Experts say Tech has about hit the ceiling in BCS

MattyB

November 9th, 2009
2:36 pm

Can’t control computers or voters. Just keep winning.

reebok

November 9th, 2009
2:37 pm

you mention alabama twice above…probably meant to say florida one of those 2 times.

SWFLJacket

November 9th, 2009
2:37 pm

Beat DOOK!!!!

and first, maybe

EW

November 9th, 2009
2:38 pm

First?

SWFLJacket

November 9th, 2009
2:39 pm

Beat DOOK!

and shatter the ceiling

reebok

November 9th, 2009
2:40 pm

i just wish there was a scenario where you could have, say, cincy & boise state play for the mythical BCS championship…that would presumably put a stake through the heart of this monster once & for all…

ooohhh…is mike silve going to fine me for being negative?

Jamaaliver

November 9th, 2009
2:40 pm

Enter your comments here

Phillip

November 9th, 2009
2:41 pm

If Cincinnati loses to West Virginia which is highly possible and TCU loses to Utah and Texas loses to Texas Tech or A&M, then I think it’s highly possible that we’ll jump Boise State and play the winner of the SEC Championship game. If Florida or Alabama loses before then then everything is up in the air. We just have to take care of Duke and Georgia and see how the cards fall in place.

Innocent Bystander

November 9th, 2009
2:42 pm

Hm… Someone should check out Sagarin’s Strength of Schedule rankings. More interesting than you’d think.

@wbarker

November 9th, 2009
2:43 pm

I did notice there’s a bigger gap of separation between 7 and 8 than there is between 4 and 7. That has to give some hope to GT for moving up in the BCS.

wesleywhatwhat

November 9th, 2009
2:44 pm

just beat duke and think about bcs implications later.

(btw, can we get an article on the evolution of paul johnson’s system before any more articles on bcs rankings, please?)

Hal

November 9th, 2009
2:49 pm

Tech now has a bull eye on it back and it will have all it can handle with Duke, UGA and most likly Clemson in the near future. What they do and how they do it will go a long way. Just concentrate on what “you” have to do Techies and you’ll be just fine.

StraightJacket

November 9th, 2009
2:52 pm

Jeff, with Brad Edwards’ logic, why not just extrapolate to his “logical” conclusion? Which is:

Just shut down College Football after the SEC Championship Game? I mean, that’s what he’s saying here. Texas? Nah,… forget about ‘em! They play in the Big 12, where Baylor and Iowa State roam.

Extrapolating just a LITTLE farther, since it has now become obvious that the SEC is really no more than 4 teams, we should just have a short season every year where UF & ‘Bama get top seeds, and if Tenn or LSU can beat them … twice … in the same year (with SEC refs), then they can be champs.

All OTHER 116 teams in FBS will NOW join the FCS, … along with ALL bowl games, and have a playoff champion for the “little” teams that don’t matter.

That really IS what he’s saying here.

In summary, GT doesn’t deserve to be above any of the unbeatens; including TCU, Boise, and Cincy. But HISTORY has proven that “teams that lose LATE have lost their Championship chance” , and if somebody wants to write new history with modern smoke-filled room politics, they should not bother with the charade that objectivity is involved. LOSING LATE in the season IMPLIES that your team is NOT improving … I don’t care WHO you’re playing!!!

So, let’s declare a Champion on December 5 in Atlanta, and move on to basketball season.

-SJ

wiley

November 9th, 2009
2:52 pm

BEAT DUKE!!! A BCS bowl and ACC championship is a huge accomplishment…there is no sense in whining about the BCS…everyone gets screwed except the SEC, Ohio State, and USC. Play to win!

Scott

November 9th, 2009
2:54 pm

What idiots. First, GT’s schedule strength is 12th in the nation from Sagarin. The premise of tech getting to the top is based on this fact. There CANNOT and WILL NOT be two sec teams in the title game. Since the sec refs have almost assured two undefeated sec teams to the champ game, there is no way a rematch will happen. So if texas cincy and tcu were to lose, the voters and idiots in the media will have no choice but to put tech in the game assuming gt wins out. Saying they can’t go above 7 is just stupid. If cincy loses and we win, uh hello we move to at least 6th. If tcu loses too, we jump them. The only team they would potentially keep above us for losing is texas and it would HAVE to be a reg season game. If texas lost the big 12 title game, they aren’t playing in the nat champ game. What other teams are out there if texas, cincy and tcu lose? Boise has no shot. They should be ranked 20th anyway. Watch lsu dismantle la tech this week. Boise struggled against the same team.

GA Tech Insider

November 9th, 2009
2:56 pm

Can’t worry about anything else other than beating Duke; I can assure you that’s what Paul Johnson and the team is doing. The only thing GA Tech’s football team has control over is their own games, and that’s what they’re concentrating on, one game at a time.

DawginLex

November 9th, 2009
2:56 pm

Tech will lose to UGA or Clemson, maybe both but not likely. Clemson has a good defense and the QB has tons of confidence that he didn’t have in meeting 1. Tech’s defense is not good enough to shut down UGA even with Joe cox playing QB.

Anyone that thinks it’s going to be a blowout hasn’t been paying attention. It will be a shootout. So will the game in Tampa.

GA Tech Insider

November 9th, 2009
2:59 pm

DawginLex; maybe you should be concentrating on finding a way to help your puppies win a meaningful game rather than prognosticate (pray) that GA Tech will lose another game.

ArkyTech

November 9th, 2009
2:59 pm

What a stupid column. Basically, what you’re saying is that if everyone ahead of Tech wins the rest of their games that Tech won’t pass any of them? DDDDDUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Stat Man

November 9th, 2009
2:59 pm

Certainly can’t complain being the highest rated 1-loss team in the nation. Doesn’t sound like a whole lot of disrespect to me.

Additionally, anybody looked up and down the top 25? What do you notice about the ACC & SEC? Appears there are more ACC teams in there than SEC (yes, I know Florida & Alabama are 1-2).

Interestingly, Tech needs Georgia to win it’s next couple so their strength of schedule gets a little boost. Imagine that – Tech benefitting from UGA trying to get bowl eligible.

Could this be the change Obama was talking about (cause I haven’t seen much change anywhere else!)?

Cosmo

November 9th, 2009
2:59 pm

TO BORROW FROM ERK: “Just one more time.”

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:04 pm

Arkytech
Exactly. Stupid column.

Steve

November 9th, 2009
3:05 pm

Tech has the best rushing game in College Football today . . .

Yeah, I think they need to be ranked above TCU, Cincinnati & Boise Sate . . .

Brent Cunningham

November 9th, 2009
3:06 pm

DawginLex is right. We’ve played well enough on offense to win, but we have hardly put anyone away and we aren’t likely to stop Clemson or even a poor Georgia team from scoring at least 20. We are gonna have to score on almost every time we have the ball. PJ will be going for it on more fourth downs until the defense improves.

GT JJ

November 9th, 2009
3:08 pm

DawginLex, gotta disagree with you on shutting down Cox. Cox is no Skinner, Ponder, Harris, or Lewis. I think UGA will score 14-21 unless they get a defensive or return TD. Tech will double that point total.

Clemson, on the other hand, I am more worried about. Duke too with their passing attack playing at home with bowl hopes alive. Never thought i’d be more worried about the dookies than the dawgs.

mtraininjax

November 9th, 2009
3:08 pm

Miami is what, 14? OSU, Iowa, Cincy/Pitt, Utah/TCU they could move up to top 10, if they win out. Could have 2 ACC schools in top 10. I can’t see the Orange wanting Cincy back, after the OB loss last year.

BankerDawg

November 9th, 2009
3:08 pm

“What really hurts Tech is their biggest games were played in the first five or six games of the season.”

There you go. One of the two foremost BCS experts just made the case for no poll to exist the first month of the season. When you play your tough games should mean nothing…

This whole system is flawed, flawed, flawed.

TCU is legit.

Boise and Cincy are frauds.

Who knows about Florida and Bama, or Texas for that matter. None of them have particularly jumped out at me this year.

In fact, for my money, I think TCU could take anyone in the top 10.

For the record, looking at the BCS, I personally would have Tech at #5.

I'm with DawginLex...

November 9th, 2009
3:08 pm

…Tech has the ability to run the table, but both UGA and Clemson, especially Clemson, have the ability to win against them(that is providing Dabo does not pull another Bowden – i.e. lose another game like the MD game – and lose to NC State or UVA). Other than the MD debacle Clemson has lost to # 7 Techby 3, and to # 6, and rising, TCU, by 7.

Clemson beat UM at Miami; Tech lost at Miami. Clemson beat Wake Forest 38 – 3; Tech beat Wake in overtime. Plus, Clemson came all the way back, on the road, against GT, only to give out of gas at the end – I would never bet against Tech if they get the ball last and it comes down to a final drive to win!

So, it should make for an interesting last 3 weeks – again provided Clemson does not go in the tank at NC State or against UVA! But, that is why they play the games.

Hayseed Dixie

November 9th, 2009
3:09 pm

It’s a Catch-22, chicken-and-egg thing for the ACC.

In order for the ACC to get respect, at least two teams have to consistently be in the NC conversation, and win 2 or 3 over ten years.

In order for *that* to happen, the average quality of football teams in the conference would have to nosedive.

It’s the SEC’s dirty little not-so-secret secret: they’re top heavy.

Futhermore: anyone think being part of the Big Least made Miami’s run of dominance a little easier?

Until Div I football has a playoff it’ll be a beauty pagent crossed with a cruel joke. Anyone looking for the evidence that cash trumps logic need look no further.

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:09 pm

No schlitz sherlock. But that’s as of right now. If Texas Cincy and tcu all lose, and GT wins out, please tell me who they are going to put in the Nat Champ game oh wise one????

Duber1958

November 9th, 2009
3:10 pm

What difference does it make? All Tech needs to concentrate on is their next game, then the next, and then hopefully the ACC championship. That is the only thing in their control and if they take care of this then the rest will either happen or it won’t. How many Tech fans were really expecting us to be at this point in the season, in the second year under Paul Johnson. Tech is having a wonderful run this year and the Tech fans need to just appreciate what is happening and make sure they continue to support the team in the coming weeks, especially in Tampa, if we beat Duke as we should.

BankerDawg

November 9th, 2009
3:12 pm

I’m with DawginLex-

Cannot argue the transitive property in college football.

Also, as you mention, Clemson lost to Maryland…perhaps the worst team in the ACC, if not the entire east coast…

Lastly, Dabo versus Paul Johnson for all the marbles….is there any doubt who wins that one?

CW

November 9th, 2009
3:13 pm

I completely disagree.

Let’s assume that Tech beats Duke, GA and wins the ACC championship game (which is going to be much more difficult than everyone thinks, btw).

TCU, Boise and Cincinnati all have games ahead of them that they may lose. If all three lose one game along the way, they will drop below Tech. Texas has looked unbeatable before and then lost inexplicably in the Big 12 Championship. If it has happened before, it can happen again.

If Bama and Florida win out (and both could also still trip up) only one of them will move on to the NC game. No way will the voters, computer or human, put together an all SEC re-match.

The only question is, would Tech get the nod over a Texas team that had just lost to someone like Nebraska or Kansas State? Because the Big 12 North is so weak this year, I think Texas losing their conference championship would knock them out of the big game.

The point is, all these teams still have a shot because finishing out the rest of these games with wins is going to very difficult for all of them – even Florida, Alabama and Texas.

F-105 Thunderchief

November 9th, 2009
3:14 pm

35th!

Whew! OK, now I’ll go back and read the post.

John Peters

November 9th, 2009
3:18 pm

boise has no chance. especially considering the only decent team they beat just lost to stanford. oh that team we just beat beat stanford too. this column reads like there is one game left in the season and the teams above gt all have cupcakes left.

StraightJacket

November 9th, 2009
3:18 pm

Jeff, from your column:

“The reason: The strength of the SEC — perceived and actual — carries a lot more weight with the voters and in computer rankings than the strength of the ACC (and therefore Tech’s schedule).”

Counter-Point:

Florida International (not to be confused with Florida Domestic!)
Charleston Southern (not to be confused with Charleston Western!)
Troy (not to be confused with Sparta!)
North Texas (not to be confused East Texas!)
U.T. – Chattanooga (not to be confused with U.T. – Martin!)
and … Florida International … AGAIN!!!! (’Bama & UF BOTH played this “powerhouse” out-of-conference team)

With a truly awesome schedule of “bye weeks” like this, I think Georgia Tech could probably handle the rigors of playing the “powerhouse” SEC teams UF and ‘Bama play like Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, etc….

Oh. Wait. Tech DID play those “powerhouse” SEC teams … just without the “bye weeks” that UF and ‘Bama had.

The only “right” thing to happen is for the OLD standard to hold true, and that is this:

IF YOU LOSE LATE, you’re toast.

Anything less is unethical politics.

-SJ

F-105 Thunderchief

November 9th, 2009
3:19 pm

I hope the best for Tech. All they can do is win. The rankings are so subjective. For instance, why is Pitt five spots lower than Tech? They probably don’t deserve to be.

Metal Jacket

November 9th, 2009
3:20 pm

Win out, this sets us up great for next year. Tech could start the season in top 5.

Cuttysark

November 9th, 2009
3:20 pm

Thanks for the information Jeff. With the teams up in front, and the bias in the human voting, it is already a done deal that GT will not make the NC game. The only outside team with a chance if somebody stumbles is TCU. Frankly they are the team that none of the big boys want to play.

Go to http://isportsweb.com for a review of the Yellow Jackets win in OT against Wake and Paul Johnson’s decision to end the game. As well as other GT articles. Go Jackets!

Mike

November 9th, 2009
3:21 pm

Now the insects can work on geting the correct number on there seating amount in Bobby dump stadium.

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:21 pm

Straight
How contradictory is that considering GT will have played 3 teams from said conference. And lets do some comparative score analysis.
GT beats Miss st by 11. Fla does by 10. Bama is a 13 point fav. I don’t think they cover.
Gt beats vandy by 25. Fla does by 24.
Based on what I have seen so far, we beat Ga something like 48-31.

Brad

November 9th, 2009
3:22 pm

A team that has lost the BIG 12 title game has advanced to the BCS title game before so it could happen again

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:23 pm

Jeff I am waiting for your answer. If texas, cincy and Tcu all lose, gt wins out, who will play fla/bama in the title game?

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:24 pm

Brad
Who was that?

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:27 pm

I seem to remember a team from the big 12 years ago not even playing in the big 12 champ game and either making it to the title game OR almost making it. But crazy upsets like usc losing to ucla that year and 2-3 other upsets had to happen. There has NEVER been a team that made it to the Nat champ game that lost their last game of the reg season or conf champ game.

jacket3

November 9th, 2009
3:28 pm

Being in the top 10 nationally…..wow. Tech at No. 7 wow. Maybe in 2010 but in 2009, wow. People will soon see the light. Just keep plugin’ away Jackets..

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
3:29 pm

DawginLex
&
I’m with DawginLex…

Tech’s defense (save for Miami) has stepped up and made plays when they needed. Have they given up big plays, absolutely.

For the record Florida State has a FAR better total offense than UGA and Clemson (FSU ranked 20, Clem 73, and UGA 88) There is no reason to think that GT won’t be able to make any necessary second half adjustments and pull out a close win.

UNC’s rush defense is FAR better than UGA’s and Clem (UNC #8, UGA #41, Clem #51) and we were still able to put up 317 yards on the ground. (not to mention we already put 301yds on the ground on Clem and outgained them 418 to 386 in total offense)

Finally….Dabo and Richt don’t have the fire breathing, intestinal fortitude, and c.ohunes to hang with Paul Johnson in a close game. Richt’s record speaks for it’s self, but he got out coached/schemed last year and he will again this year

god and greyhound

November 9th, 2009
3:31 pm

Tech has definitely peaked, assuming all the teams ahead of them win out. In that scenario, even the SECCG loser probably wouldn’t fall past Tech.

Of course things don’t always work out the way you plan. I guess upsets don’t happen in the world of the BCS “experts.”

Cincy has two challenging top 25 games left against WVU and Pitt. They also play an Illinois team which has found life the last two weeks. They could easily lose one of these three.

TCU has Utah. I don’t think it’s likely they lose this game, but stranger things have happened.

Boise plays a surging Nevada team, also undefeated in the WAC, which has given them fits the past two years. Nevada took them to the fourth overtime in Boise two years ago, before losing on a missed two point conversion.

Texas plays Kansas, A&M, and hopefully Nebraska in the Big 12 championship. Unlikely they lose any of those, but none of those teams is a cupcake.

And who’s to say Alabama or Florida doesn’t pick up a loss? Florida at South Carolina could be dangerous. If by some miracle Christian Ponder heals up, FSU could give them a scare in a shootout.

Alabama still plays at Miss State, who gave LSU all they could handle and made a good run at Florida. Then there’s the rivalry game with Auburn.

What if both Florida and Alabama lose before the SEC Championship game, and are ranked #6 and #7? Will winning such a game be enough for the SEC Champ to jump to #2?

A lot of things have to go right, but there’s still a lot of football to be played.

JB

November 9th, 2009
3:33 pm

Taking Wake into OT dulls a little shine off the Apple. I think Tech has a good team, But a top 3 or 4 with that D, I don’t think so. Now, I understand Tech folks will holler BS, But, they have no vote. Case closed.

tech can't hang

November 9th, 2009
3:34 pm

Tech would lose the championship game. Look at the losers that they play with in ACC. They haven’t blown away anyone this year. The ACC is weak and no one will vote a one-loss ACC team when a one-loss SEC team is available. Besides, I think Tech is going to lose to UGA anyway so the point is moot.

Styles

November 9th, 2009
3:36 pm

Oh, how sweet it will be shattering your hopes and dreams on November 28th!

GT

November 9th, 2009
3:37 pm

When all this discussion was going on about non BCS conference representatives getting a shot at the NC ,Tech was being coached by Gailey and that athletic director who both decided we were closer to Rice or Duke than to a national championship team. Most colleges would take the compliment and run, but like a woman being told she can’t run with the boys Tech felt you could educate its young and have winning football in the same sandwich. Somehow during that era we didn’t think we were part of that conversation and we probably gave it a weak reply since our administration was totally convinced we would never be in the mix anyway. Well now we are in the mix and so is TCU, Boise State,not to mention a Cincinnati team I think we could beat too. And their is some expert sitting somewhere already painting the another picture of how Tech can’t do something. We will see my friend ,we will see.

NVAJacketsfan

November 9th, 2009
3:38 pm

Tech has come close to their ceiling, but I don’t think they are there yet. If Tech and Boise State both win out I don’t think Tech would be behind the Broncos. It is even MORE of a percieved lack of SOS. I think no matter what happens to the rest of CFB, if the Jackets win out 5th is probably as high as they can reach in the BCS standings. A loss to UF or Bama in the SEC CCG isn’t going to drop the other one below Tech, Cincy losing to Pitt may not either. The fact is Boise state’s schedule is a joke and because of that it is extremely unlikely they will lose. TCU is helped just as much as Tech with Clemson winning.

So even if Tech does jump Boise and Cincy I don’t think we will move in front of Texas and the SEC head dogs. TCU isn’t going to get passed by us. Just like Tech has owned the SEC that we have played, TCU has owned the ACC that they played so they will get the benefit of the doubt over Tech if they win out.

Alan

November 9th, 2009
3:39 pm

JB
Yeah jb it’s all about the d. Who cares about an offense. Defense wins it all. Just ask all the teams that won scoring 35+ points in the Nat champ game over the past years.

