.5 mil contract this past summer. This year, he’s had a groin injury but hasn’t been nearly as good as he was last year. I think he has a goal and 4 points on the season. He’s supposed to play for Sweden at the Olympics. Oduya was signed as a free agent a few years ago. He was originally drafted by the Caps but they never signed him and he played pro hockey in Sweden before the Devs brought him over. His dad is Nigerian, his mom is Swedish – he’s a Swedish national.

Cormier – don’t really know too much about this kid (except his elbow). I saw a few of the Canada games at the WJC this year and he seems like he should be a decent NHLer – provided he keep his temper under control. He was the captain of Team Canada at the WJC. He was scoring a point a game (11-20-31 in 31 games) for his junior team before being suspended for the remainder of the year because of the aforementioned elbow. The Devils had no plans to try to have him play in Lowell (AHL), but the Thrashers may look at it differently and assign him to their minor team. He signed a 3 year entry level contract over the summer.

!st round pick – Jersey also swapped 2nd with Atlanta, meaning that the swap was really something like Pick 26 for Pick 36. Not a big deal as the drop off in talent after #20 is usually swift and then levels off (meaning that #26 and #36 have nearly the same chance of being solid NHLers).

CJ

February 4th, 2010
10:52 pm

Ha! Just ran the Don Waddell interview on Fox and then ran a Gwinnett Gladiators ad right behind it…seems that Fox knows that we’ll shortly be left with nothing but the mighty ECHL (snore) in the metro area.

Old Time Hockey

February 4th, 2010
10:53 pm

Odouya and 3 first rounders for 27 games. I loved watching Ilya but he is NOT a max cap player. He would not come down off that and forced the trade. Time will tell if this is a step forward or back. If they embrace Anderson’s system and play as a balanced team, they might surprise. All depends on the goaltending. Be lucky to get a dozen water bottles for the fat goalie.

HF

February 4th, 2010
10:54 pm

You all will be crying in your beer if your boycott of hockey leads to the team leaving in the future. Who wants to play in a city where fans are boycotting the sport? Besides where was Kovalchuk’s loyalty to the fans? I have yet to hear him utter a word aboout the fans. All I have heard is money, money, and me.

Brendan

February 4th, 2010
10:57 pm

Jeff Schultz, will you please call for Waddell’s head on a pike in the morning paper? No, I’m not kidding, either. This franchise is starting to make Mike Milbury’s Islanders look good.

Look at all the talent that came and went. Audette, Brunette, Staios, Heatley, Hossa, Kaberle, Pothier, Donovan, Coburn, and Kovalchuk. And really, is Kari Lehtonen staying? He might be gone, too. And if it happens, what WERE those “lottery draft picks” about?
1999: Stefan (bust, traded for Niko Kapanen and Will O’Neil).

2000: Heatley, traded for Hossa and deVries. Both gone, with Eric O’Dell, Daultan Leveille, Angelo Esposito and pending UFA Colby Armstrong to show for it, after a trade with Pittsburgh in 2008.

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, traded for Oduya, Bergfors, Cormier, and a 1st round pick, plus a LESSER 2nd round pick.

2002: Kari Lehtonen – perpetually injured and mentally unstable, combined with immaturity of character

2003: Coburn, traded for Zhitnik, since boughtout.

2004: Boris Valabik, a 5th/6th defender, from the 10th overall draft position

2005: Alex Bourret, traded to NY Rangers for Pascal Dupuis + 3rd round pick. Dupuis was packaged with Hossa, and is perhaps best described as Colby Armstrong today. The 3rd round pick is now Chris Thorburn, a 4th line forward. Meanwhile, the originally held 8th overall pick was traded to SJ, who selected Devin Setoguchi. Atlanta picked up Chad Denny, still in ECHL, with the 2nd pick they received for moving to #12 overall. At #12 overall, Atlanta traded to NY Rangers, who selected Marc Staal. Atlanta picked up a 2nd round pick, who was converted into goaltender Ondrej Pavelec. Moving right along

2006: Bryan Little – Very promising center, pushed to the wing, now underperforming because of it. Little is a pending RFA

2007: 1st and 3rd deal for “Tkachuk rental.” 2nd round pick dealt for Vitaly Vishnevski, moved at 2007 trade deadline for Center Eric Belanger, who walked in free agency.

2008: Zach Bogosian – See Heatley/Coburn/Kovalchuk for future with team.

2009: Evander Kane – See Heatley/Coburn/Kovalchuk for future with team.

2010: Atlanta will probably pick 8th. With the NJ pick, they may be picking 20th – 24th overall.

What’s it all add up to? A headache. In its most simplistic form, it comes down to one (1) division championship, four (4) playoff games, and zero (0) playoff wins. What’s the point of hanging on to Waddell. Each and every blogger here … has just as many playoff wins to their credit as Waddell has, and we could have been bought for LESS than $900,000-a-year, which is about what Waddell makes.

C’est absoluement incroyable et insupportable. Honestly, if we spun a wheel … with possible choices for trades … “Maggie, The Monkey” might have done better over the past decade.

madame cormier

February 4th, 2010
11:01 pm

Allo, dis is da mom of Patrice, eee toll meee dat ee want to go to Hatlanta for da ockey. Isss Henglish is not so good so maybe you ave da game in french. maybe da teqm she go to kaybec da year next where da fan she is good.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
11:02 pm

Kovalchuk was tired of playing in front of 5,000 fans so he forced this trade. Anyone who didn’t see him forcing his way out of Atlanta hasn’t been to another arena. Now he can get what Ovechkin can’t – a Stanley Cup. Brodeur is healthy and Ilya will form a perfect 1-2 punch with Parise. Watch how inspired Ilya gets playing in front of our crowds. He will play defense for us.

Matt the Brave

February 4th, 2010
11:02 pm

And starting for your Kansas City Thrashers….

That’s where it’s heading folks. T-2 years to a move.

Praveen

February 4th, 2010
11:05 pm

Wow, as a Pens fan, this makes the Hossa trade look relatively not so bad for Wadell. Aargh, it doesn’t even look like Devils had to give up even a single top prospect in return. He might have just given the Devils a much better chance of getting the cup against the Caps and Pens from the East.

And yes, fan from Warner Robins, this is how Pirates fans feel. Thrashers are not as awful as the Pirates(at least you made the playoffs once), but damn, this must suck for you guys.

Damn, I wish they could have at least gotten one impact player from the DEvils. This is not as awful sa when Jagr was unloaded to the Caps and not a single prospect panned out even to a decent 3rd line career in the NHL. BUt it is not good.

Hey Matt

February 4th, 2010
11:06 pm

T-6 months is more like it

Matt the Brave

February 4th, 2010
11:07 pm

Hey Brenden, the reason that the ownership group doesn’t fire Waddell is because they can’t hire anyone else for as cheaply, nor will they pay the buyout for firing him. The best hope for Atlanta hockey came down when they could have let him walk, but they decided to resign him. If the Thrashers move, then we will never see major league hockey in the ATL again.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
11:07 pm

You guys have been in the playoff chase all year and you don’t support your team. Blame the GM all you want, if you don’t show up to the games when the team is holding one of the playoff seeds you will continue to see players skip town.

Devils Fan

February 4th, 2010
11:08 pm

A little input on the players you got.

Bergfors is a quick young Swede who got in Lemaires doghouse for taking long shifts. He still has a lot to learn defensively but has the talent to be a consistent 20+ goal scorer. He is good enough now to make the Swedish Olympic team but didn’t make the cut because he wasn’t on their radar and therefore didn’t get the required drug testing that they start about a year before the games start. He is good along the boards. He has had a history of shoulder injuries while in the minors which probably delayed his entrance into he NHL.

Oduya is curious case. He is a VERY good skater. Good 5on5. Can play on the PP and is a good penalty killer. Sometimes he just explodes with his speed. He started out slow this season, got hurt, came back and now his game is starting to get back to the point where it was last season when us Devils fans were affectionately calling him Johnny Orr-duya and Lou made it a priority to sign him while letting Brian Gionta and John Madden walk.

Haven’t seen Cormier live but Lemaire really liked him in training camp.

As for us Devils fans, this is only a good trade if we win the cup. Good luck to you guys.

PMC

February 4th, 2010
11:08 pm

How does Don Waddell form his mouth to make those comments or pen those words?

Vallium? Lithium? He should be shackled from head to toe in a strait jacket and headed to Milledgeville if he even halfway believes the words being attributed to him.

When something amazing happens and the man drafts talent he finds a way to run them off on a desperate attempt at less than mediocrity.

Maybe he moonlights at AIG

boom boom still rules

February 4th, 2010
11:08 pm

Brendan, Nice walkthrough of the drafting history and ineptitude. As I’ve mentioned before, the Trash are the Clippers of hockey. They could draft Jesus himself and he’d pull a groin in training camp and be out for the season, only to be traded later for prospects.

SEA

February 4th, 2010
11:08 pm

Are the same people who are outraged about Kovy not signing the same ones who refused to go to a hockey game? Face it folks, attendance was a factor in his decision to leave. He never missed an opportunity to comment on a big crowd or ask fans to come support the team.

PMC

February 4th, 2010
11:09 pm

Go Devils I guess.

c.j.

February 4th, 2010
11:09 pm

Hey, Terrell Owens is looking for a job as a winger, since he already achieved the best receiver in football status.

Don Waddell, I see a spot for you on every single urinal puck in Atlanta.

confused

February 4th, 2010
11:10 pm

this is pretty pointed, Shultzie. The only real complaint should be that he was traded to an Eastern division team, eerily similar to Frenchy to the Mets, although with greater probable consequences. But really what were the Thrashers to do at this point? They offered him over $100 million dollars (that’s winning the lottery) but that wasn’t going to be enough.

I don’t know….I guess I am saying I don’t think that it’s the ownership’s fault that Atlanta isn’t Detroit or Philly or Chicago or St. Louis or N.Y. and even if you bring the superstar to town you aren’t going to sell enough tickets to resign that superstar when his contract is up.

NJDevil2010

February 4th, 2010
11:10 pm

First off, as a Devs season ticket holder since 82, I can only say that I’m truly excited to see Kovy suit up in the red and black. The Devs have changed dramatically in the past years and are NOT the same team who played the neutral zone trap of the mid/late 90s. Forwards are encouraged to be creative and take chances if they think they can generate realistic scoring chances. Kovy will fit in very well, and could be the missing component to help the Devs make a serious challenge for the Cup. I mean, come on, the guy’s a total witch on the ice…..scoring 40+ without (no offense) a huge supporting cast. I’ve seen him pot more than a few against Marty, so it’ll be nice to see him do it against other teams in the East.

Sorry to the ATL fans on this one. You’re getting some decent talent as drano above says, but I’ll ALWAYS take the bonafide star over the prospects. Bird in the hand and all….now I just hope we can lock him up long term. Waddell seriously fumbled on this one.

Mike

February 4th, 2010
11:12 pm

Smoke that bonk Don

Eileen

February 4th, 2010
11:14 pm

Sweet Lou, your comments about attendance are spot on.

Matt

February 4th, 2010
11:16 pm

Don Waddell, the absolute KING of the asinine comment.

c.j.

February 4th, 2010
11:18 pm

How can Florida get to a Cup, Tampa Bay win one, and Carolina win one?
WTF Atlanta, WTF!

30-24 Dawgs Run This State!

February 4th, 2010
11:19 pm

The Thrashers are now dead to me.

Shame on you Waddell!

vinny

February 4th, 2010
11:22 pm

Why blame waddell? Kovy made it clear he wasn’t interested in staying. The cap will go down next year. Waddell got what he could. Not many teams are profitable enough to send that kind of dough. NJ will see what happens in the playoffs then see what happens in the off season.

It hard to sign players when you get 3000 fans at $10 bucks each.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
11:22 pm

Eileen I hate to say it to you guys but it has to be said. I don’t want to hear crap about freakin’ ownership or the GM being bad because you would support a winning team. I hear that all the time from other Sun Belt teams. But your team has been in the chase this year and as of right now you are about 2 points out of it. If you can’t support a team that is 2 points out of the playoffs you don’t deserve Kovalchuk.

c.j.

February 4th, 2010
11:22 pm

This just in. Undisclosed in the trade was Thrash the Mascot for two experienced beer vendors.

Steve Johnstone

February 4th, 2010
11:23 pm

Cormier is a criminal and should be banned from the NHL. I will not support the Thrashers if they let him play. Is this an example of the ‘new image for the Thrashers’ Don????

CJ

February 4th, 2010
11:24 pm

Apparently the deal for the arena with Philips calls for it to have two sports teams occupying through the life of that deal…that deal is up in 2015-16…after that I’m pretty sure it’s either Hamilton, Kansas City, or contraction…it would have killed me to think the Thrashers would leave a few years ago, Ownership and Waddell has driven me to a point of numbness never before seen…

c.j.

February 4th, 2010
11:25 pm

Hey I Believe in Sweet Lou,
see my comment above,
Tampa Bay, with one Cup
Carolina, with one Cup
Florida, with one Cup appearance
and Atlanta? bent over once again

Pat

February 4th, 2010
11:28 pm

Why did Atlanta pursue a NHL franchise in the first place? How blatently dumb can you be? NOBODY CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stevens for Prez

February 4th, 2010
11:28 pm

Sweet Lou nails it on the head. If you can’t support a team that is 2 points out of the playoffs you don’t deserve Kovalchuk.

eric bure

February 4th, 2010
11:30 pm

game over man game over. Just like minnesota sports teams but not as bad. EX. Moss, Gabby, KG, Rolston

CJ

February 4th, 2010
11:32 pm

LOL @ NJ fans giving lessons on being a good fan and who deserves good players…step away from the keyboard, Vinny

Praveen

February 4th, 2010
11:33 pm

The local sports news in Atlanta sucks. I know that they dont care about NHL in the media, but for them to give short shrift to covering the trade of the biggest player the Thrashers ever had is ridiculous. On 11 News, they had the Ga Tech score precede the Kovy trade in the teaser, and there was not one bit of analysis of the trade in the sports segment. Horrible.

Fred Kalil was reporting it like it was just another routine bit of sports news.

Mike

February 4th, 2010
11:34 pm

Not fond of hockey too many white guys

Caps Rule

February 4th, 2010
11:37 pm

You Trasher fans do not get it. Kovy was greedy – period. He thinks he is Ovechkin and he simply is not. $100M for 12 years was a fair deal and DW, as dumb as he can be, was smart to send Kovy packing. Kovy was gone after April anyway and DW got something instead of nothing. The sad part is that Trasher Hockey is a first and only a business. The blame on this is Kovy and only on Kovy, everyone else had to react to Kovy’s greed. The only other play DW had was to sit and watch as Kovy did not get the deal done as he wished it to be (Max Ceiling Money) and hope Kovy would crawl back (something a Captain does not do).

