If Brett Favre decides to walk away again ...
... Michael Vick (or Donovan McNabb) may walk in.
Brett Favre is pondering retirement again, and for all we know that pondering might extend through the winter, through the spring, past the draft, past free agency and into summer and the start of training camp.
Should he step away (again) — and there are indications he will — don’t be surprised if the name Michael Vick comes up as a possible replacement.
Let’s start with Favre. Earlier in the postseason, he told ESPN’s Ed Werder, “If you win, you go on. If you lose, you’re done, and for me, that could very well be my last game.” And just this morning, my pal Adam Schefter of the same network sent this on Twitter: “Let this be the first of hopefully very few Favre-Watch updates: Favre told ESPN’s Ed Werder it was ‘highly unlikely’ he’d play again.”
I know. We can’t know because even Favre doesn’t know, and even if Favre knows something at lunch, he may change his mind at dinner. And then back again at breakfast. But let’s operate on the unsafe assumption for now that he’s retiring.
The Vikings’ quarterback depth chart reads: Favre-Tarvaris Jackson-Sage Rosenfels. Jackson is an impending free agent and, while he says that he is open to staying with the team, you have to wonder about how the franchise views him, given the way they treated him through the romancing of Favre. If Favre doesn’t come back, there is no telling what direction the team will go.
Enter Vick: Minnesota was one of the teams believed to show early interest in Vick, until the rumor finally was shot down by owner Zygi Wilf and coach Brad Childress (both of whom have truth issues). Vick had some of his best moments against the Vikings. He obviously doesn’t have Favre’s accuracy but his strong arm pairs well with receivers Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin and Bernard Berrian.
ESPN already is floating Vick-to-Minnesota in its “rumors” section this morning (requires Insiders subscription). Speculation also has Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb going to the Vikings, where he would be reunited with Childress (his former quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator with the Eagles).
Very few people believe Vick will be back with the Eagles. Other rumored destinations are Buffalo (needs a quarterback; owner is looking for a marketing tool), St. Louis (general manager Billy Devaney was with the Falcons and has kept in contact with Vick), Arizona (Kurt Warner may retire; Matt Leinart’s status is uncertain); Oakland (Al Davis: enough said) and Carolina (Jake Delhomme’s future is uncertain).
For what it’s worth, the Falcons play St. Louis, Arizona and Carolina next season, but not Minnesota, Buffalo or Oakland. Any thoughts on Vick in purple?
419 comments Add your comment
Vick Supporter
January 25th, 2010
5:03 pm
@Russ
I will enlighten you my Caucasian friend. Obviously, vick was rusty…who wouldn’t be after not playing for two years. Vick came on as the season progressed which led to the tds he scored all over the falcons, the run against the bears, the vick to Jackson bomb in new York, and the 76yd bomb to Maclin in the playoffs. Vick will be a better qb this time around, guranteed
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2010
5:04 pm
First of all, Michael Vick most certainly can still read defenses and throw accurately in the NFL, just as he used to in Atlanta with regularity.
As for the Vikings, I honestly don’t think they have given up on Tarvaris Jackson. Even if they do bring in a veteran, I think they will give Jackson a fair shot at competing for the starting job. Don’t forget, Jackson was Brad Childress’ draft pick, and they may be inclined to give Jackson a second chance after seeing how Vince Young responded to being promoted after his benching. Considering how similar in styles Vick and Jackson are, I would think they would rather have a traditional pocket passer to compete with him. That said, I would love to see Vick go to Minnesota, where he would have a great offensive line, a great running game, and very good receivers to work with.
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
5:06 pm
no south carolina schools a$$hole and just dont care when im writing on a little blog site i didnt realize it mattered that much to you guy. and im not frustrated im amused. go ahead and cheer for ignorance but i know ive made valid points and the only response is like a child taunting someone
truth
January 25th, 2010
5:08 pm
I hope Vick gets a chance to start somewhere. He will finally prove to the world once more that he is not a good QB. He should swollow his pride and be a running back. Aleast the idiot could salvage alittle dignity. Maybe…..??????????
what
January 25th, 2010
5:13 pm
@Vick supporter……if it where not for the receivers being WIDE OPEN Vick would not have completed those passes. He couldn’t hit a receiver in stride if his life depended on it. I watched him at QB compitions at the pro-bowl and it was a shame to watch my teams QB miss a moving target time and time again. Oh well atleast he can run. Good bye to bad rubish!!
truth
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
Me too Davenpoopiehead………let Vick go to the Vikes. PLEASE LET VICK GO TO THE VIKES!!!!!! That would mean one more team the Falcons wouldn’t have to worry about on the NFC.