1999 Florida State 12-0 Sugar: Beat Va. Tech 46-29 Bobby Bowden
2000 Oklahoma 13-0 Orange: Beat Florida St. 13-2 Bob Stoops
2001 Miami, Fla. 12-0 Rose: Beat Nebraska 37-14 Larry Coker
2002 Ohio State 14-0 Fiesta: Beat Miami, Fla. 31-24 (2 ot) Jim Tressel
2003 LSU (National Champs)
USC (#1 in AP Poll) 13-1
12-1 Sugar: Beat Oklahoma 21-14
Rose: Beat Michigan 28-14 Nick Saban
Pete Carroll
2004 USC 13-0 Orange: Beat Oklahoma 55-19 Pete Carroll
2005 Texas 13-0 Rose: Beat USC 41-38 Mack Brown
2006 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game:
Beat Ohio State 41-14 Urban Meyer
2007 LSU 12-2 BCS Championship Game:
Beat Ohio State 38-24 Les Miles
2008 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game:
Beat Oklahoma 24-14

EW

November 9th, 2009
3:42 pm

If Tech really wants to play for a BCS title then it needs to worry about NEXT year. The one consistent thing in the BCS is that teams benefit from the initial poll rankings. If GT wins out this year they will play in a BCS bowl and have the opportunity to be a top 10 preseason team. If they can do that, they set themselves up for a title run, but it won’t be this year.

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
3:42 pm

tech can’t hang
Facts:
CPJ @ GT vs SEC 4-1
CPJ @ GT vs St Richt 1-0
2008 Reg Season, SEC vs ACC 4-6

Opinions:
Everyone in the SEC except for LSU, Bama, and UF would go .500 against the big X, big XII, ACC, big east, mountain west, and WAC

GTville

November 9th, 2009
3:42 pm

If Florida loses to FSU, then GT and UF will have 4 teams to compare. GT will be 4-0 and UF will be 3-1. How could you put UF above GT in such a case? UF has scheduled all cupcakes on its nonconference schedule, except FSU.

If Alabama loses to either UF or Auburn, GT/AL have 2 teams to compare and both are 2-0. Alabama could be ranked higher simply be being Alabama and being in the SEC.

To compare the SEC vs ACC look at the combined record during the year and put most stock in the final week matchups: GT/UGA, FSU/UF, and Clemson/SC. If ACC wins out in the last week, I would put GT ahead.

Boise’s schedule is a joke. North Gwinett could win out in that schedule. TCU played and beat Clemson and UVA, so they have a strong case if they make it. Cincinati has a tougher schedule than Florida and Texas, so they should jump to top 2 with Alabama if all win out.

god and greyhound

November 9th, 2009
3:43 pm

What’s so bad about taking Wake to OT? They’re not a bad team.

5 of their losses are by a total of 13 points. They beat Stanford earlier this year, lost to BC on a freak play in overtime, and were clobbering Miami until they muffed a punt and Skinner got hurt. They would probably beat uog by 2 TDs.

Paul H

November 9th, 2009
3:44 pm

The Mountain West gets more respect than the ACC. Wow.

Justin

November 9th, 2009
3:46 pm

DawginLex,

I’m glad to see that all Dawg fans haven’t giving up yet. All I hear from my Dawg friends are georgia sucks and doesn’t have a chance. But, I do hope your wrong. GO JACKETS!!!

Jackets fan

November 9th, 2009
3:48 pm

I do not see how anyone can rank Boise state so high. They play no one and I mean no one other than Oregan. Lets see how good Boise State is when they actually play someone worth a damn

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
3:49 pm

Paul H

the ACC is .500 against the SEC with atleast 2 more wins coming for the ACC.

GT JJ

November 9th, 2009
3:49 pm

my bold predictions –
Tech wins out, including the ACCCG and Orange
clemson slips up in one of its last two, sending BC to the ACCCG
Pitt and WVU both beat Cinci
Boise and TCU both finish the regular season undefeated
Boise gets rolled in their BCS bowl, TCU proves they’re the real deal in theirs
Texas rolls into NCG against Bama, who knocked the gators off in the SECCG
Tech finishes the season #4 by beating Pitt in the Orange.
Texas wins the NC.

Rico

November 9th, 2009
3:50 pm

Who cares! Just proves the current system is crazy. Just keep winning baby. The only way Tech wins a National Championship is to finish this year 12-1 and then run the table next year.

By the way, I really do think CPJ will move on to a “powerhouse” conference once he wins a couple of BCS Bowls and/or a National Championship. He is motivated by all the “this offense will not work here” talk. He won at Georgia Southern, he won at Navy, he is winning at Georgia Tech AND someday he will want to prove he can win at somewhere like Nebraska, Auburn, Michigan or even the evil Notre Dame.

Tie him down now!!!!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
3:50 pm

Our entire season is this Sat. Nov.28 and Dec.5 that’s all. Period!

gdawginkalamazoo

November 9th, 2009
3:50 pm

Looking at Cincy’s defense the other night they will probably lose to Pitt. How can you have 600+ yards of offense and still have it come down to the wire. Hell of a back up QB Cincy has though.

Bobby Y

November 9th, 2009
3:51 pm

I know a way that could get rid of the BCS system by next year, it requires a vast majority of teams, players and coaches to be on board against the BCS system. But all that would have to happen is for the players to boycott the bowl games, essentially refuse to play, but every team would have to agree to do it, like a grass roots campaign. Word would spread and come bowl season if every team refused to play, millions would be lost and chaos would ensue. The BCS would be dumped for a playoff system.

Paul H

November 9th, 2009
3:53 pm

GT Que – who are those SEC teams the ACC is .500 against? Exactly. And by the way, nothing commands respect than having a female announce your game.

tech can't hang

November 9th, 2009
3:55 pm

StraightJacket: which “powerhouses” did tech play? Vandy? MSU? the cupcakes Tech played were ACC GAMES. You have to go out of your conference to play anybody worth playing. You played and beat the worst of our conference. We’ll see how you do against a mid-level SEC team when you play UGA. Everybody knows the ACC is weak. Texas won’t lose and UF or BAMA will play in the title game. Even if by some miracle Tech made it to the title game to play UF or BAMA, their defense would suffocate your running game and expose your weak passing game. It’s hard to win with one good receiver and a mediocre passing quarterback.

Tucker T

November 9th, 2009
3:56 pm

I think it’s ironic that Tech would be much better off if UGA had a better record this season. If UGA was a one or two loss team coming into the last game of the season, it would look much better for Tech to beat that team than the very mediocre UGA team that we have. In that way, UGA screws Tech again. This is a small victory but I will take it.

Stat Man

November 9th, 2009
3:57 pm

I repeat:
1) Tech (ACC) is the highest rated 1-loss team in the nation
2) There are more ACC teams in the top 25 than SEC teams

Time for the ACC to quit apologizing for anything, there’s nothing to apoligize for!!!

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
3:59 pm

Paul H

If you are going to Cherry Pick which teams in the SEC warrants respect when you beat them, then let’s just tell it like it is…

The SEC as a whole is not great. Without LSU, Bama, and UF, the SEC is a moderately stronger Big East

Doug

November 9th, 2009
4:00 pm

tech cant hang

Man are you an idiot.
Miss st lost to lsu by 4. They turned the ball over 4 times. Lsu had o to’s and still barrely won. Gt rolls over miss st and wins by 11. Fla gets a bogus non td called a td and wins by 10. Who have you beaten in the sec? Oh that would be vandy and ark. Ark is in last place you dolt. Not miss st. And sc with it’s 4 conf losses. And you barely beat these teams. You are no better than miss st.

Buzz

November 9th, 2009
4:01 pm

Just win baby! Everything else will sort itself out in the way it is supposed to be.

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
4:02 pm

tech can’t hang

Stop being a hater. The acc went 6-4 against the SEC last year in the regular season and the acc is .500 right now against the SEC this year.
GT will beat UGA, Clemson will DESTROY Carolina, and FSU will lose to UF and the ACC will finish 4-3 against the SEC in the regular season this year. Deal with it

Akhil

November 9th, 2009
4:02 pm

Forget about reaching the NC game this yr.
Focus on whipping the rest of our opponents this yr, and winning the bowl game convincingly (no matter who its against..hopefully, someone from the SEC). Then Georgia Tech will get the respect they deserve. GT will start off with a high ranking next yr, and if most or all of our playmakers return, then we have a legitimate chance at the NC next yr.

All Liquored Up

November 9th, 2009
4:03 pm

I think he hit the nail on the head. The ACC is GARBAGE!

Bobby Y

November 9th, 2009
4:04 pm

CPJ will not leave GT for another college football team, at least not for a long time. Switching conferences is like changing lanes in heavy traffic trying to pick the one that is moving the best, once you change lanes the one you were in blows by you. I think that the “best conference” title is always shifting, maybe not year to year but certainly decade to decade. Currently the SEC is the perceived best conference but who’s to say the ACC won’t be the best in five more years. Everything evolves. Paul Johnson will stay at GT and make them an elite team. Many people forget that Georgia Tech football was considered among the best in the country for many decades under coaches like John Heisman, William Alexander and Bobby Dodd. While GT may not be perceived as a powerhouse today Paul Johnson has brought hope to Atlanta that they can become one AGAIN (not for the first time but AGAIN, do your due diligence and wikipedia GT football, there is a lot of history, sucess and tradition that most people are to ignorant to realize)

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
4:05 pm

Booger Man will show up before long with his all CAPS!

tech can't hang

November 9th, 2009
4:05 pm

doug: bottom line. There’s not a chance for Tech to play in the title game. Just watch it play out. Is there any expect that would pick the ACC as a stronger conference (even though this year is down year for the bottom of the SEC) than the SEC? No way. Tech will narrowly beat UGA if they win and it’ll all be over. Just watch.

dobearsbare

November 9th, 2009
4:06 pm

To me, Tech’s hopes, assuming the Jackets win the rest of their games, hinge on Texas. I’m sorry, but the Longhorns aren’t losing. They have an axe to grind with Texas Tech, which isn’t as good as it was last year, and while A&M has a history of causing problems for the Horns, it’s hard to imagine that happening this time around. Which is good for Georgia fans, whose worst nightmare might be having Florida play GT for the national championship.

Old Gold '71

November 9th, 2009
4:08 pm

Here’s my thinking: First, Georgia Tech must just keep winning. Period. That’s the only think that it can control, and if the Jackets continue to win, a few ahead of them will fall. Win out in the regular season, win the ACC CG, and win the Orange Bowl (which will be against a credible opponent, and I would expect Georgia Tech to finish in the final BCS poll’s Top Five teams.

It is about earned respect, and this is a year when Tech can begin to establish itself among the nation’s better programs, for the first time in a long time. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and there’s nothing wrong at all with going 13-1 and finishing in the Top Five. I believe Paul Johnson’s teams will be Top Ten squads year-in and year-out, and the Jackets’ day will come. It’s all about producing a reputation built on consistent winning, and hopefully it starts this year.

Hillbilly Deluxe

November 9th, 2009
4:09 pm

I don’t really follow college football but this Tech team has sort of grown on me.

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
4:11 pm

Doug

“tech can’t hang” is just a pusillanimous UGA fan that cannot stand the thought of GT competing for its FIFTH national title while UGA is barely above .500 (maybe 5-5 after Sat).

Paul Johnson will rattle off atleast 2 more victories in a row against UGA and he will compete for a BCS National Title WAY before Richt does because whether GT is 11-0 going into the UGA game or 0-11, FLORIDA is UGA’s daddy and as long as UGA is in the SEC east with florida, they will never be more than 3rd in the SEC

Remember1990

November 9th, 2009
4:11 pm

GT was ranked 7th in the November 6th poll and was given no chance of moving up, yet we were #2 by the first week in December. Stranger things have happened and will again.

Jaded Jacket

November 9th, 2009
4:12 pm

The ACC as a whole sticks. No doubt about it. But when the PAC10 sucked the voters didn’t treat USC with disrespect. It’s clear that the SEC teams play considerably more cupcakes than the SEC. Seems like the SEC schools have played cupcakes for the last two weeks. What’s up with that?

Jaded Jacket

November 9th, 2009
4:14 pm

The ACC as a whole stinks. No doubt about it. But when the PAC10 sucked the voters didn’t treat USC with disrespect. It’s clear that the SEC teams play considerably more cupcakes than the ACC, but no one seems to notice. The SEC schools have played cupcakes for the last two weeks. That’s not very interesting football this late in the year. What’s up with that?

Left Handed Complement

November 9th, 2009
4:14 pm

I think there is a feeling that GT’s team is a kind of a fluke b/c they use an offense that is not widely used and that is why teams lose to them. Not true, but some people just don’t like CPJ’s offense.

Josten

November 9th, 2009
4:15 pm

Attention GT athletic department:

Please contact us as soon as possible regarding your “We Beat WF” rings. We are having trouble getting the “Whew” to fit on the side with Paul Johnson’s sweaty face.

Alabama Jack

November 9th, 2009
4:17 pm

Beat Duke. We’ll talk about everything else next Sunday.

m

November 9th, 2009
4:18 pm

Enter your comments here

gcs

November 9th, 2009
4:18 pm

You can compare conferences all you want but what Techsters need to realize is that they have something TCU, Cincy and Boise do not: a loss. And it wasn’t a close FG-at-the-end-of-regulation loss. It wasn’t a blown call by the refs that made them lose. The Jackets lost 33-17 to Miami.

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Joe Fan

November 9th, 2009
4:19 pm

The SEC is simply a mediocre conference that just happens to have two undefeated teams because of very questionable officiating. You puppies need to quit whinning. You were lucky to win more than 2 games this year and next year want be any better. If either of the redshirt qbs were better than cox, they would have been playing long before now. So just keep getting those top ten recruiting classes.

Brad

November 9th, 2009
4:19 pm

The key problem in college football is mentioned in your article …”not sure what the voters think of them”. They should just eliminate the polls altogether. Even if they institute an 8 team playoff to a certain degree your still dependent on subjective assessments. People are ranked before season starts which is the baseline…and that’s wrong.

When it boils down to it forget strength of schedule..the voters will go for the marquee matchup to get the best ratings on Television and sell the most tickets. It’s a farce. There is too much money and college football is too big to be deciding their champs this way.

JacketFan

November 9th, 2009
4:20 pm

We just need to keep doing what we are doing. I remember this same conversation about the 07 UGAg team. We can’t control the BCS rankings, only our performance on Saturday. Winning championships takes time and this is only season 2 under PJ. We win an ACC championship and I will be over the moon. We win ACCCG and beat Georgia, I think this will go down as one of the great Tech moments in history and leave us sitting pretty for a real run at it next season. Let’s celebrate what we have accomplished before talking about playing for the NC. If it’s meant to be, then it will work out. Stay focused! Beat Duke!

Go Jackets!

To Hell With Georgia!

m

November 9th, 2009
4:20 pm

Enter your comments here

WE NEED A PLAYOFF!!

The BS-bcs stinks worse than any system ever developed by man. It is so ridiculous that it is insane that it is allowed to stay in existence.

This year is a perfect example. If we had a16 team playoff…not only would it be the most exciting sporting event in the history of the world…but also every team would be treated fairly and the results ON THE FIELD would stand for itself. No one’s idiotic opinion would count…expecially not these stupid and biased poll voters.

Get rid of the BS-bcs NOW.

Tide Rising

November 9th, 2009
4:21 pm

Jeff,

The ACC’s losses to the Colonial Conference really hurt them in the computer polls. Losses to other conferences such as the sec didn’t help either. But on a % basis how much did the colonial conference losses hurt the ACC in the computer rankings? Any idea or is there any way to tell?

m

November 9th, 2009
4:22 pm

Jeff…can’t you see?

WE NEED A PLAYOFF!!

The BS-bcs stinks worse than any system ever developed by man. It is so ridiculous that it is insane that it is allowed to stay in existence.

This year is a perfect example. If we had a 16 team playoff…not only would it be the most exciting sporting event in the history of the world…but also every team would be treated fairly and the results ON THE FIELD would stand for itself. No one’s idiotic opinion would count…expecially not these stupid and biased poll voters.

Get rid of the BS-bcs NOW.

bull-dykes

November 9th, 2009
4:23 pm

hey tech can’t hang –

You should be talking since the only thing you’re hanging is your bright red strap-on that rosie o’donnell gave to the entire bull-dyke nation!

let’s face it – you are a bull dyke. the bull dawgs are done.

TechGrad08

November 9th, 2009
4:24 pm

Tech can’t hang

If your powerhourses stop scheduling the likes of Charleston Southern, Troy, and Florida International maybe we’ll throw a few of them on the schedule. I think Tech’s scheduling shows it’s not afraid to schedule OOC opponents in BCS conferences – when will the might SEC follow suit?

Also, if you want to call out our games as meaningless because they were against your cupcakes, why don’t you analyze our performance against them versus anyone elses? Tech popped 8 TD’s on Vandy (no one else has scored more than 4) and 6 on MSU (only Auburn’s beat that mark, and no one else has put up more than 4). Yeah, we beat your cupcakes. We beat them better than you can.

GT-'93

November 9th, 2009
4:24 pm

Just win!

Jackets Keep Rollin'

November 9th, 2009
4:24 pm

Sorry Jeff this is a dumb column for the following reasons:

1. Basically you are saying what media robots have been saying all year: the SEC is great, everyone else sucks. Its like groundhog day with the same awful article over and over. Why even discuss the BCS if all that matters is the SEC and no one else is worthy? Please try to be more original.

2. Okay we get it — you guys sell more papers when the SEC wins. But how bout just covering us objectively? How does that hurt your bottom line? Hell, may be you’d sell more papers.

3. I think a lot of true college football fans scratch their heads at the BCS wondering — what in the world does it have to do with my conference: the ACC? How bout you just cover Tech and the ACC and not bother us with things we cant control? If it is determined before the season even begins that we are not allowed to play for a championship…can we just talk about something else?

Stat Man

November 9th, 2009
4:26 pm

I don’t EVEN want to go into the computer rankings. Anything that had Iowa as it’s #1 team all year until they lost to NORTHWESTERN last week is clearly short a RAM chip or two.

I’ll go along with what Ali said when told the computer match with him against Marciano went to Rocky – “That computer must have been made in Alabama!”

bull-dykes

November 9th, 2009
4:29 pm

jacketfan –

that’s true… We bull dykes can take on the entire uga team and embarrass them.

just look at our qb – joe cox. need I say more?

DawginLex

November 9th, 2009
4:30 pm

I still think Cox is not the problem overall with the Dawgs. The defense hasn’t held up their end of the deal numerous times.

You just have to wonder when the talent level will overcome the coaching. Is there a magical day like that ahead?

Tech’s offense is what it is but the defense is lacking, especially at linebacker and the secondary except for burnett. I predict a blowout of duke and two wild ones with UGA and clemson, both of those games having 70+ points scored.

panama city beach mike

November 9th, 2009
4:32 pm

No matter who your favorite team is, someone will get the shaft in the final rankings. It seems like the one thing almost everyone can agree on is a playoff system. And just because the NCAA has been doing it wrong for all these years is no excuse to continue it.

MINIMUM 8 TEAMS – TO HELL WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
4:33 pm

A friend of mine just finished detailing Josh Nesbitt’s car. He’s a big dawg fan or was. He said he was pulling for Tech now,because,he said.And I quote. The dawgs suck….And,yes I am from Greensboro Ga. and proud of Josh. Went to all of his HS games. There used to be a logo on the front of the school that said NEVER QUIT.Josh has followed that principle to the T. They remodeled the front of the school and never put those words back up. Don’t know why. GO JACKETS-TOHWG

Hunter

November 9th, 2009
4:33 pm

tellem whiley! Go Jackets!

Stat Man

November 9th, 2009
4:34 pm

Something just dawned on me reading this entire thing.

The pot has officially started calling the kettle black – how many times do you read in a UGA blog the woof woof woof’ers telling the “nerds” to get a life of their own and quit commenting on UGA’s story.

Well what do you know – look at all the Dawg’s with their tails tucked between their legs commenting on a TECH blog.

SWEET!!!!

StraightJacket

November 9th, 2009
4:35 pm

“Tech can’t hang” : Thank you for back-handedly confirming my point. The BCS guys that Jeff cites in his blog / article talk about the “PERCEIVED” SEC strength, and that is where objective facts leave their case. If I believe all that deception, then you would have us all believing that the WORSE SEC Teams can beat the best of any other conference, and that just isn’t the case. In fact, I would argue that the bottom 6 of the ACC would beat the bottom 6 of the SEC head-to-head by a 4-2 margin. Hey, … don’t take my word for it – look at some objective measures (Sagarin, # of ranked teams, head-to-head, etc.).