Say what you want, this is the scoreboard and the scoreboard does not lie.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
11:39 pm

@c.j. 11:25pm those are all one year wonders outside of Carolina who makes a big run one year and is in last place this year. But that has nothing to do with support for the team. We are the castoffs of the tri-state area that supports 3 teams and gets more fans than you do. What has Florida done since that appearance in the finals? Nothing except lose Bouwmeester. Carolina is great one year but goes to last place the following year. The Lightning are in all sorts of financial trouble and couldn’t hold onto Brad Richards or Dan Boyle. When you can come out to the games and support your team you won’t lose out on big name guys like Kovalchuk. We have to compete with the freakin Rangers and yet have better numbers than you do. We also have a smaller arena so our averages are way down. Show up to the games and you’d be surprised what happens.

Bobby Buttox

February 4th, 2010
11:41 pm

I just want to say how much Phillips arena S U C K S! Everything! management, people, food. That place is a curse. What else would you expect from downtown A-T-L?
Build a new arena north of Atlanta and more people will go to the games.

alphadawg

February 4th, 2010
11:42 pm

Mike – what kind of a dumb comment is that??

Put Waddell on a bus out of this town. Put the For Sale sign on the front door know and get the heavily dispirited Spirit Group out while we can.

Please let the housecleaning that needs to happen at the Thrashers front office begin now and not stop til we have new management that understands how to run a hockey franchise in a first class town.

Caps Rule

February 4th, 2010
11:44 pm

The Devils made a good move – it should make the race for #1 in the Conference a bit more interesting – unless the Caps keep winning. The big question will be the playoffs and Kovy does not have the experience in winning the cup. This is a trade the Devils needed last year but still, it’s good move and it should make Devils-Caps games even more interesting.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 4th, 2010
11:44 pm

LOL @ Atlanta fans talking trash about NJ fans when we just stole your prized player…step away from the keyboard CJ.

confused

February 4th, 2010
11:47 pm

I think Mike maybe onto something as to why Atlanta will never be a hockey town.

Brendan

February 4th, 2010
11:48 pm

Matt, The Brave: You know another GM had be found for less than 900K a year. Scour the Assistant GM’s. Scour the AHL GM’s. They want their shot, somewhere. This GM hasn’t been worth a third of his paycheck since 2002. Yet someone, it’s the “right move” to keep him. By the way, Forbes Magazine says Don Waddell’s contract expires in 2010. Didn’t say which month. Might be April. Might be June. I don’t know. But if that man is still in charge, then there’s no hope for this franchise.

Boom, Boom still rules: Thanks. And I see your point.

SEA: I respect where you’re going with that argument. If I can follow it to its logical conclusion, if the franchise sold more tickets, it’d have more revenue, and could theoretically spend more money on players.

Nice theory. But the practical reality is, whether due to the lawsuit or general apathy, this franchise hasn’t spend what it otherwise could have, or should have. It’s operated on the cheap, for whatever the reason. I have something close to ZERO confidence in this group … when they say they’re going to go out and sign free agents. How’d that Brian Campbell negotiation go? Was Hossa interested in staying with this franchise? Shoot even Kovy, here 8 years, settled in a MAGNIFICENT Atlanta HOME, had seen enough. This ownership just plain, flatout, doesn’t know what it’s doing. There’s just no sugarcoating that.

SEA: I just cannot accept … that “a lack of fan support/attendance” was the reason he forced his way out of town. The real reason is … that this franchise is ineptly run. And truthfully, Kovy didn’t see a Stanley Cup coming from this ownership/management team over the next 7, 10, or 12 years. That’s the reason, not lack of attendance, that Kovalchuk wouldn’t re-sign. Who wants to commit to a team that crosses the road, blind-folded? Think about it, SEA. If 6,000 fans showed up, but the team were 60-20-2, Kovy would stay. The goal is to win. Bottom line: Kovy had no faith in the AS, LLC, who continued to employ Waddell, the lone architect of 1 playoff berth, zero playoff wins, through nine (9) completed season. How does one expect the Kovalchuk camp to simply IGNORE that? To ignore that Hartley wasn’t fired in 2007, after the playoff sweep. How does one expect the Kovalchuk camp to IGNORE that Hossa LEFT???? And was replaced by Eric Perrin and Todd White!! How does one expect the Kovalchuk camp … to simply ignore that Waddell came down to coach the team for 76-games in 2008. Kovy told his agent, “Make sure we’re outta here by 2010.” Mission Accomplished for Kovy, whose phone rang off the hook tonight.

The callers? Marc Savard: “Hi Kovy. Man, sorry we couldn’t have hooked up in Boston. Best of luck in Jersey.” Dany Heatley: “Told ya, bro. Your sentence in Atlanta would be more than mine. But you’re out with ‘time served.’” Marian Hossa: “Hi Kovy. I know we weren’t the best of friends. But I’m here to tell you … that there’s life after Atlanta. The air smells fresher. The water tastes sweeter. Even the ice seems better underneath your skates. Welcome to the world of POSSIBILITIES, Ilya. Congrats to you. You did the right thing by leaving.”

CJ

February 4th, 2010
11:50 pm

@Bobby…what evidence do you have that guarantees better results north of the city…And exactly what is it that you hate so much about downtown. It’s okay, you can tell the truth, its only the internet, no one will be able to punch you when you inevitably say something offensive….

Oh, and @Sweet Lou…when we show up to the games we’ll see the same thing we always do…a subpar product. We have options here in this city, once you’ve been offended enough you learn to explore your options.

Tincup9

February 4th, 2010
11:50 pm

Forrest Gump is our GM

Dubious

February 4th, 2010
11:51 pm

Remember—the two finalists for the GM job in 1998 were Don Waddell and Brain Burke. Harvey Schiller made the final decision I recall. Burke has won a Stanley Cup at Anaheim and had good years at Vancouver. How things might have been different.

CJ

February 5th, 2010
12:02 am

Oh Sweet Lou…the difference is if this were anything else this city this theft that you speak of would be as tragic for us as it is euphoric for you but, real talk, hockey is a DISTANT fourth as far as citizen attention in this town. So while Kovy leaving bites, it’s really only going to resonate a few weeks outside of the hockey hardcore in the metro area. Up until last year I did 30-35 games a year, even so this is a shrugger for me because the org is SO poorly run, it was to be expected. I understand, though, the glory you feel in the frozen tundra of your rental victory, what else is there to glory in in Newark?

Brendan

February 5th, 2010
12:03 am

Dubious: Wow. Harvey Schiller. What a dufous! His legacy lives on, though. :roll:

A,S

February 5th, 2010
12:03 am

Dear Don Waddell and Thrashers co.

Leavers Atlanta. You are no longer wanted.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 5th, 2010
12:04 am

@CJ 11:50pm – Subpar product? You are 2 points out of the playoffs and were in the playoffs for a good chunk of the season. That is not subpar that is a city that doesn’t appreciate hockey. Oh and by the way in the metropolitan area we have this little known city called New York I think it has 10x if not 100x the options that your hicktown has. Go ahead tell us how Atlanta has more options than New York City.

thethird

February 5th, 2010
12:04 am

28 other nhl teams r kickin themselves thinking we coulda had him if thats all it took

NJ Lou should b arrested for child abuse after treatin DW like t

Give me a break

February 5th, 2010
12:06 am

Awesome, love how you guys have my comments pulled down…cold hard truth fellas, guess it hurts you too much; gotta keep throwing up CR*P on this page. Get on with your greed, and join Kovy in the NJ wasteland, or sit back and think how ridiculous you are for wanting the GM fired for not paying the highest contract in NHL history for someone that won’t provide more than about ten ESPN Top 10 Plays a year and NO TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS. TEAM…oh wait, forgot you’re all Leons, “ain’t no I either”, just born losers. Too funny…

WTF

February 5th, 2010
12:07 am

I echo WTF2, where’s the loyalty in the era of $. Gone. It’s not Kovy’s fault.How do you build a franchise? Heatley & Kovalchuck, and a dash of Hossa. (oh its too hard to keep them) That’s a franchise, that’s a winner, that’s not the Atlanta (non) Spirit. Obviously their focus is all on the Hawks and not hockey. Lower payroll more attractive buying point for some city with an ownership that gives an damn for their fans. Does ASG not have a business clue? Yes, they do sell the Thrashers to anyone who’ll buy.

We are trying to sell a PeeWee(insert Bantam, High School, ECHL, AHL, etc) product on an NHL ticket price. Give me an AHL team and I am back as a season ticket holder.

Thought you would just give me a break

February 5th, 2010
12:10 am

Wow, just write me out, you guys need a grip…are you all P’Diddy and Mase fans…seeing as how the only thing anyone here seems to care about is CREAM…like a bunch a throwbacks. Forget about caring for anyone around you and having a little pride, just go be THAT guy…Nice move Waddell, it’s time for a gut check around here…

Mike in Savannah

February 5th, 2010
12:12 am

And to all those who are blaming the fans…. we have had to put up with this crap for 10 years now. They put a crap product on the ice year in and year out. We are sick of losing some of the best talent on the team every season. Fans have been in the seats in years prior, but we knew is was going to come to this… the team plays hard and barely misses the playoffs or they suck one big time at the end of the year and miss again. All because of the $hitty product on the ice…. So yes, I blame the GM… not myself as a fan who has attended a few games despite the fact that I was laid off work and am currently unemployed and just as broke as Detroit. So don’t come in here and say this is the fans’ fault…

CJ

February 5th, 2010
12:13 am

Lou, my friend, you’re thinking in very small terms…you’re looking at a singular year. Kovy’s decision not to re-up with the Thrashers is not about this year, my presumption is that its about the collective experience with this team and this group. For ten years we have heard excuses and been faced with pretty bad hockey on the ice and the experience around it. You know nothing of that because for the last decade and a half the Devils have been, well, good.

As far as your hicktown comment, I’ll let you have it and having spent time in the NYC area for my job on several occasions I’ll say the options are limitless…what I was saying before your NY area ego decided to take offense is that the average citizen doesn’t live and die with pro sports like the citizens of most northern cities. Most choose to explore OUR options rather than support that which depresses. Get it now or do you need the Fisher Price version?

Praveen

February 5th, 2010
12:13 am

Let’s see if Kovy is good enough to sell out that arena in NJ. NJ has a much superior team management compared to Atl, but even that is not good enough to sell out their arena consistently. NJ is not much more of a hockey region than Atlanta at this point.

So, let’s examine the last two blockbuster trades. Dupuis and Colby Armstrong are effectively a wash maybe with a slight edge to Colby though Dupuis has been great this year. So Waddell got Christiansen and Esposito for Hossa.

Now , with Kovalchuk, he got 3 decent players. But NJ has no problem getting decent players, so it’s like they gave up nothing because they will find players just as good easily in the offseason or via the draft. If Atl had good management, they wouldn’t be wasting such trades on “decent” players. Not one impact player in the two trades. Amazing.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 5th, 2010
12:15 am

@CJ 12:02am – are you arguing against me or for me? Telling me that hockey is a distant 4th in your town only backs up what I already said. Take cheap shots at Newark if you like it doesn’t bother me cuz you don’t understand the metro area and its hockey fans. As for our rental victory you don’t know crap about hockey otherwise you would know how many cups we won recently. But thank you for reminding me that we are the team renting players and you are the city on the wrong side of the great train robbery. Finally the frozen tundra comment could you please tell me what type of surface the sport of hockey is played on?

opinionator

February 5th, 2010
12:17 am

I smelled this coming when Hossa got away and Don kept his nice office. I thought they should have brought in a proven, gutsy GM like Neil Smith to turn it up quickly on personnel and prevent the exodus of another superstar in Ilya. Think of it…we’ve had three major scorers here, what expansion team could ever say that this early in their history. But we’ve had nothing else. The hardest thing to find is big scoring…we just keep letting it slip away.
Neil Smith is still out there, Spirit…now there’s no excuse, the fans are outraged.

Stuart

February 5th, 2010
12:18 am

Who does Don Waddell have the dirt on? How can this complete boob keep his job? 1 playoff appearance in TEN FREAKIN” YEARS

Fed Up

February 5th, 2010
12:19 am

Let’s see, hmmmm, $8.5 million or $10 million, see you later Atlanta, you can’t win, and if I can’t win I want $10 million, better yet, I’ll get my $10 million and still win…hello Devils, you kind of remind me of myself, oh wait, did I just say that out loud, da** inner-monologue…Hey everyone, let’s blame the GM, because why would we ever blame anyone else, like an overpaid player, that’s just silly…

Stuart

February 5th, 2010
12:20 am

Don Waddell is dead to the city of Atlanta. He has singlehandedly destroyed hockey in Atlanta. If that idiot is the GM next year then I hope the Thrashers lose every single game until he’s gone. A complete moron.

uga-brave

February 5th, 2010
12:20 am

This is the end of the Atlanta franchise. They have no players to build the team against. Getting so-so players for one of the best in the league does not put butts in the stands. The ownership and Waddell need to get a grasp on what makes a franchise. It’s not selling your best players year after year. Why do I want to go to the game on Saturday with this mindset (unfortunately I already bought my tickets)?

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 5th, 2010
12:21 am

@CJ 12:13am – if you are going to make the argument that you don’t live and die by your sports team it would help if you weren’t making the comment on a sports blog after 12 oclock in the morning. Just because we support hockey instead of nascar doesn’t mean you could talk trash to us about only being focused on hockey. If you can’t handle it go explore some options now and get off the freakin hockey blog.

upnorth_thrasher

February 5th, 2010
12:23 am

Don’t kid yourself Thrasher Fans, there is not a franchise in the NHL that can afford Kovie at the price he is asking, especially not the Devils, they freed up what…. 1.4 million with the trade and have how many millions in Brodeur and Elias, come on this is a “rental” scenario. Sure we give up 20 goals but pickup a solid skating defense man and good twoway player in Bergfors (he has 13 goals). This is a good deal. If Kovie takes a “discount” and resigns then maybe Thrasher fans lose out. I doubt it will happen. KHL here he comes. Chase the dollars and not the Cups!!! Real “Captains” do not abandon the ship!!! No matter how rough the WATERS!!!! DW did a good job today.

Fed Up

February 5th, 2010
12:26 am

It’s “how many cups we’ve (could also use “we have”) won recently” Just thought Lou might want that one in the pocket for later. Grammar rocks. So we’ve got a head case that never panned out, a guy that just can’t live here anymore b/c of the accident (someone just coughed b/s, cause it was all about money), a free agent mercenary (who was all about money), and a 10 year man who decided “what the he-hockey sticks”, its all about money…Notice the resemblance…dimensia, no wait that was just P. Stef…

Mike in Savannah

February 5th, 2010
12:27 am

Oh and Sweet Lou, how do you explain to fans that you have traded your number 1 player when you are only 2 points out of the playoff race? Like I said, year after year for 10 straight and counting now….

CJ

February 5th, 2010
12:30 am

Lou…this has been fun but you’re obviously not capable of linear thought so I’m going to bed. I am a sports fanatic, most in this town are not (transplants or just dont give a da*n outside of UGA Football) I love hockey, love football more, love basketball and baseball more…Oh, and I hate NASCAR but thanks for painting with that broad stroke in the wrong color and with the wrong brush…but I’m here because I’m an insomniac sports nut in a city where a pretty big story just broke and along the way a sweet little boy named Lou said something stupid…so I stopped to play in the sandbox for a while. Again, have fun with Kovy, he’s a great player and the staff there hopefully can get some defense out of him. Try to relax a bit, that NY state of mind apparently has you really uptight.

