Experts say Tech has about hit the ceiling in BCS
The Jackets have had a lot to celebrate this season, including Josh Nesbitt's (9) winning touchdown in overtime against Wake Forest. (Johnny Crawford/jcrawford@ajc.com)
When the first BCS standings were released about three weeks ago, I put together a checklist of what I thought it would take for Georgia Tech to climb from No. 12 to No. 2 and, therefore, make it into the national championship game.
You can click the above link, but I’ll boil it down for you here: 1) Don’t lose another game; 2) Hope a lot of other teams lose games. Simple.
Some of that has happened. It’s why the Jackets now rank seventh. But according to the nation’s two foremost BCS experts, Brad Edwards and Jerry Palm, seventh is about as high as they’re going to go.
When I spoke to both in separate interviews, each also said they could foresee a scenario in which either No. 1 Florida or No. 2 Alabama lost a game to fall back in the rankings, then won the SEC championship to leapfrog Tech again. The reason: The strength of the SEC — perceived and actual — carries a lot more weight with the voters and in computer rankings than the strength of the ACC (and therefore Tech’s schedule).
“I can’t say there’s no way it could happen,” ESPN’s Edwards said of Tech working its way up. “Obviously, I can’t foresee how voters would treat them. But my gut feeling at this point is even a one-loss SEC team finishes ahead of them. What really hurts Tech is their biggest games were played in the first five or six games of the season. They’ve had nothing in the last half of the season to pay close attention to. I’m not sure even winning out would put them ahead of TCU, Cincinnati or Boise State.”
Palm, who operates CollegeBCS.com, said, “Tech’s problem is there’s a general lack of respect for the ACC. Is it better than the Mountain West [which includes TCU]? Yeah, it probably is. But I’m not sure what the voters think of Georgia Tech, compared to those schools ahead of them.”
Do you agree with the comments, or do you think the ACC in general and the Yellow Jackets in particular are being disrespected?
Also, here’s another look at the BCS standings.
| BCS | Harris Poll | USA Today | Computer Rankings | ||||||||||||||
| RK | TEAM | AVG | PVS | RK | PTS | % | RK | PTS | % | AVG | A&H | RB | CM | KM | JS | PW | % |
| 1 | Florida | .9842 | 1 | 1 | 2801 | .9828 | 1 | 1460 | .9898 | 1 | 25 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 25 | .980 |
| 2 | Alabama | .9516 | 3 | 3 | 2688 | .9432 | 3 | 1389 | .9417 | 2 | 24 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 23 | 23 | .970 |
| 3 | Texas | .9234 | 2 | 2 | 2712 | .9516 | 2 | 1399 | .9485 | 5 | 22 | 23 | 23 | 21 | 19 | 21 | .870 |
| 4 | TCU | .8620 | 6 | 4 | 2424 | .8505 | 4 | 1262 | .8556 | 4 | 21 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | .880 |
| 5 | Cincinnati | .8580 | 5 | 5 | 2377 | .8340 | 5 | 1224 | .8298 | 3 | 23 | 20 | 21 | 23 | 24 | 24 | .910 |
| 6 | Boise State | .8126 | 7 | 6 | 2349 | .8242 | 6 | 1200 | .8136 | 6 | 20 | 21 | 18 | 19 | 21 | 20 | .800 |
| 7 | Georgia Tech | .7552 | 10 | 7 | 2131 | .7477 | 7 | 1118 | .7580 | 7 | 19 | 18 | 20 | 20 | 18 | 19 | .760 |
| 8 | LSU | .6138 | 9 | 11 | 1634 | .8733 | 11 | 838 | .5681 | 8 | 17 | 19 | 15 | 17 | 20 | 17 | .700 |
| 9 | USC | .5922 | 12 | 10 | 1660 | .5825 | 10 | 847 | .5742 | 11 | 15 | 17 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 15 | .620 |
| 10 | Iowa | .5745 | 4 | 12 | 1540 | .5404 | 13 | 757 | .5132 | 9 | 18 | 16 | 19 | 15 | 15 | 18 | .670 |
| 11 | Ohio State | .5733 | 16 | 8 | 1795 | .6298 | 8 | 944 | .6400 | 13 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 10 | 8 | 9 | .450 |
| 12 | Pittsburgh | .5628 | 13 | 9 | 1713 | .6011 | 9 | 940 | .6373 | 13 | 13 | 10 | 12 | 9 | 10 | 14 | .450 |
| 13 | Oregon | .5318 | 8 | 14 | 1381 | .4846 | 16 | 665 | .4508 | 10 | 16 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 17 | 16 | .660 |
