Worried about Matt Ryan? Johnston says you’re nuts

Count Daryl Johnston among those who don't doubt Matt Ryan's future.

Count Daryl Johnston among those who don't doubt Matt Ryan.

Jumping off the Matt Ryan bandwagon? Daryl Johnston has a message for you.

“If they’re selling, I’ll buy their seat,” said the Fox analyst and former Dallas Cowboys fullback. “His intangibles are off the chart. He’ll be fine. It’s very difficult to find a quarterback, and the Falcons have a very, very good one. He’s a young guy who’s going to get better. Did he set the bar high last year? Absolutely. But what he’s going through now is completely normal. Peyton Manning went 3-13. Troy Aikman was 0-10. I’m not saying Matt Ryan is either one of those guys, but it’s normal to struggle.”

Johnston worked the Fox broadcast last week when Ryan threw two interceptions that played into the Falcons’ 28-19 loss at Carolina. He also watched the Falcons’ wins over San Francisco and Washington, and will work this week’s game against the New York Giants in the Meadowlands.

Ryan has thrown at least one interception in six straight games, and has 10 in the last five. But, no kidding: Johnston started laughing when I mentioned to him that some fans and media members had increasing concerns about the second-year quarterback.

“I’m sure Matt will be the first to tell you that he’d like to have back that fourth-quarter pass to Michael Jenkins,” Johnston said. “He didn’t have to throw that. It was a tw0-man route and Carolina was dropping seven into coverage and the ball sailed on him. But in the drive before that, when they went for the field goal that [Jason Elam] missed, Matt was great. He took what the defense gave him. He completed some short passes and moved the team down the field. That’s what surprised me so much about the interception.”

Surprisingly, Johnston downplayed the significance of the loss of running back Michael Turner, who is likely out for at least Sunday’s game against the Giants, and possibly longer, with an ankle sprain.

“As long as Jerious Norwood is healthy, it won’t be as big a deal,” he said (although Norwood has missed four straight games with a strained hip flexor). “Jason Snelling stepped into a difficult situation last week when Turner left and Norwood wasn’t 100 percent, and he did great. Obviously, they’re not the same style offense without Michael Turner. But Norwood and Snelling are pretty good and they can do some of the same things.”

Earlier today, I attempted to break down the NFC wild card picture.  Johnston still views the Falcons as a potential playoff team but believes the race won’t be decided until the final week of the season

“Minnesota and New Orleans have elevated themselves,” he said. “The East [Division] will be a tough race and I think Arizona will win the West. But those two wild card spots are going to be difficult for anybody to clinch. I think it’s going down to the end.”

195 comments Add your comment

The Grinch

November 18th, 2009
5:58 pm

If he thinks Norwood’s gonna be or stay healthy, he obviously doesn’t watch many Falcons games. let’s hope he’s right.

Dawgs2009

November 18th, 2009
6:03 pm

Same old Falcons. They will find a way to let us down once again. I have watched it for years!

rknight

November 18th, 2009
6:11 pm

Might want to check your title. Are you saying Johnston says we should worry about our nuts instead of Ryan? That makes sense, too. I know I am.

RomeDawg

November 18th, 2009
6:18 pm

As a lifelong Falcons fans I keep waiting for that “bad” thing to happen and I am afraid Turner’s injury may be it. Hope not, but we’ll see. I like Snelling, but he’s not Turner. I also am have concern for my nuts!

Gamer

November 18th, 2009
6:19 pm

Falcons got the personnel to achieve postseaston play but will they put it all together when it count!!

A certain receiver(Jenkins) must complete his routes!!

The linebackers must stay solid tackling running-backs!

Stop dropping pass-rushers into passing plays, let them rush the passer!!

Whoever running the ball need to run hard and decisive every down given.

Hopefully, Ryan and WR’s can get on the same page!!

Falcons can still go 10-6.

20 wins in a row

November 18th, 2009
6:20 pm

Didn’t they learn anything from Vick? I am sure he will be a good NFL QB but what if he turns out to be a total bust? You have to pay him a lot of money thats what.

Born2Buzz

November 18th, 2009
6:27 pm

Ryan will be fine.

And Jeff, can you ban “Choke” before he even gets on here and starts ruining the blog.

Big games coming up in the next 3 weeks.

Whopper Dawg

November 18th, 2009
6:34 pm

The flaw in your conclusion that the Falcons make the playoffs is that we, the Giants and the Eagles all finish 9 – 7, they both beat us head to head, but we get in. I think head to head is the first tie breaker, so I don’t think that will happen.

I think 9 -7 is best case, with 8 -8 being more realistic.

Don’t forget that none of this year’s draft choices are playing to any type of significant level and Baker is hurt again. Yeah, I know that Perry and the safety are hurt – but the rap on them were their history and injuries, that was the rap on Baker too, and we drafted them anyway.

rms

November 18th, 2009
6:34 pm

falcons are soft!

Fair and Balanced

November 18th, 2009
6:35 pm

What intangibles caused 12 interceptions thru Week 9?

hiramsaint

November 18th, 2009
6:39 pm

honestly jeff, after sunday the falcons will be 5-5 with 6 to go. do you think they’re gonna win even 4 of those? of course you don’t. they may get 3 and go 8-8 so your consecutive losing season hang-up will be over . maybe next year they’ll concentrate on football instead of being distracted by…who is our qb…. why is our coach getting in fights….why did we get rid of our linebackers… is king arthur broke… why do we have no depth…no disrespect intended, just some observations!

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
6:39 pm

Fair and Balanced

November 18th, 2009
6:35 pm
What intangibles caused 12 interceptions thru Week 9?

“Because” if he didn’t use his intangibles, it would be 20 PICKS :)

FalconUGAFan

November 18th, 2009
6:40 pm

They learned plenty from Vick. Thats why he isn’t on the team.

I’m a lifelong fan too. Been through all the lean years, but I’m not ready to give up on them. I never have and I never will. Go Falcons!

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
6:41 pm

The only football in the state is at Georgia Tech. They also happen to be the only football that has a fair open competition at quarterback, regardless if his eyes are not blue.

Go Jackets!

Edd

November 18th, 2009
6:42 pm

Like I say and have said , , it is time to see how good the coaching staff and front office is. Great teams get it right and get it fixed ! Are the Falcons headed to the “NEXT” level and how quickly ? It will be very very hard to win in NY. Go to coaching Mike Smith , call the plays Larkey and man up players, this is the truth for this year, dig deep, we are gonna need it and I will do all I can, drink, watch, drink, cuss, hurray, drink, cuss the prevent defense , and hope for a WIN in NY, this is it since ‘66. Go Birds !!!!!!!!!1

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
6:45 pm

If The Great Smitty would stop fighting with opposing players and do his job, maybe he can avoid ending up like the ex Buffalo coach.

rknight

November 18th, 2009
6:45 pm

Your welcome, Jeff. Damn budget cuts in the newsroom/sports desk.
BTW, Falcons will be fine; near and longer term.

Loyd Roser

November 18th, 2009
6:48 pm

Matt “Choke” Ryan , get a girlfriend or another boyfriend.

Karla

November 18th, 2009
6:50 pm

Loyd r, that was funny to me.

karl

November 18th, 2009
6:55 pm

I still say “choke” is Terrence Moore.

junebaby

November 18th, 2009
6:55 pm

keep it up “choke”. i for one, love your posts! all these hypocrits hate it when the shoe is on the other foot!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:04 pm

People let’s inject some facts in here, Matt Ryan came in with all this hype, and the truth of the matter is this is Michael Turners team. Michael not Matt is the more significant Body on the field now. Lose Matt and Redman, with “Burner Turner” keeps Defenses honest. There will be all out blitzes on Matt this next few weeks, and ATL Fans will see his breakdown. With that said, do I think he will be a good QB in the NFL? yes. Will he get to that next level as a QB remains to be seen. Management will attempt to get players around him to make him look better than he is, but in reality he is at best above average. Imagine if M. Vick had “Burner Turner”, and a now mature Roddy White, Tony Gonzalez, and yes Michael Jenkins to keep defenses honest. They couldn’t be played againt in a cover 2 because know safety would want to take a chance on covering them and watching this guy take off out the pocket, and corners would crap there pants on roll outs. Atlanta Matt is going to be good, but reality is Vick is and will Always be Considered the best QB to play here. P.s If Bartkowski would’ve had wheels(Legs for those who dont understand)he know doubt is the best Ever. One last note, If you really know football please hope that he gets away from trying to use T. Gonzalez so often he is getting read like a people magazine these days by D. Coordinators!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:12 pm

Matt “Choke” Ryan, Hate Tech, but must admit about fair QB situation. D.J. Shockley put up way better numbers in senoir years than JPW, and ole Brown eyes got shown the door. Come to think of it with the exception of the old days, what Bama QB you know has did anything in the NFL in lets say the last 20 years?

gman

November 18th, 2009
7:15 pm

when is somebody going to call out T.D. and his choice of draft picks, out of two drafts we really get two significant players, calling ryan 1 and lofton 2. oh and ill say biermann as 3
so this blog if for T.D. if a player is injury prone in school and college, guess what. sometime
you have to pick the next best player at the position.you think guys with the tangibles that
jerry and moore slipped on purpose, no they were risky. so please the draft is to get help its
not to see how many players we can fill the injury report, unless your starting and I.R. club

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:16 pm

Karl “Choke” ain’t Terrance Moore, “choke” is real and honest. You know that thing that most Americans aren’t any more!

matt r

November 18th, 2009
7:19 pm

Do football announcers speak in rhetorical questions even when not on TV? Of course they do!

Larry

November 18th, 2009
7:20 pm

Jeff,

I agree with you on this one! I know! I know! You can close your mouth now and get up off the floor!

Others,

Please stop referring to the past, “the curse,” and the jinx! This type of utter nonsense has nothing to do with the present or future and you simply continue to perpetuate that Southerners are still addicted to pork rinds and rely on Palm Readers to validate their future spouses. This makes you look stupid, wimpy, insecure and unintelligent!

Everything this team and its owner has done since ridding itself of the Georgia Dome Thug/Rap environment over the past couple of years is both remarkable and worthy of praise and admiration. I now feel like I’m in a true football environment agings like we had with the Leeman Bennett era and going to the Dome is fun again.

We are set for years of sound, competitive football!

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
7:21 pm

Addition by subtraction:

- Delete the CHOKE

- Delete Mike “Grumpy Old Man” Smith

- Delete Thomas “I Aint No Belichick” Dimitroff

Sum it all up:

About 100 million dollars of freed up money.

This “New Face” project was a failure from the beginning.

I thought The Great Smitty was brought in because of his defensive guru status, but the defense is in even worse status than it was in 2007, before he started have Viagara issues.

He is so frustrated with his and the CHOKE’s performance that he attacks players who had nothing to do with his failures.

He will be the 2nd coach to be DELETED.

Turtsnap

November 18th, 2009
7:22 pm

I see Matt “Choke” Ryan has arrived… end of blog!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:23 pm

Born to Buzz, Ya’ll ain’t even got a stinger playing in the A.C.C. Who, and I mean who has did anything in the ACC? If not for Miami, or FSU you guys couldn’t claim a “real” legit champion, and to be honest they wasn’t in the ACC when they won it. So ya’ll Tech fans please shut the smuck up!