DaQueesha G.
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
Mike Vick be my babydaddy and he dunn give me da crabs and sumthin else but I don’t not know what it called. But I have soars that show up bout once a munt and they be hurtin like a mofo. Yall quit hate-a-rateing on Mike Vick. He bee the black Supermann.
Russ
January 25th, 2010
5:21 pm
Vick Supporter – So when you said, “Vick actually worked with a great coaching staff that helped him with his accuracy. I could tell that his footwork was better/changed and the throws that he made were beautiful and right on the money”, you meant you saw this change and improvement just in the last few games of the season and on a few select plays. That quote sounded to me like you were talking about the entire season, but now we are on the same page with regards to that.
I always like when the Vick lovers point out the poor coaching he got in Atlanta and the good coaching he got in Philadelphia this year. While I agree the coaching in Atlanta was very weak, it seems like you are already setting up an excuse if/when Vick fails. Can’t you always blame it on a coaching staff? Honestly, it is just a matter of opinion coming from fans like us whether or not someone is getting good coaching or not.
GoJackets
January 25th, 2010
5:29 pm
I cant imagine any semi competitive team taking any chance on Vick as a starter. He wont end up in Arizona or Minnesota. He might end up in Buffalo if they are just looking for an extra publicity stunt outside of TO. You just cant put the fate of your team in the hands of a guy like him. It would be insane.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2010
5:31 pm
I’m no insider or anything obviously, but just based on what teams have been known to do in the past and how they may pursue this offseason I’d rank the teams who might get Vick in order of likelihood like this:
1. Buffalo
2. Carolina
3. Washington
4. St. Louis
5. Arizona (if Warner retires)
6. Kansas City
7. Oakland
8. Minnesota (if Favre retires)
9. Denver (if Orton leaves as a free agent)
10. San Francisco
It should be obvious, but Arizona or Minnesota would be the best landing spots for Vick. Oakland and Buffalo would be the worst, both due to organizational disarray and strength of division. He’d have the best chance to make the biggest impact in St. Louis — despite their terrible record this year, they could easily make a big jump in the standings next year if they add Vick, Ndamukong Suh, and a couple of other impact rookies, due to their weak division and the fact that a dome favors Vick’s speed-based game. Carolina would also be a place he could instantly make a huge impact, since that team already has a lot of necessary pieces to be a playoff team, although of course it would be tough for people who like Vick and the Falcons to pull for him if he plays for a division rival.
ZDawg
January 25th, 2010
5:32 pm
I said it before the season. Tevarious Jackson is the poor man’s Mike Vick. May as well get the real thing at a deep discount!
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
5:33 pm
where’d ya go choke? i didnt mean to hurt your feelings im sorry pal or did mommy take screen time away oh i hope not i love to hear the same recycled garbage that you spew out
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
5:37 pm
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
4:47 pm
choke your boy takes steroids and everyone hates him in atl but you and your fag friend vick supporter that was an ajc poll
“I wonder who this is”:
- ZERO playoff wins
- ZERO pro bowls
- ZERO Championship Game appearances
- ZERO division titles
- ZERO MVP runner up finishes
I guess he just is a plain ZERO
And a PICK MACHINE….. 26 PICKS in less than 32 games
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
5:40 pm
Russ
January 25th, 2010
4:49 pm
I heard Vick was such an inaccurate thrower that it would take him several tries to hit the ground when he was slamming those dogs’ bodies.
“Your information is so inaccurate”
It took three tries
Dawg Foot
January 25th, 2010
5:42 pm
Vick could not manage the game and will NEVER be a Super Bowl QB.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
5:43 pm
JD
January 25th, 2010
4:53 pm
Choke, you got robertussen right where you want him, frustrated… lol
“HA HA HA”
If being STUPID was gold he would own Fort Knox ……… HA HA HA
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
5:43 pm
Bill
January 25th, 2010
4:58 pm
I’m black and can’t stand Vick. He gives all us black a bad name
“Who cares what race you are”
Your parents gave you that BAD name
Ivan
January 25th, 2010
5:46 pm
Favre’s retirement could also open the door for a good QB to go to the Vikings, Jeff.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
5:48 pm
Marlon
January 25th, 2010
4:59 pm
Hey robertussen, ever heard of a period? You must be a product of GA schools, you could use a grammar tip.
“SLAMMED”!