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 5th, 2010
12:30 am

@Praveen – the team losing the superstar always loses the trade. Happens that way all the time so don’t expect to get anything good when you got a gun to your head to make a move. Sad thing for you guys is that the teams winning the first round in the playoffs will most likely be Jersey Washington Buffalo and Pittsburgh. One of them might get upset but after this trade it won’t be us. So Kovalchuk is going to win at least one round in the playoffs. That’s going to make him sign with us this summer. If he gets a wiff of the finals he is going to give us a hometown discount cuz what I read it’s not about the money it’s about beating Ovechkin and Ovy’s team don’t have the defense or goaltending to advance far. Now throw in all the Russians Kovalchuk will meet in the city and he’s gonna stay with us. You had no chance of winning that trade let alone winning a trade where you are the one giving up the superstar.

Fed Up

February 5th, 2010
12:30 am

FYI, thank God someone else understands, thank you ‘upnorth’

I believe in Sweet Lou

February 5th, 2010
12:35 am

If Kovalchuk is under the cap now with his current salary which ain’t cheap he can easily be under the cap when Lou Lam is done talking to his agent and they advanced in the playoffs. One more time if you don’t support your team when you are fighting for a playoff seed then ownership won’t need to explain to fans that you traded your number 1 player because you don’t have any fans to begin with.

Boom Boom Jeffron

February 5th, 2010
12:36 am

Tell me how Don Waddell still has a job? This is the greatest mystery in sports. I don’t care what you say about ownership. The guy has had ten years and we have ZERO playoff wins. And the greatest player in our history was traded away, in his prime, for BUMS. That should improve attendance. Everyone associated with this sorry-a$$ franchise should be ashamed. I haven’t been this mad at an Atlanta franchise since Nique was traded.

P. Bull Terrier

February 5th, 2010
12:37 am

A couple of weeks ago, I tried to buy tickets to this Friday night’s game using the Thrashers web site. Fortunately, like everything else involving the Thrashers, the ticket sales portion of the site was malfunctioning and I wasn’t able to purchase the tickets.

Thanks to Don and the Atlanta Spirit Group, I’ll never have to worry about wasting $200+ on worthless Thrashers tickets again. From now on, I’ll spend my money on more legitimate sports events – like midget arm wrestling.

(To be fair, it was the ticket vendor’s site that was “undergoing maintenance”, but I got there from the Thrashers web site.)

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Want My Floor Seats?

February 5th, 2010
12:45 am

drano…You DO realize you guys picked up a rental who just rejected $101 Million and $10 Million/yr contracts, right? It will be interesting to see how it works out for ya. If you get The Cup, it was a winner of a trade…..If you don’t, then it was pretty much a LOSER of a trade. A cold beer and my left nt says you don’t re-sign him after this year…

Kovy became an instant liability to the Thrashers (and the entire NHL salary structure if the truth be told) when he scoffed at $101 Million. Once he did that, I’m surprised Waddell could even UNLOAD him to anyone for anything before July 1st. Just think of “all” of the teams that could afford to bid for his services…..Yeah, that’s what I mean.

Schultz, would you PLEASE stop pumping the crowd and trying to turn them into a mob with torches and pitchforks??? Surely you can see that KOVY AND GROSSMAN tied Waddell’s hands on this one and thought they’d successfully EXTORTED the franchise for max cap money…Right up until he was told he was being traded.

I got to hand it to Waddell. I thought he was bluffing about the trading. Kovy had become a CANCER here with his rejection of every single offer below 12 years at $13.46 Million/yr. I’M SO GLAD they didn’t cave into his quite obviously UNREALISTIC DEMANDS. I’m tired of paying $10 for a Coke and basic hot dog already…..If they’d given in to Kovy, the Coke & dog would be $20 next year!

Kovy’s not in ATL anymore, but NHL Hockey still IS. This team is MORE than just one player. Get over it people and stop pouting…Go out Sat night and watch Bolts get some good fight! It will be SURREALISTIC Sat nt without Kovy, but don’t miss it. The first home game post-Kovy. BE THERE!

uga-brave

February 5th, 2010
12:53 am

I don’t understand how one of the best players in the league can be let go for a rookie that will be a free agent in July, a defenseman that seems to be pretty good, a minor league player that was suspended for the year, and a question mark. Doesn’t seem like an even trade to me.

Waddell needs to go.

I’ll be there on Saturday cheering one way or another. I just don’t agree with the direction (or mis-direction) of this club.

Michael

February 5th, 2010
12:54 am

Well, Hockeysfutures already updated and the two younger prospects are already #1 at Center and #1 at Right Forward, so I would say Atlanta didn’t do that badly in trading a player that would have crippled the franchise for years with a $100 million contract running until the player was in his early 40s and playing on the 4th line.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/atlanta_thrashers

Mike in Savannah

February 5th, 2010
12:56 am

Lou, I’m sorry, but its pointless to try and argue with someone with as little knowledge about our team history as you. People always try to point the finger at the attendance but we have put up with a lackluster product on the ice for years. You cannot tell me that this Thrasher’s team is a good looking team with a chance to advance in the playoffs, let alone MAKE the playoffs. The fans have seen this before. Get rid of your best player even if you have a chance to make it. Happened when we had Hossa. And now Waddell has worked his magic yet again. This is not a one year thing as much as you want to think it is. Waddell has proved how inept he is as the GM of this organization year after year. Fans will not waste their money to see a pathetic team play year after year. Ask the Lions fans, Knicks fans, Jaguars fans, Royals fans, Rams fans, Buccaneers fans of the 70s 80s and 90s, etc.. NONE of those teams are in Atlanta. But according your logic, they must be since those fans don’t fill the stadiums/arenas when their teams suck year after year. Sure, they were 2 points out at the time of the trade. They were close last year before they flamed out. They were still “in it” when Hossa was traded the year before. Fans were in the seats then, but not now. Fool use 9 times shame on Waddell. Fool us 10 times, he can kiss our collective a$$e$.

Want My Floor Seats?

February 5th, 2010
1:01 am

The release went on to suggest the Thrashers had offered the 26-year-old Russian $101 million over 12 years and $70 million over seven years, either of which would have been the biggest contracts of their kind.

“If we went beyond these offers,” the statement continued, “we would not be able to retain the young players on our roster when it came time to sign them, or invest in other top tier players needed to assemble a truly competitive team.”

And in that since Waddell is right. As Ken Campbell aptly pointed out in late December, the Thrashers were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t give in to Kovalchuk’s salary demands.

Had they kept him, giving him the max amount — $11.36 million per season — allowed under the collective bargaining agreement that he reportedly was seeking, it would have handcuffed them and their ability to sign free agents and their own prospects who would come up for contracts. Atlanta isn’t a team willing to spend to the cap and a contract that ate up 20 percent of $56.8 million would have been crippling.

Michael

February 5th, 2010
1:07 am

Patrice Cormier
Prospect Grade: 7.5 C (About Prospect Grades)
Profile Contributed By: HF Staff

History

2007-08: A multitude of injuries (burst appendix, concussion and a pair of shoulder problems) significantly hampered Cormier throughout most of the season. However, he was finally able to fully regain his stride and get his overall game back on track late in the year, which was punctuated with an impressive post-season, in which he led Rimouski in scoring with four goals and nine points in nine games. In the regular season, he scored 18 goals and 23 assists, and posted 84 PIM’s in 51 games. While his draft status was all over the map due to his injuries, New Jersey used one of their two second round draft picks on Cormier.

2008-09: Cormier struggled last season due to injury, however in his third full QMJHL season, he was able to put that rough 2007-08 year behind him and rebound to have a fantastic season for the Rimouski Oceanic. His numbers improved across the board, as he finished fourth in team scoring with 23 goals and 28 assists in 54 games. Cormier earned himself a gold medal on Team Canada’s entry at the World Junior Championship this past winter, where he excelled as a physical, checking-line torpedo. He had a strong playoff for Rimouski, and an even better Memorial Cup performance, as one of the leaders and top players on the team.

Talent Analysis

Cormier has a very intriguing package of skills. At 6′2, 201 lbs, he is well built to play a power-forward type of game, and he’s definitely not afraid to play that way. Cormier has good hockey sense and an above average shot. He forechecks aggressively, throwing his weight around and will power his way to the front of the net with the puck to create offense. He works hard at both ends of the rink and is a contributor on both the power play and penalty kill.

Future

While Cormier may not be the most naturally gifted player, he’s about as well-rounded a prospect as the Devils have coming up right now. He possesses both the offensive skill set and defensive acumen to eventually be a two-way force at the next level. Having just signed his first pro contract this summer, Cormier will look to make an impact in training camp, and unless he finds his way onto the Devils roster, he will return to Rimouski for the 2009-10 season, with an eye towards turning pro in 2010-11.

Michael

February 5th, 2010
1:07 am

Nicklas Bergfors
Prospect Grade: 7.0 B (About Prospect Grades)
Profile Contributed By: HF Staff

History

2004-05: Bergfors put up respectable numbers in the top Swedish junior league, scoring 34 points in 21 games, including 18 goals. He was later promoted to Sodertalje’s senior men’s team, and saw action in 25 games and scored his first ever SEL league goal. Bergfors also represented Team Sweden at the U20 World Junior Championship as well as the U18 World Junior Championship. At the U18’s, he was named to the tournament All-Star team, and scored six goals in seven games. He was selected second overall in the CHL Import draft by the QMJHL’s expansion St. John’s Fog Devils in early July and was selected 23rd overall in the first round of the 2005 NHL draft by the New Jersey Devils.

2005-06: Easily the youngest player in the AHL (he turned 19 on March 7th), Bergfors finished the season as the River Rats active leading scorer with 17 goals and 23 assists for 40 points in 65 games. His 40 points was 33rd among AHL rookies, and no other team had a leading scorer with so few points. Bergfors had a -11 rating, but his play at the other end of the rink improved with each game. Bergfors showed to be deceptively strong for a player his size and age and played smart and disciplined; only 10 penalty minutes in 65 games is quite an accomplishment.

2006-07: After an electric first season as the youngest player in the AHL, Bergfors somewhat underachieved in his second year as a pro. After leading the River Rats in scoring last season with 17 goals and 40 points, Bergfors only produced 13 goals and 19 assists in 60 games this year. His underwhelming play was most apparent at the World Junior Championships where he was one of Team Sweden’s most disappointing players, recording only two assists in seven games.

2007-08: Upon first glance at Bergfors’ numbers (12 goals and 15 assists in 66 games), one would think that he had a sub-par year. But he made New Jersey’s opening night roster after a strong showing in training camp and exhibition games. Unfortunately for Bergfors, he ended up injuring his shoulder in his first NHL game, and he spent a month recovering before being returned to Lowell, where he subsequently injured his other shoulder. He started to show improvement in his overall play once the shoulder injuries were completely healed, but, in essence, those injuries ruined his season.

2008-09: Bergfors put up the best numbers of his four full seasons in the AHL, putting up career best totals across the board. In 66 games for Lowell, he recorded 22 goals and 29 assists, good enough for second best on the club. If not for a brief early season call up to New Jersey, where he suited up for eight games, scoring his first NHL goal, his numbers likely would have been even better.

Talent Analysis
Bergfors is a well rounded player, and is more than willing to compete hard at both ends of the rink, a trait that is quite important for a player that gets drafted into the Devils organization. Bergfors sees the ice very well, possessing above average hockey sense that keeps him one step ahead of everyone else. He is a responsible defensive player and is not afraid to play physical style of game.

His overall offensive skill set is impressive as Bergfors has great speed, agility and stick handling ability. Add in the fact that he is tough to knock off the puck and you have a player that is able to create a lot for his teammates and for himself in the offensive zone. Bergfors is equally adept at setting up as he is finishing as he has a good shooting arsenal and touch around the goal.

While Bergfors is blessed with an enormous amount of natural skill, he must improve his work ethic and desire not just on a game to game basis, but a shift to shift basis. The talent is there, but he must compete harder and show more consistency.

Future
The time appears to be now for Bergfors to finally make the jump full time to the next level. The loss of second line right winger Brian Gionta to free agency means that Bergfors has the best opportunity of his young career to become a full time NHL’er. There is no doubting his offensive tools, but he also has the defensive acumen to prosper under new Devils coach Jacques Lemaire. He has nothing left to prove in the AHL, and this should finally be the year that Bergfors sticks in New Jersey.

Mike in Savannah

February 5th, 2010
1:08 am

You guys have to remember, Waddell had stopped talking to Grossman (Kovalchuk’s agent) for weeks now. It wasn’t until just in the last few days that he offered anywhere close to what they were asking. Of course Kovy chose to move on. The direction of the ownership and the organization is going nowhere. Kovy wanted to see what this team could do. They were middle of the road. The organization saw that this team was competitive, but was missing something. So what did they do? NOTHING. They didn’t inquire other teams about any other players available in a trade…. knowing just one piece would put this team over the hump.

Oh and I just thought about something…. making the playoffs in the NHL does not have the WOW factor of other leagues. More than half the teams in the NHL make the playoffs… including middle of the road teams. So tell me, how many of those average teams make it deep in the playoffs or to the Cup finals?

Michael

February 5th, 2010
1:13 am

And grades of 7 and up are considered very good players. 8 and up Elite (top) prospects. So these two guys apparently are highly touted prospects, though maybe not quite at the Elite level. Better than anything Atlanta had before the trade though.

They just saved $100 million and still have an extra first round pick. When a player like Kovy, who is NOT an elite player (just an Elite scorer who gives up as many chances as he makes), turns down $100 million, you take what you can get and Waddell actually did well. By not signing Kovy, the franchise will NOT be finacially crippled for the next 10 years and signing two dozen journeymen to join Kovy on a 10 win, last place team (with a superstar crying “why can’t he get me better teammates?” , duh, because you make the entire teams cap yourself idiot). Now some of the younger, and less heralded studs can be signed early in their careers for long extensions. Better to have a half-dozen very good players than one elite scorer (who can’t play any defense) and 5 retreads surrounding him.

Michael

February 5th, 2010
1:15 am

Those complaining don’t have a clue about hockey. They just follow Schultz’s rant like a bunch of mindless lemmings (much like Schultz in the mindless way). I will give it to Schultz for stirring up the mob. That is part of what he is hired to do, stir it up. He doesn’t know anything about hockey either though, so take his “journalism” with a grain of salt.

Michael

February 5th, 2010
1:18 am

Oh, and overall I think Waddell has done a horrible job (over the past decade plus), but this trade was not one of his big goofs.

Want My Floor Seats?

February 5th, 2010
1:39 am

When is someone going to stand up and say, “What we REALLY need is a top pf the line Goalie?” OK…I’ll do it. I was at the Jan 9th debacle at Philips. The Caps had either 3 goals on their first 7 shots or 4 goals on their first 9 shots (maybe both….tried to forget about it). It ended 8-1.

