Take Tech over Georgia right now in the long run

The Jackets are not without their issues, but Jonathan Dwyer created some positive foreshadowing in the last game.

The Jackets have issues, but Jonathan Dwyer created positive foreshadowing in last game.

Sometime today, Mark Richt and Paul Johnson will speak at their weekly news conferences and assess for the world their respective football teams to this point. And if either has actually figured them out, that puts them ahead of the rest of us.

I’ve covered two Georgia games (Oklahoma State, Arizona State) and two Tech games (Clemson and Miami). I saw most or all of the other ones on TV. Both teams leave me thoroughly confused. Also somewhat dizzy.

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Tech has extended its personality changes from half to half (vs. Clemson) to game to game (awful vs. Miami; great vs. North Carolina). So I guess that’s progress. At least it leaves a week between games for therapy and makes for easier billing with the insurance company.

The Dogs can’t seem to figure out what they want to be: a solid defensive but offensively inept team  (Oklahoma State, Arizona State), which makes it easy to dump on Mike Bobo or Joe Cox (or both). Or a relative video game (South Carolina, Arkansas), built for thrills and maybe the WAC, which makes it easy to dump on Willie Martinez.

Bottom line: Both have issues. Neither  looks like a BCS bowl team. But if I had to take one over the other right now, I’ll take Tech. Here’s why:

♦ The Bulldogs are too erratic, too sloppy (minus-nine in turnovers) and still take too many penalties  to lead me to believe they have any shot at beating No. 4 LSU this week, or certainly upsetting Florida. Two other games that once looked like gimmes — Tennessee on the road and Auburn at home — now look like potential landmines. And Tech has to be favored to win the last game of the season at Bobby Dodd.

♦ For Tech, I’m assuming the Jonathan Dwyer we saw before the North Carolina game was an aberration, and the one from last week is the norm. The defense is not great and probably won’t get a lot better. But if the Jackets run the ball, that keeps opposing offenses off the field. Further, Tech doesn’t have a can’t-win game on the schedule. The toughest opponent is No. 6 ranked Virginia Tech but that game is at home in a few weeks. The next most difficult game on the schedule is at Florida State, which just lost to South Florida.

The Jackets could always blame fatigue (three games in 13 days) on their worst performance of the season at Miami. I’m not sure what Georgia blames its worst moments on, other than just not being very good. (If Cox had the flu in Game 1, what did he have in Game 4?)

Right now, it’s looking like Tech will be the better team at season’s end. Agree or disagree? I’ve put up a poll if you want to vote, as well as comment.

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dawgvent.blogspot.com

September 29th, 2009
2:19 am

Yesss…..take Tech and shove ‘em.

dawgvent.blogspot.com

September 29th, 2009
2:23 am

It appears more and more teams are figuring out how to stop an offense that can only complete 3 passes each game. Whether WM will be able to is another story, but I have faith. And Schultzie, in game 4 he had a monsoon, unless you had your head too far up Buzz’s arse to see the torrents blowing in.

Regardless, who cares who you’d take right now, all that will be figured out come November in the cesspool that is known as downtown Atlanta.

drbasic1

September 29th, 2009
3:47 am

and then there was just DUMB…….Dawgs will have a better record than Tech, Dawgs will beat Tech. Had Tech played the same schedule as the Dawgs, they would be 0-4. ACC in no way shape or form holds a candle to the SEC and the same can be said about Tech as they stink with a GOOD coach, and the Dawgs are still winning in the SEC with sorry coaches for the most part. I expect I will not be the only one to believe this.

macrotech

September 29th, 2009
3:54 am

Jeff, you’re opening up a can on THIS one!!!

dawgvent.bolgspot.com, figuring out our offense isn’t tough…been ‘figured out’ a long time ago; the challenge is stopping it! Don’t be afraid of the big city…the mugging will happen within the white lines of the playing field. The mutts can file a police report after the game! GO TECH!!!

superDawg, we KNOW…. “tek will lose to UNC”…oops! We won THAT game! “tek will lose to whoever they play”….is that better?

macrotech

September 29th, 2009
3:57 am

drbasic1, you’re right….THAT was dumb!

