Tech’s Dwyer would be No. 8 player in NFL draft, scout says (UPDATED)

Jonathan Dwyer has run to the head of the pack, according to NationalFootballPost.com

Georgia Tech's Jonathan Dwyer has run to the head of the pack for running backs, says NationalFootballPost.com.

(I updated this blog with some comments from Wes Bunting below)

Georgia Tech’s latest surge has done more than just elevate the Yellow Jackets to the No. 7 team in the country. It has raised Jonathan Dwyer to the No. 8 draft-eligible player in the nation, at least according to one scouting website.

In his “Super 30″ rankings updated this week, Wes Bunting of NationalFootballPost.com lists Dwyer, a junior, as the best running back on the board and the No. 8 overall NFL prospect, ahead of Cal’s Jahvid Best (16th) and Clemson’s C.J. Spiller (22nd). Bunting called Dwyer “a violent runner who exhibits good vision between the tackles and has the initial burst to separate from defenders at the second level.”

Dwyer, who hasn’t yet said that he will enter the draft, has rushed for 610 yards and six touchdowns in the last four games, with a 7.27 per carry average.

Bunting also has Tech defensive end Derrick Morgan as the No. 17 player in the draft.

The National Football Post rankings differ from Mel Kiper’s Big Board and the Scout’s Inc. Top 100 list (Both require ESPN Insider membership. But I’ll share this if each of you promise to mail me 50 cents to help defray my expenses. OK? OK.)

Kiper wrote he generally doesn’t list juniors on his Big Board unless they’re obviously a top 15 player. Only two running backs made his overall list of top 25 players: Spiller (12) and Best (19). He has Dwyer listed as the second-best junior running back, behind Best.

Kiper also lists Morgan as the 15th best  overall player in the draft. Among juniors, he has Georgia’s Rennie Curran as the No. 2 outside linebacker, Tech’s Morgan Burnett as the No. 2 safety, Tech’s Demaryius Thomas as the No. 4 wide receiver and Georgia’s Reshad Jones as the No. 5 safety.

The Todd McShay/Scout’s Inc. Top 100 list, disagrees with Kiper and National Football Post. He lists Morgan as the No. 6 player in the draft and Dwyer at 34th. He has two Georgia players in his top 100, defensive tackle Geno Atkins (65) and Jeff Owens (109). Curran is not on his list.

I’ll try to check these lists once in a while to keep you up to date.

UPDATE: Here are some comments from Bunting:

♦ On Dwyer: “He’s a violent runner who not only possesses the ability to be physical in between the tackles, but exhibits an impressive initial burst in the open field with the first step to separate from defenders at the second level. Dwyer looks NFL ready right now and has the ability to carry the load at the next level and be an every down type of back. Plus, coming out of the option offense, I think he’s going to benefit greatly from lining up eight yards behind the [line of scrimmage] in the NFL and will be even more instinctive and natural running the ball inside then he is now. His combination or power, burst and lateral agility or second to none in college football.”

♦ On why he’s ahead of Spiller and Best: “I don’t know if Spiller is an every-down back. [He] looks more like a Felix Jones type runner to me. As for Best, [he has] big play ability, and might have a bit more upside then Dwyer, but  isn’t as physical and might have some trouble staying healthy. Dwyer just looks more like a sure thing to me. A more physically gifted Jonathan Stewart type runner in the NFL.”

♦ On his own background: “I am the Director of College Scouting for the Nationalfootballpost.com. I have been scouting college football since 2002.”

350 comments Add your comment

MiltonDawg

November 20th, 2009
7:09 am

Dwyer should be a good pickup for any team…maybe Detroit or the Browns next year??

dmortone

November 20th, 2009
7:09 am

dmortone

November 20th, 2009
7:10 am

damn, so close

dmortone

November 20th, 2009
7:11 am

Dwyer deserves better than the Browns, unless they fire Mangini

Topp Dogg

November 20th, 2009
7:12 am

That plus 44cents can and will mail you a letter.

Mr Math

November 20th, 2009
7:12 am

He has two Georgia players in his top 100, defensive tackle Geno Atkins (65) and Jeff Owens (109).

MiltonDawg

November 20th, 2009
7:16 am

Dwyer will go anywhere with that 1rst round bonus $$$. You figure Chiefs/Oakland/Redskins would take a QB with their 1rst pick. I see Det/Cle/or SEA

MiltonDawg

November 20th, 2009
7:18 am

I could see Curran going late 1rst round or 2nd round. I hope the Falcons don’t draft R. Jones- we need a strong CB/Safety ASAP!!!

Frank

November 20th, 2009
7:32 am

For the 2nd time in quite a while, gtu gets to feel what it is like to have a real player on the team leave early. C Johnson was the real deal and now JD.