Dale Tims

November 18th, 2009
7:25 pm

Matt “Choke” Ryan is a dum dum, duh .

Kendra

November 18th, 2009
7:29 pm

I totally agree Big Mike,I am Vick’s #1 fan and I too think that he was and still is one of the best. Matt Ryan is truely not ready to perform and need a little more practice. I am a true falcons fan that is very tired of watching them lose. Please Mr. Art let’s put more time into the team and less time in trying to own the dome, which will never happen.

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:32 pm

Larry, Thugs win Championships (Rothlisberger, R. Lewis, R. Moss, and yes Pretty Boy Brady) who had 30 chicks before he settled down. So please don’t come with the “soft boy” mentality, and please don’t try to bring the sublimital thoughts (thugs a.k.a. Black Guys) in the mix. Oh yes a Thug actually knows what sublimital thinking is, and has a degree.

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:34 pm

Kendra, nothing sexier than a woman that knows the game and can still keep it street and sexy!

FALCONFAN4LIFE (BABY)

November 18th, 2009
7:35 pm

Why isn’t Chris Owens playing, can anyone tell me.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
7:35 pm

I can recall after that weak schedule the Falcons had in 2008, you remember. Surely you do. Let me remind you:

- Detroit

- Kansas City

- St. Louis

- Oakland

Remember now? Thought that might ring a bell. So, all the anti Vick media, you know, John Clayton of ESPN, FOX, AJC, etc. The were saying he will be the next coming of Jesus, but I never heard of Jesus having a sophomore slump.

Fast forward to this season and the only teams they can beat are the ones with losing records. You know who they are. Well, let me refresh your selective memories:

- Miami (4-5)

- Carolina (4-5)

- San Fran (4-5)

- Chicago (4-5)

See a pattern? No? Well let me make it easy for you. They are all LOSING teams. Anybody can beat those losing teams. Now the winning teams, Patriots, Cowboys, & Saints – the CHOKE did what he does best….. CHOKE.

Now if he couldn’t win against winning teams with Turner, who had 428 yards in his last 9 quarters, how in hell do you expect him to win without Turner.

With 10 interceptions in the last 5 games, this guy is a BUST.

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

And stop making excuses!

riggo

November 18th, 2009
7:37 pm

When will Michael Jenkins show up?

Whitey

November 18th, 2009
7:38 pm

rknight

I agree…shouldn’t use johnson and nuts in same sentence…too close together, but if anyone would be an expert on nuts, it’s johnson!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:39 pm

Ya’ll stay cool out there in BLOG LAND, but remember, “Ain’t no sunshine when BigMike gone!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:43 pm

Hey “Choke” just one Question man! Do You see a Romo effect going on in Atl? I do all the hype and no real game.

Larry

November 18th, 2009
7:47 pm

“BigMike Said,”

By definition, “subliminal” is defined as “existing or functioning below the lever of consciousness.” I know you have a degree and all but I think the word you were looking for is implication or implicative.

And to set the record straight, yes, I think the DeAngelo Halls are thug like individuals always looking for someone (black or white) to fight with but I do not consider Vick a thug. Vick is just a guy who was raised by poor or non existent parents who failed to grow up and overcome this and whose behavior is more defined as stupid, ignorant and grossly immature, not that of a thug like Hall. The rest of the people you mentioned aren’t “thugs,” They’ve just done some questionable and irresponsible things.

Clear it up for you, smart guy?

Cairo

November 18th, 2009
7:50 pm

Choke you are a celebrity now. Milk it! Loving it….

Larry

November 18th, 2009
7:57 pm

Jeff,

To rid ourselves of the “Chokes,” “Big Mikes,” and other cerebrally challenged and cognitively deficient bloggers on here, have you ever considered an IQ test that first one must pass before gaining access to your blogs? I know, I know! Some, like “Choke” will find someone to take the test for him but hopefully the inconvenience and embarrassment of asking will run him and others off after a while.

I just feel too often when I visit with you its like driving through the slums to get to the Island Resort and I’m hoping to find a way to circumvent these pest-like irritants to enjoy a higher level of exchange.

Give it some thought!

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
7:58 pm

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
7:43 pm
Hey “Choke” just one Question man! Do You see a Romo effect going on in Atl? I do all the hype and no real game.

“Exactly”

So let's hear it choke

November 18th, 2009
8:00 pm

What’s your thought’s on Ryan? I don’t think we’ve heard it yet.

Not that Ryan will end up as one of the NFL greats at the QB position but are you basing your opinion of him based on his sophomore year stats alone? Or is it for another reason? Race, alma mater, or home town, or something else? Be honest.

No one knows what type of QB he’ll turn out to be, but he does have a good work ethic and is a leader on the field whether you acknowledge that or not. Are his teammates wrong when they say that he is a leader?

I don’t want to turn this into a MV conversation because he is yesterdays news but is he the reason you hate Ryan?

Make some good points other than giving us his passer ratings for this season.

Jeff Schultz

November 18th, 2009
8:12 pm

So let’s hear it choke — Sorry, are you asking me? My position on Ryan is pretty clear. He’s struggling a bit right now but I think he’ll be fine eventually. But when you take a step back after achieving so much last year, it’s going to scare people.

Jeff Schultz

November 18th, 2009
8:12 pm

Larry — No IQ tests for open commenting. Or calling into talk radio. Or the vent. Or blogging. Or . . .

cdog

November 18th, 2009
8:18 pm

the problem is not matt ryan. its the defense. when you have a defense that has no pride about itself. can’t stop the run, constantly gives teams 2nd and 3 or less, a secondary that can’t cover william perry,and constantly keeps the offense trying to come back from being two or more touchdowns,even johnny unitas or peyton manning couldn’t consistently bring them back. this what ryan is running into. he has to try and match td for td with the opposing teams. all of this spell losing. until the defense takes pride and stop people, its going to be a struggle.

Dustin

November 18th, 2009
8:19 pm

For all you Falcon haters out there, route for another team and stop bashing the home team.

Matt Ryan can’t be great 100% of the time. Flacco is having the same growing pains with the Ravens, and, hey, look they’ve got the same record.

As far as Mr. “choke” and his comments about the Falcons only winning to losing teams, true, but every one of those teams are still in the playoff hunt, two of those teams made the playoffs last year, and every team was at or near 100% healthy when the Falcons played them.

It’s hard to beat Brady and Co. in NE, they hung with the Saints in the Superdome, and the other two loses also came on the road. The only game they didn’t play to form was last week against the Panthers (which by the way was the second time they’ve played this year).

As far as Matty “Ice” is concerned it’s way to early to call him a bust, which I highly doubt he is. Who else were all the Vick lovers out there begging for in the draft, oh yeah, Glenn Dorsey. Where is he now? That’s right making no impact, faded into transparency on a dismal 2-7 KC team.

Ryan is adjusting to the game, like the article said just like Manning, Aikman, and just about every other starter has since the history of football. A bust would be someone like JaMarcus Russell and teetering Brady Quinn.

Ryan will make the throws needed, and the more he sees these pro defenses, especially after playing all these good teams this year, he WILL make the adjustments needed. I think 10 wins is attainable, 9 more likely. No matter what I can promise you that Matt will be working harder this off season. No need to fret.

So let's hear it choke

November 18th, 2009
8:20 pm

My fault Jeff, was talking to “CHOKE”…

I’d actually like to hear your thoughts on Elam. Missing filed goals at crucial points hurts and he seems to be having a rougher year than Ryan. Does Smitty get to a point and start putting in Keonan? I was at the game Sunday and when Elam came in to kick the go ahead FG my stomach dropped. And of course he missed it. That could have been a game changer.

joe

November 18th, 2009
8:21 pm

Looks like Falcons will continue a long time tradition–not have back to back winning seasons for their existence. Oh well.

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
8:22 pm

I’m back again!

Dawgs2009

November 18th, 2009
8:32 pm

The entire 2009 Draft was a bust. Where are the play-makers? He drafted stiffs from Furman and San Jose State. Do I dare question the great GM?

Larry

November 18th, 2009
8:33 pm

joe,

Come on Eeyore! They need four wins…at least let them play the games, man!

rknight

November 18th, 2009
8:46 pm

Thanks, Whitey. Still wondering why I didn’t get Sports Blog Snarky Comment of the Year. Then again,it is a sports blog. In Atlanta.

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
8:59 pm

Larry I’m so impressed that you can use large and important words, and that you keep a websters dictionary at your desk. However your limited knowledge of the game is still very obvious, your blind loyalty is overwhelming, and if you beleive Matt Ryan will ever take the Falcons to the next level, dream on! You see people like”Choke” and myself as being overly critical and not supporting the Falcons, but let’s look at the facts Larry, since 1966, the beginning of the Falcons existance, they’ve dropped the ball in every aspect, I’m not going to take it back that far though, let’s go back to 1989, when they took Deion, and one Brett Farve in the first two rounds, and failed to keep either one. Or do you want to discuss the George deal (Jeff George), when Indy and every other team knew he was a head case, I know he was, because I played against him in college. Or let’s talk about the Big one, I love Vick, but on a business level we made bad decisions. Should’ve took Brees in the second round, saved alot of money and kept plenty of cap money. Think about it Larry, this is your team 43 years and no SB’s Why Larry? Why?

DC in Loganville

November 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

Remember, this is a process! Much tougher schedule and there is a precedent for young QB’s to struggle in their second years. There was NO tape on Ryan last season for the opposition to prepare for, his strengths and weaknesses. There was PLENTY after last year. Ryan is an emerging leader, and will learn from these mistakes. Patience people!!!

BigMike Said

November 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
9:09 pm

Here is the first question of the IQ test:

They Falcons beat the Dolphins, Bears, Panthers and San Francisco, all their records are 4-5. So the Falcons are criticized for WINNING against teams with LOSING records.

So, which of the statements is a fact?

A. Falcons Choke
B. Falcons only beat bad teams
C IF Michael Vick were here, would would only beat good teams.
D If the falcons lost all the games to these teams, they would only be LOSING to teams with WINNING records.

Answer below

coop

November 18th, 2009
9:18 pm

BigMike, you’re a racist idiot. How’s that for real and honest douchebag?

You two define a fair chance as the black person gets the job. Regardless of performance. That makes you a racist and an idiot.

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
9:24 pm

It is amazing, our star QB was in jail, our coach walked out, and we were the laughing stock of the NFL, we were montioned on Leno.

Men inhereit teams in better shape and don’t achieve half as much in twice the time as Smitty and TD did. Look at the Rams, Detroit, Kansas city and Houston. You just don’t walk in a do what they did. So, naturally every decision is not going to work out, but are so far ahead of were they should be, they are due for a bad decision. It is not that you can’t criticize them, but anyone rational does not listen.

Singletary

November 18th, 2009
9:34 pm

Hey Jeff — I usually like the Vent It’s mind candy (sometimes mindless,) but folks often have insights & quirky lines that I haven’t thought of. Jeff, I’d be curious to know if the same person organizes the Vent (or if the office holder is different now) whenever it is changed? I’d also like to recommend that it be changed once every 24 hours during football season,

And I recently made a post similar to Choke’s analysis, but without the overt, bludgeoning conclusion. Dude, please tell me you aren’t Southern.

I do think having several Westers last year probably helped to take what would have been a solid season at 8-8 and turn it into wow11-5. And for the record, Mike Smith was quoted as saying that Burner was the 2008 MVP of the team, and I completely agree with him.