Even worse: When the Top 2 SEC teams play OOC “powershouses” like U-T Chattanooga and Florida International, it is like a bye week. NO risk of losing, injury, back-ups get experience, etc etc.

GT has no such cupcakes on our schedule… unless you consider the “mighty” SEC teams of Vandy and MSU to be cupcakes. But then: Combined with their OTHER cupcakes, that’s who Bama & Vandy played IN conference!!!!!!!

The SEC has about 4 teams: ONLY 3 of those are ranked.

Bottom line: Teams that lose THIS late in the season NEED to move down …. if they LOSE this late, then they OBVIOUSLY aren’t championship-worthy teams. And I don’t care who they played, how many fumbles they had, who was injured, or which SEC ref crew they had …. a LOSS is a LOSS … and they should be TOAST until 2010.

-SJ

J Clay

November 9th, 2009
4:36 pm

I said it yesterday and will say it again…even if you had beat Miami you would only be 4th in the standings – with a move to 3rd once UF and Bama play….I hope 5 teams remain unbeaten so there is more talk of a playoff…those 5 plus: loser of UF/Bama, Tech (if they can run the table), and either Oregon/LSU/Ohio St would make for a good 8 team playoff..

Atlanta Jacket

November 9th, 2009
4:37 pm

Just beat Duke.

However in regards to the ACC: GT, VPI, UM, UNC, FSU (with Ponder) & CU can play with any team in the country. The ACC will get to prove it’s mettle in November with the 3 traditional state rivalry games. However, UF got lucky with Ponder being out for the season. CU & GT will be favored to win against their vaunted SEC speed opponents.

If I had to guess the championship will be UT vs AL and UT will win.

If GT wins out, wins the ACC and their bowl I am very happy with a top 5 finish two years removed from CG.

jacket3

November 9th, 2009
4:38 pm

Bobby Y you get it…most don’t. Tech began the “legends”. CPJ’s goal is to again make them into a national power – his way. How many Div 1-A schools go for it every 4th down or so it seems. CPJ is a playmaker.

Yeah Saturday’s game was tight. Wake has a good team. Skinner is a true NFL quarterback – reminded me of Mattie Ice. Same reads, same reflexes, same demeanor. OMG.

Most fans will not accept the fact that GA Tech has a good team or a great Coach. You don’t put up 1000 yard seasons with fluff. It takes a whole team. So step by step, brick by brick we again are rebuilding. Top Ten in 2 seasons? Not bad at all. But what CPJ has done in 2 years is remarkable in any league with any school.

GA Tech Insider

November 9th, 2009
4:39 pm

I’ll throw one more iron in the fire – so far, GA Tech and Florida have played 2 common opponents; Mississippi State and Vanderbilt.

GA Tech scored 42 points against Mississippi State and 56 against Vanderbilt, with GA Tech’s second team in most of the 4th quarter against Vandy.

Florida, on the other hand, scored 29 points against Mississippi State and 27 points against Vanderbilt, the very week, I might add, that GA Tech just laid those 56 points on Vandy.

Before anyone starts, I realize Florida has a “great” defense, but Mississippi State put up 19 points on them, and their style of offense is similar, but not nearly as prolific, as GA Tech’s. I know, I know, Tebow had some turnovers…

My point is that Florida, the nation’s #1 ranked team, has been easily outscored by GA Tech in both of their common opponents this season, including the game they played immediately prior to Florida playing them, and with GA Tech taking their first team out the 4th quarter.

Any team can lose on any given day. We saw that last Saturday.

81BME

November 9th, 2009
4:39 pm

BCS is irrelevent. The only advantage to being top 25 is for those of us who are out of state the GT score shows more often on the ticker at the bottom of the TV screen. Bottom line is that there is no such thing as a National Champion at this level and never has been. BCS can choose one; AP can choose one; AJC readers can choose one. All three have same right and ability to choose. GT needs to beat Duke. If they do that, then they get to play for the ACC Championship. Beyond that is a matrix of BS that isn’t worthy of the teams it pretends to rank. (As always, To Hell with Georgia!)

A real stat man

November 9th, 2009
4:43 pm

Techgrad08,

Tech popped 8 tds against Vandy more than any sec team. True. Its also true that Vandy scored 31 against Tech more than they could against any sec team. Matter of fact I don’t think Vandy hit the 20 pts mark against any sec opponents and I think 3 sec teams held them under 10 pts.

Stats are a 2 way street idiot.

Jefferson

November 9th, 2009
4:47 pm

We don’t give a damn about any damn man who don’t give a damn about us.

THWG and puppet sportswriters.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
4:48 pm

A real stat man: That only proves that our offense is better than anyone in the SEC and our defense is not as good as FLA or BAMA or LSU …….

Dooley's Cardiologist

November 9th, 2009
4:49 pm

If any of the 4,5 or 6 lose (at least one will), then Tech will move up. But WINNING is all they can control, so control it like it’s your job!!

RT

November 9th, 2009
4:50 pm

Please don’t start telling us how there should be a playoff to make things “fair”. There are 100+ teams and with a playoff, maybe 15-10 games played per team. There is no “fair” way to judge between good teams with similar records with no common opponents. I know everyone at ESPN wants one, but there are two reasons for that.
1) ESPN would make HUGE cash from a playoff.
2) Yankees don’t understand that college is a different game and philosophy than the pros. (ESPN is in a suburb of NYC)

Conference play promotes rivalries within the conference and loyalty to your conference in non-conference games. This works because SOS is important to your own team’s success. WIth a “real” playoff, no one will care about conference championships and will eventually ruin the college game. If you want to see the best players in the nation, tune in on Sunday. If you want to cheer with your friends through thick and thin for a bunch of kids who probably will never play again after their 22 birthday and essentially play because they love it with 10-90 thousand of your friends, go to a college game.

GT will not play for the NC. I don’t care, I’ll watch them in the Almond Bowl if I have to.

calvin

November 9th, 2009
4:51 pm

Tech can reasonably strive to get to the Orange Bowl
and win it, and to beat Georgia. Those things may
not happen, but they are reasonable goals.

Getting to the BCS title game this year is not a
reasonable goal, considering the loss to Miami.
And winning the BCS title game would be unlikely
because of all the Tech weaknesses that we have
seen. After what happened with Wake, Tech can’t
even be confident of beating Duke.

Leave the BCS for next year. This year is shaping
up well enough, and could end with a top five
ranking, ACC championship, and state championship.

Reality Check

November 9th, 2009
4:52 pm

I saw a comment where GT has played no cupcakes unless you count MSU and Vandy. I do know that GT opened with a Division 1AA team Jacksonville State which would qualify and the worst two traditional programs in the SEC.

Although Tech has a good offense the defense is still mediocre/bad even in wins and Florida WILL NOT did not give up over 40 points to Florida State. GT might score 30 points on UF but would give up at least 40 and take a beating.

Alan

November 9th, 2009
4:56 pm

It’s simple and Jeff refuses to answer the obvious. If texas were to somehow lose the big 12 game or maybe any game, they are not going to play for a Nat Champ. It’s doubtful they will lose but possible. So GT is in the Nat champ game IF we win out AND texas cincy and likely tcu loses.

Yes they're being disrespected

November 9th, 2009
4:56 pm

Boise State’s and TCU’s schedule to some extent lends itself to easy wins. We play 1-2 cupcake games a year and the rest quality BCS conference opponents while they play 1-2 quality BCS conference opponents and the rest are cupcakes. Considering how most teams coast through cupcake games even when mistakes are made and good teams occasionally slip up in competitive games (see Alabama-UT and Florida-Arkansas and LSU-Miss St.), it’s really unfair to rank TCU and Boise St. higher than BCS teams. Who have they beat to get there, 1 or 2 good teams and a bunch of cupcakes!

Yellow Fuzz

November 9th, 2009
4:57 pm

Styles :

“Oh, how sweet it will be shattering your hopes and dreams on November 28th!”

WE said the same thing to your azz last year. And you’re right, it was special! (45-42)
Especially the 3rd quarter beat down come back (26-0)

Yellow Fuzz

November 9th, 2009
4:57 pm

Bankerdawg,
Are you really “with” DawginLex?

TechMD

November 9th, 2009
4:58 pm

Just beat duke. All this speculation is meaningless. We should make our case on the field. If all the unbeatens above us stay unbeaten they deserve it more than us. If not, then we can start talking.

Jefferson

November 9th, 2009
4:59 pm

Who gives a fat rat’s ass about a National Championship? A bunch of posers, just finish the drill and let the pundits feed.

Brian

November 9th, 2009
5:00 pm

BCS…who cares. Win out, beat Clemson, Orange Bowl. Done. If the remaining 6 unbeatens win out it will be the perfect storm for the BCS “system” to fail.

OneGoodYear

November 9th, 2009
5:02 pm

Jesus, one good year and you guys forget about the last 10. It’s really hilarious. Teams will figure out how to stop your high-school scheme…you are a gimmick team…that’s why you will not make it to the National Championship. Enjoy your success while you have it though. Good Luck!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
5:04 pm

OneGoodYear: You said that last year!!!!!

Jim

November 9th, 2009
5:06 pm

I enjoy the conjecture about Tech playing in the BCS championship game but it is not going to happen. I’ll be satisfied if Tech can run the table. Duke is improved, UGA and Clemson are hopping mad about previous Tech games and Cincinnati(or Pitt) will have a month to prepare for the TEch offence. Beating those four will be extremely difficult and make for great season.

Mike T.

November 9th, 2009
5:08 pm

Please don’t insult railroad conductors by refering to the nerds as engineers.

Tony in Johns Creek

November 9th, 2009
5:10 pm

I’m a Georgia grad… so who cares about Tech, but in this case, it’s total BS again … here we are near the end of the year and we’re going on opinion, and perception and bias… rather than settling this once and for all on the field of play. THAT’S the AMERICAN WAY…. competition rather than it being a beauty contest… I think Tech could hang with Florida and Alabama due to their complicated offense…. but, that’s just another opinion which we all have them… As much as I am a fan of football Saturdays in the fall, i HATE this silly system of defining who plays in the big game … it’s just silly.

Paul H

November 9th, 2009
5:10 pm

GT Que and all GT fans — congrats on being decent for the first time this millenium. You still have a long way to go before you start comparing yourselves to established teams (like half of the SEC).

Dan

November 9th, 2009
5:13 pm

tech can’t hang, didn’t know you got to choose which teams were actually a part of your conference. the fact is, the SEC is terrible and anyone with a brain knows it. UF has played ONE ranked team all year. If the conference was so frickin’ brutal, they would not have gotten through it with only one ranked opponent. Bama has played two, and one of them was an ACC team. Who are we supposed to be scared of in that conference. It’s just a bunch of big stadiums with idiotic fans. And the only reason they need those big stadiums is because you can fill out the application in crayon and still be admitted.

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
5:13 pm

OneGoodYear

I guess UGA is going to figure out Florida’s gimmick offense too eh?

2008 Facts

GT racked up 45 points and 428 yards be’twinx the hedges
UF racked up 41 points and 374 yards in the annual ‘UF is a better program than UGA Bowl’ AKA The world’s largest outdoor cocktail party

You are a jealous hater with a 5-4 program. Deal with it

Josten

November 9th, 2009
5:14 pm

GA Tech Insider, so you are saying that Tech would beat Florida? Because Florida didn’t have to beat either Vandy or Miss State by a bunch of points to stay #1. They had to win and stay healthy for more important games. Tech had to put up the points to impress somebody.
BTW, how many did Vandy score on you guys? Also 14 of those 19 that MSU scored were TD passed by Tebow (and they will probably count for his Heisman total TD’s). You guys seriously need a defense. Then you would be in the conversation this year with the 1 loss. That’s the difference. UF, Bama, Texas, Boise and TCU all have pretty stout defenses. Cincy not so much.

Kay

November 9th, 2009
5:14 pm

Just focus on beating Duke!
One game at a time!
Actions speak louder than words!

SEC Fact Check .com

November 9th, 2009
5:15 pm

Isn’t it nice that UGA is not even in the conversation . . .

Three next “H. Walker” running backs; top 5 recruiting classes every year;

“Play the Freshmen, Play the Freshmen!”

SEC Fact Check .com

November 9th, 2009
5:15 pm

I agree with Kay . . . BEAT DUKE!

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
5:16 pm

Paul H

Correction – There are only 3 teams in the SEC and UGA is not one of them. Everyone else in the conference is nothing more than a moderately stronger Big East

Tom

November 9th, 2009
5:17 pm

Sagarin Strength of Schedule (SoS) rankings…..(games played to date)….

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. UCLA
4. Virginia Tech
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Southern California
8. San Jose State
9. Oregon
10. Georgia
11. Miami (FL)
12. Georgia Tech
13. Virginia
14. Wake Forest
15. Stanford

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
5:18 pm

Paul H

These are facts, not opinions:

2008 SEC 4-6 vs the ACC in the reg season
2009 SEC 2-2 vs the ACC in the reg season with 3 more games (two of which the ACC will win)

lefty fielder

November 9th, 2009
5:18 pm

Schultz . . . you must have leather skin to put up with some of these SA comments.

Josten

November 9th, 2009
5:20 pm

Also we don’t think you will be placing another order for yor “We beat UGA” rings. That’s because of the defense that you have. But go ahead and send in your “we beat Duke”, “We beat Clemson Again” ring order and we will process those right away.

Do you want the car or bee logos on these? We broke the Paul Johnson face mold the other day so we won’t be using that one anymore. I guess we do have something in common with God.

Old Gold

November 9th, 2009
5:22 pm

Boise State, Cincy or TCU would go 6-6 in the ACC.. there’s no d@mn way they’re better than GT.

Tech will advance to 5 in the BCS

November 9th, 2009
5:22 pm

1st Tech focus on Duke – well stated above, then focus on the dawgs it will all take care of itself.
2nd the light weights in 4,5, and 6 will all lose before season end.

Finally M. Sagarin smokes some pretty stout stuff to believe that nonsense of strenght of schedule.

81BME

November 9th, 2009
5:24 pm

I think Jeff is saying that the “experts” believe GT is at best the number 7 team in the country regardless of what happens to 1 thru 6. If 1 thru 6 prove to be wrong, somebody leapfrogs GT into those slots. The only way GT changes that is to blow out Duke, UGA and the Atlantic Division opponent by margins that convince “voters” that we are better than they thought. Low margin wins keep us at 7 (at best). Another loss drops us close to 20. This has been a great season and this is a fun team to watch. They can compete with any team in the country and as a fan, that is all we can ask from them. What the “experts” and others think does not change that at all. Beat Duke! To Hell with Georgia!

SEC Fact Check .com

November 9th, 2009
5:25 pm

Paul H. . . . . When did UGA last win a National Title verses GT?

“….like half the SEC.” What happened to the “on any given Saturday” SEC montra? Perhaps it should be modified to say. “on every third Saturday, after our OOC game and our game against the lower half of the SEC”.

Taco

November 9th, 2009
5:25 pm

Who gives a crap about this nonsense. Any true Tech fan just wants to beat the Hairless Dawgs. All this other stuff is like the clear coat they try to sell you when you buy a car. USELESS!!!!! BEAT GEORGIA and rub their snouts in big steaming pile and live ahppy for another year.

Taco

November 9th, 2009
5:28 pm

Tom is right, UGA has a tough schedule. They just can’t do anything with it. They just rolled over and took one in the tailpipe!

SEC Fact Check .com

November 9th, 2009
5:28 pm

Taco . . . You are absolutely correct!

TechGrad08

November 9th, 2009
5:31 pm

Real stat man-

Not really sure why I deserved that idiot comment, as I was responding to someone else’s comment (take note: without the name calling). Which balanced stats would you prefer I use instead? Since GT posted more points but also allowed more, let’s look at margin of victory. Our 11 point margin over MSU bested UF’s by 1, and our 25 point margin over Vandy also bested UF’s by 1.

In fact, MSU lost by a wider margin to us than they have to any SEC team other than Auburn. No one’s outscored Vandy by as much as we have. Where is my point invalid? You prefer perhaps Turnover margin? Time of possession? Yards gained vs. Yards allowed? How many different stats would you like me to cite while refuting the argument that Tech’s victories over “SEC doormats” don’t really show anything?

AustinBuzz

November 9th, 2009
5:32 pm

I think Tech needs to focus one game at a time. if we are 11-1 after the regular season, that’s a fantastic season. It’s already been a great season, I just want to “finish the drill” (to borrow from PJ). If 11-1 isn’t enough to crack the top 5 so be it. I predict Cincy loses one, and there’ a built in loss for Bama or Fla. That should be enough to get us to #5. I’ll take #5 in the 2nd season of the PJ era. They’ll be more like it, Jackets.

Farsider

November 9th, 2009
5:32 pm

I have a huge amount of respect for CPJ and Tech this season. I think they might have the best offense in the country. But this bubble will burst sooner or later. I think that UGA or Clemson, or both will offer nasty surprises to the Jackets. Tech’s defense and ST are weak for a top-10 team. The top three teams have shown that they can still beat a top-caliber opponent even if their offense is not on its game. Tech cannot afford a sub-par day from their offense.

OZZFEST

November 9th, 2009
5:33 pm

A 10-2 ACC Champion Tech team is still inferior to an 8-4 SEC straggler, as you shall find out on the 28th.

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
5:35 pm

81
who would jump them? there is no one who can jump us. ohio st with 2 losses one really bad? oregon with 2? lsu with 2? pitt who plays the big east? if tech wins out, there is no one jumping us. we will move up if teams like tcu cincy and texas lose. and boises last 2 games are really really bad opponents. gt will leap them if we win out. the key team is texas.

Mike T.

November 9th, 2009
5:42 pm

BEAT GEORGIA and rub their snouts in big steaming pile and live ahppy for another year.

Its gonna be harder than you think,don’t matter how many losses the Dawgs have.

KB

November 9th, 2009
5:43 pm

Just keep on winning and let the BCS take care of itself.

a

November 9th, 2009
5:44 pm

Don’t hold your breath. A couple of years ago, Georgia was ranked #4 in the BCS going into the final week. Two teams in front of GA lost which should have put GA in the championship game. LSU, ranked lower than GA going into that final week, leap frogged GA and wound up in the BCS championship and GA ended up in the Sugar Bowl. I realize GA did not win the SEC that year, but if the BCS rankings meant anything, GA should have been in the game. The BCS rankings don’t mean a thing. It is a flawed system and needs to be changed.

Paul H

November 9th, 2009
5:44 pm

GT Que and every other delusional Tech fan – beating your ACC chests with victories over Miss St and Vandy doesn’t qualify you to make a claim as a real conference. I guess maybe the SEC should start scheduling it’s top teams against Duke and NC State every year.

A top tier SEC team and a top tier ACC have only played once this year, and what happened again?

How many ACC teams are in the top 5?

How many national championships has an ACC team won this decade?

How many times has an ACC team been ranked #1 – at ANY point?

Exactly.

FORACEL

November 9th, 2009
5:45 pm

We need a PLAYOFF system in effect,that will encompass the top 30 teams,which will only add an additional 3 games including bowl games.This bs of saying any conference is better than others,is a bunch of hogwash.Let’s stop all posturing,and to hell with the N.C.A.A. Just have the coaches vote on the 30 best teams.Let’s get it on.

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
5:45 pm

Mike T.

Every GT fan knows this will be a very tough game

What UGA fans need to worried about is this fact….