| 14 | Miami (FL) | .4712 | 17 | 15 | 1366 | .4793 | 15 | 685 | .4644 | 12 | 11 | 8 | 16 | 12 | 12 | 12 | .470 |
| 15 | Houston | .4691 | 15 | 13 | 1476 | .5179 | 12 | 766 | .5193 | 16 | 10 | 9 | 11 | 0 | 7 | 13 | .370 |
| 16 | Utah | .4003 | 14 | 16 | 1352 | .4744 | 14 | 688 | .4664 | 20 | 6 | 15 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 10 | .260 |
| 17 | Arizona | .3363 | 18 | 19 | 880 | .3088 | 19 | 472 | .3200 | 15 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 13 | 14 | 11 | .380 |
| 18 | Penn State | .3350 | 11 | 17 | 1057 | .3709 | 17 | 552 | .3742 | 20 | 8 | 12 | 8 | 7 | 0 | 3 | .260 |
| 19 | Oklahoma State | .2909 | 19 | 18 | 979 | .435 | 18 | 530 | .3593 | 22 | 5 | 11 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 5 | .170 |
| 20 | Wisconsin | .2334 | 21 | 20 | 567 | .1989 | 20 | 341 | .2312 | 19 | 12 | 3 | 9 | 8 | 6 | 4 | .270 |
| 21 | Virginia Tech | .2331 | 23 | 21 | 478 | .1677 | 21 | 268 | .1817 | 17 | 9 | 0 | 10 | 11 | 9 | 7 | .350 |
| 22 | Brigham Young | .1236 | NR | 22 | 468 | .1642 | 22 | 216 | .1464 | 25 | 2 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .060 |
| 23 | Oregon State | .1231 | NR | 28 | 94 | .0330 | 28 | 39 | .0264 | 18 | 4 | 6 | 3 | 14 | 13 | 8 | .310 |
| 24 | South Florida | .1084 | 25 | 23 | 266 | .0933 | 24 | 106 | .0719 | 23 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 11 | 6 | .160 |
| 25 | West Virginia | .0653 | NR | 24 | 182 | .0639 | 23 | 121 | .0820 | 26 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .050 |
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Old Gold Britches
November 10th, 2009
8:54 am
Let’s concentrate on Doop, and then the mutts. There is no guaranteed win here. Throw out the records here for the mutts. This will be a battle. Jackets should win, but you have to come prepared to run the “Perfect Option”!
Gailey Can't Coach
November 10th, 2009
9:05 am
“We need a SHUT DOWN defense…to really get noticed. Right now we’re just outscoring the other teams.”
Well, outscoring other teams usually counts as a W, not an L. Wake, even though it APPEARED that they ran all over Tech and amassed huge yardage, rushed the ball 25 times for 28 TOTAL rushing yards over 4 QTRS…How is THAT not a “shutdown defense”?!? The SENIOR QB, who owns most of the passing records at WF, was 26 of 40 for 263 yds…And a majority of those were little 5-10 yd dumps to the sidelines because the receivers were given 10-15 yd cushions in the 1st half. Hell, I could’ve completed most of those passes!
There are 2 PROBLEMS that really need to be addressed:
1. First they were changing the defensive schemes every week or two…Now they’re changing them every HALF & this is beyond ridiculous! It makes our guys look like they don’t know where they’re supposed to be on every play…And, to be fair, sometimes they probably DON’T know because Wommack has changed the scheme AGAIN. Fortunately, they’ve been able to get things “right” by the end of the game, but this was a major reason why we LOST the U of M game. I mean, D. Morgan on pass coverage? WTH?!?! At least the players knew where to be and what to do in the Tenuta defenses — Start blitzing when you get off the team bus! Of course, opponents always knew what was coming too. I submit that the happy medium exists somewhere in between…Maybe a “standard” 4-3 D and make adjustments during the game…Not just at half-time. The offense is EXOTIC. No need for an exotic D.
2. Penalties kept WF in the game, period. If we weren’t flagged 7 times for 78 yds, had a BEAUTIFUL 66 yd TD run called back and gave them a TD instead of 3 with the roughing penalty…Then this game wouldn’t have even been close! I’m not making excuses, just saying that this was more of UGAG-type game where Tech was shooting itself in the foot constantly. Of course, Beamer’s “Crying Foul” to the press and ACC Office surely has had an impact, just like he intended…And there was some bad officiating in that game.