That being said, the Falcons are my team whoever is the quarterback, HC, owner, etc. It’s ingrained. And Giants better Dread the Pred(ator!)

Nativebird

November 18th, 2009
9:36 pm

Young QB’s need their VETERANS to step up sometimes and MAKE a play for you…MICHAEL FRIGGIN CAN’T CATCH A PASS UNLESS IT’S RIGHT IN HIS BREADBASKET JENKINS!

c’mon man. This is the NFL. be an athlete.

Back 2 Reality

November 18th, 2009
9:36 pm

Hey Dustin, its “root”, not route & also where were, not “who else”, leave the trailer a little earlier & catch that short yellow bus.

gdg73

November 18th, 2009
9:38 pm

Schultz, where was all this optimism when Vick was here? If Vick was struggling like Ryan is now, he would be crucified. I will be in the Dome with my Eagles #7 jersey when Philly comes to town.

The Dogfighter Returns

November 18th, 2009
9:41 pm

for those of you who are willing to support a losing franchise keep reminding people that peyton manning threw 100 ints in his first five years.

wake me up in 2015.

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
9:55 pm

gdg73, he did struggle, however he was in his 5th and 6th years. He was not crusified, but questions were asked, just like they are now.

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
9:58 pm

The Answer is D.

IF the falcons lost to all the 4-5 teams they beat, all thier records would be 5-4 and instead of “only beating teams with losing records”, we would be saying, “we are only losing to teams with winning records.”

Conclusions, these teams only have losing records BECAUSE WE BEAT THEM!!! Morons.

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
10:03 pm

gdg73, Vick struggled WORSE than Ryan, he might have had as many interceptions, but he had 10 fumbles a year to go along with it. In 2006, in the 4th Qrt, Vick did not throw on single TD pass all season. 16 games with ZERO TD pass during crunch time.

Also, Vick played 6 seasons for the Falcons, and got to the playoffs twice. You Vick guys speak as if he was anything above mediocre.

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
10:04 pm

Vick was medicore at best. 2 playoff in 6 seasons.

FalconUGAFan

November 18th, 2009
10:06 pm

I still to this day don’t understand why Vick has to be brought into a discussion about Ryan. We supported Vick when he was here (idiotic eye color comment ignored), but he is GONE! I suspect he doesn’t want to be here nor do the Falcons want him back. Is Ryan struggling..yes.. Have the Falcons ever had a succesful run- no…but do you really think anyone in the Falcons organization will just kiss 60-70 million dollars away after 1 1/2 seasons? If you do you are delusional. I just really don’t understand your points. I really don’t…

True Fan

November 18th, 2009
10:19 pm

I loved Mike Vick. He was exciting to watch. But Mike would love to be able to make half of the throws that Matt Ryan makes

U-no

November 18th, 2009
10:33 pm

Ryan will be OK! The Falcons will be OK! It was bound to happen, that there would be a let down of sorts, but it will not be forever. This team is a team, and they will survive the injuries and the learning curve that Ryan is having to deal with. The teams who play against us have made adjustements to counter Ryan’s strengths and Coach Smith will come up with the answers. Everything is going to be OK! Trust me on this one!

An Observation

November 18th, 2009
10:45 pm

From the Philadelphia Inquirer:

“Vick is 2 for 7 throwing the ball, for a total of 6 yards. He has run it 12 times for 27 yards. Vick has also come in and – hold onto your hats – handed off the ball, which is obviously something Donovan McNabb couldn’t have done instead.

At this point, Vick is just a curiosity as he stands on the sideline, like some tchotchke you spot on a mantelpiece and the owner tells you a long story about having it catch his eye in a bazaar in Budapest.

“Oh, that? That’s a Vick. Went to jail for mutilating dogs, but I found it oddly fascinating. Only a few of that variety in the world. See the arm? No, the left one. Reputed to have magic powers, but I think that’s just fable.”

It doesn’t really matter if the coaching staff has decided on its own that Vick is just another anchor lying on the deck, or if McNabb made it clear he won’t tolerate many interruptions. The effect has been the same.

This lack of work should allow Vick a lot more time for his community efforts, but those appear to have slacked off a bit. Lurie said that, regardless of the football end of things, the signing would be a failure if Vick were not “absolutely committed to be[ing] proactive” about his social responsibilities. Sorry, Jeff. His quarterback rating looks better than his reformer rating, regardless of how much money the team throws around to paper over the mess.

Not that any of it probably matters to Vick, who knew this purgatory was necessary before he could ascend to the better-paying paradise of a starting job somewhere else. It was nice of the Eagles to be facilitators, but, man, let’s move on already.”
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MY REASON FOR POSTING THIS IS TO SIMPLY SAY….LET’S ALL MOVE ON (POST THE VICK DISCUSSIONS ON THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER EAGLES’ BLOG) AND LEAVE THE AJC FALCONS’ BLOG FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT PLAYERS ON THE TEAM.

Brownie

November 18th, 2009
11:03 pm

Mr. Charlie – great comments about comparing the Falcons to other struggling franchises!

We live in a fast-food world…we want it now and we want it right, and we’ve got short attention spans. Everybody needs to just chill out. The Falcons have made tremendous strides, and will continue to get better as they years roll on.

2008: very easy schedule, new blood, new attitude, NO expectations…..11-5.

2009: very hard schedule (5 opponents coming off bye weeks), new blood all hurt, still a great attitude (except for fair weather fans), and TONS of expectations….probably 8-8 or 9-7 at best.

Now, as far as Matt Ryan goes, all of you ready to give up on him are morons. If you were to build the perfect QB, you’d want: tall, accurate arm, good & decisive decision-maker, leader on and off the field, intelligent, avid film-studier, great work ethic, energetic, unselfish. Ryan possesses ALL of these traits (and oh, by the way…Vick possessed NONE of them).

The only real concern I have about Ryan is that his passes sail on him. Even many of the ones the receivers catch are high causing them to have to jump to get. Trying to throw the ball too hard causes balls to sail, so he needs to relax and bring the ball down a little. A lot of young QB’s overthrow receivers until they either learn and gain confidence OR they’ll be selling insurance or real estate.

Most young QB’s are still fondling clipboards halfway thru their 2nd season…Ryan is way ahead of the learning curve, and all of his intangibles and talent will get him there.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
11:04 pm

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
gdg73, Vick struggled WORSE than Ryan, he might have had as many interceptions, but he had 10 fumbles a year to go along with it. In 2006, in the 4th Qrt, Vick did not throw on single TD pass all season. 16 games with ZERO TD pass during crunch time.

Also, Vick played 6 seasons for the Falcons, and got to the playoffs twice. You Vick guys speak as if he was anything above mediocre.

“There is a big difference than MAKING the playoffs and WINNING in the playoffs”

Also Ryan has multiple FUMBLES this season to go along with the 12 INTERCEPTIONS, against Dallas alone he had 2 FUMBLES.

Stop making excuses………….

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 18th, 2009
11:11 pm

Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Vick was medicore at best. 2 playoff in 6 seasons.

“MEDIOCRE? Le’t take a look at his resume”

- @ 22 Became 1st qb to beat Green Bay in playoffs

- @ 22 Became 1st Falcon qb to finish 2nd in MVP voting

- @ 22 Elected to Pro Bowl

- @ 24 Led team to 1 of 3 division titles in history

- @ 24 Led team to 3rd Championship game in team history

- @ 24 Elected to 2nd Pro Bowl

- @ 25 Elected to 3rd Pro Bowl

Mediocre? Then there are 28 mediocre starting qbs in the NFL, including the BUST.

Barkin'Dog

November 18th, 2009
11:23 pm

Matt “Choke” Ryan — ”DUMP THE CHUMP”

You’re one CHUMP I’d like to DUMP! Right off this blog. Enjoy yourself now, like a lot of Techsters, basking in your glory… for a short while. In another year or so you will all be so yesterday. Ryan will succeed, and you’ll have nothing to say, and the Dawgs will be back on top with GT looking up again. So, go ahead and soak it in while you can – it’s your day. Just don’t be surprised by the backlash when the tide turns… because it will turn.

Reid Adair

November 18th, 2009
11:41 pm

I think Daryl Johnston is right on this one. Matt Ryan has struggled the last couple of games, but for the long term, he’s going to be great.

Kendra

November 19th, 2009
12:27 am

Yes, the defense is truely not playing well, but what do you expect when you have all short cornerbacks. It is amazing that football is played for fun through youth and college with great compassion,but when there is money involved it is lost. If we are going to have a great season we need a new defensive coordinator who likes to blitz and not allow QB’s the comfort to throw the ball. It seems that the Defensive coordinator only likes to blitz when it is not very much needed. Falcon’s have to apply pressure and play with heart if they want to ever win a superbowl.Let’s Step Up Defense!

Haley Hutchinson

November 19th, 2009
12:45 am

Some of you boys get awfully fired up about this stuff. Almost makes me hot and bothered. (Almost).

The Ghost of Norm Van Brocklin

November 19th, 2009
1:14 am

Boo.

Lurking behind all of this Matt Ryan sophmore stuff is the “win at all costs” reality.

IF VICK had been QB of a championship caliber Falcons team, Blank and Company would have held onto him until the bitter end.

Conversely, whether or not Matt Ryan is the perfect model for the Chamber of Commerce is irrelevent if he doesn’t win.

When you win, you can be a THUG with immunity.

When you lose, it don’t matter if you are purer than Peyton Manning – you are history.

As Bear Bryant said when asked about his iconic status – “I had the virtue of winning”.

As Lombardi said, “winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”.

It’s nice that Matt Ryan is a nice boy, but he better win. It’s not nice that Mike Vick was – and is – a thug, but if and when he wins for a team, his thug-like ways will be forgiven.

Boo.

BeachGaBulldog

November 19th, 2009
1:54 am

Jesus Christ, it means another week of Kenny Albert! I can’t stand to hear his voice. The only thing just as bad is Thom Brennaman.

JSS

November 19th, 2009
3:40 am

For the millionth time, when one is a meticulous in being studious (as many bloggers declare about Matt Ryan’s preparation habits); but the same person never gains an advantage from that type of study, then there is an issue. Many of you continue to overlook this basic fact. His pre-draft psychological testing was supposedly off the chart. So pray tell, why doesn’t Matt Ryan learn from his mistakes?

Roger

November 19th, 2009
5:12 am

I dont think we should be jumping off the Matt bandwagon….but are the falcons ready to contend yet? No, in my opinion…Still need more help on defense(didnt help to lose the first round pick)..Offense is much better but still need more quality lineman too…We are close but not there yet…Actually if we didint finish in the playoffs, got better draft picks and chose well, would be better long term…I think this team is very very near being VERY good….the touch schedule doesnt work in the falcons favor this year too….I dont understand all the doom and gloom…future looks good…but with a few breaks the falcons could even do a lot of playoff damage this year.

Mr Charlie

November 19th, 2009
5:14 am

Matt “Choke” Ryan

November 18th, 2009
11:11 pm
Mr Charlie

November 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Vick was medicore at best. 2 playoff in 6 seasons.

“MEDIOCRE? Le’t take a look at his resume”

- @ Age 21, although he is drafted #1, inable to comprehend NFL play book, rides bench behind the Chris Chandler, the best Falcon QB in the history of the franchise.

