
Former Virginia coach Al Groh suddenly has options other than Georgia Tech -- the Miami Dolphins.
Let me start this by saying that Georgia Tech is not quite in the same situation with Al Groh that Georgia was with Kirby Smart, in that even if this potential hire blows up in Paul Johnson’s face he could probably escape public humiliation.
But Techies: Don’t get too comfortable.
In timing too perfect to ignore, the Miami Dolphins have fired their defensive coordinator, Paul Pasqualoni. The Dolphins’ vice president of operations is Bill Parcells. Parcells is a long-time friend and frequent boss of Groh’s. How frequent? They worked together at Army. And Air Force. And the New York Giants. And the New England Patriots. And the New York Jets.
For all we know, they once bagged groceries at adjacent checkout lines.
There have been strong indications that Groh may be hired by Johnson, who fired defensive coordinator Dave Wommack last week. But after being fired as the head coach at Virginia, a return to the NFL seemed like the more logical career transition for the 65-year-old Groh than staying in college as a defensive coordinator. Now the NFL opportunity may be there, and it’s with Parcells.
Maybe I’m overthinking this. But it’s not like Groh is exactly shooting the possibility down.
Comments to the Palm Beach Post (double-speak award):
“Any speculation to that possibility would be very premature at this point. I have a certain criteria in place for which I’m interested. It starts with the people that are involved. I’m open to anything that would fit that criteria. … That doesn’t mean anything or everything.”
ESPN.com followed that up with this:
Former Virginia coach Al Groh told ESPN.com that he hasn’t been contacted by the Dolphins about the vacancy, but he’d welcome the opportunity to work with old boss Bill Parcells again.
Groh’s name immediately comes to mind as a replacement because of his relationship with Parcells.
(Groh on his long history with Parcells): “I’ve done it five times. Some people would say that I’m nuts. Some people would say that I’m fortunate. So, having it done it five times already, yeah, obviously, there’s a track record there.”
One thing Tech can take comfort in: This won’t be a financial decision. Groh is being paid $4.33 million over the next two more years by Virginia. This will come down to where he feels most comfortable. Maybe that is still Tech. (For the record, we’re not certain Johnson actually has offered him the job yet.)
But given the backdrop of the way things have unraveled in Athens, as well as the timing of the Dolphins’ opening, how comfortable are you right now?
263 comments Add your comment
Frank
January 11th, 2010
11:24 pm
First?
macrotech
January 11th, 2010
11:27 pm
Not worried about the ’slap in the face’ factor….hopefully, Tech will find their DC quickly so that we can begin the matching up of our ‘O’ with our ‘D’….even with the loss of our four players to the nfl, we should be a tough team to beat when our ‘D’ catches up with our ‘O’….looking forward to the next season! Last season was fun….this season? COULD be an amazing one!!!!
Jeff Schultz
January 11th, 2010
11:35 pm
Frank — Mazel Tov.
Jeff Schultz
January 11th, 2010
11:36 pm
Macrotech — I suspect we’ll know something about Groh in the next day or two.
Augusta Jacket
January 11th, 2010
11:40 pm
Even if Groh accepts the Tech job, how long would he stay? He is already 65, maybe 5 years tops? I think Georgia Tech should get somebody that can stay longer than a few years.
Jeff Schultz
January 11th, 2010
11:42 pm
Can’t think in those terms any more in today’s college atmosphere. If you’re certain he’ll stay for at least two, that’s fine. Better to get somebody great now and worry about it again in 2 years.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 11th, 2010
11:42 pm
Augusta Jacket (Augusta here too, btw), if we get somebody younger, he might leave sooner than 5 years if he’s any good and gets a head coaching offer. Ya never know.
Resign or Resign?
January 11th, 2010
11:44 pm
Hey, if Groh goes to the ‘fins; why wouldn’t Tech want to hire Paul Pasqualoni? Don’t know why he fell out of favor with Parcels and Sparano, but everyone raved about his defense before, and during, the season past. Don’t know anything about him except that.
Jason
January 11th, 2010
11:46 pm
Why not dial up Southern Miss’ current Outside Linebackers Coach? That’s where we got Wommack from. Maybe even upgrade to the guy who coaches all three linebackers.
Tucson Wreck
January 11th, 2010
11:46 pm
I agree with Jeff. If we can have Groh put down the foundations for a pro-style 3-4 system, then I’m sure Groh can either groom or have someone “available” to carry what he puts together….assuming of course things are reasonably successful.
dagnabit
January 11th, 2010
11:46 pm
If we get him then we get him. If we don’t then we don’t. I think Groh would be a good fit at Tech. Right at the moment, I’m getting into Toubab Krewe. So t’m pretty relaxed about the whole thing.
Augusta Jacket
January 11th, 2010
11:47 pm
That all makes sense if thats the case. It would be nice to see Tech in a 3-4, we could move some of our big DEs to outside linebackers and have Barnes, Lanier, and Peters as the down lineman that could be scary good.
Logic
January 11th, 2010
11:47 pm
I don’t see why Georgia’s situation is considered “public humiliation” other than deep down you hate UGA, Jeff. He chose to stick with a team that just won a national championship over a team that needs some revamping. Just because he played at UGA doesn’t mean he was going to come running back to Athens at the first chance he got. It’s no different than Groh not going to Tech, if he doesn’t. It’s just a guy making a decision.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 11th, 2010
11:47 pm
Jeff, if you’re still reading this, I heard on NPR yesterday morning that the governor of Iowa had been ignored by the governor of another state when he attempted to make a friendly wajer on a bowl game this year. They didn’t say which state or bowl game, and it’s possible it was on the Iowa State bowl game (whoever they played). Do you have any idea if Purdue ignored such a request and why the hell he would do that? I know he’s a UGAG grad and supporter, but if he pulled a stunt like that, that has now made national news, then that’s disgraceful. Have you heard anything about that?
wxwax
January 11th, 2010
11:47 pm
Mark, don’t forget to ask Dimitroff about drafting players with a history of injuries.
Resign or Resign?
January 11th, 2010
11:47 pm
Except, of course, thet he used to be the Head Coach at Syracuse.
wxwax
January 11th, 2010
11:48 pm
Erm, umm, ah…. that would be Jeff.
Love ya, baby.
Xihix
January 11th, 2010
11:54 pm
I’d like for him to come to Tech. I would like to think he has some revenge in the ACC, and that the NFL would be too much for him at his age. He also stated he wanted to end his career as a consistent winner, which I believe is more possible with Tech than with the Dolphins. For what it’s worth though, he hasn’t been offered by the Dolphins yet… We’ll see. He said any talks about it were premature anyway.
NCR
January 11th, 2010
11:56 pm
It seems to me that the DC job at Georgia Tech is a more interesting job than the Dolphins. Compare head coaches Paul Johnson or Tony Sparano. Who is more likely to be coaching their respective teams in 3 years? Seems like there could be more stability at the top at Tech. And my guess is that Groh (at 65), wouldn’t be interested in a head coaching position in the NFL anyway.
Need patience
January 11th, 2010
11:59 pm
Groh is appealing but he also has drawbacks. He is stubborn and I just dont see the fire inside. Let the search run its course. D-Rad will steer this ship right.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:00 am
I doubt that D-Rad gives much input into who his head coach hires for an assistant. I can’t imagine any head coach being willing to put up with that.
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
12:02 am
I’m not uncomfortable at all Jeff. Groh would be a good hire but he needs to go where he wants to go. Apparently he’s intrigued by Tech’s offense and rapid rise in the conference. That, in itself, is a compliment to the program and a sign that good candidates will be very interested. Hopefully he’ll join us but if he decides that working with Parcells is a better fit I’ll respect his decision as the right one.
jabster
January 12th, 2010
12:03 am
@Supersize: Sunni “No Sunday Beer and Tachophobe” Perdue is such a UGA homer it’s pathetic. At least Joe Frank Harris and Zell Miller kept their noses out of COFH while they were in office. But how did Sunni (and JFH, for that matter) manage to graduate from UGA while being teetotalers? That’s like failing the Regents Exam…it’s easy, but you can’t get out without it.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:12 am
jabster, I have never heard of any state governor failing to accept a friendly wajer on a bowl game in which any college in his state participated. Hell, all he had to do was offer a bushel of peaches if Tech lost (which unfortunately we did). To totally ignore something like that, assuming it was the Orange Bowl and Tech, is not only rude, it is unconscienable. I voted for him, but he has already lost every bit of confidence I ever had in him by aiding the pres of UGAG in his empire-building attempts by opening a satellite campus of MCG in Athens. We people in Augusta are pretty much convinced that eventually the main Augusta campus of MCG, which has been here for more than 100 years will eventually be moved to Athens. S***w Purdue and Adams and all of UGAG.
come on man
January 12th, 2010
12:15 am
Hey techies how bout looking into Willie Martinez?
BY the way DAWGS rule 30-24 and jackets drool…..! That was some Orange Bowl. You did the state proud. Go DAWGS
TD
January 12th, 2010
12:16 am
PennWagers.com
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:17 am
Hey mutts, how bout you looking into Dave Wommack.
LetsGetRealAlready
January 12th, 2010
12:17 am
While I respect Groh’s body of work, I hope he takes the Miami job and Tech hires a DC who will be able to build that side of the ball as well as recruit. I just don’t see Groh being hot on the recruiting trail for that special kid that could make the program. He’s done is time in that role and I just don’t think it would be a great hire for Tech. There are other great DC’s in college football and Tech doesn’t have to hire the “name” like UGAly does. We just need someone who can get the job done. I guess if Groh does get hired, we Tech fans can yell “G’roh!” (ala Homer Simpson’s “D’oh!”) when the D makes a mistake.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:19 am
Mutts can’t even convince one of their own to come home as DC. Nobody wants that job.
Resign or Resign?
January 12th, 2010
12:49 am
Groh, or someone on his staff, was a good recruiter. They provide NFL talent every year; especially OLs & LBs.
Paul in RDU
January 12th, 2010
1:18 am
At Groh’s age and with his financial situation (he would essentially be working for free at either GT or the Dolphins) he’s likely to make any choice based on lifestyle and comfort with the people around him.
We’ll just have to see. I can’t get worked up about him either way.
I am not sure he was a good recruiter at UVA. One of the knocks on him was that he alienated the HS coaches in the Tidewater area and couldn’t recruit there.
Ted Striker
January 12th, 2010
1:32 am
I like the fact that this article isn’t 85% flippant and 15% substance.
JRA
Ted Striker
January 12th, 2010
1:34 am
p.s. Which isn’t an indictment of prior articles, btw. Just saying that on a peer-comparison tonight, you win, hands, feet, and schwing down
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 12th, 2010
6:17 am
Jeff: What I would like to know is who are the other candidates Johnson may be looking to hire? Really, no one even knows if Groh is even the “top of the list” person Johnson may want. You guys need to do some digging…I’m sure that Johnson isn’t putting all his eggs in Groh’s basket. I personally think Romeo Crennel ends up with the Dolphin’s job but what do I know.
Johnson is doing this thing the right way…keeping it quite so he can decide on the best hire. Since he’s known he was going to replace Wommack for some time, he’s had plenty of time to put feelers out and take care of a lot of preliminary stuff. Bet he has a hire by Friday at the latest.
UGAFan
January 12th, 2010
6:48 am
Let me be the first to say good luck in your search for a DC. This is a pivotal time for your program.