CPJ, a coach who has much more intestinal fortitude than St Richt, knows this will be a tough game too and the jackets will be well prepared

FORACEL

November 9th, 2009
5:45 pm

Enter your comments here

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
5:49 pm

Paul H

And with all of that, you went 4-6 versus a ‘lesser’ conference and you will finish this season 3-4 vs the acc

If you took the time to read my posts (but being a UGA fan, I seriously doubt if reading comprehension is one of your strong points), I have been consistently said, “The SEC as a WHOLE is NOT A GREAT CONFERENCE”

There are 3 teams in the SEC (LSU, Bama, and UF) The rest of the SEC is NO better than the pac 10, big ten, acc, or big east.

Alan

November 9th, 2009
5:49 pm

a
That is my point. You didn’t play in the champ game. Sorry but they are not going to allow a team to play for everything when they can’t play for their own conference. That’s why lsu jumped you even though you were likely better than them. Just shows under this flawed system you have to win your conference. An 8 team playoff would fix all of this.

I am really hoping gt wins out, texas loses their conf champ, tcu and cincy lose and the people who vote have to make that decision who goes. They can’t take texas. It would have to be GT.

kerryb

November 9th, 2009
5:56 pm

Hey Tech morons, I’m tired of you idiots coming on blogs for every sports topic and suddenly think that anyone wants to talk about your Yellow Backetts. I was reading a nice blog on Mike Smith and it did’nt take long for a Yellow Backett idiot to make a comment like anyone cares about that stupid trade school team. You have a little bit of success in 20,000 years and you think everyone cares. Well, we don’t just shut up!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
6:02 pm

Little disgusted with your team,aren’t you? kerryb

GT Que

November 9th, 2009
6:02 pm

kerryb

And you prove this point by coming on here an picking a fight?
5-4 must really be taking it’s toll on you. Jealousy is a weak emotion, you’re going to have to learn how to over come it.

Good luck with the War Eagles.

MattRyanforPrez

November 9th, 2009
6:03 pm

Why would anyone assume that a one-loss Texas team would fall below GT, another one-loss team.

That, will never happen. TCU and Cincy, maybe. But not if Texas and GT have the same amount of losses and are both conference champions.

Tech Says

November 9th, 2009
6:06 pm

Listen

1st off it is a fact Tech has no defense and at times they have looked more like a # 25 team rather than a top 10 team. If I was a head coach and played them it would be pass 85% of the time b/c they can’t stop the pass.
2nd Tech will never get credit for any big win, look at the facts behind this statement ; they beat Va Tech when they were # 4 and got passed in the polls by Oregon, they lost to Miami but they beat the team that beat Miami (Clemson). Other then this they haven’t played anyone that carries weight.

You cannot pound Virginia & North Carolina and struggle with Vanderbilt, Wake Forest & Mississippi St. Then you see Jax St. on the schedule also !

I am the biggest Tech fan in the world but we should be happy we are where we are. Tech will never get any respect as long as the ACC is down and the conference dosen’t get back up by playing the Jax States of the world. We have to schedule harder out of conference games, the truth is most in conference games are not hard games, or should I say they shouldn’t be !

Paul in RDU

November 9th, 2009
6:08 pm

Hey kerryb
If you noticed, this blog by Schultz is about GT’s rankings – the one about Mike Smith and the Falcons is a different post.

gtfanfrom1951

November 9th, 2009
6:08 pm

just win the next game it all you can control!!!!!!!!!!

kerryb

November 9th, 2009
6:12 pm

Let me bring you guys down to earth a little. You barely beat a Clemson team earlier this year and needed a bogus holding call to do it. If you remember they were totally beating you in the second half and threw a pass down to the 10 yard line with about 2 minutes to go on a drive that would have given them a touchdown lead. A hold was called that no one could see on the replay. So you got saved by the ref’s there. You’re all excited about an OT win over a Wake Forest team that Clemson beat the snot out of 2 weeks ago. Seems to me that you better not be finding a place for that ACC trophy yet because that team has gotten better since that first game and you better hope you don’t play them. And don’t think because I am bringing them up that I am a Clemson fan because I’m not.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
6:14 pm

Your just an idiot dawg fan! kerryb

TECMO SUPERBOWL SUPERSTAR

November 9th, 2009
6:17 pm

I was so happy when I heard that Paul Johnson wanted to come to Tech back in 07′. I want to thank Coach Johnson, the Ga Tech staff, school, and every player on our team for working so hard. More than ever, I am proud to be a Yellow Jacket fan.

kerryb

November 9th, 2009
6:17 pm

Paul in RDU, if you can read my first post. I said that I was reading a blog on Mike Smith when one of your idiot buddies came on that blog and thought anyone wanted to hear about GT. It’s getting where you can’t read any blog on the AJC without some Tech idiot coming on there and thinking everyone wants to hear about waht they think about Tech or some sarcastic remark about how no one thinks GT is good. Well, I don’t care!

Otis

November 9th, 2009
6:19 pm

SEC’s top two are the separator. ACC’s top 4 match up well with SEC’s next 4 –

#7 GT v #9 LSU
#12 Miami v. #28 Auburn
#20 VA Tech v #30 Tennesssee
#24 Clemson v #40 Ole Miss

These would all be very good games. ACC might win 3, probably 2, definitely not 4. Match up the SEC’s top 4 with ACC’s top 4 and ACC maybe wins one.

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:23 pm

Jeff is right. A 1-loss team won’t do it. The AP poll, however, is still done *after* the fictional NCS game, I believe.

Lost to Miami, take those lumps. Don’t lose to Duke.

Paul in RDU

November 9th, 2009
6:24 pm

kerryb – If your neighbors on one side are noisy, do you go to the house across the street and yell at them?
That makes as much sense as coming on one blog and throwing insults at people because of what somebody posted on a completely different blog.

On top of that – you can’t avoid noise. You can avoid reading things you don’t like.

Paul in RDU

November 9th, 2009
6:27 pm

Otis – that’s cheating. You can’t ignore the top 2

mowreck

November 9th, 2009
6:30 pm

Remember when we won the coastal last time guys. “Thank god and greyhounds he’s gone” as m would say. … Gailey let them rest on their laurels. You still have to play someone (probably Clemson) and will be tough to beat them again. So lets just take them one at a time. Just hope we can get a rush on that Dook QB, cause he is tough. I remember one game he completed 30 of 40 passes. I don’t care who he was playing that is a lots of completions. We just need to get our big defensive tackle POed and sic’em.

Okeefe/GT

November 9th, 2009
6:30 pm

Who cares? Just keep winning and let whoever figure it all out.I’m just happy to be where we are for a change AND who we have for a coach.Beat Duke then the mutts then whoever else comes along.I’m already happy.

TOptionSpread

November 9th, 2009
6:32 pm

according to the AP poll there are four ACC and Four SEC in the top 20. So where is the dominate conference? Both have good teams and bad teams. They both have middle of the road teams. I think 12 on 12 they match up pretty even. Their good teams may be a little better (top 3) but the rest mach up pretty close.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
6:34 pm

Your delusional Otis………

Nate

November 9th, 2009
6:35 pm

Reality Check, did you even look at the SOS rankings above? Clearly, the ACC has a harder strength of schedule than every team in the SEC except UGA. If you are UGA fan, I congratulate you for taking on Okie State and Arizona State. My point is that teams like Bama and Florida shouldn’t be talking crap when they are playing Charleston Southern. That would be like Tech play Georgia Perimeter College or something. Please lay off. Better yet, get some tickets to the Georgia game and watch the Coach Paul Johnson show on how to play football.

Otis

November 9th, 2009
6:35 pm

Pual H-

Tech will play any of the SEC teams. They had Ole Miss scheduled for a home and away in ‘10 and ‘11, but Ole Miss exercised the right to opt out. Guess they didn’t want that tough a game for a non-conf. opponent. Tech repalced them with Kansas. I have seen lists where Tech has Alabama scheduled in ‘13 and ‘14, Auburn in ‘17 and ‘18. If you are an SEC team, you can stick Duke on the schedule in ‘15 as an easy win, then find that Duke has a stud team in that year. Works the other way, too.

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:37 pm

Do they teach classes in mysticism at UGA? It’s amazing how many of their fans “know” what is going to happen in advance.

Bet they don’t teach quantum mechanics, either.

groundfog

November 9th, 2009
6:38 pm

Bama is going to lose to Auburn and Florida,Cincinnati will lose to WVU,TCU will lose to UTAH or at Wyoming,Texas will lose to Texas AM or Nebraska,

Boise State is the problem! Mark this post!

Coach Chitwood

November 9th, 2009
6:38 pm

One game at a time…that is all that matters. Duke, then those Dawgs, then the ACC Championship game. The rest will take care of itself!

81BME

November 9th, 2009
6:41 pm

Bryan – LSU and USC come to mind. I think 2 loss teams with higher recognition could jump GT if they finish strong and GT keeps winning ugly. Not saying I agree – just believe it could happen. Sports media is driven by large markets and GT is not a big name program. Lots of people in the country are looking at GT like we are looking at Boise State and Cincy. It’s one thing for a voter to consider that there is no reason not to put us at 7, but it is another thing altogether for that voter to decide we should be 2. It’s going to take some 1st place votes to move us up and I don’t think we will get any unless we start blowing teams out for 4 quarters. That has not been our MO. Just beat Duke – the score doesn’t matter. If we want more that the Orange Bowl, we have to crush UGA and (Clemson.) We should win both games, but not by large margins. My point is that there is nothing better than the Orange Bowl. The BCS Championship Game just tells us that one of two teams is better than the other that night. It is just another bowl game and we are suckers for accepting it as anything more.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
6:42 pm

We played our trap game Sat. GT will pound Duke just because of their poor showing against WF…………

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:43 pm

John Kinkaid on 680theFan said today that here were 10 to 15 thousand noshows at UGA homecoming, upping earlier estimates. I’m guessing weren’t conveniently local to Athens. If y’all want to see some good football next year in the Atlanta area, you should be able to get tickets to Tech games.

TML

November 9th, 2009
6:44 pm

1. Tech needs to concentrate on Dook and Dook only. Thad Lewis is a good QB, the game is in Wallace Wade, and Tech can’t afford to go to sleep until the deed – winning the Coastal – is done.

2. I find it humorous beyond belief at the Muttlanders trying to poke holes in what the Jackets have accomplished this year, especially facing AUghtta-burn next. The U. of Gimmicks Again is staring 6-6 (maybe even 5-7) right in the face and they’re worried about trying to pull the real college football team in the state down. Projection demonstrated on a mass scale. Go clean up your mess in Athens and get your craziness in order and stop trying to take the sting out of the upcoming pole-axeing you’re gonna get on the 28th.

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Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:45 pm

“Jesus, one good year and you guys forget about the last 10″

Thanks for the compliment but Jesus doesn’t post here.

Dawg Fan 74

November 9th, 2009
6:52 pm

GT reached their peak in 1964.

mowreck

November 9th, 2009
6:52 pm

I think 16 teams is toooo much m. BUT, an 8 team playoff I would love to see.

Ford

November 9th, 2009
6:52 pm

Since GT thinks they are competitive again then they should come back into the SEC. Surely by now their little feelies that got hurt years ago when they were informed they were the reason the SEC was so weak, have now subsided. So bring your yellow bellies, er Yellow pants, back into the SEC girls. That’s the only way the Insects will ever get any respect. The ACC is known world wide as being a weak conference. It’s life. And while that’s the best place for weaklings (like GT) if they (GT) really think they are strong, then bring it into THE conference that counts — SEC.

solid gold dancer

November 9th, 2009
6:52 pm

kerry crier b, you’re still posting. Go back to the Mike Smith you blog troll. You say we are happy with an OT win against Wake…..no, we are happy with a WIN against Wake.

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:55 pm

kerryb – Thanks so much for obsessing and recording those Tech games. If things all work out to perfection, Clemson can take out their immense rage over a penalty on Tech in the ACC Championship game.

Speak Easy

November 9th, 2009
6:58 pm

Jeff, I disagree with the experts. has anyone noticed how close we are in points to Boise State? If we win out then we will def. jump them at the least.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
6:58 pm

Ford: If GT came to the SEC, GA would still be a cellar team…………

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
6:59 pm

“THE conference that counts” losses. To ACC teams.

Navigator

November 9th, 2009
6:59 pm

If Tech could hold a #7 Rankings through the Bowl Games, that would be great. Who cares if you can go higher on a week to week basis, just like if Tech loses any of their remaining games, they will drop down 18th or 19th. No one perceives their program as elite as this point, so Tech needs to put a string of top 10 finishes, then they will have more impact on the end of year rankings. Remember how hard it is to get the rankings now, well that changes when your program is preseason top 10 ranked.

Navigator

November 9th, 2009
7:01 pm

And be happy that they are there now, hope the heck they can hold on to it.

U-no

November 9th, 2009
7:04 pm

Taco,

You hit the bulldog right square in the butt! I am a life-long Yellow Jacket and will gain pleasure in only one thing… Beat the dog snarf out of the Puppies! Anything else we gain in addition is just icing on the cake!

I personally don’t think CPJ is concerned about all the BCS bull-dump. He is taking it one game at a time. Duke is next on the hit list and he will have the Jackets ready to take them to task this weekend. Georgia is not on his mind.

We have an awesome offensive attack, a defense that gets the job done when it counts, a pretty good special teams unit, and what is probably more important than anything, a strong belief in Coach Johnson and his way of playing the game. The players trust him and gained even more respect for him in the last few minutes of overtime against Wake Forest. Facts, figures, stats, and percentages can all go to hell in a big dogbed for they mean little or nothing when the toe meets leather and confidence takes over. Go Jackets, THWG!

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
7:05 pm

Texas won’t lose it’s conference championship. That’s what experts and mystics would say. In a quantum world, it’s possible. But the BCS has probably rigged game that for Texas to win, so would say the conspiracy theorists.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:05 pm

Ford: There would be FLA,BAMA,LSUand GT as the top 4 teams in the SEC. In that order probably…..

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:07 pm

81bme
Lsu is not going to surpass us if both win out. Nor is usc. The polls aren’t putting them ahead now and they won’t unless we lose.

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
7:12 pm

Duke is averaging 3.3 ppg more than their opponents. The time of position difference is less than 1 minute.

Duke’s SOS is #93. Tech’s is #12.

Beat Duke!!!!

81BME

November 9th, 2009
7:14 pm

I hope you are right, but you assume life is fair.

THE CATHOLIC HAMMER

November 9th, 2009
7:17 pm

The BCS system is no more superior than the old human polls. Even a tournament would only provide one result: “tournament champion”. There is no way to establish who is the best team without each of them playing one another dozens of times.

With that being said, the most important thing right now for GT is beating Duke this coming Saturday. In the long run, what should be important (every year) is winning the Orange Bowl. If we go undefeated every year, winning the Orange Bowl, and never winning a BCS title, I would be just fine with that. I would like to see the ACC and all the other conferences pull out of the BCS and let it become the domain of the SEC. Those two deserve one another.

DamYankee

November 9th, 2009
7:17 pm

I’m glad you used the qualifier “perceived” when describing the mythical SEC. As far as GT making it to the NC game, do you really think the folks that coughed up the $$billions$$ to the NCAA would allow that to happen? The BCS is bogus, it’s all politics and Benjamins, and the pre-season rankings are just another mechanism to hand-pick the teams the $$ boys want, get ranked top ten preseason and you pretty much have to tank to drop out of it (see UGA ‘08) . And BTW, how long is the Big East going to keep their guaranteed Bowl game, didn’t they get that before all their good teams bolted to the ACC? The Mountain West is a stronger conference than the Big Least, with no Bowl guarantee.

mash a bug

November 9th, 2009
7:17 pm

About to hit the ceiling? Tech is long past hit their peak…. you bozo

Dances With Whelps

November 9th, 2009
7:18 pm

1. Tech will beat Georgia by two touchdowns.
2. Georgia will win one of its last three games and be a 6-6 bowl team.
3. UGA will reduce ticket prices next season.
4. Bulldog coaches will be gone; only question, which ones?

YellowJacket

November 9th, 2009
7:19 pm

If you’re not for a playoff you’re a candy a$$. That’s all there is to it. That’s most of the SEC.

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:20 pm

81
The schedule for both teams won’t allow for it. What allowed LSU to jump Ga was getting to the title game while Ga sat at home. LSU won’t be playing a conf champ game. GT will if they win this week. And they will be playing a likely top 20 team in Clemson. Lsu has crap teams left in La tech, Ark and Miss. Usc has Stanford–who lost to wake–Ucla(4-5) and Az who is good. That’s it. Oregon losing hurts USC. They have no chance at passing GT if we win. The only issue could come if Texas loses. We will jump Tcu or Cincy with a loss as they play weak schedules. But if Texas loses their conf champ, and GT wins out, there is no way they put Texas in the title game when you lose your conference. They probably would if they lost to say a&m at the end of the season. That would be wrong too though since GT’s only loss is to a top 15 team and their loss would be to a bad 4-5 loss team. It’s still unlikely but with only 2-3 teams needing to lose, and 3 games left, anything is possible.

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:21 pm

DREAM ON HATS

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:22 pm

One more negative for texas. There are only 2 ranked teams from that conference right now. And texas’ out of conf schedule was as pathetic as Fla and Bama’s.

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:23 pm

DREAM ON HATS……..3 LOSS TEAMS DONT MAKE IT

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:24 pm

Wonder when you would show up ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
7:25 pm

The BCS conspirators owe Texas one, I think. That round-robin 3 team Big-12 thing last year. But, the great minds (or mob bosses) invoked the UGA rule that you have to win your conference championship.

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:27 pm

Another comment was made and I would like to respond since I didn’t see Schultz respond.

If it does happen and I know it’s a big if, but if Cincy, Tcu and Texas all lose, and GT wins out, it’s gonna be GT in the Champ game versus an sec team. The only way not is if Texas loses closely and it’s not the big 12 champ game. Then they will probably screw GT and put texas in even with their lousy schedule. But if Texas were to lose the Big 12 title game, they are not going to play for a Nat title. There is no way it’s any other team if all the above happens. Boise’s last 4 games are against real bad teams. If GT beats duke, ga and then a ranked clemson, they will put them in the game.

GO TECH

November 9th, 2009
7:27 pm

I just hate to see somebody like boise and cincinnati even ranked. Boise should be in Division 2 A or the NAIA with the teams they play and the Big East without Miami, B.C. and VPI is so weak. They need to make sure these 2 schools are scheduled with a southern in a bowl, so it’ll prove their so-called BCS challenge

MattRyanforPrez

November 9th, 2009
7:28 pm

To all the GT fans: This is the 2nd year of paul johnson.

College football teams are notorious for a second year bump for new head coaches (ie. Richt in 02)

Do you all have short memories? Dont you remember the severe beat downs UGA has handed TECH recently (14 out of 18)

UGA owns Tech, owns em. So were havin an off year (or two), you aint the top dog in GA.

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:29 pm

HOW BOUT IT #1 HAT…..MISSED ME HUH

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:30 pm

Yeah! Boogie Man

Delbert D.

November 9th, 2009
7:33 pm

It’s a nail-biter in that Big-12 North. Kansas State (6-4) and Nebraska (5-3) down to the wire. They meet on Nov. 21.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:33 pm

Hey Boogie Man! How’s that job working for a GT Grad?

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:34 pm

IF IF AND BUTS WERE CANDY AND NUTS……..WELL YOU TICKS KNOW THE REST OF THE JINGLE DONT YOU?………GAYT FOR YOU AND ME CAN HUM IT………

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:35 pm

And if GT had beaten Miami, we would still need a Texas losing to Miami only matters with TCU and Cincy.

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:35 pm

I THINK I NEED TO GO BY BOOGIE MAN……SOUNDS SEXIER THANKS HAT!

BOOGER MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:37 pm

AND IF AND IF AND IF HAHAHAHAHAHA!

RamblinA

November 9th, 2009
7:37 pm

Boise State has played NOBODY this season. The only ranked team on their schedule is ranked behind the only team we have lost to. They shouldn’t be anywhere near a top 10.

THWG and THWESPN.

Angus

November 9th, 2009
7:37 pm

At this point GT doesn’t deserve a sniff at the MNC – as CPJ would probably say “1 is more than 0″ (as in losses).