No Kovy can save a team that can’t protect the goal every time they go out on the ice. We have 3 mediocre goalies who may or may not be on their game any particular night. THAT’S a problem that has to be solved for this team to move forward and compete with the elite.

John

February 5th, 2010
1:43 am

Don Waddell absolutely must be FIRED! Good lord, how is this man still in a job?

AtlantaFan

February 5th, 2010
1:50 am

Get the Thrashers out of town, they give Atlanta a bad name. I tried to become a Hockey fan and a Thrashers fan when they came to town, but I have forever been soiled on Hockey and can’t stand the rudderless Thrashers. Take the the team to some people who care enough about the sport that they wouln’t mind how bad they are.

KQuark

February 5th, 2010
1:54 am

I feel bad for the players most. I really liked the team this year with so many character guys and a mature Kovy. Antropov came her because FWadd said he wold resign Kovy. If FWadd had signed him before the season or early in the season when he should have it would be a different story for sure.

When I think of the talent the Thrashers have let slip away I get sick in the stomach Brunett, Savard, Heatley, Hossa, Coburn etc… Sure they were all necessary moves at the time but FWadd should have never let it get to that point.

Oduya has 4 points 4 points in 40 games. Bergfors is not close to a proven commodity. The Jr. league kid is suspended for the rest of the year because he’s a thug.

And when the hell is Anderson going to develop the talent we have Bogo AND Little regressed this year and Kaine is fading fast.

I knew NJ had nothing to trade so when I heard we traded to them I knew the deal would stink.

KQuark

February 5th, 2010
1:57 am

I can’t believe people are posting sorry arse scouting reports to say this was a good trade. Kovy was a top 10 player period and we got nothing like that in return.

KQuark

February 5th, 2010
2:00 am

The Devils are now assured a Stanley Cup.

The Thrashers are now assured to move out of Atlanta.

Thanks FWadd.

peter gillis

February 5th, 2010
2:02 am

Kovy was my 6 year old son’s favorite player, no reason to go to any more games now. The trade was an indication of the Thrashers giving up on the season.

Tim

February 5th, 2010
2:11 am

“The sky is falling, The sky is falling!”

I guarantee you that nobody who knows a damn thing about hockey is sad to see Kovalchuk leave. Hockey is a team sport with which Kovy is essentially unfamiliar.

I’ll buy being angry about what the rest of the NHL are saying and will continue to say about the owners and the fans… half fair and half unfair.

Seriously, The Thrashers have a very good chance of being better. Imagine how free the team feels now, free to play hockey and not worry about force-feeding their one-trick-pony.

I like Scott Burnside’s take

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=4888710

PS. To all you Devil fans… good luck! He may just play up to his potential. It’s too bad that for him it takes more than the love for the fans, his teammates and those blessed paychecks to inspire him. He’s yours now!

ben

February 5th, 2010
2:16 am

Imho, this team has turned a page. But honest, I couldn’t say what that’ll be long term

Heath

February 5th, 2010
2:39 am

I miss the Atlanta Knights. THEY knew how to win.

Mike Milbury

February 5th, 2010
2:46 am

I think this is an extremely rational deal for the Atlanta Thrashers. Bravo to Don Waddell. By the way, if you don’t know who I am, go look up dumb GMs on wikipedia and you’ll see a photo of me and Don together. I think Don should sign all his new players to 30-year, $200 million contracts and sign them up longterm now.

Patrick Stefan

February 5th, 2010
2:59 am

Ya, I am still available if Mr. Waddell wants me ya.. Ya I am good player ya. I from Sveden, ya. First pick overall of Trasher franchise ya. Mr. Schultz, please write am available ya…

Devilsfan80

February 5th, 2010
3:03 am

I know you Thrasher fans are upset and have every right to be after losing an elite star like Kovalchuk. However, you guys got a better deal than that Hossa trade. Oduya has struggled this year with us but that had more to do with him being injured earlier in the season and the injury to Paul Martin who he had good chemistry with. Bergie has a lot of potential and could be a 25-30 goal scorer. He seems to play better with a good play-maker and is looking like a powerplay specialist. He seems to be in a little slump at the moment but I think it had more to do with him being juggled around by Lemaire. Cormier we were very high on even after his elbow incident. Don’t judge him by that and just look at his potential. He was a captain for the Canadian Junior Olympic team and he plays very physical. Could be a good second or third line center. As for Kovy….I’m not sure what’s going to happen, but as long as he provides scoring he should help out the Devils greatly.

John

February 5th, 2010
3:06 am

Wow…it certainly is nice to see 4 pages of comments on a hockey blog here. It’d be nice if half the posters could define “icing” and “breakout.”

Couple observations: Waddell has underachieved. There’s no doubt about that. They just showed a stat on sportscenter of the top 4 goal scorers since 2001. It’s Kovalchuk, Iginla, Heatley, and Hossa.
3 former Thrashers…ouch. Savard is kicking butt up in Beantown and Coburn would look awful nice in Anderson’s system of puck moving defensemen.

That being said, he hasn’t been absolutley awful like everyone has said. He may not be so great with the hotshots, but he has a knack for picking up the guys that stick with the team and grind it out. Slater (while not a first rounder, has been invaluable on faceoffs and finishing the penalty kill with some energy), Peverly, Hedberg, he stole Savard from Calgary…Kubina and Antropov have been great. And everyone laughed when he invited Max Afinegenov to camp and now Max’s career has taken off again. Plus Kane and Bogosian are working out just fine. And who cares if Daulton Levilee is still playing in college. Folks, this isn’t football. Kids get drafted at 18 and play in college or juniors for 4 years AFTER being drafted before jumping to the pros, and even then, it’s usually at rhe minor league level. The fact that Kane and Bogosian are contributing at the NHL level is amazing.

Keeping Kovy for what he wanted would have been stupid. Even if Kovy had taken the offer Waddell gave him, that’s still a lot of eggs in one basket. Anyone who has a basic knowledge of a budget should be able to see that. Kovy sayin he wanted to stay here was obviously a load of crap.

And I’m not sure who’s been watching (and by reading some comments, not everyone on here has been), but we’re 1 win out of a playoff spot. We just lost 2 1 goal games that would, had we won them, would have us in 5th or 6th or something. The 100 million dollar man didn’t score a goal in. either game, but an Olympic defenseman in either of those games would have been nice…news flash, we just got one.

Were right in the thick of things. We won without kovy earlier in the year. So, if you get a chance, come check out a Thrashers game. It may not be as spellbinding as Parkview vs Chattahoochee but it’s a lot of fun and there’s plenty of room on the bandwagon.

John

February 5th, 2010
3:28 am

And “Kaine” is fading fast? He shoulda had the tying goal in Nashville (he had one called back, in case you weren’t watching, which no one can really blame you for, cause it wasn’t on TV) and he had 2 assists against Philly where he launched Chris Prongers jockstrap wayyy up in the rafters. Twice. That line has been the most consistent of late.

I’m telling you guys, watch a game or two. This strange Canadian import of a sport is actually pretty fun. And this Atlanta team, when clicking on all cylinders, is pretty darn good.

J.C. Thompson

February 5th, 2010
3:42 am

Oh yea Jeff, Kovy was a plus player how many years? Kovy played great defense and showed great leadership didn’t he? All the ignorant fans do not surprise me, but I can honestly see why the ajc is where it is today. Kovy was never a player you build around, and he is certainly not worth any more than Rick Nash got in Columbus at 8.3 million. This team has a chance to build a true identity with all of these young players. Kovy was the Dion Sanders of the Thrashers. The prospect is hardly nothing, he was only the captain of the Canadian Junior hockey team. DW is not a great GM, but you can’t slam him for not retaining players who never wanted to be here in the first place. Great teams are built from the draft up. Until now this team has never gone in that direction. I cannot understand why people were so obsessed with Kovalchuk. He had a great wrister from the left circle and a great point slap shot, thats IT.

Howie Meekah

February 5th, 2010
4:09 am

I don’t see the Thrashers staying in Atlanta much longer. Wadell and Atlanta Spirit have killed hockey in this town. How the hell has Wadell lasted this long? Jim Balsillie and Hamilton will get what’s left of the Thrashers.WTF?

Rutrow

February 5th, 2010
4:15 am

Just a little perspective from a Devils fan on the players Atlanta acquired. First off, many outlets are portraying Oduya as the key chip in the trade. In my opinion it’s Bergfors. I see the players involved like this:

Bergfors – Very nice skills overall. Very good stickhandler, can carry the puck a bit. Pretty good along the boards at times, but can also get pushed off the puck and plastered quite a bit. Still needs to adjust to strength of NHL players and speed of the game. Good, not great skater, pretty quick, not overly fast. Pretty reliable defensively and can play a creative offensive game. Decent forechecker. Seems to display a good attitude, although he’s very quiet and reserved and that may come off as a little indifferent or lazy. Has a decent array of shots. Probably a bit smaller than he is listed. Overall, should be a solid 20-30 goal second line winger for quite a while.

Oduya – Quite a good skater in terms of speed, had a tendency to trip over his own feet while skating backwards in his first few seasons, but seems to be over that. Good puck skills, can carry the puck, pretty good low, hard shot. Had a reputation as a very tough player in Sweden, but at 5-11 195ish, doesn’t play that way in the NHL. Certainly not a soft player. Shows the ability to go back and get the puck on dump ins and occasionally very good puck carrying ability. His biggest negatives are probably vision and hockey sense. Technically, he has the skills to probably be a #2, 40 point type defenseman. he doesn’t see or think the game well enough to get to that level however. Playing with Paul Martin last season made him look better than he actually is. On a good team, you’d want him to be your #4 defenseman. Makes about $1M per season more than he should.

Cormier – Tough, physical, responsible defensively, strong on faceoffs. Good character guy…until the past month or so, showed no signs of being a dirty player, although he’s certainly always been an aggressive hitter. Skates well, but he’s really a meat and potatoes player. His offense is pretty much limited to a heavy shot. Doesn’t handle the puck well or think the game very well offensively at all. He’ll be an excellent forechecker, PK guy, physical depth forward, but I don’t see him ever being more than a 3rd liner and he may only wind up as a 4th liner.

Just Wondering

February 5th, 2010
4:16 am

Man, did the Thrashers ever get ripped off on this one. You would have thought the trade deadline was Friday at 4pm.

Make no mistake, this wasn’t about money. Kovy didn’t want to play here, despite what he may have been saying.
He wants to play on a team that has a shot at the Cup every year. He knows that the Thrashers will always be at best a team that is going to struggle to get the 8th playoff spot.

Also, do you really think he wants to play about half his home games before about 8,000 fans. The atmosphere down there is awful.

Kovy got out of town first. The rest of the team will follow in a year or two.

Thanks for coming fans, and we will see you in Kansas City. GO SCOUTS!!!

W.Y.

February 5th, 2010
4:45 am

Would you guys still buy tickets if Cormier elbowed Waddell in the head before each game? :)

kevin

February 5th, 2010
4:52 am

well don waddell on his now 5 year plan plus 10years now….why was the coach former colorado coach let go did he tell waddell we need these stay n told waddell u ass— .and waddell fired him plus gee pittsburgh won stanley cup with half former players from atlanta to…..as for NJ devils they there fans could say we play in a sewer city in atlanta which we do) devils have 3 stanley cups please no rip a team with owners n GM and a coach who wins! if people upset bring signs n wave at waddell Fire don waddell now at arena….remember to if we move we will lose are farm team in gwinnett they move also….so we lose 2 teams waddell came from detroit who are laughin when they not fight keep u knew they were glad see go they to won 4 stanley cups after Don(oops i a jerk) waddell left owner said Suckers to Us!

jerry

February 5th, 2010
5:00 am

Jeff acts like they just traded away the Stanley Cup. Hell, they were losers with him and if they are losers without him, no big deal. And since Philips was usually only half full, just how much star power did he have.

Topp Dogg

February 5th, 2010
5:18 am

When Dumbo Don is gone so will be the Thrashers in Atlanta,a sad day indeed for our sports teams.

Topp Dogg

February 5th, 2010
5:23 am

Kevin, go to school and learn how to read and write WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

native

February 5th, 2010
5:39 am

simple Wadell has to go. if not goodbye hockey in Atlanta.

thethird

February 5th, 2010
6:02 am

if we hurry, we can probably get damian rhodes back in a uni

kevin

February 5th, 2010
6:12 am

Oh topp dogg if i need go school be to school idiots like u what the matter were me words to dam good about waddell sorry u ganster style no work on AJC….if u hate banned me fool

kevin

February 5th, 2010
6:16 am

I bet topp dogg supported Vick usein dogs for fights to and as for waddell he had a 10 year plan +5 as always NJ has won 3 stanley cups what we done…detroit 4 since waddell left them (they laughin at us now) so i said people in NJ will think why thrashers play in a sewer of a downtown also so fair in love n war n obama has change comin in 2012 when he is gone….

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Ron

February 5th, 2010
6:33 am

Yea, it looks to me like another Flames story. The Thrashers will not be Atlanta much longer.

Mike

February 5th, 2010
6:34 am

Good trade!! The only mistake DW did in this whole thing was offering Ilya a $101 million contract over 12 years in the first place……….which Ilya luckily didn’t accept. The hockey-fan-base in Atlanta…..THAT’s what sucks!

oldfart

February 5th, 2010
6:38 am

I don’t blame Kovy. I wouldn’t want to play here either, considering the 5, 10, 15 year plan appears to be a perpetually mediocre product. Even though this trade is just a playoff rental we should have tried to get some help for this years playoffs. Hell at the time of the trade they were only 1 point out of the playoffs. Long term doesn’t cut it if you don’t survive through the short term. Waddell has to go if for no other reason to convince the remaining fans that ownership cares. We know for certain at this point what he brings to the table.

Tech Tony

February 5th, 2010
6:55 am

Fitting that the ownership is the Atlanta Spirit. They’re succeeding in making Philips Arena a ghost town for the NHL.

mr. mike

February 5th, 2010
7:04 am

Jeff; once more; thanks for your reporting during this fiasco. In a town where no sports person(electronic or written media) seems to give a crap about anything but the dawgs(whatever); you’ve been a Godsend.
An absolutely horrible trade & the death knell for the franchise. A few weeks ago; we were talking maybe Jeff Carter, Claude Giroux & Ryan Parent(Flyers); now a rookie with 13 goals/a no-name basic defenseman & a nutcase rookie?
Goodbye, Thrashers; it’s been a lot of fun for me & my family. Maybe on a business trip sometime; we’ll catch you in Winnipeg/Kansas City/Portland, etc….

Steve

February 5th, 2010
7:10 am

Sad day in Atlanta just hope The Atlanta Spirits will sell team and new ownership will let go Don Waddell. I just feel the Thrashers will be gone in two years.

Hacker_Dawg

February 5th, 2010
7:14 am

Kovy an “elite player”? LMAO

JS where do you get this stuff? Has he collected points on bad teams? Yeah. That hardly makes one an elite player. Elite players in sports like hockey and basketball (and baseball in many cases) play offense AND defense. I distinctly remember an elite player named Michael Jordan being pretty good on BOTH ends of the court. Kovy should NEVER be described as such.

