Everything went right for Matt Ryan in year one. Notsomuch now.
CHARLOTTE — There’s a problem with setting the bar so high in year one. When you run face first into the bar in year two, everybody notices.
Matt Ryan hasn’t necessarily been a spectacular crash this season. But he certainly hasn’t been the quarterback that most expected after a first season that saw him lead a seemingly flat-lined franchise to the playoffs. And yes — any doubts about whether something was wrong just ended.
The Falcons lost to the Carolina Sunday, 28-19. We can rationalize several reasons why this may have happened. Kicker Jason Elam botched a go-ahead field goal in the fourth quarter. The defense crumbled yet again. Aliens abducted John Abraham.
But put this one on Ryan. He threw two interceptions — dreadful interceptions. The first came in the second quarter after the Falcons had closed to 14-10. It led to a Panthers’ touchdown drive just before the half that made it 21-10. The second was a game-killer — with 3:45 left from the Carolina 49, and the Falcons trailing, 21-19.
Both came on the opening plays of drives. Both sailed high over a wide receiver, Michael Jenkins, who has long arms and stands 6-foot-4. Both were mistakes many of us were deluded into believing Ryan would not, could not commit with a game on the line.
This is a troubling transition. The franchise centerpiece just went from a quarterback who lately has struggled to win games to one who just lost one.
“There’s going to be things you have to learn along the way,” Ryan said later when asked about his drop in accuracy. “There’s a lot of tough teams you’re going against. I feel like I’m learning a bunch and continuing to get better. But I’ve just made some mistakes, and that’s gonna happen.
“I just made some throws that weren’t on point.”
Learning curves are normal for young quarterbacks. But could we have anticipated this curve would turn 180 degrees?
Ryan’s first four games: 66.7 percent completion percentage, seven touchdowns, two interceptions.
Ryan’s last five games: 54.9, seven touchdowns, 10 interceptions.
Why? That answer isn’t clear. If Ryan knows, he’s not saying.
“Different things come up week in and week out,” he said. “I’m young. I’ve got a long way to go, a lot of improving to do, and a lot of things to learn. And I feel you do learn things in your second year that you don’t learn in your first. I’m trying to soak up everything I can.”
Soak this up: The Falcons are in trouble. They’re 5-4. That record certainly doesn’t scream they’re walking the Green Mile. But this is a team that goes as the offense goes. It’s not a roster built for 13-10 wins.
But now look: Running back Michael Turner is out with an ankle sprain, which was significant enough to keep him out the last two and a half quarters Sunday. Ryan, the other key member of the offense, looks average (maybe). If he stays average, the offense is dead and the Falcons’ playoff hopes will sleep with it.
Coach Mike Smith declined to let offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey or quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave speak to the media. Smith and players came to Ryan’s defense. Everybody accepted blame, as you would expect.
Smith: “I thought Matt’s play was just like the rest of the football team. We didn’t sustain the level of play we needed to be successful.”
Wide receiver Roddy White also said, “We didn’t lose this game because of Matt. We all just gave it away.”
But he offered one solid theory as to why Ryan’s production has fallen off.
“Teams have seen him now on tape for a whole year,” he said. “They’re playing to his strengths and weaknesses, and they’re doing a good job.”
If this is an aberration, we’re about to find out. Three of the next four games come against the New York Giants, Philadelphia and New Orleans. The season will be either saved or buried. And now we have to wonder if the bar for Ryan was set too high.
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TerryTheFalconFan
November 15th, 2009
6:47 pm
We had 19 points
bob horner stayed hurt
November 15th, 2009
6:48 pm
good blog jeff…no whining here…you nailed it…we HAVE to beat the G-MEN next week…..it’s a must win….(you’re picking the G-Men on your Thursday predictions blog..) so I think the Falcons win….
Greg
November 15th, 2009
6:50 pm
Ask Matt why his throws have been consistently h-i-g-h (a very dangerous habit) for four weeks now. Something is definitely wrong. Otherwise, let’s be fair; we got beaten by a better team. They are very strong up front on offense, and we don’t have the rush tools to beat them, or to consistently stop their running game. Their two running backs are better than ours, as a package. Their two lead receivers are better than ours, as a package, OR individually. Their corners are much better. Overall their defensive backfield is better. Their QB is playing better. Justice was done today.
SirReal
November 15th, 2009
6:52 pm
I’m not buying the sophomore slump and I don’t like the fact the Ryan refuses to accept that it was his fault for blowing the game. The team is just saying all these things to the media but i guarantee you thats not how many of them feel internally. He needs to get it together. Plain and simple Jeff.
mike
November 15th, 2009
6:52 pm
way too negative considering this is just over the midway and we have played some really good teams. Overall Matt’s numbers arent terrible: 14 TDs and 12 ints–great? Certainly not. But ok. Players hit streaks–good and bad.
I have two major concerns and neither are Matt Ryan. One is the obvious: RB. If this Turner injury turns out bad, we may be in trouble. i’m seeing visions of Larry Johnson being brought in as a one year rental.
Second is the wr position. Outside Roddy and Gonzo are wrs are terrible. Jenkins has regressed and without harry douglass we have no adequate slot guy. I think a lot of the ints Matt is getting is partly due to him not having a helluva lot of faith in anyone but gonzo and white.
Regardless one bright spot is that Snelling is talented. I don’t think he is true stud. But definitely nice. And we still got seven games!
okeetee
November 15th, 2009
6:52 pm
…..Ryan didn’t lose this game….who ever called that stupid down field pass on first down when we only needed a field goal to take the lead with 4 minutes to go…shares a lot of the blame! Why not keep trickulating the ball down field like we were doing, killing the clock, letting our defense rest, and get into field goal position? If Ryan audibled that call and threw downfield THEN it was his fault. Otherwise, I blame the coaching staff for this loss!
Smitty'sTheMan
November 15th, 2009
6:53 pm
Jeff, do you know who was responsible for the play call on that last interception — Ryan or Mularkey? With more than three-and-a-half minutes to go and the ball at midfield, isn’t the objective to methodically eat the clock and hopefully score the winning TD/FG with minimum time remaining. Why would you throw the ball 30 yards downfield on the very first play from scrimmage? GOOD GRIEF !!
Dawgs Man
November 15th, 2009
6:53 pm
There were some coaching boo boos today as well. The biggest being calling a long pass with 3 minutes left and us on the 50 yard line where a few more yards would have got us in field goal range. And also Ryan had been trowing high all day and he did it again to kill us.
Phil
November 15th, 2009
6:54 pm
Just a few weeks ago the coaches said and I quote we are not concerned about Matt Ice throwing INT’S that along scared me. What coach this day and ages is not concerned with turnovers they cost games. I would not care if it was my superstar player give it up and find yoourself right beside me on the bench. Same OLD falcons with that mind set. maybe it’s not the player but the coaching staff. Get on Ryan for his leadership skills and attention to detail in the passing game.
Dawgs Man
November 15th, 2009
6:54 pm
Smith’s The Man. Looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time.
KSEE
November 15th, 2009
6:55 pm
this L hurts…we were in position to win.
StuDawg
November 15th, 2009
6:56 pm
“The Falcons lost to the Carolina Sunday, 28-17.” Come on man, as a so-called reporter, shouldnt you at least report the score correctly? And as a writer, shouldn’t you proofread before you post on the World Wide Web?
willie
November 15th, 2009
6:57 pm
I agree that Ryan has struggled recently, but I agree with him that he is still learning. I love the way that he seems to let misfortune roll off his back, just like he does with good fortune. I want that kind of short-term memory in my QB. This was never our year. We are building toward something. The losses of Harry Douglas, P. Jerry, W. Moore, B. Williams, etc. have been brutal. Everyone has some injuries, but we have had more than normal. I am hoping for a 9 or 10 win season with much better things to come in 2010!
The Dogfighter Returns
November 15th, 2009
6:58 pm
maybe all the money and fame has gone to his head, but can you blame him.
he can always go home and count his money.
maybe has hear so much about his arm strength that he wants to prove he can throw deep.
MR
November 15th, 2009
6:58 pm
Ok……..The Panthers tried to give us the game and we didn’t want it. —–Question? Should we be concerned about MATT RYAN? Just wondering.——-
Can you say "5 - 7"...
November 15th, 2009
6:59 pm
…after the next 3 weeks? So much for back to back winning seasons! The futility that is the Atlanta Falcons continues – 43 years and counting!
Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
7:02 pm
Guys,
I sucked today….and the week before….and the week before…..and the week before that. My arm is a noodle and I’m raping the Falcons for millions right now. I’m scared when the pressure comes and I look cowardly when I come to the line. I am thankful for the hype you guys gave me b/c thats what I’m thriving off of right now. Sorry that I dont admit that I blow games. I’m still learning remember?
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 15th, 2009
7:02 pm
IMO Matty’s puckering up. One bad pass or drop and he thinks he has to throw darts. He’ll study his way out of it but since his trip to the playoffs, his weaknesses have been exposed and he has yet to truely adjust. Gonzo’s not a check down, he’s his primary target.
Go over the top everyonce in a while just to keep’em honest might be a start.
bob horner stayed hurt
November 15th, 2009
7:04 pm
Can you say “5 – 7″… you’re a “panicker”…you probably stood in line 2hrs for a H1N1 flu shot….
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
7:06 pm
Geez, what a bunch of whiners and doomers. In the NFL, teams are never as good, or as bad as they seem. You just take em one week at a time. So they blew it today, it happens in the NFL.
BIOMASS
November 15th, 2009
7:08 pm
The JO-DO is going to be a ghost town real fast if this continues.
Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
7:09 pm
Yep, I sucked today, and the week before, and the week before, and the week before, but the weeks before that I was pretty good. And, even as bad as I was today, I did throw one 4th Quarter TD pass, and that is one more than MV7 did in 16 games in 06. And even if I suck from her on out, and we finish 7-9, I will match what MV7 did that year too.
Traver
November 15th, 2009
7:09 pm
THe whole key here is adjustments. The league has adjusted to Matt. Now Matt has to adjust again to the league or it will get ugly. Totally different sport/situation. But that is sort of what happened to Francoeur. Did great early and pitchers adjusted. He was slow to adjust back to them. Had some failures. Pressured mounted and he abruptly rode it out of town.
Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
7:10 pm
Maybe if I ran in reverse for 32 yards and then fumbled the all, yall would like me more.
Dawg Nation
November 15th, 2009
7:11 pm
Hey Smitty at least you got to beat up Deangelo Hall last week. Maybe if you spent less time showing off your muscles and concentrated more on coaching this team the annual Falcon demise could be stopped.
Eric C.
November 15th, 2009
7:12 pm
Jeff…you wrote a great column for us long-time, jaded Falcon fans. Thanks.
This season will go 9-7 at best…there is absolutely no way that the Falcons will win at NYG with their current problems, NYG coming off of a bye week, and NYG having lost 4 straight. That means the Falcons will most likely have to finish up 5-1 to get into the playoffs…and with games against Philadelphia, NO, and @NYJ on the horizon…that will be a tall order.
Unfortunately, I think we are seeing the real Matt Ryan. He NEEDS a great defense and good special teams to win. He will never be close to a Joe Montana or Peyton Manning. He can be an above average, solid QB, but the Falcons better plan on improving the defense if they are going to be a consistent playoff contender, and they need to scrap their heralded conditioning program because it sure ain’t working this year.
Everett Nelson
November 15th, 2009
7:12 pm
I guess Matt Ryan is going through the dreaded “sophmore slump”. we all knew it was going to happen but the question was when? you can’t beat Fate. make no mistake i do not blame Matt Ryan for the lost today. but i will blame you sport writers for setting that bar to high. don’t forget he still is learning the system and hasn’t figure out the pass Defenses like Manning, Brady or Brees has.. that’s why this team should’ve load up on some D this year. just in case your offense doesn’t play up to the standards your expect them too
Right now Ryan needs support to stick with him when he down. because he is a young QB which means his confidence is hurting. someone needs to sit him down for a talk. make him understand his team fully supports him and still believes i him. he is not letting no one but himself his fans are still by his side to give him that extra support
CJ
November 15th, 2009
7:13 pm
One word: Elam.
Michael Turner
November 15th, 2009
7:13 pm
At the beginning of the season, I sucked, teams came to stop me, and Ice carried the team. Now they are trying to put pressure in Ice, and it opens up the running lanes for me to run like I have been, so I have carried the team. See, it is a team sport, and regardless of how all your racist haters are prejudice against Ice because of his skin color, we on the Falcons love him.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:14 pm
Ryan: ““There’s a lot of tough teams you’re going against. I feel like I’m learning a bunch and continuing to get better. But I’ve just made some mistakes, and that’s gonna happen”
Ryan: ““I’m young.”
What!!!!!!!!!!!! If Vick ever said that, he would have been KILLED IN THE PAPERS…yet the “fans” here still make excuses for him.
I have to give the writers credit….even though it took 5 games for them to do so, they have finally been critical of Ryan. They are a part of the culprits (more so Schultz than Bradley) that have annointed this guy as the next P.Manning.
I have consistenly said that Ryan will be a good but not great QB. All of the things that I’ve said about his game has come true…especially the arm strength. The guy simply can’t throw the deep ball or drill a ball into tight coverage. When he tried, the ball sailed over guys heads. I will continue to get bashed on here, but for those of you that know football see that I’ve been telling the truth. Its not about race for me….I simply believe that Vick is a better QB. F all of the numbers and qb ratings….Vick Won Games. On his back if he had to.
Bring on the bashing and some of your racial comments that you make to me on here…you’re just making yourselves look stupid.
“Vick will rise again”
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:14 pm
As Michael Turner goes…so goes the Falcons offense. Matt never led this team, he’s a ok game manager…it was ALWAYS Michael Turner that was doing the leading, but rose-colored glasses by a media so determined to MAKE him a hall of famer that they couldn’t/won’t admit that it was ALWAYS Turner.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:15 pm
CJ
November 15th, 2009
7:13 pm
One word: Elam.
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You people blame the kicker, LMAO. What a bunchy of losers,lol.
CJ
November 15th, 2009
7:15 pm
It seems to me that “Fair and Balanced” didn’t watch the game.
Doyle Hargraves
November 15th, 2009
7:15 pm
Ryan has probably been hanging out too much in Buckhead. Maybe after the season Brett Favre can do an intervention with him.
woodie
November 15th, 2009
7:16 pm
Where is the guy that refers to Matt Ryan as Noodle Arm? He must be licking his chops after this performance. At this point I will take a winning season to get the monkey off our backs for not ever having back to back winning seasons. Go Falcons!
JeJe
November 15th, 2009
7:16 pm
Right before that 2nd interception, I said “Come on, Ryan. Stay composed.” As soon as he threw that pass, I knew it was trouble.
WTF.
JUST RUN THE BALL
JESUS
CJ
November 15th, 2009
7:16 pm
Not “you people.” Me.
bigdave
November 15th, 2009
7:17 pm
are those Matt Ryan quotes or some analyst from ESPN… he’s talking like a psychologist… like he’s not trying to lose self confidence… as a QB what are you doing fundamentally wrong? are you seeing the field? going through your progressions?
The Grinch
November 15th, 2009
7:17 pm
The sky isn’t falling yet, but this trend is disturbing. It would be one thing if he was under pressure all game, but he had plenty of time. He was just bad.
However, let us not forget we’re missing about a third of our starters. If this team was anywhere NEAR full strength they could compensate.
Ed
November 15th, 2009
7:19 pm
I was at the game today and there’s no question…both interceptions hurt, the missed field goal hurt and not having Turner really hurt. I believe that if Michael Turner is in the game, the play-calling is completely different. That said. he wasn’t and it fell to Ryan to lead them. It appeared (to me anyway) that almost all of his throws were a foot off the mark, either high or to the side. I was thinking playoffs at the beginning of the season, now I’m just hoping we break the streak.
wayne
November 15th, 2009
7:19 pm
WATCH THE EYES. THEY NEVER LIE. HE IS PLAYING SCARED. NO CONFIDENCE.
Michael Turner
November 15th, 2009
7:19 pm
Vick was a great QB, probably the most exciting player in the NFL when he was in his prime, but he did not develop. Do you realize, the guy did not throw 1 4th Quarter TD pass in 2006, his last year in the NFL.
And as far as what we would do if he said “I’m young”, probably nothing. As a matter of fact, I never saw Vick take responsibility for anything, he just flipped off his critics.
Could you imagine what you would do if Ice scrambled backwards for 30 yards, and then got the ball swatted out of his hands?
bigdave
November 15th, 2009
7:20 pm
hopefully we get it together… we have a tough road ahead. NY has lost i believe 3 in a row, and coming off a bye. im sure we’ll be getting the “challenge flag” this week from the guys at ESPN. a win in the Meadowland’s could be huge…
Eric C.
November 15th, 2009
7:20 pm
Jeff and CJ…timing was off between the snapper and holder on that missed kick by Elam. Sure, that was a brutal miss, but the interceptions were the worst evils in this game.
Vick supporter, Vick has not been a Falcon for a long time…and really blew every chance given to him. Most Falcon fans believed in him and wanted him to succeed…but the recent struggles by Ryan absolutely do not make me or other fans want Vick back. It is unfortunate that Vick threw his career under the bus, and there is nothing the Falcons can do about it now.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:22 pm
Everett Nelson: “make no mistake i do not blame Matt Ryan for the lost today. but i will blame you sport writers for setting that bar to high”
One question….Did you do/say this foor Vick when he was here?
For you to blame Bradley and Schultz for this is absolutely insane,lol. 95% of the people on these blogs “annointed” Ryan also.
if you’re a man, you will admit it. Be a man and admit that your QB sucks right now and its not because of everyone else.
It’s like I’ve been saying…..you take that running game away from Ryan and he CAN”T win the game for you.
It’s being prove right before your very eyes
bigdave
November 15th, 2009
7:22 pm
my goodness… DC beat Denver…
Pete
November 15th, 2009
7:23 pm
Listening to balcks “support” Vick just goes to show they will support a balck guy no matter what. DO you need more examples, Ray Nagin, Kwame Kilpatrick, Marion Berry, Charlie Rangel, Do I need to keep going? I guess it does not much intelligence to support someone just because they are the same color as you are
20 wins in a row
November 15th, 2009
7:23 pm
Matt Ryan is so overpaid it isn’t funny. He isn’t the only one but this guy comes out of College and they give him a ridiculous contract without even playing one game in the NFL. They should have learned something with the Vick situation, if this guy turns out to be a bust the Falcons are into him for a lot of money.
NFL
November 15th, 2009
7:25 pm
Ryan is so overpaid he doesn’t have much to work for anymore.
Keeping it real.
November 15th, 2009
7:25 pm
Vick WAS a great QB, but it was more do to his running ability than his understanding of the game and ability to find the open reciever. Hence, a completion percentage in the 50% range, and the 74 career passer rating. However, he slowed down in 05 and 06, and lost that advantage, but he never grew as a passer. Now, 2 years later, he can’t even beat our Kevin Kolb. And you really think he can play QB better than Ryan? For the record, the best QB the falcons ever had was Chris Chandler.
Sonny Clusters
November 15th, 2009
7:25 pm
We was just like that when a lot of the team was hurt and missing games. Stinky Wintes was our kicker and he had a cannon for a leg. He come up short on a big kick and pushed another one left and we lost a game we thought we had won. We near about killed him and he was afraid to miss anymore.
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 15th, 2009
7:26 pm
Is the Strayer University mascot an alley cat?
Falconstink
November 15th, 2009
7:26 pm
Bring back Vick and Brooking, this team has no GUTS
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:26 pm
Eric C.
I’ve never said that I wanted Vick back with the Falcons. We both know that would never happen and it shouldn’t
bigdave
November 15th, 2009
7:27 pm
Pete…
“I guess it does not much intelligence…”
ATL-67
November 15th, 2009
7:28 pm
Ask me again if I’ve lost confidence in Ryan.
Asheville Dawg
November 15th, 2009
7:28 pm
I have patiently been saying that the Falcons can not have back to back winning seasons. At 5-2 everyone said I was wrong, now they see what I saw.
Art Blank
November 15th, 2009
7:29 pm
You little freakin weenie! I let the walking ATM machine out the door because the non paying fans threatened to protest at the training facility and the dome.
I took some stupid advice thinking a 5th year college player, with 22 interceptions in his senior year and couldn’t win a freaking A.C.C. title.
I should have known that his idea of stretching the field was squeezing some turf with his hands. I spent 72-million plus a ton more on marketing and advertisement to make this string bean loser look NFL material.
I even paid off the commissioner for that weak freakin schedule and even twisted some arms to get the Rookie of The Year award, when everybody knows if another rookie goes to the championship game, he should be the winner.
Now, how am I going to get sponsors to buy tickets, because this little piece of crap couldn’t sell out a stadium if he bought all the tickets.
What a loser this scrub is.
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:29 pm
Matt says he’s still “young”….can’t wait to hear how the morning shows on 790 and 680 bash him for that one! Oh wait…they won’t…he’s gonna get a pass.
Submariner683
November 15th, 2009
7:29 pm
I’m wondering how many people Gamble has to injure until the NFL looks into his tackling technique of going for the knees and below on players that are already 90% to the ground and completely defenseless. He essentially ended Culpepper’s career with a similar hit. Elam needs to be fired. That’s at least the 3rd chip shot field goal he’s missed this season. No excuse for that.
No pass rush at all. The two pics were disasterous. Does anybody know you deal with rooting for a consistent loser? I’m probably better off not getting the NFL package next year. I seem to do better with just reading about the loss then seeing it as it happens.
Keeping it real.
November 15th, 2009
7:29 pm
Vick Supporter, we did not “Annoint” Ryan anything, as QB, his team went from 4-12 to 11-5. Look at Sanchez and Stafford. It just ain’t that easy. Like Vick, he started out great, set high expectations and struggled later. However, Vick railroaded himself, blew his chance to learn and grow, and now we have Ice. Will he progress? Who knows, but Vick is done in the NFL after this year.
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:30 pm
TerryTheFalconFan
November 15th, 2009
6:47 pm
We had 19 points
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Unfortunately the other team had 28. 28 is greater than 19.
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 15th, 2009
7:31 pm
Jeff, tard factor getting high IP addy’s need addressing….
Keeping it real.
November 15th, 2009
7:31 pm
Fair and Balanced, what is so wrong with saying “I am young”? He is only stating the obvious.
If Vick said that in his 2nd season after one of his games where he had 4 fumbles and 3 picks, I don’t think anyone would have had a problem with it.
Asheville Dawg
November 15th, 2009
7:32 pm
Rankin Smith’s curse still hovers against the Atlanta sky. Move over “Jed Clampett”
mars
November 15th, 2009
7:33 pm
This is downright woeful. Smitty needs to jerk a knot in Ryan’s @$$ before he goes the way of Vick. Every time a QB has a decent year in Atlanta, they follow it up with crap. No excuses. Get your head right! And Elam…. how many games in a row with missed field goals before you stop glaring at the holder and look in the mirror instead? Sure, we have injuries. So what. That’s when pros “man up!” Come on, Falcons!
Art Blank
November 15th, 2009
7:34 pm
I did let the walking ATM machine out the door, and just that fact that I can go to sleep tonight and know my QB’s posse is not going to steal someones watch, or give a girl herpes, or have some embarassing picture show up on the internet, or get is butt locked up in federal prison is work every red cent.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:34 pm
@Keeping it real.
How in the hell is Vick going to come in and beat Kolb out for the #2 job when he wasn’t even there for training camp?
Please tell me how that happens. You beat people out for jobs in training camp.
For your information, Vick is the #2 QB right now….if he wasn’t he couldn’t come in for the Wildcat….so technically, he’s number 2, and he will be a starter next year.
Mike Vick Curse
November 15th, 2009
7:35 pm
Did you fools really think you could replace me?
You can’t send a boy to do a man’s job.
By the way, he is 24 years old, I was only 22 in my 2nd season.
2004 and counting losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:37 pm
The game next Sunday will be really ugly. If Turner isn’t playing, the Giants will slaughter the Falcons.
Matt Ryan Fans
November 15th, 2009
7:39 pm
I don’t care what anybody says, Matt will never be blamed for any losses because no matter what, he is one of “US”.
andrews31
November 15th, 2009
7:39 pm
The way I see it , is the Falcons are really hurting from lack of good play from the defensive tackle position and the bad decision making of the quarterback. When you are getting man handled in the middle of the line, everybody else pays the price on defence. You can say what you want but when the line of scrimage is pushed back or flattened at the line, you can not stop anybody. As far as Matt Ryan, It is very clear he is scared on nearly every drop back(happy feet). Its sad we have to pin our hopes on him at this stage because Turner is hurt. Its looks like it is going to be the same ole Falcons of the past.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:41 pm
Keeping it real: “Vick Supporter, we did not “Annoint” Ryan anything”
That’s a bunch of BS.
Cmon…be a man admit it….you people set the bar so high for Ryan and he believed it.
Now the bar has hit him in the face. the thing is, Vick actually has the skills a QB need to win…while Ryan does not.
mars
November 15th, 2009
7:41 pm
Keeping it Real, I’m afraid you have hit the nail on the head. Chris Chandler. Geez. We rival the Bears when it comes to picking QB’s.
Art Blank
November 15th, 2009
7:41 pm
Vick Supporter, he has not shown anything, he looks about as quick as Verron Haynes. He has a 42 QB rating, and has about 10 yards passing. When McNabb came out, Kolb started, he is the #2. Vick is a million dollar has-been gimmick, about as much a QB as Brown is in Miami, although Brown has been WAY more productive. .
AtlFalcons
November 15th, 2009
7:42 pm
I’m starting to think going to the playoffs last year was a big mistake .. succeeding as quick as they did was good at the time because of what happened the year before but as as we’re seeing now people set their expectations to high and when the expectations aren’t met the faults start coming and we start analyzing things more deeper.
I can only hope the Falcons overcome and have a winning season. Othewise, if the losses continue not only will the QB be under the microscope but the coach as well and that’s really disappointing.
Matt Ryan Fans
November 15th, 2009
7:42 pm
I hope Matty gets plenty of sleep Saturday, because that Giants from line of Justin Tuck and company are going give me a real beating.
Oh God – I thought I could just take all the credit, cash in that 72 million dollar contract and not have to earn it.
Don’t worry Matt – you are one of “US”.
We will blame everybody else.
jimbob
November 15th, 2009
7:42 pm
didn’t see any of it. What was with the Elam stutter step?? Is the snapper or holder not doing their job properly?? if so, then it will really screw up Elam’s kicking (although he has missed some easy kicks this year).
Real Falcons fans are still behind Matt Ryan. He’s having some sophomore problems–but it’s not his fault that the media annointed him a king immediately. He’s a hard worker, and I’ll give it at least two more seasons to see how things play out.
We know for certain that Vick couldn’t beat Philly or any really well coached defense. Matt Ryan has a lot more upside. It hasn’t helped that the running game has (overall) been a disappointment this season, and other than TG and Roddy (to a lesser extent), you can’t count on the hands of any of them.
pilgrim
November 15th, 2009
7:43 pm
I am a true fan of this club. The Panthers got a gift. I have to say that this kind of loss is the worst kind. It hurts the fan base. It is bad enough to destroy confidence between the players on the team. I hope nobody sugarcoats it. I hope the club never forgets it.
Keeping it Real
November 15th, 2009
7:44 pm
Ryan, like Vick, set the bar high by himself by winning early. Last year the team went 11-6, this year they are still above 500%. I don’t think you get there without the “skills” to win in the NFL.
It smacked both in the face, true character comes out with adversity. We all so how Mr Vick handled it, now lets see how Ryan handles it.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:45 pm
Art Blank
You put Ryan in Philly with McNabb and Ryan rides the bench.
McNabb has earned every right to be the starter in Philly.
Vick’s stats are meaningless when he doesn’t get consistent playing time. vick needs the ball in his hands to be effective, just like every other QB in the NFL…besides Ryan of course. Ryan is better when he hands the ball off to Turner.
That has been proven.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
7:46 pm
“DUMP THE CHUMP”
BUST
BUST
BUST
BUST
BUST
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:46 pm
jimbob didn’t the Falcons beat Philly in 2005?? Oh, you thought no one would call you on that lie?