But when I compare Florida to GT, I do get irked by the system. Let’s say Florida wins out, but loses in the SECCG and GT wins out through the ACCCG, who deserves to be ranked higher?

We all know Florida will be, but if you look at the schedules that is pure BS.

Florida will have gone 1-1 against ranked teams with 3 wins over FCS teams and no conference championship. GT will have gone 3-1 against ranked teams with one FCS win and have a conference championship.

And before you SEC die-hards go screaming about how tough the SEC is, pick any strength of schedule ranking system you want, GT’s plays a tougher schedule.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:37 pm

Yo Dog got no bite Boogie Man!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:39 pm

Your welcome! Boogie Man

Sunshine

November 9th, 2009
7:39 pm

Is UGA even relavent, especially when our game against Duke is bigger than anything they could bring on Nov. 28. Good luck with Cox, and the deweller cellar dogs!

J Clay

November 9th, 2009
7:41 pm

GT For You and Me

Congrats on a very good year…I would put you 4th in the SEC this year. Flip your rank with LSU in my opinion…Still – a very good season to you…

One question for all Tech fans – do you realize you would be 4th in the BCS even if you had beaten Miami? There needs to be a playoff…in fact a playoff would especially benefit a team like Tech – with an offense that teams do not see often and have a hard time preparing for in 1 week…

Anyway, good luck to you the rest of the way…As a Georgia grad – always better for both teams in national perception when both teams are good – unfortunately we are not holding up our end this year…

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:42 pm

New poll out: GA is ranked #1and boy I do mean RANK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bryan

November 9th, 2009
7:43 pm

Angus
You are missing the point. IF gt wins out AND texas, cincy and tcu lose, it won’t matter where fla or bama is. One of them will have lost their final reg season game and will NOT be ahead of GT. They will not allow a rematch of the sec title game for the national championship. So GT needs to win out, hope texas cincy and tcu all lose and then they would be in the game. It’s not that farfetched.

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:45 pm

THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT……NOW LEAVE MY CAPS LOCK ALONE….ITS MY TRADEMARK, OK

willie

November 9th, 2009
7:45 pm

I’m a huge GT fan but there is no way we deserve to play for a championship, even if we win out. However, Boise St., Cincy and TCU don’t deserve it either. Unfortunately, I believe it should be Texas vs. the Fla/Bama winner even though I hate to say it. GT just needs to get into a BCS bowl game…that would be a monstrous season for us!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:46 pm

Way to go Boogie Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:47 pm

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE SWEAT DUKE?

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:47 pm

THANKS GT

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:48 pm

Beats me Boogie Man. We will crush them!

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:49 pm

IM SERIOUS GT ,CLEMSON LOOKS BETTER NOW…….THEY SHOULD OF PUT 56 ON FS

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:49 pm

Your welcome!!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:53 pm

Clemson is good,but not as good as GT. That game could go either way. The only good thing is ,it’s a neutral field. I think we win on a neutral field or at home as per the last game with Clemson….

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:54 pm

MY PREDICTION……….CLEMSON 17-21 OVER NC STATE……..24 OVER VA…….21-24 OVER SC…..OR THEY COULD SHOW UP AS CLEMSON….THE BETTER MAKE HAY THIS YEAR,CJ GONE NEXT YEAR

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
7:55 pm

TIGERS TRAVEL WELL ,ESP TO FLA,ALWAYS DO

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:56 pm

I think your prediction is dead on……..

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:57 pm

GT also travels well. The game will be a tossup…….

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
7:58 pm

But,we have to beat Duke first…….

mash a bug

November 9th, 2009
7:59 pm

tech sweats duke because they know they are loser nerds

Angus

November 9th, 2009
8:00 pm

Bryan –

As much as I’d like to see GT in the MNC, that’s not what I’m complaining about – and I truly do not believe GT is one of the best two teams in the nation.

I’m whining because preseason rankings and ESPN talking heads dictate that a one-loss, ACC champ GT will never pass a one-loss, non-SEC champ Florida despite Florida playing a schedule that is closer to Boise St’s than GT’s. That’s all.

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
8:00 pm

BWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, MY DOGS SUCK!!!

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
8:00 pm

GOOD TO HAVE CIVIL TALK GT…..CATCH YOU ANOTHER DAY

bubba

November 9th, 2009
8:01 pm

If Tech beats Ga., then they would be 3-0 against mighty SEC. Don’t say they played weak SEC teams, because it’s the same teams, FKLA. and Ala. have been beating. I would like to see some of those mighty teams ahead
of us play the ACC. Get a dose of Clemson, FSU, Miami, and VT. Don’t knock the ACC, please schedule them if you will, instead of Tennessee Tech, and or UL-Monroe, or whoever.

mash a bug

November 9th, 2009
8:01 pm

please quit drinking the kool-aid, its making you even more crazy….THERE IS NO WAY TECH PLAYS FOR THE NC….

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:01 pm

That’s funny Boogie Man!!!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:02 pm

See Ya Boogie Man

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
8:03 pm

NOT ME GT, MY DAWGS MAY SUCK ,SURE BUT I DIDNT SAY THAT

Paul in RDU

November 9th, 2009
8:04 pm

Wouldn’t it be nice of GT and UGA fans acted like this:

http://boomerandsooner.barkingcarnival.com/2009/11/08/husker-hospitality/

But it will never happen

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:07 pm

mash a thug: Please give us your pros and cons on the GT vs UGA game….

BOOGIE MAN FROM HARTWELL GA

November 9th, 2009
8:08 pm

SOME A-HOLE USING BOOGIE MANS NAME AT 8:OO

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:08 pm

Your to much Boogie Man!!!!!!

ACC=Awesome Conference Can-Do!

November 9th, 2009
8:10 pm

The ACC is horrible this year. As a BSBCS hater, I truly hope TCU or Boise gets in way before an awful ACC team. BTW, that Tech defense is so awesome! Beat Wake and Riley Skinner! What a great job! WhooHoo!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:11 pm

Your a laugh a minute Boogie Man!!!!!!!!!

bug squacher

November 9th, 2009
8:12 pm

hey tech, wake forest scared you, didnt they? duke will scare you more…. the dawgs will pound you…get ready for your beat down…. trade school nerds

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:14 pm

Bug Sucker: If you repeat that enough you might actually believe it……..

timmycat

November 9th, 2009
8:15 pm

TCU and Cincy will lose before the end of the season. If we win the ACC we’ll jump Boise. So we’ll at least be #4 if we win out.

The only way we get in the chamionship is if one of the top three lost in the last week.

Wow

November 9th, 2009
8:17 pm

wow!!!! gt is gonna cry come nov.28th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bob

November 9th, 2009
8:18 pm

GT wont make it because UT will win out and only one of the SEC teams will finish with one loss, even an undefeated TCU deserves to get in over GT, the ACC is just really weak and if their teams keep losing then nothing can help them at all.

pilgrim

November 9th, 2009
8:18 pm

pre – 15
1 – 15
2 – 14
3 – out
4 – 25
5 – 22
6 – 19
7 – 12
8 – 11
9 – 10
10 – 7
Obviously Tech has earned this. Probably some weaker teams higher.

Joe Schmoe

November 9th, 2009
8:19 pm

Boogie man, did you just refer to yourself in the third person at 8:08pm, or are you just trying to play like someone took your handle.

Limelight

November 9th, 2009
8:19 pm

What is a bug squacher? Yeah the dogs will pound Tech. In fact, I think the dogs should be ranked at least #6 in the BCS right now, ahead of Tech, since they’re so good.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:20 pm

Yeah! Crying from all the laughter after the game!!!!!!!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:23 pm

That’s Bug Sucker,Limelight

JoD

November 9th, 2009
8:24 pm

Yea, crying that UGA got embarrased with all those 5 star studs. What is UGA doing with all that talent that comes in every year. What a waste.

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:28 pm

I’ll bet Richt prepares for no other team but GT for the next 3 weeks!!!!!

JoD

November 9th, 2009
8:29 pm

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:28 pm
I’ll bet Richt prepares for no other team but GT for the next 3 weeks!!!!!

And if he does, he will lose the two game before hand as well. What a dumb move if that ever realisticly happened.

CJDawg

November 9th, 2009
8:31 pm

As a real Dawg fan, yeah, this year has been exceptionally tough. No doubt. As a fan of football in Georgia, I am pulling for Tech to do as well as you can. I hope to see Tech in as big a bowl game as possible. I love the way CPJ has turned things around and the way Tech tells you what is coming and nobody can stop it. Keep grinding and winning fellas. Good luck the rest of the way.

BravesFan79

November 9th, 2009
8:32 pm

This is why college football sucks, a team can have a Miracle run like Boise State did, and still have NO shot at a title! Im a GT and UGA fan, perhaps if you other fans would turn your hatred of your rivals, to a hatred of the BCS (and the schools that support it), and boycott going to the games, then something might get accomplished…. and College football can join College Basketball, NBA, NHL, MLB as a Big time sport!!

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:32 pm

I think he would rather lose those 2 than get beat by GT again. The Dawg nation couldn’t stand it!!

GT

November 9th, 2009
8:35 pm

You’re wasting your time with these silly speculations about Tech’s BCS rankings. They will not survive the rematch with Clemson in the ACC championship game, rendering all this wishful thinking moot.

Joe Schmoe

November 9th, 2009
8:37 pm

GT For You And Me, there would be no way I would want to get beat by two unranked teams and only win against one top #7 team. That is a loser mentality, I dont think the dogs win against GT, but there is no way UGA should overlook Aub and Ky.

67Cheers

November 9th, 2009
8:37 pm

I don’t give a RA about the BCS. There is only one championship that means anything. Get serious bloggers. THWG for Greyhound’s sake.

JoD

November 9th, 2009
8:39 pm

GT

November 9th, 2009
8:35 pm
You’re wasting your time with these silly speculations about Tech’s BCS rankings. They will not survive the rematch with Clemson in the ACC championship game, rendering all this wishful thinking moot.

Really GT, if you as a dog fan are going to get a GT handle, atleast be more creative about it. Dope.

Careful Who You Listen To

November 9th, 2009
8:39 pm

There are many so-called “experts”. Many of these “experts” said that Coach Johnson’s offense would never work in a BCS Conference. After he disproved them last year, then many of these “experts” said that his offense would not work in the second year beacause the opponents were now familiar with it and would be able to stop it. He has certainly disproved them again. My point is that many of these “experts” are not nearly as smart as they think they are. Coach Johnson believes in his team, and his team believes in Coach Johnson. They believe that they can win every game they play. So, my advice is let Georgia Tech and the teams currently ranked ahead of them play the rest of their games (instead of listening to what the “experts” say) and let’s see where Tech is ranked in the final BCS rankings.

Gailey Can't Coach

November 9th, 2009
8:40 pm

I’m sure someone has already pointed this out, but LSU LOSES & MOVES UP from #9 to #8…Is there any further proof needed to demonstrate how BROKEN the BCS system really is?!?!

However, this also proves that GT is NOT out of the NC game by any means…It just means that whoever is pulling the switches behind the curtain needs to pencil them in at #4 before the Dec 5th SEC CG and then leapfrog them over Texas to #2 after they run all over the Atlantic Div team in Tampa the same day…Stranger things have happened!

Remember…..LSU LOST and moved up….

GT For You And Me

November 9th, 2009
8:40 pm

I agree with your statement Joe. Considering the situation at GA. Richt could possibly lose his job if GT wins again……..

But Jeff Schultz. i have question

November 9th, 2009
8:46 pm

Jeff, I don’t agree with your point and I think the fact that GT is the highest rated 1 loss team in the country is evidence that your point is weak at best. VT is the highest rated 3 loss team in the country. Both schools are from the ACC.

We will see, at the end of the season, including Florida and Alabama if any 1 loss team is rated higher than GT. Hopefully, assuming GT can win out, you will have the integrity to come on here and reference back to this article and say “I am sorry. I was wrong.” Most people in your profession, most people period, don’t have integrity though.

Once again, GT will be the highest rated team in the country if it wins out regardless of what the Tide and Gators do. The Gators have a substantially weaker schedule than GT and Alabama has a slightly weaker schedule.

Good luck seeing the truth, so far I think you aren’t Jeff.

GT

November 9th, 2009
8:55 pm

JoB
Another techster struggling with basic English. Don’t be such a stereotype. My initials are GT, by the way, and I went to Tech and Clemson.

woulda shoulda coulda

November 9th, 2009
8:55 pm

the sec according to ESPN et all = the woulda shoulda coulda conference

nothing like having a dog in that fight eh ESPN. why would ESPN defend the acc when they have a billion bucks riding on the SEC. they should change the name of sports center to Saturday SEC Highlights. i think that if ESPN reversed the situation and showed ACC highlights over and over and over and over again like they do for the sec it the acc would be the top dog or at the least it would even the playing field.

-but for the refs the SEC would have ZERO undefeated teams this week

-the acc had a winning record against the sec last year and will probably have a winning record against them this year…. AGAIN.

anybody notice they have been silently plugging for a repeat of the sec championship game for the BCS championship. couldnt be that they have a dog in this fight could it.

dis n dat…

-why is it when a top team in the SEC barely wins against an sec bottom feeder its because the sec is so strong yet… when the same thing happens in the acc its because the conference is weak. now what kind of logic is that?

statisticly speaking ala sagarin rankings…

-the sec rankings/sos has the 1/42,2/25 and 9/17 spots in the top 30.
-the acc has the 8/12,11/4,13/11,15/23,and 27/41
-gt,vt and miami all played a tougher schedule than ALL 3 top sec teams.
-as i see it the sec is top heavy and the acc is stonger than the sec top to bottom. so much for the sec strength eh?
-the top 3 conf and their ave sos are… pac12/11 ,sec/31,acc/33.

so when you consider that the pac 10 had the toughest schedule by far and when you see 5 acc teams in the top 27 and only 3 sec teams…. when you consider the the acc has beat the sec heads up last year and look to do it this year the question comes to mind….

why is bama and fla no 1 and 2 when you consider that the sec is clearly 3d when you look at the stats?

because the voters depend on ESPN to have unbiased converage of the weekend results in order to make a reasonable guess as to rankings.

is it any wonder that the rankings really jumble themselves at the end of the year? that is when the head coaches really pay attention to what is going on an not rely on ESPN and their propaganda.

GT= liar

November 9th, 2009
9:03 pm

a true tech fan would not say what you said.

if you are all for clemson than say so.

if your really a dawg than say so.

dont lie and discredit your opinion further.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 9th, 2009
9:24 pm

According to Ford, whoever the hell he is, (and I quote) “Since GT thinks they are competitive again then they should come back into the SEC. Surely by now their little feelies that got hurt years ago when they were informed they were the reason the SEC was so weak, have now subsided” Ford needs to read his football history and get his facts straight. Tech was not driven out of the conference; Tech left voluntarily, and at the time were still in the top 3 or 4 in the conference, UGAG not having yet quite emerged at that point in time. Tech left the SEC because of Dodd’s perception (right or wrong) that the SEC had stacked the deck against him regarding recruiting, and because of Bear’s refusal even to acknowledge the Darwin Holt – Chick Granning incident in 1961. Tech did try to rejoin the SEC in the mid to late 70s, but Dooley (yes THAT Dooley) and the two Mississippi schools vetoed the move, in spite of Bear’s sponsorship of Tech’s application for re-entry.

wreckmaniac

November 9th, 2009
9:29 pm

Tech’s won enough nat champs to suit me. We just haven’t beaten the dawgs enough. Thats the prize. This other stuff is fluff.

wreckmaniac

November 9th, 2009
9:32 pm

The only reason Tech plays football is to beat UGA. Nat champs don’t matter. We should schedule UGA 12 times a year and drop the other stuff.
I don’t care what the nation thinks about Tech football. Beating UGA is the only reason to play. If UGA is in love with their national standing thats their problem.

TechMan

November 9th, 2009
9:33 pm

Florida and Tech have played two common opponents. Tech has fared better with both. There are two more yet to play out, UGA and Florida State. So far Tech looks better.

ConvertedTechFan

November 9th, 2009
9:37 pm

Georgia Football is a joke. Miami would beat Georgia, Clemson would beat them, Riley Skinner and WF would have a hay day against that secondary. Jump on the Paul Johsnon boat and quit whining dawg fans.

son_sir

November 9th, 2009
9:44 pm

“If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas”…. Let’s worry about what GT has control over in the immediate future. Beating Duke. If you insist on a larger perspective for argument’s sake, just consider that Tech has a very realistic chance of finishing as a top 5 team in year two of a completely new system. Truly remarkable !

If you were at the 2008 GT spring game, you, like me, should be in awe at how far this program has come in such a short period of time. What a testament to the value of hard work and determination by GT’s players and coaches. If the BCS chips fall into place and Tech is fortunate enough to win the next three, then it will be wonderful, but one step at a time is the only way to go.

Lou Vales

November 9th, 2009
9:45 pm

I don’t even mind you comparing wins against Vandy as something of a crucial component in deciding who is tougher.

As a Florida grad I have ONE thing to say–BEAT DUKE!!!! I don’t want Miami in an ACC Title Game, and PLEASE I don’t want any late Wake Forest histrionics to be necessary.

Forget about Georgia, for now, and BEAT DUKE!!!

ConvertedTechFan

November 9th, 2009
9:47 pm

oh by the way speaking of the SEC. Didn’t tech have a two game series with auburn a few years back. I may be mistaken but didn’t Tech win both years. Beat 2 sec teams this year. Looking at future schedules Tech has Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss scheduled.

GatorTIME

November 9th, 2009
9:52 pm

Kerry B- is that a dude’s name or a Chicks name???

Tom Shane

November 9th, 2009
10:02 pm

If Tech wins against UGA this year will they be getting baggette add-ons for those rings they got last year for beating UGA?

Paul in RDU

November 9th, 2009
10:03 pm

woulda shoulda coulda

You can’t use the Sagarin ratings (computer, no voting involved) to compare conferences, state that the the SEC hasn’t played the toughest schedule, that ACC teams have beated SEC teams and then say – so how can UF and ALA be rated at the top.
UF and ALA are rated 1 and 2 in the SAME Sagarin ratings you are using as the basis for your argument.
A little bit of logical dissonance there.

I get as tired of the “SEC is #1″ cheast beating as the next GT grad but in the big scheme of things, who cares? It’s what GT does on the field that counts.

Nativebird

November 9th, 2009
10:07 pm

The experts are right. Leading college teams in the modern era need a quarterback than can actually throw a pass.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 9th, 2009
10:08 pm

So Tom Shame. of UGAG lucks out and beats Tech this year, whose number will they retire? In case you don’t remember, that’s what they did when they beat Tech in 1957 after having been clobbered by the Jackets for EIGHT (count ‘em, EIGHT) years in a row.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 9th, 2009
10:10 pm

Nativebird, I guess that’s why the mutts aren’t considered a “leading college team,” since they don’t have a QB who can throw a pass. Even Fat Matt had his share of interceptions, one in particular I remember against the Jackets last year in the cesspool.

jesse james

November 9th, 2009
10:12 pm

I’m a Georgia fan, but I like Coach Johnson. I was at a GSU game one time sitting about 4 rows behind the Eagle bench and on the kickoff coverage team an eagle player was called for a personal foul. As he came off the field he didn’t want Coach Johnson to see him, but guess what he got him. He grabbed his face mask and said boy you aren’t worth 15 yards. The players parents were sitting in front of me. The players mama said be quite coach and don’t talk to my son that way, the father said shut up Honey Coach Johnson’s right. He is a winner. Hell I wish he was President and you wouldn’t have what happened last week at Fort Hood, Texas. I’m a dog but I know the truth. See you in Atlanta in a couple of weeks.

Louis Skolnick

November 9th, 2009
10:14 pm

I say it is hard to compare Tech vs Wake and Clemson vs Wake. Totally different defensive schemes against the option. Apples and oranges. Tech creamed Clemson in the first half, and Clemson played better in the second half to make it a game. Tech got the W.
and btw, Win 6 games, doggs, so you can have a country Christmas in Nashville.