UGA_2001

September 29th, 2009
4:11 am

UGA has better talent but is very under coached, hate to say.

But Tech may not necessarily be better come Nov.

Tech does have the added advantage in this argument of playing the weaker schedule.

But either way, I think it will come down to the Governor’s Cup to decide who gets to a better bowl. Both seem like either 9-3 or 8-4 teams.

misterwax

September 29th, 2009
4:12 am

If GT catches the Seminoles standing around the way USF did, it will be great for a road game. Bowden seems ready for the retirement home. I look forward to Homecoming to see if GT can run the ball long distance thorugh the Hokies……must play mistake free ball on turnovers and keep the kicker on the bench 95% of the time. Blair is as confused as Bobby Bowden is.

heeldawg

September 29th, 2009
4:21 am

Who the heck knows? In 2006, Georgia looked awfully inept at this point in the season…and then beat three straight ranked teams (including Georgia Tech) and a good Virginia Tech team to finish the season and ended up 9-4. In 2007, the Dawgs lost to South Carolina and Tennessee early, then went on a tear and won the rest of their games to finish 11-2 and #2 in the country. I have only marginal faith in Willie Martinez and his skills in formulating defensive strategy, but the Bulldogs looked to be developing some semblance of a pass rush this past weekend, and the young DBs who played (Rambo, etc.) looked awfully good. The offensive line had a bad week, but you can bet that Searels will remind them of that performance this week in practice. Caleb King appears to be playing his way into shape; he should have had more carries on Saturday. The talent is clearly there on both sides of the ball. It’s just a matter of putting it all together and eliminating mistakes (turnovers, specifically), mistakes which have made three games that should not have been into close barn-burners and which probably cost the Dawgs the first game entirely (well, that and Coach Richt’s bullheaded insistence in starting a still-ill Joe Cox). Just like 2006 and 2007, I think the jury is still out on this Georgia team. They could be 6-6 (losing to LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Auburn and Georgia Tech) or 9-3 (losing to Florida and some other team to be named later–take your pick). One thought, though: they have a real shot against a highly-ranked team this weekend versus LSU. The Bengal Tigers are overrated (the offense has been underwhelming, and the defense doesn’t look like it has improved over last year’s, which Georgia torched for over 50 points), and if Georgia can have one game devoid of ball-handling misadventures, they could win on Saturday. The Tigers do have the reverse deal going with turnover ratio; they are +8, while the Dawgs are -9. If that trend continues, Georgia will NOT win this one.

With regard to Tech, their defense just isn’t very talented unless the player you’re talking about has Morgan somewhere in his name (Burnett, Derrick). The pass D, in particular, is weak. And the offense cannot make up a deficit by throwing the ball–comebacks must be predicated upon opposing defenses giving up a big rushing play. The offense is okay as long as they are not playing from behind or turning the ball over (remember, the UNC loss last season was more turnover-driven than anything else; Tech actually had over 300 yards rushing in that game). Tech will lose to Virginia Tech and one other team before the Georgia game (take your pick; it’s the ACC, and any team can beat any other team on any given Saturday) to be 8-3 going into the season finale. But I’m not picking the result of the Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate (COFH) game yet–lots of football to be played still, and both teams are too schizophrenic for me to make that call. Who knows which team will show up from week to week? We’ll figure it all out in November. But at this point, neither team is BCS-worthy–and I don’t think that will change by then for the Jackets or the Dawgs. The preseason pundits were, on this point, correct: Georgia does indeed miss Moreno and MoMass (and even Stafford, to a lesser extent), and Tech does indeed miss its defensive linemen. They are both young teams with great potential, but the potential has not yet been realized for either team. How and when the light goes on for each will determine the teams’ relative fates this season.

Brent

September 29th, 2009
4:47 am

Guess the Dawgs just got off late shift at the landfill. Tech will have the better season, losing no more games.

F-101 Voodoo

September 29th, 2009
4:50 am

“The offense is okay as long as they are not playing from behind”

Um, no and you know it. Just look at the Tech win over UGA. We don’t throw bombs, we run ‘em.

gabriel

September 29th, 2009
5:25 am

Enter your comments here
Tech’s highschool offense is being stuffed because there are no slow db’s and linebackers at the ACC and SEC level of play. They have zero passing attack. Georgia will settle down on the turnovers as Cox becomes more comfortable with the receivers. The d will step up despite the incompetence of Martinez. By the last game it will be not if Georgia beats Tech, it will be can they cover the spread.