The moral of the story is: Tech has OVERCOME adversity where not too long ago everyone, even some Tech Fans, EXPECTED collapse and failure with the typical Gailey teams…Clearly this “perception” of Tech Football is beginning to change, or we’d probably be ranked somewhere around the #15 spot now instead of #7. CPJ gets respect, and that is lifting Tech to a loftier place. Being seen as “the best 1-loss team in the country” is HUGE for GT!!
Nesbitt didn’t have his best game Sat either…But he PRODUCED when it counted! He was probably overdue for a less-than-stellar game. Let’s hope that since everyone is all giddy about how DUKE Football is “back” and they’re going to give Tech all they can handle this weekend really has set expectations that high for them…And then Tech rolls in and hangs a 50 and forces them to settle for FGs all day. This Sat could really be a “game-changer” for Tech in the polls this year…Then resting up and rolling the dawgs…And convincingly winning the ACC both outright and in the Tampa game might be the “strong finish” that propels Tech even higher. I know, I know…Beat DOOK! I hope it isn’t even close and our 2nd & 3rd teams are in by the 3rd QTR…GO JACKETS!!
Sagarin's Strength of Schedule
November 10th, 2009
9:08 am
1 Florida 70.77( 42)
2 Alabama 72.56( 25)
3 TCU 70.07( 47)
4 Texas 69.34( 52)
5 Cincinnati 68.46( 67)
6 Oregon 77.13( 6)
7 Boise State 66.87( 82)
8 So. California 76.94( 7)
9 Georgia Tech 74.88( 12)
10 LSU 73.80( 17)
11 Virginia Tech 77.68( 4)
12 Ohio State 70.22( 46)
13 Miami-Florida 74.90( 11)
14 Arizona 73.95( 16)
15 Clemson 72.79( 23)
16 Iowa 71.19( 39)
17 Pittsburgh 68.42( 70)
18 Oregon State 75.41( 9)
19 Penn State 68.35( 72)
20 Stanford 74.52( 15)
Gailey Can't Coach
November 10th, 2009
9:10 am
“We need a SHUT DOWN defense…to really get noticed. Right now we’re just outscoring the other teams.”
Well, outscoring other teams usually counts as a W, not an L. Wake, even though it APPEARED that they ran all over Tech and amassed huge yardage, rushed the ball 25 times for 28 TOTAL rushing yards over 4 QTRS…How is THAT not a “shutdown defense”?!? The SENIOR QB, who owns most of the passing records at WF, was 26 of 40 for 263 yds…And a majority of those were little 5-10 yd dumps to the sidelines because the receivers were given 10-15 yd cushions in the 1st half. Hell, I could’ve completed most of those passes! PENALTIES kept WF in the game or it wouldn’t have even been close…
GT
November 10th, 2009
9:10 am
Seems to me in the 60s and 70s we could define a top five team. Georgia Tech left the SEC because not only was Alabama taking enough to fill its roster they were taking a lot more and leaving them on their campus instead of letting them play somewhere else. They would cut late and it would be too late for these players to go to another school, so you had college players in a reservoir on Bama’s campus not even playing football but hoping to make the traveling team at Alabama. (now they are claiming we are doing that with water which I find humorous) You can only imagine how good the starters had to be and how deep the roster were. Cattle cars would come in all day with players and if you didn’t make the team you were on scholarship on campus in waiting. Harvard, Yale on down had to get out of serious football because they could not afford just to give away an education to have a football player hanging around. Alabama could.
I think writers and fans have been lulled into a pattern of looking at teams like it was not the day of parity. A game against Alabama or Oklahoma was like Nassau in war with the United States of America in those days. Now days that player that would have been sitting back on campus not playing is playing for South Florida or Cincinnati. Alabama gets someone hurt there is not a fifth string all American to replace him. A team with a good coach now days that can out think the other coach in a nail biter is a real treasure. Bobby Dodd would have been Bear in this generation because he was a better game day coach. Bobby Bowden in losing ground because he was more a recruiter than a coach. TCU has a great coach. Tech has a great coach. As time wears on these commodities will be the real judge of who is number one, but like basketball the only real way to judge is to play it on the field, something the old powers to be don’t want to happen because it takes away the illusions. First the Big 10 then every league outside the SEC has shown they are no better than the Big East which is patched together with teams that didn’t even play football a decade ago. Boise State wasn’t even in existence when Bear was warehousing. Predicting football in the college game is just a bunch of smoke. People say Tech is not good because of its close game with Wake. A steady diet of Wake in the SEC might surprise people how good they are, but that will never happen. I bet Mississippi will never schedule Wake again after last year.