Mike
November 15th, 2009
7:47 pm
Why are we throwing long on 1st down from midfield, when our running game had been going all day. The throw was not what was bad, it was the decision to try and force it. All the Falcon fans who have been there for years, not just the Vick Bandwogoners have been waiting for this let down, because it is what we expect. Us fans remember that Bartkowski, Archer, Miller, Herbert, Chandler, and yes Mr Vick himself could never deliver back to back winning seasons. We had a chance in 05 with a 10 point lead over Tampa and Vick had a melt down that cost the game. Today Ryan delivered what we have come to expect from this franchise.
Fair and Balanced
November 15th, 2009
7:47 pm
Maybe that lil bus ride was the real culprit for this loss!
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:47 pm
jimbob
Ryan has alot more upside than Vick? PLEASE elaborate.
Panther Fan
November 15th, 2009
7:49 pm
Can anyone tell me if the Panthers won?
Keeping it Real
November 15th, 2009
7:49 pm
What is wrong with Ryan saying “i am young”? It is an admission that he has a lot to learn. The guy is 16-9 as a starter since he stepped onto the field. WFT do you really expect?
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:50 pm
@Mike
Besides the Vick “meltdown” you speak of that no one knows about, your post is right on the money.
You should expect this franchise to lose….Vick took this franchise to heights (on the field) that team has ever seen. Admit it man. At least with Vick, we always had a chance to win. Not so with Ryan…the Giants are going to destroy Ryan if turner is hurt.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
7:51 pm
VS, Ryan has a lot more upside because he is going not going to prison. Generally speaking, folks who go to prison for federal offenses do not have much “upside”.
Stafford sux
November 15th, 2009
7:51 pm
Could be worst! Stafford could be our QB. Man that guy sux. But Ryan will be a above-avg. QB Just give him some time,OK
jimbob
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
he lost at least twice to them when it mattered: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-46162.html
Gimmicks like that will never beat the best defenses in the NFL. And he’s clearly never destined to do so. He doesn’t put in the effort that the great ones put in.
mars
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
I’m a life long Falcon fan. I gotta say, I’m am SSSSOOOOOOOO sick of this Vick versus Ryan crap. You Vickheads.. guys, you are coming across as complete racists. And, though Ryan’s our guy now… the rest of you need to quit making excuses. He’s playing like crap. Blind loyalty is the type of disfunction that led to Vick not doing his job and going to prison. I thought we were actually going to hold players responsible for their actions. Are we going to revert to the Vick days of making excuses?
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
Keeping it Real
November 15th, 2009
7:49 pm
What is wrong with Ryan saying “i am young”? It is an admission that he has a lot to learn. The guy is 16-9 as a starter since he stepped onto the field. WFT do you really expect?
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Here you go…making excuses. Who you gonna blame now…..the water boy? The water boy didn’t give Ryan his water correctly?
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
VS, not true, Chris Chandler took the Falcons to heights Vick never saw.
More of the Same
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
Matt Ryan=Rick Mirer
Panther Fan
November 15th, 2009
7:52 pm
I got it thanks Panthers 28 Fulcans 19
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
7:53 pm
Saying “I’m young” is not an excuse, it is taking responsiblity by saying “I not very good because have a lot to learn”. I find it amazing folks have a problem with that.
disgusted
November 15th, 2009
7:55 pm
If the FALCONS WEREN’T SO BUSY TRYIN TO RIDE TO THE PANTHERS INSTEAD OF NORMALLY FLYING TO SAVE MONEY, AND HELP PAY SMITH FINE……….AND PRAISING HIM FOR HIS SENSELESS BEHAVIOR ON THE SIDE LINE AND PLAY FOOTBALL…
THOSE GUYS NEED TO BE ON THE FIELD EVERY DAY PRACTICE THROUGH THE NEXT GAME………WATCH MORE FILM….NO PRESSURE AT ALL ON JAKE ………COME ON MAN
Bob from Winder
November 15th, 2009
7:55 pm
If I see Matt throw the ball out of bounds 4-5 times a game I will puke.
He plays too conservative, get loose like farve or cutler and let it rip try to win instead of trying not to lose
Greg
November 15th, 2009
7:56 pm
While people praise Dimitroff and Smith to the sky, no one ever looks back at the Ryan pick, and the decision to let Schaub go for peanuts. Who’s the better QB right now? It isn’t even close. Schaub. We could have had Flacco a lot cheaper than Ryan, trading up for him after we took Dorsey. Who’s the better QB right now? It’s not even close. Flacco. I’m sick and tired of the premature canonization of Dimitroff and Smith. I said before the season we’d be 8-8 at best, and I’m sticking with it.
jimbob
November 15th, 2009
7:56 pm
Vick put in none of the effort that Manning or Brady put in. He was more preoccupied with illegal extracurricular activities.
The studying/film watching doesn’t guarantee greatness, but it’s one of the things a qb needs to do to succeed. Vick was a failure. His life choices confirmed it. Maybe he’ll resurrect himself, but with the Falcons he was a failure. He did some decent things on the field, and then–kaput. His stupid choices put an end to it.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
7:56 pm
@mars
How are we coming across as racists? People on here start talking about Vick themselves also. I come on here all the time and I notice Vick bashings before I even post,lol. You know its true.
Vick is the Falcons. he will never be forgotten in this town…the good and the bad
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
7:58 pm
Falcons lost the game because
#1 Ice threw 2 picks, the last one totally uncalled for.
#2 Missed FG, gotta make that one.
Pretty simple, as Bad as Ryan was, he did drive them from the 4 yard line with 6 minutes left, so he did do some things OK, but in the end, it was on Ryan.
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
7:59 pm
Wow you folks are really crazy here is Georgia! Football is a team sport this is not about just one player.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:00 pm
And Vick should never be forgotten, he did some thing on the field that nobody ever saw, but in the end, he was a loser, we must never forget that.
Seriously...
November 15th, 2009
8:00 pm
I’m a life long Falcon fan. I gotta say, I’m am SSSSOOOOOOOO sick of this Vick versus Ryan crap. You Vickheads.. guys, you are coming across as complete racists. And, though Ryan’s our guy now… the rest of you need to quit making excuses. He’s playing like crap. Blind loyalty is the type of disfunction that led to Vick not doing his job and going to prison. I thought we were actually going to hold players responsible for their actions. Are we going to revert to the Vick days of making excuses?
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Amen. Vick looked like crap at the end of his career here in Atlanta. Matt Ryan looks like crap right now. Period.
NCFalconFan
November 15th, 2009
8:00 pm
This game is on Ryan. I question the play call on that 2nd INT, but Ryan should not have thrown that ball. With that said, before the 2nd INT, I believe he drove the ball 90+ yards for a TD. It is way to early to associate him w/Peyton Mannig and Tom Brady and for all who did that, shame on you. However I’m still glad he’s my QB. This is only his second year. This entire team is young, the defense is still young. Mentally we are not tough enough to squeak out wins. I still have faith in Dimtroff & Co. unless they dont do something drastic regarding Grimes/Hill next season.
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:01 pm
Can someone tell me what does this football team have to do with M. Vick? Please tell me!
This coaching staff is very suspect at this time!
MV7
November 15th, 2009
8:01 pm
Hi, it’s Mike, y’know? Y’all lay off Vick Supporter. It’s called freedom of speech. And it’s a good thing it’s free ’cause I’m broke, y’know? Also I just figured out why I’m running so slow. Forgot to take off that darn ankle bracelet from my home arrest…
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:02 pm
Vick Supporter why do you feel the need to comment about Mike Vick on a blog about The Falcons? Mike Vick has been gone for 3 football seasons!
Greg
November 15th, 2009
8:02 pm
Listen to the Ryan interview on the Falcons website. Does this guy EVER take responsibility for ANYTHING??? It’s always we we we when he talks about failures. How about owning up to this pathetic performance, Matt? You’re shooting the ball high and wide CONSISTENTLY, and I’m not talking about just when you’re under pressure. What the #$%^& is going on?
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:03 pm
VS, you still choose to address Vicks failure to throw ONE SINGLE TD pass in the 4th Quarter in 16 regular season games in 06. If you will “never forget” Vick, how do you conviently forget about that? And if it is your contention that Vick was a “greater talent” than Ryan, I give you that, as a matter of fact, so was Jeff George.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:05 pm
Seriously’s comment: ” Amen. Vick looked like crap at the end of his career here in Atlanta. Matt Ryan looks like crap right now. Period.”
20 tds 13 ints (which Ryan is about to surpass ny a longshot), and 1039yds rushing.
That doesn’t look like crap to me……..
Ryan is lookin like crap right now..
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:05 pm
Falcons should have drafted Drew Brees instead of Vick.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:06 pm
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:02 pm
Vick Supporter why do you feel the need to comment about Mike Vick on a blog about The Falcons? Mike Vick has been gone for 3 football seasons!
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The whole city does it. Next.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:07 pm
FROM ESPN.COM:
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — The Ice Age, which forecasters had thought would last another decade or so, suddenly seems to be in jeopardy.
Did you see Matt Ryan at Bank of America Stadium on Sunday, looking nervous every time a pass-rusher got near him? Did you see how the ball sailed on Ryan’s two interceptions? Did you see how his passer rating (57.4) compared to Jake Delhomme’s (115.8)?
Yes, at least on Sunday and — too many times in recent weeks — Matty Ice seems to have thawed out and turned into a puddle. Hard to believe the kid who never got flustered and never made a bad throw or bad decision as a rookie suddenly is making a strong run at Delhomme’s interception total.
I’ve avoided jumping into talk of a sophomore slump, mainly because, based on what I saw last year, I thought Ryan was way too good for anything like that. Now, I at least have to wonder why, for most of the past month, Ryan hasn’t looked anything like the player he was a year ago.
Throw out last week’s win against a horrible Washington team and Ryan wouldn’t have completed more than 57.6 percent of his passes in any game since Oct. 11. On that date, the Falcons went out to San Francisco and trounced the 49ers, 45-10. In the five games since, Ryan has thrown 10 interceptions and seven touchdowns as the Falcons have gone 2-3.
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So what’s so different about this season?
“You’ve got to remember this is Year 2,’’ Atlanta coach Mike Smith said. “Playing quarterback in this league is one of the most difficult jobs that there is. There are going to be ups and there are going to be downs. There’s confidence in our quarterback.’’
I won’t argue with the confidence issue. I still think that, when all is said and done, Ryan will go down in history as a great quarterback. But he’s not there right now and that’s a huge concern as the 5-4 Falcons head into a brutal final stretch.
Running back Michael Turner suffered an ankle injury Sunday and had to leave the game before halftime. It’s likely he’s going to miss some time, maybe even a lot of time. They’ve got a defense that gives up too many yards and too many points. They’ve also got a brutal schedule ahead.
More than ever, the Falcons need Ryan to carry them. More than ever, they need him to take the step that should come when you move from Year 1 to Year 2.
But all we’ve seen of Ryan since he started the season with only one interception in his first four games is a quarterback taking several steps back.
“Different things come up week in and week out,’’ Ryan said. “I’m young. I’ve got a long way to go and a lot of improving to do and a lot of things to learn. And I do think you learn a lot more in your second season than you do in your first. I feel like I am continuing to get better and continuing to learn, trying to soak up everything I can from Year 1, from Year 2. I feel like, if I do that and to it the best way I can, I will be a better player for it.’’
Ryan has to start being a better player very soon or else all he and the Falcons will have to look forward to is Year 3. For the Falcons to have any shot at making the playoffs, they need Ryan to be a lot better than he has recently.
“I thought that Matt’s play was just like our entire football team,’’ Smith said.
The problem there is Ryan’s got to be better than the entire team because there are problems all over the rest of the horizon. But what’s to make us think Ryan can suddenly turn it around?
Well, that’s really the only shot the Falcons have. The defense isn’t going to instantly get better, and it’s hard to imagine the running game improving when the leading rusher is walking around with his ankle in a boot.
It’s time for the Falcons to do everything they can to put Ryan into positions where he can succeed, and it’s up to Ryan to make sure he succeeds. He’s got a talented cast around him and there’s no doubt Ryan’s heart is in the right place. His work ethic is the stuff of legend around the team’s Flowery Branch complex. He’s the first one in and the last one out most days.
But we just haven’t seen the same kind of magic from Ryan that we did last season. That’s surprising because the Falcons went out of their way to make his life easier. They brought in Tony Gonzalez, the best tight end ever. There’s no questioning that move because Ryan and Gonzalez jelled right away and they have a strong chemistry.
But I can’t help but wonder if Gonzalez’s arrival, in a weird way, has actually hurt Ryan’s progress. One thing I’ve noticed in recent weeks is that Ryan seems almost too reliant on Gonzalez. He locks in on the tight end way too much and it seems at times like the Falcons have forgotten they’ve got a Pro Bowl receiver in Roddy White and another pretty good one in Michael Jenkins.
A lot of times last year, it looked like Ryan would take a shot and throw into coverage, but White or Jenkins almost always seemed to come away with the ball. That hasn’t happened a lot this season. When you see White or Jenkins being thrown a pass these days, it’s almost always only when they are wide open.
Speaking of White, I’m reminded of a story he shared after the big win in San Francisco. That day, White had 210 receiving yards after starting the season in a very slow fashion. White had signed a new contract in training camp and later realized that made him feel pressure. He sat down with Smith just before the San Francisco game and the message from the coach to the wide receiver was something like, “Relax, just go out and have fun and play like you did last year.’’
Maybe it’s time for Smith to have the same conversation with Ryan.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:07 pm
I just don’t get it.
So the Falcons have a record of 5-4, and all is lost? Have we forgotten that this team was practically rebuilt from the GROUND UP just barely a year and a half ago?
If the bar was set too high, it was because the culture changed. Instead of keying on one guy, we now have a TEAM. Only a TEAM can be a winner, not a single individual with 21 other also-rans. The sophomore jinx gets a lot of guys. Teams have tape on Ryan and now they know how to play him…for now . He’ll get better, and then they can watch all the tape they want.
And why are we (well, some of us) still bringing up Mike Vick? Seriously, people.
“We always had a chance to win with Vick”. Look Vick did some of the best stuff on the football field that has been seen on the football field. He did do a lot of good for this franchise. Unfortunately he also did the absolute worst for this franchise, letting himself, his family, and his team down in the end. Now, he’s little more than a bit player (if even that) for the very same archrival that destroyed him both times that we made the playoffs while he was quarterback.
I don’t know if that’s poetic justice or just cruel fate.
Either way, Vick did MORE to let this franchise down in the end, than he ever did to lift it up. That’s the way it is, and nobody is paying a higher price for it than Vick himself. It’s a shame. It really is.
But it’s stupid to compare Ryan to him. If you’re holding onto the past, then please do it on your own time. In the meantime, let Ryan play 6 years before you start making comparisons. It’s only fair. Of course, that might be inconvenient to some arguments, but such is life.
I know one thing…. The fact that his coaches and teammates (particularly his receivers) are showing Matt Ryan a good bit of support, particularly in this latest loss. I never remember seeing that for his predecessor, and that speaks volumes. Take it as you will.
Reality is, this team has a long way to go, but is for once (and for the first time) pointed in the right direction.
Finally:
Ryan ‘09 is a work in progress.
Vick ‘09 is a sad joke.
JSS
November 15th, 2009
8:09 pm
Hmmmm… At least 6 out of 10 have kept this at a modicum of literate speech level… For the record, 9 out of 10 bashers of Matt Ryan were about his talent set. The famous anointing of No. 2 (and it was an anointing, see Jeff Schultz’s entry before the New England game) left the observant fan waiting for the other shoe to drop… All of his film study, his great cerebral skills, and the accuracy… I could go on, but why beat a dead horse… I said it when Chris Miller and Chris Chandler were being treated life human pinatas, schemes can’t hide inferior talent forever…For all of his limitations, Michael Vick covered it up for 2 and a half seasons. If not, Doug Johnson would have carried the Falcons to victory like Brady, Delhomme, and Bono did when their teams QB’s went down… Face it, the League is wise to the Falcons, and “Magic” Mike hasn’t a clue to righting his ship!
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:10 pm
Vick Supporter….. He is not the QB of this team! So why don’t go and support him on the Philly blog site?
We are commenting on the Falcons playing the Panthers! I did not see M. Vick in this game did you?
gman
November 15th, 2009
8:10 pm
maybe if somebody would point the finger at ryan instead of excusing him for being in his socond season, because its making me sick, he’s lost the last 4 games, come on its the qb that leads the team, everyone plays off of him. if hes not playing good the 9 times out of 10 the team wont. they say the qb is the leader. if hes playing good and the team wins they praise him. and im tired of listening to his interviews. cause he’s really not excepting the blame like a leader at all. how about not talking about everyone elses play, and talk about your play ryan. and stop talking about the learning curb. and how its gonna happen. teams are reading you. they know what your thinking, even i know what your thinking, your so predictable. how about looking off a receiver, and theres something about the way you change a play thats hinting defenses. you need to reevaluate the way you do things
BONE
November 15th, 2009
8:10 pm
Just so everybody knows:
In Vicks 2nd year (1st year as a full time starter): he threw 8 ints.
Matty Noodle has 12 ints already.
LMAO so if Vick sucks what does that make Matty Noodle who has way more weapons then Vick had. I’ll wait to hear the excuses LMAOOOOOOO
chemdawg
November 15th, 2009
8:11 pm
Ryan and the Falcons face the 4th hardest schedule in terms of defenses that stop the pass this year. It’s no coincidence that Ryan has had some tough games.
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 15th, 2009
8:11 pm
Please!!!
I want to lay this to rest.
Vick = Tyson.
Reeves = Cus.
Both Vick and Tyson had “it”.
Reeves and Cus were as much handlers as coaches.
Some people must be contained more than coached.
Vick had Reeves. Blank thought better. Now he has neither.
Water under the bridge, but if you think the Falcons would run through a wall for Smitty, they would have built one for Reeves.
cdog
November 15th, 2009
8:11 pm
the falcons plainly threw the game to the panthers. a professional kicker misses a 36 yard field goal? matt ryan overthrows a 6′4 reciever by a mile? mike marlarky makes dumb calls by throwing passes in the middle of the field with the secondary playing your recievers 15-20 yards deep when all you had to do was be patient, run time down?why not nickle and dime the panthers like championship teams do at least get your self in field goal range and run the clock down so when you kick it there’s little time left. you have defensive players who act like they have never played football before, missing tackles, crossing feet when runners cut back,secondary people move like they have lead in their feet. its nothing the panthers did that won the game for them. the falcons gift wrap this game for them with their stupidity. i’m about to dish them. i like fundamental football not stupid football.mike smith just sit there and let the official take his game but overall they were not to blame, it was the falcons themselves. they are staring at 5-5 before coming home. i wonder do they even care about winning any more.
jimbob
November 15th, 2009
8:12 pm
Another way to look at it: Ryan is playing as poorly as he’ll ever play in his career–and he still got them into the FG range that should have lead to the go-ahead FG. It’s not like the Falcons are getting pounded and he’s completely lost and clueless.
Ryan and others will need to step up. The running game will need to step up big-time if Turner is out. Jenkins will need to stop dropping/tipping every crucial pass that comes his way, Elam needs to make all the short fieldgoals.
If Ryan’s slump was really the worst thing ever, the Falcons would be getting pounded every game. This is typically how it goes for truly horrible 1st and 2nd year QBs. In the long-term, I think he’ll be fine.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:13 pm
“You’ve got to remember this is Year 2,’’ Atlanta coach Mike Smith said. “Playing quarterback in this league is one of the most difficult jobs that there is. There are going to be ups and there are going to be downs. There’s confidence in our quarterback.’’
I won’t argue with the confidence issue. I still think that, when all is said and done, Ryan will go down in history as a great quarterback. But he’s not there right now and that’s a huge concern as the 5-4 Falcons head into a brutal final stretch.
My point exactly. What, did somebody think we were going to the SuperBowl in our second year with a new team? Give me a break. If you set the bar too high, then blame yourself for not being realistic.
What kills me is that nobody seems to remember the countless articles written when other quarterbacks have struggled, MUCH LATER IN THEIR CAREERS, no less.
Didn’t we see some stuff on Tony Romo this season? How about Drew Brees the last year or two? Favre always gets coverage. Brady. Cutler. All of them.
We may not make it to the playoffs. Who knows. Hey, I’ll take the draft picks. But either way, this franchise is developing into a REAL winner, something it couldn’t be called during the Vick Era. Why? Couldn’t win two seasons in a row. That’s NOT a winner, sorry.
uberVU - social comments
November 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
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Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
Good post Big Ray, especially JSS
Pump Your Freakin' Brakes Already
November 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
If anything this should make us all appreciate how difficult it is to win consistently in the NFL. Of course the Falcons make it seem alot more difficult than maybe it is but it starts at the top and frankly I kinda like the guys we have at the top. The Falcons front office was NEVER going to shore up enough of the team’s deficiencies in two seasons. Certainly not enough for the team to live up to the hype going into this year with this schedule.
Furthermore: IT’S A TEAM GAME!!!! Everyone is responsible for success and failure. Matt Ryan is in FACT still learning his craft. Mike Vick could throw the ball thru a brick wall but was never any more accurate than Matt has been this year. He could have been, but the guy DIDN’T STUDY FILM so he didn’t always know where to even go with the ball (not all his fault – his coaches sucked, except for Dan Reeves). I’m pretty sure Matt will be a better passer than Vick will ever be because Vick didn’t do the little things it takes to master the craft when he was young. When Vick got older and that blazing speed and athleticism left him what was he going to rely on if he hadn’t put in the work it takes to become a top notch passer????? Matt is doing those things and it will help him in the long run. We don’t need Joe Montana, Jr. at QB anyway. It doesn’t take all that. We need a consistently nasty, tough defense with a front 4 that can pressure the QB on any down.
All this Vick vs. Ryan crap is a bunch of mindless drivel. I’m black and I loved Vick as much as anyone but some of you Vick supporters are IN-freaking-SANE. LMAO!!
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
Vick Supporter, you are the lone voice of the Vickheads that do not come across as racist. You alone. Read their comments. However, since you DO come across as a delusional fanatic who can’t separate from the past, you might not be able to detect your cohort’s racist tone. Proof of your fanaticism is underscored by “cherry picking” the one thing in my comment that you have any interest in addressing. This (”what, me racist?”) garbage is stale.
“Vick is the Falcons. he will never be forgotten in this town…the good and the bad”. This cult-like adoration is not healthy, my friend. Never forget Jonestown.
Did you even bother to read the rest of my comment?
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:14 pm
VS, I noticed you forgot to mention Vicks 4 fumbles in 06 too, So add that to his 13 ints, so that puts him at 20-17. Throw in a 52% completion percentage, and the fact (that you refuse to address) that he thew ZERO 4TH QUARTER TD PASSES IN 16 GAMES. That, my friend, is stats of an 7-9 QB. People think your motives are race, because you refuse to follow conventional logic.
You guys are nuts
November 15th, 2009
8:16 pm
Ryan is not the first quarterback to have a rough second year. I’ve said this on this blog before, anyone remember Peyton and his first four years? Eli’s first three and a half? There are not too many Brady’s who come along and never seem to struggle. Give the kid a break, he’s barely half through his second year. No running game the first half of the season made it tough on him to throw, and now Burner is gone for awhile. It won’t get prettier folks. It’ll be made even uglier by Jenkins and White dropping passes. Everyone has to amp up their focus from here on out with Turner and Norwood gone. No drops, max protect for Ryan, and let Smitty do what he does, coach with the best of ‘em.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:16 pm
@Pump Your Freakin’ Brakes Already
“Vick supporters are IN-freaking-SANE. LMAO!!”
You should see the Ryan supporters…..they made this dude Ryan freakin P.Manning after one year!
What do you call that?!?
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:17 pm
BIG RAY
Vick is on the Eagles team – let’s talk about the Falcons CHOKE
tell it like it is
November 15th, 2009
8:17 pm
I personaly wish we could keep you know whos name out of these blogs.Its bad enought to lose a game without hearing that name come up again.
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:18 pm
@CDog….. Malarky did not make Matt Ryan throw the ball into double coverage. Let’s not make excuses, Matt Ryan must know in that situation I should not have thrown the football to M. Jenkins!
@Bone… Once again M. Vick would not have taken the Falcons to the championship the man did not study film to try and make himself a better QB.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:19 pm
“DUMP THE CHUMP”
Put up or shut up and if I was a betting man, 68, 66, 46, 81 and 57 would not be my lucky numbers
Seriously...
November 15th, 2009
8:19 pm
But it’s stupid to compare Ryan to him. If you’re holding onto the past, then please do it on your own time
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I don’t think it’s stupid at all. Why wouldn’t fans compare the current qb to his predecsesor? Sports fans compare and contrast players all the time. The problem is that a lot of the people on here cannot discuss Ryan and Vick without bringing race into the conversation. It would be nice if we could have a mature debate regarding the two qb’s.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:19 pm
OK Choke,
Ryan did will to drive them 75 yards in crunch time, but then he failed miserably when he had a second chance after the missed FG that would have put them in the lead. Not sure why he tried to throw it 30 yards with 3 minutes left. A very bad decision on his part.
Pretty much sums it up to me.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:20 pm
WE WANT REDMAN
WE WANT REDMAN
WE WANT REDMAN
WE WANT REDMAN
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:20 pm
@Mr Charlie
Like I’ve always said….you people never judged Vick according to a “team” game. you people never blamed anyone else but Vick for the team’s troubles.
Ryan will surpass Vick’s turnover numbers by a longshot…especially int’s
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:22 pm
All QBs struggle, it is how they handle adversity that defines them. Ryan is going through a rough stretch, and like Vick would never have been, he will not be dumped, unless, like Vick he does something so unimaginable stupid.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:22 pm
CHOKE is consistent.
His streak of 5 straight games with a PICK is alive and kicking
Ed
November 15th, 2009
8:22 pm
Was at game today also. What was the deal with only 2 active RB’s?
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:24 pm
Vicks 2nd season………8 picks
CHOKE’s 2nd season……………….12 picks and COUNTING
Conservative White Male
November 15th, 2009
8:24 pm
If Turner cant play we should try to get Jacob Hester or Brian Leonard. Matty needs someone who cares as much as he does. Someone who will not leave the game after getting 100 yards in the first half with an “injury”. just plain lazy
Pump Your Freakin' Brakes Already
November 15th, 2009
8:26 pm
Vick Supporter: What do I call that?!? I’ve seen all the hype after Ryan’s first year and Vick got the same hype after running wild a few times and taking the Falcons to the playoffs. They had massive holes in their games but ONE of them is doing the things that it takes to get better as a passer, the other thought he could get over on his athletic ability forever without doing the little things it takes to truly fulfill his potential.
To answer your question it’s insane on both parts but all that stuff is a bunch of media hype anyway. Most people need those media meatheads to tell them whose hot and who’s not. Matty struggled near the end of last year as he is right now, but he’ll adjust because he’s a hard worker. He may not ever be a Joe MonElway or Peyton Marino but he’ll be a better passer than Vick ever was.
the violins are playing...
November 15th, 2009
8:26 pm
The Vick thing is SENTIMENTAL. Sure, Vick was exciting for a time. But now Vick nostolgia is tired out.
The Falcons needlessly self-destructed today. Vick nostolgia is not giving us any helpful insights about that.
PMC
November 15th, 2009
8:26 pm
Just have to hang in there. 5-4 with a tough stretch coming up. They need to win 10 or 11 to give themselves a chance. The Falcons need to adjust to how they are being played. The run game is doing very well. I think they are pressing a bit in the passing game. Losing 3 out of 4 is tough but they just need to be resiliant get back to winning and focus on the important stuff.
Stafford sux
November 15th, 2009
8:26 pm
Bob from Winder
November 15th, 2009
7:55 pm
If I see Matt throw the ball out of bounds 4-5 times a game I will puke.
He plays too conservative, get loose like farve or cutler and let it rip try to win instead of trying not to lose
Amen Brother!!
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:27 pm
What is the “you people” stuff? You mean clear thinking, rational people who judge one by the content of their character? I did not blame Vick anymore than I blame Ryan. If we get a few more seasons of games like today, I will want to see a change at QB, just like I wanted to see one after Vicks two bad season in 05 and 06.
But why is it “YOU PEOPLE” always wanted to make excuses for Vick? You throw up some half stats trying to say he had a great 2006, but lost because the players around him.
What a whiner.
PMC
November 15th, 2009
8:27 pm
The next two games are crucial to the WC chances. Need to beat the Giants and the Eagles to get those tie breakers.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:28 pm
Falcons fans and the CHOKE deserve one another. Should be a 2 team race for last.