Take The Money

November 20th, 2009
7:37 am

Frank,

What is a “gtu”???

No Name (required)

November 20th, 2009
7:45 am

He is an exciting player; I would draft him.

JayRoot

November 20th, 2009
7:49 am

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WHODAHELL is Wes Bunting?

He’s no Mel Kiper!!

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# 9 @UGA...

November 20th, 2009
7:50 am

…ain’t going in the first 3 rounds, and probably not in the whole 7 rounds; didn’t he try to go pro last year, too? And, #35 at UGA will get left out, too…he’s too slow to be a strong safety and too small to be an OLB; but, he is a heck of a competitor!]

I’d take Dwyer over Spiller, too, and I am a Clemson fan!

Burdell

November 20th, 2009
7:58 am

Silly to worry about any of this stuff now…still have plenty of football to play. Draft is not for another 5 months, but…

Jahvid Best has shown, while electric, his small size is a liability. The Diesel is the real deal…so is fragile foot Spiller when healthy.

GO JACKETS!!

falcon 71

November 20th, 2009
8:00 am

dywer is jason snelling dont see him as a game changer

GTpak

November 20th, 2009
8:01 am

These guys are no better than the recruiting services at ranking players. Take it all with a grain of salt. they make their money by hyping players and cannot possibly know who is the best. It ain’t nothing but guessing.

Ezekiel

November 20th, 2009
8:02 am

Hate to lose Dwyer and/or Derrick Morgan and/or Bebe Thomas and/or Morgan Burnett but you can’t blame players for leaving early so they can get paid. This shows how things have changed between UGA and Tech. Used to be UGA would have the players leaving early, this year it is Tech. Talk more Tech football at: http://www.bbuzzoff.com

Fire Marshal

November 20th, 2009
8:03 am

Money, there have been morons on her for awhile, stating that the Georgia Institute of Technology had changed its name to Georgia Tech University. Blog BS.

Blue

November 20th, 2009
8:08 am

Math; pretty sure that #109 is not in the top 100.

Chris

November 20th, 2009
8:09 am

Wow, somebody actually compared Dwyer to Jason Snelling. You’re an idiot. Go turn on a game for once.

Take The Money

November 20th, 2009
8:11 am

Fire, you are right. Idiots abound. Hoping that Frank can understand that his opinion means less than nothing, especially since he can’t know anything at all about the program and make such a stupid mistake.

KG

November 20th, 2009
8:13 am

Falcon 71, don’t watch alot of football do ya?

dtanner

November 20th, 2009
8:14 am

dwyer is a system guy

the real GA coast

November 20th, 2009
8:15 am

If this tech team stays together and plays another year as a team …..just think….12-0 Natl. Champs

Papadawg

November 20th, 2009
8:16 am

I used to think stay in school and get your degree but now no degree not even from GT will get you the money the NFL pays. Go get the money and not chance a serious injury.

Cut

November 20th, 2009
8:20 am

Hard to say how good Dwyer is. You don’t have to be extraordinarily talented to pile up yardage when people are more worried about protecting their knees than tackling you. …don’t give a damn about its legality; cut blocking as a pillar of your offense is wussified.

Dooley's Cardiologist

November 20th, 2009
8:21 am

Morgan and Dwyer are gone. Burnett and Bebe stay. Oh well, Sh#$ Happens.

Get Real

November 20th, 2009
8:26 am

Cut, if your HC was doing it to the tune of a 8-1 record you would be dancing in the streets happy saying “cut em til they learn!”

Get real

GT_DAN

November 20th, 2009
8:27 am

Dwyer has the size and speed to be a feature back in the NFL. Neither Spiller or Best have the size to hold up…I’m pretty sure Dwyer is quite the game breaker – just look at how many 20+ yard runs he’s had…I guess some people just get past the fact that muttville passed on him.

I’m actually pretty shocked that Curran isn’t getting more love. I remember Zach Thomas being ‘too short’ for the NFL too and he had one heck of a career. Let the Falcons get him late – Curran is a player.

dagnabit

November 20th, 2009
8:32 am

Let’s keep the Tech team together for another year.

Funny!

November 20th, 2009
8:35 am

Dtanner is an idiot!!!

Not Disappointed!

November 20th, 2009
8:39 am

Good luck to “The Diesel” in the future, but for now we need Dywer Morgan, and others to play like there is no tomorrow! They will do find at the next level.

Ramblin Wreck!

VegasGT

November 20th, 2009
8:43 am

You really can’t blame these kids for wanting to take the money offered as a first round pick. Look at what happened to Sam Bradford. Whoever goes, we will miss them. Next year could be very special given that there are only three or four seniors in the two-deep roster for GT. But, we are talking one year vs a career for these guys.