- @ 22 Became 1st qb to beat Green Bay in playoffs (He won one game, then got spanked in the 1st round of the playoffs, Not bad, nothing “GREAT” by any stretch of the imagination.)

- @ 22 Became 1st Falcon qb to finish 2nd in MVP voting (Runner up in a Beauty Contest winner)

- @ 22 Elected to Pro Bowl (winner in a beauty contest, how many Pro Bowls did Brooking attend?, the poster child of average?)

@ 23 hurt.

- @ 24 Led team to 1 of 3 division titles in history (Ok, not he is rising, he has climbed to Steve Bartkowsi status one notch below Chris Chandler, the poster child for medocre).

- @ 24 Led team to 3rd Championship game in team history (See above)

- @ 24 Elected to 2nd Pro Bowl (another beauty contest winner)

- @ 25 Elected to 3rd Pro Bowl (see above)

- @ 26, league figures him out, Vick a one trick pony, can’t make adjustments. Fails to rid the Falcon Curse, lumping him next to Bartkowski, one notch behind Chris Chandler in Falcon History.

- @ 27 loses a step, and since he never was a “real” qb, starts to blame everyone but himself, displays true lack of leadership and character, it all comes do a head when he flips off his own fans. Shows a nack for finding trouble, proves critics right, his lack of character in interfears with his career.

- @ 29, Riding cannot unseat that superstar in waiting, Kevin Kolb for the #2 QB position.

Mediocre? Then there are 28 mediocre starting qbs in the NFL, including the BUST. Every year there are 10 playoff games, So in the 6 years, Vick won 2 of those, the other 28 won the rest of the 58 games. So, in his 6 years, he won less playoff games than the average QB. I think that pretty much sums is all up, SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE.

FACTS!!!!!

Bottom line, 6 seasons, 2 playoff wins, poster child of mediocre. If winning 2 playoff games annoints greatness, where is Rex Grossman and Trent Dilfer fall into the picture? All the other “accomplishments” were beauty contest winnings, because a Rush Limbaugh stated “the NFL badly wants a black QB to be successful.

Mr Charlie

November 19th, 2009
5:27 am

In Vicks 6 season, there were 60 playoff games, and 6 superbowls. He managed to win 2 playoff games, the other 28 QBs won the other 58 games. Vicks 2 playoff victories rank him slighly below the average of all the QBs in the NFL during those 6 years.

All his other “accomplishments” were just bestowed upon him by the NFL power who so badly wanted a black QB to be the face of the NFL.

Think about it, this guy was the highest paid player in the NFL, and his real accomplishments on the field pale in comparison to Trent Dilfer.

Next time you bring up pro bowls and voting awards to equate greatness, don’t forget Brooking. As a matter of fact, Brooking was a better linebacker than Vick was a QB. He got to a superbowl, and is still a starter. He has had a much better career, and how exaclty would you describe his accomplishments? Medocre?

Mr Charlie

November 19th, 2009
5:34 am

Again Choke, your silence on the FACT that Vick never threw a 4th quarter TD pass in 06 speaks volume. You can’t even spin that one. Cruch time, time for MV7 to earn that 100 million, and what does he do? ZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRROOOOOOOO TD passes……

You think if we were playing the Patriots that Belichek would have gone for it on 4th down to keep him off the field knowing the probablility of him throwing a TD pass was ZERO? Hahahah, Glad he is gone.

Alan

November 19th, 2009
7:13 am

I have to wonder if any of the naysayers have a life, where would they be if they couldn’t beat down the Falcons.

Maybe just maybe they will find a life somewhere because their is absolutely nothing to their present one, if you can call it that.

GO FALCONS AND GO SOUTHERN RUSH.

The Boss

November 19th, 2009
7:38 am

“Choke”, you parasitic pig!
Lose the hate, your an embarrassment to this city.
Matt Ryan is “white”, deal with it . He is our QB now and will be for many years. If you were a real Falcons fan, you would support this team regardless of his skin color.. But unfortunately your agenda is paramount to anything constructive.
Your boy is long gone, not just from “our” team, but soon to be the NFL. Deal with that too!
Now get back to work flipping those burgers.

Samuel

November 19th, 2009
7:45 am

I think most informed fans know Ryan will have growing pains. But after the 11-5 season last year, And a possibility of the playoffs we want him to play better now.

IceFan

November 19th, 2009
8:08 am

Schultz,
I really think it’s time you and every other blogger on AJC prevent “Choke” (including his alias names) from making entries. It’s not like he knows what the 1st Amendment is anyway, so he won’t know what he’s losing. He is ruining the blogs.

“Choke,” I would love to see you spew all your nonsense to Matt Ryan’s face, away from media eyes of course. And what will you have left in your life once Ryan becomes the perennial MVP he will become and the Falcons continually win playoff games? All you will have left is your lotion and your Mike Vick poster. Enjoy.

Now come back at me with some insignificant stats proving why Flacco is better than Ryan. I’m on pins and needles waiting for you to prove to me why I should stop supporting Ryan and the Falcons.

SHOTYME

November 19th, 2009
8:12 am

AGAIN I SAY CHOKE HAS A MAN CRUSH ON MATT RYAN

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
8:15 am

Choke, you’ve never answered all of our questions about why you are interested in the Falcons?
Please answer.

Your boy doesn’t play here any more. Aren’t you an Eagles fan, now?
Please answer.

When ConVick comes to the Dome on Dec 6th, you’ll be rooting for thre Eagles, right?
Please answer.

Do you really think the Dog Killer will ever completely please you again?
Please answer.

Choke, what is your story, really? YOUR story? Not No. 2’s story. YOUR STORY?
Please answer.

Why do you repeat yourself so much on here?
Please answer.

Where do you buy your smiley faces? Do you get a discount?
Please answer.

Who would Choke like to see QB the Falcons? And coach them? (But you’re not a fan so why would your care.)You’re a know-it-all. So…
Please answer.

OK, I’ve spend 2 minutes longer on you than I wanted. But go ahead and answer. I think you’ve got some ’splainin’ to do.

no name (required)

November 19th, 2009
8:27 am

Matt Ryan is good and his team always has a chance to win with him at quarterback.

Chris Chandler

November 19th, 2009
8:30 am

I was not even close to being the best quarterback in the history of the franchise. I was an effective quarterback on the best team. Steve Bartkowski was the best quarterback in the history of the franchise.

bigjohn

November 19th, 2009
8:37 am

Look at last years schedule…look at this years schedule. It was known from the get-go that the Falcons would have a tougher season than last year. Defenses have had a year to look at film of Ryan and know how to rattle him. He will adapt and have to trust his offensive line to protect him. Snelling looked good last week. Not Turner, but good. We’ll see on Sunday. I have predicted from the beginning of the season that the Falcons will probably go 9-7 or 10-6. I still stick by that prediction. The wild card is reachable but they will need help unless they can find a way to win the rest of their games and I don’t think that is possible. I pray they prove me wrong!

Falconian

November 19th, 2009
8:39 am

Ryan is the last guy I am worried about with this team. I am more concerned with the little girls we have constantly on the sidelines with boo-boos. Sam Baker, William Moore, and Jerious Norwood need to stop the circle jerk they’re having and get on the football field. Play football pansies!!

bigjohn

November 19th, 2009
8:40 am

I agree with “Chris Chandler”. Bartkowski was the best so far. Ryan has a long way to go to reach that level. Give him a few years to grow and he just might do it.

D-Block

November 19th, 2009
8:57 am

8-8 Final record for the Atlanta Falcons 2009 Season ends. Out with the (OLD) and in with the (New). We are in need for strong youthful
outside linebackers as well as defensive ends. Norwood also looks to be great trade bait for an establish corner back that can play for us righ away. Listen, I not saying I have given up on my home team Atlanta Falocns. What I’m saying is “Mr Blank” please listen to the public out cry for help. Larry Johnson was aval for 48hrs and with our Bunson Burner running out of gas we made not steps in the right direction towards a non-black out future. Go Falcons!

Hey D-Block

November 19th, 2009
9:03 am

Your post just gave me a headache while reading it. Maybe you should spend less time coming up with a cool login name and more time on completing sentences and making valid points like that douchebag Tech NERD “Choke”at least attempts to do.

gbal

November 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Daryl J. –

In case you read these…

I agree with you 100% on Matt. Will be fine.

Advice for you –

Dont feel like you have to talk every second of the broadcast. Some silence is fine. You rant and babble the same points to death and it really drags down the broadcast. You are not that great an analyst and the more you talk the more you show it.

Listen to some tape of Aeikman, Jaws, Gundy… and take some pointers. Your constant talking is liking to listening to the NFL Network where they all talk over each other.

PMC

November 19th, 2009
9:57 am

Johnston did a great job articulating the things he was doing well while not having a good day throwing the ball. You hear him checking into the right plays more often than not at the line which means he’s understanding what he’s seeing. He carries out his fakes which also helps the running game. The little things he’s not doing well right now are hurting him through the air. Footwork, Pocket Presence….these are things Bill Musgrave can and will iron out. Ryan is a competitor and he wants to win I have no reason to believe he won’t get his struggles worked out.

F-105 Thunderchief

November 19th, 2009
9:57 am

Bartkowski could throw it a mile with incredible touch, thread the tiniest needle. Chandler was a good leader and excellent technician that took a great team to the Super Bowl. Both very good, but Bart was the best.

j

November 19th, 2009
10:20 am

Big Mike is a big loser. Take your sh!t elswhere, like back to your trailer in Athens! You clearly don’t know football. Obviously, the only thing you do know is dating your family members! Don’t jump on the Falcons bandwagon when we are winning again.

ELVISINTHEHOUSE.

November 19th, 2009
10:31 am

No reason to worry about ryan? jeff thats just your oppinion,just because your the columnist and created a story, people suppose to believe you? this franchise have been sorry since 1966 and your saying don’t worry,yea right.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 19th, 2009
10:50 am

Gosh, why are all the good ole boys jumping on me – can we be friends :)

But, on a serious note – what does it have to do with your “great hope” being a B.U.S.T?

I mean it’s not like he has a stunt double or something.

- 5 straight games with a pick

- 10 picks in the last 5 games

- QB RATINGS of 68, 66, 46, 81 & 57

- Acting like he’s on “Dancing With The Stars”

I mean, did a demon possess his tiny soul and say “Matt throw the ball to the other team”? Damn that boy needs to see an exorcist or something.

“I see dead people” – that must be his motto.

If I wanted to throw a game, he would be my guy – no one is doing it better. He is a guru at that.

If he was at the Apollo he would definitately win, because nobody IMPERSONATES an NFL quarterback any better.

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

ELVISINTHEHOUSE.

November 19th, 2009
11:01 am

Choke,you got all these white folks fired up.There thinking you don’t like ryan because he’s white but hates vick because he’s black.So that kinda go both ways right? choke your the man.The reason i say that is because your sitting behind a key board but getting under peoples skin.So if thats the case,then that shows that the ones who respond to your comments are insecure and simple minded.There so simple minded they want you thrown off the blogs when indeed ryan is sorry.