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:29 pm
“What do you mean, you people?” “What do YOU mean, you people?” Nope. No racism there.
JSS
November 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
OK, I’m going to bash Dan Reeves… He was one of the all-time greats… Great in destroying a draft board! Name me 6 Reeves picks in Atlanta that amount to more than a hill of beans?
I will again note my previous statement. Matt Ryan is supposedly such a great cerebral intellect. If he is spending all of this time in film study, clearly something is missing! Hello!!!
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
Vick Supporter: Matty will not surpass Vick’s rushing yardage.
Nor will he surpass number of home field fans flipped off.
Or for that matter STD’s spread.
Or, blowing off Congress and one off the teams biggest financial backers.
Oh, and then there’s mans best friend…
J
November 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
Hello,
I have been thinking all year long that the curse will continue. I really do not think we will ever have consecutive winning seasons.
Might be time to tank and get a good draft pick. Shame we lost the 2nd rounder due to the Gonzalez trade. Hate to sound defeatist, but the Saints have runaway with the NFC South and there are tons of teams with the same 5-4 record without having the brutal schedule that we do. Couple that with Turner going down…..
Bill Simmons
November 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
Every one of Pat White’s Wildcat cameos is the exact opposite of Michael Vick’s cameos in Philly. With White, anything is possible. With Vick, it’s just depressing. This might be the single worst comeback that didn’t involve a porn star, wrestler, musician or Magic Johnson. Can we all agree that (A) he lost his legs; (B) pre-2007 Vick is gone and not coming back; and (C) it doesn’t matter where he plays next year, since he won’t be good, anyway? You know how you can block people on Twitter? I wish I could block all “Where is Michael Vick going in 2010?” stories from my eyes and ears. Doesn’t matter. We don’t care.
chemdawg
November 15th, 2009
8:31 pm
I don’t get it… Vick doesn’t play for the falcons anymore. It’s like comparing Ryan to Jeff George or Byron Leftwich. If this whole thing is about race, then compare him to Leftwich too. Vick wasn’t dropped for Ryan. Ryan was drafted while Vick was in Jail. After being released from jail, Vick addressed his lying and laziness in the 60 minutes interview. I believe his exact words were “I was the first one out of the building and the last one to arrive” Can we let Vick die already and let the scars heal?
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:31 pm
@Pump Your Freakin’ Brakes Already
We’ll see about that man. Vick will get it done. Hell, he was better than Ryan without even trying, apparently.
As far as football, you people under estimate Vick’s football IQ. You can’t make the plays he made ON THE FIELD being dumb. you were right about Vick on alot of points, but Vick had instincts on the field that have never been seen before
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:31 pm
Choke, 8 picks and 9 Fumbles. So he was directly responsible for 17 Turnovers. So, if Ryan turns it over 5 more times, he will equal Vicks 2002. Lets be fair.
jojatek
November 15th, 2009
8:32 pm
Bottom line: This is the first real gut-check for this team, and a good test for Dimitroff as well as he works to overcome mid-season injuries on both sides of the ball. Time for Ryan and his teammates to man-up, win next weekend, and “finish the drill”. Matt… we know you’re young and have alot to learn; however, that’s not something we want to hear in a press conference. There is a disturbing lack of discipline (devastating turnovers, penalties, and errant chip-shot field goals) that is beginning to settle in with this team. You’re the quarterback… stop making excuses, talk to the offense, and straighten it out!! That’s what great teams (and great QB’s) do…
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:33 pm
BONE
Just so everybody knows:
In Vicks 2nd year (1st year as a full time starter): he threw 8 ints.
Matty Noodle has 12 ints already.
LMAO so if Vick sucks what does that make Matty Noodle who has way more weapons then Vick had. I’ll wait to hear the excuses LMAOOOOOOO
You did about the worst thing you could do, LOL. Bringing up stats. You’re right, Vick only threw 8 interceptions his second year, while Ryan has thrown 12.
Well….(oh yeah, here it comes)….
Vick had 16 thrown touchdowns all season long. Ryan already has 13.
Vick had 9 fumbles. Ryan has 0.
So yeah, no excuse for Ryan’s interceptions. None for Vick’s fumbles, either.
Pump Your Freakin' Brakes Already
November 15th, 2009
8:33 pm
@ Conservative White Male
Turner was lazy for not coming back in the game? Dude are you serious?? Ever had a high ankle sprain????????? It doesn’t tickle my friend, believe me. Kinda makes it hard to play NFL football. Besides, his backup did OK. We didn’t execute, had some bad calls and some poor throws…missed a chipshot and got GASHED for the clinching TD. He’s just a RB not Jesus.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:34 pm
@mars
I’m not being racial when i say “you people”. Its easier to type than having to type “falcon fans” every post.
Read my posts woman. Nothing racial about them. Schultz said he would bann those that make racial comments and I’m still posting, so that should tell you something
Quagmire
November 15th, 2009
8:34 pm
It was looking pretty good after four games that the Falcons would finally have two consecutive seasons of better than .500 ball, but now that’s not looking as likely. Unbelievable that after over 40 years of football, the Falcons might still be looking for their first back-to-back winning seasons in franchise history.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:35 pm
VS, you hit the nail on the head, VIck was great “WITHOUT EVEN TRYING”.
Well, that sums up a true loser. The world is littered with those of lots of ability, and lack of effort who fall short of their potental.
Me, I would rather have the lesser talented/hard worker. They generally come out ahead in life. As a matter of fact, I am one of those guys, and I always hated those who had what I lacked, but it drove me, and today, I have more than most. So, go ahead and idolize somebody who had it all, but threw it away.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:36 pm
Vick Supporter ,
Alright, you’re a diehard Vick fan. What in the devil is Andy Reid doing with the guy? Are they flat-out just using him to boost attendance, or what? I’m not being sarcastic, believe me. But I’m failing to see what the deal is. Vick isn’t getting any burn. Maybe he’s having trouble learning Reid’s system, and we’ll see more from him next year. It’s 9 games into the season. I think we all knew Vick wasn’t taking McNabb’s job from him as long as he was healthy. But Vick’s physical ability makes him a weapon, doesn’t it? Then why isn’t Reid using him?
Eric C.
November 15th, 2009
8:37 pm
Vick Supporter…and just why do you support Vick?
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:37 pm
Bill Simmons
November 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
Every one of Pat White’s Wildcat cameos is the exact opposite of Michael Vick’s cameos in Philly. With White
I feel the same about the CHOKE and Joe Flacco every time I see those 10 Picks the last 5 games
FALCON FAN ?????
November 15th, 2009
8:37 pm
OK it’s time to bench RYAN so that he can do a VINCE YOUNG. ELAM MUST BE CUT BY 8AM TOMORROW MORNING. FALCONS HAVE A CITY WIDE TRY OUTS FOR KICKER AND CORNER BACK.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:38 pm
Matt”Choke” Ryan ,
I have to say, you CAN be mildly entertaining at times (but lay off the caps, will ya?). Tell you what, I’ll talk Falcons exclusively, but only if you quit bringing up Flacco and Vick (”Oh, the memories”…and all that rot), okay?
By the way, it really IS painfully obvious when you post under different names (your syntax and other patterns are the same no matter what name you use), so don’t think that bringing up those other quarterbacks under one of your other 38 names is going to cut it.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
Mr Charlie
I give it to you…I’m one of the people also who’s had to overcome. I’m speaking of Vick on the field. My point was he took the falcons to heights we’ve never had with out apparently putting all of the time he should have.
You said he was just flat out dumb (he made a huge dumb choice off the field)….i was talking about on the filed and the plays that he made.
you just take words and twist them around to your advantage, but hey, thats what you do. Good for you
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:31 pm
Choke, 8 picks and 9 Fumbles. So he was directly responsible for 17 Turnovers. So, if Ryan turns it over 5 more times, he will equal Vicks 2002. Lets be fair.
Is it also fair to compare 2002 vs 2009 in regards to playoff wins and pro bowl appearances?
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
Vick Supporter, I’ll ask you again, little girl. DID YOU READ THE REST OF MY COMMENT that you felt hellbent on responding to? No. You “cherry picked”. Therefore your point of view is biased and unvalid. Go change your panties.
will
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
if you have a team that needs to get back on track just play the falcons.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
VS, I am glad that you admitted Vick did not try his hardest, I guess, he, and you, were satisfied with one trip the the NFC championship game, another quick exit from the playoffs. I, like you, fell in love with Vicks talents, but his obvioulsy unwillingness to put in the time necessary to be the greatest QB he could be bothered me. And in the end, I am glad he is gone. For 100 million, I would expect his best. However, maybe that is your ethic and motto, “Don’t try hard, make excuses, and in the end, tear down those to took your opportunities”. Maybe you line Vick so much because you are just like him.
Pump Your Freakin' Brakes Already
November 15th, 2009
8:41 pm
@ Vick Supporter: I agree that he did have some incredible instincts on the field. I just wish some of those instincts had led his butt to the film room while he was here because:
A) The time he spent in the film room might have kept him from spending that time doing illegal things and we might still have him (no disrespect to our current QB)
B) He would have been an unstoppable force for us. You can’t gameplan for what he could have been if he had hit that film room like a real champ.
Brenda
November 15th, 2009
8:41 pm
remember how cool mike smith was last week when he fought deangelo hall? forget him and his $15k fine. he is a clown and only arthur blank would hire him. great job, blank. jimmy the joke mora, bobby petrino and now this ernest borgnine look alike. THE CURSE OF DAN REEVES IS ON YOUR SORRY SIDELINE STANDING ARSE! Lotsa luck to the schlep in the red vest. you screwed dan reeves and now his curse will follow you the rest of your sorry life.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:41 pm
Of course, this is probably like asking a fish not to swim….
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:41 pm
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
8:33 pm
BONE
Just so everybody knows:
In Vicks 2nd year (1st year as a full time starter): he threw 8 ints.
Matty Noodle has 12 ints already.
LMAO so if Vick sucks what does that make Matty Noodle who has way more weapons then Vick had. I’ll wait to hear the excuses LMAOOOOOOO
You did about the worst thing you could do, LOL. Bringing up stats. You’re right, Vick only threw 8 interceptions his second year, while Ryan has thrown 12.
Well….(oh yeah, here it comes)….
Vick had 16 thrown touchdowns all season long. Ryan already has 13.
Vick had 9 fumbles. Ryan has 0.
LIAR LIAR LIAR – He had 2 alone against the Cowboys.
You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you Sambo
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:44 pm
Pro Bowl appearance don’t mean anything, nor more than ROY means, just a beauty contest.
So Vick, in his best year our of the 6 years he was here, took them to the NFC game. That is the shining moment in his now over career. That ranks him tied for 2nd with Bartkowski, behind Chris Chandler as the best QBs in the existance of this sorry franchise, not exaclty HOF stuff, now, is it?
Lets see where Ryan does in her career.
Seriously...
November 15th, 2009
8:44 pm
@Pump Your Freakin’ Brakes Already
We’ll see about that man. Vick will get it done. Hell, he was better than Ryan without even trying, apparently.
As far as football, you people under estimate Vick’s football IQ. You can’t make the plays he made ON THE FIELD being dumb. you were right about Vick on alot of points, but Vick had instincts on the field that have never been seen before
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What I find interesting is how people used to say Vick didn’t have the intellectual ability to read NFL defenses. Contrarily, Matt Ryan has thrown more INT’s than any other QB in the last 5 weeks and all people can say is how “young” he is.
S
November 15th, 2009
8:44 pm
To Vick Supporter:
I think your comments are absolutely without merit and I’ll “be a man and admit” a few things to you real quick. You claim that Vick is/was a better QB? Vick’s first year, he played 8 games; 62.7 rating; 50/113 TOTAL completions/attempts which is 44.2 percent. Ok, only 8 games right? The next year, he played 15 games: 81.6 rating (granted, monster improvement); 231/421 TOTAL completions/attempts which is 54.9 percent.
In Matt Ryan’s first year, his rating was 87.7; 265/434 TOTAL completions/attempts which is 61.1 percent. Yes, Matt Ryan threw 3 more interceptions in his 16 game stretch compared to Michael Vick’s 15-game stretch, yet Matt Ryan threw for 3440 yards vs. 2936 for Michael Vick. Now I know you said to forget the statistics, but are you serious?! In terms of raw talent, Michael Vick had/probably still has it all, but that’s not being a good QB. Being a good QB means making decisions with your arm, not your legs, and quite frankly, Michael Vick always ran first, and passed the ball second. You can claim anything you want, but the statistics ARE what define a player because you wouldn’t say that a defensive end is amazing if he averaged 3 sacks a year, or claiming a WR as incredible if he only averaged 500 yards a year. The bottom line is you can say whatever you want but the statistics don’t lie. Matt Ryan is a better quarterback and Michael Vick was never better than him. Yea, he made plays. That’s true. He is an amazing athlete, and an amazing running back. And you claim that he’s the second-string QB on Philadelphia because he is in the Wildcat instead of Kolb? The two things have nothing to do with each-other. Ronnie Brown is not even on the depth chart at quarterback but he still takes snaps. Honestly man, I’d re-evaluate my comments if I were you.
And for the record, and again, this is me “being a man and admit[ing]” things, no team in the league lost their top three draft picks to injuries, their two starting running backs, and their starting corner. The Falcons have had to overcome incredible adversity PLUS one of the hardest schedules in the league and they are still above 500. Say what you want, but when this team gets healthy, the league is in trouble.
By the way:
Matt Ryan’s stats: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8780
Michael Vick’s stats: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448/career;_ylt=AudGN.Us6s0OZZ.8sitxC9f.uLYF
the violins are playing...
November 15th, 2009
8:45 pm
The Vick obsession is sentimental. Anyone need a tissue?
Cedrick
November 15th, 2009
8:46 pm
PMC,
HAHAHAHA we gonna go to New York (coming off a bye week) beat them at home possible in the cold and/or snow. Please, Ryan gonna get up there and freeze up some more. This QB is baked for the year. Can’t wait to see Vick & Philly in the dome though. Welcome back VICK! HAHAHAHAHAHA
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:46 pm
The point I was trying to make before being sidetracked by (well, never mind. He’s not important), as a fan of whoever our QB happens to be at the moment (and always have been) we should not offer blind adoration when our guy performs poorly. We need to hold him, and all of them, responsible. Matty is our guy, and I’m behind him. And I’m wearing workboots, so he really doesn’t want a kick in the @$$! Do your job, Matty!
preston
November 15th, 2009
8:48 pm
OMG this stuff about bringing Vick into the discussion about todays game is about to make me throw up. Regardless of what position you take on that issue, all of you guys sound like idiots……what in the world does Vick have to do with this game or the organization at this point. The guy is a closed chapter here. Matt Ryan is getting his due criticism for his recent performance…….the guy is struggling at bad times in the game, and it isnt going unnoticed…….no one is giving him a pass……..geesh……there was no conspiracy against Vick…….he was backed to the fullest by Arthur Blank and the Falcons organization, and as much as it pained me to see the falcons part ways with him, he had no one to blame but himself……geesh, this is getting ridiculous!!!
Pump Your Freakin' Brakes Already
November 15th, 2009
8:50 pm
@ Seriously…
Yeah that is interesting, and I have theory for what that was all about but there’s enough race baiting going on in the board so I’m not gonna go there. I’ll just say that Vick had to WANT to get better and he needed coaches that demanded that he do more to improve but not enough of that seemed to happen.
Cedrick
November 15th, 2009
8:50 pm
Seriously….,
What do you expect?? Mike Vick was not the typical pocket white QB that everyone seems to love even though he was a winner. Look at the Titans, they railed on Vince as a young second year QB but Vince was a winner. It took the owner to threaten the coach to get Vince back into the starting role even though the team was 0-6. Now Tenn has just won there 3rd straight game because Vince has limited his mistakes and used his leggs when needed. Where would Tenn be if they would have pulled the trigger before 0-6??
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
The CHOKE now ranks 3rd in the NFL in interceptions, and one more than the rookie in Detroit
will
November 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
work on matt’s mechanic’s
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
In Ryans 1st year, he went 11-5 and got to the playoffs. Vick rode the bench. So, I would have to say year one goes to Ryan.
I would also have to assume regardless of what happens, Ryans years 6 and 7 will also be better than Vicks.
Lets see how year 2 goes before we make any judgements, but right now, Ryan’s year 1, 6 and 7 beats Vick.
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
Oh, Good Grief! The master of turning peoples words around is accusing others of turning peoples words around. Well, that’s what he does. Geez! Do you even read your OWN posts?
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:39 pm
VS, I am glad that you admitted Vick did not try his hardest, I guess, he, and you, were satisfied with one trip the the NFC championship game, another quick exit from the playoffs. I, like you, fell in love with Vicks talents, but his obvioulsy unwillingness to put in the time necessary to be the greatest QB he could be bothered me. And in the end, I am glad he is gone. For 100 million, I would expect his best. However, maybe that is your ethic and motto, “Don’t try hard, make excuses, and in the end, tear down those to took your opportunities”. Maybe you line Vick so much because you are just like him.
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I assume you’re calling me a t.h.u.g because I support Vick…..if you are, so what.
You think you’re the only one who has a story? Lol. I can’t believe its this bad that people bash me on here because i support a damn player and speak my opinion on another….
What a sad society we live in…really. You’re actually offended that I would support Mike Vick,lol
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:53 pm
mars
you should try reading your own posts,lol. You’d be surprised at some of the nonsense that you say
Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:53 pm
Dear Fans,
I just wanted to say thanks again for the blind faith. A blind man can see that I’m not really what everyone thought I was but they continue to hype me. I think I was in over my head here in the NFL but I’m too headstrong to admit it. I dont know if I’ll ever stop looking like a deer in the headlights when the pressure comes because I’m scared. I just dont have that killer instinct Atlanta. I wont be that QB you guys thought I could because it simply isnt in me to be. I’m also colorblind. I thought all those balck jerseys where actually my guys I was throwing to. Sorry guys. Like I say every week, I’m still learning and trying to get better. I’ll keep making the same excuse until I’ve lost enough games where I cant anymore. I lost Turner today so I’ll show you all that I cant beat a team by myself. Thanks Atlanta!!!
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
8:53 pm
And Choke, what about Vicks inability to throw ONE STINKING 4TH QTR TD PASS in the entire 06 season? Talk about choking under pressure.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:54 pm
THE BOTTOM LINE: Falcons have lost 3 out of last 4.
So if it’s not the quarterback’s fault – who’s is it?
mars
November 15th, 2009
8:55 pm
You should try reading my posts as well. Obviously you haven’t.
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:56 pm
Look Falcon fans if Matt Ryan can stop turning the ball over we can get to 10 victories and still make the play-offs!
We have Tampa twice, The Jets and Buffalo then we would have to beat Phily or the Giants at home. We are a very good home team!
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
8:58 pm
How did Eric Weems get tackled by the kicker?
@Choke are you serious no one player lose the game by themselves!
db
November 15th, 2009
8:58 pm
Well we didn’t play well on defense but still had a chance to win…….why in the world would you call that play first of all…..and Matt should not have thrown the ball second of all. Well get ready gang….7-9 may be looking right at us.
Kudzu
November 15th, 2009
8:58 pm
ESPN sucks, no Tech coverage, no Hawks (beatdown of the Celtics) coverage, won’t cover the Falcs less we loose…pi** on ESPN…
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:58 pm
Mr Charlie has been smoking on that “Chief”….all these crazy a…. comments,lol
Mr Charlie to Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
8:58 pm
I can quit you Matt!
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
8:59 pm
Falcons: 7-9.
End of story.
To many INTs
Jamie
November 15th, 2009
9:00 pm
Tell Nancy Ice to turn on NBC and take lots of notes!
The Boss
November 15th, 2009
9:00 pm
“Nick”- yea you needed to keep going. You left out the one with the biggest support of all” Obama!”
There, now list is complete.
Mr Charlie to Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
9:01 pm
Forgive me Matt I can’t quit you.
cdog
November 15th, 2009
9:01 pm
talking about mike vick is not going to help, he’s in philly. its ryan amd the coaching who must straighten things out.the secondaryb has no heart. florida’s secondary and their recieving coorp is better than the falcons. what does that equal?a losing season. management knew this but they din’t address it when they needed to.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:02 pm
Your inablity to understand the importance of effort leads me to believe you too, must lack it. You put whatever tag you want to put on it, but I did not call you anything.
You hit the nail on the head, I grew to dislike Vick because he simply did not try his hardest. When I mention the failures of the 2006 team, you brought up his teammates, making excuses for him not putting in maximum effort. However, if the QB was not trying his best, what makes you think the line is trying theirs, or the recievers as well? The entire “I am so talented, I don’t have to do the grunt work” attitude is contagious.
That is what leadership is about, that is the component Vick lacked. You admitted as much. Again, but happy with is phenominal career of one NFC championship game. Personally, I expected much more out of him.
JSS
November 15th, 2009
9:03 pm
Racist…
Standing before the NAACP National Convention in July 1992, Independent Presidential candidate Ross Perot used the following statement: “Financially, at least, it’s going to be a long, hot summer. I don’t have to tell you who gets hurt first when this sort of thing happens, do I? You, your people do. Your people do. I know that and you know that.”
Non racist…
In commenting on individuals who were not fans of NFL and former Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick, blogger “Vick Supporter” used the following statement: “you people never judged Vick according to a “team” game. you people never blamed anyone else but Vick for the team’s troubles.”
It is not that hard to see the difference… Well, maybe if you are capable of being objective in the matter.
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
9:03 pm
@Mr. Charlie please stop posting! First you are giving Matt Ryan all the credit for the Falcons going 11-5 last year! Then you do not want to blame him for the 4 losses this year. Stop it man!
A QB cannot make a player catch the ball in the 4th quarter! There were many dropped passes for touchdowns during that season! Did you check and see how many touchdowns he ran for in the 4th quarter?
Stop with the dumb comments Mr. Charlie!
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:05 pm
Nope, I can’t quit on Matt, just like I could not quit on Vick, well, until he quit on himself.
NXS
November 15th, 2009
9:06 pm
Vick Supporter, can you please give your Vick fetish a rest. He’s gone dude. He’s not coming back. There’s a new quarterback in town, and his name is Matt Ryan. He’s a pretty good QB and most here think he’ll get a lot better. So get over it. If you’re so enamored with Vick, why not go sing his praises on the Philly blogs because the folks following the Falcons really don’t give a crap about what #7 might or might not be doing at this time and point were he still a Falcon because….. HELLO…. he’s not!
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
9:06 pm
Matt “Choke” Ryan ,
I’m not a liar (funny YOU, calling ME that), I just got my stats wrong. Now if that happened as often as you making your predictions, then it would be clear that I’m a liar. Please don’t make me drag up the stuff you’ve posted wrongly….hell, I’d have to get paid for that one, it would literally take all day to gather the data.
By the way, nice try with the “Sambo” stuff. You’re just not going to get me that easily, kid. We both know you enjoy saying things like that where you can’t get your lily hiney kicked. LOL….
By the way:
THE BOTTOM LINE: Falcons have lost 3 out of last 4.
So if it’s not the quarterback’s fault – who’s is it?
You’re not REALLY serious with that question, are you? Wow…I keep forgetting. It’s ALWAYS the quarterback’s fault when a TEAM loses. I wonder how that logic applies to your old friends Vick and Flacco….
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:07 pm
Keeping it Real, Who said I did not blame Matt for the losses this year? He stunk it up to day, no excuses. Show me one post where I say he is not responsible.
SirReal
November 15th, 2009
9:08 pm
I’m just done w/ Ryan….like I said you all can buy the “sophomore slump” bs if you want to. He just isnt showing he has the tangibles at this point. Wait and see what happens when we go the face the G-men….if he doesnt come through with a win…then maybe you guys will stop lying to yourselves.
Greg Mendel
November 15th, 2009
9:08 pm
Delhomme was brilliant today. He had time to be brilliant. He had time to watch reruns of “I Love Lucy,” eat a ham sandwich, and go “eeny, meeny, miney, moe” while choosing between open receivers. Otherwise, he brilliantly handed off for another eight-yard rush. No need for happy feet. No need for feet, even.
I’ll still take Matt Ryan over Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, or the guy who electrocuted dogs for fun.
The Falcons have had more than forty years to build a winning team. For the first time, they seem to be doing it.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:09 pm
Choke, so in 2005 and 2006 when we finished 2-6, losing to some really bad team, who’s fault was it? The QBs?
Mr Charlie to Matt Ryan
November 15th, 2009
9:10 pm
Let’s go to the Mountain Matt, you know I can’t quit you.
Big Ray
November 15th, 2009
9:10 pm
JSS ,
I agree. It’s not a racist statement coming from Vick Supporter . Oh wait, I’m black, so that automatically means that my opinion is forfeit in this matter, right? LOL…..
People are crazy. None moreso than the “Choke” character. I still think the AJC is paying him to do what he does. Nobody is really this manic…are they?
Headmofo
November 15th, 2009
9:12 pm
This loss has was no different than the other losses we had this year. Matt Ryan clearly is not comfortable in the pocket. Matt Ryan clearly has happy feet. Matt Ryan clearly doesn’t have the arm that he thinks he has. Every week I cringe when he drops back for a pass because I just don’t have the same confidence in his skill set that I had last year. I think Mike Smith better take a good hard look at the last 10 picks that Matt has thrown. Seriously, we all want to see Matt do well but he didn’t just start looking bad this week. He has looked bad since we played New England. It has been masked by the running game. Think back to when we drafted Matt and everyone talked about how many picks he threw at Boston College (hummm remeber that???) All these picks are nothing new.
What and the hell was Tye Hill doing? He thought he was the guy because he returned a deflected pick for a TD against a bad team.?. No Tye… You actually have to show up, tackle and cover in this leauge and if you were unsure if you should have been pulled or not just take a look at who you were replaced by and think about how many more passing TDs we gave up after you left the game. No one dislikes Grimes, he is a tough nose player. His only down fall has been he has simply been outsized by larger receivers. Don’t buy a house here yet Tye.
Mike Peterson- Stop jawing so much and make plays. That last running TD was on you. You should have made that tackle and you didn’t. Just play your game and be a sure tackler. 3rd and 5 game on the line and we give up a touch down when everyone in America knows its a run to drain the clock. Leaders don’t always talk sometimes they make the obvious plays.
DeCoud- You allowed a sure pick to hit the ground. Dude, remember that they drafted a saftety last year in the second round. Don’t give anyone a reason to re-consider you in 2010. You seriously need to take advantage of your opportunity. When the ball is in the air its ok for you to think its yours. You had a gift wrapped pick!
Matt Ryan- What’s up with the happy feet? Sometimes you appear to be ready to run when the protection hasn’t broken down yet. Settle down and keep your eyes downfield and allow the open receivers to make plays. If at all possible throw to the guys wearing the Falcons Jerseys and not our opponents. Matt we Falcons fans need you down the strecth. Please evaluate what is going on around you. If other players on the team were playing like you have been over this strecth of games they would be released or T.D. and Rich McKay would be searching the streets for a replacement. We (well Uncle Blank and us Season Ticket Holders)are a few million into you so that is not an option but you have definitely got our attention in a bad way. Tighten up Matt! Whenever we have the momentum and are driving in for a score with three minutes left in the game on first down – that’s not the time to force the ball and throw a pick.
Jason Elam- What the hell? WTF? All you do is kick.. All you do is kick.. Really, I am sure Uncle T.D. is looking for a replacement while you guys are on the bus trip home. Don’t think fans are going to let this go. We spend our hard earned dollars to come to games and see our investments produce at a high level. Earlier in the season we endured similar unexplained play from you and this one cost us. I didn’t see your name on the injury report so no rotted hamstring excuses this time. No one asked you to kick a 55 yarder. Even if they did, all you do is kick……
Mike Smith- I can appreciate you going for it on 4th and 1, especially with the way the Defense had been playing in the first half and our place kicking woes. I liked the call but in the playoffs (yea that place we all thought we might be going) we are going to need a kicker and a corner. It might not be a bad idea to start bringing in some corner help and warming up another leg for place kicking duties.
Draft 2010
1st rnd Top Flite Corner Back
2nd rnd Tony Gonzalez (via trade with K.C.)