Joseph
November 10th, 2009
9:12 am
If tech keeps winning, there is no way CIN or Boise could ever hope to beat this Tech team. TCU has a shot. The computer rankings need to be dumped for a playoff system, period.
GT4Ever
November 10th, 2009
9:14 am
Paul H
November 9th, 2009
5:44 pm
GT Que and every other delusional Tech fan – beating your ACC chests with victories over Miss St and Vandy doesn’t qualify you to make a claim as a real conference. I guess maybe the SEC should start scheduling it’s top teams against Duke and NC State every year.
A top tier SEC team and a top tier ACC have only played once this year, and what happened again?
How many ACC teams are in the top 5?
How many national championships has an ACC team won this decade?
How many times has an ACC team been ranked #1 – at ANY point?
Exactly.
Besides the top 3 UF,Bama and LSU none other schools have done jack! If you root for those teams then you have something to brag about. If not, then your SEC team hasn’t accomplished anything. Being close doesn’t count!!!!
As far as Tech’s concerned, NO ONE ever expected them to even be in the position of hoping to play in the MNC. Two short years and CPJ has them at #7. That’s a great accomplishment from where they were two years ago. NO ONE can deny that!! Granted the defense is lacking but they have made improvement since the FSU game. They went from 97th in TTLD to 53rd. They only need to average 40 less yrdspg to be in the top 20. Not really that much when you think about it. I don’t think their defense can hang with the top 3 just yet but their offense sure can. GO JACKETS!!!!
S. Wake
November 10th, 2009
9:30 am
Can’t say they’re being disrespected when everyone above them is undefeated …
Gailey Can't Coach
November 10th, 2009
9:31 am
More Sagarin’s Strength of Schedule Ratings through Nov 9th…
29. Arkansas
33. Tennessee
34. Auburn
37. UGAG
38. Mississippi
48. Kentucky
49. South Carolina
70. DOOK
Gailey Can't Coach
November 10th, 2009
9:35 am
The moral of the story is: Tech has OVERCOME adversity where not too long ago everyone, even some Tech Fans, EXPECTED collapse and failure with the typical Gailey teams…Clearly this “perception” of Tech Football is beginning to change, or we’d probably be ranked somewhere around the #15 spot now instead of #7. CPJ gets respect, and that is lifting Tech to a loftier place. Being seen as “the best 1-loss team in the country” is HUGE for GT!!
Bob
November 10th, 2009
9:48 am
GT will get blackballed this year and every year because Paul Johnson is teching dirty football. Illegal blocks, illegal substitutions and the list goes on. College football doesn’t need or want teams with this type of character to excel. Winning at all cost is not prevail in college football.
That's why they play the game
November 10th, 2009
9:58 am
This is what needs to happen for Georgia Tech:
South Carolina is 6-0 at home and upsets Florida in Columbia.
Auburn has 2 weeks to prepare for Bama and upsets them in Auburn.
8-1 Utah upsets TCU.
Cincinnati loses to Pitt in Pittsburg.
Texas loses on the road at Texas A&M.
Unfortunately, I can’t see Boise State losing with their weak schedule.
13-1 Georgia Tech wins out and plays 13-0 Boise State for the National Championship.
AMG
November 10th, 2009
10:05 am
Here is the thing, The SEC is way overrated. Outside of Florida and Alabama the league has no one. The Mutts are horrible and this has been proven outside the SEC. Tech has beaten two of there other teams. Auburn is not all that good. Ole Miss is nothing compared to what people siad. Heck, SC is not all that good, some predict they will lose there last 3 games. So follow this logic Florida has played and beaten NO ONE. No one, The SEC is for you no what. The media bias is crazy though. Look at there schedule. There games outside the SEC include two girl teams. I say if you put any SEC team in the ACC, they finish .500 or below. Maybe Florida and Alabama, do better, but the rest will not. Does anyone else agree?