BobbyCael

September 29th, 2009
5:34 am

To all you idiot UGA fans out there that have been smelling the gas fumes a bit too much, get off the UGA has a stronger schedule bunch of crap. The only team that is viable in that arguement is UF….which ya’ll will lose by 28. Nobody else on your schedule is any better than anyone on Tech’s schedule. This SEC rules crap is a joke…you have UF and Alabama…the other 10 teams in the conference are the same as every school in every other conference. What a joke.

So cry me a river you pups…biggest baby fan base in the nation.

BobbyCael

September 29th, 2009
5:43 am

Gabriel

You’re an idiot. To every moron that wants to call the option a high school offense, you show your level of football knowledge right up front. Just sit down or grab some pom-poms there Tinkerbell.

SpartaBama

September 29th, 2009
5:46 am

From an unbiased outsider, Bama doesn’t play either team this year (unless GA gets into the championship game, which um….no). But, I’d rather play GA than GATech anyday. GA is very elementary in what they do offensively, very predictable…and they don’t have any big play guys this year outside of the one receiver.

GATech spanks GA at the end of the year….even though I’ll be pulling for the SEC

FreddieinDunwoody

September 29th, 2009
5:47 am

LOL…………I llove it. UGAG pulls out the victory over a crappy Arizona St team they should have beat by at least 14 and suddenly their the team to beat again……LOL

ATL For Real

September 29th, 2009
5:58 am

I agree with Jeff at this point, Tech would beat Georgia. Tech can get down during a game, but Georgia is really erratic. Although I am a Tech fan first, I do wish both teams would step up the remainder of the season. Only the November matchup will tell though.

KC in Athens

September 29th, 2009
6:09 am

Spartabama: Maybe so. And Auburn reclaims its total and complete dominance over Alabama.

Brenda

September 29th, 2009
6:18 am

UGA is undefeated in the SEC and if we had scheduled our usual DII opener, we would be Top 5. Richt is the most loyal coach and has the most loyal staff in the country. Look at all the UGA players in the NFL. Tebow is wounded and look at what we did to him last time he was hurt. We will see Bama in the Dome come December and beat their unloyal Coach like a drum. GO DOGS, SIC EM!

BuLLdawg

September 29th, 2009
6:31 am

Jeff Schultz,

That takes the cake.

Georgia plays the Number 4 SoS in the nation and Tech the Number 50. Tech besides us, plays only Virginia Tech, after Tech was blown out by Miami of Florida.

Georgia this year BY STARK CONTRAST plays Coaches’ Poll Number 4 LSU, Coaches’ Poll Number 12 Oklahoma State, Coaches’ Poll Number 29 South Carolina, Coaches’ Poll Number 28 Auburn, Coaches’ Poll Number 26 GEORGIA TECH, Coaches’ Poll Number 1 Florida.

Tech doesn’t play ANY GOOD TEAMS besides us. And, the ACC is a weak, weak, weak conference and HAS BEEN. And, will be.

For 8 Consecutive Seasons and COUNTING now, Coach Mark Richt has finished RANKED AHEAD OF GEORGIA TECH every year in the Final AP Poll.

The stinky ACC conference has NO GOOD BOWL BID TIE-INS. NONE.

Right now today, UGA is ranked Number 14 in the USA TODAY COACHES’ POLL, and Georgia Tech is UNRANKED in the USA TODAY COACHES’ POLL.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE saying Tech is FAVORED over UGA, except you.

Jeff Schultz, where did you go to school ?

Erk Muschamp

September 29th, 2009
6:31 am

I don’t think the UGA defense could stop a mild case of hemorrhoids right now much less Tech’s offense.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
6:33 am

heeldawg, why don’t you publish that book you just wrote. If I were you though I would take the references about Tech out of it. You are clueless when it comes to what they will do.

jacket3

September 29th, 2009
6:34 am

We desperatelt need a passing attack. I hope Shaw is back soon or CPJ tries a redshirt freshman now that he is certain Nesbitt does not have the rhythm or the arm. One thing Nesbitt could do is roll and run. Every time he had receivers down field last week running lanes were open for at least 7+ yards – and enough for first down distance.