Tell us all this JS. IF Kovy had signed that RIDICULOUS multi-year deal that our idiot offered him would your article had been slanted to the “Thrashers overpaid for a one-dimensional player setting the franchise up to NEVER be competetive?”

I will give you this, under Wads they in-fact may never actually be competetive, regardless of this deal but you can bet every dollar you have that signing that player long-term at that % of cap space would have been the nail in the coffin for hockey in Atlanta. This, at least, keeps us on a ventilator a little bit longer.

Hacker_Dawg

February 5th, 2010
7:17 am

Holy smokes. LMAO…Jeff Carter for Kovy? I don’t care who was “talking” about that. NO WAY IN HECK would Filly trade Carter for Kovy – straight up. No way…Hell they wouldn’t do that if we offered them the entire Braves starting rotation as a kicker in the deal.

joe suggs

February 5th, 2010
7:22 am

Who cares ! The economy is in shambles.Young U.S. soldiers are dying in ratholes overseas and some thug hockey player turns down millions of dollars .How much do they pay fireman for going into burning buildings to save children ???

jtsweet

February 5th, 2010
7:23 am

i’m done with the thrashers. they get rid of any hope i have in this team and my favorite players. i’ll be a devils fan now. thanks idiot don.

Lee

February 5th, 2010
7:24 am

One word, six letters – STUPID!

J-man

February 5th, 2010
7:32 am

Lots of posts… quick look seems to have not covered this, but I apologize if I missed something… Cormier was suspended for the remainder of the season by the QMJHL. He could theoretically be called up to the Thrashers right now. They are under no obligation to respect the suspension, although I think they will. I believe DW’s quote was something like “We expect Cormier to challenge for a spot on the team next year”. Well “challenge” can mean anything, just like Jason Krog “challenged” for a spot in training camp. And Cormier is facing possible legal charges for his hit. If that happens, it might be kind of hard to make the Thrashers when he’s in jail. I’m just sayin’ …
Cormier is analogous to Riley Cote of the Flyers. So he’s unlikely to ever provide more than Boulton/Thornburn type offense. If fighting goons excite you, he’s your man for sure. He’s got a terrible attitude AND a complete lack of discipline as well – more win for us! Well, not really.

Bobby Orr

February 5th, 2010
7:36 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…..Fleeced AGAIN, good luck with those players….did I mention that I’m laughing my @$$ off, I’m not even a New Jersey fan but they sure know their hockey….The only thing I don’t understand is why he didn’t ship out Kane and Bogo with him for even more nobodies

Yunel Asscobar

February 5th, 2010
7:39 am

Waddell looks absolutely brilliant compared to Wren. Had this been Wren’s trade, the incoming players would have all been 38yrs+, coming off season-ending injuries, and would then be asked to play out of position once they joined the team. Somebody needs to write the “GM for Dummies” book because Lord knows, we’ve got the guys in ATL who should be reading it.

Hacker_Dawg

February 5th, 2010
7:41 am

Hey DevilsFan80 – I got a pretty good idea of what is going to happen. There will be some initial excitement. He’ll play hard, get a point or two and then, some Tuesday night or so, you’ll catch him doing figure eights while your defense scrambles against an odd man rush. This will come just after he has rushed down the left side, come to a quick stop because he has no backhand or power move, and he’ll make an ill-advised cross ice pass that will be picked off. Your coach, who is defense minded, will grow angry at this. He will let it slide a game or two but at some point, in a tight game, he’ll begin shortening his shifts or cut his overall playing time. Kovy will get pissed and pretty much decide then that he won’t sign with you either.

Then it is summer and we ALL get to watch as NOBODY comes close to paying (at least in the US) Kovy the money he turned down here.

I bet that is pretty close to how this plays out, imo.

bugman

February 5th, 2010
7:54 am

Always Hoping, you are what is referred to as a “Blind Homer”.

You are a complete idiot. Relocate to NJ please.

NYtransplant

February 5th, 2010
7:55 am

I have had season tickets from day one. I have watched the owners and Waddell turn this team in the equivalent of the Clippers. I told my Thrashers rep to stop calling me. I am done. Imagine the gall of Waddell in his statement saying they had not won while Kovy was here! Duh! Could that be because we have brain dead under capitalized owners and the most incompetent GM in sports. I guess it is a new 10 year plan. I hope the new kid gets out of the penalty box every now and then. I am finished

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

February 5th, 2010
7:57 am

Waddell still has a job because there is no one to fire him. Is there not anyone who can rescue us.

Hawkhound

February 5th, 2010
8:00 am

This trade makes absolutely no sense; however, as far as iso Joe of the fade away jumper with a hand in his face and 1 second on the shot clock goes, I think the Hawks would be a better team with Crawford at the two and whatever name free agent can be brought in with the differences in their salaries

bad brad

February 5th, 2010
8:02 am

A friend gave me tickets to Tuesday night’s game with Tampa. I’m not a die-hard hockey fan, but have been occasionally since the Flames first came. Here is what I noticed:

The game, or at least Tuesday’s, has become boring. Tampa scored on 2 of their first 3 shots, even though the Thrashers appeared to be “outskating” them. I say that because nobody checks anymore. I got tired or watching players pull up rather than smack somebody into the boards; and that goes for both teams.

Hockey seems to have developed into a speed and finesse thing and frankly it is boring. The face value of the tickets from my friend was $98 each. That’s why the crowds are down…they have priced themselves out of the range of most folks and are doing so with a boring product.

Chris

February 5th, 2010
8:04 am

Time for the Thanshers to leave town – maybe some other city would like to experience semi-pro hockey for a while…

ralph

February 5th, 2010
8:05 am

look for the skate rental price at the ice forum to increase when d-wad takes over as manager

Original Hockey fan

February 5th, 2010
8:05 am

I`ve been watching illya x the past few games…he left weeks ago.What`s a small money pit market supposed to do?After all this is hockey in the deep south!Look at how much $$ The Carolina Computer guy has lost!Look at Tennesse!Arizona!TampaBay!Florida!These southern teams continue to bleed money,and former yankees or mid westrnerners are NOT enough to come and see their former towns` teams.If you can, you have to start with younger,hungrier players with an exiting type of game,,,and hoping tha some of those youngsters will become stars,while staying put in these southern teams,maybe that`s a solution,MAYBE! Hey,a lot of Canadian teams are having similar problems[Edmonton,Calgary ,etcc]The league needs less,stronger,more competitive teams and less TB,Fla,Tenn.and yes Atlanta{flames o r thrashers].Big markets; big money show.C`est la vie!Can`t change this flow,cannot change the local culture or its hunger for specific sports[football,college or pro],college basketball.How`s the basketball in Emonton?see what i mean?

Original Hockey fan

February 5th, 2010
8:05 am

I`ve been watching illya x the past few games…he left weeks ago.What`s a small money pit market supposed to do?After all this is hockey in the deep south!Look at how much $$ The Carolina Computer guy has lost!Look at Tennesse!Arizona!TampaBay!Florida!These southern teams continue to bleed money,and former yankees or mid westrnerners are NOT enough to come and see their former towns` teams.If you can, you have to start with younger,hungrier players with an exiting type of game,,,and hoping tha some of those youngsters will become stars,while staying put in these southern teams,maybe that`s a solution,MAYBE! Hey,a lot of Canadian teams are having similar problems[Edmonton,Calgary ,etcc]The league needs less,stronger,more competitive teams and less TB,Fla,Tenn.and yes Atlanta{flames o r thrashers].Big markets; big money show.C`est la vie!Can`t change this flow,cannot change the local culture or its hunger for specific sports[football,college or pro],college basketball.How`s the basketball in Emonton?see what i mean?

Will

February 5th, 2010
8:06 am

The Thrashers organization has become of mirror of the Pirate organization in MLB. It is a de facto minor league program that provides star talent to the NHL.

If a good player is picked up while giving away better players, the organization cannot/will not spend to retain the pickup. If a prospect turns into a good NHL player, the organization will not/cannot pay to keep him and “farms” him out to true NHL organizations for less expensive (read prospects) players.

It is so depressing to think would might have been if we have an engaged, vibrant and committed ownership for this organization.

The very fact that this organization has allowed a general manager to remain in place who has never provided a roster to head coaches that is competitive within the NHL says all you need to know about the state of hockey ownership in Atlanta.

JSS

February 5th, 2010
8:12 am

Patrick Stafan…
Always thought you were a proud Czech?

The Truth

February 5th, 2010
8:13 am

Kovalchuk trade and Waddell’s futility aside, I, for one, will not renew my season tickets along with 20 others in my group until the Spirit Group decides to either sell this franchise to someone local to give it a real fighting chance or else makes the commitment to grow the team and market it solidly around town. It all starts at the top and they are so smitten with basketball and totally ignore the hockey base.

In essence, until the effort to show commitment is shown, I, as much as I hate it, am through.

Don Waddell vs. Atlanta

February 5th, 2010
8:20 am

Don, you want us to call Two Men & A Truck or has your secretary already taken care of that?

Its sad how out of touch you are. This just in, WE HATE YOU!

Matt

February 5th, 2010
8:25 am

Nearly 375 comments in just this blog on this subject and people say there aren’t hockey fans in Atlanta?? What a load of bull. There are plently of fans just dying for the team to give them what they deserve, a team with a chance to win every night, make the playoffe and advance in the playoffs. Have we had that in the last 10 years, the 4-0 sweep by NYR not withstanding?

And another thing, for those of you defending Waddell and saying those of us who criticize him don’t know hockey, I’d be MORE than happy to compare my knowledge of hockey to yours.

pk

February 5th, 2010
8:25 am

Over this season I have watched Kovy on each shift. He would rather hang out at the blue line instead of back checking. And when he gets the puck, if he’s not fumbling it, he’s skating figure eights without a clue how to be a complete player. And he turns down $100mil? Blame goes both ways. Waddell should have done something last year, not waiting for the last minute.
I’m finished giving ASG my money.

TheAntiMe

February 5th, 2010
8:45 am

“This isn’t a knock on Kovy, but Kovy’s been here eight years and we still haven’t won a playoff game.” Don Waddell

Well, you know, Mr. General Manager, maybe Kovy wasn’t aware that – in addition to being the franchise player – he was also supposed to do your job for you and build a team that could at least make it to the playoffs more than once a century.

By the way, Mr. Waddell, would you kindly explain to this Thrashers fan, just what it is that you do as an NHL General Manager?

Dan

February 5th, 2010
8:47 am

definitely not much of a deal. why would you want to pick up cormier anyway. the guy pulled one of the biggest cheap shots of all time and almost killed a guy. that’s the kind of player you trade your top star for?

Steve Brown

February 5th, 2010
8:55 am

As I predicted a long time ago. Kovy new everything a year ago that he knows now. That’s when Waddell should have begun trade talks. Kovy’s trade value dropped every day he waited to pull the trigger. $101 million too little and no playoff wins to show-there was no other choice. This is a team game and we fans need to suck it up and support our guys. This is about winning not about individual stats. Although I’m depressed and I often watched to see if Kovy would score I will find new reasons to watch. Go Thrashers.

JR

February 5th, 2010
8:55 am

ATLANTA — At the risk of sounding all Marc Antony, I do not come here to bury the Atlanta Thrashers, but to praise them. Or, at the very least, suggest to them this trade of star player Ilya Kovalchuk does not necessarily have to be an ending, but something else entirely.

Of course, that’s not how it will look to most people.

Kovalchuk, the face of the franchise and the team’s most prolific scorer, was dealt to the New Jersey Devils on Thursday night for rookie forward Niclas Bergfors, defenseman Johnny Oduya, junior player Patrice Cormier and a first-round draft pick. Defenseman Anssi Salmela returns to New Jersey in the deal with Kovalchuk.

It was, Atlanta GM Don Waddell acknowledged, an emotional day. Waddell had raised Kovalchuk since he was a pup after the Thrashers made the flashy Russian the first overall pick back in 2001.

Thursday’s trade marked not just the departure of a longtime player, but also the departure of yet another seminal figure in the team’s short history.

We watched former Columbus Blue Jackets GM Doug MacLean practically leap out of his chair on a Canadian hockey broadcast denouncing the trade as a disaster. Not that MacLean’s track record suggests he should be calling out Waddell or anyone else for their handling of talent. But we digress.

The point is, many people will hold up the list of names involved in this deal and roll their eyes.

The new Thrashers don’t add up to Kovalchuk, no matter how much you turn things around and squint your eyes and think warm, fuzzy thoughts. But maybe that’s not such a bad thing.

Here are some stark realities about the state of this team, even when Kovalchuk was on board:

- The Atlanta Thrashers have never won a playoff game. Not one.

- They’ve played in exactly one playoff series. One.

- The fans have stayed away in droves even with the exciting Kovalchuk on the ice for the past eight seasons.

“We’re struggling with our attendance as it is,” Waddell said late Thursday night. “It doesn’t matter who is on our roster. The only way we’re going to attract fans is by winning games.”

And so, there it is.

Dany Heatley, Kovalchuk’s translator and running mate in those early days of the franchise, fled town.

Marian Hossa came in Heatley’s stead and left as quickly as was humanly possible.

Now, Kovalchuk is gone.

Many will suggest this trade is the final nail in the coffin for this franchise. And that may well be true, but it doesn’t have to be.

The men who will continue to pull on skates in that locker room have a chance to do something remarkable in Kovalchuk’s absence: they have a chance to prove him wrong. They have a chance to prove wrong everyone else who thinks this team will roll over and believes the widely held notion that this is a lousy place for a hockey team. Or rather this is a lousy hockey team in a lousy place. They have a chance to prove people wrong by being better without Kovalchuk than they were with him.

When the team left for Washington on Thursday afternoon, they were one point out of the playoffs in the Eastern Conference. Kovalchuk, for the record, had scored just once in his past six games, his final six games as a Thrasher.

Beyond that, everything surrounding this team was shot through the prism of how it affected Kovalchuk. He was consulted on player personnel issues and lobbied to have Nik Antropov signed. He was made captain when skeptics wondered if it was a ploy to try and encourage him to remain with the team long-term.

But for all Kovalchuk’s insistence he wanted to stay in Atlanta, his contract demands suggested otherwise. Fair enough. He is fully within his rights to ask for whatever he wants. In the end, though, demanding near the maximum allowed under the salary cap suggested he never really wanted to be here and made it easy for the team to ship him out.

So, what will the Thrashers left behind write on the blank page they’ve been presented?

The answer lies with the new arrivals, but also with players like Bryan Little and Evander Kane and Ron Hainsey and Zach Bogosian. Can they write a story that’s never been written for this team, a story of success? A story of a team being more than the sum of its parts, more than one dynamic figure and some other guys? Will ownership help them write that story?

Waddell said Thursday night he figures to be a buyer in the trade market between now and the March 3 trade deadline. He has money now that Kovalchuk and his $6.4 million cap hit are gone. Here’s hoping those weren’t just words, but a commitment ownership has given Waddell to take this team forward and not just let it shrivel on the vine, which is what most people think will happen.

“I don’t think this sets us back at all,” Waddell said.