That's why they play the game
November 10th, 2009
10:07 am
…..I agree with AMG
BeachReck
November 10th, 2009
10:08 am
The ONLY thing that should matter to Tech right now is beating Duke. NOTHING else matters at the moment. If your scenario plays out, we can have this conversation at that time. For now, this was a waste of print, uh…, bandwidth Jeff. Did you stir it up a bit? Probably. Did it contribute anything meaningful for any of us or strenghten your overall resume, or body of work, as some like to call it these days? Nope.
dawgs4life
November 10th, 2009
10:08 am
This is the most overated GT team since 1990. The Triple Option is
a old navy joke. It means you can’t pass the ball, either the QB runs it
or laterals to one of the running backs, every play.GT is not a better team than LSU or USC, they couldn’t beat half of the teams in the top 25. I doubt they can even beat UGA, with joe Cox at QB.
GTville
November 10th, 2009
10:14 am
Pre BCS
Sugar Florida vs Notre Dame (UF wins NChamp)
Orange Miami vs Alabama
Fiesta Georgia Tech vs Ohio State
Rose Oregon vs Iowa
Cotton Kansas State vs LSU
with BCS
Title Game Florida vs TCU
Sugar Cincinatti vs Alabama
Orange Georgia Tech vs Ohio State
Fiesta USC vs Kansas State
Rose Oregon vs Iowa
with the BCS at least the top 2 teams can meet. The old system prevented the match ups. If we go to an 8 team playoff, then the non-conference games are meaningless if only the Conf champ goes to the playoff; or, the playoff is stacked with brand name schools with big fan bases.
RealityYech
November 10th, 2009
10:25 am
As usual, Yech will be on the outside looking in while the real programs play for championships. Classic!!!
GT
November 10th, 2009
10:29 am
At least Tech can be overrated, Georgia may find being relieved of that hype and over expectation refreshing and helpful in the recovery to big time football if there is such a thing in 2009. We are spending more money of a lesser product. Nobody including the SEC is that good anymore.
word
November 10th, 2009
10:31 am
The 1990 team was a complete joke. Just another example of how Tech claims titles they didn’t earn. Colorado played 4 conference champions that year, while the losers played ZERO. Pathetic.
GT4Ever
November 10th, 2009
10:34 am
Tom
November 9th, 2009
5:17 pm
Sagarin Strength of Schedule (SoS) rankings…..(games played to date)….
1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. UCLA
4. Virginia Tech
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Southern California
8. San Jose State
9. Oregon
10. Georgia
11. Miami (FL)
12. Georgia Tech
13. Virginia
14. Wake Forest
15. Stanford
Interesting!!! 6 ACC teams in the top 15 and only 1 SEC team and it’s UGA. Maybe that’s why the SEC is so good. UGA is the only one that has the balls to schedule good OOC teams.
pearl
November 10th, 2009
10:34 am
If the desperate ACC officials wouldn’t allow CPJ’s squad to chop block every single play, they wouldn’t be able to move the ball 2 yards. Very dirty offense.
GT4Ever
November 10th, 2009
10:38 am
dawgs4life
November 10th, 2009
10:08 am
This is the most overated GT team since 1990. The Triple Option is
a old navy joke. It means you can’t pass the ball, either the QB runs it
or laterals to one of the running backs, every play.GT is not a better team than LSU or USC, they couldn’t beat half of the teams in the top 25. I doubt they can even beat UGA, with joe Cox at QB.
Took UGA to the shed last year and will likely do the same this year. Maybe worse!!! That is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. Cox beating Tech. HA HA HA HA HA. UGA couldn’t even do it with all world Stafford and Morono!!! Our offense is light years ahead of where we were last Thanksgiving. Dream on dawgs4life and the rest of you delusional fans.
What
November 10th, 2009
10:55 am
WAAAAH WAAAH!!!! YA SUCK UGAY ADMIT IT. HAHAHAHAHA
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
10:55 am
word, you talk about jokes??? In 1990, Colorado beat Missouri ONLY BECAUSE A STUPID REF GAVE THEM 5 (FIVE) DOWNS to score a TD. Colorado beat Notre Dame ONLY BECAUSE A STUPID REF CALLED A PHANTOM CLIP against Notre Dame on what would have been the winning TD. And Tech beat the (at the time) number one team in the country—UVA, plus they totally demolished the butt-sniffing mutts and the cornhuskers from Nebraska. Tech doesn’t just CLAIM the national championship for 1990, we have the same crystal football in our trophy case that is now awarded to the BCS champion.
kane
November 10th, 2009
11:00 am
I don’t blame Johnson. If I were a coach and realized the refs would let me get away with murder every single game, I’d be chop blocking 24/7 as well!!!