Okeefe/GT

November 9th, 2009
10:27 pm

Go get em Supersize,I’m with you all the way.I was around for the D Holt attempt on Granings life and Bears denial.i was happy then that Dodd got out of the SEC and I still am.What a bunch of whiners.

GT GRAD

November 9th, 2009
10:29 pm

How SWEEET would it be if FSU wins against Florida and then Florida wins against Alabama in the SEC Championship Game??????

The SEC deserves this end result! Ridiculous WEAK out of conference schedules AND the SEC officials altering the outcome of games……..this is why I say they deserve to fall out of contention at the last moment!!

Really not possible if SEC referees are in control of the FSU vs. Florida game. They have already proven twice they WILL do whatever is required to make sure both teams remain undefeated (too much $$$$$$ involved, they MUST make sure at least one SEC team reaches the NC game).

IF the struggling FSU team finds a way to beat Florida, I would be SHOCKED if the SEC officials would even allow Florida to beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game. They simply will not allow both of these teams to be left out of the NC game (regardless of the morals involved!).

The comments regarding the ACC vs. SEC strength is outright deceit; SEC is ranked #2 conference & ACC is ranked #3 conference.

Actual 2009 Strength of Schedules (based on games played thus far):

Florida is a ranked at a stellar #42 (WOW that is impressive!).

Alabama is respectable at #25.

GT has the #12 toughest!!!!!!

LSU has a tough #17.

VT has the #4 toughest schedule in the land!

Miami comes in at #23.

FSU has the #5 toughest.

TEN is at #32.

Auburn comes in at #48.

UGA has a very tough #10!!

These two “experts” are simply biased SEC fans (ESPN is chock full of them).

BartBuzz

November 9th, 2009
10:33 pm

“What ifs” don’t solve anything. BCS rankings hinge on Wins and strength of schedule. GT can only control Ws at this point. No matter what happens Coach Johnson has made GT football respectable again. I’ll take whatever comes. Even if we don’t get into the National Championship game, I won’t be too disappointed. Possibly going 13-1 feels so good after all those 7-5 seasons.

Beat Duke! Then worry about UGA. Coach won’t let the players look past Saturday.

wordy

November 9th, 2009
10:36 pm

ok word of reality. are you watching the same tech team. I love tech but this is not championship caliber. Tech is good but lucky. Tech vs Texas, Bama or Fla is ugly. come on Tech fans stop drinking the cool aid. we should stomp the dooookies but Clemson in the championship is going to be tough.

stadium history

November 9th, 2009
10:45 pm

Mike [November 9th, 2009 @ 3:21 pm]

“Now the insects can work on geting the correct number on there seating amount in Bobby dump stadium.”

First of all … and a usual comment for the mutts: nice English. Second of all, they do teach History at UGA don’t they??

Bobby Dodd Stadium the oldest and WINNINGEST stadium in Division I Football. It is the oldest continuously used on-campus site for college football in the southern United States, and the oldest in the FBS.

Most recently, the newly renovated 55,000 seat stadium was rededicated during the 2003 home season opener versus the Auburn Tigers on September 2, 2003 [a victory over a former regular SEC foe].

Some Notable Games @ Bobby Dodd Stadium over the years [as summarized on Wikipedia]:

October 7, 1916: Georgia Tech 222, Cumberland College 0

November 29, 1917: Georgia Tech 68, Auburn 7
[GT went on to become NAT'L CHAMPS]

December 8, 1928: Georgia Tech 20, Georgia 6
[GT went on to become NAT'L CHAMPS]

November 15, 1952: #4 Georgia Tech 7, #12 Alabama 3
[GT went on to become NAT'L CHAMPS]

November 17, 1962: Georgia Tech 7, #1 Alabama 6
[ended ALA's 26-game unbeaten streak ... QB = Joe Namath]

October 13, 1990: #15 Georgia Tech 21, #14 Clemson 19
[GT went on to become CO-NAT'L CHAMPS]

October 17, 1998: #25 Georgia Tech 41, #7 Virginia 38
[GT went on to become CO-ACC CHAMPS]

November 27, 1999: #16 Georgia Tech 51, #21 Georgia 48 (OT)
[Jasper Sanks fumbled and you know it]

November 1, 2008: Georgia Tech 31, #16 Florida State 28
[1st year under Paul Johnson]

October 17, 2009: #19 Georgia Tech 28, #4 Virginia Tech 23
[2nd year under Paul Johnson]

More to come …

GT loves its stadium and will always be more concentrated on Quality than Quantity.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 9th, 2009
10:48 pm

Okeefe/GT, I wasn’t there for that game, but I was a freshman at Tech in 1962 and was there for the sweet revenge. That was the most electric football atmosphere I have ever experienced, although the VT game this year probably comes in second. I can’t get over these ignorant jerks like Ford saying, or implying, that Tech got run out of the SEC. Hell, at that point in time, Tech had more SEC championships than the mutts even thought about having, not to mention national championships. What made Tech so great up until Dodd left was that we had a string of three INNOVATORS as head coaches. Although CPJ didn’t invent the triple option offense, he certainly has perfected it, and I would rank him as a master innovator also. I think the glory days are finally back, and I hope I live long enough (no reason not to—-lol) to see a couple more national championships on the Flats.

BS Patrol

November 9th, 2009
10:51 pm

SEC SOS = Emperor’s New Clothes. Tech, CU, UM, FSU, Wake, NC, NCS, UVA, VPI could beat any SEC team.

Stinger

November 9th, 2009
10:54 pm

I don’t expect us to win the National Championship this year. Especially since we haven’t blown anyone away this year as one writer wrote, except for the 2 SEC teams we played, which he failed to mention. I do expect us to be a major player next year for the title since we only have 6 seniors on scholorship. I can’t say the same for the dawgs.

Big B CH 99

November 9th, 2009
11:05 pm

Tech needs to win first, #1 priority right now: BEAT Duke1

Who gives a crap about the BCS Rankings, all U have to say to prove them bogus is : LSU moved up a spot after losing last weekend.

Drexel Gal

November 9th, 2009
11:41 pm

JFK’s assassination in 1963 still affects politics today. Georgia Tech’s leaving the SEC in 1964 still affects its standings today.

Dacusville Slim

November 10th, 2009
12:09 am

If Tech can’t beat the DOOKIES and the Slobbering Dawgs, they don’t deserve to be in the Top 10. Remember we got screwed by the AP in 90 and we will again if they don’t take care of business.

Frank Wren

November 10th, 2009
12:10 am

GT loves its stadium and will always be more concentrated on Quality than Quantity.

Thats good because there isnt a whole lot of quantity to go around. Even with the free hot dogs.

Frank Wren

November 10th, 2009
12:12 am

Remember we got screwed by the AP in 90 and we will again if they don’t take care of business.

No you didnt. Tech played a joke of a schedule that year. Colorado is the consensus champ that year.

Frank Wren

November 10th, 2009
12:14 am

except for the 2 SEC teams we played

Get back to me when you have Florida, Tenn, Auburn, LSU, Alabama on your schedule.

Not Vandy LOL

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
12:28 am

If Georgia Tech hadn’t left the SEC in 1964, it wouldn’t be sitting atop the ACC today as the only team in the conference with less than 2 losses and perhaps wouldn’t be #7 in the BCS and widely viewed as the BEST 1-loss team in the country…So, yeah…I guess it does affect its standing today.

Why be in the SEC when you can pick off their teams every couple of weeks out of conference? I would no longer follow Tech football if we were still in the same conf as the likes of Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, Kiffin, Miles — A collection of GUTLESS, VILE coaching staffs who were all absent the day they were handing out consciences, moral compasses and the commonly-accepted Rules of Sportsmanship.

They will devour each other and SEC Football will IMPLODE because of them…It will happen SOONER rather than later…Watch and see.

BS Patrol

November 10th, 2009
12:44 am

If Tech were still in the SEC they would still be at the top duking it out with UA & UT for the SEC championship just like they were when they left. Uog & UF would still be middle tier w/ Ole Miss etc,etc….

lfp6

November 10th, 2009
12:47 am

I think the consensus is that Tech has to take care of its own business before of a miracle shot at the bcs title; if Tech loses, its done.

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
12:50 am

“Get back to me when you have Florida, Tenn, Auburn, LSU, Alabama on your schedule.”

WOW…How strange that the Late and Once Great “Powerhouse” in Athens isn’t included in your list of “SEC teams to be feared”…Are things really that bad for the dawgs that teams are rushing to schedule them now as their Homecoming patsies?!?!

It seems that UGAG’s decision to stay in the SEC has certainly affected its standing today…Not even a single vote in ANY of the college polls this week. Can’t go much lower than that…Even TROY, Fresno State, Central Michigan, Temple and NAVY are getting votes….Wait a minute….Doesn’t NAVY run that high school offense that will never work in college football?!?

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
1:50 am

Frank Wren, get a life. Colorado was NOT consensus anything except national cheating champion in 1990. FIVE downs against Missouri and a phantom clipping call against Notre Dame should not have earned them anything at all. Tech has the same crystal trophy in its trophy case that is given out now for the BCS champion. Sorry you don’t like it, but tough s***t; it’s a fact. And if you think that a shared championship is not a real one, then tell that to Bama, USC, Michigan, and others who have shared them through the years. They will all probalby laugh in your face just like I am doing now (except I can’t see your whiny, butt-sniffing face)

Can't win for losing

November 10th, 2009
6:17 am

Ten years ago, before we started scheduling the big games early in the season, the ACC was regularly criticized for scheduling all its big games late in the season; the conventional wisdom was that, if you played the big games late, the team that lost had no chance to climb back into the NC picture, while, if you played the game early, the losing team had a chance to recover from the drop in the rankings. So, the ACC did what all the “experts” said we should do, and now the “experts” say playing our big games early eliminates us from consideration? Sounds like MSM looking for a reason for bias against the ACC to me.

However, I think the expert analysis is wrong. Certainly, we have no chance to move up without someone above us losing. However, there’s no chance we’d be ranked behind a one loss TCU, Boise State or Cincinnati, and I don’t think Utah would leapfrog us with a win over TCU. *If* we were to work our way into the top 5 before a Texas loss, then the human voters would likely rank Texas below us, even if the computers had them stay in about the same position. And, as so many have pointed out, Florida and Alabama aren’t going to play for the NC. A lot still needs to happen, but we’re in pretty good shape.

E=Mcx4

November 10th, 2009
6:27 am

Other than 3 to 4 teams @ the top in the SEC can anyone explain why the SEC is such a great conference. Year after year thier non conference schedule is cupcake U

judd

November 10th, 2009
7:21 am

tech is the highest-ranked one-loss team in the bcs. that’s something. if alabama or florida loses, i really don’t have a problem with them staying ahead of us.
if cincinnati, tcu, or boise loses, though, i think we should jump them.
but if we want to really be ranked with the big boys, we have to schedule some of them.
this season will be a complete success with an acc championship and orange bowl win (where we might be able to beat one of the big boys)…oh, and a win against them athens boys, too.

one more thing: sports illustrated does brackets each week with the top 16 teams playing in a mock playoff. it has #7 tech playing #10 pitt, with the winner probably facing texas. i say bring it!

Joshua

November 10th, 2009
7:26 am

7-1 in the past eight seasons…………………..HAHAHAHAHAHA

Joshua

November 10th, 2009
7:39 am

E=Mcx4

“Other than 3 to 4 teams @ the top in the SEC can anyone explain why the SEC is such a great conference. Year after year thier non conference schedule is cupcake U”

You pretty much answered your own question…..how many teams are stellar teams in the ACC year in and year out??? There are 3 teams in the Top 10 that are from the SEC year in and year out. How many Top 10 teams does the ACC have in this year in and year out???(I’ll help you out..just 1) The SEC has put 4 teams in the BCS Champ Game in the past 6 seasons. When was the last time the ACC put some one in the BCS Championship Game??(I’ll help you with that one as well……2000).

Ohh………you knock the SEC “cupcake” OOC opponents. How about Tech’s OOC opponents?? Jacksonville State, Garden Webb, SAMFORD, and Army to name a few……

Golden Hand

November 10th, 2009
7:51 am

If TCU, Boise and Cincy all lose next Saturday, and Tech handles Duke as easily as they should, Tech moves to No. 4. At that point, voters start to amp up their ACC respect (after all, the ACC has the No. 4 team). Also, Miami is likely to be Top 10 by the end of the season, which helps. Bama or Florida would drop past No. 4 with a loss in the SECCG, so if Texas also drops a game, Tech’s in the big one (assuming they win out).

This assumes a LOT of things going right for Tech. Winning out is by no means a certainty, and it’ll take a lot of planets aligning for Texas, Cincy and the two non-BCS schools to all lose one. But if all that happens, Tech on a nine-win streak will jump the Bama-UF loser, because of the “what have you done for me lately” effect.

Hey, what a surprise. m thinks we need a playoff, without considering any of the negative implications for teams and fans. Doubt he’s ever actually BEEN to a football game.

GT65

November 10th, 2009
7:51 am

Jeff, you cannot be serious with this article can you? You honestly believe that if TCU, Cincinnati or Boist State were to lose then Tech would not jump them in the BCS? I can see Texas, Bama or Florida losing and perhaps staying ahead of Tech, although in the pre-BCS days losing late usually meant you slid down the polls.

I’m usually with you on many things, but this is a pointless article.

UGA89

November 10th, 2009
7:54 am

The SEC has a three very good teams, but not great teams. There are no ‘great teams’ this season. The ACC has three pretty good teams as well. The media would have you believe differently –especially ESPN with their SEC television package. It’s all a farce as the SEC is not that much different than the ACC.

Kudzu

November 10th, 2009
8:00 am

Please, I love GT, always have and always will…BUT let’s stop all this talk about BCS, rankings, etc. Tech is where they should be. If they don’t finish any higher, so be it. There defense ranks badly. Special teams are suspect… Offense is hard to defend…Coach is very good at adjusting, etc. But I see some really big, FAST, defenders on some other teams that just might shut this offense down (Miami team).

It all, the team, just seems quirky… We need a SHUT DOWN defense…to really get noticed. Right now we’re just outscoring the other teams.

GT is not a dominant football team on both sides of the ball; a great record, yes, and that is enough for 7th…but let’s just win out…make dam* sure we beat the pups, win at Tampa, see what happens.

Joshua

November 10th, 2009
8:00 am

UGA89

ESPN is def not a homer for the SEC……………They usually love the Big 12 or the Big 12

Focus

November 10th, 2009
8:12 am

Beat Duke first.

Doug the Jacket

November 10th, 2009
8:23 am

Alabama or Flordia loses the SEC Championship game, Cincinnati loses to Pit, Boise loses one of their four remaining games and Tech is at their BCS celining? It’s too early to make that statement. More bulldog angst. More non-AJC support.

GT Fan

November 10th, 2009
8:28 am

Just win one at a time Baby! Everything else will fall in place. The System sucks and everyone knows it. That’s why you take one game at a time and pray.

Football’s BCS is the worse play-off system of all sports………damn joke.

stats

November 10th, 2009
8:35 am

To date GT defense has allowed 249 points
to date UGA defense has allowed 235 points

One is in the ACC (GT) and has 1 loss
One is in the SEC (UGA) and has 4 losses

SEC > ACC

dgroy

November 10th, 2009
8:48 am

You know, those two guys are probably right…..Georgia Tech is about as high as their likely to get; however, that being said, rankings are stupid and don’t mean squat. NowisthetimeforallgoodmentocometotheaidofFOOTBALL. We need a playoff in Division One. Send a letter to the president of your favorite school, boycott games , do something to get their attention. C’mon folks, computers? Please get real!!!!!

Bryan

November 10th, 2009
8:52 am

stats
Hey moron, tech has played one more game than your dawgs you dunce.
Our offense has scored about 100 more points than yours.

ACC is every bit as good as the sec this year.
Looking forward to crushing you in the flats this year.

Old Gold Britches

November 10th, 2009
8:54 am

Let’s concentrate on Doop, and then the mutts. There is no guaranteed win here. Throw out the records here for the mutts. This will be a battle. Jackets should win, but you have to come prepared to run the “Perfect Option”!

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
9:05 am

“We need a SHUT DOWN defense…to really get noticed. Right now we’re just outscoring the other teams.”

Well, outscoring other teams usually counts as a W, not an L. Wake, even though it APPEARED that they ran all over Tech and amassed huge yardage, rushed the ball 25 times for 28 TOTAL rushing yards over 4 QTRS…How is THAT not a “shutdown defense”?!? The SENIOR QB, who owns most of the passing records at WF, was 26 of 40 for 263 yds…And a majority of those were little 5-10 yd dumps to the sidelines because the receivers were given 10-15 yd cushions in the 1st half. Hell, I could’ve completed most of those passes!

There are 2 PROBLEMS that really need to be addressed:

1. First they were changing the defensive schemes every week or two…Now they’re changing them every HALF & this is beyond ridiculous! It makes our guys look like they don’t know where they’re supposed to be on every play…And, to be fair, sometimes they probably DON’T know because Wommack has changed the scheme AGAIN. Fortunately, they’ve been able to get things “right” by the end of the game, but this was a major reason why we LOST the U of M game. I mean, D. Morgan on pass coverage? WTH?!?! At least the players knew where to be and what to do in the Tenuta defenses — Start blitzing when you get off the team bus! Of course, opponents always knew what was coming too. I submit that the happy medium exists somewhere in between…Maybe a “standard” 4-3 D and make adjustments during the game…Not just at half-time. The offense is EXOTIC. No need for an exotic D.

2. Penalties kept WF in the game, period. If we weren’t flagged 7 times for 78 yds, had a BEAUTIFUL 66 yd TD run called back and gave them a TD instead of 3 with the roughing penalty…Then this game wouldn’t have even been close! I’m not making excuses, just saying that this was more of UGAG-type game where Tech was shooting itself in the foot constantly. Of course, Beamer’s “Crying Foul” to the press and ACC Office surely has had an impact, just like he intended…And there was some bad officiating in that game.

The moral of the story is: Tech has OVERCOME adversity where not too long ago everyone, even some Tech Fans, EXPECTED collapse and failure with the typical Gailey teams…Clearly this “perception” of Tech Football is beginning to change, or we’d probably be ranked somewhere around the #15 spot now instead of #7. CPJ gets respect, and that is lifting Tech to a loftier place. Being seen as “the best 1-loss team in the country” is HUGE for GT!!

Nesbitt didn’t have his best game Sat either…But he PRODUCED when it counted! He was probably overdue for a less-than-stellar game. Let’s hope that since everyone is all giddy about how DUKE Football is “back” and they’re going to give Tech all they can handle this weekend really has set expectations that high for them…And then Tech rolls in and hangs a 50 and forces them to settle for FGs all day. This Sat could really be a “game-changer” for Tech in the polls this year…Then resting up and rolling the dawgs…And convincingly winning the ACC both outright and in the Tampa game might be the “strong finish” that propels Tech even higher. I know, I know…Beat DOOK! I hope it isn’t even close and our 2nd & 3rd teams are in by the 3rd QTR…GO JACKETS!!

Sagarin's Strength of Schedule

November 10th, 2009
9:08 am

1 Florida 70.77( 42)
2 Alabama 72.56( 25)
3 TCU 70.07( 47)
4 Texas 69.34( 52)
5 Cincinnati 68.46( 67)
6 Oregon 77.13( 6)
7 Boise State 66.87( 82)
8 So. California 76.94( 7)
9 Georgia Tech 74.88( 12)
10 LSU 73.80( 17)
11 Virginia Tech 77.68( 4)
12 Ohio State 70.22( 46)
13 Miami-Florida 74.90( 11)
14 Arizona 73.95( 16)
15 Clemson 72.79( 23)
16 Iowa 71.19( 39)
17 Pittsburgh 68.42( 70)
18 Oregon State 75.41( 9)
19 Penn State 68.35( 72)
20 Stanford 74.52( 15)

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
9:10 am

“We need a SHUT DOWN defense…to really get noticed. Right now we’re just outscoring the other teams.”