3rd rnd Linebacker
4th rnd Defensive End/or Tackle
5th rnd Specialist/Receiver (Harry Douglass may not be the same player)
6th rnd Kicker
7th rnd Tye Hill (via trade with St Lois)
Keep it Real!
November 15th, 2009
9:12 pm
Mr Charlie…. You cannot make workers who get paid worked hard at their craft. You can try to encourage a good work ethic but we all know not everyone is going to follow your lead.
First the head coach is the leader of a team! Bill Parcels, Don Shula, etc and the list goes on and on.
M.Vick exhibit poor workmanship but each paid player must try and get better on their own that is what they get paid to do!
The Boss
November 15th, 2009
9:12 pm
“Mars”, your 100% right. Ryan is laying eggs right now BUT…one thing for sure is he is smart enough to know that the only way to improve is through hard work, and actually studying the game. And THAT my friend is the #1 difference between the two QB’s. I’ll take the hard worker and his chances for future success ANY day over our old QB.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:12 pm
I will Quit on Ryan when he quits on himself, the same rule I have for Vick.
mrBill
November 15th, 2009
9:13 pm
Field goal kicker misses go ahead kick.
QB throws pick
Defense third down and long gives up touchdown down run
Looks like a “team” lost today
James
November 15th, 2009
9:13 pm
After sitting here and reading the comments; I have a couple of things to say. First Ryan and interceptions is nothing new, he did it in college, but people gave the excuse of him trying to win games, and he didn’t have any help on offense, so I guess no one ever thought that he would ever have pressure on him to win games as an NFL quaterback. Secondly, I understand Vick was not the most accurate quaterback, but if anybody seriously argues that Vick, was placed in the best situation to win, you are full of it. Roddy White is a pro bowler now, but come on, honestly who didn’t think he was a waste of draft pick before last season (the guy couldn’t catch a cold but naked in the artic) and the same for Jenkins. Running back, yea I don’t even need to touch that subject and the defense is still garbage, but blame the coach and gm who decided not to focus on it, because they thought they would be able to outscore everyone, which is their fault, because they placed extra pressure on a second year quaterback. Am I giving up on Ryan, no, he still has the oppurtunity to be great. The Falcons have the same problem they have always had, a suspect defense. I leave everyone with this be fair with your criticism.
Marco DeNiro
November 15th, 2009
9:15 pm
Come on Ryan get it together, black or white skin colors doesn’t matter to true football fans. Only the falcon’s team colors. I was and still a Vick fan, but I’m also a Ryan fan. I just hope we can get it together. We still got a shot at the playoffs, and next year might be the season we all (falcon fans) been dreaming for. ”Finish strong Birds”
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:18 pm
Keeping it Real. That is true in theory, but that is the difference between team that play for a paycheck, and teams that play for a championship.
I do agree it started with the coach, and Mora should have had the balls to bench Vick and put in Schaub when Vick did not put in maximum effort. So you are right, the failure ultimately was on the coaching staff, although it probably would have started a race war, but in the end, everyone would have came out ahead, probably even Vick.
Vick-Shaub, who would of thunk one was going to be leading a team to the playoffs, while the other ride the bench for what looks like his last year in the NFL.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:21 pm
See, Vick had more talent than Schaub, but obviously Schaub had the intangable Vick lacked. So, here we are 2009, and Schaub is headed to the playoffs, and Vick is riding the pine. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHA, Think of the friggin Irony. (VS and Choke, Google Irony if you do not understand).
Sos
November 15th, 2009
9:26 pm
MR. CHARLIE
Now you KNOW he won’t answer that question straight up. He never does. Not if it’s a direct challenge with evidence. Proves he’s not insane, there is “malice aforethought” present. Can’t be reasoned with. Like a monkey on crack or something. Let it have it’s time alone with the keyboard and computer. Take it away, and you’ll have to put the poor thing down for good.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:28 pm
Sorry guys I get teary eyed when I think of Matt Ryan.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:29 pm
My sweet sweet Matt
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:30 pm
Love me some Matty Ice
FalconUGAFan
November 15th, 2009
9:33 pm
@James..I don’t think anyone here feels that Vick was given the weapons that he needed to be successful. If he was the QB now, who knows where the Falcons would be. But the point is he is GONE and will NEVER be back, IMHO. So why all the talk about him? Its just non-productive and pointless. But people clearly want to talk about him and nothing that we say will ever stop them.
GTIronman
November 15th, 2009
9:34 pm
The kid threw 19 interceptions against a weak ACC bunch of teams. What did we think we were getting?
The Boss
November 15th, 2009
9:41 pm
“Vick Supporter”-
Vick was dumb? I know you didn’t say that but I couldn’t resist……. Geez, what an understatement that is. Has he even learned the English language yet, much less a playbook?
I think you should go on the Eagles blog as Vick Supporter with all this b.s, and see how “supported” you are! lol
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:42 pm
Aww, stealing my handles says I won the debate, because you cannot make any logical points. For the record, you are wrong about Ice. I would rather have Matt Schaub, so maybe I do love Matt. However, Author cowtowed to the black racists in this town and traded him in order to pacify the black “community”. Obviously, 3 years later, it dumping Vick and keeping Matty S would have been the correct move.
Or, maybe we just should have drafted Drew Brees instead of Vick in 2000, what do you think of that Choke and VS?
jeffp
November 15th, 2009
9:42 pm
Maybe time to take a chance on Larry Johnson? You have to look at the injuries this year at Nosetackle, RB/FB, etc. – definitely affects the gameplan.
Still that DEF line isn’t getting enough pressure and Abraham always seems to be hurt. What has happened to Jason Elam – getting old?
They really have been been in every game except the Dallas game this year. I do have to agree that Ryan is making some “decision” mistakes and that scares me.
However, the NFC is wide open and as they say, the Falcons can control their destiny with the upcoming games against Giants, Philly and Saints (2 of 3 at home). Couple this with games against Buffalo, NY Jets, and Tampa, I still see them winning 10 games this year – is it enough?
Keep the heads up fans because long way to go….
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:44 pm
Not only was Vick not the best Falcon QB ever (that dubious honor goes to Chris Chandler). But, he was not even the best QB in the class of 2000. Falcons should took Drew Brees.
Mr Charlie
November 15th, 2009
9:45 pm
Look like I shut both VS and Choke up. You guys can thank me later.
POSTS as Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 15th, 2009
9:45 pm
Me too. I have a love-hate relationship with Matt ryan. I hate that I love him so I have to post that he’s a bust. Really I want him to bust a nut in my butt.
Singletary
November 15th, 2009
9:59 pm
Time management, coaches. Why let 40 seconds run off the clock near the 2 minute warning, when you could have mounted 3-4 more plays with an effective use of a time out. (Not to second guess, but isn’t the red flag on a spot the LEAST likely to be unconfirmed after the zebra goes under the hood?)
falconeddy
November 15th, 2009
10:08 pm
I’m a little surprised by Ryan’s accuracy this year. I thought he would improve on last year. Today he certainly was a central figure in the loss.
That being said, this is the NFL not the SEC and the kicks that are being missed consistantly by Jason Elam are more than a little alarming. Professional kickers don’t miss 34 yard game winners, and if Elam hadn’t missed his we may be talking about how Ryan overcame inconsistant play with 4th quarter grit. We can’t go to the free agent list and get a better QB, a replacement for Norwood or Turner, a pass rusher to replace the non existant Jon Abraham or a shut down corner…… but I bet there’s a list of 20 guys who can kick the ball better than Elam has to date. Here’s to hoping a half dozen of them are working out at Flowery Branch in the next 48 hours.
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
10:12 pm
Vick will shine again
georgia tech breakin neckz
November 15th, 2009
10:12 pm
please let micheal turner but ok we really need him for these last 7 games but here is the bright spot N.O. has been very lucky with their win for four weeks and that defense of theres is seriously injured I think matt need to throw a lot of shorter passes from now on little dump offs and let you skill players work the field also if turner gets healthy for next weeks game let him run more than we throw he is been a beast for 3 games and was on his way to breaking another 150 yard day I dnt think it too serious because he already had 111 yds plus we were in this this game till the interception with 3:min what we do need is a place kicker was one of the causes we lost to car and N.O. keep hope alive we can do this still matt get control of your emotions thats why they call you ice
Jimmy
November 15th, 2009
10:13 pm
Vick didn’t have weapons to be successful? If he had them he wouldn’t know how to use them.
Vick threw bullets to receivers. He had NO touch on the ball.
Vick had problems staying in the pocket. His scrambling put way too much pressure on the offensive line trying to figure out where he was and how to protect him.
Vick had the benefit of a league leading running game. Yet for some reason, he still couldn’t complete 60% of his passes. He missed receivers high ALL the time.
I liked Vick. I was willing to spend my hard earned dollar to see him play. But let’s be real. He didn’t exactly light it up as a passer or as a QB. Much of that was HIS FAULT too…not a lack of talent around him. He had trouble hitting Algae Crumpler over the middle, for cripes sake.
Jimmy
November 15th, 2009
10:20 pm
Ryan is getting tons of pressure this year from very GOOD defenses.
Teams have adjusted to his game and they are treating him like the young QB he is.
Turner was not himself for the first six games of the season so the run game has just started to take off.
And how many drops has Jenkins had? How many routes has he blown?
Ryan’s interceptions have not all been on his either How many times have receivers tipped passes?
Has Ryan been as accurate this year? No. He did make some very accurate and tough throws today. He put the ball where only his receiver could get it. There are a lot of things going on during every play that affects what the QB does. It is no excuse…but it is reality.
Only a dummy or a person with an agenda doesn’t take all the variables into account when criticizing.
Oh and one more thing…Ryan is only a second year player. Some of his critics act as if he has been in the league ten years. That is just stupid.
WW
November 15th, 2009
10:28 pm
I think the fans deserve to know who called the down-the-field pass at the end of the game. If Ryan called it, then he blew the game, if someone else called it, then Ryan is off the hook. Jeff, please use your super powers to get us this information. We will all be waiting patiently here on your blog for the information.
Peion Deion
November 15th, 2009
10:28 pm
Who is Mike Vick??? Da Eagles havent even seen him so let it Die! MV7 is a ghost in the ATL, Ryan is a real QB & will be the franchise in a few years with experience so let Mike die in peace in maybe Buffalo where hes gonna be freezing his arse off! LMAO Mike Vick, puuuleeze let it go!
Boog
November 15th, 2009
10:29 pm
po ole falcons
Samuel
November 15th, 2009
10:34 pm
I’m officially off the bandwagon this team is going no where fast. Matt Ryan is not playing at a high level and the mistakes seem to be mounting from game to game. I like to see Jason Elam gone he can’t make a field goal when it seems to matter. Can we say New Orleans. I don’t like our defense they never play the whole game consistently. Although Muhammad push Tye Hill to get seperation early in the game. I don’t know if Tye Hill is the answer. John Abraham can’t seem to get to the quarterback and the beerman is an average player at best. They will miss Turner badly, he had got his mojo back. Jason Snelling played well he was the only bright spot. Sometimes I think our offensive coordinator puts the ball in Matt’s hands when he should call a running play. Vangorder can’t get the defense up to play from game to game. They were horrible that first half. I thought Svetek did a good job on Julius Peppers. If you are a Falcons fan get ready for a learning curve when it comes to Matty Ice. THis team is falling apart at the seems. The whole coaching staff stunk it up when it came to this game.
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10:34 pm
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Garza
November 15th, 2009
10:35 pm
Whats wrong with Ryan fans not liking Vick? I will never like Ryan not matter what he does, as one poster said before me at least im honest.
Pete
November 15th, 2009
10:36 pm
Vick was garbage his last 2 years in the league. How come our receivers magically started cathcing balls after Vick left? Like I said before Vick Supporter will not vote Mary Norwood and am willing to bet any amount of money he voted Obama. Blacks can do nothing wrong in his eyes. He does not care if they commit felonies because he is a “brother”. I will admit Ryan has sucked the last 5 weeks. Saying that, he will have a much better career than Vick. Vick will never again be a factor in this league. He can’t even get on the field anymore. On the year he is 2-6 for 6 yards with 1 rush for 7 yards. Nice. The blacks will support him no matter what.
georgia tech breakin neckz
November 15th, 2009
10:38 pm
and on defense put davis and babineaux in the middle with biermann and abraham send wire up for blitz support keep peterson and lofton for for the pass keep four back for the deep pass and you will see some thing different with our defense and let grimes start he may be small but he is a good tackler and he has heart somthing houston or hil dont have
Lash La Rue
November 15th, 2009
10:38 pm
Ryan didn’t lose the damn game. The Falcons lost as a TEAM=all the players screwed it up, just look at the ‘D” and other mistakes etc. it takes 11 to get the job done not just one.
Its easy to blame Ryan like everyone did on blog today. Hell Blame Bush ,Obama,are Palin its just as easy. TEAM, TEAM at least Coach Smith knows that. Always put the blame on QB but he can’t do it by himself. IF< IF <IF<IF<IF Thats a big word to have 2 letters. IF
Navigator
November 15th, 2009
10:43 pm
Ryan don’t call his plays (I doubt if he could do worse), he doesn’t block, run routes or play defense. Yeah he’s getting happy feet, and the more pressure he gets, the happier feet he will have. Until people realize that the Falcons are a mediocre team, the quicker we stop saying stupid things about how one player cause a loss. The whole bleeping team is responsible for this loss, starting with the sorry play calling from Mullarky.
Kris G
November 15th, 2009
10:44 pm
For all those who make the “you criticize Ryan because you’re racists” comment… LET IT GO. There has been ONE black starting QB for the Falcons. ONE. He happens to have the best winning percentage of all Falcons QB’s, despite his obvious and well documented flaws. Essentially, you’re a team up by six touchdowns complaining that the refs are biased against you because of a suspect pass interference call. Same also applies to all other Glenn Beck inspired twisted views on race relations. First of all, Vick is gone by his own choices, and irrelevant. Second of all, Ryan is the QB, and absolutely deserves criticism right now. I’m actually glad to hear criticism. Criticism after a loss is about losing, and human nature is to place blame on SOMEthing. Last thing I want is to think that Falcons fans are as racist in their support of Ryan as a few were in their early opposition to the last guy.
georgia tech breakin neckz
November 15th, 2009
10:48 pm
oh and pete mike vick is good in his own right and matt ryan in his but the one thing thats going to make this team better is matt ryan going to the short game like last year he need to go shorter on his throws and stop throwing in to double and triple coverage to get his confidence back and the falcons need to trust more to the run and get those boys on the o-line to make better block especially on the inside do some 2 and 3 step drops and roll outs for matt and he will get better but run the crap out of michael turner and get norwood back healthy and dont playm the race card you too vick supporters not healthy both are good at what they do
Vick Supporter
November 15th, 2009
10:49 pm
@Pete
You’re hilarious,lol. Your dumb ass post cracked me up,lol
Pete
November 15th, 2009
10:52 pm
Vick supporter, such a coward he will not post his name. Funny thing is, I understand the Ryan criticism he is getting. But Vick was terrible his last 2 years and had the same weapons at receiver than Ryan has.
PMC
November 15th, 2009
10:59 pm
All you Jerks… bring back Bartkowski… Brink back Chris Miller. Bring back..Billie Joe Tolliver..Chris Chandler…revisionist history.
These things aren’t even worth reading anymore.
GoGaBulldawgs
November 15th, 2009
11:04 pm
I’m not a fair weather fan! Go FALCONS!
scfalc
November 15th, 2009
11:10 pm
2 and 1 is a free play to take a shot down field. How have we never had an OC that thought that way? Are we ever going to throw vertical again?
Mike
November 15th, 2009
11:14 pm
Every qb Atlanta has ever had sucked but Vick. He took them to 11-5 when in a year that the 3rd best team in the NFC was 9-7 and 2 8-8 teams made the playoffs. No QB has ever gotten them that far. He went to Green Bay in his second year, was spotted 14 points by his D and Special Teams, and deserves ALL the credit for that win. He does not deserve the blame for being sacked more per pass attempt than any other QB in the NFL his last year. Or the being third in fumbles among NFL QB’s. He does not deserve the blame in a pivotal Tampa gamethey were leading by 7 with less than four minutes to go and 2 turnovers by MV7 let Tampa steal the game. He never turned a 5 yard sack into an 18 yard loss. He never took himself out of a Dallas gane that was on the line. He never took a 14 point spot by Dunn in a Giants game and let sacks and turnovers give the game away. The Falcons ALMOST had back to back winning seasons under Vick. Vick is the reason I did not go stir crazy over Matt Ryans success last year. Today watching Ryan I felt like I did watching Vick in his last two seasons. I cursed him and called him names just like I did Vick. Atleast I can say these things about Ryan and not be a racist.
Lash La Rue
November 15th, 2009
11:17 pm
Glenn Beck inspired twisted views on race relations, said Kris G.
Kris, Glenn don’t give a damn what color race you are he tells it like it is. If the glove fits wear it. Everyone is on race. Race don’t matter if your right good if you wrong bad. F the color crap. I’m a Ryan Fan, I was a Vick fan, I didn’t see Bk are wh but two good QB’s. Give it a break.
Steve
November 15th, 2009
11:20 pm
Keeping it real, but do not count the Tampa wins because they are playing well as of late and without Turner, the falcons could get BBQed by the Bucs.
On another note, I know you guys are praising Ryan about his ability to move the team in scoring position which he does well; however, the problem is he like the gun to squeeze the ball in tight windows which is cruical in the red zone. I tried to warn Blank about this Ryan and his ability to make the tight throw because he does have the strongest arm in the NFL.
I know someone try to say his arm is not noodle, but did you see that last int. Ryan put everything he had in that throw and it may have travel 30 yards. The top NFL QBs in the NFL would have put that last pass on a throw and not float the ball in the air like that.
Arthur, I told you I wanted to be the GM of this team and after this failure, please call me. Right now, I would keep coach Smith and send Ryan packing. Her is an Idea, you may have to use a two QB system. Ryan is the QB up to you get to the red zone and Redman is the red zone QB.
Finally, you people was warned by all the sport writers tha Ryan was too much like Joey Harrington, but y’all wanted to get after folks for saying that. Scouting reporter are more right than wrong especially when he comes to a players phyical limitations.
Mike
November 15th, 2009
11:20 pm
it almost slipped my mind it was someone elses fault in 06 that Atlanta lost to Detroit and Cleveland down the stretch, but no way, no how was it Vick’s.
Kevrock/Smarty Jones
November 15th, 2009
11:21 pm
IF Elam (who should be cut..he’s done) made the FG. We could be just talking about how well we hung in the game and won. That miss FG hurt a lot. Like a missed extra point. Cost us the chance of winning the game.
aswingruber
November 15th, 2009
11:28 pm
Are folks really blaming this on the play calling? Just because the play is called does not mean that the QB has to force a throw into double coverage. There are several options on any given play, and Ryan, as has been the trend, was dead set on forcing the ball. Plenty of blame to go around but the ball is ultimately in the QB’s hands to make a play and he made the wrong one, again.
plussizemodel
November 15th, 2009
11:30 pm
As I’ve said before: Matty would do well to learn how to throw on the run. I understand chucking the ball out of bounds beats a turnover, but on the other hand you’re not a top notch QB until you can make something happen on the run. With Ryan, it’s sailing out of bounds every time. Work on this, please.
danny c
November 15th, 2009
11:38 pm
Maybe Coach Smith should follow Paul Johnson and go for it on 4th down rather than trying field goals.If you can’t gain one yard, you not gonna win.
Jeff Schultz
November 15th, 2009
11:53 pm
Smitty’s the man — don’t know who called the play but I know Ryan took blame for making the throw.
Zach
November 15th, 2009
11:56 pm
ok guys, we can bash Matty all you want, but how in the world do you pay a kicker $3.4 million to miss game changing 34 yard field goals. It’s just inexcuseable and shouldn’t be tolerated. I suggest that the falcons start looking for a new kicker that they can pay $3 million less who can make kicks when the game is on the line.
In all honesty, I have made 34 yard field goals, easily, and there is NO EXCUSE for Jason Elam’s miss.
smitty
November 15th, 2009
11:57 pm
negative analysis way over the top here……so ryan had a bad game, it happens (see sanchez) …….make mistakes and learn…….one thing at a time……there are only a few elite QB’s in the NFL and everyone else; i’ll take ryan over most of the rest of them…….. and now, about losing turner……with no ground game that could be a real problem for ryan…..as for ryan’s passing, he needs to not abandon the pocket too quickly, and instead step up and just throw the ball……
Jeff Schultz
November 16th, 2009
12:01 am
Greg, you said, “Who’s the better QB right now? It isn’t even close. Schaub.” Seriously? If you polled 32 GMs, how many do you think would take Schaub over Ryan?
Zach
November 16th, 2009
12:01 am
here is my real question, and its something Moose Johnson was hitting on during the broadcast, why in the world are the are the wrs not more open when turner has 111 yards on 9 carries. I just don’t get it. Matt is always having to make a tight through because no one is ever open enough for him to make an easy throw. Tony is always making tough catches with defenders draped all over him. Roddy is only uncovered when he catches the ball at the line of scrimmage.
I’m not trying to make excuses for the two picks, because they were bad, but make some better play calls, get some wr open, make you FREAKING FIELD GOALS (JASON ELAM!!!!), and play defense!
Garza
November 16th, 2009
12:05 am
Ok lets look at the facts Vicks first year did not play unitl late in the season beat a very good Miami team on the road. Ryan first year lead team to playoffs and lost. Second year Vick (full time starter) lead team to playoff win in Green bay. Ryans second year in progress. Vicks third year hurt in prseason game VS Ravens. Vick comes back late in season leads team to win over Panthers Dan Reeves is fired. Fourth year Vick leads team to NFC Title game Eagles win. Vicks fifth year team goes 7 and 9. Let me hear from you when Ryan wins a playoff game (which will not be this year.) Until then its no contest. Stats don’t matter wins do…Good luck Mary Ice…..the G-MEN are rested and ready 5 and 5 Ryan fans.
E43
November 16th, 2009
12:08 am
one word… DEFENSE. the equation to a young quarterbacks success is defense. name a quarterback in the NFL in his rookie/first year that is successful with a defense worse than the falcons who by the way came into the game ranked 31 against the pass at one time.
Mike
November 16th, 2009
12:12 am
Why do we pay a QB 76 mill to throw a ball game away. Elam missing the field goals that he has this year is unacceptable. I can accept the picks Ryan threy against New Orleans. The one that was clearly interference, the tipped ball, and the Hail Mary. But his last three 1 against Wash and the two against Carolina were horrible passes, and the decisions to throw them have been even worse. Jeff I would take Schaub over Ryan.
Jeff Schultz
November 16th, 2009
12:14 am
Jeff: On Larry Johnson. Do I think he’ll be discussed? Yes. Do I think it will/or should happen? No. 1) I’m really not sure he has anything left; 2) Given the organization’s intent to keep off-field issues to a minimum, obviously, can you see Arthur Blank giving L.J. a contract? I can’t.
Sophomore Slump
November 16th, 2009
12:22 am
Injuries not withstanding, the Falcon’s biggest problems are Ryan’s poor reads and decision making. His two interceptions at Carolina were the result of passes that should have never been attempted. An occasional errant throws is to be expected, but beginning with the fourteenth game last year, Ryan has too often thrown to receivers blanketed by zone coverage that would make completions dubious at best even if the balls were throw perfectly. And Ryan is lucky to escape with only two interceptions today. A third was narrowly avoided when a pass intended for Gonzalez was dropped by a defender surprised by being hit squarely in the chest with Ryan’s misguided delivery.
If Ryan’s unforced errors continue, back-to-back winning seasons will have to wait at least two more years.
Zoomie
November 16th, 2009
12:23 am
Terrible game. This was the same team that showed up for the New England game earlier in the season. They never played as if they believed they could win.
The Falcons defensive line is non-existent. We’ve passed the halfway mark of the season, and it’s evident: defensive line is the Falcons’ weakest link; they get handled every week. They are very consistent at getting no pressure on an opposing quarterback. We’re way past the point where we should see some improvement; unfortunately, there is none.
Speaking of no improvement: at this point in the season, one should expect to see the franchise quarterback settle in to the offense and provide consistent play. Without a doubt, Matt Ryan’s performance is deteriorating more every week. He played a dreadful game today. For the last four games, he’s been out of sync and throwing errant, mostly high, passes. Wrong thing to say, Ryan: regardless of your youth, playing against tough teams, and your learning curve, you are NOT getting better — you’re most assuredly getting worse. Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?
Ryan wasn’t alone in poor performance against the Panthers. The whole team performed poorly.
Bad loss to one of the league’s basement teams. Doesn’t bode well for putting together a winning season — and the playoffs are an extreme long shot at this point.
Just another year as an Atlanta Falcons fan. Endless excuses for lack of production . . .
JP
November 16th, 2009
12:58 am
Everyone wants a simple answer to why Ryan is playing poorly of late, but the fact of the matter is, it’s complicated.
1) As they said, teams have seen him on film for over a year now and can gameplan better for him.
2) Guys go through slumps, and with it only being his second year, this isn’t the least bit unusual.
3) Our receivers are not that good, not even Roddy White. Yes, he gets paid like a top receiver in the league, but tell me the last time you saw him make a spectacular leaping/diving/whatever catch like Larry Fitzgerald or Vincent Jackson. He doesn’t. Roddy too often drops easy catches. He ends up with a lot of catches because he’s good at getting open, but he can’t make the tough catches in traffic like a top wideout should. Jenkins I don’t even have to elaborate on, he’s just not very good, period.
4. Ryan doesn’t have a “noodle arm,” but he doesn’t have a canon by any stretch of the imagination. We’re not throwing the ball downfield very often, not sure if that’s bad playcalling or if Ryan just doesn’t have the arm for it, so defenses aren’t as spread out as they are against certain QBs. I think that’s also why so many of his throws are sailing high. He has to put more into it to get it there, and when you do that, your accuracy suffers.
In the end I think Ryan will be a great quarterback, but this is just like a young hitter in MLB. They can have a great start, but once pitchers adjust, it’s on them to make the next move and make their own adjustments to succeed. Some do, and some don’t, as we saw with Jeff Francoeur. We’ll have to wait to see which type Ryan really is, but I think he’s too smart and too determined to not figure it out.
Sidney R. Hill, Jr.
November 16th, 2009
1:38 am
Or maybe last season was the aberration and this is a “flat lined” franchise?
TB
November 16th, 2009
1:52 am
Yeah, Matt is making a lot more mistakes lately. Sure it is worrysome. His teamates and coaches also talk a lot about the above average extra work he puts in each week to cotinually learn. This is after all just his 2nd year. Wasn’t Brett Farve sitting on the Falcon bench his 2nd year in the league? The other thing that really stands out as being different from the beginning of the season is the offensive line. They had only given up 2 sacks in the 1st 4 games. Ever since that Dallas game, our offensive has not protected Matt as well. He is getting hit left and right by people that aren’t even touched once. That has of course led to his poor decision making. If the offensive line plays better, he will play better. They do kind of need each other. That said, looking at the performance of the whole team (except for running backs) the quest to finally have back to back winning seasons will be much harder. We all are starting to have some doubt now. Even when we had lesser coaching staffs, we played hard at home and hit or miss on the road. But hey, Giants on the road next Sunday. Remember, the visiting team ALWAYS wins that matchup. Lets keep that stat going.
CASEY
November 16th, 2009
3:41 am
I dont understand why it has to be all Matts fault,I mean Elam Missed a critical feild goal,and we didnt have Mike T. for the second half.Snelling only ran for 61 yards in 18 carries,so for those who say they should have ran the ball…plain and simple they couldnt get much going there either.And mmy only question is why isnt Matt hitting Tony G. more often?…This was a TEAM loss not a MATT loss.And for the record…The big and bad Patriots Have the Same record as the Falcons,haha
JSS
November 16th, 2009
4:02 am
Big Ray…
Good to hear from you, even if it is on Jeff Schultz’s blog (holding my nose).