Gordon
January 12th, 2010
6:50 am
I hope we hire someone soon. There are too many people looking for DC’s (Dolphins, UGA, Florida, Florida State, Texas Tech).
jacket3
January 12th, 2010
7:07 am
Never under estimate DRad….he did hire CPJ right? They will do an extensive search and find the best match…count on it.
Scrap
January 12th, 2010
7:13 am
Who ever we hire, and when ever we hire him, we’ll be in better shape on that side of the ball next season. If we’re not, we will go out and hire another one. Rest assured CPJ will not be satisfied with anything less than improvement. I like where the program is headed. I suspected a while back Womack would be gone at season’s end. Now he is gone, and we will continue to move in the right direction.
YellowJacketFalcon
January 12th, 2010
7:33 am
Since I’ve heard this rumor of Groh, I’ve not been all that excited. To run a 3-4 style defense you MUST have some big d-line guys to run it effectively. It’d be a while before we could get the recruits to do that. Don’t think he is the right fit. Hopefully CPJ finds someone that is.
Cherokee
January 12th, 2010
7:34 am
Gordon…. I think Florida and Florida State both have already hired a DC, maybe wrong though.
yellowjacket82
January 12th, 2010
7:48 am
Jeff,
Why not pursue Ted Roof…he could return to his alma mater.
SUN TAN!
January 12th, 2010
8:01 am
If we lose him it ain’t the end of the world. A cardboard cut out will do just as well. It is football, it ain’t the end of the world. UGA losers are jumping out windows and I am loving it!
SUN TAN!
January 12th, 2010
8:02 am
The Ted Roof comment is not good. Go with the cardboard cutout, I have seen that movie before. Thanks.
GT
January 12th, 2010
8:06 am
With Smart we knew the offer was made as we did with a few more candidates, I am not so sure with Groh. I don’t think Johnson was talking to Groh as much about a hire as he was talking to him about advise. These two guys consider each other equals. Groh is a ACC coach that understands Tech since he has played and actually beat them once, the two years Johnson has been there. Who else you going to take advise from, an active coach like Frank Beamer who you are still competing with or the younger and still active coach at Miami. Out of all the teams that have beaten Tech probably the least talented which would make it the best coached is Virginia, with some thought of North Carolina. Virgina beat them at Grant Field. Why not if Groh is so gracious pick his mind before you go off on a defensive hire. I do not think these pro background coaches make good college coaches, they have a different work ethic than a good DC like Smart or Muscamp. In college ball the personel and coaches change all the time, it is a new test every week. With the pros subtle changes happen but quarterbacks usually stay the same year in year out and skims for these quarterbacks stay the same, plus everybody plays everybody so you can really steal ideas from watching film of a small group of equals each week in preparation as oppose to trying to figure out how a Furman football defense relates to your game plan.
Paddy
January 12th, 2010
8:07 am
Gordon, I believe Fla St hired a DC a couple weeks ago. Last name Stoops.
Big Al
January 12th, 2010
8:14 am
Of course Sonny would not place a bet on the big bad tech boys. First of all he is a UGA grad. Secondly he knows how pititful the acc is in general and tech is specifically. Why try to back a loser?
Jason
January 12th, 2010
8:16 am
I don’t see an Al Groh rejection as a slap in the face. I don’t believe that Johnson fired Womack only because he thought he had Groh in the bag. I think he fired Womack because Womack wasn’t getting the job done. So whether Groh accepts the job or not, Johnson wanted a better coordinator and someone who would change to a 3-4 system. If Groh’s the guy, then great, but if not Johnson will find someone to put the system he wants in place.
Jason
January 12th, 2010
8:20 am
And there is no way we as Tech fans want Ted Roof back. Don’t you remember how terrible the defense was during Ted Roof’s days? The offense was incredible with Hamilton/Godsey, but our defense also gave up lots of points, and was a unit that poorly tackled (especially Jamara Clark).
poopdawg
January 12th, 2010
8:25 am
Escape public humiliation? Richt has nothing to be humiliated about. He offered Smart declined. Jeff how do you escape public humiliation?
German accent
January 12th, 2010
8:28 am
Rodney Garner vill be zee next Tech defensive coordinator.
Tech Guy
January 12th, 2010
8:36 am
Truthfully, I’m not real fired up about Groh as the DC. He is a good defensive coach but I would like to see someone younger in that position. At his age, how much longer does and will he want to coach.
ramblingbuzz
January 12th, 2010
8:40 am
I don’t about GT’s next DC, but I predict Richt will hire Chuck Amato within the week. Richt and Amato are tight. Let’s see how the doggies like that.
Jeff Schultz
January 12th, 2010
8:42 am
Supersize that order — I hadn’t heard that at all. I kinda think all of those governor bets are pretty lame. But if it’s true that Perdue avoided the bet just because of his Georgia allegiances, that’s even more lame.
Jeff Schultz
January 12th, 2010
8:44 am
Zzzzzzz- — Yes, Johnson is keeping this quiet. And you might be right about Crennel. For the record, I’ve always thought (and wrote) Tech had a better chance getting Groh than Georgia getting Smart. Always believed in the end Bama would come up in money and Kirby would stay.
Jeff Schultz
January 12th, 2010
8:45 am
YellowJacket — This is Paul Johnson. I don’t think somebody’s alma mater being Tech will be a factor at all. It will be more people he’s familiar with than the school is familiar with.
Bella Oxmyx
January 12th, 2010
8:45 am
FWIW, I get the impression that GROH is the one pursuing a marriage with GT and Johnson. Building on that, Johnson is the kind of guy who doesn’t wait around from (the time of) a public spotting of Groh at the pre-BCS Bowl practice until this past weekend to “decide” if Groh is the man. Johnson’s also not going to run him off if it gets down to $$$ and GT just can’t afford something north of $500-600k to sign someone else when Groh will work for FREE.
Finances are certainly a consideration of DanRad, even if they really aren’t for Johnson (as in not as important as getting who he wants). I believe Chandler Gailey still gets around $100k per month from GT and he’s been gone for 2 years. The timing with the Dolphins firing isn’t just coincidence…OF COURSE Parcells wants Groh and he’s paved the way for him to end his coaching career under him.
That should say quite alot about Groh to everyone who’s been questioning his abilities/respect/knowledge/etc on these blogs. A Parcells endorsement is hard to come by and actually means something. Obviously it’s not about $$$ for Groh to go to either place, but bet the farm that he DOES end up at either GT or the Dolphins for 2010.
Perhaps it’s CPJ and GT’s superior ability to put a cloak over the hiring process, as opposed to say a CMR and UGAG, who can’t seem to keep what CMR had for breakfast out of the press…..But I just don’t see an ACTIVE pursuit of Groh by CPJ. Another thing is I don’t think Groh is the kind of man who would risk embarrassing CPJ, given his recent gushings over what CPJ has done at Tech in only 2 years. So if Parcells was in the background saying, “Be patient Al and I’ll pave the way for you to return” — NOT unreasonable — then Groh would disclose this to CPJ to avoid a duplication of “Richt’s Travelin Show”.
I just think CPJ will eventually hire someone from his past. He took a chance on Wommack, never having met him before interviewing him, and that obviosuly didn’t work out too well….This time he gets a PROVEN commodity, as in someone who has already worked on D before — either for him or with him. There’s a TON or redshirted talent on Tech’s D and a signing class of even MORE D talent coming onboard. CPJ doesn’t want a repeat of the Defensive Calamities last year.
So, Johnson hires someone he’s worked with before, unless Groh “rejects” Parcells for the GT job and heavily lobbies for the GT job in a very public way…..And I don’t see that happening. However, I DO expect a hiring announcement BEFORE THE WEEK IS OUT, while Richt reloads and shoots another blank….
Jeff Schultz
January 12th, 2010
8:46 am
Poopdawg — You don’t think there’s public humiliation in being rejected by three high profile candidates?
Dolfan
January 12th, 2010
8:51 am
After the last 3-4 games of the year,Parcells had no choice but to get rid of Paul P..Even though it seemed like they were in all of these games they gave up way to many first half points before making half time adjustments.Since Groh goes way back with Parcells it would seem a logical choice.Last week when their linebacker coach Edwards took the Florida DC job it forced Parcells to make a move..There are plenty of good DC coordinators out there though so maybe Tech will land a good one.
buzz is wiser
January 12th, 2010
9:01 am
Tech should do well in its attempt to land a DC. It seems like CPJ wants to move to the 3-4. A co-worker who is a parent of one of the defensive players told me they wanted to do it last year. Initially I was concerned that we didn’t have the personnel to run a 3-4 but T.J. Barnes although he wasn’t as tough on the run as his size would say, 330ish he is young, and said to not have a mean bone in his body. Him couple with highly touted redshirt freshmen J.C. Lanier who is also 330ish should provide the much needed “space-eaters” necessary to run the 3-4 and let the LB’s run to the ball. I think Izzan Cross would make a great outside linebacker in the 3-4.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
9:10 am
Jeff, I realize the point here is for you to create controversy and get folks all stirred up, but in the case of UGA you’re talking Bud Foster, Kirby Smart, and John Chavis. These are high dollar big dogs. UGA can go after this type of top notch coach and the schools they work for can afford to throw out the bucks to keep them. If a school just let’s a guy go he probably wasn’t that valuable to begin with. In Tech’s case they can’t even go after those guys. They have absolutely nothing to offer them. They can’t even pay them. Groh was at the top of the list because he is a decent coach that they wouldn’t have to pay much for. At the end of this process UGA will get a top notch DC. Tech will be shopping at he Thrift Store. You want to talk humiliation? You’d really see it if Tech tried to get a Foster, a Smart, or a Chavis. But you won’t see that now will you Jeff?
PMC
January 12th, 2010
9:11 am
Groh was making 4.33 a year to do THAT at VA? Really?
Yikes.
buzz is wiser
January 12th, 2010
9:14 am
PMC, no he was making that annually. That’s Mack Brown/Nick Saben money. Thats probably what was left on his contract.
Cecil34
January 12th, 2010
9:21 am
I think there is no question that if GT wants to run a 3/4 then they are going to have to get some serious “meat” on the d-line, like that Cody fella at Alabama.
And if they can do that, then they have to have for it to work, two outside linebackers like DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer of Dallas.
Does GT have these type players there now or have these type players been recruited and are coming?
What is the status of their recruits as far as bringing this “meat”?
Navigator
January 12th, 2010
9:21 am
I immediately go after Paul Pasqualani, this guy is a heck of a defensive coach. As usual Bill Parcells needs someone (other than himself) to blame for this season. Pasqualani didn’t get stupid overnight, as last year’s defense was terrific, and he would bring a pro perspective to making changes on the fly with the defense, something Womack couldn’t do. Come PJohnson, move on this one before UGA or someone else does.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
9:22 am
If another newspaper offers you a job and the AJC promptly matches the offer and even sweetens the deal as we know happened in the case of Foster with that high dollar annuity, what do you do Jeff? Unless you hate your present employer you probably stay. Does that mean the other employer was humiliated? What say you Jeff? That other employer probably moves right along and will in the end get what they want.
Ramblin' Wreck
January 12th, 2010
9:27 am
Please do not compare or associate Tech with the sad state of affairs at the Cess Pool.
Cess pool:
Getting close to 2 months of ineptitude.
