Hawks not getting a lot of love from Vegas or ‘experts’

Mike Woodson is smiling. He clearly doesn't read Bodog.com. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Mike Woodson is smiling. He clearly doesn't read Bodog.com. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

After an offseason that saw the Hawks keep their three best free agents (Mike Bibby, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia), strengthen their bench (Jamal Crawford, Joe Smith, Jason Collins), eliminate both a punchline (Limpy Claxton) and a draft mistake  (Acie Law), and draft a promising guard (Jeff Teague), optimism surrounding the franchise seems near an all-time high.

So here’s my question: Is everybody else seeing something we’re not?

The Hawks won one playoff round last season. How many will they win in 2009-10?

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By now, you’ve might’ve heard that several national media outlets have projected the Hawks this season to finish on par or even below last season’s results. Actually, I have yet to find one that has them either: 1) winning more games, or, 2) winning more than one playoff round.

This hit home a little harder Thursday night. I received an email from Bodog.com, an online sportsbook, which does a pretty good job accurately reflecting the feelings in Las Vegas (and I’m still waiting for at least one hotel-casino magnate there to say: “You know. We really blew it with those odds. I think I’m just going to build a nice little Best Western with a coffee shop over here.”).

According to some of Bodog’s prop bets, the over/under on the Hawks’ win total is 44.5, which is a step back from last season’s 47.

The “dis” factor doesn’t end there. Some examples:

First coach to be fired: The Hawks’ Mike Woodson is 3-1. That ties him with Chicago’s Vinny Del Negro as the No. 2 favorite — barely behind the leader, Lawrence Frank (9-5). Not sure how that affects contract extension talks.

♦ Southeast Division: Hawks are 15-2 to win the division, which is third behind Orlando (1-4) and Miami (13-2), whom the Hawks beat in the playoffs last season, and they’re barely ahead of fourth-rated Washington (10-1). Looking for a longshot? Charlotte is 55-1.

♦ Eastern Conference: Hawks are 20-1 to win the conference title, which is tied with Chicago, Detroit and Miami for a DISTANT fourth behind Cleveland (5-4), Boston (2-1) and Orlando (3-1).

NBA title: Hawks are 45-1 to win it, which ranks tied for 11th. (Lakers are favorites at 2-1.)

A few other observations follow.

The Sporting News has been previewing each team, one per day, backwards from No. 30. The Hawks check in at No. 12 overall and will rank only sixth in the East, behind — in uncertain order as of today — Cleveland, Boston, Orlando, Washington and, yikes, even Toronto.

ESPN had a panel of 10 each predict standings. Most have the Hawks fourth in the East. Once exception is Chris Sheridan, who tabbed them for seventh. His analysis: “Mike Bibby didn’t look like he had a lot left in the tank last season. I was surprised they re-signed him and thought Andre Miller would have been a better fit. Joe Johnson is entering a contract year. And newcomer Jamal Crawford likes to put up 20 shots a night. Hmmm.”

Sports Illustrated picks the Hawks to finish fifth in the East. An excerpt from an unnamed scout: “I like their signings of Joe Smith and Jason Collins because they needed
size off the bench. Those are moves a contender would make, and moves the Hawks didn’t make in the past.

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Other odds:

♦ Georgia Tech is 7-1 to win the ACC championship (regular season), which ranks third behind North Carolina (3-2) and Duke (5-2). The Jackets are 35-1 to win the Final Four.

♦ Georgia is 30-1 (last among six teams) to win the SEC East title. (Kentucky is 1-8.) The Bulldogs are 150-1 to win the national title.

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So there you have it. Do you think the Hawks will be better, worse or the same? You can comment below and I’ve got a poll going.

112 comments Add your comment

J.C.

October 24th, 2009
12:44 pm

Jeff Shultz is a loser !
You are probably the dumbest, most stupid, arrogant person I have ever crossed. You are an idiot ! I wish someone could give an analysis of your home life. Obviously there is not much there. I would like your wife to write a column on how well you run the household. If you were handling your business, you wouldn’t be so critical of others. The problem is you have never accomplished a thing in your life. Anyone that is about something would not even want your job. Jeff, get a life and get over your past failures. Maybe selling insurance is more suited for you !

J.C.

October 24th, 2009
12:50 pm

Jeff Shultz is a loser !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J.C.

October 24th, 2009
12:51 pm

Once again, Jeff Schultz is a loser !!!!!!!!!

Ask his wife !

[...] Hawks not getting a lot of love from Vegas or – experts’ Mike Woodson is smiling. He clearly doesn’t read Bodog.com. After an offseason that saw the Hawks keep their three best free agents , strengthen their bench , eliminate both a punchline and a draft mistakeA , and draft a promising guard , optimism surrounding the franchise seems near an all-time high. [...]

Barry

October 24th, 2009
2:29 pm

Hey Y’all

The time for setting these low goals like “JUST MAKE THE PLAYOFFS” are boggling. This is sports. The goal should be “LET”S WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP”. Those setting these goals are trying to hold on to their jobs. So when they don’t win, or are kicked out in the first round, they can say “WE DID MAKE THE PLAYOFFS”. Even after they reloaded for the year to get better than the previous year. If that is the Hawks goal of just making the playoffs and not winning a championship then this season is useless. THEY ARE JUST MASTURBATING OUR MIND IN THIS AREA. I HOPE I AM WRONG!!

WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
This is a SECRET from a HAWK FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

……………………..”SHOCK THE WORLD!!!”……………………..

J.C.

October 24th, 2009
8:23 pm

Jeff Schultz is a loser !

J.C.

October 24th, 2009
8:26 pm

Jeff Schultz is a loser !!!!

I will keep writing this until everyone understands that writing your opinion and trying to influence your insecurities is juvenile. My comments and Jeff’s are equal.

Jeff Schultz is a loser !

Now, who is the expert and who is the fool ! Both are the same !!!

G- Money

October 26th, 2009
1:42 pm

Last season Sports Illustrated rated the Hawks as the thirteenth best team in the Eastern Conference, and various other expert rating services were pretty much consistent with them give or take a spot or two. I feel as though the Hawks have made some trmendous non-sexy additions, that can prove to be significant improvements. Barring major injuries, I look for them to improve somewhere between four to seven wins over last season.Arriving at the playoffs young and healthy we will see what transpires from that point on.

G- Money

October 26th, 2009
1:43 pm

that is tremendous non- sexy improvements.

[...] Hawks not getting a lot of love from Vegas or – experts’ Mike Woodson is smiling. He clearly doesn’t read Bodog.com. After an offseason that saw the Hawks keep their three best free agents , strengthen their bench , eliminate both a punchline and a draft mistakeA , and draft a promising guard , optimism surrounding the franchise seems near an all-time high. [...]

wxwax

October 28th, 2009
5:33 pm

Harry

October 30th, 2009
10:30 am

This team is hard to peg because of the young players and the style of play. When they’re winning, it looks great, and when losing, it looks terrible! If the young guys can maintain some consistency this year, this team will be dangerous and will scare the pants off Boston, Cleveland, and Orlando. I’m not sure they have enough for LA, but they have the potential to scare some really good teams. Should be exciting! Won’t be a bust because there’s too much talent.