It is like talking to a suicide bomber (talking to entrenched ideologues with an agenda), they refuse to accept the simple premise. Racism has many faces, South Africa faced up to their problem, and look at how they are poised to become the first African based superpower by the mid 21st century. That is if they can get a handle on their HIV/AIDS problem and the disintegration of their neighbor (Zimbabwe). Speaking of that nation, it is funny how the US and the former Rhodesia are the only two nations too prideful to do real soul searching; it is why we keep picking on the same scab and somehow expect for the wound to heal…
kc15aa
November 16th, 2009
4:29 am
First Matt throws have not been accurate, his receivers have made good plays on balls. He also seems to try to force throws into double and triple coverage as he locks on one receiver. In the case of the kicker (Elam), how many chip shots must he miss before we take another look at someone else. Our punter can kick field goals as he proved a few years back. He gets no pass here, he is consistently missing chip shots and he seems to get a pass.
harvardblue
November 16th, 2009
4:52 am
Time to call a spade a spade. Season is falling apart and everyone is acting like what we are seeing is not actually happeing. OK, Ryan is face of franchise and the perfect little golden boy and blah, blah, blah. Fact is, he’s playing terrible. Has been for a while. No one wants to admit it. Watch how Smith tears into the defense but won’t even look Ryan in the eye after he kills drive after drive. I wonder if the players have picked up on this favortism. I know they have cause the players are just like the rest of us. Then Smith won’t let OC or QB coach talk to media. What is that? Is he afraid the truth will be told.
And explain this: Why does it seem like when the Falcon’s offense is rolling good, with Ryan just handing off, the coaches feel that he must get the glory, so they call a play to kill the drive? Case in point: Falcon’s 1st drive, Turner carries twice to get us to the Panther’s 21. Then, 3 incompletions by Ryan. Why? STOP TRYING TO GET RYAN’S STATS UP AT THE EXPENSE OF WINS, DADGUMMIT! In other words, stop using the Mark Richt philosophy. You know: Sacrifice the success of the team so David Greene and Matt Stafford can look better than they really are. You know how he does it. Let his QBs throw and if the drive isn’t going good, let them hand off on 3rd and 10+ so he can blame the running game for the loss, eventhough his QBs are 25 for 50 for 85 yds and 2 INTs. And for those who don’t like that, well too bad cause Stafford NEVER won anything at UGA other than beating an overmatched and overrated Hawaii team. Oh, and Green has 1 SEC ring. Shockley has 2! Yeah, I said it!
falcon
November 16th, 2009
6:22 am
The Falcons are hurting at WR. Ryan has 2 options, Roddy White or Tony Gonzalez. Michael Jenkins is not talented enough to be a starter in the NFL. He drops too many passes. He gets no separation.
With that said, Matt Ryan is not the end all, cure all. If his primary receiver is not open, he has trouble keeping his composure and relocating a 2nd target. He has developed happy feet, which leads to his throws being off target.
Without Michael Turner, the Falcons will not break the curse. The schedule is just too tough.
falcon
November 16th, 2009
6:29 am
And one other thing Coach Smith…….drop Jason Elam like a wo’ out transmission! Dude is terrible. He has no confidence. Even extra points are not a lock with this guy. How many 34 yarders does he have to miss for you guys to see that Elam is no longer the kicker he once was? He is done.
jerry
November 16th, 2009
6:32 am
There is not one player on the defense worth a damn.
MR
November 16th, 2009
6:47 am
Why is everyone talking about the playoffs? This team has come a long way and won some games last year that they should not have won. They really were not a playoff team. Now we have a QB who is having a sophmore slump, is he different from last year, no. The Atlanta media and fans are the worst in the league. Lets get ride of Ryan because he is terrible and never will be a NFL QB. Start JPW, get Shockley back. thank goodness the leadership of this franchise do not panic. They will do what is necessary 2nd year QB and 2nd year headcoach have put this franchise on the move upward. Media and fans are working real hard to tear it down. As usual Jeff, you are an idiot.
MR
November 16th, 2009
6:53 am
Atlanta does not deserve a pro team. Mr. Blank, don’t build a new stadium. Take this team to a city who will appreciate them and support them.
DawginDC
November 16th, 2009
7:07 am
Stick a fork in em…matt ryan has been looking alot like joe cox lately…they need to sign larry johnson
DawginDC
November 16th, 2009
7:08 am
MR…shutup! you don’t you the city of Atlanta deserves a winner? tell me the last time the falcons have had back to back winning seasons?
Fair and Balanced
November 16th, 2009
7:09 am
Ummmm…why wouldn’t Mike Smith allow the OC and QB coach to speak with the media..what is that all about?? Surely there will be a scathing column about this coming up from Bradley or Schultz today..of course there will be!! LOL…yeah…hope nobody holds their breath waiting for it.
DawginDC
November 16th, 2009
7:09 am
hey Thomas Dmitroff…sign larry johnson and Brandon coutu
Normal
November 16th, 2009
7:25 am
This is just my observation, and if it has been posted before, my apologies. Having been a Falcon Fan since Tommy Nobis, I have a serious feeling that the jinx is still on and we will NOT have back to back winning seasons. I see 8-8 tops. Hope I’m wrong, but don’t think so. Blame it on the schedule. Never did get a satisfactory explaination as to why we had the fifth hardest schedule in the NFL. Still, no back to back winners this time.
Scott
November 16th, 2009
7:28 am
Ryan have been pressured to win games by the media in his early career so much so that he is forcing a lot of balls down field ,we didn’t see this from Ryan in is first year in the NFL .All of the falcons coaches are at fault for losing these games on the road . The defense is just terrible and the offense is not consistent .Coach Smith allow his emotion to dictate the way he manage the game etc. etc. etc.
Uh Oh
November 16th, 2009
7:30 am
This Matt Ryan thing is getting to be a real issue. I agree that it is not time to push the panic button but here is the elephant in the room. Matt Ryan is NOT a playmaker!!! And when an average QB makes mistakes…the team can’t recover. Favre, Rothlesburger, Manning, Brees can make mistakes and come back with great plays to pick their teams up. Matt Ryan, at least so far, is not that guy. Agree or disagree?
MiltonDawg
November 16th, 2009
7:31 am
If Turner is out for awhile, anyone know when Norwood is coming back?? Ryan looks simply scared back there in the pocket. If he a DT even breathes on him, he folds. He needs a confidence booster ASAP!!
greg
November 16th, 2009
7:32 am
Give the kid a break. He can’t be Tom Brady or Payton Manning in year two. That is just not realistic. Falcons 8 and 8 and no playoffs. Maybe 7 and 9.
Uh Oh
November 16th, 2009
7:34 am
Greg…I agree but the difference is arm strength. They have it and Ryan does not. Can that be improved upon? I don’t know.
JeanE
November 16th, 2009
7:45 am
I’ve defended Ryan for the last couple of games, no more. This was all on him. And maybe Jason Elam. And the defense who couldn’t stop Carolina’s run game. Kudos to Michael Turner, Jason Snelling and Michael Koenen who all had great games. Ryan looks lost out there. Even the game announcers were saying he got Happy Feet pretty quickly. That makes me lose alot of respect for our QB, he hasn’t been hit that much and that badly, stand in there and throw the ball! But he looks more and more like he’s got Jim Everett Syndrome which is deadly. I can’t even blame that sub for Sam Baker, Svitek, he wasn’t that bad. I guess Aaron Stecker will be getting a call, probably got one yesterday during the game. Buy Troy Bergeron, Finn will be back soon, don’t need ya. We need Jerious back, stat. I am really starting to see an 8-8 team, no winning season again. I don’t expect us to beat a rested, ticked off Giants team next week. We are not a come from behind team, if we don’t start off and keep going quickly, we disintegrate. Yikes.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
November 16th, 2009
7:59 am
OH NO! I’ve got happy feet!
Jim in Augusta
November 16th, 2009
8:00 am
The hits have taken their toll on Ryan; he clearly is nervous back there now. Whether he is tough enough to play in the NFL over an extended period is yet to be seen, but it is no coincidence that his quality of play has gone down after he started getting sacked and hit hard a few times. The hits may be affecting his concentration, and if so, he will toughen up or be a flash in the pan soon.
CTim
November 16th, 2009
8:00 am
The Giants game just became a MUST WIN. If the Falcons lose to NY, with Philly and N.O. coming up, they’re done. That was the worst coached and called game of the M. Smith era. M. Ryan is obviously in the midst of the sophomore slump, because as R. White said, teams have over a year of tape to review. How do you get a slumping QB, especially a young one, out of a slump? The same way Carolina got Delhomme out of his slump. De-emphasize the pass, over emphasize the run. Everything M. Ryan throws is high, and it’s killing us. So only throw short stuff over the middle, and push all deep balls to the sidelines, so that if the intended receiver doesn’t catch it, at least it won’t be picked. The Falcons have one game to figure it out, otherwise the streak of non-back to back winning and playoff seasons continues.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
November 16th, 2009
8:02 am
Agree alot lies at the feet of Elam, I agree to sign Coutu but Larry Johnson, I don’t think so. He is the J R Rider of football.
Falcons: Ryan may have some limitations | Atlanta Falcons with D. Orlando Ledbetter
November 16th, 2009
8:07 am
[...] 3. Where in the heck is John Abraham? With teams knowing that at least one receiver (usually the one guarded by the left cornerback) is going to be open, they are running their “quick game” stuff against the Falcons. Slants and quick outs to get the ball out fast. Rarely did Jake Delhomme take a seven-step drop and drive the ball up-field. So Abraham and the rest of the defensive line don’t have enough time to get to the quarterback like they did in the first half against Washington when they had five sacks. But still Abraham only has 3.5 sacks. I’m inclined to concur with Jeff Schultz that the 16-plus sack Abraham from 2008 has been abducted by aliens. [...]
jd
November 16th, 2009
8:10 am
We need a NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR.
Even when we were winning, the play calling didn’t make a lot of sense.
Also, some new defensive backs.
Frank Beamer
November 16th, 2009
8:13 am
The bottom line is Vick lied, he broke the law and is a 2 bit felon.
Sue
November 16th, 2009
8:16 am
Ever since Matty Ice got the beat down from the Cowboys, he’s not been the same. He’s all skittish back there. He was protected fairly well this week, and still, he looks really uncomfortable in the pocket. Matty Ice is now Matty frozen.
Mountain Man
November 16th, 2009
8:19 am
Would somebody keep A. Blank off the field until the game is over… (unless he is willing to suit up and kick field goals).
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
8:25 am
Vick Supporter: Do you not think it is obvious that with your repeated entries and Ryan bashing that all you bring to the table in support of Vick is just a bunch Blog BS. If you were so strong in your support of Vick you would not feel the need to do anymore than state your Vick promotion and move on. Be a man?? Is that all you got? Give us some accurate stats about the premise you wish to lay down, a basis on which reasoning proceeds. Here is a correct and accurate synopsis of what Vick was during his tenure with the Falcons: A gifted athlete with exceptional running skills, a dangerous long ball passer. Unfortunately that is as good as it gets. A career 75 QB rating, he could never master touch on passes shorter than 20 yards, nor did he have much intelligence. He was never a field general or a team leader. His father was quoted in the media that Vick was fighting dogs as early as 2001, in 2004 his “friends” were arrested for distirbuting marijuana driving a truck registered in Vick’s name, also in 2004 his “friends” stole items as they passed thru Hartsfield security, in 2005 he distributed herpes to his sex partners and was Ron Mexico, in 2006 he flipped off fans, in 2007 he was found in possesion of a water bottle with a hidden compartment at the Miami airport, also in 2007 Vick missed a scheduled appearance in front of Congress to lobby for funding for after school programs and was also a no show at a breakfast the next morning to honor him for his foundation’s work with after-school projects, in 2007 a drug investigation led to the discovery of his dog fighting enterprise, then he lied about his involvement to “everyone”. And this will further present evidence that his intelligence is in question: While free on bond he tested positive for drug use. I am all for Vick getting his life together, he did his time, but something tells me the day we are blogging about Vick getting arrested again you will be a no show.
georgiadawgg
November 16th, 2009
8:27 am
LOOKS LIKE SNOW WHITE(MIKE SMITH)AND HIS ELEVEN DWARFS DID IT AGAIN.MATTY ICE COULDN’T CARRY TOM BRADYS JOCK STRAP.GIANTS WILL WIN NEXT WEEK,HANDS DOWN.WONDER BOY HAS LOST HIS SILVER SLIPPER.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
8:36 am
Greg @ 7:32
Last year he was labled the best rookie QB ever…. Yeah he is not Brady or Manning, But Neither is her Big Ben who went started 13-0 in his rookie year and won the Super Bowl in year 2!!! BTW Brady won it all in year two as well….
Shane
November 16th, 2009
8:38 am
Oh god…its the mans 2nd year…Peyton didnt do to well his first few seasons either. Our defense needs to tighten up!
Eric
November 16th, 2009
8:38 am
Vick is old news….bad news. No point in even bringing up his name. Matt is a class act and he’s our future. He’ll get better. Falcons fans will support him. The rest of you will throw him under the bus every time he makes a mistake.
Chris Broe
November 16th, 2009
8:41 am
Falcons are going to make the playoffs. They will win handily against the Giants. Don’t panic, Atlanta.
Fourth and two from your own 28. PUNT! Supreme Folly. No reason exists for the Patriots to go for it. However, the consequence of the loss will steel the patriot’s resolve, and they should still go….all…the….way.
I like the Patriots. I root for the Colts, but only because of Peyton. He’s my hero. The Colts just don’t have the running game, or the defensive depth to beat the Patriots again. (or the coach).
Bad call epidemic worse than the swine flu in football and baseball this year. The Colts/Patriots game should have been a blow out for Brady. You can’t beat the refs.
The Patriot’s loss proves that ultimately it’s the coach who wins or loses.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
8:43 am
The Falcon Fans have to own this…. last year the Falcon played the easiest schedule by percentage of any team in teh last 30 years!!! The got fat on all of the sacraficial lambs in the league, and this year they are not able to cut the mustard. Falcons fans jumped on the Matt Ryan express and and the noe the train has jumped the tracks… as my dad used to say, you asked for it, you got it… warts and all!
F-105 Thunderchief
November 16th, 2009
8:47 am
In three weeks the Falcons are going to be 6-6 at best and 5-7 would not surprise me. So, they will need to go 4-0 against the Saints, Jets, Bills and Bucs to avoid the curse. Methinks the curse continues.
D-DawgDavis
November 16th, 2009
8:48 am
Wow, how quickly everyone turns on the Chosen One. Stats and excuses cannot save this season. Let’s face it, the questions we had coming into this season are back and now we are faced with the original goal of attaining back to back winning season.
I totally agree that yesterday’s loss was on the QB and coaching. We also lost Turner early on who was on pace to bring us the victory. So, now the questions begin:
1. Ryan is clearly in the Sophomore slump. Musgrave and Mularkey, help him out! Can he finish strong?
2. Is there a missing person report out on Abe’s?
3. What the heck is wrong with Elam? Koenen start practicing FG and PATs.
All is not lost Falcons fans, our lofty dreams and expectations have been brought back to reality. We were spoiled last season and parts of this season. TD and crew have a lot to work on in the offseason.
Dawg '85
November 16th, 2009
8:52 am
Ricky… well said about The Felon. I rarely take the time to read these blogs because of all the idiots like Vick Jockstrap… errr… Supporter. The book on Vick as a Falcon slammed shut simultaneously with the door to his prison cell. If someone wants to support MV, then go do it on the blog of whatever team he is OR ISN’T playing for… not here.
Big Ray
November 16th, 2009
8:52 am
JSS ,
You’re on point, my man!
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
8:54 am
Remember how the announcers kept saying ” The Falcons receivers should be open because they are running the ball so well”. They were not open because the D knew that they did not have to worry about the long ball. They played the run and the short pass. They knew that with Ryan’s arm, the long ball could be stopped one on one.
So easy to beat the Falcons. Just make Matty Ice (LOL) beat you with the long ball.
LMFAO.
PS: I counted 3 times that MV7 was mentioned by Vick Haters before any Vick Lovers even brought his name up.
Its hilarious. Criticize Ryan = Racist Black person.
LMFAO at you rednecks.
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
8:55 am
Folks, let’s face it, there are so many areas to blame for the loss to Carolina, one we should have been able to win. The defense didn’t show in the first half, thus a 21-10 halftime deficit. Poor coaching and play calling, Elam’s nasty look @ Koenen for Koenen missing that field goal, Ryan having a poor game, plenty of blame to hand out all around. But how bout those special teams…..a bright spot on the otherwise debacle of the team. None of us know the pressure Matt Ryan is putting on himself to excel and win, thus some happy feet and errant passes. He’s got the skill set and is learning, he’ll be one of the best. Shake it off Birds, let’s go kick some Giant butt…………!!!
Scott Case
November 16th, 2009
9:01 am
Jason Elam needs to be cut – you HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHIP SHOTS WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE!
arthur house
November 16th, 2009
9:12 am
We did better last year than expected. No major injuries. This year we lost our first rounder for the year, the cornerback we had picked up and whos the best we had for the year, we lost Douglsa for the year, norwood has been out several games, Turner gets injured, BF misses game. We are not a deep team.
Dawg '85
November 16th, 2009
9:13 am
Everyone just calm down! Sure Ryan is having some problems in his 2nd yr., and that is to be expected. To give up Ryan at this point is sheer lunacy… I’ll wait while the idiots look that up.
After losing Turner the entire O gameplan was at a disadvantage… most NFL teams don’t fare well without their top 2 RB. Carolina is better than their early record, and the Falcon’s schedule is brutal,especially facing so many teams after their bye week.
Yes, a winning season will be tough, but if you don’t think this organization is headed in the right direction then you are ignorant at best.
Dimitroff is doing an excellent job, and our coaching STAFF is verywell-respected by NFL insiders, who, I’d venture to guess, know a bit more football than bloggers.
We’ve had a lot of injuries at key positions… that may be the difference between making/missing the playoffs.
I’m more concerned about the under-performance of seasoned veterans like Abraham and Elam than the expected struggles of a 2nd yr. QB.
Give Dimitroff another draft and FA signings, get people healthy, and next year could be huge.
F-105 Thunderchief
November 16th, 2009
9:18 am
With injuries, much-needed turnover on the D and a much tougher schedule, a backslide, record-wise makes sense. I just want to be one game over .500 to break that darn curse. Think it’s a longshot, though. 8-8 or 7-9 are looking more probable.
atl~fan
November 16th, 2009
9:18 am
Guys:
Jeff, you did what a lot of sports media guys in Atlanta don’t do, fairly criticize “Matty Ice”. I sat here in Atlanta over the off season and heard him crowned king of all he surveys here in Atlanta-and now he is stinking the joint up. He is paid more than Tom Brady, Payton Manning and host of other top tier QBs in this league and it’s only fair to hold his feet to the fire. For far too long we have sat here in this market looking for back to back winning seasons. When you pay a guy as much money as you are paying him its expected for him to produce and when he doesn’t you need to tell him. Not a Mat Ryan hater, just a fan of FALCONS… So please-lets continue to hold our “superstars” accountable.
jj
November 16th, 2009
9:21 am
Anybody who thinks Vick Supporter’s vile isn’t racially driven is out of their minds. I started out as a Vick fan like every other Falcon fan I knew. He electrified this city for a short time. Problem is, the league finally figured him out. Stay home on the edges, play two safeties deep, send pressure up the middle, and make him throw accurately with people in his face. He had a horrible time standing in the pocket and going through his reads without trying to take off. Bottom line, the man was terribly inaccurate on anything inside of 25 yards. This caused many 3-and-outs and interceptions.
I truly believe that most of the racist points of view came from those who would forgive his poor plsy, blaming it on everything else (notice the same receivers catch the ball now since the QB doesn’t try to gun it through them every time). Living in the south, some were so enamored at seeing a QB that looked like them (how many older people voted for the first times in their lives in 2008 on the same principle?) that they would look past all his ills. I, for now, am a Matt Ryan supporter. He is young and has much to learn, but most experts see a potential franchise player in him. Should the rest of this season and next look more like the last few games vs. the ten or so that preceded them, I absolutely reserve the right to change my stance- just like I did on Vick. How is that for “fair and balanced”?
Ron Roberts
November 16th, 2009
9:24 am
Yeah those two throws were bad, and shouldn’t have been made to begin with; my question is, who’s to blame? Mike Mularkey for sending the 4th quarter play down when we had FOUR MINUTES of clock to burn in the PROCESS of scoring to take the lead (and win the game) or Ryan for making the throw? In the NFL, so many passes are about timing, so folks may have gone where they needed to go, or just short of it, etc. etc., it’s often difficult to know WHO is to blame for an INT when we all know the QB’s stats are what reflects it.
I SERIOUSLY question why we were going for a 25-yard pass play from just inisde the 50 with nearly 4 minutes of clock left in a tightly-fought game. I realize we didn’t have Turner, and that we were down, essentially to one RB in Jason Snelling, but we had Ovie to carry the rock if we needed to spell Jason, and the running game was STILL effective. Why did we go for broke when we had a running game and have (yesterday an under-utlizied) Tony Gonzalez to dink and dunk to while burning up some clock?
And when the hell are we going to admit that Jason Elam is ineffective? This is absurd.
steve
November 16th, 2009
9:27 am
I cannot believe you doom-and-gloomer’s. Ryan is 2nd year QB. He is a good QB and will get better with time. The offensive line sucks. Give him the kind of protection Tom Brady gets and he won’t be rushed to make bad throws.
ctfalconsfan
November 16th, 2009
9:28 am
We are NOT a good football team!! I thought the Defense played OK considering we have nothing to work with. Our offense needs to be much stronger as we have much more talent on the O side of the team than the D side. And Matt Ryan should hae been benched! He almost had 3 INT’s ( 1 at the goal line). When he drops back to pass it reminds me of MV7, you have no idea what is going to happen.
- Elam needs to be cut TODAY!!
al tennis
November 16th, 2009
9:29 am
Ryan throws to many balls out of bounds sometimes he could simply run the ball and pick up yardage. Hopefully he is not scared.
lastly to call a long pass at that juncture,was STUPID.
ctfalconsfan
November 16th, 2009
9:30 am
Just sign Morten for the 3rd or 4th time, at least he can make a chip shot!
Lash La Rue
November 16th, 2009
9:41 am
Get a Field Goal kicker….asp !
Tu87
November 16th, 2009
9:46 am
Things have just not broken for the Falcons the way they did last year. The ending of the Bears game last year was a perfect synopsis for the Falcons season. Everything pretty much went their way. Now you have the same kicker missing makeable field goals, passes in the red zone getting tipped and intercepted. Not much going their way this year. But if you look at the schedule every game is winable. Obviously they won’t win every game, but 9-7 is doable, even 10-6.
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
9:48 am
lmfao: I am certain that in this instance the “F” stands for fat. Obviously it suits you to make up your own “facts” to make your pointless point. You actually listen to the announcers??? No wonder you are confused. Did you not know that Ryan can actually throw further than the wildcat specialist sitting on the bench in Philly…..? So can McNabb. You inaccurately count all the way up to 3 and then make up a fairy tale……?? Desperation is ugly on you. By the way, Vick’s QB rating is 42.4, he has 2 whole completions, 1 for a yard, 1 for 5 yards…..wow, that is really downfield…..!! And his average per carry on rushing is an astounding 2.3 yards. GO VICK!! Your nickname certainly fits you and your rotund corpulence.
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
9:48 am
JJ: You truly are an idiot. The beginning of your post indicates that you are going to explain WHY Vick Supporter is a raxist for criticizing Ryan.
Your words: “Anybody who thinks Vick Supporter’s vile isn’t racially driven is out of their minds”
You then meander to the subject of how to stop Mike Vick. You never explain your theory on racism.
You then go on to imply that any “older” voter who voted the first time for Obama is “racist”, and voted for Obama because he “looks like them”?
I am totally dumbfounded, nay, flabbergasted by your complete and utter ignorance.
But keep trying to blog; it is at least entertaining.
Bushwacker
November 16th, 2009
9:53 am
Ryan got them in position to kick the go ahead field goal then let the defense continue to shut them down like they did for most of the 2nd half!
I don’t even blame the kicker.
THIS ONE IS ON THE COACH for that stupid challenge.
In that situation you line up and kick the chip shot asap, NEVER LET HE KICKER HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
Kick the goal, get the lead, let the defense stop them one more time then we run the clock out and we are 6-3.
Sorry but this one is on the coach!!!
ryan2atl
November 16th, 2009
9:53 am
I think you people should chill a little. Falcons schedule much tougher this year and they’ve had injuries. Ryan’s a second year QB, did you expect MVP and SB? You don’t turn over a morbid franchise in 2 years. If you go 9-7 or 8-8 the season’s a success considering where you thought you’d be two years ago. If Ryan were lazy and didn’t care thats one thing but no one has ever said that. Take a look at some seasoned QB’s stats. Say D. Brees. 2nd yr.= QB rating of 76.9, 17td/16int, 3rd yr.=QB rating of 67.5, 11td/15/int —-do you like him now?? Ryan will figure it out because he has the work ethic and desire necessary to do so. Relax and enjoy watching your team evolve into a yearly contender which wasn’t even a remote thought 3 years ago.
Amazed
November 16th, 2009
9:54 am
Matt Ryan, better pray that Turner comes back next week because without Turner we see whose the real Matt Ryan. Vick may have had his faults but he was able to make something happen with his legs. It’s been several times that Vick actually beat the Panther’s by himself with his legs…. Matt Ryan is nothing more than a pocket passer that will only make it as a play action passer in this league. Without a running game and Matt Ryan as QB Atlanta will be a the very best a .500 team.
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
9:55 am
RICKY:
Perhaps you should listen to the announcers or at least watch the game… For your info, Koenan did not try to kick the field goal;
and I quote YOU:
“Elam’s nasty look @ Koenen for Koenen missing that field goal”.
So, until you can get the action right, as in, who did what; I suggest you STFU.. The F does not stand for fat…..LMFAO at an idiot.
David
November 16th, 2009
9:55 am
People: It’s been two years. Peyton Manning threw two picks last night, and he’s the best quarterback in football. Sometimes a defense plays you well. Matt Ryan hasn’t played in many games… look up Joe Flacco’s numbers, and see what he’s done in some of Baltimore’s losses. Look at Mark Sanchez. There’s a learning curve. No reason to jump off a bridge because of a few games that have him in a slump.
Bill from Jax
November 16th, 2009
10:01 am
I don’t understand the call. With over 3 minutes to go in the game and down by 2 why not just try to move to ball into field goal range, why go for the home run. Even though Elam missed the field goal earlier, if you look at the replays you could see that his timing was thrown off because of the snapper and holder, giving him a shot to win the game would be better than hitting the long strike and giving the ball back to the Panthers. Bad call, bad throw (not pass). This could even be a bigger loss if Turner is not available for some time.
ERich42
November 16th, 2009
10:08 am
Looks like ole Matty Ice is about to melt. Face it people the true Matt Ryan has shown up but no reason to be surprise. This is who he was in college but you people were in such a rush to get rid of Vick and put him out of misery you overlooked the obvious, which is Matt Ryan is average at best and we are stuck with him for the next 5 years.
ERich42
November 16th, 2009
10:11 am
David the difference is that Matt Ryan was made a superstar before he proved himself. Last year he got all the praise when it should have went to Michael Turner. The facts are Ryan has been the reason we have lost more than he has been the reason we won. The blue eyed smart always prepared QB who study’s hard needs to understand that you need skills to go along with preparation…
ERich42
November 16th, 2009
10:14 am
ryan2atl you are the same dude that could catch your wife in bed with another man and tell your self it wasn’t her. Face ithe facts he has been terrible for the last 5 weeks.
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
10:14 am
lmfao:
That was the point moron, Elam was trying to blame Koenen for the miss.
You’re not to bright my challenged friend.
Falcon57
November 16th, 2009
10:18 am
I have said for the last couple of weeks that the problem with Matt Ryan comes from a truely hard blow he took in the Dallas game. He was hit square in the chest by a bull rushing tackle, almost giving him whiplash and then buried on his back. He has not been the same since. He’s playing scared and hurrying his throws, throwing off balance and ducking his head. Matty, if you’re reading this you have to realize all quarterbacks take hard hits, you’re paid plenty for the discomfort. But you have to get your ‘head’ back in the game and stop playing scared. The team needs you.
Bubba's Tanning Salon
November 16th, 2009
10:18 am
I thought Matt Ryan had won me over, but I must’ve been sniffing glue! He looked horrible yesterday, and last game, its gonna take alot to get me back to sniffing a sharpie otherwise we are slowly going down hill this season!
Bubba's Tanning Salon
November 16th, 2009
10:19 am
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Webster
November 16th, 2009
10:21 am
Ricky… Your not too bright yourself, ahaaha.. “Your not to bright my challenged friend!” Not TOO bright, not “to bright”, did you take grammar in school my man?