Three strikes.
Outrageous salaries being turned down because no one wants to go there.
Sinking ship
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 12th, 2010
9:30 am
It now sounds like Crennel will end up at KC instead of Miami which is contrary to what I stated earlier. That would open the door for Groh to Miami. I still think Johnson has a number of candidates he thinks could get the job done but Groh is for whatever reason the only one people are talking about (probably because he was sighted at the pre-Orange Bowl practice and it caught legs from there).
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
9:30 am
You don’t even have walking around sense do you Ramblin’ Wreck? You can only wish those 3 guys would even take a call from Georgia Tech. In the end see what UGA gets and what GT gets. At the end of this process GT will fall even farther behind their owners.
PMC
January 12th, 2010
9:30 am
buzz, thanks for the clairification. That’s a huge chunk of change still even if they do have a large endowment.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
9:31 am
And because he comes cheap Zzzzzzzzzzz.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 12th, 2010
9:36 am
PragmaticMan: Good point.
Cherokee
January 12th, 2010
9:37 am
Ramblin’ Wreck …I would rather be a part of the so called “sinking ship” that the hell hole on North Avenue, anyone get mugged last night. UGA still owns Tech
Willie Martinez
January 12th, 2010
9:37 am
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Willie Martinez
January 12th, 2010
9:39 am
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collegeballfan
January 12th, 2010
9:43 am
Remember guys, Groh says he called Johnson, Johnson did not call him.
He called Johnson because he says he was intrigued by what Johnson had accomplished in two years.
Johnson is at the coaches meeting for a reason. To interview candidates
for two coaching vacancies. Do not be surprised if the new DC is a promotion from the existing staff.
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I can not imagine what the problem is at UGA re a coaching hire. Richt needs to replace 3 coaches. Is there no one on the existing staff that
can be promoted to DC? I realize promoting Garner would cost Richt his recruiting coordinator, but RCs are easier to find than DCs.
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But I can guarantee one thing. Whoever UGA hires will be trashed by the braindeads at GT and whoever GT hires will be trashed by the braindeads at UGA. Folks of low intelligence are very predictable.
That is the “first law of politics”, and it applies to sports.
Cherokee
January 12th, 2010
9:45 am
collegeballfan …well said
BobinBuford
January 12th, 2010
9:55 am
As for Al Groh recruiting, the recruiting is done by Giff Smith. Which seems to be going pretty well, since 9 of the AJC Top 50 are committed to Tech.
So much for Tech not being able to get the “big” recruits.
Paul's Johnson
January 12th, 2010
10:04 am
Boy, is it ever tough times for d-coordinators all over! CPJ will find his guy. And there won’t be all this trial balloon business going on in Muttville. CPJ’s idea is to improve his program and win football games. Suntan’s has a vague idea of doing that, too, but placating his detractors with a big name is his primary goal.
js
January 12th, 2010
10:08 am
I think you Ugay fans misunderstand the public humiliation comment. The humiliation is that you think you could hire away Virginia Tech, LSU, Dallas Cowboys and Bama’s (who did I leave out?) DC for a lateral move to Ugay. The reality is that it’s not a lateral move, but a move down in the pecking order for a coach who has lost his luster (not his spray on tan though). Bama, Florida and LSU run the SEC and the rest of you (KY, SC, TN, Auburn, and Ugay) fight for the fourth place bowl. Those 3 teams have been great the last 10 years or so, but the middle of the SEC is weak. What is Ugay’s record against the big 3 the last 8-10 years? The more you offer name coach’s the brinks truck to move from a better job, the more public humiliation you receive.
DILLIGAF
January 12th, 2010
10:08 am
I, for one don’t feel that UGA and CMR have not been publicly humiiated for targeting three high profile DC’s.
CMR contacted Bud Foster, who I have wanted for awhile. Foster consistently has one of the most successful defenses in the country, looka t his record and stats for the last decade. Foster saw the opportunity to get a significant raise and took advantage of it. Foster has no plans to laeve VT and his current situation.
Chavis also was contacted and did the same thing. Chavis inherited a decent defense with some good talent at LSU and had them playing better this yaer than last. Chavis is happy there and was not looking to make a move. I am glad that Chavis turned down the offer because he would not be a good fit for UGA’s program.
Smart ultimately made a decision to stay and played his cards right by upping the ante for his services resulting in a huge payday making him the 3rd highest paid assistant coach in the country. I’m not sure that Kirby wouls have been the right guy either.
Also, with all the talk about the lenght of this search, all three of these guys were coaching their teams in Bowl games.
I just wonder if 750K would have lured Foster away.
UGA85′
dawgfan
January 12th, 2010
10:12 am
Tech fans, have you ever noticed how neither Schultz nor Bradley can write about Tech without some comparison or reference to UGA? Have you ever noticed that when they write about UGA that Tech gets nary a mention? If I were you I would be offended. Since when should the ACC. Champion be judged by an 8-5 SEC team?
Now tell me Tech fans, who wears the pants in this relationship?
30-24. If Willie can get it done ANYBODY can get it done. That’s all I know.
TommyP
January 12th, 2010
10:13 am
With what I’ve been reading in this article and Mr. Bradley’s, the only thing I can assume at this point is the AJC has made “page hits” your #1 goal.
To be turned down by Bud Foster, John Chavis and Kirby Smart is unfortunate for Georgia but in no means “humiliating.”
Richt said that he would not rush into the hire and would make sure he got the right guy. He offered 3 of the best in the business and all three felt it was in their best interests to stay where they were very happy (and also given the raise of a lifetime).
If Richt hired, say, Dave Wommack at this point, that would be humiliating.
As a Bulldog alum I’m disappointed but by no means has this been humiliating. I’m glad Richt shot for 3 of the best in college football. Now let’s go to the next tier and hire someone within the week to focus on recruiting.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
10:16 am
If you don’t try you don’t get js. DUH!!!!
TommyP
January 12th, 2010
10:18 am
And what’s amusing is that other journalists around the South are now referencing this infatuation by Schultz and Bradley to keep bashing Richt, Georgia and the search.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
10:19 am
Tech can’t even shoot that high. Now that’s almost as humiliating as having to beg for $1000.00 to get the Wreck to Miami and then getting humiliated on the field as well. Tech just wishes they had UGA’s problems.
Obvious
January 12th, 2010
10:22 am
PragmaticMan
If you truly believe that UGA “run this state” and as you stated “At the end of this process GT will fall even farther behind their owners [UGA],” then we have UGA to blame for what you perceive is a bad state of affairs at Tech. Using your own pathetic logic UGA is the one that has failed here since you are the “owners” and you “run this state.” Of course, everyone knows that you don’t own Tech and you don’t run anything in the state; you stupid mutts only wish that you did. Why don’t you worry about your “septic tank” as Saban put it over in Athens for a change; we don’t want or need your help. Why? Because you’re an arrogant idiot and we have nothing to learn from you or other moronic Dawg fans like you. Please remember that you are just a fan, nothing more than that. You don’t run anything in these universities and you have no say in what UGA or Tech does. Your opinion means absolutely zero in reality. No one will be contacting you for your opinion either so no need to wait by the cell phone for CMR or anyone else to call you. You’re just another dumb mutt fan!
Adam
January 12th, 2010
10:26 am
Richt aimed high and took some calculated risks. It didn’t work. He knew going in that it may not work. He’ll get someone perfectly capable to do the job (probably from the NFL) and move on.
If he hadn’t aimed high Schultz would write some smug, and not at all funny, column about how he didn’t aim high. Bradley would write a column about how Richt doesn’t want to win championships and is content with 10 win seasons. These clowns are so predictable you can almost write their columns before they do.
What has happened to the AJC? I guess they won though. My buttons have been pushed.
What a joke.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
10:31 am
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
9:10 am
“Jeff, I realize the point here is for you to create controversy and get folks all stirred up, but in the case of UGA you’re talking Bud Foster, Kirby Smart, and John Chavis. These are high dollar big dogs. UGA can go after this type of top notch coach and the schools they work for can afford to throw out the bucks to keep them. If a school just let’s a guy go he probably wasn’t that valuable to begin with. In Tech’s case they can’t even go after those guys. They have absolutely nothing to offer them. They can’t even pay them.”
Your argument (which seems to be that UGAG can go after top-tier coaching talent and get results, but GT can’t) would make sense IF UGAG would’ve actually SIGNED one of these guys, which they obviously didn’t. So WHY is it better to throw big money at 3 high profile candidates and be REJECTED 3 times instead of setting your sights a little lower and actually HIRING a decent DC and getting on with your business? And while GT does have to watch the $$$, there is no truth in saying “they can’t even pay them.” Of course GT can AFFORD to pay a DC as much as UGAG has offered ANY of the above candidates…But that opens up a huge can of worms requiring increases at every level of the coaching structure as a ripple effect ensues.
Since Bowden’s gone, CPJ is the highest paid HC in the ACC and that salary is paid by GT, not “some other school that can afford it”. The MISTAKE was publicly chasing those 3 candidates and throwing everything they could at them — And being publicly DENIED 3 times in a row…Even your “mighty” UGAG couldn’t offer those candidates ANYTHING ELSE to get them to go to Athens. I mean, you even got REJECTED by a former Player and Alum after promising him the moon and stars…..That’s ABYSMAL performance and without ANY possible positive spin…
dadgumitpaw
January 12th, 2010
10:31 am
Hey Cherokee,,,if collegeballfan said it so well concerning the trashing by the ‘braindeads’ at both GT and UGA….what does that say about you?
Cherokee
January 12th, 2010
10:35 am
js….UGA is 3-1 against Bama, 3-3 against LSU and 2-7 against Florida and remember they are 7-2 against Tech and rule the State.
SOUTH GA DAWG FAN
January 12th, 2010
10:35 am
Luther van dam has accepted the DC position at georgia and is putting his staff together . Story just Broke
Obvious
January 12th, 2010
10:40 am
Cherokee,
Using your stupid mutt logic Kentucky rules this state and so does Tennessee, who embarrassed your team two of the last three years. Oh, and you might have heard of a team called Florida: 7 of 9, 17 of the last 20 and 41-17… so I suppose they own this state too. Do they not even teach logic at UGA or did you simply not go to college? If you did, here’s a novel idea: next time go to a college where you can actually get an education. Stupid mutt. You embarrass your school.
Adam
January 12th, 2010
10:41 am
Obvious, we don’t own Tech? 8 outta the last 9 and we don’t own you? What else are we supposed to do to own you? That is not a rhetorical question. I’d like an answer.
I digress. Let’s get one thing straight right now about all this DC business Techies. Whoever you hire we could have him if we wanted him. Why you ask? Oh, I’ve got about 700,000 reasons why. Does your entire football program even make 700 Grand in a year? So let’s not go acting all high and mighty Tech fans. We don’t want anybody that you’ll be hiring. If we did they would be on our sideline next year wearing red and black.
30-24.
Asheville Dawg
January 12th, 2010
10:46 am
Doesn’t anyone want to be a DC at a university in the state of Georgia? Hey, we will offer bushels of money, and a multi- year contract. Job requires passion and immediate success.
Groh, you are 65 and making $4.33 million over the next two years. Enjoy retirement.
Soon UGA will hire someone, I am sure. Later or sooner someone will take UGA job. Oh darn, I forgot to click my heels together when I say that. Or was it my toes?