It’s the kind of thing GMs say when they’ve suffered an egregious setback, but Waddell has a chance to give meaning to those words.

What kind of statement would it make to this battered market if the Thrashers didn’t just fade away but rallied and made the playoffs? Would fans rally behind this team in a way they’ve never rallied around them in the past?

I wonder if we’ll find out.

On Friday night, the Atlanta Thrashers, minus their former captain and best-ever player, will visit the NHL’s hottest team in Washington. It looks like as good a place as any to start and find out just what remains of this hockey team in Atlanta.

Scott Burnside covers the NHL for ESPN.com.

DWW

February 5th, 2010
8:57 am

Atlanta is a city that could support a really good minor league hockey team. Don seems to be the right guy in the right seat to make that happen – give him some credit for that. All we need now is to change leagues and lower the ticket prices. (We’ve always had the stupid and overly loud heavy metal music and kitchy entertainment – the most ridiculous mascot in the NHL who would fit in nicely in the minors.)

Maybe we could even re-name our new minor league team …… how about Knights??

Seriously – what would the real hockey fans rather have here in Atlanta. A decent high-level minor league team with a chance of winning and ticket prices lots of people can afford …… or a low quality, over-priced NHL team that is boring to watch with really awful management?

Brass Bonanza

February 5th, 2010
8:59 am

It’s time for the NHL’s Southern Fried Hockey experiment to end. Send the Thrash to Hartford and resurrect the once almost mighty Whalers. While the Whale’s hockey performance was for the most part substandard they did have the best uniform in all of sports. http://www.icejerseys.com/vintage_hartford_whalers.php?s_kwcid=hartford%20whalers%20jersey|4210379743&gclid=CKT538Ot258CFR8hnAodXEXOJA

PMC

February 5th, 2010
9:00 am

If you bought season tickets, I don’t think there is any reason not to go. You’re already invested voice your displeasure or go cheer the laundry. Giving up all those goals though is going to hurt the franchise. Ilya checked out early. He wasn’t staying here for that money. He’ll sign elsewhere for less. I get it, the guy is gone he was full of crap the entire time and he really just wanted out to go to a contender.

I guess the plan now is to play much better defense physically pound people and hope losing the Ego helps…. but when you look at the really good bonified teams…. they aren’t shipping off superstars because they can’t afford them. Edmonton went in the toilet after Gretzky left. Crosby signed for less so they could keep Malkin etc…. when Kovy is looking at his peers essentially (Ovy) I can’t really blame that number either.

Would you want to play for a franchise that shipped off every great player that you ever had a chance to play with? You wouldn’t want to work for that company either….becuause that company is run by people who do not care about success.

Blackhawk Fan in Atlanta

February 5th, 2010
9:00 am

I maybe I’m in the minority here, but I don’t see the doom and gloom that everyone else sees. I see opportunity. Kovy was probably gone come July 1 no matter what, so a trade had to be made. In hind sight it probably should have been done sooner. I do understand the concern with trading the face of Atlanta hockey, but I’m looking at this. With Kovy; Atlanta’a attendence is still down, they have played in only one playoff series, and won 0 playoff games. Atlanta was not a balanced team with him. Yeah he has 328 career goals but he is also a career -84 and only a +1 this season with 31 goals. That’s not exactly a two way player. This had to happen and I feel better with it since Atlanta got Rick Dudley as Associate GM from Chicago. Dudley helped scout what is now a Stanley Cup caliber team. And with Kovy’s 6.4 million cap hit gone Atlanta are buyers in free agency and can still make another move before the trade deadline. All this while they are still only a point out of a playoff spot.

EA

February 5th, 2010
9:00 am

Kovy will not stay in N.J. He wants to choose. He also is a fan of warm weather as he has stated many times. Hopefully he will decide to go west. It is time to move on and welcome the new guys while continuing to support the rest of the team.

randaroo

February 5th, 2010
9:04 am

“Put a fork in this franchise, they’re done”……………………….

Clay

February 5th, 2010
9:08 am

Jeff, so what exactly should Waddell have done differently? Jeez, if $101M can’t keep him here, he obviously didn’t want to be here for any price.

Lisa

February 5th, 2010
9:12 am

When will the owners finally get wise and fire the REAL PROBLEM – Don Waddell??
How many years is it now that he is into his “5 year plan”?

timthebrave

February 5th, 2010
9:17 am

Clay, “so what exactly should Waddell have done differently?”. He needed to find out at the beginning of the season if Ilya was interested in signing. If not he should have traded him at the beginning of the season so that he could have gotten real value…Also it is stupid to announce that you have to trade a player and how desperate you are to teams looking to trade….Our 2nd round and there first round pick will be about the same position…Our 2nd round will be about the 35th pick and their first round will be about a 30th pick…We also got a player suspended for the season and another that will be a free agent next year….So basically we traded our best player to ever come through here for a late 2nd round pick…Hooray!!!Great job….Atlanta has had 3 of the top 4 goal scorers since 2001 and NONE are still here…As far as hockey in Atlanta people will come if you put a solid product on the floor…You should have been here the last 2 months when we won the division. Put something worth watching and people will come….I just have to laugh to keep from crying

roterhals

February 5th, 2010
9:23 am

Waddell’s got some unbelievalbe stones, blaming Kovy for the (non)direction and mediocre play of the team. Are you kidding me? Waddell is the biggest joke around, one fluke playoff appearance (in which they totally embarassed themselves)in franchise history. Can’t blame people for not paying to see a substandard product while that clown’s running the show.

CowboyJim

February 5th, 2010
9:26 am

By the way his other great draft choice that has never panned out that goes by the name of Carry LetOneIn will be gone as well by the end of the Olympic Break. When does Waddell stop getting a pass. Nice guy, lousy GM. It’s over Johnny, it’s over

gc

February 5th, 2010
9:27 am

Waddell says it’s all about money. Cmon. You offered Kovy the world to stay and he *still* wouldn’t take it. Don’t you get it man.

Stephen Smith

February 5th, 2010
9:30 am

The only constant in these last 11 years of “hockey” is Dan Waddell. I honestly cannot believe he is still the GM. I’m a huge thrashers fan but Philips Areana looks emptier every season. This could be a hockey town if the Atlanta Spirit ever took the game seriously. They haven’t and this is what we have. How does Hamilton Thrashers sound?

Thrashy Thrashy

February 5th, 2010
9:30 am

The Thrashers couldn’t afford to pay this dude. We all know that. Waddell traded him quickly. Too quickly? We’ll see. All I know is that he will have the ability to make some moves going forward. Why not move Slava, too? Send him to the Western Conference.

Look, I’m frustrated like everyone else. I hate losing Hall of Fame-caliber scorers. It sucks. I also know that this team has never been built to win. That sucks. The fact that the same guy is responsible for the construction of every Thrasher team since the franchise came into existence is maddening. Nevertheless, there’s more young talent spread throughout the big club now than at any point in team history.

Gotta play some defense, though. Gotta have more discipline, though. That starts with the GM. Until Waddell goes (or some magical hockey gnome takes over his brain), we’re not likely to find out what it’s like to watch a solid hockey team take the ice on a regular basis.

Will

February 5th, 2010
9:38 am

New Jersey?, the New Jersey Devils?, are you kidding me?, what are they thinking?, and what did we get…oh jeez Marge…what a mess

Bob

February 5th, 2010
9:45 am

Nice to see the Spirit employees out trying to spin this cluster into some kind of a positive for the club.

The fact of the matter is that it never should have gotten to this point where Waddell had to take the middling return he got for a rental player.

The fact is that if Waddell was competent, he should have extended Ilya long ago, and when it was apparent that he just wanted out of here, you trade him last year, last summer, and get solid return for him, and build yourself a lineup for this year and move forward.

Instead, Waddell let Grossman lead him around by the nose all year until he backed himself into a corner and had to flinch and let Sweet Lou pick his pocket.

Waddell is the reason this club has gone nowhere and the Spirit is the reason we have no hope for change, as they won’t fire Waddell.

Nothing meaningful will change until meaningful changes are made and a real GM is brought in.

Here we go again

February 5th, 2010
9:47 am

Well they have done it again! I for one will not renew my season tickets in the future as long as Waddel is at the helm.

Want My Floor Seats?

February 5th, 2010
9:50 am

I can’t believe ANYONE — ANYONE — is claiming this team should’ve given ANY ONE PLAYER a 12-yr contract for $11.346 Million/yr!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?!??!!?! I don’t care if he is “the best player ever in a Thrashers uniform”. Because of KOVY’S completely unrealistic MONEY demands, he will now be fondly remembered as “the best player that ever WORE a Thrashers jersey!”

THERE WERE NO WINNERS in this train wreck. Kovy and the Devils MIGHT come out smelling like roses IF — and that’s a BIG IF — they take over and get The Cup. As far as I know, the Devils only “own” Kovy through the end of the season…..THAT’S IT!! Then they’re in a very SIMILAR situation that was just foisted upon this franchise by Kovy and Grossman, namely:

“How do we sign a crazy @ss Russian who already TURNED DOWN $101 MILLION because he believes he’s worth MORE?!?!?”

Maybe NJ can do it….Maybe they can’t. What Waddell got was infinitely BETTER than what we would’ve been left with at the end of this season —- Still no playoff berth and a crazy @ss Russian who WALKS AWAY FOR NOTHING and goes on the open market! Then everyone screams, “I can’t believe Waddell let Kovy WALK and got NOTHING IN RETURN for our star player!”

And for everyone (including Schultz) screaming, “Waddell should’ve dealt him LAST YEAR when he could’ve gotten MORE for him than this last minute thing!” Well, you’re the SAME FANS who would be screaming, “Why did Waddell get rid of Kovy with a YEAR LEFT on his contract and we have a legitimate shot at the playoffs next season?!?” See how that works?

When your star player becomes an UFA on July 1st and he WON’T NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH, you just aren’t left with a bunch of good options. THAT is the Reality Check! And sorry, but saying, “Give me a 12-yr contract at $11.346 Million/yr” INITIALLY, and then NEVER COMING DOWN is simply NOT “negotiations”…..It’s EXTORTION.

And for everyone saying, “Why would you want a guy like Cormier?”….He’s the guy Lou DIDN’T WANT TO GIVE UP!

So just HOW MANY NHL franchises could even come close to AFFORDING a single player who just turned down $101 Million?!?! EXACTLY…I can’t even believe THIS franchise offered it — It truly would’ve ended the Thrashers sooner rather than later! Understand just how difficult — practically IMPOSSIBLE — it is to deal a player as a “rental” for less than 1/2 a season who just rejected $101 Million!!

NOBODY wants to take a chance on trying to re-sign a MORON that just rejected $101 Million to play freakin Ice Hockey!!! And that’s exactly WHY Waddell pulled a friggin rabbit out of the hat THIS TIME when the hat was also filled with scorpions and snakes!

He won’t get a lot of credit for it — simply because Kovy is G-O-N-E — but the fact he got ANYTHING for an asset that would be WORTHLESS by summer is quite AMAZING…..In fact, once Kovy rejected $101 Million, he was no longer an asset, but he instantly became a LIABILITY!

WHO THE FRICK TURNS DOWN $101 MILLION TO PLAY HOCKEY?!?! Answer: The ONE GUY you definitely DON’T want on your hockey team! Get it?

I’ve said it before, but if you guys sit around and pout about it like a bunch of 5-yr olds instead of getting behind our NHL franchise that really could use a shoulder to cry on right now — Then YOU’LL BE SORRY! It’s EASY to kill off an NHL franchise in the South and keep being known as “a town without real sports fans.” The real challenge is KEEPING an NHL franchise in the South….

The Tampa Bay Lightning WILL BE SOLD TODAY.

The Dallas Stars were just “PUT UP FOR AUCTION” yesterday.

If you really WANT the Thrashers and NHL Hockey to leave, it’s probably not that far off from happening. We’re GOING TO PHILIPS SAT NIGHT to see the post-Kovy team hopefully compete and kick some Florida Panther @ss!! It will be an interesting night to say the least.

So start acting like adults and support YOUR NHL franchise when it needs us most…..That’s what makes a town stand out as one WITH TRUE SPORTS FANS! ;)

FYI, once I told my boys (6, 8 & 8 — and all 3 with Kovy jerseys) that he was traded to NJ last night, they said:

“We’re still going to watch the Thrashers play the Panthers Saturday night aren’t we Dad?”

Funny how they’re more GENUINE Thrashers Fans than so many of you ADULTS posting here, huh?

KovyPleaseStay

February 5th, 2010
9:50 am

What does it say about Atlanta’s ownership that a guy – any guy – would turn down $101 million dollars to play here? If Kovy wants to win, he needs to go elsewhere. I see no reason for him to accept any offer -no matter how huge- if it means he’ll waste the prime of his career on a middling team which will never contend for the Cup while it’s run by this group of incompetent owners.

Praveen

February 5th, 2010
9:55 am

I agree. this is the best deal Waddell could have gotten last night. But was it the best time to deal Kovy? It was clear Kovy wasn’t going to sign with Atlanta. I am pretty sure Kovy will sign with another team for less than what he asked Atlanta for. Not that diffferent from the Hossa situation.

Also, I do think Kovy will play better defense in NJ because he will be forced to. Just because he got away with poor defense in Atlanta doesn’t mean he is not capable.

You do not need to trade a player like Kovy to get the kind of players Thrashers get in return. Pittsburgh and similar organizations have been getting such players as the ones NJ gave up in this trade at reasonable prices. Pittsburgh got Guerin for a measly 3rd rounder which wasn’t even guaranteed at the time of the trade. Pittsburgh got Fedotenko for a reasonable price. These are second line level players. You have a guy like Kovy, you want to get at least one top prospect in return. The Hossa trade, the average player you got back was worse than the average player NJ gave up for Kovy.

For a good portion of the decade, both Pittsburgh and Atlanta had a lot of high picks. But when Craig Patrick who oversaw some of those gimme draft picks like Crosby and Malkin was unable to take the team to the next level(and his work until he was fired was better than Waddell’s), Pittsburgh fired him instead of being content that Patrick drafted some no brainers like Crosby and Malkin., Shero made the steps that took the team to the next level. Shero has been brilliant at some pickups that did not cost the team the cap. He has been able to mix in clutch playing role players with the stars. Until you get rid of Waddell, you will not get your version of Shero in Atlanta. When you get a good GM, then you will have your own version of Guerins trying to re-sign for a reasonable price and marquee players not trying to break the bank.

BTW, you want a really bad trade? When Pens traded a disgruntled Jagr, they got 3 players back in return and NOT ONE OF THEM PANNED OUT TO BE EVEN AS “GOOD” AS CHRISTIANSEN. That’s how awful it was.

Tom

February 5th, 2010
9:57 am

What did Waddell say! Giving Kovy the money would hurt the ability to sign future promising young players. That statement might have worked the first few years of rebuilding, but that Thrashers have not kepted anyone. They also get crap in return when they do trade a quality player. A team with no direction, crappy GM, obvious clueless ownership. I truly believe there is plenty of Hockey fans in Atlanta, but why waste their time and money watching the Thrashers. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. The ownership needs to show that they want to stay in Atlanta or go move the franchise. The Hockey fans in Altanta don’t deserve this mess. They traded any one that they could possiblity build around and they have not gotten anyone in return to even suggest they will be that person. I hope Waddell does not play the stock market because he probably buys high and sells low. Fire Waddell and give the fans a piece of hope!