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
10:30 am
No, the point is that you made a dumb-azz mistake and are trying to make up for it. I can give further examples of your ignorance.
Once again I quote you: “Did you not know that Ryan can actually throw further than the wildcat specialist sitting on the bench in Philly…..?
No one in their right mind thinks that Ryan can throw further or harder than MV7. Even the most blind kool-aid drinking Ryan apologist knows that arm strength is not Ms. Ryans forte.
Secondly, you are making my point about fanatical Vick haters. Why are you even comparing Vick’s arm strength to Ryans? Vick is gone. I did not speak of Vick’s competance or incompetance. All I said in reference to Vick was that he was brought up on this blog first and foremost by Vick Haters, not Vick Lovers. Then, off you go, comparing their arm strength and quoting irrelevant Vick statistics.
Can’t your quarterback stand on his own without comparing him to an x-quarterback?
No, he obviosly cannot. Game, set, match.
LMFAO.
Maestro
November 16th, 2009
10:31 am
Bad call, and an even worse throw. Less than 4 minutes left and you’re on the 50.It is time to kill clock and move into FG range. We had a chance to steal one the road even after losing our best player in the process. This game will come back to haunt the falcons at the end of the year: guaranteed. Ryan’s lack or accuracy is not the only cause for concern. When was the last time he looked the defense off? It’s like watching MV7 all over again looking for Crumpler running the seam route and an one else. Smitty, we don’t need a “players coach”. The last one we had got on national radio and said he wished he was coaching another team. Take the players to task for their ineptitude. “Our QB sucked. He got such happy feet I thought he was busting a river dance move.” “Our kicker choked big time on us today,if he doesn’t get his act together I’m gonna run his a$$ outa town!!” You can do it Smitty. Start practicing on the water and equipment guys till you get the hang of it.
John House
November 16th, 2009
10:34 am
If a coach called for the downfield pass with 3:58 left then he should have his head examined and certainly the head coach should have a conference with him. A weekend warrior in his easy chair at home knows better than call that play. Run down the clock and kick the field goal. Shades of “Bart”. Matt is getting ‘happy feet’ and thus the high throws.
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
10:35 am
The Falcons had a very good 2008 season with many key players having a great year. Matt Ryan had a 87.7 QB rating in his first year in the NFL. You don’t get that by not playing well. Peyton Manning’s 2008 QB rating was 95.0. And just to compare, Super Bowl winner Pittsburgh’s Ben Rothlisberger had an 80.1 last year. Matt Ryan is not going to take us to the promised land all by himself. Turner and Ryan each helped each other have a good year with defenses having to play against both the run and the pass. I just don’t recall Turner getting bashed in the blogs as hard as Matt Ryan when Turner was not motoring well earlier this season. And if you want to bash Ryan think about our chances with either Redman or Wilson taking the snaps……….omg I just had a stroke………..!!!!
Gerald
November 16th, 2009
10:37 am
Falcons just re-group and go to N Y and play hard forget last sunday you still Atlanta an Ga. Team(GO FALCONS)
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
10:43 am
Webster:
Is that as good as you’ve got…………??? Jeez…………….
lmfao:
Only honest thing you have said, x-quarterback is sooooo correct………!!!!
Panther_fan
November 16th, 2009
10:45 am
HAHAHAHAHA!
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
10:46 am
RICKY:
Sorry. I didn’t mean to give you a stroke. I want you to get out of that trailor park and seek medical attention right away.
Ricky
November 16th, 2009
10:50 am
lmfao
yeah, you stroked me, just last night………..night sweetie!!!
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
10:52 am
LMFAO – Do you even realize what you just said???????
LMFAO
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
10:55 am
Ricky- I will defend your right to be gay, but I will not participate in your fantasies.
Keith Mercer
November 16th, 2009
11:00 am
Something must be done. The offense should score more points and the defense should allow fewere points to be scored, then the Falcons will win.
A Rod
November 16th, 2009
11:00 am
It’s over. losses to the giants, saints and eagles/jets will prevent the 2 winning seasons in a row curse from being lifted. Ryan has an average arm (at best) and in the nfl they will expose your weaknesses. he cant throw deep so they play the run and short passes
What the hell
November 16th, 2009
11:06 am
Matt is a scrubb. Period. With out Turner and Norwood youll see that he has no talent. Its back to oblivion for the Fal cons.
Does anybody have Vicks Phone number?
Kevin Johnson
November 16th, 2009
11:07 am
I will keep my comments short and sweet! I know everyone likes to compare Matt Ryan with Peyton Manning when the Falcons are (4-1) and then they lose 3 of 4 and now what are we going to do.
Well I will keep the comaprisons going and remind you that over the first five seasons Manning threw 100 interceptions, 20 a year. We have to remember the Falcons have also had a few injuries this year as well that have hurt, the top pick is out for the year, there corner back is out for the year, there is a significant drop off in talent after gonzo, white, and turner. I think the Falcons showed go deep early in the game like they did last year. Think about Ryans first career completion. I think stretch the defense early. Early in the year Turner struggled as well. Now he is coming around, hopefully recovers from injury. The Falcons have a tough schedule coming up. In addition when the Falcons have played their opponents out of the 9 games, 6 of them had winning records, two of the three that didn’t were carolina. And lets face it Carolina is a good ball club. Two dynamic running backs two good receivers. Im not giving up on Ryan yet, not so fast. He’s a smart QB with a great work ethic, is team believes in him, and they will turn it around. ALso first year as QB for Manning team went 3-13, three years it look like he had things turned around and went 10-6 , in year four he went 6-10. A QB takes a little time, just a little lets give it to him!!! I know ATL fans are patient and want it now, I lived in ATL 28 years the ARMY took me to El Paso, and its hard out here, just recently went to Dallas game in my Matt Ryan jersey !!! Go FALCONS!!!!
A Rod
November 16th, 2009
11:10 am
hell I’d take Kolb over Ryan. Cheaper and a bigger arm. But seriously cut Elam.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
11:13 am
Open Mind….
November 16th, 2009
8:36 am
Greg @ 7:32
Last year he was labled the best rookie QB ever…. Yeah he is not Brady or Manning, But Neither is her Big Ben who went started 13-0 in his rookie year and won the Super Bowl in year 2!!! BTW Brady won it all in year two as well….
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Ryan wasn’t simply “labeled” the best rookie. His stats were arguably the best ever as a rookie.
Brady and Big Ben has MUCH, MUCH better teams around them also.
What!
November 16th, 2009
11:13 am
Ever since Gonzo told Matt he likes the ball thrown to him high, Matt has been throwing that way to eveyone. Gonzo……has he helped or hurt this team. That’s what we all need to look into. To be honest, I don’t know. Seems like the QB and coaching staff are in a sophmore slump.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:15 am
Would somebody keep A. Blank off the field until the game is over… (unless he is willing to suit up and kick field goals).
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are you kidding me? that’s the main reason he bought the team and hires newbies. That’s his time to come down and prance for the city.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:20 am
You people on here crack me up! Jumping off the bandwagon so quickly. Jesus people.
It doesn’t take an idiot to see that the injuries are just absolutely killing the Falcons.
1. Harry Douglas is gone so we have Michael “I can’t catch a short pass” Jenkins to rely on
2. Peria Jerry gone, so now we have a free agent to cover up what Jerry was doing excellently
3. Norwood gone, there goes our screen pass and pass out of the flat
4. Williams is gone, now we got no corner support what so ever
5. Turner is now out, we only have one freaking running back
6. Finneran is gone so there goes our third down short pass catcher
Do you even know how bad this hurts a football team? God in the NFL it’s always about the QB when a team loses, that’s why I despise the NFL sometimes. Peyton Manning threw 2 INT’s last night, but you know what, as the Falcon’s team members said and Mike Smith, the rest of the team didn’t do their part. The defense could stop anybody and good TEAMS can. Ryan can’t do it on his own and that does not make or break a QB in my opinion. A QB is not going to win a superbowl. A team will win the superbowl.
Between the injuries to offense and defense, the defense being all but depleted and short tiny corners, and now we got one running back, it ain’t gonna happen this year. But it’s not to say that Ryan is completely to blame for this one. Jeff Schultz, I think you have written a knee jerk response to the loss without thinking correctly. What it’s Ryan’s fault that the defense gave up 28 points to Carolina. The Colts defense overcame Manning’s mistakes, and the Falcon’s didn’t have the parts in place to do the same. That’s what makes a good team. “The team goes when the offense goes” isn’t a good philosophy and it will not win championships. The offense gave the defense a chance in my opinion this game, because the defense didn’t come to play again, but they aren’t entirely to blame because hell any talent they had on defense is on the sideline in crutches. Pure, plain, and simple.
GO FALCONS!
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:23 am
“The Patriot’s loss proves that ultimately it’s the coach who wins or loses.”
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It proves bellicheat is garbage without his tapes.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:26 am
Turner was not hurt he is just tired of doing all the work and watching matt ryan throw 3 yard touchdown passes so he checked himself out to make a point.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
11:28 am
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:20 am
Be honest…. After some of the losses in teh Vick / Mora era, were you defending #7 that strongly? There is some validity to what you posted, but Last year everything went right for the Falcons and Ryan was given all of the credit…This year they beat San Fran without Frank Gore, and excuses were not accepted by SF fans… Injuries are a part of the game, but If Ryan wants to be one of the greats, he has to find a way to win a game when all is not well…
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
11:31 am
Ryan’s second pick was as much Jenkins’ fault as it was his. Jenkins did not play the ball correctly. I’ve seen the video over and over and Jenkins could have at least saved the interception.
Should Ryan have passed it to Jenkins in that situation? NO. He should have known Jenkins wouldn’t climb the ladder. Ryan put that ball in a place that if the receiver had ran under it…there would be no pick. Had the receiver jump just 12 inches off the ground (any NFL receiver can do it) he would have had a chance at that ball. Jenkins is just TERRIBLE. Ryan should not have trusted him.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:34 am
Dogfighter,
I believe that was as far as Matt Ryan could have thrown that pass since, you know, he was at the three yard line. Use some sense.
Further, who said QB’s have to chuck the ball down the field 50 yards every game to be considered great? Deep balls are a product of a system. The Falcons offense is predicated on more short passes out of the backfield to the talented guys we HAD, like Norwood and Douglas who are quick and can make moves with their feet, as well as Gonzalez who is short pass guy as well.
The only threat on the longer balls is Roddy White, but between double coverage and poor route running and inability to extent the route for when Ryan is pressured it’s getting to be a tough task.
Michael Jenkins you cannot trust for anything, it’s a jump ball for him.
Ryan has had plenty of downfield passing, but it’s not really what the system is predicated on.
Injuries have choked this team and when everyone is back next year, you will all realize that free agents aren’t going to replace top draft choices in the NFL. We went after them for a reason.
Chris Broe
November 16th, 2009
11:39 am
The big news is that Falcon’s coach Mike Smith didn’t get in a scuffle this week! He did give the waterboy the stink eye at halftime, though, and there’s a report that he was rude to a cheerleader in the fourth quarter. Sore loser? Or maybe he’s setting up the flag-waving for next week’s game. (Genius).
Irish-Heel
November 16th, 2009
11:40 am
New nickname Matty Melt. GO PANTHERS
Don Gill
November 16th, 2009
11:40 am
Give Ryan a break. He’s doing fine. In the immortal words of Norm Van Brocklin as uttered to Fran Tarkington, “You’re gonna have bad games. Maybe even a bad year.” As was pointed out The Mannings didn’t start all that great.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:40 am
Open mind,
I am not even going there. This is a new team, Vick is gone. If Vick was here I would defend him, of course I would. Jim Mora was stupid for building a team around a guy who was never going to be great. Vick would have never gotten a superbowl. It was set up for disaster. That’s why I said a QB will never win a super bowl on his own. Vick couldn’t and the people on here bashing on Ryan are hypocrites because Vick was the team in Atlanta and he couldn’t do it. The team was built around him. “The team went if Vick went” in Jeff Schultz’s rationale. Sorry but it’s true. Vick couldn’t play in a system like this one, because it involves thinking and patience and a short passing ability which Vick definitely did not have the touch for. He just rockets everything which is why arm strength isn’t the only thing.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
11:43 am
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:20 am
Great post. This is a team game.
Ryan didn’t get “all the credit” for last year.
Lots of people gave Turner and Smith a lot of credit too.
The pub we got lost year and that helped Ryan win rookie of the year…that pub was extra compelling because of where the Falcons were the year before. It was a phenomenal turn around.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:46 am
Go Tech610
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“injuries have choked this team and when everyone is back next year, you will all realize that free agents aren’t going to replace top draft choices in the NFL. We went after them for a reason.”
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this is what losing franchises say every year. the good teams plug players in and coach them up.
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I am glad my previous post elicited a dissertation from you.
C Moody
November 16th, 2009
11:47 am
It is What is!!!
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:51 am
Jimmy,
it’s true. To blame losses on Ryan completely is foolish. It is very obvious that injuries, lack of defense, and really, really stupid play calling are also factors. It looked to me that the 30 yard pass yesterday was a play call not so much a decision by Ryan.
Here’s my thing on that. Why pass at all on first down why even call the play? Your on the 50, after a great punt return, 3 minutes left in the game, run the ball, kill the clock, kick a field goal, win. Right? I can understand a pass on say a 3rd and 5 if the run game was unsuccessful. Also, why dial up a post route? if any thing do a hook route, or slide Snelling into the flat and set up a screen. I just didn’t get the play call. Ryan’s pass also wasn’t a bad pass. Jenkins jumped for it way too soon. He could have gotten two more steps and made the catch.
The Falcons are just not playing as a team and that is the factor, but they really can’t do much about it because like I said the real talent is sidelined and in crutches.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
11:52 am
Roark:
Abraham has lost a step, it seems.
He is held on just about every play…but that is beside the point.
He used to escape holding linemen.
This is one reason I HATE refs. They call the Falcons for drive ending holding plays but do not consistently call holding against Abraham.
We all need to realize that this team has a lot of holes to fill. Unless we do it through free agency and trades, we are years away from being a consistent playoff team.
Ryan is not the problem. O Line, D Line, Receivers, linebackers, and DB’s are really our problems.
Oh, let us not forget that we need a kicker too.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:54 am
Dogfighter,
I am sorry, but if you lose a first round draft pick, a very good receiver, running back, those are skill positions. It’s hard to just coach them up in mid-season without expect some drop off. That’s all the Falcons’ are dealing with right now is just the drop off in the talent. They are still close in these games. They’ll hopefully come around to start winning again.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:54 am
“I believe that was as far as Matt Ryan could have thrown that pass since, you know, he was at the three yard line. Use some sense.”
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you missed the entire purpose of my post. It’s not the length of the scoring pass that is the issue.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:55 am
Jimmy,
Once again the entire team is out of sync and that is the problem. The team couldn’t even get a field goal off in sync yesterday. It’s just a culmination of people on separate pages and the coaches need to fix it.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
11:57 am
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:51 am
I agree about the play call and about Jenkins.
Jenkins stopped running too soon. When he jumped…he barely got off the ground. Obviously, he misplayed the ball.
I thought Ryan’s ball was thrown to split those two recievers. It was an ill advised throw because if the receiver didn’t go up for it, it was going to be an interception.
Jenkins is too unreliable.
Yes, what the Ryan critics fail to mention is that this is a team game.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:59 am
Dogfigher,
If your talking about the playcalling inside the five, I agree with you. I hate watching teams pass the ball in that situation. If you have Turner, then use him there. In my opinion they should be running Turner at least twice inside the 10. But Carolina was being very stingy up the middle yesterday, so I can kind of agree with the pass call there. It was obvious the Panthers were looking to clog the middle on that 4 and 1 on the goal line.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
11:59 am
Dogfighter,
I am sorry, but if you lose a first round draft pick, a very good receiver, running back, those are skill positions. It’s hard to just coach them up in mid-season without expect some drop off. That’s all the Falcons’ are dealing with right now is just the drop off in the talent. They are still close in these games. They’ll hopefully come around to start winning again.
you need to slow down on the meds you are popping. you are really pinning the hopes of a franchise on a rookie
.
———-
a very good receiver
close? ask the pats if they were happy with their close game yesterday?
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:00 pm
GoTech,
Yes, the team is out of sync because of all those injuries.
Elam’s problem, though, is not timing as he seemed to indicate.
He has kicked poorly all year.
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:02 pm
Go Tech61 – well said:
I agree:
“Arthur Blank is stupid for building a team around a guy who is never going to be great. Ryan will never get to a superbowl. It is set up for disaster. That’s why I said a QB will never win a super bowl on his own. Vick couldn’t and the people on here bashing on Vick are hypocrites because Vick was the team in Atlanta and he couldn’t do it by himself. This team is built around Ryan. “The team will go if Ryan goes” in Jeff Schultz’s rationale. Sorry but it’s true. Ryan can’t play in a system like this one, because it involves thinking and patience and an all around passing ability which Ryan definitely does not have the arm strength or talent for. He just floats everything which is why thinking and patience aren’t the only thing. It also takes talent.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
12:02 pm
Jimmy of course it is.
Most people who criticize Ryan on this board are/were Vick fans and he was asked to carry the team so naturally his fans are holding Ryan to that same standard, when in fact it’s a completely different situation.
It doesn’t take a fool to realize the Falcon’s problems are deeper than Ryan, who by the way is a second year and people are expecting the world of him but that’s another issue.
Bill
November 16th, 2009
12:04 pm
I am hesitant to make negative comments about Matt Ryan or the team at this point. Most importantly, what we’re able to see so far this season are areas where the Falcons need to improve. There is a need for another offensive blocking, lineman; a couple of ‘larger’ defensive backs and two or three talented defensive linemen, especially a pass rusher.
What Atlanta did last season is a wash! As to be expected, teams around the league have adjusted to the Falcons and are playing them much better than in 2008. 2009 will be a year to furhter analize the teams weakness and strengths. A time to determine what positions needed to be improved to make the team a Super Bowl contender in 2011!
I will say this about Sunday’s game. It’s the first game in two years that I felt the coaching staff screwed up. Why on the Falcons first two possessions they ran the ball with such great success and then suddenly turned to a passing game when they got into Carolina territory? And why they didn’t control the ball in the final three minutes instead of throwing a long pass that was intercepted?
The coaching staff most likely has these same questions themselves!
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
12:06 pm
And you Goose are an idiot and that too doens’t take a fool to see. If you think the Falcons are building a team around Ryan you are crazy. That’s why they went after Baker in the first round. They went after a hall of fame tight end. They got receivers. They got a D line man. They are trying to pick up corners.
Your an idiot. If they were building a team around Ryan, they would have paid him 135 million dollars and got crap personel, and even worse team mates. Sound familiar?
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
12:07 pm
Bill, why do you think Smith would let Mularkey talk yesterday? The coaching staff screwed up on play calling with 3 minutes left. They went against everything in the hand book, and they paid for it. So now they are trying to do damage control.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:10 pm
I disagree that Vick was asked to carry the team. We had a pretty good running game while Vick was here. We didn’t have a good passing game because Vick couldn’t pass. Vick had a different kind of happy feet. He relied on his scrambling to make plays. When done too often, that creates problems for receivers and blockers. Vick’s running was his gift and he wanted to use it…to the detriment of the team.
I also disagree with those who say Vick took the team to levels it had not been before.
That is just stupid. We went to the Superbowl before we had Vick.
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
12:13 pm
Jimmy,
“I also disagree with those who say Vick took the team to levels it had not been before.
That is just stupid. We went to the Superbowl before we had Vick.”
You hit the nail on the head here. People hold on to Vick’s one play off win, but someone before got us to the big dance.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
12:14 pm
“No reason to jump off a bridge because of a few games that have him in a slump.”
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you say it is a slump and we keep waiting every week for him to overcome this slump yet it is now becoming a habit, which is scary.
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Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:18 pm
And you Go Tech610 are an idiot and that too doens’t take a fool to see. The Falcons ARE building a team around Ryan. You are crazy. That’s why they went after Turner and Gonzalez first. They went after a hall of fame tight end. They got receivers. They did not go after a D line man or corners until after they THOUGHT the offense was squared away. Yep, they were just gonna outscore everybody with Matty Ice (gotta laugh at that).
Your an idiot. They ARE building a team around Ryan, they PAID HIM MORE THAN TOM BRADY. They would have paid him 135 million dollars and got crap personel with the leftovers. Sound familiar?
Kane337
November 16th, 2009
12:18 pm
How bout those Hawks!!!
MaximillionSchaefer
November 16th, 2009
12:20 pm
I am shocked and appauled how Vicks name continues to surface and be mentioned in these blogs. This is supposed to be an article about Matt Ryan and somehow, someway, mysteriously Vicks name keeps creeping up into the conversations. Vick is basically a qb who is in the league to be a gimmick for the Eagles. Vick is used primarily as a DECOY, NON-FACTOR who does nothing more than carry the clipboard for Donavan McNabb and collect his paycheck every pay period. Thats all the heavy lifting that Vick does is CARRYING A CLIPBOARD. Thats all hes been relegated to and suddenly Vicks (Vampire) name enters these blogs and conversations like a bat out of hell. Look if Ryan continues to slide, maybe we’ll contact the Eagles and try to get Vick back. But until then, please keep Vick out of the conversations because he is thousands of miles away from Atlanta and there is a good chance he will never play in the nfl ever again.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:21 pm
Ryan is indeed in a slump. But we can’t judge the duration and severity of the slump because this is a different team playing a much tougher schedule than last year. If we had the same team as last year, with the addition of a couple of line backers and TG, I think Ryan would have a better chance of coming out of this during the season. As it is, it is hard to tell how much of this is Ryan and how much is the better competition and lack of a better O Line and better D.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
12:23 pm
“I also disagree with those who say Vick took the team to levels it had not been before.
That is just stupid. We went to the Superbowl before we had Vick.”
You hit the nail on the head here. People hold on to Vick’s one play off win, but someone before got us to the big dance.
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it all depends on your definition of “level”
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:23 pm
Max,
I wish all talk of Vick would be banned.
Morons criticize Ryan using Vick as the measuring stick.
I know…like I said, they are morons.
That is why Vick is talked about.
I agree, he is gone. I wish Vick Suckers would just crawl back into the hole they crawled out of.
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:24 pm
Max- go have a coke and a smile and stfu.
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:25 pm
Jimmy = ditto.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:26 pm
Dogfighter,
True. Vick did take us to levels we had never been before…lower levels.
We learned there is indeed a level lower than the gutter.
KyleRichards
November 16th, 2009
12:28 pm
Those idiots who continue clammoring for Vick are forgetting that Vick was basically a running back (at the quarterback position). It would be the same if Michael Turner tried to play quarterback for the Falcons. Turner would be out of position if he did that. Vick was simply a running back, or a scat back hoisting throws from the qb position like you would toss bricks into a dumpster or throw mud on a wall. Vick is yesterdays news but people want to go into a time machine and relive the glory years of Vick, hoping that he will miraculously return to the Falcons. Folks you are wasting your precious time.
The Dogfighter Returns
November 16th, 2009
12:29 pm
I am shocked and appauled how Vicks name continues to surface and be mentioned in these blogs.
———–
It appears that you are in the river in Egypt (denial), quoting Jack Nicholson “You can’t handle the truth.”
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:31 pm
Jimmy: Let’s put things in perspective. Yes there is a lower level. Your president Bush took us there. It’s called Iraq.
Kane337
November 16th, 2009
12:34 pm
Good for the Goose, way to mix politics with sports. They don’t mix and you are obviously an idiot.
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:37 pm
Kane337 : It’s all politics. If you don’t know that then you’re the obvious idiot.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:39 pm
Good for the Goose,
My president huh?
Open your window.
You will hear me laughing from the next state.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
12:40 pm
Go Tech610
November 16th, 2009
11:40 am
Lets try this again…. I have no beef with Matt Ryan. I have no “longing” for MV7….My point remains, You guys can blame Jenkins, or Play calling or whatever, but Carolina had him DOUBLE COVERED!!! There was a LB in front of him and the Corner played over the top. The pass was 3 or 4 over teh receivers head ( which is why the DB was able to catch it on the fly. Jenkins would have had to have a 60 inch vertical in order to even tip that pass. Ryan misread the coverage and made a awful throw. The game was on the line after a strong return and he made a choice that cost the Birds the game. This is problem with fans in this town…. Our QB has pissed the bed in the last couple of weeks and folks would rather continue to dump on the old QB than call out the current one. What Vick did is neither here nor there… Ryan is hurting this team now and regardless of how much some people try to push it off on others, that is all his. What wrong with making him earn it????
Good for the Goose
November 16th, 2009
12:41 pm
Good to hear Jimmy. Maybe there is hope for you yet.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:44 pm
Good for the Goose,
Don’t close that window yet.
I’m still laughing.
Call an ambulance…my sides are splitting.
Open Mind…
You need to open your eyes too.
RodneyRichards
November 16th, 2009
12:55 pm
VICKS LEGACY WILL BE THAT HE CAME ALONG PRIMARILY TO BREAK THE RUSHING RECORD FOR QUARTERBACKS. THAT WAS THE ONE AND ONLY THING HE DID IN THE NFL. VICK WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR DOING THAT AND ALSO BEING THE FIRST QB TO WIN IN THE PLAYOFFS AT LAMBEAU FIELD IN GREEN BAY. THESE ARE VICKS HIGHLITS AND LEGACIES AND PROBABLY WILL ALSO BE REMEMBERED FOR SPEARHEADING, FIGHTING AND CHAMPIONING THE MOST COMPELLING DOGFIGHTING RING KNOWN TO MANKING.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
12:55 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
12:44 pm
My eyes are open…And because I am not a rabid fan, I can see clearly whet the issues are. The D did a poor job of stoping the run. Elam missed a chippy, and Turner got hurt. All of those things, and you where down 2 with 4 minutes left and the ball on the 50. He could have taken the dump down pass and gained 6 or 7 yards. He could have scrambled up the middle and gained 3 to 5 yds. Hell, he could have thrown the ball away…. This is the NFL. its the ultimate team game…But at some point, the main guy on a team has to rise up and will his team to a victory. You need examples? Eli did it when the Pats scored with 1:37 left in the SuperBowl. Big Ben did it when the Cardnials took the lead in the Superbowl. I know this was just a regular season game, but when your team needs you to make the play he did not do it, and that is on him….
Tom
November 16th, 2009
1:04 pm
What’s with Ryan and his Happy feet the last few weeks? He’s ran right into sacks and thrown costly interceptions. Plain and simple, if the Falcons are going to make the playoffs he has to play better the rest of the year. He is still a young and his future is bright, but the Happy feet are concerning.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
1:09 pm
Open mind…
Maybe you failed to see the game.
There was enough blame to go around.
Jenkins did not play the ball correctly. Period.
Jenkins didn’t even put himself in position to break up the interception.
The defenders were maybe ten yards apart with Jenkins in between.
Jenkins jumped about six inches off the ground after he misplayed the ball.
Matt Ryan should NEVER have thrown it.
But don’t say it is all on him.
Receivers have to get open.
They have to play the ball.
O Lines need to block.
They couldn’t block a three man rush in this game.
Sad. Definitely not all on Ryan.
This is a team sport.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
1:21 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
1:09 pm
Go back and look at the play…
What you are saying, is that Mike Jenkins did not do enough to cover for the Ryan error. The receiver was bracketed with over and under coverage. The DB over the top was easily 7 yd behind Jenkins. The pass was woefully overthrown. Ryan failed to properly read the defense And he sailed the throw. Try as you may, this pass, and by extension this game is layed at the “Happy” feet on Matt Ryan…
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
1:35 pm
Open mind…
You should change your screen name to “Open mind…Open eyes” because both statements are equally false. Yes, Jenkins was bracketed, but the distance was much less than you say when the ball was intercepted. We’ll agree to disagree on that.
But you can’t say that play cost them the game.
Ryan didn’t miss the field goal that would give them the lead.
Ryan didn’t give up the touchdown that put them nine points down.
Ryan didn’t call for the two point conversion that put them in that position.
This is a team sport.
Ryan doesn’t block for himself.
Our O Line (Baker in particular) does not show very much pass blocking ability.
Ryan has had happy feet. If that doesn’t change, he will be a bust.
But in this case, the loss is not on him alone.