4.5 years and g-o-n-e
January 12th, 2010
10:47 am
At tech, the tenure for coaches over the last 43 years is about 4.5 years. I would not count on much beyond that and CPJ is in his third season upcoming. They either QUIT for a BIB BOY JOB or GET FIRED at the flats.
He is looking to make his mark, then jump ship for bigger pastures like a Michigan job or one other
( Florida or Bama) that will open up. With Bama and Florida, sooner rather than later is the direction.
We are seeing some wild things this season and it prvoes that things change often and rapidly in the NCAA. Tech? CPJ is already looking to bolt for a Big BOY league and he knows that w.o a defense he will never be viewed as ready for a quality, big boy coaching job.
The numbers are irrefutable for Tech.
Cherokee
January 12th, 2010
10:47 am
Obvious….. One thing for sure CMR has his worst team since he has been here and he still manages to beat TECH’s best team since 1990. And yes Florida has beaten UGA 7 of the last 9 and 17 of 20 I think I mention that and that needs to be fixed.Stupid Nerd!!
Foothills football fan
January 12th, 2010
10:50 am
Pragmatic, it’s cheeper to stuff a dog in a crate than transport a car. Tech wishes it had UGAG problems? YOUR own fans peeing in the library and making YOUR campus look like a third world country on game day…sure , we want some of that!
dawgfan
January 12th, 2010
10:53 am
Okay Tech fans, we are humiliated, degraded, and dehumanized because Foster, Chavis, and Smart turned us down. Are you happy now? Where are you going with this?
I’ll tell you where I’m going. Its the same place I always go when a Techie starts running his mouth. Its called the SCOREBOARD. Maybe you’ve heard of it?
Slick Willie 30 Paul Johnson 24.
AMG
January 12th, 2010
10:53 am
I hope we get Groh, 65 is not that old these days and he is more than well qualified to coach a defense in the ACC. I think he is a perfect fit, but that may not be true to the man that matters most, CPJ.
Not Disappointed
January 12th, 2010
10:53 am
Jeff, this is too much to think about so early in the morning. Jeff you beginning to sound like the “Grim Reaper.” At this rate Ga Tech will recieve “The Great Pumkin” (Charlie Brown. You remember!) before getting a decent DC, or maybe I’m just being a schmuck. Either way, we need a decent DC!
Rambling Wreck out…….
dc
January 12th, 2010
10:54 am
David Pollack’s credibility= ZERO
GT Alum
January 12th, 2010
10:55 am
At least us Techies are realistic when it comes to our open DC position. Its funny that most UGA fans are surprised by Kirby Smart staying at Alabama. Its time to ratchet down expectations Mutts.
Ted Striker
January 12th, 2010
10:56 am
Assuming Supersize’s story about Purdue is true — [ha! leap of faith!!! cows fly!!! Megan Fox wants me!!! Jack Bauer fears me!!!] — I can’t really fault Purdue.
I mean, the guy is Sonny Purdue. He was probably praying for rain when the call came through. Or praying for the rain to stop. Whatever, whichever. You never know with that guy.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
10:57 am
dawgfan, you forgot:
“4-4 in SEC, Kentucky, SHREVEPORT — WE ARE GEORGIA FOOTBALL!!”
“UGA Football — Proudly leading the nation in AVERAGE ARRESTS PER PLAYER for 5 consecutive years now!”
Which of these are you most proud of?
dc
January 12th, 2010
10:58 am
The reason this MAY be humiliating to UGA fans is because so many of you were saying “Smart’s coming home”, Book it”, “it’s a done deal”. Sometimes it’s your overconfidence that gets you ridiculed.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
11:02 am
Jean claude van damme has accepted the DC position at georgia and is putting his staff together. Story just Broke.
SOUTH GA DAWG FAN
January 12th, 2010
11:03 am
ok smart is not an option , does anyone think CMR will wait until the cowboys are done if grantham is the next option , and whoever the next option is will they think they should get the same money that Smart was offered ,it could be another sticking point in the developing soap opera,
SOUTH GA DAWG FAN
January 12th, 2010
11:05 am
jean claude would be even better it would be hard to score on his D with all the broke limbs and other injuries.
Al Groh
January 12th, 2010
11:06 am
I am not coming to GT nor Miami. I have decided to accept the position of Road Manager for my son Dave’s band, The Foo Fighters. Just think, tomorrow night, I’ll be filthy drunk, lying in the floor of some 5 star hotel, digging myself out from under a pile of naked, high priced hookers.
Wait a minute, I was just informed that Dave Grohl is not my son. Nevermind.
dawgfan
January 12th, 2010
11:06 am
GT Alum, that will never happen. UGA football will always shoot for the stars. Always has and always will. That’s the difference between us and you. It has nothing to do with SAT scores or calculus. We dare to dream and you make excuses for yourselves. As a native Atlantan, it turned me off to Tech athletics a long time ago. I cannot support such a loser mentality.
So enjoy your view from the cheapseats Techies. We may never win it all but we’ll die trying. Sure beats the heck out of being a coward Techie hiding behind every excuse imaginable when your half azzed plan for success doesn’t work.
Alabama Jack
January 12th, 2010
11:09 am
In CPJ we trust.
Jewey Boy
January 12th, 2010
11:26 am
Everyone knows Schultz hates and mocks CMR because of CMR’s faith.
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
11:34 am
The fact that Groh was at a GT practice in December makes is almost a certainty that Groh has been interested in this job for a while. The Miami job though would also be a good fit for him. I hope he chooses Tech but it’s understandable if he takes the Miami job given his past associations. I think we’ll probably hear something soon, maybe tomorrow. As of this morning, Groh is still saying he hasn’t been contacted by Miami and his main goal is winning. Remember too, that Parcells is executive VP of Miami not a coach. So how much would they really be working together? Whatever happens, I can’t help but notice the lack of leaks and rumors that plagued the attempt to “Get Smart”
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
11:35 am
Hey boy, that’s a pretty vile comment.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
11:44 am
Ted Striker, why would I lie or make up a story about something like that? I heard it on NPR Sunday morning. As I said in my original post, they did not identify the bowl game or the governor, so it is entirely possible that it was the Iowa State bowl game and the governor of whichever state has the school that played Iowa State. I simply asked Jeff if he had heard anything about it. I also asked, via email, an old roomie of mine who lives in Iowa. He had not heard anything about it, but his wife had, and she THOUGHT it was the Orange Bowl and Purdue. Like Jeff said (and thanks, Jeff, for your reply), those bets are pretty silly, but to TOTALLY IGNORE one is disgraceful. What does that say to the governor of Iowa? It tells him that for whatever reason, the governor who ignored him is rude and a poor sport. State governors make these silly bets all the time. If it waa Purdue, and if he had a legitimate reason for not making the bet, then the proper thing for him to do would be to refuse and explain….NOT IGNORE. Since, however, Purdue is very open about his loyalties to UGAG, it was probably a slap in the face both to the Iowa governor AND Ga Tech.
60-39-5 30-24
January 12th, 2010
11:46 am
Enter your comments here
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
11:53 am
dawgfan, you’re living a LIE.
GT DID shoot for the stars when it hired Paul Johnson and the RESULTS speak for themselves. He completely overhauled the offense and overcame a struggling DC and STILL posted a 20-7 (.741) record in his first 2 years at a school that (according to many of you here) isn’t supposed to win because of a lack of talent, half-full stadium, fill in the blank….Over the same 2 years, CMR is 18-8 (.692). GT won its CONFERENCE this past year while UGAG hasn’t even won its DIVISION since 2005.
So by default, it seems you are indeed supporting a LOSER MENTALITY, huh?
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
12:05 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
11:53 am
Oh, yes, tech certainly did shoot for the stars with Paul Johnson. Why, it was between tech and SMU. SMU? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Even with tough competition like SMU, you were able to convince him to bring the Wing T to tech. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
B Davis
January 12th, 2010
12:06 pm
Understand that CPJ is hiring Mike Ditka.
Richt will be on his 45th candidate when practice starts this year. Candidates 44 and 45 will turn the position down because Richt will not let them use his hairdresser.
Dexter
January 12th, 2010
12:07 pm
um correct me if I’m wrong Jeff, but it was your own column that practically said Groh was a done deal at GT..so maybe that is where Tech fans got the idea..
hell no
January 12th, 2010
12:11 pm
everytime GT has an opening for head coach or DC, here comes someone promoting Andy McCollum on here…whoever that is how bout shutting the hell up…no one knows him or cares and if they want to know him, he had 4 straight losing seasons at MTSU and was fired, now a loser linebacker coach at N C loserville State, grew up in Ga cheering for UGA(that really makes you want him..NOT)he can go back to Austin Peay if they would even have him which I doubt
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
12:14 pm
Here ya go striker.
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/01/05/sonny-perdue-ignores-offer-of-a-tech-iowa-wager/
http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/article_d713ec8c-f9a3-11de-9b16-001cc4c03286.html
Perdue was very rude and owes Iowa and GT an apology and explanation. No excuse for ignoring a friendly gesture.
BigTimeTECHFan
January 12th, 2010
12:20 pm
I’m Tech fan:
1. Groh – would be nice pickup but I don’t think it’s going to happen but it could be a good move, if anybody turns this defense around they will make a big name for themselves.
2. For same reason I think it was dumb for Kirby Smart to turn down UGA job, Question is out there if Saban should get all the credit for how good Bama’s D is, If he had confidence in his abilities he could have seen:
UGA can get just as good of talent as Bama
If UGA D plays well, and they are SEC contenders again he gets all the credit, staying at Bama the questions on him are still out there. Then he would be inline for any big time program’s head coach opening in a year. At Bama he will get offers but not as big as he would have after turning around UGA’s D.
3. It would have been dumb for UGA not to look at Smart, he is Georgia alumni, so he decided to stay at Bama not a big deal but not fault of UGA.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
12:21 pm
The UGALY Truth Tech’s athletic department is awash in a sea of red ink. And no they can’t afford a Foster, a Smart, or a Chavis. Spin it any way you want to dumbazz. GT can’t even pay the ante to get in the game when it comes to coaches like that. And so what if PJ is one of the highest paid coaches in the ACC. Just another case of the tallest midget. Watch what happens. UGA will get a much better DC than GT will. Tech is Tech. You are not a desired destination. And when it’s all said and done UGA just pulls farther ahead of our little retarded brother GT.
Rainy night in Ga.
January 12th, 2010
12:21 pm
Careful with your comments Ugag fans….Ill punch you in the face!!!!:-)
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:40 pm
Pragmatic, UGAG can’t even pull ahead of it’s “brothers” in Florida, Tennessee, or (OMG) Kentucky. You are irrelevant in the SEC now, and it’s not going to change, no matter how big the bucks you shell out for a new DC.
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
12:40 pm
CPJ’s 2 bowl performances pretty aptly sums up GT’s place in the college football universe. Big fish little pond. And now that GT’s best chance to be taller has passed them by. Oh well. In 2010 GT will be no better than 4th in the ACC. THE ACC! LMAO! To make things even worse, VT and Miami are in GT’s division. My condolences nats.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:47 pm
Pragmatic, get back to us when UGAG beats Florida and Tennessee on anywhere near a consistent basis. Until then, STFU
PragmaticMan
January 12th, 2010
12:48 pm
30-24 Supersize. Some things never change. No matter what UGA’s place in the SEC, they will still own you minor leaguers over on N. Avenue.