That’s cold! I guess the stupid comment wasn’t such a stretch afterall
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
5:57 pm
davinpoop i read your list and it needs to be smaller. 1. buffalo, i dont see a franchise trying to rebuild completely going to risk it on this guy. 2. carolina, maybe this one, if john fox stays here. they would be a really good running attack if vick still has enough gas left in the tank, remember “rushing” qbs dont get better with age. 3. washington, not gonna happen with mike shannahan there. 4. st. louis, maybe here, i dont much about the area of the fans nd how much they would welcome a dog killer into this town, they need ticket sales like jacksonville does( who i see taking tebow before vick) so maybe them. 5. arizona, if warner retires it doesnt matter theyve been coaching up matt lienert to take over for him and he was a high draft pick so i dont see them giving up on him just yet. 6. kansas city, well seeing how they gave matt castle a huge pay check for numerous years, and they whole new “new england” style staff they have in place..no way not here. 7. oakland, always a chance a player can go here to die, they can have him. in fact we should have traded him to get randy moss and the #1 over all pick in the 2007 draft, and we still had matt schaub, but in hindsight we may still be stuck with patrino and that would suck. 8. minn, they owner wont let that happen and tj is already there and hes younger. 9. denver, thats laughable man..are you kidding me… josh mcdanials wouldnt do that to his team, vick dont fit in denver. 10 san fran. another case where the owner and the town itself wont allow vick to come here.. the stuck up snobs and hippis in san fran hate vick. so maybe, car., st louis, or oakland
Fran Tarkenton
January 25th, 2010
6:00 pm
Brett will play another year.
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:01 pm
same recycled crap so im gonna come down to your level choke whatdaya say it’ll be fun! YO CHOKE your mama so fat she eat wheat THICKS
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:01 pm
YO CHOKE your mama so fat we’re in her right now
jesse james
January 25th, 2010
6:02 pm
I hope Favre doesn’t retire. He is a warrior and there aren’t many of them around anymore. He’s the Cal Ripken type. I just think he is good for the game and as long as he can produce I would like to see him continue.
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:03 pm
YO CHOKE your mama so fat i gotta roll over twice to get off of her
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:04 pm
YO CHOKE your mama so broke i saw her walkin down the street the other day i said what you doin she say movin
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:05 pm
she was kicking a can by the way
DMR
January 25th, 2010
6:07 pm
Vick to Minnesota? Mark Bradley can just recycle the “OVER-RATED” article and this time it will be believable and true.
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:09 pm
YO CHOKE your mama so fat she fell in love and broke it
Upstate Falcon
January 25th, 2010
6:21 pm
Who gave Choke his keyboard back. Somebody please break it!
Farve just has elaborate way of avoiding training camp. He will be back. Remeber the threw an int for his last playoff game at Green Bay. He can’t live with that for the rest of his life.
I hope Vick ends up in Carolina, the Falcons could use his turnovers!
robertussen
January 25th, 2010
6:42 pm
sorry man my computer is messing up and im gonna have to go it was fun to harass and troll you like you do so many others by the way YO CHOKE your mom is so stupid that ……….well she is YOUR mom speaks for it self
waw
January 25th, 2010
6:43 pm
Vikings have lost their last FIVE NFC championship appearances. Now they are going to try something different? The Vickings?
DHD
January 25th, 2010
6:55 pm
Ha!!!!!!!!!! You guys can’t go ONE day without an article about your lover, Vick. Funny stuff!!!
Mr. G
January 25th, 2010
7:04 pm
First!….I wanted to say that….I know it’s lame but still….
Moving on?
Who really cares if Vick goes to Minnesota? He is good but the spectacular is gone. Just give the man a fair shake and prove that he can be a legit quarterback.
kurt warner
January 25th, 2010
7:05 pm
nobody cares that i retired
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
7:19 pm
“PAY ATTENTION TO NUMBER 7″
Top-10 Brett Favre Blunders
by Tim Furious
Those of you who had the Vikings +165 to win the NFC Championship on Sunday are going to remember Brett Favre for throwing the game away in the final minute of regulation as much as you’ll relive his insanely resilient performance to gut it out. We all know that he’s amassed milestones, won over hearts and had plenty of memorable performances. Yet the 2009-10 NFC Championship game was a cruel reminder to Favre’s backers that he’s been as deplorable as he’s been delightful.
10. Lambeau Opener in 2006 Against Bears
It’s not he biggest loss of his career, but 2006 was the beginning of the “Will He Won’t He Retirement Tour That Never Ends”. Favre opened the game with just five passes for 70 yards and tossed two picks in the second half to lose the game 0-26. So why is this a big deal? It’s the only shutout that Brett Favre ever endured when he lasted the whole game.
9. His Entire 2005 Season
Every legend is allowed one bad season, but this was one for the ages. Brett’s Packers won just four games that season, while Favre threw for 3,881 yards, 18 touchdowns a career high 29 interceptions. It was his lowest overall season quarterback rating at just 70.9 though it wasn’t without its excuses. Javon Walker, Bubba Franks and Ahman Green, the team’s best offensive weapons, were all on the shelf with various injuries and Favre’s offensive line had lost two key players in Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle.
8. Five Picks Against Cincinnati In 2005
The Packers were just 1-5 SU at this point and in desperate need of a victory. Brett connected on 26-of-39 passes in this game, but if you include the five interceptions that landed in the hands of Bengals’ defenseman, he has 31! Each time the Packers looked like they were going to stage a road upset over the 6-1 SU Bengals, Favre gave the ball away. Tragically, the Packers lost 14-21 and on the final play of the game Favre scrambled past the line of scrimmage by about five yards…then tried to pass the ball forward. But hey, I bet had a blast doing it! The fun never ends with Brett Favre!
7. NFC Wild Card Upset Against Vick’s Falcons
With Michael Vick as a rookie quarterback in the 2003 Wild Card Playoffs, nobody gave him a chance in hell of going in to Lambeau and upsetting the heavily favored Packers. Then the Falcons put up a 24-0 lead going in to the half and the crowd turned to Brett to keep their undefeated home playoff record intact.
Brett opened the second half with a brilliant touchdown drive…followed by six possessions that involved four turnovers, two of which belonged to Brett in the form of a fumble and a pick. At this point in his career, it was impossible to teach an old dog like Brett new tricks in the post season which makes it ironic that he’d be upset by the puppy assassinating Vick.
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6. Six Picks Against Rams in 2002 Playoffs
Brett has always had that magical knack for fooling us in to thinking that he could throw a ball right through Mt. Everest or concuss a charging rhino with his grenade launching arm and boyish grin. So when Brett was matched up against the vaunted Greatest Show on Turf, led by destined hall of famer Kurt Warner, there were those that thought Brett could somehow pull this one out of his khaki shorts. Instead of a victory, Favre gave the Packers’ fans six interceptions, three of which were returned for scores.
5. 2008 Jets Slam in to Interception Mountain
At the time we had no idea that Eric Mangini was holding out on us concerning Brett’s torn bicep. But in the final five games of the season, with the Jets holding on to an 8-3 SU record, Brett’s gun slinging charm wasn’t enough to bully them in to the playoffs. The Jets finished 1-4 SU and Brett piled up just two touchdowns completely offset by 9 interceptions the final five games of the season.
4. 2007-08 NFC Championship Against Giants
In Brett’s final game as a Packer, and with his final pass in the green and gold, the NFC Championship game went to overtime after Mason Crosby was able to nail a field goal to tie the game at twenty apiece. Green Bay got the ball off the coin flip, and in his first and only pass of extra time, Favre shot a pass straight to cornerback Cory Webster. The Giants never gave the ball back and booted a 47-yarder to win the game. Sound familiar?
3. Laying Down for Strahan in 2001
In a wildly contested NFL record, Michael Strahan edged the season sack record of 22.0 by Mark Gastineau by “sacking” Favre. In fact, Favre basically sat on the ground so his buddy could steal the record from the former New York Jet. Some defend this by saying that Favre didn’t want to get blasted by a viscious Strahan hit, but he was hardly in harms way of getting blind sided and this is also a quarterback who was renowned for his scrambling ability. It was less of a sack and more of Favre bending over so that Strahan could score a reach around and wiggle in to the record books.
2. “I’m Retiring…Just Kidding!”
You’ve all been there…twice. It’s nothing I want to relive, although I may be forced to this summer. We were bludgeoned over the head with articles documenting his greatest moments and his staggering career achievements. Then we were smothered with reports of the “Will He, Won’t He?” variety. Now it’s just the Retirement Tour that never ends, kind of like Jay Leno’s but with less poor comedy.
At this point, however, it’s impossible to say that Favre doesn’t deserve the chance to think about it. Sure he practically held the Vikings and Jets at gunpoint while he waffled on retiring, but his performance this season was one of his best. He’s one of the greatest quarterbacks that ever lived, and I’m not entirely sure that “Team Tavaris” has any active members other than his mother. Still…it’s annoying.
1. Brett Tosses Fatal Pick Against Saints
Brett was stuffed in to the turf of the Superdome a billion times in this game, and got back up every time like he was starring in his own rendition of Rocky. Despite costly fumbles, the Vikings were in range to upset the Saints on their own turf and with the Vikings in field goal range, Favre scrambled out of the pocket on third down with less than a minute to go.
You could hear all of Minnesota screaming, “THROW IT AWAY! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE GOD, THROW IT AWAY!”. You could almost hear Green Bay’s jilted fans chuckling to themselves, “Here it comes…”
And it did.