There are poor plays that cost a team a game.
It is just not always black and white as to whose fault it was.
New England coach called a pass on 4th and 2 on their own 28.
Pass was made, catch was made but was short.
Whose fault was that? It involved a coach, QB and receiver. And don’t forget that even defenders get some credit for good plays.
In this game, there was not one single Ryan play that can be called a game loser.
It is hard to pin the loss on him alone.
Ackshun
November 16th, 2009
1:36 pm
I think somewhere along the way this season (maybe in Dallas) Ryan took a serious hit and came face to face with his own mortality.
Since then he has been skittish in the pocket. If you look at the interceptions thrown yesterday they look as though they were cause by poor mechanics. If you don’t set up properly and plant your feet the ball is going to sail on you and in this league you WILL get intercepted. Matt’s lost his composure a bit and is rushing his mechanics. He needs to take the day off and do some intensive film study of the Matt that won the Chicago game last year. And they need to turn the defense loose on him at flowery branch. Lord knows they could use the practice our pass rush yesterday was horrible.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
1:47 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
1:35 pm
Ok Jimmy, I understand your point…. Please try to understand mine. All players are not equal… While one has to be exceptional to become a NFL QB there is a difference between the average, the above average, and the great. In order to be great, or in order for your team to be great individual players must go above and beyond when the time comes. In my previos post, I gave you examples of young QBs that rose above issues, ( Eli got away from a sure sack and made a perfect throw) to make the play …even when others on the team came up short. On yesterday Ryan was handed the ball on the 50 yard line with 3 minutes to go and down 2 points. Those are the times that the best QBs separate themselves. In this case he did not….Again, that is on him
Friend
November 16th, 2009
1:48 pm
Don’t look now but he is one interception away from Delhomme status..Oouch
Bruce
November 16th, 2009
1:52 pm
**Terrence Moore wrote better columns than this junk. You know about as much about football as my 5-year-old daughter. I’d rather read Mr. College Football than this poorly written crap.**
Joseph
November 16th, 2009
2:08 pm
The falcons have a VERY tough schedule this year and its about to get worse. pray for 8-8 because worse is around the corner…
SashaStevens
November 16th, 2009
2:39 pm
Its ridiculous for people to say that the absence of Michael Turner, after he got injured, is what cost us the game yesterday against the Panthers. Thats nonsense. Ryan was off of his game a little, but when the Falcons started from the Panthers 49 yard line trailing by only two points after Elam missed a chip shot field goal, the Falcons should have taken the lead on that drive. Ryan tried to get down field on one play and was intercepted trying to force a pass over a defensers head and it sailed on him over the open receiver. The Falcons only needed about 20 yards to get into Elams range; SO WHY DIDNT THE FALCONS METHODICALLY MARCH DOWN THE FIELD USING SOME OF THEIR OFFENSIVE WEAPONS; RODDY WHITE, SNELLING, JENKINS, GONZALES. All those guys were playing yesterday and I’m sure they could have marched down the field 20 yards to get into Elams range. Ryan “choked” and “panicked” and tried to get all the yards at once, making an errant throw. They began the drive on the Panthers 49 and COULDNT MOVE THE BALL DOWN FIELD 20 YARDS. To me, that is what is pathetic about yesterdays game. Peyton Manning had a similar situation against the Patriots and made it look so easy. The Falcons had enough weapons to move down the field 20 yards to get into Elams range. However, Elam might have missed the field goal attempt anyway since he had already missed a chip shot yesterday; so the Falcons now have more problems than they are willing to admit. The Falcons should bring aboard Morten Anderson, because Morten would have made a 34 yard field goal. The Falcons were acting as though they didnt want to win the game yesterday. The Falcons made NO REAL EFFORT TO WIN THE GAME.
JaredCarter
November 16th, 2009
2:53 pm
Bob from Winder: You are exactly right. I saw Matt Ryan throw the ball out of bounds four or five times and Ryan was lucky he wasnt called on four intentional grounding penaltis. That would have made it even worse. Ryan looks mediocre, confused and hopeless out there right now. I hope he improves, but as of now he looks lost.
Chris
November 16th, 2009
2:58 pm
Vick Supporter = Typical Thug.
GooseWilson
November 16th, 2009
3:05 pm
Ryan currently is experiencing what is known as the SOPHMORE SLUMP. Ryan will come out of it and MOST ASSUREDLY regain his hall of fame stature and form. Despite the fact that although the ICE has currently melted and Ryan is experiencing the worst meltdown of his life, you can rest assured that Matty “Ice” Ryan WONT BECOME ANOTHER RYAN LEAF BUST.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
3:10 pm
Chris
November 16th, 2009
2:58 pm
Vick Supporter = Typical Thug
_________________________
Chris, I used to be a huge Vick Fan….
I have a MBA in International Finance and am currently a Regional Director for a large Multi-National..
Please tell me, What is Typical Thug about that???
Michael
November 16th, 2009
3:30 pm
The birds should have eaten more of the clock and kick the field goal. The play calling has been bad. The birds need to know how to win on the road.
Michael
hiramsaint
November 16th, 2009
3:36 pm
goosewilson………….. hall of fame stature? are ya’ kidding me? the dudes in his second year! he’s an average qb so lets keep it somewhat real
Big JC
November 16th, 2009
3:41 pm
Keepin It Real – While I liked Chandler, and a lot, the best QB that Atlanta EVER had was Bartkowski. Had he the weapons around him that Chandler had, we win 2-3 superbowls.
With that being said, the most PHYSICALLY talented QB we’ve ever had on the roster was Jeff George. Yeah, I know what you’re thinking, but that guy is 48 and can still throw a 50 yd out on a frozen rope.
Last, but not least, the greatest QB ever on our roster is currently leading his team toward a Super Bowl victory, wears #4, and does Wrangler commercials. Need I say more?
Thanks Jerry Glanville, for even now, 20 years later, your piss poor decisions are reminding us Falcons fans every day how badly we’ve squandered the great talents we’ve had over the years. It’s no wonder we can’t put together back to back winning seasons.
To Matt Ryan, I will say this. We understand that the NFL is hard. There are minds way more brilliant than ours out there 80 hours a week watching films of you take teams apart last year, and make big plays, like the Chicago game. That was one of the most brilliant throws I’ve ever seen. Back on topic, opposing coaches get paid way less money than you, Matty, and like nothing more than to see their lineman pound you into the ground. So, wake up, study harder, learn faster, and get in the gym and put on a little mass, and strength, because if you don’t, there’s a kid in Arkansas that looks REAL good to me. I watched him throw for almost 500 yds on my dawgs earlier this year, and he’s learning way faster than anyone expected. If you don’t pick yourself up and start performing better, you may be in Tampa in 2011.
QueenElizabeth
November 16th, 2009
3:49 pm
Its truly a shame that Ryan didnt get a chance to develop under the steady and watchful tutilage of Bobby Petrino. Petrino BOLTED before we had a chance to extract his infinite wisdom. Matt Ryan has all the ingredients of a certain first ballot hall of famer, and those talents certainly would have been showcased and developed under the magnificent leadership and coaching of Bobby Petrino. Oh well Pig suey!
Nativebird
November 16th, 2009
3:57 pm
It’s clear Matty is having the Rookie season he never had…but IT IS TIME for the VETS on this team to step and MAKE A PLAY for your quaterback! Michael Jenkins needs to get his Head out of his a$$ and make a stinking play! I guarantee you Steve Smith goes up and gets those balls. He REFUSES to not make that catch. THATS the kind of players we need.
Falcon Fan
November 16th, 2009
4:02 pm
I wish that I had DVR’d the game because what I saw on the final interception was Jenkins stopping early and trying to jump up for the ball instead of finishing his route — which would have put him and the ball in the same place (and yup, a db who would have rung his bell, but isn’t that his job?). I see guys posting that Ryan should be more like Favre and others, but isn’t squeezing the ball into tight spots what the best do and isn’t that what Ryan was doing on that last play? Jenkins came open in my opinion and needed to have manned up and continued his route.
Gamer
November 16th, 2009
4:05 pm
What did I tell you? Turner the Burner must continue his powerful scorching runs in order for the Falcons to win this one. He was on pace until the ankle hit. CHEAP SHOT by Panthers defender!!!
Matt got to show that he’s getting better with his middle to long range throws. Talk is cheap!!
He seem to be throwing falling away from defenders. Diagnotics, say Ryan got a bad case of happy feet, even when the defender is two steps away.
Hopefully, Turner heal fast from ankle injury.
Ryan and WR’s need to stay out on practice field playing throw and catch, mid to long range.
Falcons defense must take away running-backs cutback lanes.
Steve Smith made some courageous circus catches, kudos to him.
Falcons can still go 10-6, maybe enough wins to make postseason.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:08 pm
Open mind…
You want to judge Ryan against what veteran QB’s did? Eli Manning’s passer rating was 75.9 in his second year. He had 17 interceptions. His completion % was 52.8%.
Ryan’s second year so far—he has a 78.8 passer rating, 12 interceptions, and a completion % of 59.7. Everything else, Passing yards, sacks, and ypc are all projected to be similar by season’s end.
I did get your point.
The problem is you are comparing Ryan to veterans and saying this loss is on him.
Young QB’s (BR and EM are not young anymore) need a good team around them.
But what you are saying does not disprove what I am saying.
The fact that he is not playing like a veteran only proves my point…he is a sophmore QB on a team with a ton of holes.
This is a team sport.
If you want to compare Ryan to anyone…compare him to second year QB’s.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:15 pm
Falcon Fan,
I saw the same thing. Jenkins did not finish his route and made a weak attempt to jump up. Did the pass sail? Perhaps not, if Jenkins didn’t finish his route. I think had Jenkins made a better play on the ball…if he made more of an effort…that interception may not have happened.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:23 pm
Nativebird,
Exactly. Well put.
Big JC,
Good post. Thanks for pointing out that Ryan has already made some great plays and he hasn’t played two years. He has made some game winning plays.
To the haters,
Every QB goes through slumps–often tied to how well other teams are game planning them.
Ryan will be fine.
Just needs to get his head on and learn better pocket presence.
He has been a pro for 1.5 years.
Give him a break.
ForrestTucker
November 16th, 2009
4:23 pm
I dont think anyBODY has keyed on or identified WHY Matt Ryan threw his final pick yesterday? I watched the football game and I believe that Ryan RUSHED his throw that sailed over Jenkins head and was picked off. As I mentioned in an earlier blog, Ryan was so excited and fired up because of the incredible field position that the Falcons started out at that he didnt demonstrate the appropriate patience to let the plays develop for the Falcons methodically either move into field goal position or drive the ball into the end zone. Ryan rushed too much and it cost us the game. Had Ryan taken his time, the outcome of the ball game would have been dramatically different. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FALCONS VICTORY and the Falcons would be sitting today at 6-3 instead of 5-4. I hope Ryan learned that you have to slow down to speed up and win the football game. I dont care what anybody else has written on these blogs, Matt Ryan has already demonstrated a hall of fame calibre play at the quarterback position and I am thorougly convinced of that. Ryan will go on to become one of the all-time greats at the qb position and you can take that one to the bank!
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
4:30 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:08 pm
Ok, ok, ok…. Now we are playing the stat game…
Did you know the Elway has a career completion % of 58%?
Or that Troy Aikman has less 20 more TDs than INTs?
My point is that I can find stats to justify anything. I am not comparing second year to second year, because if I were, Ryan would need to go and win a playoff game in a place where its never happened before in order to be better than MV7, or win a SuperBowl like Big Ben and Brady did in their second year. Instead of trying to find a reason why this loss was on someone other than Ryan why not just….well thats not gonna happen, so let me say this, I want a Franchise player that can make a play to win a game win it counts, not one that comes up short and then hides behind the “team”…Montana made his bones winning games at the end, and he never blamed his recrivers or his line when he failed. Thats what the great ones do…They win games in spite of things going wrong.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:42 pm
Open mind…
You are comparing a QB with 1.5 years experience with “great ones” who had great teams around them.
Brady can’t complete a pass if his O Line doesn’t give him time to throw.
Big Ben can’t get the touchdown if his receiver won’t finish the route or go up the ladder.
Put Ryan in NE with Brady’s second year team.
This is a team sport.
Ryan made enough throws to win. He put them in position to go ahead.
The players around him didn’t make enough plays to enable them to win.
The FACT is that they all share blame. Ryan threw a pick that put them out of contention.
Jenkins didn’t finish a route.
The O Line couldn’t block a three man rush.
The corners couldn’t cover taller receivers.
This is a team sport.
Ryan’s interception was just the nail in the coffin of a team collapse.
This one is on the team.
You are suggesting he should be able to make a play to win a game that counts while IGNORING all the games he has done that.
You also ignore the fact that
Styles
November 16th, 2009
4:49 pm
Hey Vick supporter…everybody is racist, right?
LT
November 16th, 2009
4:54 pm
The Sports writers did not perpetuate this myth, this myth was perpetuated from the PR department and those who thought this young Quarterback was the Face of a Dreadful franchise… I have worshiped this franchise from Gilchrist, to Ryan and I do not she any difference Mike Smith Defenses at Jacksonville lead the league several years This powder puff group that he has assemble really baffles me.. as if he has forgotten how to Coach…Aggressiveness I am discussed and tried.. There is No! Heart to this Group (Michael Turner at Times shows a little Heart) for the most part Revenue Sharing is the Answer……
Vampirella
November 16th, 2009
4:57 pm
Atlanta is no Falcon good. Deal with it. No playoffs for buzzards.
FlashMarker
November 16th, 2009
5:01 pm
BREAKING NEWS: It just came across the wire that former Dogfighter extraordinaire Michael (Vampire) Vick will be traded to the Falcons for Matty “Ice” Ryan straight up and an undisclosed amount of cash! Vick will return on Sunday to start at qb for the Falcons.
Russell
November 16th, 2009
5:04 pm
If Jenkins catches the first down pass two weeks ago, we go in for a touchdown and game is all but over. If we get the sure-thing field goal last Sunday, we take the lead and play defense and run out the clock and win. Two games lost not because of a Ryan interceptions, but because other team members did not do what they are paid millions of dollars to do.
Sure, he has been throwing high, but did you see the view from behind the quarterback, there is a defender in front of the receiver and one behind the receiver. It would have been a spectacular throw if it had been completed and the play call was suspicious given the coverage of our downfield receivers. Moreover, hasn’t anyone notices that our receivers are blanketed every week. Either that is a problem with our receivers or the teams we play have employed press coverage. The other teams have seen that we have stopped throwing the ball down the field on long passes, so they are not concerned that our receivers will run past them. Therefore, without fear of the long pass, they can safely play on the hip of our receivers. We need to throw more long passes, even if one or two of the them are intercepted, so that the defenders will back off and give us a cushion the way our defensive backs always seem to give the other teams’ receivers.
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
5:08 pm
FlashMarker,
Oh…don’t even kid about that!
It took me ten minutes to stop convulsing.
I would let Ryan go for a 11th round draft pick just to AVOID Vick ever returning here.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
5:17 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:42 pm
I challenge you to name two games where he has made willed his team to a win….. Even MV7 had those moments…..
jj
November 16th, 2009
5:18 pm
lmfao
November 16th, 2009
9:48 am
JJ: You truly are an idiot. The beginning of your post indicates that you are going to explain WHY Vick Supporter is a raxist for criticizing Ryan.
Your words: “Anybody who thinks Vick Supporter’s vile isn’t racially driven is out of their minds”
You then meander to the subject of how to stop Mike Vick. You never explain your theory on racism.
You then go on to imply that any “older” voter who voted the first time for Obama is “racist”, and voted for Obama because he “looks like them”?
Uh, yeah…
If they were voting his agenda they would have voted for most any other Democrat that ran for president in their lifetimes. What, exactly, was it that drew them to the polls for the first time? Hint: it closely relates to the reason some (not ALL, mind you, but some) folks held season tickets for the Falcons for only the Vick years. I’m sure you’ll say it’s because he was “exciting”. Reality is that Beamer or whoever didn’t force that kid to become a Devin Hester type years ago did him a great disservice because he would have been one og the true greats at that position. He just ain’t an NFL QB any more than Charlie Ward, Pat White, or Tim Tebow. GREAT college QB though.
jj
November 16th, 2009
5:20 pm
“Open Mind….
November 16th, 2009
5:17 pm
Jimmy
November 16th, 2009
4:42 pm
I challenge you to name two games where he has made willed his team to a win….. Even MV7 had those moments…..”
Obvious first choice would be Chicago last year
Todd - Dacula
November 16th, 2009
5:33 pm
Pete: You wrote, ‘Listening to balcks “support” Vick just goes to show they will support a balck guy no matter what. DO you need more examples, Ray Nagin, Kwame Kilpatrick, Marion Berry, Charlie Rangel, Do I need to keep going? I guess it does not much intelligence to support someone just because they are the same color as you are’
And whites, support and continue to live off of slavery w/o denouncing it; now let’s talk George Bush, Rush Limbaugh, the Klan and than darn dixie flag… and the list goes on and on, that whites support , a much longer list)
Neither has nothing to do with the fact that Matt Ryan is and will always be a less than average QB. Obviouslymhe had nothing o do with Mike Vick not being in Atlanta. That was Vick’s and Aurthur Blank’s fault. The Falcons management could have not bent to PETA and a few of you knuckle heads and made a decision aftdr he was through with his legal troubles. The Falcons would have had a much better QB, one that could have make something out of nothing, with the help of his teammates.
Open Mind....
November 16th, 2009
5:45 pm
jj
November 16th, 2009
5:20 pm
I asked that you name two…..
"Chef" Tim Dix
November 16th, 2009
5:46 pm
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redbird
November 16th, 2009
6:12 pm
you can always go gety Vinny Testaverde off the golf course like Charlotte did a couple of years ago.. here take a look at this, it will encourage you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8GuH9oDHrU
Edd
November 16th, 2009
6:39 pm
Falcon fan since 66′, Ryan isn’t on target, bottom line, Mike Smith , get to coaching and fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill from Jax
November 16th, 2009
7:32 pm
I just looked at the picture of Turner being tackled by Johnson and I have a question. I didn’t get a chance to see the game so I don’t know if Johnson was penalized for the tackle, but isn’t the rule that if you grab any part of the helmet to make a tackle it is a 15 yard facemask penalty? From the picture it looks like Johnson is trying to rip Turners head off. Do you think this is why we tried to knock Steve Smith out of the game also? Tit for Tat!!!
MARTIN
November 16th, 2009
7:51 pm
Falcons are officially on the clock,December 13, 2009 is nearing. Remember what you guys said about not being able to wait for the saints to come to the georgia dome. Let me repeat what I said the night that the saints beat the turd birds. It may not matter, as the division will be wrapped up by then. I mean there are only so many games left in the season. The saints keep their winning ways, and you guys continue to lose, well need I say more. Now, you guys continue to compare vick/ryan. I mean what’s really going on with that b.s. You guys should be talking about that whipping the giants are going to put on the turd birds.
geno
November 16th, 2009
8:13 pm
The falcons were finished when they hired Demetroff.. This guy doesnt know football…..just look at his face, he looks like a little twerp…Anyway, heres a little advice for TD…..ALL-PRO TIGHT ENDS WILL NOT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP..just ask Alge Crumpler, Todd Heap, Jason Whitten, antionio Gates, heck Tom Coughlin shipped his TE and then they won the superbowl…….WIDE RECIEVERS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, just ask Plaxico Buress, Jerry Rice, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison or michael irvin………CLASS DISMISSED TD
Billy Bob
November 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
A career is not made in two seasons. Just take a moment and check out the stats of the qbs that are currently having great seasons. There have been times when Delhomme was about to be run out of town. Even Favre had seasons and games that were horrible. Time will tell about Ryan’s career but one thing is certain, there have not been enough games and sufficient time for Smith or Dit to do their jobs build this team and have a track record. This team is still a work in progress.
atlshirt.org
November 16th, 2009
8:59 pm
is it too late to resign D.J. Shockley ??
Glen from Decatur
November 16th, 2009
9:30 pm
What’s that phrase again…”Vick Apologists”…could we be seeing the “Ryan Apologists”? He’s a good QB but let’s at least admit that his weakens are showing and he has got to step up!
Glen from Decatur
November 16th, 2009
9:32 pm
Sorry, I meant weakness. Spelling is obviously my weakness.
old Tech fan in NC
November 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
you guys would really chirp if your young guy had Jake’s numbers…
Back 2 Reality
November 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
Art Blank
November 15, 2009
7:29pm
Very Funny!!! Ol’ Artie Blank got duped by ESPN & Peta into signing Matty Melt!! Face it, this team just doesn’t have the same vibe it had a few years ago, & it isn’t going to get easier.
Back 2 Reality
November 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Go Steelers!!!!
thunderbull56
November 16th, 2009
11:24 pm
Over coached,over hyped.Matt’s going to be all right.He just needs to step back and realize that he can’t hit a five run homer every play.Just ’cause you traded for a “future Hall of Fame” tight end, does not mean you or your O Coordinator should freak/flip out.Too much attention is being paid to “Prima Donna” egos than to winning/scoring.Hate to say it ,but the Gonsalez trade will turn out to be a curse in disguise.Matt was fine until he had a Superstar to worry about.Why pay Roddy the big bucks if you gonna throw to the TE half the time or more? Course I’m probably the only one to notice Jeffy.
thunderbull56
November 16th, 2009
11:35 pm
P S, where’s Morton when we need him?
.D-Nice
November 17th, 2009
1:36 am
Matthew stafford does suck. No one can deny that just as I said when he was at UGA. Same issues and a QB rating in the 50s. Thats not the stuff of legends for sure LOL
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
8:34 am
One thing I’ve noticed in recent weeks is that Ryan seems almost too reliant on Gonzalez. He locks in on the tight end way too much and it seems at times like the Falcons have forgotten they’ve got a Pro Bowl receiver in Roddy White and another pretty good one in Michael Jenkins.
What was this guy sniffing when he said Jenkins is another pretty good WR’s. He hasn’t watched Falcon games the last 4 years.
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
8:36 am
It’s a good thing Atlanta doesn’t have a bridge with a large body of water underneath. If the Falcons finish .500 or below, that bridge would cluttered with jumpers.
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
8:48 am
@Pete
November 15th, 2009
10:36 pm
Vick was garbage his last 2 years in the league. How come our receivers magically started cathcing balls after Vick left?
Wait a minute. Alge Crumpler caught passes. Jenkins still can’t catch a cold. White has gone on record to say he didn’t commit during his first years in the league. You forget that Petrino had White catching hundreds of passes during practice. That is when he started “all of a sudden” catching passes.
I swear people have selective memories. Jenkins is your weak link in the offense. He can’t get off the line of scrimmage consitently and has butterfingers. Yet, he still is starting. Opposing DB’s know they have the day off and double White or Gonzales. That’s probably reason #3 your guy Ryan is making people rethink the Peyton Manning comparisons.
Papadawg
November 17th, 2009
9:07 am
Turner out, Ryan throwing high, Defense average at best Yeah I think we are in Deep Trouble
C from Marietta
November 17th, 2009
10:38 am
Jeff, you can’t wait for our teams here in Georgia to have a bad streak. Your one of the most negative and thoughtless writers. Love to kick a team when their down. Always pushing the panic button. Sports writers are down with there with Lawyers. Except, sometimes you need a lawyer.
ThunderboltPatterson
November 17th, 2009
11:44 am
Matt Ryan is one of the greatest talents to ever come into the NFL. He will be fine as soon as be breaks out of his slump. The person who is to be blamed for the loss to the Carolina Panthers is Jason Elam. That is a greater concern than Matt Ryan. He missed a chip shot field goal that was the distance of an extra point. If this continues the Falcons may only be getting 6 points for touchdowns instead of 7 points. THAT FOLKS IS A GREATER CONCERN FOR ME RIGHT NOW!!!! Lets quickly bring in 100 year old Morton Anderson to fix our kicking problems.
William
November 17th, 2009
12:05 pm
Matt Ryan will continue to struggle if he don’t fix the problem with being pressured.I like this kid as a quarterback but this will be his downfall if correct this problem.I have said this many of times and teams know how to play him.Play tight coverage,bump the receivers,stack the line and then the ice will melt.
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
12:16 pm
@Russell,
If Jenkins catches the first down pass two weeks ago, we go in for a touchdown and game is all but over.
Two weeks ago? Heck, you could have said the same 4 years ago!
Two games lost not because of a Ryan interceptions, but because other team members did not do what they are paid millions of dollars to do.
So I guess this doesn’t apply to the current QB?
Sure, he has been throwing high, but did you see the view from behind the quarterback, there is a defender in front of the receiver and one behind the receiver.
Other QB’s get killed by pundits when they throw into double coverage. You’re ok with you’re QB’s tendancy to thrown into double coverage?
Either that is a problem with our receivers or the teams we play have employed press coverage. The other teams have seen that we have stopped throwing the ball down the field on long passes, so they are not concerned that our receivers will run past them. Therefore, without fear of the long pass, they can safely play on the hip of our receivers. We need to throw more long passes, even if one or two of the them are intercepted, so that the defenders will back off and give us a cushion the way our defensive backs always seem to give the other teams’ receivers.
Where have you been the last 6 years? With the exception of White’s emergence as a pro WR last year, the Falcons haven’t had an adequate WR’s core since Tony Martin and Terrance Mathis.
Why are many on this blog so afraid to admit that the QB is part of your problems here?
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
12:18 pm
Matt Ryan will continue to struggle if he don’t fix the problem with being pressured.I like this kid as a quarterback but this will be his downfall if correct this problem.
@William,
This amazes me but many on this board would not say this years ago when you had THE SAME ISSUES with protecting the QB!! So NOW it needs to be addressed!
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
12:35 pm
- Mora’s rookie year resulted in Championship Game
- Smith’s rookie year resulted in Lame…1 and done
- Mora’s guy went to Pro Bowl
- Smith’s guy went to Tidy Bowl
It’s pretty clear that everytime I flush my toilet, I see a bunch of Smitty & Matts – and that my friend is not any scrubbing bubbles
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
12:40 pm
2 Games is a slump
5 Games is a season.
“DUMP THE CHUMP”
LukeMerriman
November 17th, 2009
1:34 pm
I am shocked as I read through a lot of these ignorant BLOGS. Matt Ryan is the current the “reigning” OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. Does that mean anything to anybody. HE’S PROVED HIS PERFORMANCE FOR AN ENTIRE SOLID FOOTBALL SEASON, HIS ROOKIE SEASON NO LESS. The majority of folks are blogging as if Ryan is an unproven commodity and a likely bust (like Ryan Leaf) and if dramatic changes are not made, he wont make it in the NFL. Folks your eyes are deceiving you. Ryan was not solely the blame for the last two losses as was pointed out by a fellow blogger. Had Jenkins held on to his attempted catch late in the game in New Oleans we beat the Saints. If Elam makes his chip shot field goal, we likely beat the Panthers because they would have been deflated and our defense would have gotten fired up and we probably beat those two teams. Our record would have been 7-2 instead of 5-4. We only got thoroughly beaten by two clubs this year: Dallas and New England. We should have won every other game on the slate. Ryan is the best thing that has ever happened to the Falcons. Someday he will stand tall in Canton, Ohio and will be enshrined in their illustrious halls of fame.
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
1:52 pm
Had Jenkins held on to his attempted catch late in the game in New Oleans we beat the Saints. If Elam makes his chip shot field goal, we likely beat the Panthers because they would have been deflated and our defense would have gotten fired up and we probably beat those two teams.
If, if, if….If Ryan had the capability to carry a team when the offensive line couldn’t open up holes for your MVP caliber RB you’d be undefeated. If Ryan doesn’t throw INT’s at critical times you’d have won 3 of 4 of the last games. Last year was last year right? Teams adapt and the Falcons and Ryan won’t sneak up on folks this year.
The template has been set on stopping “the Next Peyton Manning”, stop the run and jam WR’s at the line and give the QB different looks. I suspect other teams had fallen for the hype and were afraid to do that last year for some reason.
Jimmy
November 17th, 2009
3:55 pm
lamac66
November 17th, 2009
1:52 pm
Isn’t “IF” always the story? If Jenkins hadn’t misplayed that second interception, it might have been a big play. “IF” Ryan hadn’t throw it…if, if, if.
The problem with the Ryan detractors and this goes for ALL of them—-
The problem is the haters expect a guy 1.5 years in the league to play like Eli Manning or so called, “big game” QB’s.