DoctorNitecall

November 19th, 2009
11:16 am

I dont agree that Bartkowski was the best. Chander was good enough to get the Falcons to their only superbowl. Had it not been for the Eugene Rosbinson distraction the Falcons would have won the superbowl and beat John Elway. How do I know? They crushed them during that same regular season when they were en route to a 14-2 record. How do I know they would have won the game? Because the Falcons were the most dominant team left in football after the Falcons defeated the Minnesota Vikings in that years championship game. The Falcons in their history have blown two chances to be superbowl winners. 1st in 1980 when they had the best team in football and 2nd in 1998 when they were the remaining best team in football. Its a shame because the city should have experienced two Supebowl winners from what I saw. In 1980 Bartkowski had a bunch of weapons, but Leeman Bennetts conservative play calling in the superbowl did us in. However back to Matt Ryan, Matty Ice IS UNQUESTIONABLY THE BEST QB THE FALCONS HAVE EVER HAD. PERIOD. As I say in all of my BLOGS, Matt Ryan will someday be a first ballot hall of famer. Guaranteed.

JimDawkins

November 19th, 2009
11:21 am

No one should worry about Matt Ryan. Did you see the game in which the legend was born? last years Chicago game. If you didnt see, go back and roll the tapes. Matt orchestrated an improbable victory after the bears scored and took the lead, leaving the Falcons with only 11 seconds on the clock. Matt took those 11 seconds and took ORCHESTRATED THE MOST CLUTH DRIVE IN NFL HISTORY, because it took only one play to set it up. Much faster than John Elways ‘the drive against cleveland years ago’. Dont worry about Matt Ryan because he will be starting in the pro bowl this year.

LouSimpson

November 19th, 2009
11:56 am

Bartkowski WAS DEFINITELY THE BEST DEEP BALL PASSER the game has ever seen. He should have been a first ballot hall of famer but because the falcons stunk most of the years he played for them, Bart got no consideration at all.

Bill Simmons

November 19th, 2009
12:00 pm

Every one of Pat White’s Wildcat cameos is the exact opposite of Michael Vick’s cameos in Philly. With White, anything is possible. With Vick, it’s just depressing. This might be the single worst comeback that didn’t involve a porn star, wrestler, musician or Magic Johnson. Can we all agree that (A) he lost his legs; (B) pre-2007 Vick is gone and not coming back; and (C) it doesn’t matter where he plays next year, since he won’t be good, anyway? You know how you can block people on Twitter? I wish I could block all “Where is Michael Vick going in 2010?” stories from my eyes and ears. Doesn’t matter. We don’t care.

washedup

November 19th, 2009
12:14 pm

Lou. You are absolutely right about Bartkowski. .threw the deep ball better than anyone I’ve ever seen. Plus, he had Alfred Jenkins & Alfred “Action” Jackson to throw to. .later, Billy “White Shoes” Johnson. .Andrews & Cain. .fun team to watch & pull for. .before that, the so-called offensive line almost got him killed. .I’m surprised he can still walk.

M Anthony

November 19th, 2009
12:14 pm

I see all these blog coaches and know it alls on here. Interesting how everyone here does not play football yet has so much knowledge how the players should play. The falcons might try winning some games before you key board coaches get this team into the playoffs.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 19th, 2009
12:16 pm

Come on guys, it’s nice to hold onto your “HOPE”, but the bottom line he is a “JOKE”, before he will win a playoff game, you fools will have a “STROKE”, without Turner he is a “CHOKE”, you idiots love him and hate Vick because you are “BROKE”, and if you think Matty Lice can replace him, you need to puff some more of that “SMOKE”, this is not Pepsi, if you think there will be a new generation, you better smile and have a “COKE”, Joe Cool was the true roy, because Matty Hopeless was a “HOKES” and if you think this Noodle Arm is Nfl material, I say with a resounding “NOPE”, not even if he got a blessing from the “POPE”.

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

Snowman

November 19th, 2009
12:26 pm

Good afternoon Mr. Schultz!!! I wondered where you were. We have not heard from you during the Hawks excellent start and the ESPN NBA #1 ranking this week!!! I thought you might write a positive article about Coach Woodson or Joe Johnson or any other positive angle you could have come up with given the excellent start. However I am not surprised you have not. Well just in case folks have missed my response from your last entry, I thought I would re-send it.

Jeff just leave the Hawks alone. Go write about something or someone else…I am begging you!!! They have great “karma” currently and the BEST thing that you could do for the team is stay as far away from them as possible. Mr. Bradley, Mr. Smith and Mr. Sugiura have them covered. Go win your pulitzer another way, seriously!!!

Snowman

October 29th, 2009
4:07 pm
Well, well, well hello to “Hawk Nation” and I hope everyone had a good off season (even you Jeff although I was very surprised to see you were still with the paper…interesting). I wonder if there was another writer who wrote for the AJC who constantly criticized your writing and asked repeatedly to have you replaced and implied you have not done a good job even though things improved every year while you were there even to the point that you were among the the top 25% of the writers in the country. When not too long ago you were ranked at the absolute bottom, how you would like it?

I wonder if that writer would be “fair and balanced” (no pun intended) if every single frickin time they wrote about you, no matter what, the writer was saying how bad a job you are doing…hhhmmmm!!! Again, I wonder if you would think that writer had an agenda or it was personal. You have been an absolute jerk Jeff (seriously) when it comes to your balanced reporting on Woody. Not the Hawks or the current GM, just Wood…hhmmmm!!! With all of the current talent out there with Newspapers closing, cutting back and so forth, I am certain the AJC could find a much better writer than you and even you would have to agree to that, right? Take Tony K and Mike Wilbon to name a couple from our paper here locally and I know Tony has resigned from the Post. By the way, there talent would CRUSH yours. Why don’t I ever see you on any of the national shows for geust spots and expertise occasionally (like they do on the Sports Reporters or Around the Horn or the Colin Cowher show?), Just wondering?

Jeff, you should be removed, Fired!!! If I or you had a child in a physics or calculus class, who got off to a very, very slow start, and over the school year, studied hard, asked for help, kept working, met with the teacher, got some tutoring, stayed positive, formed a study group and over the year their grades got better and better and by the end of the school year was one of the top 8 students in a 32 student class, I and you would praise and compliment and really appreciate what they has accomplished!!! This is exactly what coach Woodson has done over a 6 year period with the Hawks. That is a hard job and he has done very well, given the degree of difficulty!!! Again, I live in a town, that has a football team, the Skins, whose coach and team has been terrible and we are not as hard on him as you are on Woodson. He deserves it, Woody does not.

Finally, that is why I agree with Russ, you are unfair, and if anyone should be replaced it’s you!!! In fact, I wish AJC ran a Poll; here are a couple of questions: should Jeff Schultz be fired? If AJC could get a top writer or whatever your position is, should he be replaced? Who thinks Jeff is fair and balanced in his coverage of coach Woodson. I am done with asking you to be fair, I have moved to wanting you fired!!! I wonder if the Mayor, Shirley Franklin, Mr. Brave, Hank Aaron, Mr. Hawk, Dominique, and the honorable Andrew Young feel the same as allot of us that you should be fired or at a minimum extremely unfair in your writing about coach. I am the “official band leader” for you being removed completely or to another part of the paper at a minimum. Again, I would feel a little different if you criticized other parts of the organization equally, then I could conclude it was not personal.

Kudos to Russ, Derek, Mitch!!! Remember the Big 3 (Boston, Cleveland and Orlando) are really, really good. The Hawks could win 50 plus games this season and be better than last year and still lose in the 2nd round and the season still be a whopping success and coach should get a ticker tape parade, c’mon who are we kidding, it was not long ago we were the Clippers and now we are like a Utah or better!!!

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
1:03 pm

Choke,–

Can’t you read. What about my answers?

You really Choke when it comes to answering what you don’t want to answer. Too hard for you I guess.

You just want to play the roll of pot-stirrer and smart-a$$.

Then you lovvvvvvveee to come back and say “Nobody loves me. Oh no!”

You can’t have it both ways. Either you care or you don’t. The bettin’ man says you care, but the child in you says you need to have your tantrums.

When the Falcons get to double-digit victories, things won’t be happy in your mom’s basement.

Good thing there will be plenty of true Falcons fans on here to enjoy a good finishing kick.

Then maybe some will come looking for you with a kick to your groin.

Have a nice day.

Matt Ryan a WINNER

November 19th, 2009
1:07 pm

Hey Choke Ryan lets see your blog Monday after Falcons beat Giants.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 19th, 2009
1:39 pm

The reality is this team is in big trouble, just like in 2000 (before Vick) & 2007 (After Vick). That just proves the star power that Vick brought.

Look at the Panthers, for an example. The spotted the Falcons 3 games, by starting 0-3 and now if they beat the Dolphins tonight, the Falcons fall to 3rd place in the division after they lose to the Giants.

By the Falcons losing to the Giants, they fall behind Philly, Carolina, Green Bay, Giants, Cowboys and could be tied with San Fran for the 2 wild card spots.

This guy is not NFL material.

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
1:58 pm

Choke-

Still no answers to my previous questions. All must be answered to fully complete the task.

Choke- You Skeerrrrrrddddd?

DUMP THE CHOKE!
DUMP THE CHOKE!
DUMP THE CHOKE!

The blogger of course.

Yellow smiley face!

Jimmy Hullender

November 19th, 2009
2:01 pm

Matt Ryan is the next Trent Edwards: That is, Edwards had a nice first season where he got everybody’s hopes up, and then the rest of the league figured him out and Edwards was never able to recover. Buffalo is going to have to cut Edwards and draft another QB becuase Edwards is no longer a usable QB in the NFL. Same thing is going to happen — IS HAPPENING — with Matt Ryan. Let’s called it The Delayed Bust syndrome.

Quantavious

November 19th, 2009
2:12 pm

Mykull Vic iz da best ever Eet Moor Chikin’

PullitzerPrize

November 19th, 2009
2:43 pm

I dont understand the BLOGGERS here. Matty Ryan just had last year one of the greatest seasons ever for the 1st year qb (from an intelligence perspective NOT according to touchdowns and yards). His IQ at QB is beyond that of a genious. To culminate his brilliance at quarterback, Ryan won the rookie of the year award in a landslide vote. Now all of a sudden, people, most of the bloggers and fans alike are treating Ryan as though his last name is Leaf. Its riduculous because what I took from his rookie year is that he is headed for the hall of fame once his playing career is over. Thats all you really could gather from last year. He guided his team to an 11-5 record after the Mike Vick/Bobby Petrino nightmares. He comes into his second year and storms out of the gate 4-1. If you freeze that moment in time his record was 15-6 one of the all-time great records starting out at quarterback for a young player. Then he hits the WALL, which is also referred to as the Sophmore slump. Now everybody is writing him off and acting as though he is a complete bust ala Ryan Leaf. Ive got news for you guys and gals. When Matt Ryan comes out of his slump he will regain his standing and stature as the best quarterback currently in the association. Just be patient folks, he return to his all-pro, all-world, hall of fame calibre. Its just a matter of time but you will notice it. In closing, Matt Ryan will win the MVP award of the league next season. Period.

hiramsaint

November 19th, 2009
2:59 pm

falcon in kc……double digit wins ? oh , i get it , your talkin’ maybe next year

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 19th, 2009
3:03 pm

If it looks like a duck (5 straight games with a pick)

If it walks like a duck (10 picks in last 5 games)

If it smells like a duck (68,66,46,57 QB RATINGS)

If it quacks like a duck (lost 3 of last 4 games)

Then hunters – it must be a duck.