Fillin' up @ Juniors

February 5th, 2010
10:06 am

We had Hossa and Kovy…now we have. No One. Screw us, I am still going to go to thrashers games cause I love hockey, but I am going to go to less. More Hawks, Braves, Falcons less thrashers…Winning formula ownership? Only if your the government does that formula workout.

[...] While the trade of Ilya Kovalchuk did not represent a departure for the Thrashers from past dealings with their impending unrestricted free agents, Thursday’s deal is different in one way: It’s earlier in the season than previous trades and the team is still in the playoff race. [...]

A$G

February 5th, 2010
10:10 am

HEY FOLKS, COME ON DOWN AND GIVE U$ YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.
Were else can you get to see a minor league team take on a real NHL team.

YOU GIVE U$ YOUR MONEY AND WE GIVE YOU A PILE OF $HIT.

As long as you keep giving u$ your money we will keep giving you the $hit.

10 years and counting.

rich mckay

February 5th, 2010
10:14 am

Danny Heatley- the list goes on and on and on…until the Thrashers are gone as well

Hockeyman3944

February 5th, 2010
10:15 am

[...] While the trade of Ilya Kovalchuk did not represent a departure for the Thrashers from past dealings with their impending unrestricted free agents, Thursday’s deal is different in one way: It’s earlier in the season than previous trades and the team is still in the playoff race. [...]

A$G

February 5th, 2010
10:21 am

Listen to “Want My Floor Seats” and be a REAL thrashers fans. Throw away your Kovalchuk jersey come down on Saturday night and buy your Oduya and Bergfors jerseys. (don’t forget to buy them both).

Giving your money to owners that don’t care is not being a fan but it is being a fool.

Richard Dawson

February 5th, 2010
10:21 am

I love Kovy, but it’s too easy to slam Waddell here. All GM’s work within a budget. Does he have unlimited authority to pay the max to Kovy? I doubt it. $10mm/season for 7 seasons is pretty strong. If Kovy really wanted to play here forever, he could accept a half-million or a million less per season and not be the highest-paid player in the NHL, which I don’t think he deserves.

thrasherdawg

February 5th, 2010
10:22 am

Why is it that “Want MY FLoor Seats” is the only one who get’s it.

Kovy leaving will be like Vick leaving…for once we can have a team built around each other.

Actually, Kovy was offered 101 million for six years (not 12)because he only plays half the time.

You people don’t get it…he lied…get me some players (Antop & Max) which Waddell did, then he never neotiated in good faith, period! In my mind he’s not even a 6 million dollar a year player. He’s a “it’s all about me’ player. People please take your blinders off.

Richard Dawson

February 5th, 2010
10:22 am

Danny Heatley wanted out of ATL, not the other way around. Can’t blame that on Waddell. ATL (team and fans) did everything to help Heatley after his accident. He’s a nutjob IMO.

People Amaze Me

February 5th, 2010
10:22 am

Thank you ‘Up North’, ‘Fed Up’ and ‘Want My Floor Seats’! Glad you get it. What amazes me is people are OK with the fact this kid turned down $101 MILLION DOLLARS! No one, regardless of their profession deserves that kind of money. Kovy has been lying to the fans, the media, and the management for months. If he truly wanted to stay in Atlanta, he would have had his agent take any one of the deals he was offered. Bottom line is his ego is bigger than his talent and I hope to watch as he crashes and burns in the mecca called NEWARK. Culture shock will cause him to walk at the end of the season. For Don Waddell to get chastised as he is, is wrong. If any one knows Don personally, they know his heart has always been in the right place. You only get one side of the story, and its the media side. If walls could talk, you would know the many many sleepless nights, the hurt and the turmoil the owners, media and fans have caused him and his family. If you seriously think for one second Don doesn’t have this team’s best interests at heart, I hope you do keep your promise to leave and never come back because honestly, you aren’t wanted or needed. Don could have stayed in Detroit til Hell froze over, and if he had a crystal ball, probably would have if he had any indication the many hurdles he would have over the years with players idiotic behavior and management’s inability to do anything but argue among themselves (another ego situation). I commend him for sticking this out – he is not a quitter. Before you throw another verbal stone, I seriously suggest you dig, and dig deep until you find out all the details in every situation. You just might be shocked to find out you don’t know the whole truth. Don could have thrown so many under the bus so many times, but he is a business man that has a conscience. A rarity these days. For European players, its always all about the money. Kovy convinces his friend to come play in Atlanta and then walks away – from everyone. He purely wants bragging rights – he needs something over Ovechkin because he will never be him. It was always all about the money for him. Wonder what his excuse would have been to turn the money down had they called his bluff and gave him the max. As I said, you need both sides to every story.

Hockeyman3944

February 5th, 2010
10:28 am

Nice move Dummy..I spit out me coffee when I heard what we got for Kovy..2 puck bags, a guy that’s not playing and the first pick, (should be oh let’s see, the 25-29th pick overall). What the?!!!

Let’s see shall we, who Fraudell has traded, left out shuffled off etc. Granted some of these guys where nearing the end of the road, but many where not…and still play with great teams. You could have had a contenter Dummy..

Donald Audette
Peter Bondra
Andrew Brunette
Braydon Coburn…ouch that one hurt!
Ray Ferraro…ok he was serviceable
Dany Heatley..well, OK tough one there..
Marian Hossa..never forgive that guy though, he mailed it intoo many games
Brian Pothier
Marc Recchi
Marc Savard…THE dumbest move…ever!
Keith Tkachuk
More I’m sure..but look who we got in return!!
It’s no wonder Donny boy was named the WORST GM in the NHL.
When does the Spirit, er, ahh, well nevermind, they’re clueless.
So, what does this mean for the Atlanta hockey fan and the franchise? Na na na na, hey hey hey goodbye!
Thanks for sticking us with an idiot like Wads, for 8 years too long! I just about threw up this AM watching the NHL network to actually see him up there saying this was a great trade. Hey Berkfors, thanks for your 13 goals, Oduya..maybe, and Cormier? Sleep all day, get up for practice for your junior team and watch the game from the stands.
NOT ONE MORE DOLLAR WILL BE LIFTED FROM MY WALLET FOR THIS CLUSTERF***
There, I feel so much better, but I aint coming back…

A$G

February 5th, 2010
10:30 am

Listen to the smart people.
It’s the players that have been the problem.
Bunch of greedy bums. We are going to put together a team of team players and rebuild. $ign up for season tickets next year. We are really turning the corner now!!

Todd G

February 5th, 2010
10:34 am

Kudos to Jeff Schultz for consistently being the only member of Atlanta sports media to demand accountability out of the Thrashers brass. Kovalchuk did not leave for more money. He left to be with a winner. And once he gets a taste of it, he’ll never look back.

The Monkey

February 5th, 2010
10:44 am

Now all the expert hockey fans come out of the woodwork. All we had to do was trade away our star who didn’t really want to be here. Now these fans say they are not coming back. Were they really there to begin with? I have been. Season ticket holder since day 1.

Come to games people! Buy tickets. Spend some money and we will have some money to spend to cap.

Kovy

February 5th, 2010
10:46 am

My first real chance at winning the Stanley Cup. Priceless!

GDub

February 5th, 2010
10:47 am

All you people who can find the time and space on these blogs to pronounce that you are done with the Thrashers or not renewing your tickets need to stop and think. Obviously, you care enough or you wouldn’t be here. Obviously, you have some affinity for the sport of hockey and probably considered yourself a Thrasher fan at one point. I understand that everyone wants to vent. When you are done venting, what about become a positive catalyst for change. We all know who is to blame. Don’t stop coming out…don’t give up on the players…whether it is ownership or Wadell you have a beef with, there are many ways to make yourself heard there. Right now things look very unstable for us, but look around the league at teams like Tampa, New Yok Islanders, Phoenix, Dallas all of whom are having ownership issues right now. Remember not too long ago when the Penguins were in bankruptcy and almost folded, the Lightning were in shambles or the Sabres were practically in ruins with their owner going to jail. They got it turned around and the fans came back in droves. We can do the same if we put all this negative energy toward getting some real change..I refuse to believe Atlanta will not support a winning franchise that has an identity and some direction…it is not as far away as many are making it out to be.

Mark

February 5th, 2010
10:50 am

This is when I wouldn’t miss the next game for the world!! Saturday night should be fun!! 10 dollar ticket, front row seats! Lotsa booing!! Probably some good fights in the stands as well!

Also, anyone who thinks KC would get the Thrashers, well you overlook the fact that KC has the worst economy in the US, poor local tv, and would be a worse fit for hockey than Atl. The Leafs are not going to let a team go to Hamilton…forget it. Winnipeg…well, didn’t that prove out once before about their market problems? I mean their first team went to Phoenix for crissakes!

Atlanta is a top ten tv market in the US. Certainly, it is all based on potential, but none of the markets above offer anything near what Atl can offer if the franchise is ran correctly. Bettman will not let Atl lose a franchise easily. He may not do anything about the current product, but letting Atl lose the franchise puts him at risk in his job because it would be admitting failure to bring hockey to the SE US, which he will not do.

As far as Kovy leaving, well, DW hands were and are tied. I do challenge his claim that 20% of the cap to one player is too much, ownership doesn’t allow the team to come near the cap. Heck, we had to sign a player last year to make the minumum! We’re gonna move Lehts as well, we may have a minimum issue bigtime next year!

In the end, the team needs to be sold and kept local and there needs to be an adjustment in management. Waddell hasn’t provided much on his end, so wether he’s inept or not, he should be fired based soley on performance.

We’ve lost two of the three biggest draft picks, with the the third about to go. We bring in over the hill players, sign them long term, then get stuck.

We cannot sustain contracts with those brought in through trades (Hossa, Savard).

Sorry Don, gotta go.

Glad for the trade

February 5th, 2010
10:51 am

Are you guys serious? There’s no way Kovalchuk was doing anything but take the max. It was the same way with his last negotiation. Why would it be different this time? Even his best buddy Ovechkin cares enough for his team to recognize that he can’t take the max without hurting the team. So whether the Thrashers were a winning team or not, he was gone. My guess is he’s going back to Russia anyway where they’ll name a city after him to get him back.

I’m not a Waddell fan, but if you are in any way objective (I don’t think that word is even in Schultz’s vocabulary), you need to give him credit for pulling out something from nothing in these big trades. Heatley needed to go and he got Hossa out of it. Hossa is basically a mercenary going to who pays the most money when his contract is up and he got Colby Armstrong (a major reason for the team cohesion right now) out of it. And Kovalchuk was gone not matter what and he got players out of it, although we won’t know their benefit for a while.

Now I’m still smarting from the Tkachuk trade and other decisions. But at least give him credit and stop being reactionary whiny babies.

Dave

February 5th, 2010
10:53 am

Read a lot of the posts here and I think the majority of the folks are missing the point. Here are a couple of reasons
a. there is a salary cap in the NHL, and it’s going to go down (economy)
b. Kovalchuk wanted to be the highest paid player in the league? He’s good, but no Ovetchkin,Crosby even Malkin.
c. If there was a better deal out there ATL would have taken it …period
d. NO TEAM was going to GUT their club for a player that potentially walks at seasons end, he’s an unrestricted free agent and can sign anywhere he wants.
e. $ 101,000,000 …….. really? He must want out badly to turn that down.
f. Atl. keeps him for the remainder of the season, and he leaves (obviously because $101 mil isn’t enough) and Atl gets zilch. (then cry for Gm’s head)
I’m up in Canada and admitedly haven’t watched alot of games the Thrashers played but from what I’ve read or watched on TV, Ilya seems like a kinda selfish, offense only player. If he really wanted to stay, as he said, what more could Atl have done…reasonably within the salary cap. Remember you still have to have players around him and they want to get paid. It sounds like you folks don’t like your ownership, again know nothing of them, but Mr Buttman must have vetted them and I can’t believe that they are not dedicated 100% hockey people with only the best interests of the game in their hearts (sarcasm intended)
Let him go folks.. he didn’t want to be there. Support your team you don’t want to lose another.

A$G

February 5th, 2010
10:53 am

Listen to The Monkey & GDub

AND GIVE U$ YOUR MONEY NOW!!

Can’t you see this is the beginning of a dynasty.

Devilsfan80

February 5th, 2010
10:58 am

@Hacker_Dawg

Coach Lemaire is used to dealing with a player that doesn’t play defense. He had Gaborik in Minnesota. I’m more worried about him screwing up the chemistry of the team than him playing any kind of defense. We have plenty of guys who do play D that can cover for him if necessary. To be honest, I don’t think he will resign with us either. I’m hoping Lou ships out his rights before the start of free agency and gets something for him. Although stranger things have happened and it’s a very small possibility he could resign.

Kovy

February 5th, 2010
10:59 am

The NHL won’t leave ATL. It is a top 10 TV Market. The NHL needs ATL more than ATL needs the NHL.

bugman

February 5th, 2010
11:21 am

People Amaze Me, you’ve got to be kidding, right?

Kovy wanted to stay here. He also wanted to be part of a legit contender, something that the ownership/GM is not capable of providing. Oh they promised him the Thrashers would be but how much BS is he supposed to take? Would you stay on a sinking ship People Amaze Me? That’s what this franchise has been from day one, a sinking ship. I don’t blame the guy one bit. You wanna talk about stringing people along? Look at what D-Wad has PROMISED the fan base over 11 years. Look at what D-Wad promised Kovy over eight! Look at what D-Wad delivered: one year of contending. The rest, NOTHING!

Here’s the result of the ASG, “mastermind” Don Waddell (more like a$$termind) and their brilliance:

Season Ending Results

Last (30th)*
28th*
Last again
23rd (Minnesota makes the playoffs in ONLY their 3rd season!)
21st (maybe he stole Doug Risebrough’s notebook?)
19th (I could have signed this roster, maybe even you)
12th (an off year for the D-Wad)
28th (haven’t we been here before?)
27th (don’t worry, the 10 year plan is almost here!)
Currently 25th (future HOF Captain is traded – wtf?) and BARELY over .500

*ASG not culpable

Don Waddell is an idiot. Don Waddell is a liar. Don Waddell is THE WORST excuse for a GM in any pro sport on the planet, period. He had Turner money for the 1st two years here and built nothing! If he was half as intelligent as you make him out to be, he would have turned over the reins of this pony to someone else long ago.

You are either his wife or him. Really, that can be the only reasoning behind your asinine perspective. In either case, this franchise has been doomed since day one.

Again friends, the Glads are worth your time and $.

bugman

February 5th, 2010
11:24 am

Oops, forgot this morsel:

“you aren’t wanted or needed”

Go re-read this blog. D-Wad isn’t wanted or needed.

ken

February 5th, 2010
11:32 am

Well I stayed with you long enough. I am now sure you dont want to go anywhere with this team.
I guess I will go back to the Bruins.