Favre needlessly tried to force a pass across his body to Sidney Rice, that was picked off and sealed the fate of the Vikings who were unable to stave off elimination by the Saints in overtime.
How does this rank as the worst blunder in a career that spanned 19-years? Because of the ramifications. He had survived being raped by Saints’ defenders throughout the game, and the Vikings somehow kept the score close despite a brutal amount of giveaways. He didn’t need to throw that pass. He didn’t need to be a hero. In a season where he had taken deliberate measures to avert making mistakes, throwing just 7 interceptions all season, Favre made the dumbest decision of all at the worst time possible.
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NFL & Vick good for both
January 25th, 2010
7:22 pm
They fear Vick being with a good team. The media, yahoo sport for one sport writers hate him . There is so much politic in the sport media.
They fear this guy. I dare them to give this guy a chance with a good team. with a lot of tools around him. Bret Farve is a hell of a QB he was a outcast in Atlanta just like Vick . Tool win . . This guy is good and put AZZes in seat. All because of the media !!!
NFL & Vick good for both
January 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
nobody in the draft is better than vick in 2010 !! just a fact
NFL & Atlanta
January 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
listen to these people throw this guy away Farve! They said the same back then to. This is why in a few short year they will say the same about Matt Ryan watch and see!!! Farve has Balls Ryan will never have them all punk!!! He is still better than any QB in the last 5 Drafts!!
Navigator
January 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
I think it’s great that MVick is candidate for QB at Vikings, hey why not, a 40 year old couldn’t get them to the superbowl. I can see it now, finally a team with a running QB to go with a pro bowl running back, and that coach had so much success coaching Favre, thing what he could do with the mild mannered Vick. I’ll say it now, Superbowl, can’t miss, might as well not even play the games, they will win them all, nobody else has a chance. The author continues his man crush babbling as the men and white coats take him away, chanting, “We don’t care who wins, we want Vick, we want Vick”.
Minnesota Dawg
January 25th, 2010
7:36 pm
Farve will be back. Our voice of the Vikings, Paul Allen, thinks he will be back. What have my fellow Georgians got against Micael Vick? He won a lot of games for you! He’s served his time. I don’t agree with treating animals the way he did, but some people elevated dogs to the same level as humans! What about all the kids being aborted everyday? That’s the real crime! I hope Vick makes it again.
Billg
January 25th, 2010
7:40 pm
Thanks Larry, you kept my typing short.
jesse james
January 25th, 2010
7:41 pm
Brett Farve could by my wing, I mean my quarterback anyday.
NFL & Atlanta
January 25th, 2010
7:47 pm
Ryan ALL PUNK no heart never a winner(Ball less)!! Just the QB for Atlanta always not a winner. They build this clown to be a star. all hype pure smoke!!
Whopper Dawg
January 25th, 2010
7:55 pm
They would be complete and total idiots to bring Vick in. Of course, I think Phillie was too. That worked great didn’t it. Maybe in Minnie, he could start fighting huskies. Too cold for bulldogs up there.
The Boss
January 25th, 2010
8:26 pm
“Choke”, as usual your such a dumb a$$. You tease people for hating on your boy that pretends to be an NFL QB, yet what is your blog name? Pot meet kettle. Maybe you should change your blog name since you’re so concerned that everyone play nice now!
Vikings Fan
January 25th, 2010
8:37 pm
Heck Ya! Id want to see mike vick in purple!!!! Hes an awesome quarterback.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
8:46 pm
The Boss
January 25th, 2010
8:26 pm
“Choke”, as usual your such a dumb a$$. You tease people for hating on your boy that pretends to be an NFL QB, yet what is your blog name? Pot meet kettle. Maybe you should change your blog name since you’re so concerned that everyone play nice now!
“May I recommend Hooked On Phonics”
Did you even complete a 1st grade grammar class?
Matt "Choke" Ryan
January 25th, 2010
8:49 pm
NFL & Atlanta
January 25th, 2010
7:47 pm
Ryan ALL PUNK no heart never a winner(Ball less)!! Just the QB for Atlanta always not a winner. They build this clown to be a star. all hype pure smoke!!
“CHOKE is so weak” he couldn’t lift a noodle with that NOODLE ARM
Dude is a loser and couldn’t win a playoff game if the other team didn’t show up
“DUMP THE CHUMP”
Only the Falcons would draft him
The Dolphins drafted an Offensive lineman before that CHUMP
By the way, that lineman has been selected to 2 straight pro bowls.
Vick Supporter
January 25th, 2010
9:15 pm
Matt Ryan Sucks.
Plain and simple