Cindy
January 12th, 2010
12:53 pm
The ACC champions lose to a 5 loss UGA then get totally shut down by Iowa. Going back to LSU and 38-3 (2 bowls 62-17) even a girl knows that GT can’t hack it outside the ACC.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:56 pm
And UGAG can’t hack it inside the SEC
Tim
January 12th, 2010
12:58 pm
Jeff – Please show me where we sent out 3 offers and each was rejected. I’d love to see that. All I have heard, and anyone has confirmed, was that CMR was gauging interest out there, nothing more than preliminary talks. The only offer that was ever extended, was to Smart. Urban did the same thing with Foster, and Nix (and possibly others) and yet, he isn’t being crucified like you and the rest of the AJC is doing to Richt.
Supersize that order, mutt – Based on your handle, you fit what I picture as the stereotypical GT fan. You obviously eat out at fast food places all the time since you got the lingo down pat. So, overweight. You eat at places like that often, so income must be an issue. So, you live in your Mom’s basement.
It’s funny when GT people get on to UGA people for not beating Florida and Tennessee, because that’s all they can hang their hat on. So, why don’t you take your own advice and get back to us when you can beat UGA on a consistent basis. Oh, and in case you forgot, 8 out of 9!!!! We run this state!
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
1:03 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
12:47 pm
Supersize, get back to us when teac beats UGA on anywhere near a consistent basis. Until then, STFU.
Sound familiar? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
1:03 pm
For all you Dawg fans — you talk sooooo much about how weak the ACC is and the first person you try to hire as your new DC is the DC of an ACC team — what does that tell ya? Sorry, you don’t have the sense to figure that one out!! Now, you all want to count only the recent records with Florida and forget the past — but, don’t seem to use the same criteria for the Tech-UGAG games. We understand your domination when CG was the Coach, even though he had plenty of chances to beat you and just didn’t know how (and we all know Reggie Ball was your best player). But, counting the recent records, since CPJ came to Tech, he’s 1-1 and the big win against one of your best teams in the last two decades (I believe ranked Pre-Season No. 1) and at your home field. Yeah, Tech lost to one of your poor teams, but just like you claim from the previous year, injuries played an important role in that game as did too much media hype about how good Tech really is. The Tech players watched your team drop a 20-6 halftime lead to Kentucky at home and thought they could easily whip the little Pups — sadly they were wrong, but for all your great play in the game, it still came down to the last minute of the game and a drive that Tech failed to capitalize on — not the vaunted Georgia defense doing anything to stop the drive. Sorry, but I’d be embarrassed if my school and team offered the job with a huge salary and benefits to three top DCs and they all turned it down. They don’t want to go to UGAG land because of their chances for success — it ain’t gonna happen in the SEC for UGAG for many, many years to come. As for dominating Tech – CPJ has different plans and a better idea about that. You didn’t stop his offense the first time and you didn’t stop it the last time. So, go find a DC who can stop the option and then you can trash his offense. Trying to use logic with UGAG fans is an exercise in futility (did you understand that?)!
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
1:06 pm
Cindy
January 12th, 2010
12:53 pm
Not only that, but the other A She She championship game participant got beat the previous week by a 5 loss South Carolina team.
AND…..the juggernaut tech offense has scored a total of 10 points in two bowl games.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Ted Striker
January 12th, 2010
1:06 pm
Ah, Supersize, I was just funning with you. Let’s have a drink. Or two. Or seven.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
1:09 pm
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
1:03 pm
30-24. Do you have the sense to figure that one out? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Cindy
January 12th, 2010
1:10 pm
But they still beat Tech don’t they Supersize that order, mutt. In fact, they OWN Tech.
DavisBuzz
January 12th, 2010
1:11 pm
What ever happened to the former Southern Mississippi Head Coach – Jeff Bower… great Defensive mind..! I do not bebeive he is coaching and would be a great choice.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
1:14 pm
Forget UGA csrapress, it’s those 2 bowl games that illustrates just how bad the ACC is and just how overrated GT was. What is it. 2 games..them 62…you 17. That’s pretty bad anyway you try to spin it. In fact, you can’t spin something that sorry.
Poindexter Jugdish
January 12th, 2010
1:14 pm
There you go Schultzie, you have told everybody how much money Al has. Now, all those bad people are going to be circling the Tech campus like buzzards waiting to wax poor Al for the dimes in his loafers.
VolPride
January 12th, 2010
1:17 pm
It’s really hard for me to understand why UGA (through their comments on these blogs) consistently measures themselves against GT. If UGA wants to be a top notch program shouldn’t you be gauging your success against Alabama and FL?
It would be like UT comparing themselves to KY, who we’ve beat 20 something straight times. In fact, the Kiffin family views our competition as those teams who consistently finish in the top 5.
Elevate your goals and your program will improve.
Navigator
January 12th, 2010
1:18 pm
It’s always amazing to me how infantile the posters are for Georgia and Tech. We started out talking about possible Tech Defensive coach, and within minutes, it degrades into massive negative post between to two groups of weenies that obviously can’t keep theirs to themselves. Grow up creeps and take your name calling somewhere where it’s appreciated, and allow those that care to discuss what’s happening. Tech guys you started this crap last year posting the stupid score, and now Georgia guys retaliated this year. I know this is hard for all of you to believe, but none of you had anything to do with who won, because none of you play. Get a life folks, writing this crap on the blogs doesn’t make your life any different, just irritates those that actually like to discuss what’s happening football. Stop being losers, and make your own life better.
Tim
January 12th, 2010
1:22 pm
csrapress – you make no sense. Just because a conference is weak, doesn’t mean there isn’t a good team or 2. Ask any rational UGA or college football fan, and they’ll tell you VaTech is legit. Foster is easily one of the top 3 in all of College football. He’s been a VT 20+ years, no way he was going to leave. But, why not ask? Notice we didn’t go after any other coaches from the ACC.
As for your other statement, we actually only prefer to look at the past against Florida. We owned them prior to the 80’s similar to what they’re doing now. So, again, you make zero sense. Fact of the matter is, whether you look back the last 10 years or the last 100 years, it all boils down to the same thing. We own you. It’s what like 60-39-5 overall?
You say you’d be embarrassed if GT offered the top 3 DC’s and got turned down? You do understand why you didn’t offer, right? Because they wouldn’t even entertain the thought. Uga and GT are on 2 totally different levels. Who would, other than 70 year olds who just got fired?
Congrats on being 1-1 against us. I hope the next decade works out better than the last. I actually do hope you guys field better teams, it makes the rivalry fun again. Best of luck! Just remember, the best you guys had still couldn’t beat the worst we had. And we’re not the ones who just lost 4 players to the NFL early. Look how well that worked out for us last year. We run this state!
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
1:30 pm
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
12:05 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
11:53 am
Oh, yes, tech certainly did shoot for the stars with Paul Johnson. Why, it was between tech and SMU. SMU?
SMU got the best end of that deal didn’t they Grinch? They got a real football coach in June Jones. Tech got a snake oil salesman. June Jones has more football knowledge in his little finger than Paul Johnson has in his whole body.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:31 pm
SHREVEPORT…..Can a girl figure that one out, Cindy?
Kirk Ferentz
January 12th, 2010
1:32 pm
Hey, Coach here chiming in. I just wanted to tip my hat to Wake Forrest again for coming out and playing such a good game against my Hawkeyes in the Orange Bowl.
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
1:32 pm
It just goes to show you can’t teach an old dawg new tricks. You trash the ACC, but your first choice for a new DC is a DC with an ACC team? Tech’s bowl games have been bad, no doubt, but their games with UGAG have been 1-1 by only a few points against a Pre-Season No. 1 team and a Pre-Season No. 13 team — not too bad for a team picked to win only three games in the first year under CPJ — dead last in the ACC (oh, they tied for ACC Coastal Division Champs and whipped ya in Athens that year 45-42 after spotting ya 16 points at the half and only completed one pass for 19 yards) and to finish third and fourth in the ACC in his second year (they won the ACC and lost to you by six in Atlanta). Oh, and how did ya’ll fare against a terrible Big 12 Team in the first half of the Indepndence Bowl? Heck, most of your points came from their special teams mistakes. Yeah, you won 30-24 and you ran the ball up and down the field in Atlanta, but your little dawg tails were tucked and sucked in until that last fourth down pass fell incomplete. This is just the beginning of what’s coming at ya from Tech every year — it ain’t a gimme game anymore. And, what do ya think ya’ll will finish in the SEC next year? Same ole, same ole place — kissing Florida, and maybe Tennessee’s back side. It’s been quite a turn-around in just two years under CPJ. UGAG used to be the team with the 11-3 record, playing in a major bowl, and finishing in the Top 15 with Tech going to a “lesser” bowl, now it’s Tech with the 11-3 record, the Top 15 finish in the polls, and playing in the “Major” bowl. Not too bad for that ole option offense!!! But, you did win the penalty award again this year for major college teams — great coaching!!
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
1:39 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:31 pm
SHREVEPORT…..Can a girl figure that one out, Cindy?
I bet she can figure out 30-24. That makes her a hell of a lot smarter than you now doesn’t it? And by the way. How’d that Orange Bowl work out for you. I heard you got your azz kicked. Is that true?
Sonny Purdue
January 12th, 2010
1:40 pm
I did not make the bet with the Honorable Governor of Iowa because I knew the Techsters would wet the bed in the Bowl which they did. We are in a recession and have better things to spend money on then a guaranteed loser for PR sake. I hope this puts this matter to rest, as you can see we UGA graduates do not bet on sure losers.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
1:42 pm
csrapress maybe if your dumbazz head coach hadn’t started heaving long bombs from 40 yards out with 2 minutes left it could have been 31-30. Obviously either PJ knew he was stopped or he is the dumbest jackazz stalking a sideline. Which one is it csrapress?
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:44 pm
The Grinch, WTH has SMU got to do with ANYTHING here….GT hired Johnson, SMU, Duke etc did NOT.
On the other hand, Fake Bake Richt has been on the road for NEARLY 6 WEEKS with briefcases FULL OF CASH and it was between VT and UGAG: VT won. Then it was between LSU and UGAG: LSU won. Then it was between BAMMER and UGAG: BAMMER won…..You starting to see a TREND here? It’s all about RESPECT…..And right now, UGAG has about as much respect in the college football world as a turd floating around the middle of the SEC that hasn’t quite hit the bottom…..yet.
How about you, Cindy Loo….A girl can recognize when a Head Football Coach is being played like a cheap fiddle EVERYWHERE “Richt’s Marvelous and Amazing Travelin’ Show” stops to try and buy some talent, right?
How about UNRANKED in the final polls of the season…Get that one too?
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
1:44 pm
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
1:30 pm
Did you misunderstand my post or did I misunderstand yours? I was mocking the lunatech that was bragging about how they were shooting for the stars when they got PJ. I was alluding to the fact that the only other school interested in PJ seemed to be SMU, who has been in a funk ever since the death penalty.
I think we’re both of the same page, but the wires may have gotten crossed.