Well, outscoring other teams usually counts as a W, not an L. Wake, even though it APPEARED that they ran all over Tech and amassed huge yardage, rushed the ball 25 times for 28 TOTAL rushing yards over 4 QTRS…How is THAT not a “shutdown defense”?!? The SENIOR QB, who owns most of the passing records at WF, was 26 of 40 for 263 yds…And a majority of those were little 5-10 yd dumps to the sidelines because the receivers were given 10-15 yd cushions in the 1st half. Hell, I could’ve completed most of those passes! PENALTIES kept WF in the game or it wouldn’t have even been close…

GT

November 10th, 2009
9:10 am

Seems to me in the 60s and 70s we could define a top five team. Georgia Tech left the SEC because not only was Alabama taking enough to fill its roster they were taking a lot more and leaving them on their campus instead of letting them play somewhere else. They would cut late and it would be too late for these players to go to another school, so you had college players in a reservoir on Bama’s campus not even playing football but hoping to make the traveling team at Alabama. (now they are claiming we are doing that with water which I find humorous) You can only imagine how good the starters had to be and how deep the roster were. Cattle cars would come in all day with players and if you didn’t make the team you were on scholarship on campus in waiting. Harvard, Yale on down had to get out of serious football because they could not afford just to give away an education to have a football player hanging around. Alabama could.

I think writers and fans have been lulled into a pattern of looking at teams like it was not the day of parity. A game against Alabama or Oklahoma was like Nassau in war with the United States of America in those days. Now days that player that would have been sitting back on campus not playing is playing for South Florida or Cincinnati. Alabama gets someone hurt there is not a fifth string all American to replace him. A team with a good coach now days that can out think the other coach in a nail biter is a real treasure. Bobby Dodd would have been Bear in this generation because he was a better game day coach. Bobby Bowden in losing ground because he was more a recruiter than a coach. TCU has a great coach. Tech has a great coach. As time wears on these commodities will be the real judge of who is number one, but like basketball the only real way to judge is to play it on the field, something the old powers to be don’t want to happen because it takes away the illusions. First the Big 10 then every league outside the SEC has shown they are no better than the Big East which is patched together with teams that didn’t even play football a decade ago. Boise State wasn’t even in existence when Bear was warehousing. Predicting football in the college game is just a bunch of smoke. People say Tech is not good because of its close game with Wake. A steady diet of Wake in the SEC might surprise people how good they are, but that will never happen. I bet Mississippi will never schedule Wake again after last year.

Joseph

November 10th, 2009
9:12 am

If tech keeps winning, there is no way CIN or Boise could ever hope to beat this Tech team. TCU has a shot. The computer rankings need to be dumped for a playoff system, period.

GT4Ever

November 10th, 2009
9:14 am

Paul H

November 9th, 2009
5:44 pm
GT Que and every other delusional Tech fan – beating your ACC chests with victories over Miss St and Vandy doesn’t qualify you to make a claim as a real conference. I guess maybe the SEC should start scheduling it’s top teams against Duke and NC State every year.

A top tier SEC team and a top tier ACC have only played once this year, and what happened again?

How many ACC teams are in the top 5?

How many national championships has an ACC team won this decade?

How many times has an ACC team been ranked #1 – at ANY point?

Exactly.

Besides the top 3 UF,Bama and LSU none other schools have done jack! If you root for those teams then you have something to brag about. If not, then your SEC team hasn’t accomplished anything. Being close doesn’t count!!!!
As far as Tech’s concerned, NO ONE ever expected them to even be in the position of hoping to play in the MNC. Two short years and CPJ has them at #7. That’s a great accomplishment from where they were two years ago. NO ONE can deny that!! Granted the defense is lacking but they have made improvement since the FSU game. They went from 97th in TTLD to 53rd. They only need to average 40 less yrdspg to be in the top 20. Not really that much when you think about it. I don’t think their defense can hang with the top 3 just yet but their offense sure can. GO JACKETS!!!!

S. Wake

November 10th, 2009
9:30 am

Can’t say they’re being disrespected when everyone above them is undefeated …

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
9:31 am

More Sagarin’s Strength of Schedule Ratings through Nov 9th…

29. Arkansas
33. Tennessee
34. Auburn
37. UGAG
38. Mississippi
48. Kentucky
49. South Carolina

70. DOOK

Gailey Can't Coach

November 10th, 2009
9:35 am

The moral of the story is: Tech has OVERCOME adversity where not too long ago everyone, even some Tech Fans, EXPECTED collapse and failure with the typical Gailey teams…Clearly this “perception” of Tech Football is beginning to change, or we’d probably be ranked somewhere around the #15 spot now instead of #7. CPJ gets respect, and that is lifting Tech to a loftier place. Being seen as “the best 1-loss team in the country” is HUGE for GT!!

Bob

November 10th, 2009
9:48 am

GT will get blackballed this year and every year because Paul Johnson is teching dirty football. Illegal blocks, illegal substitutions and the list goes on. College football doesn’t need or want teams with this type of character to excel. Winning at all cost is not prevail in college football.

That's why they play the game

November 10th, 2009
9:58 am

This is what needs to happen for Georgia Tech:
South Carolina is 6-0 at home and upsets Florida in Columbia.
Auburn has 2 weeks to prepare for Bama and upsets them in Auburn.
8-1 Utah upsets TCU.
Cincinnati loses to Pitt in Pittsburg.
Texas loses on the road at Texas A&M.
Unfortunately, I can’t see Boise State losing with their weak schedule.
13-1 Georgia Tech wins out and plays 13-0 Boise State for the National Championship.

AMG

November 10th, 2009
10:05 am

Here is the thing, The SEC is way overrated. Outside of Florida and Alabama the league has no one. The Mutts are horrible and this has been proven outside the SEC. Tech has beaten two of there other teams. Auburn is not all that good. Ole Miss is nothing compared to what people siad. Heck, SC is not all that good, some predict they will lose there last 3 games. So follow this logic Florida has played and beaten NO ONE. No one, The SEC is for you no what. The media bias is crazy though. Look at there schedule. There games outside the SEC include two girl teams. I say if you put any SEC team in the ACC, they finish .500 or below. Maybe Florida and Alabama, do better, but the rest will not. Does anyone else agree?

That's why they play the game

November 10th, 2009
10:07 am

…..I agree with AMG

BeachReck

November 10th, 2009
10:08 am

The ONLY thing that should matter to Tech right now is beating Duke. NOTHING else matters at the moment. If your scenario plays out, we can have this conversation at that time. For now, this was a waste of print, uh…, bandwidth Jeff. Did you stir it up a bit? Probably. Did it contribute anything meaningful for any of us or strenghten your overall resume, or body of work, as some like to call it these days? Nope.

dawgs4life

November 10th, 2009
10:08 am

This is the most overated GT team since 1990. The Triple Option is
a old navy joke. It means you can’t pass the ball, either the QB runs it
or laterals to one of the running backs, every play.GT is not a better team than LSU or USC, they couldn’t beat half of the teams in the top 25. I doubt they can even beat UGA, with joe Cox at QB.

GTville

November 10th, 2009
10:14 am

Pre BCS
Sugar Florida vs Notre Dame (UF wins NChamp)
Orange Miami vs Alabama
Fiesta Georgia Tech vs Ohio State
Rose Oregon vs Iowa
Cotton Kansas State vs LSU

with BCS
Title Game Florida vs TCU
Sugar Cincinatti vs Alabama
Orange Georgia Tech vs Ohio State
Fiesta USC vs Kansas State
Rose Oregon vs Iowa

with the BCS at least the top 2 teams can meet. The old system prevented the match ups. If we go to an 8 team playoff, then the non-conference games are meaningless if only the Conf champ goes to the playoff; or, the playoff is stacked with brand name schools with big fan bases.

RealityYech

November 10th, 2009
10:25 am

As usual, Yech will be on the outside looking in while the real programs play for championships. Classic!!!

GT

November 10th, 2009
10:29 am

At least Tech can be overrated, Georgia may find being relieved of that hype and over expectation refreshing and helpful in the recovery to big time football if there is such a thing in 2009. We are spending more money of a lesser product. Nobody including the SEC is that good anymore.

word

November 10th, 2009
10:31 am

The 1990 team was a complete joke. Just another example of how Tech claims titles they didn’t earn. Colorado played 4 conference champions that year, while the losers played ZERO. Pathetic.

GT4Ever

November 10th, 2009
10:34 am

Tom

November 9th, 2009
5:17 pm
Sagarin Strength of Schedule (SoS) rankings…..(games played to date)….

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. UCLA
4. Virginia Tech
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Southern California
8. San Jose State
9. Oregon
10. Georgia
11. Miami (FL)
12. Georgia Tech
13. Virginia
14. Wake Forest
15. Stanford

Interesting!!! 6 ACC teams in the top 15 and only 1 SEC team and it’s UGA. Maybe that’s why the SEC is so good. UGA is the only one that has the balls to schedule good OOC teams.

pearl

November 10th, 2009
10:34 am

If the desperate ACC officials wouldn’t allow CPJ’s squad to chop block every single play, they wouldn’t be able to move the ball 2 yards. Very dirty offense.

GT4Ever

November 10th, 2009
10:38 am

dawgs4life

November 10th, 2009
10:08 am
This is the most overated GT team since 1990. The Triple Option is
a old navy joke. It means you can’t pass the ball, either the QB runs it
or laterals to one of the running backs, every play.GT is not a better team than LSU or USC, they couldn’t beat half of the teams in the top 25. I doubt they can even beat UGA, with joe Cox at QB.

Took UGA to the shed last year and will likely do the same this year. Maybe worse!!! That is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. Cox beating Tech. HA HA HA HA HA. UGA couldn’t even do it with all world Stafford and Morono!!! Our offense is light years ahead of where we were last Thanksgiving. Dream on dawgs4life and the rest of you delusional fans.

What

November 10th, 2009
10:55 am

WAAAAH WAAAH!!!! YA SUCK UGAY ADMIT IT. HAHAHAHAHA

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
10:55 am

word, you talk about jokes??? In 1990, Colorado beat Missouri ONLY BECAUSE A STUPID REF GAVE THEM 5 (FIVE) DOWNS to score a TD. Colorado beat Notre Dame ONLY BECAUSE A STUPID REF CALLED A PHANTOM CLIP against Notre Dame on what would have been the winning TD. And Tech beat the (at the time) number one team in the country—UVA, plus they totally demolished the butt-sniffing mutts and the cornhuskers from Nebraska. Tech doesn’t just CLAIM the national championship for 1990, we have the same crystal football in our trophy case that is now awarded to the BCS champion.

kane

November 10th, 2009
11:00 am

I don’t blame Johnson. If I were a coach and realized the refs would let me get away with murder every single game, I’d be chop blocking 24/7 as well!!!

GT4Ever

November 10th, 2009
11:01 am

stats

November 10th, 2009
8:35 am
To date GT defense has allowed 249 points
to date UGA defense has allowed 235 points

One is in the ACC (GT) and has 1 loss
One is in the SEC (UGA) and has 4 losses

SEC > ACC

Here’s the real reason why:
GT has 442 TTL ydspg
UGA has 344 TTL ydspg

GT scores 34.7 ppg
UGA scores 27.1 ppg

GT allows 24.9 ppg
UGA allows 26.1 ppg

That’s the difference btwn a 9-1 team and a 5-4 one stats!!!

nerds in lala land

November 10th, 2009
11:03 am

hey wreckmaniac,

Too bad the only real championships that the bees have won took place before WWI. You haven’t experienced any REAL titles that you didn’t steal from other programs. Nice try though.

boodals

November 10th, 2009
11:05 am

The difference is one team plays in the best conference in the nation, while the other plays in the worst BCS conference. So keep dreaming.

Brock

November 10th, 2009
11:05 am

you morons talking about chop blocks are just like the refs that don’t know what a chop block from a cut block is. Keep talking and coming over and dissing our #7 team, however. Nahh, it doesn’t look stupid.

david allen

November 10th, 2009
11:07 am

Keep winning and hope the others lose. West Va. or Pitt beats Cincy. Utah beats TCU. Nevada (#1 rushing offense) beats Boise. Texas loses in Big 12 Championship game. Alabama or Florida will lose in the SEC game. On to the BCS Title Game!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
11:08 am

I love this “year in and year out” crap that you SEC whiners talk about. Hell, UF wasn’t squat before Spurrier took over as coach, not even when he played there and won the Heisman. Bama hasn’t been consistent since the days of the Bear; it’s only under Saban that any form of consistency has returned. LSU has NEVER been consistent. True, they are all now at the top, but trends change, and that trend will too. Remember, from the late 40s to the early 60s, Tech (while still in the SEC), Tenn, and Bama were consistently rated at or near the top. Tenn has had one stellar year since then. Like I said, Bama seems now to have re-emerged. Tech has had one stellar year in that period, but is definitely on the move again now, in spite of ridiculous claims to cheating (read the rule book, a***les). UGAG has had a couple of periods of relative dominance (not just talking about wins over Tech) in that period, but in general has been pretty mediocre. Just as the Big 10 has always received the best press, in spite of overall mediocrity, the SEC is now receiving that good press, and it is probably more deserved than what the Big 10 ever got. But times change, and that will change too; it always has, and it always will.

word

November 10th, 2009
11:09 am

Again, Colorado played a champions schedule in 1990, while yech played a losers schedule. 4 conference champions to yech’s ZERO says it all. UVA proved to be the most overrated preseason number 1 team in history; finishing with FOUR losses. And the Dawgs were pathetic that year. They didn’t even win 5 games. So hang your hat on that you grave robbers. Everyone knows Colorado is the only champion from 1990.

GT4Ever

November 10th, 2009
11:10 am

Bob

November 10th, 2009
9:48 am
GT will get blackballed this year and every year because Paul Johnson is teching dirty football. Illegal blocks, illegal substitutions and the list goes on. College football doesn’t need or want teams with this type of character to excel. Winning at all cost is not prevail in college football.

Are you related to Beamer? Do you even watch college football? Every team in the country for the most part has been called for a chop block. It’s illegal yes, but all teams do it, not on prupose but it does happen.

CHOP BLOCK U

November 10th, 2009
11:11 am

Man, I wish the refs would let UGA chop block every single play. They’d be undefeated!!!

neferel

November 10th, 2009
11:15 am

It says a lot about the lack of balls at the Trade School. They can’t win playing legit, stand up football like men. They have to resort to cheap, cowardice chop blocks like the pansies they are. Nuff said.

Amen, brotha!!!

November 10th, 2009
11:17 am

HAHAHA, Word, you’re 190% correct!!! For the tools to claim ‘90 as a title is as pathetic as trying to claim the ‘52 title that they didn’t win either!!!! This is why GT is the laughing stock of college football.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
11:21 am

word, deal with it. Like I said, there’s a crystal football in Tech’s trophy case to PROVE we own a share of the 1990 National championship. And while we’re talking about competition, WHO did UGAG play in 1980 when they won their only national championship? Because they are ALWAYS overrated, Notre Dame was chosen to play you in the Sugar Bowl, and this was the same Notre Dame team that had to come from behind just to TIE the Yellow Jackets that year. UGAG may have been the best team in the country in 1980 (I won’t dispute that), but you never proved it on the playing field against any decent competition. So don’t feed us that line about Tech’s competition in 1990; it doesn’t fly. You win the games you are supposed to win, and let the pollsters handle the rest. In 1990, the UPI awarded Tech a share of the national championship, and it’s in the record books—THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST IT (except, of course, amongst stupid, whining, butt-sniffers like you)

Paul Johnson

November 10th, 2009
11:22 am

“Alright my little boys!!! Since we can’t play big boy football, I want to teach all of you how to block below the knees, potentially injurying our opponents for life, since we lack the talent to play real football. Lets go!!!”

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
11:25 am

I have to respond to the claim about Tech using illegal substitution too. Did any of you butt-sniffers notice that LSU tried the same play against UGAG, but Willie actually saw it, forcing the Tigers to call time out and regroup. Or did you notice that Clemson used it (though unsuccessfully) against Miami. And I also read that one of the west coast teams did the same thing. There is nothing illegal about that play, in spite of what the head of ACC officials claimed after the Clemson game. He tried to say that it was “deceptive.” Hell, the whole game of football is based on deception. As long as there is nothing specific about it in the rules book, then it is NOT ILLEGAL.

voice of reason

November 10th, 2009
11:25 am

supersize can’t deal with the realities of pulling for a program that steals titles from teams that actually won them. Word, you are very accurate with your summary of the 1990 season. No one acknowledges GT as a champion from that year, only a pretender that played the softest schedule in the country. Colorado earned their title.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
11:26 am

The jealousy shown here by the mutts this year is overwhelming and oh so gratifying

Supersize is retarded

November 10th, 2009
11:26 am

The ACC ruled that play was ILLEGAL, moron. Stop lying and embarrassing yourself.

Montana

November 10th, 2009
11:28 am

Careful Dawg fans. If GT finishes in the top 15 this year, for the first time in decades, they’ll add another “National Title” to their collection.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
11:28 am

NO, the ACC DID NOT RULE that the play was ILLEGAL, RETARDED. The head of ACC officials said it was illegal, but he did NOT make any kind of ruling that would have overruled what the on-the-field officials had done (and, in fact, knew about in advance, since Johnson had told them). And IF, as you claim, the ACC HAD made that ruling, then why wasn’t Clemson penalized for using it against Miami???

OcreBugMan

November 10th, 2009
11:30 am

GA Tech 56 UGA 9

Sagarin's Strength of Schedule

November 10th, 2009
11:30 am

Wake beat Stanford and Stanford beat Oregon this weekend. But Wake sucks because GT beat them…

THE CATHOLIC HAMMER

November 10th, 2009
11:38 am

I have talked college football to a lot of people, and the only ones that are extreme SEC fans also are the most ignorant. They know a little about the SEC, but almost nothing about any other conference, or college football in general.

For example, how many SEC fans know that Wake Forest beat Stanford this year? Very few, because it didn’t happen in the SEC, therefore, they don’t know about it. Taking their opinion on anything, even the goings on in the SEC, is worthless. They are not only biased, but ignorant.

macrotech

November 10th, 2009
12:29 pm

Puppy fans REALLY get pissy when they’re 5-4!!! The ncaa says that Tech has four national championships….the most recent being in 1990….that SHOULD cover THAT little argument with the exception of anyone in denial! But, let’s not let something like that distract us from the TRUE hurt going on here…last season, uga was in the discussion for their third national championship and that proved to be more than they could handle (we ALL know that your team was riddled with injuries…it’s football…it happens)! NOW, Tech has an outside shot at getting into the game and it is KILLING pup fans because they recognize that, though it may not happen this season, Tech is MUCH closer to winning their fifth national championship than uga is to winning the sec! Tough year for the dawgs…..GREAT year for Tech!!! GO TECH!!! Tissue anyone?

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
1:35 pm

Voice of (no)Reason, I refer you to the following link if you think that nobody recognizes Tech as National Champions in 1990. Read it and weep….or whine, like all you butt-sniffers do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship

RichtsPlugs

November 10th, 2009
1:45 pm

Haters?? We Ar not!! We ar prowd of ire f-f-f-five wins!!! SEC still ruls… And Tennysee didn’t jes beat us… we got shelllacked!!!

Burdell

November 10th, 2009
1:47 pm

Actually according to the NCAA.com website I only see them giving UGA credit for the 1980 championship…while they (the governing body of college athletics) recognize 4 for Tech.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football-fbs.html

Look it up for yourselves!!