Time for a good ole boy barbeque………… :)

“DUMP THE CHUMP”

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
3:19 pm

Choke-

Have some guts.

Answer my questions.

You’re the true True Duck A$$

Vick is Terrible

November 19th, 2009
3:21 pm

“Choke”:

Vick’s passer ratings by season: 62.7, 81.6, 69, 78, 73.1, 75.7, 39.6 for a career rating of 75.6.

Matt Ryan’s Passer ratings by season: 87.7, 78.8 for a career rating of 84.1.

Listen, I get that Matt Ryan is struggling right now but if you’re going to compare him to someone, at least picks someone with better stats. Ryan WORST season (which could easily get better if he turns it around) is less than 3 points less than Vick’s BEST season.

You are a complete idiot.

KentWatson

November 19th, 2009
3:24 pm

In spite of all the flak Ryan is taking right now for his mediocre play and despite all the venom brought on by the “Choke” idiots, MATT RYAN will win the league MVP award next season. I know this because Matt Ryan won an impressive trophy last year (offensive rookie of the year). That trophy is in Ryans trophy case. His next trophy will be MVP Honors next year. When that trophy is WON, that will finally shut up all the “Choke” dummies.

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
3:26 pm

hiramsaint

falcon in kc……double digit wins ? oh , i get it , your talkin’ maybe next year

Hiram- Why are you over here? Falcons aren’t your team, either. Just like Choke. Enjoy your team. Enjoy your year. I like your team. Let’s see how it gones in January/February. Sure you’re the NFC favorite. Enjoy the ride. Stay off ours. Who dat? Stay out of our neighborhood.

bigeasy830

November 19th, 2009
3:48 pm

Matt Ryan’s struggle started the last 3 regular season games of last season and the play-off game, so it is clearly a pattern and not a slump. matt Ryan’s lack of arm strength limits the offense. See it for what it is, Matt Ryan s not that bad, but he is also not as great as you people thought he was. he will never be a Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, or Joe Flacco, hahahaha. He may be and adequate NFL QB but he is not Super Star. He cannot carry a team. He can only manage a game against subpar competition.

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
4:39 pm

Just so you know.

Here’s a detailed QB comparison between Payton Manning, Matt Ryan and Troy Aikman. All were 1st overall Draft Picks. This comparison details their first two NFL seasons…

Year Rec Att Comp % Yds TD Int Rate
Manning 1998 3-13 326 575 56.7% 3739 26 28 71.2
Ryan 2008 11-5 265 434 61.1% 3440 16 11 87.7
Aikman 1989 0-11 155-293 52.9% 1749 9 18 55.7

2nd year Career Rating

Manning 1999- 13-3 331-533 62.1% 4135 28 15 90.7 95.7
Ryan 2009 5-4 178-298 59.7% 2008 14 12 78.8 84.1 (Through 9 games)
Aikman 1990 7-8 226-399 56.6% 2579 11 18 66.6 81.6

Ryan won double-figure games in his first season
It took ’til year two for Manning
It took ’till year 4 for Aikman

Aikman had a HOF WR and RB in Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith
Manning has/had likely HOF WRs in Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, plus Eg James/J Addai
Ryan has a very good WR in Roddy White and HOF TE Tony Gonzalez- Good RB in Turner

Aikman had a very good-to-great defense
Manning’s defenses have been so-so to good, Once in a while better than good
Ryan’s defenses are still building- not nearly a finished product

Manning and Aikman won Suber Bowls. That’s where Ryan wants to get. He will need help. Ryan will also need to turn the corner in in soph season in the NFL, and do it soon.

Let’s see how this plays out.

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

Check that first overall. Manning and Aikman were. Ryan a couple of picks later. Still pretty close

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
4:47 pm

1st QB taken in the respective years

Jimmy Hullender

November 19th, 2009
4:52 pm

Aikman and Manning improved from their first season to their second season. Ryan has regressed from his first season to his second season. It’s the Delayed Bust Syndrome. Falcons will need to draft a QB next year to hedge their bets against Ryan’s eventual bust.

GuyRichardson

November 19th, 2009
5:01 pm

Jimmy Hullender: You are wrong about Ryan. Ryan has not regressed at all. You are deceived. Did not Ryan not start the year 4-1. Is that a regression? You are not being fair in judging Ryan because there is enough blame to go around. Ryan has been receiving an enormous amount of pressure and his O-line is not giving him enough time to find open receivers. Thus the interceptions or picks. Secondly, the play calling has been atrotious over the last four games, which to me, is inexplicable. Thirdly, there have been injuries…Turner and Norwood in particular. Fourthly there have been a few dropped balls AND the wide receivers are not getting enough separation to free themselves open. When Ryan DOES have time to throw, the receivers are covered like a blanket. THIS IS NOT ENTIRELY RYANS FAULT. Ryan should get probably at least 50% of the blame though because has made a ton of poor throws. Add it up in my opinon Ryan has not regressed; he is simply in a slump. If Ryan comes out of the slump this week against the Giants and if the receivers get open in their routes and catch the football, then we should and will win every remaining game on the slate. Final record:
12-4. Translation: Imrpovement over last years 11-5 record.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 19th, 2009
5:05 pm

I understand a few you good ole boys are a little upset with me, so to make it up to you, here is a little something so we can be friends again :)

Once upon a time, there lived a joke;

His arm made of noodles, specializes in chokes.

Throwing picks, oh he’s the best;

Quick slant guru, oh there’s no contest.

20 yard bombs, to him that’s deep;

Back to Boston College, let’s pack up this creep.

From pro bowls, to winning playoff games;

Are you kidding, this chump is pathetic and lame.

He runs a forty, like the slowest snail;

Stinking up the joint, he has a new smell.

“DUMP THE CHUMP” :)

Kendra

November 19th, 2009
5:09 pm

GO BIG MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stafford sux

November 19th, 2009
5:12 pm

The problem is the defense doesn’t hit since Brooking ( the greatest Falcon of all – time ) isn’t here to fix all of their mistakes. But that’s what you get for being cheap. Ryan will be fine if he doesn’t let the 15 bloggers on here get in his head. Yes ,there is only 15 people who keeps changing their names. That’s all.

ThunderboltPatterson

November 19th, 2009
5:17 pm

Stafford sux: you are exactly right. Losing Brooking was devastating because he has led the Falcons in tackles every year he has been with us. Secondly, we lost James Foxworth and Lawyer Malloy, both standout defensive specialists. Those three losses have proved too difficult to overcome. That is the reason why we have a 5-4 record. Its true Ryan has been pathetic, but had we had those defensive players from last year our record would be at least 8-1 or 9-0. Ryan will soon be enshrined in footballs hall of fame in Canton, Ohio just as soon as his playing days are over. But until then he will struggle to find his rhythm again.

Falcon in KC

November 19th, 2009
6:24 pm

Too bad you have no “Bust,” Choke… (um, Jimmy). Sounds like you could use a little Bust! They ran out right of bust when they came to you, and you were left with the scraps of ConVick.

Mike

November 19th, 2009
9:25 pm

I am guilty of doubting Matt Ryan. Some people say it is his arm that is the problem, then explain Drew Brees. His decision making is what has driven me crazy lately. Even though he is different than Vick, the one similarity I see are costly mistakes mixed in with flashes of brilliance. I do tend to forget that Brees, Rivers, and few others struggled their first few years. Brees looked like he was a complete bust at one time. The one thing no one can knock Matt Ryan for is his work ethic. If he makes a bone head play come Sunday, I am sure I will have some really nice things to say about him like I did last Sunday. I am not sure what the future will bring. I hope all the experts are right about him. We fans are suppose to have patience, but patience and passion usually do not come together. I know we have holes to fill, but that does not make me want to look beyond this year. After the loss on Sunday I felt like our season was done. A win this week would get rid of a lot of those thoughts. Last year after the Bears game I told my son after the kick “These Birds are For Real”. I have not seen a game this year that has made me feel that again. I am yet to see them come out with the intensity this year that they did against the Saints and Panthers at home last year. We can say schedule or what ever, but so far what I have seen is a very average team. Even in the playoff loss last year, until the third down converstion where Arizona put the game away, I felt like they had a shot. This team this year has not shown that. If each player just elevates his play just a notch, and plays every play with from whistle to whistle with max intensity, and they lose….atleast us fans can still believe that they have a shot. And we still have a team we can believe in.

Jo

November 19th, 2009
9:30 pm

Hey i think Daryl is kinda right the falcons are in the hunt but I’ve been watching the Falcons since 1980 and they have a way of blowing it so we hope that this season they turn things around but if they don’t I won’t be surprised.

Jo

November 19th, 2009
9:35 pm

Hey take it easy on Daryl he’s a very articulate and viable announcer I had the pleasure of meeting him recently when they did the washington atlanta game if he happens to read this Daryl thank you for being nice to us during veterans appreciation day your the best Moose rules.

Maegan1979

November 20th, 2009
3:27 am

I also agree on that Ryan has a long way to go
he only need a few years..

IQ Test || inspirational quotes

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
9:24 am

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/michaelvick/dp-vick-2003-no-sophomore-slump-for-vick,0,5864047.story

The key words in this link…..NO SOPHOMORE SLUMP FOR VICK

“Vick will shine again”

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
9:31 am

Its really good to see that SOME people are starting to realize that Ryan isn’t as good as they thought he was.

I pointed this out a long time ago….and everyone knows it.

“The Great Mike Vick Has Returned”

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
10:00 am

Atlanta Falcons = 7-9

Hey Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
10:26 am

You need to find yourself a girl, mate.

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
10:35 am

Hey Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
10:26 am
You need to find yourself a girl, mate.

————————————————————

I happen to have a wife, mate.

“Vick will shine again”

Sid

November 20th, 2009
11:00 am

The great Mike Vick has returned……………..??? Lol, lol, roflmao…………….lol, lol, lol, lol roflmao

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
11:02 am

@Sid

Yeah, i said it. you watch and see

Sid

November 20th, 2009
11:04 am

Vick Supporter: Have you considered a career in comedy? They do have auditions at “The Punch Line”. You and “Choke” could do like a Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis act. Or maybe even a Smothers Brothers approach, but, that presents a dilemma because either one of you would be perfect to play the idiot of the two.

Sid

November 20th, 2009
11:07 am

What’s Vick’s stats so far this year…………like a 37. qb rating……..27 yards rushing……..wasn’t his longest pass 4 yards?? I would have started Matt Schaub over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
11:13 am

Sid: Get your jokes in now…you should…..Vick isn’t playing much because the Eagles have a franchise QB…McNabb has earned every right to start. Vick will have his time again….and he’ll DEFINITELY be better than Matt “Noodle Arm, Field Goal, Mr.Checkdown” Ryan. i gurantee it Thats what people like you do…kick people when they’re “down”. The thing is, Vick is making millions while you’re driving a tractor somwhere with a dip in your mouth, yet you think you can judge someone, lmao.

You’re a piece of dirt.