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
1:45 pm
Tim, thanks for your points about Foster. Virginia Tech is legit — so Georgia Tech lost to them by 3 points in Blacksburg last year and beat them in Atlanta this year against Foster’s defense. Anyway, finding a rational dawg fan is next to impossible. You did use to beat Florida regularly, but they have evened that record and it don’t look good for you any time soon in that battle. As for the Tech series, check your records from way back, Tech has won almost as many SEC Championships as Georgia and Tech hasn’t been in the SEC since the mid-1960’s. Your hold on the state is slippin’, slippin’, slippin’ away and you can feel it. I agree, it is better to stick with what’s happening now in college football than to argue over what’s happened. I feel confident CPJ will find the best person to fit his system. I feel confident CMR will fill the position soon, just not with the people he really wants.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:46 pm
The Grinch:
How’s UNRANKED in the final polls feeling about now?
How’s 4 and 4 non-relevant conference play?
What about KENTUCKY….Ring any bells?
Did your 4 X 4 get good mileage on the trip to SHREVEPORT?
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
1:47 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:44 pm
I’ll try to slow it down for you lunatechs. Some poster was bragging about how tech was shooting for the stars when they landed PJ. What I was referring to was the only other programs even interested in PJ was SMU and, as you say, Duke. So in other words, tech is shooting for the stars when they are competing with SMU and DUKE? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Good one. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:49 pm
The Grinch:
Coach Paul Johnson has WON everywhere he’s ever coached…..What part of that do you not understand?
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:53 pm
Bob in Buford:
WE RUN (DC’s AWAY FROM) THIS STATE!!
ROFLMAO……………………….LOLOLOLOLO……….Oh man, too FUNNY!!!
UGAG Defensive Coordinator — THE ONLY JOB NOBODY WANTS IN THIS STATE!!
Even REJECTED by one of your own………
UGAG Football and Bloggers….Providing comic relief for the masses……….
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
1:53 pm
Bob In Buford, you can’t make a simple point without name-calling — cheap trash. Go back and look at the game film, all three passes were to open receivers. Your defense didn’t have them covered. Tech’s quarterback didn’t get the ball there in the right spot at the right time. Using a little football sense here (something you evidently lack) The idea was to get the ball down inside the 10 quickly and force Georgia to use their final time-outs, score, and leave UGAG no time to get into position to kick a field goal to win the game. Ya’ll just keep thinking CPJ and his offense won’t work. Granted, none of us can play the game and don’t have any way to change the outcomes, but he knows what he’s doing and how to get the most out of his players. You won 30-24. The Richt-Johnson series is now 1-1, let’s see how it goes from here!
Mike (original formula)
January 12th, 2010
1:54 pm
I think the funniest thing about the UGA and tech rivalry lately has been Paul Johnson telling tech fans to punch UGA fans in the face. I know I’m a little off topic, but I saw some tech fan threatening to do it a few comments back. Now, I know everyone thinks they’re pretty tough behind a screen, but have any tech fans taken Johnson’s advice and just punched a UGA fan yet? I’m curious. I see the oversize rednecks that show up to our games (I can say it because I am also one of those oversized rednecks). I’ve seen what normally shows up to tech games. I think Johnson may be looking at a different crowd. Either way, I think that is the funniest thing that has come out of the rivalry lately. Good luck finding a new DC. Maybe we can find someone before recruiting ends.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
1:55 pm
Tim, not that it’s really any of your business, but I am retired and living on a very comfortable pension. I seldom eat out, and when I do, it’s certainly not at fast food places. I prefer eating home-cooking, and I eat quite well. I am overweight, but definitely not fat. I guess I do fit the Tech stereotype; I had (before retiring) a very good job as an engineer. Most, but not all, of the UGAG fans who worked at my place of employment worked shift, whereas I and the FEW actual UGAG Grads had “professional” positions, working days only. I choose my moniker on this site because so few mutts who post here show any indication of having received any kind of education and probably do work in fast food joints, or as clerks in places like WalMart. I just figured they would relate to that moniker. You apparently knew exactly what I meant. What does that tell us?
Even though we got beat, CERTAINLY NOT embarassed, and even though it was cold as hell there, I probably enjoyed going to Miami a helluva lot more than those of you did who went to Shreveport. SHREVEPORT??? OMG!!! Is there anything there? I hope you enjoyed it though, if you did go, because you will probably be back there again next year, assuming you have found somebody who wants to be your DC by that time.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
1:57 pm
csrapress, preach it, brother !!! I assume from the “csra” in your name that you’re from somewhere in the Augusta area. Howdy, neighbor!!!
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:58 pm
Bob in Buford:
CPJ a snake oil salesman??? HE HAS A BETTER W-L RECORD IN HIS FIRST 2 YEARS AT GT THAN FAKE BAKE RICHT HAS IN THE PAST 2 YEARS!!!!!
I don’t know what Ol Fake Bake’s selling……But EVERYONE in the college FB world knows there AIN’T NOBODY BUYING….Not even one of your own!
Truly sad and pathetic. ;(
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:59 pm
Uh, sorry Navigator…..Did you say something? I didn’t think so…..
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:00 pm
God vs Richt.
In God’s 2nd year God goes 11-3, wins the ACC, gets his butt kicked in the Orange Bowl and finishes 13th in the land.
In Richt’s 2nd year Richt goes 13-1, wins the SEC, wins the Sugar Bowl and finishes 3rd in the land.
Overall after 2 years God is 20-7 playing in the ACC. Richt was 21-6 playing in the SEC.
As of now God has just been a lot of thunder.
Richt is more like lightning. Richt has won 90 games in 9 years in the toughest league in the land. Richt has finished in the top 10 6 times, won 2 SEC titles and played for 3. He has WON 2 BCS bowls and played in 3. And as we all know. Thunder gets a lot of attention but lightning gets the job done.
Ya’ll can haveGod….We’ll keep Richt.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:00 pm
Grinch, so how many schools were going after Richt, when UGAG hired him? I know he had good credentials and is a good coach, but I don’t think anybody was after him that particular year other than the mutts. That doesn’t mean squat, and it doesn’t mean squat that 3 schools were after CPJ when Tech got him. UGAG got in at the right time and got Richt, and Tech got in at the right time and got CPJ. Right now, however, I bet more Tech fans are happy with CPJ than UGAG fans are happy with Richt. I base that on all the negative comments about Richt I saw posted (and heard) prior to the Tech game.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:03 pm
Supersize, Richt had already turned the Pitt job down when UGA came calling. Richt didn’t have to take the first job that came along.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:05 pm
Bob, I didn’t remember that, but like I said, it doesn’t mean a thing. So he turned down a Big East team, and CPJ turned down SMU and Duke. Big f**ng deal on both counts.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:06 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
1:46 pm
Let me answer your questions one by one, lunatech:
How’s UNRANKED in the final polls feeling about now? Hmmm, about the same as it did when we initially dropped out of the polls during the season.
How’s 4 and 4 non-relevant conference play? Our worst year in over a decade. Not good.
What about KENTUCKY….Ring any bells? Yes, probably the low point of the season. Again, our worst team in over a decade.
Did your 4 X 4 get good mileage on the trip to SHREVEPORT? I don’t own a 4 x 4, and a family death prevented me from attending the game.
Now, let me ask you a few questions:
1. How did it feel to see yourself ranked #13 at the end of the season when you were ranked as high as #7 (before your end of season collapse)?
2. How was it losing 30-24 to what you deem an irrelevant UGA team?
3. How do you feel about your offense which has managed a mere 10 points in two bowl games.
4. Did you actually go to Miami? Were you one of the “fans” who was dressed as an empty seat on the A She She Chumpionship game?
5. How did it feel to get dominated by Iowa? Was it similar to being dominated by UGA?
6. Did temperatures in the 40s in Miami feel much different than temperatures in the 40s in Shreveport?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Pete
January 12th, 2010
2:06 pm
Well, if Parcells is involved you can count Groh out of the Tech job. Anywhere the cancer Parcells rears it’s ugly presence…………..poison. Why anyone would even associate with that bufoon is beyond imagination.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:08 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:00 pm
Gee, supersize, I don’t know how many teams were after Richt. The big difference is you didn’t hear UGA fans bragging AFTER THE FACT that we were “shooting for the stars”. He was relatively unknown. That’s a fact.
Here’s another fact, PJ was such a hot commodity that tech, SMU and Duke were interested. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:08 pm
Ted Striker, I forgot to respond to your last comment. I’ll take you up on those drinks though
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:09 pm
Well, Grinch, what that tells me is that Tech, SMU, and Duke all wanted a winner to rebuild their programs. Is that not what UGAG wanted when they hired Richt? Is that not a good thing?
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:11 pm
It’s also interesting to note that after Duke couldn’t get CPJ, they turned to the SEC for their coach. So who was the hotter commodity there, CPJ or Cutcliffe. SMU turned to June Jones after they couldn’t get CPJ, so who was the hotter commodity there???
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:12 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:09 pm
Think back 2 years ago. Did you envision PJ as “shooting for the stars”? Really?
Not saying he hasn’t done a good job, but talking smack when our first candidate for DC turns us down (he is staying with the NC Crimson Tide) is ridiculous.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:14 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:11 pm
That analogy is like putting Roseanne Barr in a fat farm and ask who’s the hotter commodity? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:15 pm
and that analogy, Grinch, tells me you couldn’t find anything intelligent to say.
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
2:16 pm
CSRA, great posts! You really hit the nail on the head.
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
2:16 pm
Supersize That Order, Mutt, (luv it!), yep, we’re right down the road and have covered college football for over 25 years — Georgia Tech and UGAG. Thanks for the comment, I’m right in there with ya. We certainly don’t get any GT coverage in the Augusta Comical. Ya just can’t talk any sense to a dumb dawg, now can ya? Hope you have a wonderful day and keep tellin’ those UGAG graduates to get your coffee and “Supersize It”!
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
2:17 pm
Bob in Buford:
How often do you find yourself quoting OLD records and accomplishments to help you feel better about your HC?? Pretty often I bet since you just Cntl+C, Cntl+V cut&paste them so quickly!
Here’s a hint: If you find yourself having to quote CAREER type statistics like “Richt has won 90 games in 9 years. Richt has finished in the top 10 6 times, won 2 SEC titles and played for 3. He has WON 2 BCS bowls and played in 3.” then you’ve chug-a-lugged the Kool-Aid, mate.
What you DON’T say is:
Richt was 4-4 in the SEC last year….Richt hasn’t won the SEC since 2005….Richt hasn’t won the SEC East since 2005….Richt took the gang to SHREVEPORT in 2009…..Richt finished the 2009 season UNRANKED.
Sucks to be a Dawg Fan when you can’t even accept the FACTS that your program obviously has PEAKED under Richt and he can’t even find someone willing to jump on the sinking ship in spite of throwing briefcases of CA$H at candidate after candidate…..