Glad for the trade

February 5th, 2010
11:48 am

Dr. Warren

February 5th, 2010
11:52 am

Can any NHL team seriously pay $10 million a year to anyone? Seriously? Where do they get the cash?

a$$play

February 5th, 2010
12:47 pm

HOW CAN ANYONE RALLY AROUND KOVY???? I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MY JOB WAS SAFE FOR 12 YEARS AND GET PAID 8.5 ODD MILLION A YEAR!!!!

F HIM AND THE HORSE HE RODE IN ON!!!!!!!

Wake up People !!!!!!!!

ZamBonE

February 5th, 2010
12:51 pm

I can’t believe the Thrashers didn’t get a better offer for Kovy. I mean you gave up the franchise and acquired role players and a crappy draft pick. Oduya is garbage. You could have signed a minor leaguer and he would make the same impact as Oduya will. Cormier is a disaster waiting to happen. He is already known for being an extremely dirty player with a bad temper. The first round pick for 2010 is going to be crap since the devils were one of the top 4 teams without Kovy. Bergfors is the only bright spot in the trade, but he is no where close to the player Ilya Kovalchuk is. He is a solid prospect at 22 years old with room to grow.

Trading Kovy was the first step for the Thrashers to relocate to Canada. It’s only a matter of time.

ralph

February 5th, 2010
12:57 pm

the thrashers need a pool table in the locker room and a team chef. it worked for the hawks – they got joe johnson

Julius Seizure

February 5th, 2010
1:02 pm

Thrashers fans. I know it hurts to lose your best player. But you know what hurts more? Paying someone who plays only side of the rink and demands $101 mil contract. No player is good at an infinite pay. You guys will be better off in the long run. Now letting Heatley go – that was a mistake (don’t think you had a choice but nonetheless).

Pete

February 5th, 2010
1:02 pm

Kovalchuk is a spoiled, greedy, IGNORANT Russian who will “Milk” the American capitalist system for all it’s worth. Beyond pathetic.
I applaud Don Waddell for his actions. I’d much rather have a bunch of young average paid, aggressive, hungry, dedicated players than ONE so called “Super Star” who brought very little to the Thrasher team. It was all about HIM.
Good riddance.

Hockeyman3944

February 5th, 2010
1:21 pm

Hey Cormier..if you can read these rants, you’d better be ready to come in here and make an impact. If you think you’re a tough guy in the “Q”, try and elbow some guys head off in the bigs…your life expectancy would be less than zero. If you come here and work hard, know your place and try, just try to live up to your expectations, maybe, just maybe the fans here, (if there’s any left), might be on your side. If not, you’ll just be some snotty nosed punk coming from the juniors with a big resume and nothing to back it up.

Pete

February 5th, 2010
1:46 pm

This is not either party’s fault Jeff.
1.I would not sign a long term contract with any team, no matter the deal, when ownership is actively searching for a partner or buyers. He may love Atlanta, but what if the team moves to Saskatoon?
2. He wants to win the Stanley Cup, and knew that if he got his desired contract, the team would not have any chance of fielding a team that could win it all.
3. No matter what the spin, to stay in Atlanta, the Spirit group needed Kovy to sign, for what THEY could offer, not what he could get elsewhere.
4. If the Spirit gave Kovy what he wanted, the Thrashers could never win a Stanley Cup, and we would just have a great player on an average team.
This ownership is about basketball and has been from the start. The Thrashers are on the clock now to beat it out of town.
My family and I are big fans and are very disapointed.

timthebrave

February 5th, 2010
2:02 pm

You people don’t get it…No one said to pay what Kovalchuk was asking for…A real GM would have figured this out sooner and got something in return, or if they did wait until now they wouldn’t let the WHOLE league know exactly how desperate they are…If I was wanting to sell my house for $200,000 I wouldn’t let everyone know that I had to sell it now for anything I could get or go bankrupt and then act surprised when EVERONE low balled me.

BufordDawg

February 5th, 2010
2:29 pm

All you guys saying “No one gets it” – you’re the ones not getting it. Waddell has had since June 1998 to surround Ilya with a decent team. I don’t blame Ilya for outpricing himself from Disaster Don’s team. ASG and Waddell have set the standard for how to run a pro franchise into the f’n ground. Atlanta hockey fans deserve better than this… Pathetic!

steve

February 5th, 2010
2:42 pm

Look folks, I know these are seemingly tough times for the Thrash but really, what’s new here? When Kovy was out with his foot injury, did it make us less competitive? No. The team played the same way and if our goals-for was down while he was out, it was probably negligible.

Currently, it does suck that we lose the best player that we’ve ever had and one of the top NHL players of the era but it’s not all bad. We’ve had 8 seasons of Kovy and he alone could not take us to a Cup, we had to go out and get other names to supplement him like Keith TKachuk to actually make us better. It takes a team not one individual to make the Thrash a winner. The bottom line is, don’t listen to what people say, watch their actions.

This organ-eye-zation bent over backwards for this man: The consulted him on the roster in the off season (btw: I wonder what Nik Antropov really thinks now?), they named him team Captain (which he rightfully deserved), and they gave him and offer that any great player could not refuse and still, he turned his nose up at it. Why? He didn’t really want to be here and he doesn’t trust the stability of the franchise.

This is a business as we all know but I thought Kovy was a bit dishonest in his dealings and posturing through out this whole process. The Thrasher’s kissed his ass as best they could but in the end, Kovy just didn’t want to be here. DW did a magnificent in the off season putting together some great pieces. Now, with Kovy out of the mix, perhaps those pieces can shine…. Lord knows they have a chance to prove Kovy wrong and they have a completely clean slate to work from.

timthebrave

February 5th, 2010
2:46 pm

BufordDawg, I think we are agreeing that Waddell sucks

denni peppers

February 5th, 2010
3:02 pm

WADDELL SAID KOVY HAD BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS AND THE THRASHERS HADN’T WON A PLAYOFF GAME. STRANGE BUT I THINK WADDELL HAS BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS AND THE THASHERS HAVEN’T WON A PLAYOFF GAME. SOME GM. IN HIS CASE MAYBE GM MEANS GENERAL MORON.

jim

February 5th, 2010
3:12 pm

Heatley, Hossa, Kovy, Savard, Stefan (bust draft pick) and the always injured goalie…

Waddell and the ownership of this franchise need to LEAVE. NOW. we deserve better.

WJ

February 5th, 2010
3:31 pm

Personally I was glad to see Kovy leave. He is a superstar no doubt. But I truly believe for him it was all about money. How much can I demand? I think it is time that all the sports teams stop feeding the money hungry stars and driving up prices so that fans can’t afford to attend the games. Yes, I know that teams make money. They do so because people continue to pay ridiculous prices to see the games. I think it is time that all sports was given a wake up call. Reduce your monetary requirements on your fans. Become once again America’s Pasttime. Become fun again. Stop crying folks over a star who bought his way out of a city. Regardless, of what he said, he truly didn’t want to be a Thrasher unless his demands were met. Good by Kovy. Good luck with new team. I truly wish you the best but am glad that someone said no to high demands.

Praveen

February 5th, 2010
3:36 pm

WJ

February 5th, 2010
3:47 pm

Kovy priced himself out of a place where he stated he wanted to be. BS if ever been. He didn’t want to stay unless two things could be done. 1. A championship team (Never happen as long as Kovy tried to control things and tied up too much money)
2. The maximum amount of money possible under NHL guidelines. Not willing to drop down at all according to his agent who stated they never moved off their original demands.
Waddell is not the be GM but then he doesn’t have the best ownership group behind him either. Limitations by owners sometimes keeps things from happening the way a GM desires.

Kovy leaving Atlanta isn’t the end. It could be the beginning if we get someone who will be a team person rather than a superstar who tries to do it by self.

Joe Johnson (Hawks)also has that problem from time to time. They lost a game the other night that was tied and Joe tried to take it all the way to basket and lost the ball. Open men but Joe wanted to be the man. I think Joe needs to have confidence in others. Stop being the superstar and be the team player. I know I will get flack for this but isn’t it time to realize winning is about team effort! Whether it is BB or Hockey. Good by Kovy. Good Luck.

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madmacs

February 5th, 2010
4:39 pm

Devil fan here. Hate to see talent have to leave, as I have seen it numerous times in NJ (Gomez, Rafalski, Holik, Gionta, Niedermeyer (even though he wanted to go west)). That is where you need a GM to draft well and find character players to fill holes.

Oduya is not a stay at home defenseman. He is a puck carrying defenseman. Had a good year last year, and that got him his current 3-yr contract which he signed as an UFA.

Cormier got suspended for the elbow to the head of Tam. Ugly hit. He also threw an elbow in the Junior tourney, but that went undisiplined. He was captain of that team, so there is some talent and leadership there. Just has to clean-up his act, but not lose the edge.

Bergfors was injured early in the season last year and spent the rest of the year in Lowell (AHL). Had a good camp and start to the season this year, but really leveled-off over the last 20 games. This was supposed to be his “make or break” year with the team. I guess it will be his break year. Third line player, may grow into a top-6 forward.

Devils will be 10 million under the cap at year’s end. If Kovalchuk fits and wants to stay, there will be room. However, players have taken less than market value to stay in the past (Brodeur, Elias). I don’t think Lou will do anything to mess with that philosophy & chemistry.

Good luck the rest of the season. Only a few points out of the playoffs. With the distraction gone, maybe you can make up some ground.

jborodawg

February 5th, 2010
6:12 pm

He wanted out. The Thrashers are fighting for a playoff spot and still can’t get fans in the seats. So, it’s not ALL Waddel’s fault. Heck, he offered an outrageous package; over $101 mil/12 years!

Had Waddell not dealt Kovalchuk, the Thrashers could have come away with nothing once he became a free agent after this season. “My wife is expecting, but she said it’s a great opportunity for you to win the Cup, and that’s why I am here,” Kovalchuk said.

Praveen

February 5th, 2010
6:53 pm

In a league, where 16 teams make the playoffs, it is unbelievable the Thrashers could not make it more than once. And then they get swept by a team that wasn’t that great.

Kovy obviously priced himself out on purpose. I dont think he expects that in free agency. Only a foolish team would pay him more than 10M a year. I personally do not think he is worth more than 8M.

Brendan

February 5th, 2010
8:55 pm

Oh please, won’t someone please mention 101 million again. Oh, not dollars! Nope. Not dollars. 101 million REASONS TO LEAVE. Kovy … laughing … has already made $37 million playing hockey in the NHL. He doesn’t need to make another $1 in his life. One hundred percent (100%) of his ‘negotiating’ was based on having ZERO CONFIDENCE in this club, moving forward. That’s why he left. He’s not greedy. He just wanted out, and asking for more than the club could afford was the “playbook” blueprint he and his agent followed. Well, he can’t just blurt out, “Don, I’ll re-sign here after you’re fired.” Now can he??

Folks, it just doesn’t work … to THROW MONEY at a problem. We all saw “Titanic” in 1997. What does the Master at Arms say to Mr. Hockley? Anyone? Anyone at all?? “ALL your money won’t save you now.” That’s what Ilya told them. Is he supposed to simply IGNORE that Savard, Hossa, and Kaberle opted to leave? Was he supposed to SIMPLY IGNORE that after Bob Hartley was finally canned, that NO HEAD COACH was named! Instead, they stuck with Waddell for 76 games?? Was Kovalchuk supposed to ignore that when Hossa’s future was on the line, the team’s response was to land Eric Perrin and Todd White from the free agent market, when Drury, Briere and Gomez were available? Was Kovalchuk supposed to SIMPLY IGNORE that in nine completed seasons, the team finished in the bottom third of the Eastern Conference seven times!! Was Kovalchuk supposed to SIMPLY IGNORE that the team spent to the league minimum for the previous two seasons? Was Kovalchuk supposed to SIMPLY IGNORE that Don Waddell had hired three coaches, four if you count Waddell? Was Kovalchuk supposed to IGNORE that Brian Campbell couldn’t be lured here for ANY PRICE?? Well, friends. That’s a LOT of IGNORING to ask a Superstar Sniper to do. Even a defensive liability sniper, who is a -85 in his career.

Money is the “smokescreen.” I think the intelligent people understand that. And when Kovalchuk takes some OTHER TEAM’s 7-year/$60 million deal, you’ll finally “get it” … that it was never about the money. Thrasher fans can get all “hysterical” about $101 million … or $70 million over 7-years, for a $10 million cap. All that means is … “Kovalchuk wasn’t going to sign here AT ANY PRICE.”

Think about it. Now think HARDER. When Kovy takes $60 million this July, he left $41 million on the table. Why? Because Don Waddell has NO CLUE how to run an NHL franchise. And the Atlanta Spirit, LLC has NO CLUE what a GM’s duties really are, or should be. They think a GM is an accountant. They treat him accordingly. It’s sad and pathetic. But don’t blame the b!tchslapped hockey fans in this town for sniffing out the truth. It was NEVER, EVER, EVERRRRR about the money. What fans are upset about … was that the face of the franchise became “disenfranchised.” ‘Cuz that’s the phrase that pays. I don’t blame Kovy for wanting out. In his shoes, I probably would have CAVED, and taken the money. But Kovalchuk … is committed to playing for a franchise with a clue. And that’s not Atlanta. And he’s so firm in his convictions, that he spits on $100 million offers. “My Stanley Cup dreams cannot be bought for $101 million. Nice try, Atlanta. I’m gonna go follow my dream.” I guarantee you … Kovy will settle for TENS OF MILLIONS LESS than what Atlanta offered. He doesn’t need the money. What he NEEDS … is a franchise that knows what it’s doing.

Want a vote of confidence? Check the track record. Savard said no. Hossa said no. Kaberle said no. Brian Campbell said no. Ilya Kovalchuk … just said, “no.” And it’s not because of poor fan attendance. It’s because the entire franchise is grossly inept. And when a franchise is grossly inept and basically incapable, no star player will agree to come. The AS, LLC doesn’t get it, folks. “Not at ANY PRICE.” They just won’t come. They know better. All of them.

Original Hockey fan

February 5th, 2010
11:08 pm

NEWS!!! Kovy will not get the moolah that he`s expecting;not from Lou ! Always known as cheap franchise the Devils will rent him to try for the Cup,,,and if he wont produce astronomical Numbers and wins[stanley cup] he`ll be a free agent,,,after all he aint # 8 of the Washington D,C, team or #87 of the lemieux penguins.He`s good player,yes,but not THAT good.His only hope is that either Cablevision owner of the Rangers[to help them sell that franchise] or the other computer guy from long island will make another atrociuos deal after Di Pietro`s deal.You think that the Thrashers have a lousy GM? About those two idiots from the New York metro area who keep on making in$ane contracts[Percival,Redden,Brashear,etcc]??? And to think that the Rangers GM won multiple Stanley CUps in Edmonton with Gretzky,Lowe,and others,,Is He Really the SaMe Guy?

gabugman

February 6th, 2010
9:52 pm

Well said and straight to the point, Brendan.

Brendan

February 7th, 2010
4:23 pm

Thank you, gabugman.

PhillDoc

February 14th, 2010
6:40 pm

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