My rule of thumb (not that it means anything), if you are going to be a first round pick, enter the draft, otherwise stay for your senior year and earn your way to the first round. Of course, it also makes sense to look at what the other classes might look like.

BUT, like someone else mentioned, who cares, it’s 5+ months away and we have another very important game next week.

RIP UGA VII.

GO JACKETS !!!

Thank you...

November 20th, 2009
8:46 am

… to MiltonDawg for having the first comment and not being a jerk by saying “First!”

UGA VII

November 20th, 2009
8:47 am

NCMTNDawg

November 20th, 2009
8:50 am

Dwyer is a hand full, for sure. Believe I’d take him as first rb too. Love Curran’s heart and never-quit mentality, but don’t see him as an everydown ‘backer, due to size, in the NFL. R. Jones as the #5 safety? Kiper is good, but he wiffed BIG time here. Personally, I don’t think he is the 5th best safety @UGA.

GO Dawgs!!!

SEC

November 20th, 2009
8:51 am

yeah cause that who everybody goes by now days for the draft Wes Bunting of NationalFootballPost.com. Dwyer is a solid back but not the best back in the country and def not #8. No team will risk the pick especially with the type of offense they run. Its not a pro style offense… Its a whole new world for him in the pros

Chris Broe

November 20th, 2009
8:53 am

Falcons will beat the Giants. There’s something wrong with Eli’s head this year. He is a sore sport. I didn’t know that until this year. I hate sore losers, as I had to suffer them all during my sandlot career from age 9 till 53, when I retired with a flag burn that I still cant show anybody.

Tampa Jacket

November 20th, 2009
8:53 am

Another thing to keep in mind is that the NFL collective bargaining agreement will have to be renegotiated after next year, and one of the things the league is pushing for is a rookie salary cap. That, more than anything else, may influence some of this year’s juniors to leave for a shot at the big money in the 2010 draft, because it may not be there in 2011.

GOB

November 20th, 2009
8:55 am

Dwyer is in no way a “system back.” He had a really strong freshman year in Chan Gailey’s pro-style offense backing up Tashard Choice. If anything, he would likely be getting even more love if he were a featured back, and not sharing carries with his QB (or having to bust straight up the middle on most of his carries).

The thing that may hurt him more than anything is the fact that he hasn’t had to focus on his pass protection at Tech. He’ll be a very good pro though.

UGA VII

November 20th, 2009
8:57 am

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Mutts R Stupid

November 20th, 2009
8:59 am

This NFL talk is just part of the ajc’s annual attempt to sabotage Ga Tech prior to the UGA game. I will not subscribe to the ajc until the paper gits rid of the uga graduates pretending to be journalist. Last week, the ajc started the rumor machine about Derick Morgan’s NFL aspirations, this week it is Johnathon, what will it be next week, Bay Bay? All this could have waited until after the season is over, but the ajc has to try to drip poison into the Tech team. Well I am dripping poison onto the Urinal and its circulation. Fire the sports staff.

collegeballfan

November 20th, 2009
9:02 am

“I’ll try to check these lists once in a while to keep you up to date.”

That’s OK. I do not own an NFL team so I could care less about who gets drafted where.

jacket3

November 20th, 2009
9:02 am

Very tough choices to make if you are these guys. Big Bucks vs a College Degree. I’d take the degree anytime especially from GT. The GT family takes care of their own. Although we would love to have them with a real signature year and maybe a NC, we wish them the best because they will always be champions of the JacketNation.

And the rest of the picks? Just one comment – wait until Spiller is crushed by a 365 pound NFL player – talk about a life changer.

wiley

November 20th, 2009
9:03 am

SEC…have you watched Dwyer play? How is it such a huge difference??You get the ball and run through the tackles. Dwyer played in a pro style offense his freshman year and looked amazing while getting very few touches. I wish he would stay but its probably not going to happen.

Gt4ever

November 20th, 2009
9:03 am

UGA VII, that’s just plain cold man….. Kinda funny though…. In a warped way.

Morning Jacket

November 20th, 2009
9:04 am

I’d love for someone to do an analysis of Mel Kiper’s rankings every year. It may be me, but he seems to be far more wrong than right. What da ya say, Jeff?

Gt4ever

November 20th, 2009
9:05 am

Jacket3, are you KIDDING. Degree vs. millions…. Come on man, wake up!

SEC

November 20th, 2009
9:07 am

Oh yeah i have seen him play in person. He is good. I said he was a very good back….just not #8. No team will waste the money coming from that offense

chiefdawg

November 20th, 2009
9:08 am

Mutts R stupid, I believe the AJC recently had an article about Curran and Jones going pro.