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:18 pm
No Grinch, I was agreeing with you. Just saying SMU got the best coach in the end. June Jones is the real deal.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:18 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:15 pm
Your consistent use of “STFU” tells me all I need to know about you. You’re probably some old fart (at least 70) who becomes a 6′6″, 250 lb man of steel on the keyboard. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:19 pm
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:18 pm
Agreed.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:20 pm
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
2:17 pm
And what you DON’T say is UGA’s lackluster football team kicked tech’s butts this year. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Solid Gold Dancer
January 12th, 2010
2:20 pm
Auburn went after CPJ as well. There are many schools who would like to have him. Not for his style offense…….but for his coaching.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:20 pm
csra, you have piqued my curiosity now. You say you have “covered,” so I guess the “press” in your name means you work for some form of the media. Since, as you say, the Augusta Comical doesn’t give Tech any coverage, then you obviously don’t work for them….LOL
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:22 pm
The UGALY Truth sorry to break it to you but 30-24 is today’s news. Just like 24-14 is as well. Hurts like hell doesn’t it when the best chance you ever had to be more than the prettiest sow in the sty ended like every Tech season ends. Same old Tech…Same old $hit.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:24 pm
Grinch, no I am not 70, although getting way too close to it. And your constant use of the “Bwahahah” shows you have the mind of a 12 year old. I hope you grow up before you hit my age. However, so what if I were that old? You’ll be there one day, assuming you don’t drink yourself to death first.
Solid Gold Dancer, great point there.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:26 pm
So what? SMU still got the best coach.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:28 pm
Bob, I find it interesting that SMU went after the “student” before they went after the “teacher.” Remember, CPJ coached under June Jones. The fact that SMU went after CPJ first tells me they thought he would be the better coach. Not that they ended up “settling,” but nobody goes after their “first choice” AFTER their “second choice” has turned them down. CPJ was their first choice.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:28 pm
Solid Gold Dancer
January 12th, 2010
2:20 pm
So you’re telling us that Auburn was turned down by PJ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I must have missed that newsmaker.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:29 pm
Bob, we are all entitled to our opinions, but at least base yours on logic and not sheer predjudice.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:30 pm
Grinch, yes Auburn was turned down by CPJ…..LAST YEAR
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:30 pm
Must suck to be a Tech fan when UGA still pounds your tallest midget. And it must really suck to know prior to every bowl game exactly how it wil turn out before you even play it.
Same old Tech…Same old $hit.
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:30 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:28 pm
If Jones was the teacher and PJ the student, and considering the offenses they run, PJ must not have learned much from this teacher. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:31 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:30 pm
Do you have a link to the contract offer? IF not, I turned down that last nomination to the Supreme Court. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:32 pm
Grinch, maybe you should read (if you know how) what Jones has said about CPJ and vice versa. They have mutual admiration for each other’s successes and abilities.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:33 pm
Grinch, again you are demonstrating your 7th grade mentality. Hell, probably less than 7th grade. I can’t think of a single 12 year old who says “bwahaha” What a child you are!!!
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:34 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:32 pm
So they have a mutual admiration society. Who knows, maybe they’re “BFFs”. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Grinch
January 12th, 2010
2:36 pm
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
2:33 pm
And just how is a dastardly grinch supposed to laugh?
Tech Supporter#1,000,000
January 12th, 2010
2:39 pm
Didn’t Tenuta just get let go too? I’m just saying that if we don’t land Groh, why would it be odd to see us going after him? He didn’t get hired as a head coach, so coming back to the school where he had tons of success seems like a decent choice.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:39 pm
PJ knew better than to take that offense to the SEC. He was smart to turn the Auburn job down. He would have turned Auburn into Vandy.
Bob in Buford
January 12th, 2010
2:43 pm
The fact remains supersize that SMU got the best coach hands down.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
2:49 pm
Fair enough….I’ll answer your questions:
Now, let me ask you a few questions:
1. How did it feel to see yourself ranked #13 at the end of the season when you were ranked as high as #7 (before your end of season collapse)? Actually, to be in the Top 10 was pretty fantastic after suffering through several years of Chan Gailey. Dropping to #13 after losing 2 of the final 3 wasn’t bad at all. Gailey never finished in the Top 25 ANY season at GT.
2. How was it losing 30-24 to what you deem an irrelevant UGA team? I said non-relevant conference play, and 4-4 in an SEC division isn’t relevant. I was there and it was a tough loss, but not for the reasons you think…Not because it was UGAG as much as it was still a WINNABLE game. If we lose to anybody and it’s a blowout loss…OK…The better team won. There wasn’t a UGAG fan anywhere around us that exhaled until Bey Bey dropped the 4th down pass….It wasn’t a blowout, it was close….And I still think it was winnable. That’s what hurt.
3. How do you feel about your offense which has managed a mere 10 points in two bowl games. Truthfully, puzzled. I don’t buy into the talk about bigger D’s will always stop this offense because there are many examples of when that didn’t happen. There are adjustments in play calling to adjust for over-aggressive linemen. And I almost feel guilty saying this but I just didn’t see the same EFFORT out of the offense against Iowa that I did the rest of the season. To say it was Nesbitt’s worst game of the year is putting it mildly. Certainly execution was lousy and no offense, esp a running-based attack, can overcome shooting itself in the foot so much. GT hasn’t been prepared well for either bowl game and since I’m not in the locker room I can’t tell you why.
4. Did you actually go to Miami? Were you one of the “fans” who was dressed as an empty seat on the A She She Chumpionship game? Took the family to VT, WF and UGAG this year, but family circumstances also prevented us from going to Miami.
5. How did it feel to get dominated by Iowa? Was it similar to being dominated by UGA? UGAG didn’t dominate. There were a few runs up the middle that produced lopsided stats, but the game was still winnable with 2 min to go….Similarly, stats look like total domination by Iowa, but GT still only lost 24-14. CPJ is very good at offensive adjustments. Sometimes they come during the first half, sometimes after halftime. That was 2 games where offensive adjustments came too late and D adjustments either never came or also came late. That’s one reason Wommack was fired.
6. Did temperatures in the 40s in Miami feel much different than temperatures in the 40s in Shreveport? Probably about the same, but there are thousands more GT fans you can ask that to than UGAG fans. Very few UGAG fans went to Shreveport and the UGAG Athl Dept forced Aggie fans to buy extra tickets directly through them to inflate the numbers. I find this hypocritical given the constant attack on GT that we “can’t fill up our stadium”…..We sold AT LEAST 3 times more bowl tix than UGAG did and I’d guess that 5 times more GT fans actually showed up compared to UGAG fans….
Kirk Ferentz
January 12th, 2010
2:55 pm
Wake Forrest was a great competitor this year in the Orange bowl. I wish their program continued success…
"UGLAY truth" is a complete moron
January 12th, 2010
2:58 pm
CPJ wins everywhere he goes…
Hasn’t won a bowl game at Tech has he?
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:00 pm
Grinch, I don’t know how a grinch is supposed to laugh. I don’t read childerens’ books anymore.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
3:02 pm
OK Bob in Buford,
Richt beat Johnson last yr by 6 points…I’ll give you that. It’s 1-1 now.
What ELSE did Richt do last year? Just list some of the things that make you PROUD of your 2009 season, besides beating GT….
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:04 pm
I was in Miami, and neither Tech nor Iowa sold out their allotments of tickets. But there were 66,000 people there (obviously still not capacity). It would seem that most people buy their tickets through outlets other than the schools, because they can get better seats that way. I bought mine through Tech and was in the corner of the endzone
I was also in Tampa, and the only reason that stadium wasn’t sold out was because the people of Tampa (nor Jacksonville before that) supported the game. In Atlanta, even if the two schools couldn’t sell out their tickets, the people of Atlanta still support the game and fill the stadium (SEC championship and Peach Bowl). The ACC championship game moves to Charlotte next year, and I expect a sellout no matter who plays.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
3:05 pm
No, CPJ hasn’t won a bowl game at GT yet….But he has an overall record of 20-7 in 2 seasons at GT. Get it? He’s WINNING….
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:05 pm
Correction, UGALY, we beat the mutts by 3 points last year, but point well taken nonetheless.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
3:11 pm
Supersize, I actually meant last year as in 09….It’s one of those January things. Still, it’s 1 win each between Richt and Johnson, so it’s obviously not the same old Tech that Bob in Buford believes…
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
3:21 pm
Supersize That Order, Mutt, you keep tellin’ ‘em, but they’re too stupid to listen, read, and learn — hey, they’re dawg fans, whatcanyasay!! I am a member of the media and do not work for the Comical. I have covered both Tech and UGAG for over 25 years and CPJ is one of the best offensive minds in all of college football. They can say all they want, but I’ve seen plenty of them in action and he beats just about all of them “hands down”. In his system, which is a “run-first” system, it all depends on execution and adjustments. UGAG should know that from his first battle with them in Athens when Tech didn’t execute in the first half and got down by 16 points. He went in at half-time, made the necessary adjustments, they came out, executed, and won 45-42. This year, the team didn’t execute in the second half of the first Clemson game, the Miami game, the first half of the Wake Forest game, the Georgia game (until the fourth quarter), and the Orange Bowl game. Some of it had to do with the number of injuries to offensive linemen, defensive linemen, and defensive secondary personnel. Not making excuses, but you can’t make that offense “click” if your linemen sustain injuries and are out for several weeks. The option attack depends on crisp blocking (not pushing, shoving, holding, and wrestling) and near perfect timing. CPJ was hired by June Jones at Hawaii to merge “his” (CPJ’s) triple option attack with Jones’ run-n-shoot. CPJ has not implemented the run-n-shoot at Tech yet because he has not had the personnel to do so — but, that’s changing with this next season. Anyway, if June Jones was soooo good and the better choice — why did the June Jones offense do so badly against Georgia in the bowl game with Hawaii and their brilliant Heisman Trophy candidate quarterback? Why Willie did a great job of preparing the UGAG defense for that game and all was wonderful in dawgland — they had the greatest coaches and players as they finished with dreams of a national championship in 2008 — what’s that — bahahahahahahahahhahahaha. Dawg fans cannot handle reality and the truth. They have played such weak schedules in the SEC for years, it is getting harder and harder to deal with now that all the SEC teams are getting better. UGAG will be lucky (and they are extremely lucky) to finish with as good a record next year as they had this year! Now, fido, go fetch Supersize That Mutt, another burger and fries to go along with his McTea. CPJ is better than any coach I can remember at UGAG — except Irk Russell (but guess who hired CPJ and helped make him who he is after UGAG didn’t make Irk their HC?) Here, fido, bob, grinch — dumb dawg!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:30 pm
csrapress, I LOVE YA, MAN!!!!!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:30 pm
UGALY, sorry, my bad. I misread what you originally typed. Brain fart, I guess. lol
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
3:34 pm
csrapress, it’s too bad there’s no way to send pvt messages here. It’d be nice to find out more about you than I’m sure you’re willing to share here. I bet you have some stories to tell
George Cantstandya
January 12th, 2010
3:35 pm
There’s no reason to hire because someone is an alumnus. Look what that did to Alabama from the mid 90’s until very recently. Doesn’t matter how long they stay – you can’t predict that. You just have to write a contract that makes them want to stay – or leave. get the best and deal with the later later.
The UGALY Truth
January 12th, 2010
3:43 pm
Bob in Buford, you still there?
You’re all Chatty Cathy when blabbing about GT and Richt Classic….Then I ask what Richt has done for you lately and where’d you go?
Let me help:
1. You beat GT in 2009.
2. You went to scenic Shreveport, LA and beat a team that had a 3-5 record in its own conference.
Now it’s YOUR TURN….Just start with: “Coach Richt made me PROUD to be a UGA Football Fan in 2009 because…..” Surely you can come up with at least 5 things, right? Maybe 3 things? Perhaps just ONE???
csrapress
January 12th, 2010
4:10 pm
Supersize That Order, Mutt, I can tell I luv you too Man! I’ve heard enough of their crap for years and witnessed plenty of it over the years. If ya wanna talk, I won’t be available until later tomorrow — deadlines, ya know. You can reach me at csrapress at the g mail spot — would luv to talk with ya sometime. Keep up the good work on these lamebrains — hopefully, one day it will sink in and something will get through to some gray matter that’s rattling around between their ears (hedges). I have to go meet another deadline. Fetch — Bob, Grinch — whatever that dumb dawg’s name is!