State will be fired up and has a pretty good team – they were ranked in the top 5 last week. Gonna be interesting to see which Jacket team shows up Saturday nite.

Go Jackets!

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
6:35 am

Brenda, who are you trying to convince, yourself or the rest of us.

Tech Man Living in Dawg Country

September 29th, 2009
6:35 am

For UGA, there is a lot to be said for pulling out wins in games when you may not have dominated the game. It gives you the feel that you are never out of it, that you can still come back and win. So who knows, are these close games good signs for UGA, or are they bad signs and they will get killed by LSU and FL ? Only time will tell. If I were playing UGA, I would keep my safeties covering the middle of the field. Cox is most comfortable throwing over the middle, and he will throw there, even into coverage. But still too soon to tell on either team, as it is for almost everyone.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
6:38 am

Boy Jeff, you have really upset the dawg nation. Seems to me that the leg humpers are concerned that you might be correct. Anytime you bring up the coaches poll or any poll for that matter you are reaching. The individuals who vote do so based on the past not today and the coaches have admitted that they really don’t know about other teams unless they are on their schedule. Dawg nation a little cheese with that whine.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
6:40 am

Passing attack….Josh was 7 for 11 for 89 yards…just enough to keep them off balance…Tech is not going to through the ball every series…that is just not part of this offense.

hop

September 29th, 2009
6:41 am

both teams have been through their ups and downs,but there is much football to be played that will further define both teams.

if georgia can ever play consistent football without turnovers and tech can continue to improve on defense,it should be a great finish.

it appears the acc has one great team virginia tech and sec has two florida/alabama.they rest are wannabees both tech and georgia have major issues that they both need to improve.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
6:42 am

Remember this, the only poll that counts is the one at the end of the year….you have to play the games…and for the last 4 weeks…those Tech haters are batting .250 but the Tech fans are batting .750…3 and 1

Top Dawg

September 29th, 2009
6:43 am

I agree with you, Jeff.

Alabama Jack

September 29th, 2009
6:50 am

As a public service: ignore all comments with the word dawg in the screen name or any of the following in the text – weak ACC, high school offense, Martinez, loyal, SEC rules, etc. and you significantly improve your chances of learning something.

now that's funny

September 29th, 2009
6:54 am

Georgia Tech can’t complete a pass. Without ANY threat of a passing game Tech will NEVER beat good, fast defenses. Georgia does not posses a good defense. However, please note what I’m about to say. A good,fast, defense: aka Va Tech will dominate Ga Tech’s offense. I believe Georgia is a better team, but their coaching shortcomings could cost them this game, again.

GT Rich

September 29th, 2009
7:00 am

GT has the much easier schedule to finish out and therefore likely to have more momentum going into the game. UGA has more talent, but GT has a bye week to get fresh legs. GT wins because of the momentum and the bye week, not because we are a better team…

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
7:01 am

Statement from last week: “The UNC defense is good, fast, and big and they will dominate. One of the top run defenses in the country, giving up 52 yds per game.” Each week it seems that the team that Tech plays will dominate that offense…you are 1 and 3 in your preditions. I don’t mind your dislike for Tech, would rather not have you as a fan, but don’t make stupid comments about this team when you are clueless.

Lee Courvosioso

September 29th, 2009
7:03 am

Brenda – did some of those fumes get to you while you were cleaning the tub?

snapshot

September 29th, 2009
7:04 am

You never know. Tech is still learning the system and the mutts, well I guess they are stuck in the mud.
Paul Johnson is still coaching Chan’s players and Mark is coaching his players. When Chan’s players really catch on, watch out.

Bassndawg

September 29th, 2009
7:05 am

U dun started a war!! Soon as I git off work i gonna come down thar an whup sumbuddy cuz u dissin my DaWgs!! What?? OK I’ll git sum more hashbrowns goin asap….oops, gotta go

yyyu

September 29th, 2009
7:06 am

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AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
7:07 am

Don’t forget that tough game UGA has against Tenn. Tech

Peter Griffin

September 29th, 2009
7:08 am

There goes a fleabag using their famous excuse “IF” again. Brenda honey – IF the queen had balls, she’d be the KING!