Regards,

Vick Supporter

Sid

November 20th, 2009
11:55 am

Vick Supporter: So you are saying Vick is not a franchise QB? Glad you finally realize it. Look, the unfortunate simple truth is Vick won’t be able to stay drug free and I imagine he will be arrested again within 3 years. That’s what he is, dirt……..and according to you I know dirt. You mention “kicking someone when their down”, yet you and your fellow Ryan bashers are doing that very thing, judging someone struggling. I have no idea if Ryan will turn out to be a Peyton Manning or a Ryan Leaf but I support our team win, lose, or draw. Someone wrote earlier that Ryan was responsible for 50% of the Falcons woes this year………I just don’t get that. We all know our defense is rebuilding (not sure why we got rid of some key players and I don’t mean Brooking), our O line is not measuring up to the job they did last year, key injuries, Elam not producing, a very tough schedule…….why all the Ryan bashing?
I see one blogger constantly repeat “dump the chump” without any input on what they would do in place of Ryan. They think Redman or Wilson should start? Do they want to trade for someone? Do they just want to cancel the rest of the games and see who we can get in next years draft…..?
Seriously, go get on a Chicago blog and jump on their “Dump Cutler” bandwagon. The fact is right now we have a winning record and are only in contention for a wild card spot unless the Saints go unexpectedly and terribly south. We needed to win that Carolina game and the ENTIRE team left that win on the field in Charlotte, they know it. The Giants need a win this weekend every bit as badly as the Falcons, it will be a tough game but I think we can pull it out. But for that to happen the ENTIRE teams has to show up.

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

@Sid

I see you made a comment about “Ryan Bashers”……you telling me that he doesn’t deserve to be criticized right now? I know Vick SURELY was even if he had a good game. With the “kicking someone when he’s down” comment, you’re judging Vick like he’s the starter in Philly….his stats right now are irrelevant. Judge the man when he’s a starter….that’s what people are doing to Ryan, yet you throw out Vick’s QB Rating yet he’s getting limited plays per game.

Also, when did I say that Vick wasn’t a franchise QB? Obviously he was/still is…..Vick put the Falcons on the map and the team had been around for over 3 decades when Vick arrived. NO ONE IN THIS TOWN HAD ANY INTEREST IN THE FALCONS UNTIL VICK CAME, AND THATS EVEN AFTER THE “LMAO…SUPER BOWL “RUN”" LMAO. Admit it man….Vick put this team on the map, and he’s a WINNER. You can talk about his last 2 seasons (which you “fans” say it was COMPLETELY his fault, yet with Noodle..I mean Ryan you now say its a “team game”,lol), yet Vick STILL has a winning record as a starter…..explain that if you’re man enough.

I defend and support Vick because I believe in redemption and he is my favorite QB. People call me a racist because I support him, yet I would do the same thing if someone of a different race went thru the same thing (after they’ve paid their debt to society first). Thats why I believe Vick will be a better player than he was the first time around. Vick needed to be humbled….and he is. Besides all of the BS decisions that the team made personnel wise, Vick felt he was “the man”, and Mr.Blank had something to do with that (pushing him in a wheechair, etc etc etc).

He’s still a better QB than Ryan, skill wise. Ryan only has the edge overall because he’s playing and Vick isn’t. Ryan will be an average QB at best….and average QBs can win in this league (Dilfer) with the right pieces around them. The only problem is, the Falcon’s management will find a way to F it up. Never fails. this town doesn’t know what to do or how to treat a Superstar. Never has, never will.

“Vick will shine again”

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
2:09 pm

From an ESPN article:

2. Atlanta Falcons at New York Giants: This isn’t an elimination game for the two NFC playoff contenders, but it sets the stage for what we’ll see in the NFC for the next month. New Orleans and Minnesota have all but wrapped up the top two seeds in the conference. There are seven teams with records of 5-4 or 4-5 playing for the final four spots, and many of those teams face each other down the stretch. The Giants got a double break in Week 10. First, they rested their injured defense during the bye. Second, the Eagles and Cowboys lost.

The Falcons have major problems at left corner, their offense really misses injured running back Michael Turner and quarterback Matt Ryan is throwing a bit too high to his left. Those are worries.

Key line in the paragraph….

“Matt Ryan is throwing a bit too high to his left. Those are worries”

That line, my friends, proves my point again….LACK OF ARM STRENGTH. When he throws the ball to his left, the balls lack velocity.

Since you people have already “annointed” him as the next Manning or Brady, looks like you guys are wrong. Manning and Brady both have strong arms. Not Ryan

Sid

November 20th, 2009
2:32 pm

The QB position requires someone with intelligence to succeed at it………….Vick doesn’t come close to Ryan in that department. I mentioned the bashing of Ryan, now you mention criticism……..now you change your position? I am all for honest evaluation and critic of players but for the most part a certain amount of people are only here to continue to beat the drum for Vick and BASH Matt Ryan. You say Vick felt like he was “the man”, well he was for a while but nobody had anything to do with his decisions to torture dogs and organize a cross state gambling operation than himself. The man had millions and he chooses that? Now that just reeks of intelligence doesn’t it. Pushing the guy in a wheelchair? He gave him a push, not a Kingdom. You scoff at the Falcons Super Bowl year………I notice Vick never took us to the big game. Tony Dungy begged Philadelphia to add him to the roster. You say no one in this town had any interest in the Falcons until Vick came……? Man, believe it or not that is the stupidest thing you have conjured up yet. I would say it should be more that YOU were not a Falcons fan until Vick showed up. Your damn straight it’s a team game. Vick’s success, albeit limited, was achieved with the blood, sweat, and tears of many others. His lifetime winning percentage is about .500, less than Matt Ryans right now. Vick and Ryan are worlds apart and I would be happy if they both did well, but Vick doesn’t play for my team anymore, and never will again. No one will ever wear the #7 jersey for the Falcons again, it is soiled forever. Philadelphia will probably trade Vick at the end of the year, probably for a 3rd round draft pick. Vick could help some teams even though he is not a prototype QB, maybe Oakland. I doubt Cleveland would touch him.

Sid

November 20th, 2009
2:35 pm

You dumb ass…………….the article said he was passing too high to the left………in other words overthrowing the ball………….that doesn’t equate to lack of arm strength……….jeez

Sid

November 20th, 2009
2:52 pm

Vick supporters: There are a lot better ways to get behind Vick than the Atlanta sports blogs.
You could make donations in his name to PETA, the ASPCA, the NAACP,
your local county humane society, Gamblers Anonymous, and AA.

This link will take you right to the Eagles blogs, see how bad they are bashing Vick up there…..!!
http://tinyurl.com/yjl9k5y

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
3:19 pm

Sid

Do you think Vick cares what people say about him now? He’s been thru it all man. He’s above that BS now

MATT RYAN'S FACIAL HAIR

November 20th, 2009
3:40 pm

I CAN’T GROW

ERich42

November 20th, 2009
3:40 pm

Matt Ryan needs to toughen up ans stop being such a good old boy. He is to soft and plays scary teams are now figuring out that if you hit him or pressure him a couple times he is going to throw a couple picks. The media built this average qb up to be greatness and looks like its time for him to come back to reality.

ERich42

November 20th, 2009
3:45 pm

Sid you are probably sitting behind the key board with your hood on. Listen Vick is still better than Matty Ice I mean slushy because he is melting fast. If Vick would have had the kind of talent Ryan was given he would have have had much more success and he did not study as hard as Ryan. So why don’t you make a donation to Matt Ryan’s coming back to reality party.

ERich42

November 20th, 2009
3:50 pm

One more thing Sid, Vick has played less than 10 snaps this year and I guarantee it he gets more applause that Matt Ryan on Dec. 6 in the GA Dome especially if he keeps blowing games and throwing multiple picks in games.

ThunderboltPatterson

November 20th, 2009
3:56 pm

Those Ryan bashers the idiot Vick Supporters and the idiot Matt “Choke” Ryan bloggers are fools. They keep saying “The Great Mike Vick has Returned”, which is foolishness and they are slamming Ryan. What you fools dont realize is WHO IS IN A BETTER POSITION, Ryan or Vick? Vick is nothing more than a benchwarmer who sits quietly on the bench for 60 minutes per game. He gets absolutely zero minutes of playing time and might get one token play per month just to keep his britches from freezing. Whereas Ryan is a starting at qb who is enjoying playing for 60 minutes. He is also the reigning “Offensive Rookie of the Year” with all the perks that go with that as long as all the endorsement deals that go with that. Ryan is rich with a lucrative contract and he is also in a mild slump that I assure you he will snap out of on Sunday against the Giants when the Falcons crush the G-Men. Which of these players (Vick or Ryan) is in a better position? It can be Vick because Vicks pilot light has gone out and its pretty much lights out on his career while Ryan is absolutely assuredly headed for the Hall of Fame in Canton Ohio as soon as his playing days are over. So once again whose career is in better shape? You should know the answer to that question but if you dont then you are dumber than Vick.

ERich42

November 20th, 2009
4:00 pm

Vick Supporter you are a great American…To bad the red necks are out in rare form to challenge our intelligence. This was classic:Matt “Noodle Arm, Field Goal, Mr.Checkdown” Ryan

SilentAssasin

November 20th, 2009
4:27 pm

For all the Vick Supporters and the Matt “Choke” Bloggers: put this in your crack pipe and smoke it:

Ryan’s meltdown will end this Sunday against the Giants with a win.
Ryan will bounce back next season and throw for over 5,000 yards.
Ryan will someday have a statue of himself at the Gerogia Dome.
Ryan will lead the Falcons to a superbowl Vick-less victory next year!
Ryan will win the league MVP award next season.
Ryan will be enshrined in Canton, Ohio soon after his playing days are
over.
Ryan is the best quarterback the Falcons have ever had. Period.

JuliusCesaer

November 20th, 2009
4:58 pm

I really dont care what anybody says about the Falcons. I think the reason why we stink right now is that we lost three standout defensive players from a year ago. If we still had them, the Falcons would be undefeated. These three guys should have never been let go because we are suffering in those areas which are vacated by those players who are no longer here. The replacements for them are simply not doing the job. Keith Brooking, Lawyer Malloy and James Foxworth. Like Ive said many times, if we had those three guys here playing for te Falcons this season, we would win the superbowl this season. With those three guys we are better than the Saints and the Colts. Without them, we are a middle of the road football team (probably 16th in the league). We let go too much talent and we dont have adequate replacements for their positions by the folks who are currently playing their spots. If we could bring them back, we would immediately win the superbowl.

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
9:48 pm

“This was classic:Matt “Noodle Arm, Field Goal, Mr.Checkdown” Ryan”

Thanks for the compliment, ERich42. I’ve been setting trends on these blogs for 3 years now.

“Vick will shine again”

Vick Supporter

November 20th, 2009
9:57 pm

Damn…my HAWKS is dunkin all over folks,lol.

Keep it up HAWKS!

MATT "CHOKE" RYAN

November 21st, 2009
4:37 am

Boy, I sure am an idiot….after looking up some REAL stats not just the stats I WANT to see, makes me realize that the greatest passers in the history of the NFL also had slumps in their second seasons! Lets make some comparisons:

Matt Ryan QB Rating the last 5 games

68.4
66.1
46.6
81.1
57.4

AVG = 63.92

Dan Marino (3rd Season, Games 5-9)

57.4
55.7
107.0
65.2
36.3

AVG = 64.32

Brett Farve (1993 Season, Games 2-5)

56.1
49.1
69.0
56.1

AVG = 57.575

Boy, those QB’s really sucked. I’m sure glad that their respective teams “DUMPED THE CHUMP” or else they might have ended up winning something like the majority of their games or some super bowls, and HOF status. Let me ask you “CHOKE”ster, and you may be right, but what if your wrong? We “dump the chump” and lose another HOF QB????