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
4:27 pm
thanks, csrapress, I’ll try zipping off an email to you. Good luck with your deadlines
We Ruin This State
January 12th, 2010
4:30 pm
Big Deal. There’s a dozen guys to choose from. This can happen after recruiting is over. Its a second priority. The guy dosen’t have be in place until spring workouts. I don’t know why the UGA DC has to be in Athens yesterday. Just so we can find out nonsense such as what car he drives or whether or not he’s from Georgia ?
We Ruin This State
January 12th, 2010
4:32 pm
Gosh, this will keep me up all night. When’s the press conference scheduled ?
Inside Scoop
January 12th, 2010
4:34 pm
I’ve heard from the horse’s mouth that Groh has a press conference scheduled on the east lawn of the White House tomorrow at 11:00. You can book it, count on it, done deal, absolute, certainty, inside track info, guaranteed. I know. You heard it here first.
Inside Scoop
January 12th, 2010
4:38 pm
Hey, couldn’t we get Kent Whisenhut, head coach of the AZ Cardinals, former Tech player to take this job as soon as the NFL payoffs are over ? Sure we can. He would do anything to come “home” wouldn’t he ? I heard that this is PJ’s plan if Groh fizzles. Any coach (other than K Smart) would work for free to come “home” wouldn’t they ?
Wreckmaniac
January 12th, 2010
4:41 pm
Well, the cats out of the bag now. Its Whisenhut.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
4:42 pm
Inside Scoop, that is KEN Whisenhunt, not Kent, and I’m sure he is more than happy where he is.
Wreckmaniac
January 12th, 2010
4:45 pm
FLASH!!!! K Smart will hold a press conf at 10:00 tonight to announce that he wouldn’t take the UGA job if they matched Saban’s salary.
Wreckmaniac
January 12th, 2010
4:46 pm
Supersize that Order, Mutt: I’m confused now. Didn’t we establish over the past 15 days that any coach would take any offer to come “home” ?
What did I miss ?
GT Fan
January 12th, 2010
5:01 pm
We don’t know who Johnson has talk to but who ever he hires will be ok. Johnson is a winner and he wants a winner. Groh is fine but we don’t know if PJ has made him a offer? So no big deal. Hope Johnson keeps it quiet till he fines his man.
I’ve alway like Coach Richt and have alot of respect for him……he will find a good DC, you can bet on it.
God Bless both schools.
GatorChomp
January 12th, 2010
5:05 pm
Groh was likely a reach for GT the same as Muschamp, the Falcons DC, Koenning, Ellis, Smart, or Smart the second time were for UGA. The difference is that GT likely has a fall back guy in Ted Roof (great defensive guy that simply was wrong to ever accept the job at Duke in the first place) but GT could make the same mistake as UGA by going after the Arizona Coach Whisenhunt (BTW…I know Whisenhunt is an offensive minded coach making the reach all the more unlikely but hey…unlikelyness has not stopped Richt from reaching anyway!!!) LOL
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
5:06 pm
Wreckmaniac, who’s this “we” you’re talking about? LOL
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
5:13 pm
Gator, I don’t think there are very many Tech fans who would agree with you about Ted Roof. He’s welcome to stay at Auburn as long as he wants. I find it hard to believe too that there are Tech fans who actually want Tenuta back. True, overall, his defenses were better than Wommacks, but his defenses also had a predictable knack of only really showing up to play for about half the games. It was Tenuta’s “vaunted” defenses, more than Gailey’s lack of motivation or college coaching know-how that caused most of the truly embarassing losses in the Gailey era, for instance the UVA game at Charlottesville that Tech lost, the ACC championship game against Wake, the Gator Bowl loss to WVU, after the offense had run all over WVU in the first half, and the bowl game that he coached after Gailey was fired. He didn’t do anything at all at Notre Dame. And on top of everything else, he has the personality of a cardboard box.
#1 GT fan
January 12th, 2010
5:13 pm
Heck,………….. why not let coach PJ coach the “D”. If he can turn around a whole “O”, he can do the same for the “D”. (LOL…………..JK)
And speaking of being humilliatad…………. I am kinda confused why Tech did not go out and try to hire some “big time” DC. I mean with the amount of press GT has, no one would even know thet tried to get a “big time” DC.
Groh would be nice………( I guess ) but I think GT should TRY to do better
I hoping for the best!
GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!
Dumb A$$ Dawg
January 12th, 2010
5:13 pm
Hey….. about the three rejections UGA has had for DC….. did you ever think that it is plan by Richt to run up the cost for his competiion at AL and LSU? How much did the offer from UGA cost each of those schools to keep their DC’s?
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
5:16 pm
Sounds like “inside scoop” is really a “pooper scooper” from UGA.
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
5:18 pm
Looks like Mums still the word on Groh.
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
5:21 pm
Technophobia, there won’t be any word at all on anybody until CPJ gets back from Orlando
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
5:33 pm
Supersize, I agree. Maybe we’ll hear something at the previously scheduled press conference w/CPJ at 9:30 tomorrow. I’m just a little surprised at the lack of leaks from both Tech and the Dolphins.
LMAO!
January 12th, 2010
5:33 pm
Bob in Buford’s team 30. Supersize that order, mutt’s team 24.
Mark Richt 30. Paul Johnson 24.
LMAO!
January 12th, 2010
5:34 pm
Bowl opponents 62. GT 17
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
5:34 pm
CSRA, couldn’t agree more with your posts.
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
5:35 pm
For the record, CPJ did know Coach Wommack before he hired him, even though they were not what you’d call “tight.” That said, I think there is some validity in the perspective that CPJ may want to go with someone he knows a little better this go round, or who has a more proven record. Groh fits this bill, but there are others out there as well. If Groh comes, then great, if not, then I still have faith in CPJ’s ability to hire a good DC. Even as a Tech fan I think “humiliation” is a bit strong to describe the multiple rejections of Richt and UGA. It does indicate a lack of sophistication and secrecy in offering jobs a bit too indiscriminately, but I have no doubt that UGA will end up with a high quality DC, even if he doesn’t have the big name of some others. Erk Russell wasn’t well-known before he came to UGA….lo, those many years ago.
BuzzBitesDog
January 12th, 2010
5:41 pm
Hey, CMR! Pete Carroll just quit USC and hasn’t quite gotten moved into Seattle yet, so why not try to steal him away for your next DC? I am sure Bellichek, Dungy, and Cowher will be there if Carroll turns you down. Oh, yeah, Lombardi and Erk Russell are flipping coins in the afterlife to see who gets to interview next with you.
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
5:46 pm
Jeff, I am not at all worried about Groh getting taken by the Dolphins. It would be nice to have a seasoned pro like him as our next DC, but as no formal offer has been made, I wouldn’t see it as obvious a rejection as Foster, Smart, et al were to UGA and CMR. Given the tight ship that CPJ runs, I don’t think we will hear much about offers being made, more likely we’ll just hear about the next DC after it is a done deal. Do you agree? Speaking of tight ships, whatever happened to CPJ’s former DC at Navy?
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
5:54 pm
FullMetal, I don’t know about CPJ’s former DC at Navy, but I sure wouldn’t mind having the one they have there now. He’s good. But I would never expect CPJ “steal” somebody from there.
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
5:55 pm
Just heard from friend in Miami that Groh is very likely to go there. While salary is not an issue, he can add considerably to his NFL pension and benefits which were established during his earlier stint in the pro’s. Also, family, weather, and freedom from travel (recruiting, etc.) are factors pushing him in that direction. Really just a matter of choice, and his friendship with Parcells is a big pull.
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
6:04 pm
What about Buddy Green? Former DC at NC State where he worked wonders in the early 90’s, and more recently at Navy where he worked with CPJ and his successor with limited talent to build very good defenses. I am assuming there must be some reason (ties to Annapolis, or friction with Johnson) we haven’t heard much about him before, but if CPJ does get along with him he might work out well here. Not sure why he did not initially come with CPJ in 2008.
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
6:09 pm
DawgNation is putting more perceived pressure on their program and their coach to make a “big named” hire for DC by perpetuating this idea that they are one of the elite programs in the country. Certainly, UGA does have a strong program, but rather than hire a nut-and-bolts DC who can get the job done even if he has to butt heads and get dirt under his nails (like Erk), they seem to have forgotten their roots and require another golden boy with a big rep and salary. You already have one cover boy in CMR, so why not focus on getting a blue-collar, results oriented guy for the hard task of rebuilding the defense and defensive tradition at UGA?
FullMetalJacket
January 12th, 2010
6:13 pm
Of course, as a Tech man I would prefer you to hire another pretty-boy alumni or headline-grabber to continue underestimating CPJ’s high school offense and trade school players…I, for one, am happy to be the underdogs in the state….the victories may come more sparingly but they are oh, so much sweeter!
BuzzBitesDog
January 12th, 2010
6:23 pm
NEWSFLASH!!!! CMR hires medium to channel Erk Russell for DC interview.
BuzzBitesDog
January 12th, 2010
6:23 pm
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WetWillie
January 12th, 2010
6:25 pm
I am talking with UGA about a job working with the scout team, but I’d be happy to take the Tech job on the side.
Technophobia
January 12th, 2010
7:06 pm
Fullmetal, Groh may well go to Miami but I think your friend is just giving opinion. Either that or he has inside info that no one else has or is sharing. From what I can find, there is nothing new on this subject anywhere, even the blogs. It’s a little hard to believe that the Miami firing wasn’t anticipated and that they wouldn’t have talked to him earlier if they really wanted him. Either way, if the decision was obvious, it would have been made by now.
Inside Scoop
January 12th, 2010
7:27 pm
I’ve really been enamored with the UGA approach. Get one of your “own”
to come “home” and take an assistant position. Thats why I think Whisenhut makes sense. Since it made sense at UGA, it would anywhere.
Right ?
Just a Thought
January 12th, 2010
8:33 pm
At this point if I were a DC I would hope that UGA would be interested in my services. I would go for an interview and act interested (even if I wasn’t). They would offer me big bucks which I could use as leverage to get a raise at my current job (which I really like better). Oh wait, this has already been done by three others.
need2fish
January 12th, 2010
9:23 pm
If the decision is for comfort level it’s probably Miami. Didn’t realize his association with Parcells was that strong.
GT IS NOW A 6TH RATE HIGH SCHOOL TEAM
January 12th, 2010
9:35 pm
GROWTH DOES NOT LIKE TO COACH A HIGH SCHOOL TEAM, THAT IS WHY. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
Supersize that order, mutt
January 12th, 2010
10:54 pm
Nobody wants to coach at the septic tank. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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We Ruin This State
January 13th, 2010
8:47 am
Well all I know is that there is an 11:00 press conference scheduled somewhere to announce something.
Tech Grad
January 13th, 2010
12:17 pm
I heard the same NPR report about the govna…
Habersham Dawg
January 13th, 2010
9:48 pm
Last call for a snarky comment…….Locking this one down, Jeff.