J. Johnson

September 29th, 2009
7:10 am

Enter your comments here The games are fun…but, they are games. Once the players graduate, the Tech grads will be the UGA grad’s boss…and life goes on – at least for “some”.

Sautee Dawg

September 29th, 2009
7:12 am

Jeff,
You forgot to mention Tech goes the rest of the season playing a basketball schedule, while the Dawgs finish out the season in a football conference.
Taking that into consideration, if the Dawgs finished out the season playing Tech’s schedule we’d go to a BCS bowl too.
Your probably right on your assesment though, until the Dawgs prove with their talent that they can play a complete disciplined game, without the mistakes and the dance routine, the Tenn. and the Auburn games look like they could go either way. As for the Gator matchup, the chant “95 North” could take on a whole new meaning.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
7:18 am

Sautee Dawg- IF, IF, IF…why don’t you partition the ACC and maybe you can become a member and get those easy games and you could go to the Orange Bowl every year. I have never seen a bigger bunch of cry babies in my life. No facts just that big ole “IF”. As one blogger said, ” IF the Queen had balls she would be the King.” You are in the SEC East, you have a top 10 recruiting class every year and you still are not an elite team in that conference. Live with it and stop whining.

Jeff

September 29th, 2009
7:20 am

Dont waffle Jeffery- you’re now solid in the Jackette camp- which as the ajc sportswriters go is no surprise. Lets see how your talking at the end of the year.

AZ Jacket

September 29th, 2009
7:22 am

Look Dawg Nation, stop wishing you had what Tech has. It is just not meant to be. You are in the SEC and that is the end of it. Now your next step could be to become an independant as Notre Dame and then you can schedule anyone you choose. Until then take what you have an live with it and please stop coveting what Tech has. Good Day.

UGASlobberknocker

September 29th, 2009
7:30 am

Jeff, I love your column and you can be hilarious..and today you are truly hilarious. But i do think you may need a vacation if you really believe this crock of crap. Are you required o say something nice about tech once a week or what? Tech over Ga in the long run???? As that jerk St Simon would say hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Now thats funny, I dont care who you are.

SuperB

September 29th, 2009
7:34 am

If you get run off your own field by North Carolina– humility should be your mantra.

rhynster

September 29th, 2009
7:34 am

the thing about UGA’s turnovers, is that those are the types of things that usually average out over the long haul.

At the rate they’re going, they’d finish the regular season at around a -27 ratio.

I don’t think that’s likely.

So, once that trend reverses, expect UGA to look better.

Both Tech and UGA are going to win 8 or 9 games, and I think that finale is too close to call.

SuperB

September 29th, 2009
7:34 am

And if you run those average guys off, then you should remember the Miami game!

georgiadawg1970

September 29th, 2009
7:41 am

When you consider that UGA has the best atheletes in the country and Tech has the ones top tier schools did not want, it’s disgusting that we are even havng this conversation. Johnson is doing more with less.

MoDawg

September 29th, 2009
7:44 am

Neither team has overly impressed. You are correct in saying that it’s hard to figure out either team. One thing to consider about this last game for each team…they both won their game. In the end, that’s what matters.

Another thing to consider, though – UGA was expected to be “down” a little after losing two first round NFL picks and our “compliment” to AJ Green, whereas all we heard after Tech’s 3 point win last year was how much better Tech was going to be once Johnson got all of his offense installed. Well…….this offense looks just like the offense from last year, and actually looks a little less daunting with more defenses figuring it out. Speaking of streaky, one minute Nesbitt can’t hit the side of a barn at 3 paces and the next he looks like John Elway.

I guess Tech was good enough last year for a 3 point win, but if they are just a little off this year, maybe that’s all UGA needs to pull out a victory in November. I guess we’ll see. As they say, that’s why they play the game on the field. You continue to play it in your head 2 months before kickoff, if you’d like.

You can have Tech….I’ll take UGA all day, any day!