GT4Ever
November 10th, 2009
11:01 am
stats
November 10th, 2009
8:35 am
To date GT defense has allowed 249 points
to date UGA defense has allowed 235 points
One is in the ACC (GT) and has 1 loss
One is in the SEC (UGA) and has 4 losses
SEC > ACC
Here’s the real reason why:
GT has 442 TTL ydspg
UGA has 344 TTL ydspg
GT scores 34.7 ppg
UGA scores 27.1 ppg
GT allows 24.9 ppg
UGA allows 26.1 ppg
That’s the difference btwn a 9-1 team and a 5-4 one stats!!!
nerds in lala land
November 10th, 2009
11:03 am
hey wreckmaniac,
Too bad the only real championships that the bees have won took place before WWI. You haven’t experienced any REAL titles that you didn’t steal from other programs. Nice try though.
boodals
November 10th, 2009
11:05 am
The difference is one team plays in the best conference in the nation, while the other plays in the worst BCS conference. So keep dreaming.
Brock
November 10th, 2009
11:05 am
you morons talking about chop blocks are just like the refs that don’t know what a chop block from a cut block is. Keep talking and coming over and dissing our #7 team, however. Nahh, it doesn’t look stupid.
david allen
November 10th, 2009
11:07 am
Keep winning and hope the others lose. West Va. or Pitt beats Cincy. Utah beats TCU. Nevada (#1 rushing offense) beats Boise. Texas loses in Big 12 Championship game. Alabama or Florida will lose in the SEC game. On to the BCS Title Game!
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
11:08 am
I love this “year in and year out” crap that you SEC whiners talk about. Hell, UF wasn’t squat before Spurrier took over as coach, not even when he played there and won the Heisman. Bama hasn’t been consistent since the days of the Bear; it’s only under Saban that any form of consistency has returned. LSU has NEVER been consistent. True, they are all now at the top, but trends change, and that trend will too. Remember, from the late 40s to the early 60s, Tech (while still in the SEC), Tenn, and Bama were consistently rated at or near the top. Tenn has had one stellar year since then. Like I said, Bama seems now to have re-emerged. Tech has had one stellar year in that period, but is definitely on the move again now, in spite of ridiculous claims to cheating (read the rule book, a***les). UGAG has had a couple of periods of relative dominance (not just talking about wins over Tech) in that period, but in general has been pretty mediocre. Just as the Big 10 has always received the best press, in spite of overall mediocrity, the SEC is now receiving that good press, and it is probably more deserved than what the Big 10 ever got. But times change, and that will change too; it always has, and it always will.
word
November 10th, 2009
11:09 am
Again, Colorado played a champions schedule in 1990, while yech played a losers schedule. 4 conference champions to yech’s ZERO says it all. UVA proved to be the most overrated preseason number 1 team in history; finishing with FOUR losses. And the Dawgs were pathetic that year. They didn’t even win 5 games. So hang your hat on that you grave robbers. Everyone knows Colorado is the only champion from 1990.
GT4Ever
November 10th, 2009
11:10 am
Bob
November 10th, 2009
9:48 am
GT will get blackballed this year and every year because Paul Johnson is teching dirty football. Illegal blocks, illegal substitutions and the list goes on. College football doesn’t need or want teams with this type of character to excel. Winning at all cost is not prevail in college football.
Are you related to Beamer? Do you even watch college football? Every team in the country for the most part has been called for a chop block. It’s illegal yes, but all teams do it, not on prupose but it does happen.
CHOP BLOCK U
November 10th, 2009
11:11 am
Man, I wish the refs would let UGA chop block every single play. They’d be undefeated!!!
neferel
November 10th, 2009
11:15 am
It says a lot about the lack of balls at the Trade School. They can’t win playing legit, stand up football like men. They have to resort to cheap, cowardice chop blocks like the pansies they are. Nuff said.
Amen, brotha!!!
November 10th, 2009
11:17 am
HAHAHA, Word, you’re 190% correct!!! For the tools to claim ‘90 as a title is as pathetic as trying to claim the ‘52 title that they didn’t win either!!!! This is why GT is the laughing stock of college football.