The problem is you are all impatient and unreasonable.
Eli Manning looked very similar to Ryan in his second year.
So did Peyton Manning.
The Ryan haters are impatient and unreasonable.
Give the guy a few years in the league.
You won’t because you are simply a hater…..
not a real football fan.
Jimmy
November 17th, 2009
4:00 pm
One of the commentators on a sports network said the problem with Ryan is that he has lost his confidence and his mechanics are out of whack.
Watching the film…it is easy to see it.
His lack of confidence has made him hesitate a little because he is questioning what he sees.
He threw some early picks and now he is pressing and hurried.
This is a sophomore slump issue.
Teams have adjusted to his game and he is still to young to adjust to quickly to them.
This will work itself out.
Ryan will be fine…if the team takes care of business on the O Line and with receivers.
Jimmy
November 17th, 2009
4:08 pm
LukeMerriman
November 17th, 2009
1:34 pm
Luke,
Most of the Ryan haters are either morons or lonely, bitter people who just want to tear down.
I don’t have a problem with discussion about problems with Ryan’s game.
If someone points out, “Ryan has happy feet for some reason” or “Ryan is not making all his reads” that is cool.
If someone just criticizes his ability or suggest he is a bust because he hasn’t “carried” the team a few times…that is just idiotic.
He is in the league one and a half seasons.
He has made some really big plays.
Maybe he didn’t “win” the game in dramatic fashion.
So what?
Give him time.
The problem with the “noodle arm” and the vick supporters is that they are here ONLY to tear down…not discuss.
The problem is the haters are impatient and unreasonable.
Give Ryan as many seasons as Vick had.
Give him as many seasons to get it together that Eli Manning had.
Then let’s talk.
The problem with the haters is they are impatient and unreasonable.
Hamp from Tuscaloosa
November 17th, 2009
4:17 pm
I’m a die hard falcon fan. If we could support them up until now we need to continue that support. It depresses me to read some of your post. Preschool band wagons fans it is pathetic. Most of you sound like your dogs just dided. Make up you minds and support OUR team. I do have to agree Matt is playing like shigity right now. I believe he is a gym rat and will get turned around but mike mularkey goes to sleep at the wheel sometimes what the hell does he think about at times. If we lose to NY it is gonna be a long season because win our lose they beat teams up and that just makes it harder the next week.
Jimmy
November 17th, 2009
4:35 pm
Hamp,
I agree. I am sick of the Ryan haters who don’t really care about the TEAM.
They want to tear down.
I also agree…if we lose to NY, the pressure is REALLY on.
When the season began, I said it would be great to make the playoffs.
But what I want is nine wins.
Just nine wins would mean this franchise has moved forward in a big way.
Nine wins gets breaks that “no consecutive winning seasons” streak.
Playoffs would be gravy.
LukeMerriman
November 17th, 2009
5:01 pm
The football season is a long season, although shorter than the other 3 major sports with only 16 games. The Falcons STILL have SEVEN GAMES ON THE SLATE. I believe they will WIN THEM ALL and their record at the end of the regular season will be 12-4. It wont catch the Saints for first place, but it will give us a playoff berth and momentum going into the playoffs. I STILL STAND BY MY PRESEASON PREDICTION. THE FALCONS WILL EASILY WIN THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONE TO THE BANK!
Gamer
November 17th, 2009
5:03 pm
Can the Falcons bring Deion Sanders in to coach DB’S on techniques. So far, a lot of miss plays are left on the field because DB’S don’t turn the head around to play the ball.
Play the receiver until the ball arrive. Then play the ball by swiping ball away from receiver before he snags it in.
Tye Hill turn his head around to the ball when Smith leaped but he never look back toward the receiver to locate the ball, blind play. The result TOUCHDOWN STEVE SMITH.
FALCONS STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GO 10-6.
Mr. Falcon
November 17th, 2009
5:52 pm
The problem with the Falcons is the play calling. They are not creative at all. The are so predictable it is pathetic. If they are running the ball well they decide to start throwing the ball instead. If they are not running the ball well they just keep running the ball anyway. When they get to fourth down on the goal line they kick field goals; they should know by now that Elam sucks. These coaches are not on the same page at all. Smith is looking confused. He was way too conservative at the beginning of the season; now he is trying grow a set, but that is just not his style. The only way the Falcons are going to start winning is if they start going for broke. They are going have to leave it all out there on the field. I can accept a loss easier if I know that they gave it everything they had. GO Falcons!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Smith, let them birds fly high, and quit laying eggs.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
6:20 pm
Uh Oh………………
Falcons have lots of concerns going into big games
By PAUL NEWBERRY (AP) – 18 hours ago
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — Matt Ryan is struggling. Michael Turner is hurting. Jason Elam can’t seem to make a field goal.
Yep, the Falcons definitely have plenty of things to worry about as they head into a decisive stretch of the season.
Atlanta (5-4) was down in the dumps Monday after a sloppy 28-19 loss at Carolina, knowing it had wasted an excellent chance to gain an upper hand in the NFC wild-card race.
“We had several opportunities to win that game,” coach Mike Smith moaned. “But we made way too many mistakes.”
Now, at a time when some doubts may creeping into the team psyche, the Falcons face three games over the next four weeks that will likely determine the course of this season.
Next Sunday, they travel to the Meadowlands to face the New York Giants, one of four teams tied for the wild-card lead at 5-4. Philadelphia — another 5-4 team — visits the Georgia Dome on Dec. 6 for a game that will feature the return of Michael Vick to Atlanta. The following week, the Falcons host the unbeaten New Orleans Saints (9-0).
“This,” said running back Jason Snelling, “is no time for us to start getting nervous or think about the past.”
Ahh, the past.
Coming off a surprising trip to the playoffs last season, the Falcons were convinced this would be the year they finally broke the franchise’s streak of never having consecutive winning seasons. A 3-1 start certainly bolstered those hopes, but two wins in the last five games have undoubtedly caused some to wonder if that ignominious streak will continue.
“It’s not about just being average,” receiver Roddy White said. “A lot of us are going out there saying, ‘I’ve got one job, I’ll just do that.’… We’ve all got to get out there and do more, be more productive.”
Atlanta’s most pressing concern is Turner.
After a sluggish start, the Falcons’ leading rusher was on a major roll with three straight 100-yard games — until he went down with a sprained right ankle against Carolina. Now, Atlanta could be without its top two backs, since No. 1 backup Jerious Norwood has missed the last four games with a hip flexor (on top of sustaining two concussions this season). Snelling will start if Turner can’t go.
The Falcons re-signed running back Aaron Stecker and released wide receiver Troy Bergeron on Monday. Stecker had two carries for 6 yards and five receptions for 34 yards in two games before he was released last week.
Turner had only nine carries against Carolina — and still managed to gain 111 yards. Over the last three games, he averaged 9.1 yards every time he got the ball.
“We need that guy,” White said. “He’s our MVP. As long as we’ve got him, the offense rolls smoothly.”
So begins a week of speculation about Turner’s playing status. Even if the injury is not as serious as initially feared, the Falcons can hardly afford to be without their top running back for even one game. Smith was vague about Turner’s status, saying he’ll provide an update Wednesday when the initial injury report comes out.
“Mike’s a warrior,” White said. “Ignore the injury report. Mike is going to be playing Sunday.”
If Turner is the first concern, Ryan is 1-A.
The second-year quarterback already has thrown more interceptions through nine games (12) than he had in his sensational rookie season (11). His level of play has really gone down over the past five weeks — a completion rate of just under 55 percent, with 10 interceptions and only seven touchdowns.
Ryan has struggled with accuracy, leading some to wonder if there’s an issue with his mechanics or that perhaps he is suffering from a tired arm after a strenuous offseason program. In particular, he’s had a problem with passes sailing high over the intended receivers.
White pointed to Ryan’s competitive nature, saying it’s part of his makeup to attempt throws that other quarterbacks might shy away from.
“It’s like I told him yesterday, ‘Hey, man, don’t stop trying to make plays just because bad things are happening for us right now,’” White said. “He was like, ‘Hey, I’m going to keep making the throws that I make.’
“There’s nothing wrong with Matt,” the receiver added. “It’s tough playing quarterback in this league.”
Elam’s struggles are just downright mystifying.
One of the most accurate kickers in NFL history — including a 29-of-31 performance in his first season with the Falcons — Elam is a dismal 5 of 10 on kicks from 30 yards and out this year. If not for his reputation, the team surely would have brought in a replacement already. While the team has switched long snappers this season because of an injury, the problems seems to run deeper.
“You just try to keep doing what got you here,” Elam said. “If you get down on yourself, then it’s over. I’ve been through these little valleys before. It’s not a lot of fun. But you just keep your head up and keep going.”
Good advice for the entire team.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
6:22 pm
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Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
6:24 pm
Falcons have lots of concerns going into big games
By PAUL NEWBERRY (AP) – 18 hours ago
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — Matt Ryan is struggling. Michael Turner is hurting. Jason Elam can’t seem to make a field goal.
Yep, the Falcons definitely have plenty of things to worry about as they head into a decisive stretch of the season.
Atlanta (5-4) was down in the dumps Monday after a sloppy 28-19 loss at Carolina, knowing it had wasted an excellent chance to gain an upper hand in the NFC wild-card race.
“We had several opportunities to win that game,” coach Mike Smith moaned. “But we made way too many mistakes.”
Now, at a time when some doubts may creeping into the team psyche, the Falcons face three games over the next four weeks that will likely determine the course of this season.
Next Sunday, they travel to the Meadowlands to face the New York Giants, one of four teams tied for the wild-card lead at 5-4. Philadelphia — another 5-4 team — visits the Georgia Dome on Dec. 6 for a game that will feature the return of Michael Vick to Atlanta. The following week, the Falcons host the unbeaten New Orleans Saints (9-0).
“This,” said running back Jason Snelling, “is no time for us to start getting nervous or think about the past.”
Ahh, the past.
Coming off a surprising trip to the playoffs last season, the Falcons were convinced this would be the year they finally broke the franchise’s streak of never having consecutive winning seasons. A 3-1 start certainly bolstered those hopes, but two wins in the last five games have undoubtedly caused some to wonder if that ignominious streak will continue.
“It’s not about just being average,” receiver Roddy White said. “A lot of us are going out there saying, ‘I’ve got one job, I’ll just do that.’… We’ve all got to get out there and do more, be more productive.”
Atlanta’s most pressing concern is Turner.
After a sluggish start, the Falcons’ leading rusher was on a major roll with three straight 100-yard games — until he went down with a sprained right ankle against Carolina. Now, Atlanta could be without its top two backs, since No. 1 backup Jerious Norwood has missed the last four games with a hip flexor (on top of sustaining two concussions this season). Snelling will start if Turner can’t go.
The Falcons re-signed running back Aaron Stecker and released wide receiver Troy Bergeron on Monday. Stecker had two carries for 6 yards and five receptions for 34 yards in two games before he was released last week.
Turner had only nine carries against Carolina — and still managed to gain 111 yards. Over the last three games, he averaged 9.1 yards every time he got the ball.
“We need that guy,” White said. “He’s our MVP. As long as we’ve got him, the offense rolls smoothly.”
So begins a week of speculation about Turner’s playing status. Even if the injury is not as serious as initially feared, the Falcons can hardly afford to be without their top running back for even one game. Smith was vague about Turner’s status, saying he’ll provide an update Wednesday when the initial injury report comes out.
“Mike’s a warrior,” White said. “Ignore the injury report. Mike is going to be playing Sunday.”
If Turner is the first concern, Ryan is 1-A.
The second-year quarterback already has thrown more interceptions through nine games (12) than he had in his sensational rookie season (11). His level of play has really gone down over the past five weeks — a completion rate of just under 55 percent, with 10 interceptions and only seven touchdowns.
Ryan has struggled with accuracy, leading some to wonder if there’s an issue with his mechanics or that perhaps he is suffering from a tired arm after a strenuous offseason program. In particular, he’s had a problem with passes sailing high over the intended receivers.
White pointed to Ryan’s competitive nature, saying it’s part of his makeup to attempt throws that other quarterbacks might shy away from.
“It’s like I told him yesterday, ‘Hey, man, don’t stop trying to make plays just because bad things are happening for us right now,’” White said. “He was like, ‘Hey, I’m going to keep making the throws that I make.’
“There’s nothing wrong with Matt,” the receiver added. “It’s tough playing quarterback in this league.”
Elam’s struggles are just downright mystifying.
One of the most accurate kickers in NFL history — including a 29-of-31 performance in his first season with the Falcons — Elam is a dismal 5 of 10 on kicks from 30 yards and out this year. If not for his reputation, the team surely would have brought in a replacement already. While the team has switched long snappers this season because of an injury, the problems seems to run deeper.
“You just try to keep doing what got you here,” Elam said. “If you get down on yourself, then it’s over. I’ve been through these little valleys before. It’s not a lot of fun. But you just keep your head up and keep going.”
Good advice for the entire team.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
6:27 pm
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — Matt Ryan is struggling. Michael Turner is hurting. Jason Elam can’t seem to make a field goal.
Yep, the Falcons definitely have plenty of things to worry about as they head into a decisive stretch of the season.
Atlanta (5-4) was down in the dumps Monday after a sloppy 28-19 loss at Carolina, knowing it had wasted an excellent chance to gain an upper hand in the NFC wild-card race.
“We had several opportunities to win that game,” coach Mike Smith moaned. “But we made way too many mistakes.”
Now, at a time when some doubts may creeping into the team psyche, the Falcons face three games over the next four weeks that will likely determine the course of this season.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
6:34 pm
FANTASY FOOTBALL UPDATE:
Matt Ryan, QB, Falcons ($7.01 M). A Panthers fan I know compared Ryan to Jake Delhomme. Granted, it was a bit unfair as Ryan has thrown more TDs, but it just shows how far the sophomore has fallen. In draft-and-trade leagues, you’d be stuck hoping for a rebound from Ryan. In salary cap, you have no such obligations. Ryan should not be anywhere near your squad until he puts together a couple of good games. Even then I’d have some reservations about using him unless it’s in a dream matchup. (@NYG, TB, Phi, NO)
Todd - Dacula
November 17th, 2009
7:02 pm
LukeMerriman, do you really watch the Falcons; Matt Ryan suck even on MAdden 2010
Super Bowl? Are you kidding me?
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
7:05 pm
Let’s take a look at the teams the CHOKE has beaten:
- Miami (4-5)
- Carolina (4-5)
- San Fran (4-5)
- Chicago (4-5)
- Redskins (3-6)
COMBINED RECORD: (19-26)
TEAMS LOST TO:
- Patriots (6-3)
- Dallas (6-3)
- Saints (9-0)
- Panthers (3-4)
COMBINED RECORDS: (24-10)
So it looks like they can squeeze by the cellar dwellers but CHOKE against the contenders.
Fair and Balanced
November 17th, 2009
7:23 pm
Lukemerriman…put the pipe down.
Fair and Balanced
November 17th, 2009
7:29 pm
Atlanta’s pass-protection terminology and blocking schemes are the same as Ryan had as a BC senior, so right away he knew such technical elements as whether the tight end or the running back would pick up a stray blitzer. That allows him to immediately identify his hot receiver.
http://www.cardinalsportal.com/news/young-man-s-game-.php?act=print
This offense was built around Matt and Gonzalez was supposed to be the last piece to create this high powered offense that was being bragged about all off-season. We heard how great Matt looked from these very same AJC writers who are now scratching their heads. The same media pundits from Steve Young to Jaws have all gone quiet as church mice. Bottom line, we were told this offense would be BETTER than last season and its not. Apparently no one thought opposing teams would watch film and peep out every weakness – especially when Turner is shut down or out the game altogether. Well it is what it is so no need in trying to make excuses with that “sophomore slump” BS…its not a sophomore slump, its the defenses around the league kicking the butt of a Falcons offense that was desgined to accomodate a QB with limited abilities. PERIOD. Those so-called intangibles that were being bragged about have resulted in 12 interceptions thru week 9. Yeah…”intangibles”..that mystical belief made up by pundits who so dearly wanted Ryan to become the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas to satisfy a myth.
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
8:27 pm
Fair And Balanced
Don’t be so honest man, they will call you a racist
Matt "Choke" Ryan
November 17th, 2009
8:43 pm
HOW TO HANDLE SOPHOMORE SLUMP:
Aug. 11, 2003: No sophomore slump for Michael Vick
NFL By Paul Newberry
Associated Press
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Sophomore slump? Based on Michael Vick’s first preseason game, it doesn’t seem likely.
Vick, who was voted to the Pro Bowl in his first year as a starter, picked up right where he left off in one stellar quarter for the Atlanta Falcons.
Larry Love
November 17th, 2009
10:29 pm
Matt says he’s young and still learning? Man you’re getting paid millions to deliver the ball accurately–I don’t want to hear that B.S. Sounds like you’ve been drinking Smitty’s Kool Aid. That last intercept that broke our hearts was a replay of the exact thing that happened in New Orleans. We got the ball, drove it down the field (Turner Again!) and the very first play they get GREEDY and throw an interception. It’s like living a nightmare all over again. If Turner is running it down a team’s throat, why not keep running it? I know Turner was out by then, but goodness you got Snelling you can give it to or hit out of the backfield. Matt grow a pair and stand tall in the pocket (see Brady & Manning for instructions). What in the heck is Musgrave talking to Matt about after these games? Is anyone working on attacking him in practice to get use to the rushes and how to slide up in the pocket? Matt, you’re killing me man.
Steve K
November 17th, 2009
11:09 pm
We have 4 losses, 3 of them are to Top 10 teams(N.O., Dallas and NE all very much contending teams. This was our first loss to a non contending team. Maybe Ryans inconsistency or not but too soon to panic. Must win vs Gmen.
Back 2 Reality
November 17th, 2009
11:26 pm
LukeMerriman, dude put the meth down!! Falcons in Superbowl? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, man I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, please call me.
Jsmuga
November 18th, 2009
6:19 am
Has anyone looked at Ryan’s 24 game stats compared to Brady, Manning, Favre, Montana etc……. His stats are just as good if not better. Manning had 28 interceptions his first year… All of a sudden Ryan is horrible????? I agree he has had really bad games but he will get better…. The first time he has a good game we will be reading how great he is….
lamac66
November 18th, 2009
8:23 am
Has anyone looked at Ryan’s 24 game stats compared to Brady, Manning, Favre, Montana etc……. His stats are just as good if not better. Manning had 28 interceptions his first year… All of a sudden Ryan is horrible????? I agree he has had really bad games but he will get better…. The first time he has a good game we will be reading how great he is….
@ Jsmuga,
Ok, here we go. Here is your problem so-called falcon fans. You keep comparing Ryan to the great QB’s who have won superbowls. Then on the other hand you keep making excuses when he plays horribly. Can’t have it both ways.
You keep comparing him to Brady and Manning, then expect him to play as such!
lamac66
November 18th, 2009
8:29 am
November 17th, 2009
1:52 pm
Isn’t “IF” always the story? If Jenkins hadn’t misplayed that second interception, it might have been a big play. “IF” Ryan hadn’t throw it…if, if, if.
The problem with the Ryan detractors and this goes for ALL of them—-
The problem is the haters expect a guy 1.5 years in the league to play like Eli Manning or so called, “big game” QB’s.
The problem is you are all impatient and unreasonable.
Eli Manning looked very similar to Ryan in his second year.
So did Peyton Manning.
The Ryan haters are impatient and unreasonable.
Give the guy a few years in the league.
You won’t because you are simply a hater…..
not a real football fan.
@Jimmy,
How long should folks wait when they compare your Ryan to Manning and Brady? Tell me. Rothlisberger had less talent and went to a superbowl his first years in the league.
So, with your rationale this should be the year for Ryan. Maybe year 5 or 6? Tell me. What year did Eli win his Superbowl? I’m not impatient at all. I’m going by what you have hyped Ryan to be. That’s all.
jj
November 18th, 2009
8:38 am
Let’s just paint up Matt Ryan to look like the Soul Man character. Then everyone will love him!!
I understand that kids who grew up in the inner city are generally stupid, so I’ll try to be slow and simple here.
Matt…Ryan…is…in…his…second…year.
Mike…Vick…was…in…his…SIXTH…year…and…turning…the…ball…over. His…record…was…14-18…his…5th…and…6th…years. He…could…not…read…defenses…and…throw…accurately…at…27.
Everyone…still…loved…Vick…when…he…was…younger…but… expected…more…after…four or five…years.
It…wasn’t…because…he…is…black.
jj
November 18th, 2009
8:45 am
Also, slow and simple…
They…don’t…compare…Ryan…to…Brady…as…he…plays…now.
They…compare…him…to…Brady…when…he…was..younger.
Read…below…about…Brady’s…second…year…to…see…if…it…
sounds…familiar. Remember…that…he…had…a…Super…Bowl…
defense…with…Seymour…Bruschi…Milloy….Law…etc. It…is…not…that…hard…to…grasp…the…similarities.
2002 season
Brady and the Patriots finished the year at 9–7, tied with the New York Jets and Miami Dolphins for the best record in the division; however, the Jets won the division on the third tiebreaker, and the Patriots missed the playoffs.
Although posting a career-low single-season rating of 85.7, Brady threw for a league-leading 28 touchdown passes and 921 more yards than in 2001, though his fourteen interceptions would turn out to be a career high.
LukeMerriman
November 18th, 2009
10:05 am
Before our season gets wasted, I think Roddy White needs to step up, gain continuous separation between him and the defensive backs, get open and start making big plays for the Falcons. The great receivers have that ability to do that. They simply take over games and make incredible plays. WHITE HELD OUT OF TRAINING CAMP BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS GODS GIFT TO THE SECOND COMIING OF JERRY RICE, YET HE REFUSES TO STEP US AND PROVE TO US WHY WE PAID HIM SO MUCH MONEY. Sure Turner is good, but White needs to be just as good. We wont make the playoffs without White proving his worth. Tony Gonzales has proved his worth so now White needs to do the same. We have a team full of superstars and studs and they are playing like harmless lambs. The playmakers on offense and defense (White, Gonzales, Jenkins, Ryan and Abraham) need to take charge and start dominating people quickly or it will be lights out on our season.
SaulRunigan
November 18th, 2009
10:29 am
All of the fans who have been using the Matt “Choke” Ryan label have simply jinxed the Falcons. Those labels Matt “Choke” Ryan started showing up when the Falcons were 4-1. Since then the Falcons are 1-3. Those riduculous labels, I believe, have jinxed Ryan and the Falcons. Im sure Ryan has seen it in the ajc and it probably turns his stomach. It doesnt make sense because MATT RYAN had the same amount of NFL pressure last year and BREEZED THROUGH HIS ROOKIE SEASON assisting the Falcons to an impressive 11-5 season playing tough NFL competition. Whats more and whaht many of you idiots dont realize is that MATTY “Ice” Ryan EASILY WON THE OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARD LAST SEASON. No one else was considered for the award because no one played anywhere close to what Ryan did. Why Ryans play has tailed off this year a bit is somewhat strange, but when he snaps out of his slump he will regain his standing as the leagues best quarterback. RYAN WILL MOST SURELY END UP IN THE HALL OF FAME SO GUYS JUST GET USED TO HEARING ABOUT HOW GREAT RYAN IS BECAUSE HE IS TRULY ONE OF THE GREATEST TO EVER PLAY THE POSITION. Shut up Matt “Choke” Ryan idiots and keep your blogs off the airwaves.
lamac66
November 18th, 2009
2:07 pm
Face it Ryan was annointed waaaaaay to early as a Peyton Manning second coming. I know it’s hard for some of you folk that grew up in the sticks JJ..lol.
lamac66
November 18th, 2009
2:12 pm
Whats more and whaht many of you idiots dont realize is that MATTY “Ice” Ryan EASILY WON THE OFFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARD LAST SEASON. No one else was considered for the award because no one played anywhere close to what Ryan did.
Joe Flacco took his team further into the playoffs however. See he did garner consideration for Rookie of The Year amongst other rookies.
SaulRunigan
November 18th, 2009
3:14 pm
Iamac66: Sure, I agree with you. Flacco was in consideration for the award. Thats true, I stand corrected. But I heard with my own ears from hall of famer, former San Franciso 49er Steve Young, who once backed up the great Joe Montana, that Matt Ryan played his rookie season like a hall of fame quarterback. In addition, I saw for myself with MY OWN EYES that Matt Ryan played like a hall of fame quarterback in his rookie season. In fact I said it to some of my colleagues before I heard Steve Young say it live on ESPN. Before the Monday night Saints game a few weeks ago, I saw Steve Young talking to Matt Ryan before the game started so I believe Young knows that this guy (Ice) is the real deal and his assessment of Ryan is good enough for me. Now Ryan is in his sophmore season and all of a sudden he forgot how to play quarterback? No. I dont buy it. I’m also not saying Ryan is the best rookie Ive seen, cause that distinction goes to Dan Marino and Peyton Manning. What I will say is when Matt Ryan comes out of his slump, he will be winning games for the Falcons hopefully sooner rather than later. Last year the Falcons started out 4-3. In the second half of the season the Falcons won seven of the last nine games (7-2) to finish a steller 11-5 and then got upset by Arizona in the playoffs. The Falcons were the FAVORED team against the Cardinals, however, the Cardinals have who I consider the greatest receiver to ever play football in Larry Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald was just too much for the Falcons to overcome. I believe the Falcons will finish the year 7-0 by winning out their last games to finish a respectable or steller 12-4. This wont catch the Saints for first place in the division who will finish at 16-0, but its good enough for a playoff berth and hopefully we still get into the superbowl and win it. I predicted it at the start of preseason and Im standing by that prediction. If the Falcons stars come alive (John Abraham, Matt Ryan, Mike Jenkins, Roddy White and Tony Gonzales), truthfully there is no team out there who can stop us. If you doubt the Falcons at all, then go back and watch the tape of the this years game against the San Francisco 49ers. That was a game when all systems were on GO and the Falcons played up to their potential and just went out and CRUSHED FRISCO 45-10. The Falcons can play like that EVERY SUNDAY if they were motivated to. Stay tuned because Im not backing off my prediction. FALCONS WIN THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR. Hee Haw!
D Shaw
November 18th, 2009
4:57 pm
There are some major issues going on with Matt he normally doesn’t miss throws as bad as he is missing. He doesn’t seem like he is comfortable in the pocket anymore. True outside of White and Gonzalez we don’t have any wide recievers but the ball has to be atleast close to their hands for a catch. Another big problem is Where is John Abraham he has been non-existent this year to say the least. But once Matt get’s his mind right and Norwood comes back we will be fine!
Matt "Choke Forever" Ryan
November 18th, 2009
5:01 pm
Ryan is so good that in my opinion there are only four qbs in the league who I feel are better than Ryan: 1) Manning, 2) Brady, 3) Brees, and 4) Carson Palmer. Thats it! Ryan is MUCH BETTER THAN Romo, the other manning (Eli), Jay Cutler, DeMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Brady Quinn and of course Vick. Ryan is better than all of them except for the first four I listied in numerical order. That is why I keep saying that Ryan is headed for the hall of fame.
CrowlerWilkinson
November 18th, 2009
5:24 pm
I read today where LaBron James will be getting a tryout with the Cleveland Browns to play either at wide receiver or tight end. LaBron James CAN play football and basketball both at the same time. I realize that the other two sport athletes, Brian Jordan (football and baseball); Dion Sanders (football and baseall); Bo Jackson (Baseball and football) all had the same two sports. Brian Jordan didnt play both at the same time. He started out in football and switched over to baseball. I think LaBron will excel at football because this combination can be played simultaneously without any adverse or strenuous side effects. LaBron is ALREADY great at basketball and is probably bored because he is already at the top of his game and couldnt get much better. If LaBron decides to try football, he will be challenged but he is so gifted that it would be worth watching nonetheless. Football is played once a week and is difficult enough but then to combine football with basketball simultaneous, is not nearly as mentally taxing as baseball and football. LaBron can make them both work equally as well. LaBron is probably the only player who can potentially excel in both of those sports, by playing at an all star level in both. Bo Jackson did this one season in his great career, but he couldnt sustain it long enough to be great in both sports. Bo was excellent in both sports and would have been a hall of famer if he selected only one of the two sports. LaBron may end up being a hall of famer in both sports, should be decided to take up football as his hobby.