GO JACKETS!! BEAT DUKE!! WIN THE COASTAL (again)!!!

cpwood

November 10th, 2009
1:51 pm

Stop with the comparisions of how much this one beat that one. There is no true augument there. Insects stop dreaming and win! You have not even WON a single bowl game under PJ.!!! FACT..and have never been to a BCS game…You will not beat UGA….and will play Clemson in the ACC game and lose. So the NC game and a BCS bowl is a non-discussion topic. PJ is gone to sell his one-trick pony offense to someone else. UGA has a bigger stadium, better atheletes. The fan base travels (we actually have a fan base)better which means more $$$. Last year was a fluke. November 28th is coming, and so is the DAWGS!!!-

RichtsPlugs

November 10th, 2009
1:57 pm

cpwood
“and so ARE the Dawgs” ?? Just asking??
typical SEC…

Burdell

November 10th, 2009
1:58 pm

So is the DAWGS…classic.

RichtsPlugs

November 10th, 2009
1:59 pm

cpwood needs to keep to his bigger stadiums and go mow ‘em or something. trim the hedges maybe… or flip his burgers.

RichtsPlugs

November 10th, 2009
2:04 pm

Loving the “one-trick-pony” offense CPJ spoiled the 08 bull-dykes with. The same one-trick 2nd in NCAA behind Nevada?? The good ‘ol one-trick is still empowering our beloved Navy in YPG and a 7-3 record – a far stretch better than UGAG.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
2:17 pm

Actually, Burdell, that site only shows 3 for Tech; they apparently don’t recognize the 1952 championship, even though Tech had a better record than Mich State. BUT, YOU ARE CORRECT: they only list ONE for the mutts—1980. I wonder what all these butt-sniffers say about all those other years when there were shared championships (one year even shows 3 sharing it); I guess according to the mutts, only one of those teams listed for each of those years was the actual champion. Too bad (for them, at least), even the mutts aren’t involved in any of those years.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
2:19 pm

yeah, RichtsPlugs…..GO NAVY !!!
and, of course, as always….THWG

revwreck

November 10th, 2009
2:22 pm

i just wanna know if we have the ” high school offense” that all the mutts say we have then why is their newest saying” one of the great high dollar schools is going to come after him” as always keep talking outta both sides of your two faces……and just another thought if the SEC is so great why didnt you mutts get a coach from there?

Chop Block U

November 10th, 2009
2:24 pm

This is the closest the tools will ever get to any sort of title again, and as usual, they’ll be short.

word

November 10th, 2009
2:30 pm

See what I mean, supersize thinks the tools can claim titles simply for having “betting records” than the teams that actually won. Classic!!!! If UGA wanted to behave like Yech, they could claim about 10 National Titles, but since they don’t claim titles they didn’t win, they don’t.

Colorado played 4 conference champions in 1990. Yech played ZERO. Case closed.

Almost Competitive Conference

November 10th, 2009
2:33 pm

speaking of irrelevant. When’s the last time the ACC even played for the national title? LOL!!!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
2:38 pm

word, you have no case at all. The record books confirm that Tech shared the 1990 championship. Check any record book you want, and you will see it….well, any record book that is not maintained by the whining butt-sniffers. Even Tech’s claim to the 1952 championship is supported on the following link — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship

If you check that link, you will also see that UGAG is listed for 5 “claims” to a championship, although only one of those additional 4 hold any credence at all. And while you continue to think playing conference champions during a season is so important, would you care to list the 4 that you claim Colorado played that year? Since they only played 11 games during the regular season, and most of them were from the (former) Big Eight, how could they possibly have played 4 conference champions. And while we are at it, just how many conference champions did UGAG play in 1980? I can tell you the answer to that question without you looking it up. ZERO. Case closed.

Wow, Haters out in Force today

November 10th, 2009
2:41 pm

There must be about 20 different logins all blabbering identical inanity about chop blocks… Someone is bored at the McDonalds…

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
2:44 pm

Almost, that would be 2001, when FSU played in a loss, but you asked when an ACC team even played. FSU won it in 1999. Although not yet in the ACC, Miami played for it after the 2002 season, and lost to OSU.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
2:45 pm

Wow, there is actually only one UGAG fan left who even cares anymore, and he posts under all those different names. All the rest have jumped ship.

word

November 10th, 2009
2:52 pm

You are aware that wiki isn’t a real source, right numbnuts? Just to rub salt in your wound, here’s the answer to your question.

1. Tennessee – SEC champ
2. Washingon – Pac 10 champ
3. Illinois – Big 10 champ
4. Texas – Big 8 champ

Choke on it. I love exposing the stupidity of ignorant Tool fans that know nothing about college football and just recently jumped on the bandwagon.

OWNED!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
3:08 pm

Wiki is as accurate as any other source online. The listing they give on their site is from the official recoreds. And I venture to say that you used Wiki to steer you to the records that you found. You should have also noted that they tied Tenn and lost to Illinois (who only tied with a 6-2 record for the Big Ten championship that year). Regardless, they were still GIVEN two games by the refs—the Missouri game (FIVE downs) and the Notre Dame game (phantom clipping call). And what’s more, the coach at Nebraska, whom they had beaten, voted for TECH over Colorado in the final UPI poll which gave a share of the championship to Tech. I’m sure you will just call that sour grapes, but I don’t think Tom Osborne operated that way. And you still haven’t answered my question about who the mutts ever played who was worth a damn in 1980.

word

November 10th, 2009
3:17 pm

Anybody can get on wiki and change any content they want. You’re not very bright. Yes, you’re going to tie and lose when you play 4 conference champions within the first 5 weeks of a season. Yech tied a horrible Carolina team that didn’t even make it to a bowl. Therefore, Colorado’s body of work was FAR more impressive, hence why the won the National Title, and the only one that mattered. I’m sorry these realities don’t measure up to your make-believe nonsense.

There was no shared title or dispute in 1980. UGA was the only UNDEFEATED team that year and won it outright. Something Yech hasn’t done since before WWI.

OWNED!!!

cube

November 10th, 2009
3:19 pm

Nerds tlaking about phantom calls and refs giving games away!?!?!? LOL, classic!!! Tech wouldn’t have “won” 2 of their wins against UGA in the late 90’s if not for horrible officiating. But unfortunately for the bees they had to vacate those wins for having the biggest academic scandal in ACC history. What trash.

taxicab driver nerd grad

November 10th, 2009
3:23 pm

Dang!!! Supersize is getting b*tched slapped. Keep it up word.

Not Disappointed

November 10th, 2009
3:26 pm

Let’s go Jackets!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
3:32 pm

cube, are you still whining about those games. Get over it, dude. And Tech did not have to vacate those wins; that ruling was changed after appeal by the NCAA. So you still lost those games. Deal with it.

So, word, since you don’t want to rely on Wiki, then I guess you are content with the official NCAA webpage. I can deal with that. According to that link (which was listed earlier by somebody here), Tech is officially recognized as having at least a share of THREE national championships, INCLUDING 1990. Wiki lists 6 claims, and the Tech athletic dept claims 4. According to the NCAA webpage, UGAG has ONLY ONE championship (1980), and not the FIVE that Wiki lists or the two that some of you mutts claim. Six to five, four to one, or three to one, Tech still has more legitimate, recognized national championships in football than UGAG has. The one Tech won in 1990 might not matter to you, but it apparently does to the NCAA, so STFU. CASE CLOSED. Deal with it.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
3:33 pm

taxi, are you calling word a bitch? You’re probably right

word

November 10th, 2009
3:48 pm

Figured you couldn’t handle the facts little boy. I’d be ashamed too if my team acted like cowardice scumbags and laid claim to titles they didn’t win. Colorado played the champions schedule in ‘90 and won. Michigan State had the best team in all the land in ‘52 and won. Face it, your program is desperate for any type of success post WWII. Thank you for trying at least, but as usual, I made you my b*tch.

OWNED!!!

word

November 10th, 2009
3:51 pm

And yes, the NCAA did reverse the vacating ruling, but that doesn’t change the fact Yech cheated for 6 years. The NCAA rarely, if ever, forces programs to erase wins. But as a loyal and true college football fan, I don’t recognize cheaters, which Yech did from 1997-2003. I’m sure they still are, but just haven’t been caught lately.

Jerrard Tarrant

November 10th, 2009
3:54 pm

Yo peeps. How many feetz is 50 yardz? Dats how far I gotz to stay away from dem sorority housez, yo. Cant believe da man is tryingz 2 keep me from mah gurliez, yall!! Holla!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
4:00 pm

word, your insecurity is only surpassed by your intelligence. How many titles does UGAG claim? Last I heard it was at least two. But, like I said, the NCAA only recognizes one of them. I don’t think your opinion stacks up to that of the NCAA. And as far as cheating goes, would you care to comment on Jan Kemp and Jim Harrick??? GET A LIFE

word

November 10th, 2009
4:23 pm

I’m sure insecurity is a subject you are all too familiar with yourself. I believe UGA lays claim to 2, since they are recognized for having 2. You’re f’n idiot that can’t read. My life is grand. I have a wonderful job, a beautiful wife and perfect children. Unlike you, who is desperate to find any sort of happiness in your miserable existence that you’d be pathetic enough to make up fictional history for a team you blindly pull for. You’re a very sad little boy.

Joey Hamilton

November 10th, 2009
4:24 pm

Man,

Why all dose license plates I bee beaten out gotta be UGA tags? Wear are my Tek homies at?!?!!

Matt

November 10th, 2009
4:54 pm

Wow, word, you made supersize douchebag your b*tch!!!

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
5:01 pm

word, if you checked the OFFICIAL NCAA website, you had to have seen that UGAG is only listed there ONCE, and NOT TWICE. So who now is making spurious, ignorant claims? It would seem that YOU are the one who cannot read. And, as I am sure others have noticed, even though you probably have not, I have not once resorted to name calling or profanity in exchanging messages with you. Too bad the same cannot be said about you. But aside from all of that, and anything else that has already been said, or that yet may be said, what it all comes down to is that you have your opinion, and the NCAA has its records. Your opinion doesn’t count for squat. You are free to believe and claim whatever you want, but the fact remains that the NCAA recognizes Tech as having THREE national championships in its history, and it recognizes UGAG as having ONE. Tech’s “claim” to one in 1952 is not without merit, but it is not officially recognized. It doesn’t matter whom Tech played or didn’t play, nor whom any other team played or didn’t play. The record stands and your opinion is totally meaningless and irrelevant, but sadly par for the course for many (fortunately not all) UGAG fans who can’t stand the fact that they are not at the top. Tech may not be at the top NOW either, but Tech is a lot closer than UGAG is or will be anytime soon.

DawgVoiceofReason

November 10th, 2009
6:47 pm

Alan,

You said, ” There has NEVER been a team that made it to the Nat champ game that lost their last game of the reg season or conf champ game.”

Your earlier recollection about a Big 12 team losing was close but being merely close led you down the path to WRONG. See the below excerpt from Wikipedia about a team that did do just what you claimed “NEVER” happened.

“The [2003 Oklahoma] team was upset in the 2003 Big 12 Championship Game by a Kansas State Wildcat team that all the experts thought had no chance against what some were calling one of the greatest teams in college football history. The Sooners eventually lost to LSU in the BCS title game”

This was just one of a number of examples of where the BCS system has let all college football fans down.

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2009
6:53 pm

Word –
Nice stats on Colorado beating 4 conference champions. However, you know that Colorado won the Big 8 right – not Texas? Texas was in the SWC back then.

And I thought you didn’t count “shared championships”? Illinois had a 4 way tie in the Big 10 that year – Iowa represented the conference in the Rose Bowl, losing to UW.

And for everyone else – unlike for every other sport, in every other division, there is no such thing as an “Official NCAA Div 1 Football Champion”. It’s just a vote – usually the best team wins the vote but not always. No one can pursuade me that Nebraska was better than Penn State in 1994.

Makes for interesting discussions 20 years later (or more – who the heck knows who was the best team in 1952, not to mention 1917)

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
7:11 pm

Paul, I don’t think word meant that Colorado beat a Texas team from the Big 8. They DID beat Texas that year, and Texas went on to win the SWC championship. So he (unfortunately) was correct on that point. I just discovered a VERY INTERESTING FACT, however. I wonder how many people know that since 1896, Tech has won more conference championships than UGAG has—including the days when both teams competed in the SAIA, the old Southern Conference, and the Southeastern conference, plus Tech’s years in the ACC. Tech has won 15 (hopefully soon to be 16); UGAG 14.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
7:19 pm

It’s interesting too that word was so bent out of shape that Tech would try to claim national championships that were not officially recognized (i.e, 1952). I just checked the UGAG OFFICIAL website, and they try to claim there that UGAG has a total of six national championships. Of course, the NCAA only recognizes the one in 1980, but I guess the mutt fans still enjoy rewriting history to their own benefit.

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2009
8:19 pm

Supersize
My correction of “word” was based on him coming on and acting like a cross between Beano Cook and Tony Barnhart and yet getting wrong something so elementary as knowing which conference Texas was in.

Supersize that order, mutt

November 10th, 2009
9:09 pm

Paul,
Let’s face it, “word” is as irrelevant as the mutts. His arguments are all bogus, and his criticism of Tech for CLAIMING at least a share of the 1952 championship all go up in a puff of smoke when you see how many UGAG claims on their OFFICIAL website. The man is a joke, only he’s not funny in the least.

fuzzybee76

November 10th, 2009
11:21 pm

If GT is good enough to get past Duke, Dogs, and probably a very good Clemson squad I say we could climb to no higher than 4th. If TCU, Cincy, and Boise all lose a game we could jump them, but we will not jump Texas, Bama, or FL if any of them were to lose a game. And based on strength of schedule probably shouldnt.
Just keep winning, bring back a lot of talent, and start next year in maybe top 5:)-

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November 11th, 2009
1:04 am

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Eric C.

November 11th, 2009
4:35 am

It doesn’t matter…GT will lose to Duke this weekend. UGA will beat Tech in a shootout.

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word

November 11th, 2009
9:37 am

Thank you for the correction, Paul. However, you failed to mention that Texas was IN FACT, the SWC champion that year, therefore making my statement of Colorado playing 4 conference champions, a FACT. But if arguing semantics makes you feel better about the realities I laid out, then please, continue.

Supersize, UGA had more outlets voting for them in ‘42 than Tech had in ‘52. Neither the AP nor the Coaches Poll voted for Tech. UGA finished 11-1 in ‘42 and beat UCLA in the Rose Bowl (the Super Bowl of bowls in this era) while OSU (9-1) didn’t even play in a bowl. So yes, 1942 is accepted as a UGA National Championship, and rightly so.

butters

November 11th, 2009
9:57 am

Here’s an interesting fact as well. While the country was at war and most teams had their athletes off fighting for our freedom, GT played football using OTHER TEAM’S PLAYERS during WWII. Say for instance, the team captains from Alabama and Vanderbilt during 1943-44. No one counts these as GT wins since they needed other players from better teams to win. And Tech was also caught cheating in the late 1990’s and their co-championship from 1998 doesn’t count either. So in reality, they’re sitting on 12 conference titles.

Pretty sad they’ve been in the weakest conference in the nation over the past 50 years and only have 1 legit ACC title to show for it. What a disgrace.

Almost Competitive Conference

November 11th, 2009
10:21 am

The ACC has 5 teams that aren’t even playing .500 ball. What a joke!!!

Elliot

November 11th, 2009
10:51 am

Word —

Thank you for the insight. I never knew Colorado played such an impressive schedule in 1990, especially when compared to Tech’s junior varsity schedule. Colorado’s schedule was one to admire. It’s ashame teams no longer challenge themselves anymore the way they did. They truly were the only real champion for 1990. Great posts!

Chike

November 11th, 2009
11:54 am

Our best shot is Texas A&M beating Texas prior to the Big-12 Championship. The voters won’t put 2 SEC teams in the championship. Nor will they put a mid-major. Therefore we only have to win our last 3 games and have Texas lose before the Big-12 championship.

If Texas beats A&M and then loses the Big-12 championship they still don’t fall below Tech.

namster

November 11th, 2009
12:32 pm

It would make more sense to have the two best teams in the nation, in the same dominate conference, playing again for the national title over a shmuck team from the ACC.

Saint Simons

November 11th, 2009
2:31 pm

My peepee is weedle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

navy

November 11th, 2009
3:58 pm

Word, you’re dead-on point. Keep in mind how obviously bias the current sports media is towards the northern and midwestern teams now, and just imagine how even more absurdly bias they were back in the 40’s when you had zero alternate outlets. OSU or Michigan could have lost to a high school team and they would have gladly found a way to give them the title over a more deserving team.

killerJ

November 12th, 2009
10:03 pm

To Finish In The Top 10 Is More Than Enough,To Win In The BCS Game Is More Than Enough,To Win The ACC Championship Would Be The Ultimate Stepping Stone For Next Year! P.S. May The Turkey Gods Whoop Georgia A#$%SS. THWG, ROLL WRECK!!!! TAMPA BAY OR BUST!!!!!!!

Mary Jane

November 13th, 2009
1:19 pm

Yech has been a mediocre program in the worst BCS program for years. They suck. The ACC sucks. Face reality.

Experts say Tech has about hit the ceiling in BCS

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RK	TEAM	AVG	PVS	RK	PTS	%	RK	PTS	%	AVG	A&H	RB	CM	KM	JS	PW	%
1	Florida	.9842	1	1	2801	.9828	1	1460	.9898	1	25	24	24	24	25	25	.980
2	Alabama	.9516	3	3	2688	.9432	3	1389	.9417	2	24	25	25	25	23	23	.970
3	Texas	.9234	2	2	2712	.9516	2	1399	.9485	5	22	23	23	21	19	21	.870
4	TCU	.8620	6	4	2424	.8505	4	1262	.8556	4	21	22	22	22	22	22	.880
5	Cincinnati	.8580	5	5	2377	.8340	5	1224	.8298	3	23	20	21	23	24	24	.910
6	Boise State	.8126	7	6	2349	.8242	6	1200	.8136	6	20	21	18	19	21	20	.800
7	Georgia Tech	.7552	10	7	2131	.7477	7	1118	.7580	7	19	18	20	20	18	19	.760
8	LSU	.6138	9	11	1634	.8733	11	838	.5681	8	17	19	15	17	20	17	.700
9	USC	.5922	12	10	1660	.5825	10	847	.5742	11	15	17	14	16	16	15	.620
10	Iowa	.5745	4	12	1540	.5404	13	757	.5132	9	18	16	19	15	15	18	.670
11	Ohio State	.5733	16	8	1795	.6298	8	944	.6400	13	14	13	13	10	8	9	.450
12	Pittsburgh	.5628	13	9	1713	.6011	9	940	.6373	13	13	10	12	9	10	14	.450
13	Oregon	.5318	8	14	1381	.4846	16	665	.4508	10	16	14	17	18	17	16	.660
14	Miami (FL)	.4712	17	15	1366	.4793	15	685	.4644	12	11	8	16	12	12	12	.470
15	Houston	.4691	15	13	1476	.5179	12	766	.5193	16	10	9	11	0	7	13	.370
16	Utah	.4003	14	16	1352	.4744	14	688	.4664	20	6	15	6	4	4	10	.260
17	Arizona	.3363	18	19	880	.3088	19	472	.3200	15	7	0	7	13	14	11	.380
18	Penn State	.3350	11	17	1057	.3709	17	552	.3742	20	8	12	8	7	0	3	.260
19	Oklahoma State	.2909	19	18	979	.435	18	530	.3593	22	5	11	5	2	1	5	.170
20	Wisconsin	.2334	21	20	567	.1989	20	341	.2312	19	12	3	9	8	6	4	.270
21	Virginia Tech	.2331	23	21	478	.1677	21	268	.1817	17	9	0	10	11	9	7	.350
22	Brigham Young	.1236	NR	22	468	.1642	22	216	.1464	25	2	7	2	0	0	2	.060
23	Oregon State	.1231	NR	28	94	.0330	28	39	.0264	18	4	6	3	14	13	8	.310
24	South Florida	.1084	25	23	266	.0933	24	106	.0719	23	0	5	0	5	11	6	.160
25	West Virginia	.0653	NR	24	182	.0639	23	121	.0820	26	3	2	4	0	0	0	.050

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