All the greats struggle at times early in their careers, with very few exceptions. Even Peyton had a time in his 4th season where in a 4 game stretch his average was in the 60’s….So I’m sick of you pointing out stats that really have no bearing on what MIGHT happen. But seriously, how the hell do you even consider pulling a franchise QB who has won the majority of his games, and has a 60+ completion percentage?

Riddle me that.

Sid

November 21st, 2009
7:42 am

Vick Supporter: NFL historians my ass…………….roflmao…….!!! In your fantasy Vick has already QBed the Falcons to the Super Bowl, hello, hello, earth to your dumb ass brain, it didn’t happen! You can’t or won’t give credit to a Falcons team that earned and deserved the right to the SB. You say we could still win if Ryan were hurt and we had Turner running the football……..you just don’t know football my challenged friend. Yes, this is a blog, say anything you want, but if you want to bash our QB what is the point it bringing up Vick, he ain’t here and he ain’t gonna be here. If you have a better plan than Ryan as our field general then spit it out. You will be doing this same thing when Vick is out of football in probably as little as 2 years. I was once a Vick supporter, but I also supported the entire team. You basically ignore the other 54 players who worked their asses off. Vick did some good things and was exciting to watch, a gifted athlete no doubt. But, unless I am mistaken, his only remaining tie to Atlanta is a home in foreclosure. He has lost a step and will never have the moves he once had, not being a prototype QB he just doesn’t have the passing accuracy to compliment what his legs have left. Face it, your mad as hell that Vick let you down and you just can’t get a grip on how someone with so much could throw it all away for so little. Coddled by ownership………?? I just don’t get that. He was continually being told to be careful with his off field activities. Truly, if he were being coddled Michael Vick would never have hung the first dog from a tree. Immature? No, a sick son of a bitch. I am all for Vick getting his life back together. I would like to see him work with youth and teach them NOT to be like Mike. But it seems odd that we aren’t hearing about any philanthropistic activities. He let down his team, he let down his city, he let down his brothers and sisters.
You say Ryan can’t throw left………..hmmmm, I remember one hell of a throw in a game against Chicago last year, I believe that was to the left…….yep, that’s correct 26 yards on a string to the left sideline, stopping the clock with 1 sec left. Pretty good throw ay?
The Falcons made the playoffs in Ryan’s rookie season, you say Vick had us in the NFC championship in his second year. There you go again, talking like Vick lined up against the defense all by himself. You really do believe this superman crap don’t you. One last thing, you say Vick is a franchise QB…..?? $1.625 million to warm the bench. That’s got franchise all over it.

Personal note to ERich42: I just won’t get in a battle of wit with you, just not fair to fight an unarmed man.

GroundedFalcon

November 21st, 2009
11:20 am

I agree with everything ED SAID!
Adversity brings out the best or the worst in a team.
Are the Falcons a great organization? We shall see!!!!!!!!
GOOD LUCK FALCONS!!! I’m always pulling for yall!

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 21st, 2009
12:23 pm

Sid

November 20th, 2009
2:35 pm
You dumb ass…………….the article said he was passing too high to the left………in other words overthrowing the ball………….that doesn’t equate to lack of arm strength……….jeez

vs Chicago 68 QB RATING………….2 PICKS

vs Dallas 66 QB RATING……………2 PICKS

vs Saints 46 QB RATING……………..3 PICKS

vs Redskins 81 QB RATING……………1 PICK

vs Carolina 57 QB RATING……………..2 PICKS

- Last 6 games 11 PICKS

- 6 Straight games with a PICK

- 5 Straight games of sinking QB RATINGS

- Lost 3 out of last 4 games

- 22 PICKS out of 25 games started

- QB RATING 10 Points lower than rookie season

See a trend?

MATT "CHOKE" RYAN

November 21st, 2009
12:29 pm

No, you fool. I don’t see a trend. I see a bad 5 game stretch! A trend is when he has a bad 5 game stretch EVERY Season. THATS when I “See a trend” or has 2 good games and 5 bad games. Thus far I see a young QB getting different looks thrown at him, and for the first time in his career it’s working.

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November 21st, 2009
1:00 pm

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mars

November 21st, 2009
2:13 pm

Sublimital. What a maroon.

j, we don’t need that racist trash in Athens. You keep BigMike in your neck of the woods

Vick Supporter

November 21st, 2009
2:48 pm

@Sid

I’ve tried to have a decent football debate with you, and like your kind does, you resort to name calling. Why are you so angry about my defending/supporting Vick? I’m not mad and calling you names for supporting Ryan.

I like to talk football man…while you like to degrade people if they don’t support Ryan.

Go put a dip in your mouth and chill out.

“Vick will shine again”

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 21st, 2009
11:18 pm

11 Hours until off-season :)

Rogue50

November 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

You guys keep talking about last year’s “standout” defensive players we let go. Based on what facts? Here’s a few: Foxworth is being declared a “bust” by the Baltimore media and Ravens fans. Check their message board conversations about this “standout” player. Milloy couldn’t get signed by anyone until Mora, Jr. took pity on him and signed him just as the season started. Have you watched his “standout” play for the Seahawks? Worse than last year, folks. And Brooking? Other than make a fool out of himself on the sidelines acting like a highschool cheerleader, he is making the same kind of tackles in Dallas that he was here his last few years, late and “pile-on.”

Matt "Choke" Ryan

November 22nd, 2009
10:44 am

Rogue50

November 22nd, 2009
9:17 am
You guys keep talking about last year’s “standout” defensive players we let go.

“A so-called bust on the Ravens” is a Pro Bowler on the Falcons :)

Frankie the man

November 22nd, 2009
10:31 pm

This year is a pay back for last years tremendous contributing draft. (We will reap benefits next year)You put up 30+ against the Giants whom are off a bye week and you are bashing the quarterback and head coach??? Pleeaassee, sll the games have been entertaining, IT’S ENTERTAINMENT!!!! You watched them all till the end cause the bird’s were still in the game.

Bash Matt Ryan? After starting as a 1st year rookie successfully? What the H*** do you want???? This is my opinion, many of you should present your comments as an OPINION. BTW, I moved here from Cleveland in 1988, wanna trade teams you whiners?????

Mary Wanna

November 22nd, 2009
10:40 pm

Nice work, Mr. Charlie. KC, CHOKE TROLL will never answer you because he is a miserable LOSER and all the poems and smiley faces can’t hide that. Boss, I agree with you, but doubt seriously CHOKE TROLL has any job whatsoever (would you hire him?) besides, he is full time polluting the AJC.

So CHOKE TROLL, enlighten us about what a franchise is supposed to do with a felon franchise wrecker. Wait for his release? Re-sign him? Or maybe dump his THUG friends and start over?

You act as if he wasn’t GUILTY as hell. All your stats amount to NOTHING. Vick was (is) a LYING, GAMBLING, DOG-KILLING FELON who should still be in jail and banned from the NFL for life. Although to be quite honest, as an ex-fan I wish him alot better than I wish you.

Wonder what you would say if Ryan got in trouble? I’m calling you out AGAIN, you PUNK LOSER PARASITE. Of course, if you actually ARE Terrance Moore, then it all makes sense.

Frankie the man

November 22nd, 2009
11:03 pm

As a side note, Matt Ryan had his butt handed to him over, and over by the Giants pass rush. Happy feet? I did not see it, how many VETERAN quarterbacks can say that? Thought so….

monty

November 22nd, 2009
11:33 pm

Ryan did do better today at not looking frightened in the pocket, but you can still tell he has a definite hit avoidance. All in all he had a good game. I haven’t seen a defense that was in your face all day like the Giants, it makes you wonder how they lost 4 in a row? Also I have to question the speed of our receivers as the Giants D-backs were in our hip pocket all day long. I don’t think our wide outs are physical enough, they don’t seem to play well against physical backs. Jenkins drop in the zone was inexcusable. We really miss Douglas. We seem to be just a couple of players away from being a really good team. One dynamic receiver and a couple of guys on defense.

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Anne50

November 23rd, 2009
1:55 am

Hi,

Just joined up here and am enjoying reading the blog. I must admit I am a little surprised at all the criticism of Ryan, Coach Smith, and the team in general. I agree with Larry and Dustin. Our team has a lot of promise. Matt will be fine! “Moose” Johnston is correct, imho. I started watching football and the Falcons with my grandfather when I was a little girl and I’m 50 now. Remember Zook?

Maybe I am just used to our guys losing, but I think some fans are expecting too much, too soon.
Not a Vick fan. Glad he is gone. I think Ryan will be a better passer when all is said and done. Of course, nobody can run like Vick, but I’d rather have a QB like Ryan. All the folks who are downing Ryan now … what were you saying last year? Do you think last year was a fluke?

Anne50

November 23rd, 2009
1:58 am

Wow, I should have kept reading. Good to see some positive posts!

Mary, you don’t hold anything back, do ya? You’re saying a lot of the things I was thinking, but too reserved to post :)

CrowlerWilkinson

November 23rd, 2009
10:46 am

The Falcons will win the SuperBowl this season. Matty “Ice” Ryan and the gang are getting ready to embark on a 6-0 run. This run will include convincing wins over the New Orlenas Saints, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets, as well as the other opponents. The Falcons WONT lose another game this year and the last win will be the SuperBowl, and they will win that one too!!!!! Ive NEVER been more excited about the Falcons than I am now with that incredible loss against the Giants. Dont tell me the Falcons didnt outplay the Giants. There were two miscues by our players (Jenkins dropped touchdown pass in the end zone) and Jason Elam (missed chip shot field goal) that cost of the game, which if those players had converted would have given us the win. Had those two players earned their paychecks on Sunday we would have won the game in regulation 41-31. Its unfortunate because the fact that the game was tied after 60 minutes meant that our fate was in the hands of a coin toss, which shouldnt be the case. We lost the coin toss SO WE LOST THE GAME. Win the coin toss and you win the game. That rule needs to change somehow because its unfair to the team that loses the coin toss. I never really didnt like the coin toss rule to start with. They should have let both teams continue playing for a 15 minute overtime period. The team which was ahead after 15 minutes should have been awarded the Victory. It shouldnt be sudden death because the team that wins the coin tost (69%) of the time goes on to win the game in overtime. The other team that loses the coin toss just wasted 60 minutes of busting their rear ends in the regulation game for nothing. What a shame!

DeloresVixesen

November 23rd, 2009
10:56 am

MATTY ICE IS PROGRESSING FASTER THAN ANY QB THAT HAS EVER COME INTO THE ASSOCIATION! HE IS ON TARGET TO PASS ALL QUARTERBACKS FOR YARDS, TDS, WINS, ETC. ICE WILL BE THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK TO EVER LIVE, AND I DONT THINK YOU CAN SAY THE SAME FOR MIKE “Dogfighter” VICK.

ERich42

November 24th, 2009
9:48 am

Two more weeks before Vick comes back home. Looks like Matty is going steady at a average level while all the rednecks are still trying to make him a legend.I find it funny win the Falcons lose now its never Matty Noodle arms fault but for some reason you people always found away to blame Vick.

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5:00 am

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