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
11:21 am
word, deal with it. Like I said, there’s a crystal football in Tech’s trophy case to PROVE we own a share of the 1990 National championship. And while we’re talking about competition, WHO did UGAG play in 1980 when they won their only national championship? Because they are ALWAYS overrated, Notre Dame was chosen to play you in the Sugar Bowl, and this was the same Notre Dame team that had to come from behind just to TIE the Yellow Jackets that year. UGAG may have been the best team in the country in 1980 (I won’t dispute that), but you never proved it on the playing field against any decent competition. So don’t feed us that line about Tech’s competition in 1990; it doesn’t fly. You win the games you are supposed to win, and let the pollsters handle the rest. In 1990, the UPI awarded Tech a share of the national championship, and it’s in the record books—THERE IS NO ARGUMENT AGAINST IT (except, of course, amongst stupid, whining, butt-sniffers like you)
Paul Johnson
November 10th, 2009
11:22 am
“Alright my little boys!!! Since we can’t play big boy football, I want to teach all of you how to block below the knees, potentially injurying our opponents for life, since we lack the talent to play real football. Lets go!!!”
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
11:25 am
I have to respond to the claim about Tech using illegal substitution too. Did any of you butt-sniffers notice that LSU tried the same play against UGAG, but Willie actually saw it, forcing the Tigers to call time out and regroup. Or did you notice that Clemson used it (though unsuccessfully) against Miami. And I also read that one of the west coast teams did the same thing. There is nothing illegal about that play, in spite of what the head of ACC officials claimed after the Clemson game. He tried to say that it was “deceptive.” Hell, the whole game of football is based on deception. As long as there is nothing specific about it in the rules book, then it is NOT ILLEGAL.
voice of reason
November 10th, 2009
11:25 am
supersize can’t deal with the realities of pulling for a program that steals titles from teams that actually won them. Word, you are very accurate with your summary of the 1990 season. No one acknowledges GT as a champion from that year, only a pretender that played the softest schedule in the country. Colorado earned their title.
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
11:26 am
The jealousy shown here by the mutts this year is overwhelming and oh so gratifying
Supersize is retarded
November 10th, 2009
11:26 am
The ACC ruled that play was ILLEGAL, moron. Stop lying and embarrassing yourself.
Montana
November 10th, 2009
11:28 am
Careful Dawg fans. If GT finishes in the top 15 this year, for the first time in decades, they’ll add another “National Title” to their collection.
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
11:28 am
NO, the ACC DID NOT RULE that the play was ILLEGAL, RETARDED. The head of ACC officials said it was illegal, but he did NOT make any kind of ruling that would have overruled what the on-the-field officials had done (and, in fact, knew about in advance, since Johnson had told them). And IF, as you claim, the ACC HAD made that ruling, then why wasn’t Clemson penalized for using it against Miami???
OcreBugMan
November 10th, 2009
11:30 am
GA Tech 56 UGA 9
Sagarin's Strength of Schedule
November 10th, 2009
11:30 am
Wake beat Stanford and Stanford beat Oregon this weekend. But Wake sucks because GT beat them…
THE CATHOLIC HAMMER
November 10th, 2009
11:38 am
I have talked college football to a lot of people, and the only ones that are extreme SEC fans also are the most ignorant. They know a little about the SEC, but almost nothing about any other conference, or college football in general.
For example, how many SEC fans know that Wake Forest beat Stanford this year? Very few, because it didn’t happen in the SEC, therefore, they don’t know about it. Taking their opinion on anything, even the goings on in the SEC, is worthless. They are not only biased, but ignorant.
macrotech
November 10th, 2009
12:29 pm
Puppy fans REALLY get pissy when they’re 5-4!!! The ncaa says that Tech has four national championships….the most recent being in 1990….that SHOULD cover THAT little argument with the exception of anyone in denial! But, let’s not let something like that distract us from the TRUE hurt going on here…last season, uga was in the discussion for their third national championship and that proved to be more than they could handle (we ALL know that your team was riddled with injuries…it’s football…it happens)! NOW, Tech has an outside shot at getting into the game and it is KILLING pup fans because they recognize that, though it may not happen this season, Tech is MUCH closer to winning their fifth national championship than uga is to winning the sec! Tough year for the dawgs…..GREAT year for Tech!!! GO TECH!!! Tissue anyone?
Supersize that order, mutt
November 10th, 2009
1:35 pm
Voice of (no)Reason, I refer you to the following link if you think that nobody recognizes Tech as National Champions in 1990. Read it and weep….or whine, like all you butt-sniffers do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship