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Javier Vazquez is be pitching for own future, as well as Braves.

Javier Vazquez is be pitching for own future, as well as Braves.

Frank Wren went into the off-season last a year ago knowing he would need to add starting pitching. He will go into the off-season this year realizing he needs to subtract.

One obvious conclusion: “It will probably be a little less stressful this winter,” the Braves general manager said.

Somewhat. But a significant issue has been hanging over the Braves all season, and the core of that issue was on the mound Wednesday night. Javier Vazquez, the same pitcher whose heart and big-game ability was questioned last season by the Chicago White Sox’ turbo-lipped manager, Ozzie Guillen, has been Atlanta’s best starter this season. He went into the Florida game with a 15-9 record and 2.83 ERA (4-0, 1.93 in this improbable September).

There’s also a chance he was starting his final game as a Brave.

“I’m not going to get into our decision-making, and I don’t know, quite frankly, what we’re going to do,” Wren said. “We’ll sit down and look at all of our options. It just depends how we configure our ballclub. At the end of the day, it’s how do we put the best team on the field and what 25 players allow us to do that.”

This topic has been debated ad nauseam. The problem is that the season is about to expire, and we’re no closer to clarity. The Braves have six starting pitchers and one has to go – not just to the bullpen, but to another team. Payroll says this. Logic screams it.

The thought of dealing Vazquez seems ludicrous, even with a poor outing Wednesday. Imagine what the top of the rotation would look like next season with these three starters and their respective ERAs: Vazquez (2.83), Tommy Hanson (2.98) and Jair Jurrjens (2.61). But the only thing we know for certain is Hanson and Jurrjens will be here. We also know Derek Lowe and Kenshin Kawakami probably will be here because they carry bloated contracts that don’t nearly match their production. It’s likely no other team would touch them even in a normal economic climate, let alone amid today’s global budget-shrinkage.

That leaves Vazquez and Tim Hudson. Hudson has a $12 million option for next season. He has looked pretty good since coming off Tommy John surgery, Tuesday’s 5-4 loss to Florida notwithstanding. If you’re the Braves, can you just let him walk?

The answer should be yes. Hudson hasn’t been the dominant top-of-the-rotation starter the Braves hoped for when they acquired him. Now is not the time to assume he’s going to turn into that. If it’s really about keeping the best guys, Vazquez stays and Hudson goes.

Here’s Wren on Hudson at his non-committal best before the game: “He’s come back and he’s shown us that he’s healthy and he’s able to pitch at this level. When we get to the appropriate time, we’ll announce our decision on how we’ll move forward.”

I’m guessing he would’ve given the same answer if I asked, “What do you think? Plums or peaches next week at Kroger?”

It was clear Vazquez did not have his best stuff Wednesday. Through three innings, he had already allowed three runs (though only one earned), five hits, a wild pitch, a hit batter and a ground ball through the legs of Chipper Jones. Then came a two-run homer in the fifth. That said, he has had a career-best season. It’s odd, given the Braves are his fifth team in the past seven seasons, and he was ripped by Guillen late last season for not coming through in the clutch.

Wren obviously disagrees. Consider what Vazquez has done in September and on the road this season:10-2, 2.80. (Strangely, he has struggled on the road.)

“Knowing Javy from afar, and now seeing him up close, I think he’s as solid as a rock,” Wren said. “We thought we were getting a real good starting pitcher. He had a history of durability and going to the post. He’s lived up to it.”

Maybe not Wednesday. But he’s a better option than Hudson.

461 comments Add your comment

The Dust

September 30th, 2009
9:48 pm

Mike Cameron a homer. 5-3 Rockies in the 4th.

Sam M

September 30th, 2009
9:49 pm

The biggest joke on bobby i suck at coaching cox is the fact fla, which came to be a team when? 93, has 2 world series titles and the braves 1. Bobby cox is the worst manager with talent ever in the history of sports.

JEFF

September 30th, 2009
9:49 pm

the most important game of the yr and we get embarrassed by ricky nolasco and his 16k’s .. yea frank wren signing cox again sure doesnt look good now. huh. count how many games he alone with moronic managerial decisions cost them this year. i count and remember more than 5. just tonight greg norton and oflaherty and now acosta. we have many issues to address .. get a true leadoff hitter/base stealer.. get a powerbat in left field.whos ur firstbaseman, soriano and gonzalez are u signing him.. are u signing hudson and vasquez u have a lot of work to do..

Sam M

September 30th, 2009
9:49 pm

Bases loaded fla. This is too funny.

Sam M

September 30th, 2009
9:49 pm

Way to lay out Mccann you lazy turd.

iowabrave

September 30th, 2009
9:50 pm

Need to hold it at 3 runs and we get…Manny Acosta? Really? Bobby Cox helped build the Braves into a great organization, but come on. There is no excuse for that at all.

The Dust

September 30th, 2009
9:52 pm

The Braves bullpen sucks. Gonzo, Soriano and Moylan have been overworked because we have 0 middle relief.

iowabrave

September 30th, 2009
9:52 pm

And no, I don’t care that it worked. You all know 8 out of 10 times, Acosta give it up there.

Jeff Schultz

September 30th, 2009
9:52 pm

Guys – sorry had to check out … working on a complete rewrite for the game column… but a few quickies.
FYI on Nolasco—this is the same guy who allowed 10 runs to Houston in 3.1 innings last month. Yikes. I think they nsaid the 16 Ks was some kind of Florida record.

Bobby Colton – gotta go with the Bison dog.

Dumbfound – I ban only for profanity, not team (or fellow commenter) bashing.

NCBravesFan – I wish.

Preston – No comment.

Scott – If my last name is Bowden, my first name better not be Tommy. Or Terry. Or Bobby.

tmac

September 30th, 2009
9:55 pm

Ok whatever (the dust).

I am just fed up with Bobby Cox. I’ve never agreed with his managerial style, but while the team prospered… what can you say.

Now that this is year 4 of no playoffs, I am pi$$ed off and want the blame to fall directly on who it should. This year was BC worst year by far. I hoped that he might realize it and step down, but that was just to much to ask from the manager of men… i guess.

Now the question is (like it has been the last 3 offseason’s) is next year the season we get back to the post season? I say no because of the man pushing the buttons in the dugout.

Bobby, it’s time to go!

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
9:56 pm

Mac just swung at two ball fours… didn’t he do that TWICE last night?

Peter

September 30th, 2009
9:57 pm

I wouldn’t go to a game this weekend if someone came and drove me there, gave me free tickets and gave me $100 to spend at the ted.

If Torre was here throughout, we would have won at least 3 world series. Bobby Cox, the worst manager EVER! And we got another year with him. WTF????

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
9:59 pm

If Yunel gets traded or leaves the team by any factor other than him not wanting to stay… I will cease being a Braves fan.

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:00 pm

That was a strike Laroche.

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:00 pm

It would be funny to get it to 5-4 like yesterday and lose!

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:02 pm

Yay out best player is an ex brave. helms mvp

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:02 pm

Marlins are losing the game… we’re not staging any sort of a come back here.

The Dust

September 30th, 2009
10:02 pm

This is why Norton was used earlier. Omar. 2 out. Winning run. 9th inning.

Bobby Colton

September 30th, 2009
10:02 pm

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:03 pm

Enter your comments over yonder in the bush

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:03 pm

Should have saved Norton for now. That would be hysterical

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:04 pm

It will be a groundout like every other batter this inning

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:04 pm

Like i said, 5-4 final.

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:04 pm

Teases to the last breath

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:05 pm

Nate up. LOL. Sure out

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:06 pm

He’s afraid to swing.

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:06 pm

Be nice to have Blanco on 2nd right now

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:07 pm

Where did everyone go? To bed i guess.

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:07 pm

Going ahead run in scoring position

The Dust

September 30th, 2009
10:07 pm

DO YOU BELIEVE??????

Bobby Colton

September 30th, 2009
10:07 pm

Braves will win 6-5!

Jon P

September 30th, 2009
10:08 pm

Jeff,

Why don’t you stay away from all sporting events? I noticed that you have been at UGA and GA Tech where they haven’t played well and now you are jinxing the Braves. On behalf of UGA, Tech and Braves fans, stay away!

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:08 pm

Going ahead? It’s the winning run

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:08 pm

Only reason we’ve had a chance in this series is Marlins errors and walks… Washington basically handed us that series… Marlins are trying to hand us this one.

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:09 pm

Believe. I believe the braves will lose like usual

me

September 30th, 2009
10:09 pm

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:09 pm

I wish chipper was up to choke again.

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:10 pm

ROFL. matt you idiot. What a friggin moron.

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:10 pm

tmac

September 30th, 2009
10:11 pm

Wow, that’s a new way to end it.

JEFF

September 30th, 2009
10:12 pm

told ya stupid plays and big mistakes cost them this yr.. season is over….

Dallas

September 30th, 2009
10:12 pm

man… lol… that was horrible

Peter

September 30th, 2009
10:12 pm

Yay for matt don’t pronounce my last name right. IDIOT. what a crap player. hey i swing for the fence every time like francouer. typical stupid braves. hate this team. good bye.enjoy your offseason losers.

me

September 30th, 2009
10:12 pm

what happened??? not in front of tv..

philly fan doc

September 30th, 2009
10:13 pm

Enter your comments here

JEFF

September 30th, 2009
10:14 pm

IN BASEBALL IF U HESITATE YOU DONT GO AND GET BACK.. yea there u go great coaching and awareness of the situation.. if he goes as soon as the ball is behind the catcher he scores. and when mclouth was up why didnt cox and snitker have diaz try to steal 2nd.. he scores on infante’s hit.. again mismanaging of the game..

A-ville Ranger

September 30th, 2009
10:14 pm

That was on Prado.He held Diaz up, if he’d waved him home the game would be tied.

philly fan doc

September 30th, 2009
10:14 pm

Ladies and Gentleman……… Your National League East Champion’s……..
The Philadelphia Phillies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The Dust

September 30th, 2009
10:15 pm

Un-BELIEVABLE! That sums it up. Matt Diaz (a Cox boy) needs to go.

nmd

September 30th, 2009
10:15 pm

please tell me that was not the only pickoff this year of a brave runner at 3rd base….what a terrible time for that mistake.