Reid’s actions suggest Vick is back only as a gimmick

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Professor McNabb: "No Michael -- not that way, this way."

After all of the previous Michael Vick comebacks – He’s out of jail! He’s working out! He’s giving a speech! He ate a Pop Tart! He signing! He’s in a preseason game! – everything could become a little more official Sunday when he is expected to play in a real NFL game against Kansas City.

There’s nothing official yet. Eagles coach Andy Reid won’t publicly commit to Vick playing, and I’m guessing he won’t before kickoff. But his suspension is up, and Donovan McNabb is injured, and messing with Kevin Kolb’s timing probably isn’t a major concern since he’s not that good, anyway. Even the Chiefs expect him to play.

There was an interesting column in the Philadelphia Inquirer today by Phil Sheridan. He wrote that the Eagles’ signing of Vick was less about Philly giving somebody a second chance or even Reid’s belief in him as a starting NFL quarterback than it was his seeming obsession with the “Wildcat” offense. An excerpt:

“This was and is about Andy Reid’s fascination with the Wildcat offense and his belief that Vick can make it into something truly effective. Any doubt about that was removed Sunday and Monday, when Reid went Wildcat happy against the New Orleans Saints, got crushed on the field, and then went out of his way to defend his gimmicky game plan in his day-after news conference.

“It all came together: The Eagles didn’t sign Vick in order to facilitate his Tony Dungy-led return to the league. They didn’t sign him because Reid has been changed by his sons’ difficulties with drugs and the law. They didn’t sign him to groom as a replacement for Donovan McNabb or to flip him for a draft choice in an off-season trade. … This was about Reid’s infatuation with the Wildcat. Period.”

I’m inclined to agree with Sheridan. But if you’re Vick, you’re not going to complain about being signed only to be used in a gimmick offense. Because, like, what were the options — work at the same grocery store as Red Redding when he got out of Shawshank?

But to me, it feeds into how Vick might be perceived by NFL teams. The question: How good would he have to be in the Wildcat to be considered good enough for a start job? Or will he be a gimmick QB for the remainder of his career? Your thoughts?

97 comments Add your comment

Lowcountry Bulldawg

September 24th, 2009
12:37 pm

I can’t resist!

FIRST!!!!

athensdawg

September 24th, 2009
12:39 pm

yesterday, it was fla/ga in jacksonville.
today it is mike vick.
tomorrow, you make your picks and make everyone else whose chain you haven’t yanked mad….
i’m beginning to catch on…….

Tony from Stone Mountain

September 24th, 2009
12:39 pm

Surgeon General

September 24th, 2009
12:41 pm

There is nothing “gimmicky” about a pro athlete who intentionally infects human beings and animals with STDs.

athensdawg

September 24th, 2009
12:41 pm

I think on tuesday, you could write about how the evil (insert reupublicans or democrats as you see fit) are going to cause the end of the united states, you will have all the bases covered!

Cuz

September 24th, 2009
12:46 pm

Vick has no other option currently. Run the Wildcat and be successful or sit on the bench with the other backups.

athensdawg, I think Schultz next foray will be how global warming has effected the attire of NFL cheerleaders.

@stealinhome

September 24th, 2009
12:47 pm

LMAO I have to say I have never understood why Andy Reid is talked up as an offensive “Guru” I have always thought of the Eagles as defensive team that happened to have a pro bowl qb and rb and not a truly grate offense.

jackie

September 24th, 2009
12:50 pm

Enter your comments hereWhy do we have to keep reading and hearing about Michael Vick? He is sub-human trash and should be ignored.

DeeMack

September 24th, 2009
12:53 pm

Help me understand this Jeff Schultz; Why is there such a fascination with a player who is no longer with your home team? Let it go! Let MV do what he does best and stop hating on him. Hell, when he was with your beloved Falcons you never had a problem with him at all and the wildcat. Jeff, do I sense a little fear there!

Shane Thomas

September 24th, 2009
12:54 pm

Jackie if he should be ignored then stop posting comments ;)

mambo

September 24th, 2009
1:09 pm

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September 24th, 2009
1:10 pm

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PMC

September 24th, 2009
1:12 pm

Well I guess he beat Favre in Green Bay when that meant something and they lost to Reid’s Eagles in the NFC CG and by his own admission he was a gimmick QB who didn’t really try very hard… so I mean if anyone can pull him into the Randall Cunningham school of actually applying ones talent to better the team… it’s probably Andy Reid.

Chef montuer

September 24th, 2009
1:20 pm

He has always been just a gimmick

Pi$$onaDawg

September 24th, 2009
1:25 pm

NO more crap on Vick until he actually does something other than put on his jock. WE DON’T CARE. WE DON’T CARE. WE DON’T CARE.

midnite

September 24th, 2009
1:25 pm

Those gimmick offenses usually don’t prosper very long, just take a look over on North Ave. Mike Vick hasn’t done jack since the first half of 2005 except kill dogs, serve time, and squander millions. Vick makes his own on field decisions and it will be the same stuff that everyone knows how to stop.

gabeaux

September 24th, 2009
1:31 pm

He was a great college QB, good in the pros until the league figured him out. He will have to be a gimmick QB because he can’t run the pro set where you have to adjust, run audibles and stay in the pocket. D lines figured out if you rush him, always stay in front of him or you take yourself out of the play. Make him pass and his team goes down in flames. Gimmick all the way.

midnite

September 24th, 2009
1:34 pm

I’m still upset because he put those two nice working girls in Sugarloaf out of business when he got sent up the river. Poor Naughty Nikki and Mansion Madam had to shut down operations.

Jeff Schultz

September 24th, 2009
1:41 pm

Enter your comments hereTony – You can’t say “first!” and not be first. Now go back to the end of the line and start over.

Cuz – Global warming and female attire. Hmmm. Is that why I want to move to Brazil?

Jackie – Because he’s in the NFL and he’s news, whether you believe he’s trash or not.

Deemack – Do I fear him? Did he say something to you I should know about?

Midnite – MV gets blamed for a lot. But pretty sure the Mansion Madam’s bankruptcy wasn’t his fault. By the way, wonder if either ever sold their house?

Bernard

September 24th, 2009
1:49 pm

Enter your comments here Bobby Cox SSSSSUCKS!!!!!!! the most overated good ole boy in the cosmos!!!!

BullDawg Rick

September 24th, 2009
2:03 pm

Vick will become “Slick Vick” AGAIN very soon in the NFL..

I love all you haters.. errrr Dumb@sses!!!

Daniel

September 24th, 2009
2:03 pm

Vick’s got no choice, he has to get back on the field any way he can. I doubt that he will forever be relegated to a wildcat role, but he needs to get some game time back under his belt before a team is going to be willing to give the reins over to him. I think it is a win/win for Vick and Reid.

mooner

September 24th, 2009
2:04 pm

Its amazing how clueless some so called sports buffs can be! Was Vick the only QB in NFL history to rush over 1,000 yards? Wasnt he is so talented with natural ability that he didn’t have to work out nor spend much time studying films yet Atlanta paid him a 9 figure contract.

Has anyone mentioned that he lost well over a 100 million dollars and served two years in jail, yet people are still hating! After two years away from the sport this guy is now running a 4.25 forty yard dash which is crazy fast. He can throw a pass 50 yards with a flick of the wrist!

If the Eagles are smart they will give him an opportunity to show what he can do and groom him to be the francise quarterback! With MV now working out, studying films and given another opportunity for greatness he will silence all those haters whether it be in Philly or somewhere else.

LimoMan

September 24th, 2009
2:07 pm

Is there a major difference between Mike Vick lining up as a Falcon in the shotgun formation (where he rushed for over 1,000 yards)and the so-called wildcat (vick-tory)formation? In both cases his first (and best) option is to run first, pass second. Either way, a rusty Mike Vick is better than most of the other NFL concrete-shoed QBs – passing and running.

BugKiller

September 24th, 2009
2:07 pm

Watch out, Jeff. Bad News and his Freudian Slips about his own impotence (Noodle Arm!) are just around the corner.

Did you know that Tony Dungy employed Football Jesus, Timmy Christ, to help turn Vick’s life around?

Yep, he got a new conscience AND a circumcision for the price of one! Mazel!

Elvisinthehouse

September 24th, 2009
2:09 pm

Dang! will you stop it already with the vick stuff.Let the man get on with his life on and off the field.Schultz is just trying to stir up the racist comments like he always do.Vick is not the only man that play sports,but by the way AJC and crew always bring his name up you can’t tell.

Russ

September 24th, 2009
2:11 pm

Like I just said on Bradley’s blog: At this point in his career Vick is nothing but a Ronnie Brown wanna-be.

Ross

September 24th, 2009
2:13 pm

Burdell

September 24th, 2009
2:16 pm

Mooner — Yeah, I’ll bet he’s studying a lot of film! That is funny. He is and always will be a lazy, short-cut taking, amazing athlete.

Russ

September 24th, 2009
2:23 pm

Mooner – “He can throw a pass 50 yards with a flick of the wrist!”

Unfortunately it will be 25 yards off target.

Ron Mexico

September 24th, 2009
2:43 pm

Dick Van Dyke?

Ron Mexico

September 24th, 2009
2:44 pm

Jim Bob Cooter?

Flappin' Falcon

September 24th, 2009
2:46 pm

@stealinghome is right on the money.
Philly is ALL defense and they always have been. How Reid got labeled as an Offensive guru has always been laughable to me. He can draw up one heck of a screen pass play but that’s about it. McNabb and Westbrook make that offense despite Reid.
Unfortunatley for Vick he will not succeed in the Eagles environment. If he is featured in their wildcat set he will be successful from time to time but he will eventually get punished by the constant hits. And like any great racehorse, he’s one sprained ankle or hammy pull from being just one of the mules. The ESPN reports and news stories on Vick will fade throughout the season and soon he will be old tattered story.

Ron Mexico

September 24th, 2009
2:47 pm

Vick has the ability to take what Mcnabb has built around him to the next level. That is a nightmare for any defense.

GT Brill

September 24th, 2009
2:53 pm

This is like setting out a block of cheese for a mouse, where is FALCONS SORRY ?!?!?!

What's Important

September 24th, 2009
2:56 pm

Mooner, he didn’t “lose” $100 million. He stiffed other people and they will be the ones to lose money. He spent the money. He simply squandered his money on dogs, dog fighting, some weed, etc. without bothering to pay for his houses, cars, boats, children, etc.

Billy

September 24th, 2009
2:56 pm

Jeff,

Kevin Kolb “isn’t that good?” You determined that by watching ONE start?

Sid

September 24th, 2009
3:01 pm

We (excuse me, many of us Atlantan’s) don’t care about Michael Vick down here. Why do you have to go to the Philly fish wrapper to get your storyline……c’mon Jeff, what’s up with that. You gonna ride the MV train till it falls off the tracks……and eventually it will. Let me give you a date……..December 6th…..that is when I will care about what Vick does on the football field. Otherwise I hope he is truly doing the right thing off of the football field.

Greedy

September 24th, 2009
3:11 pm

You guys kill me with the hating vick , Michael is more than a Gimmick , he was a one man show here , there no harvey dahl and the other nasty offensive linemen you guys have here. Roddy was a baby , there was not a all pro rb that could convert a 3 and 2 here when vick played. Alge is a fat back up left tackle at 29 now. Put vick with the weapons they have now and with Tony G , you would be having a new stadium built now that holds 90,000 . you guys are funny , schultz i am still a fan , vick will be more than a gimmick , you and i both know it. He is focused now and he actually with a team that has talent on the offensive line , not the 290 pound smurfs , Jeff i am still a fan of you , but i spend most of my time on Philly.com , MV7 for life. I am willing to bet the site hits are down now to , even though , you guys have a fantasy worthy offensive squad now , nobody cares about the falcons nationally . lol , MV7

long time falcon

September 24th, 2009
3:13 pm

Football Fans and even some NFL GM’s are so obsessed with a QB’s physical skills. If a player is going to be a great QB in the NFL they must have the intangables. The film study, timing, instincts, work ethic, etc. I’m sorry but Vick just doesn’t possess the requiste intangables to be a great QB. Jeff George quite possibly had the best NFL arm we have ever seen but he didn’t turn out be great because he didn’t have the intangables either. In fact if you look at joe montana, tom brady, and drew brees, none of them were first rounders, and none necessarily have great physical attributes or they certainly would have went earlier in the draft. But they are all great because they have the the intangables. It don’t matter that Vick can run a 4.3 or flick it 50 yards with his wrist if he doesn’t have the intangables. INTANGABLES, INTANGABLES, INTANGABLES! Thats what makes an NFL QB great.

Daniel

September 24th, 2009
3:24 pm

Jeff- How about this for a topic- If Vick is successful does that help or hurt the Eagles? the more success he has, and with McNabb injured, the more those Eagle fans will call for Vick. McNabb has already demonstrated he is not very secure for a potential HOF quarterback. If Vick plays well, that could set up a controversy for the Eagles that could be a distraction the rest of the season.

I hope so… for the Falcons sake.

Floridadawg

September 24th, 2009
3:27 pm

Enter your comments here
We have EVERY right to hate Vick. I will always hate him for what he did to those poor dogs. And I will always hate his fans for taking up for him.

Stephen

September 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

Vick, the self-proclaimed inventor of the Wildcat, will never truly find success with it this time around. As soon as he is snapped the ball in the backfield he will summon up some grandiose notions (read delusions) that he is a bonafide quarterback. He has lost a step with this feet and maybe more in his mind in terms of processing what is coming at him in real time and not in some daydream he was having waiting for mail call at Leavenworth.

vafalconfan

September 24th, 2009
4:06 pm

He was a gimmick the entire time he was in Atlanta. When teams figured him out they tried to make him a pocket passer and they discovered he never could throw unless he was running like still at VT and even then his completion percent was below 54%. He CANNOT run a pro style offense and any team owner that gives him the keys to the franchise again will be sorry.

An Observation

September 24th, 2009
4:45 pm

Vick has always been a gimmick and was never a QUALITY NFL QB. The only reason he got to the pro bowl (which by the way is primarily a popularity contest) was because of name recognition and media hype. Once defensive coordinators figured how to defend him, he was marginal at best.

The Eagles will find out soon that there is no way that HE can ever replace McNabb or even carry McNabb’s jock. Simply studying film now won’t help Vick because he doesn’t possess the commitment to learn and master the intangibles needed at the QB position (backyard football style at its best). If Reid had so much confidence in Vick why did the Eagles need to sign Garcia????

DamYankee

September 24th, 2009
5:17 pm

Intangibles.

Boo Boo

September 24th, 2009
5:43 pm

I seem to remember Vicky making it clear that she was a quarterback, and not a return girl, not a wide receiver, and not anything other than a quarterback. Then it seems Ms Blank took those comments to heart, and after having found a real quarterback in Matt Ryan said, “Vicky will never wear a Falcon uniform again.” Of course, all that was when running a non-quarterback offense (circa 2007 Carolina Panthers without Del-hommo, pretending Chris Winky was a quarterback) meant a non-playoff record. If anyone with a brain was running the pre-Smith/Dimitroff Atlanta Falcons, they would have realized Vicky had value, and he played where they told him to play, if he really wanted to play. They held his rights, and they could have sold him to the Eagles for something, rather than opening the cage door and letting him run away free. Heck, Vicky could be learning how to swat down balls in the secondary if the Falcons had kept him. Mark it down as another Atlanta failure (like signing Nick Esasky, and trading Hank Aaron for a box of baseballs).

tim

September 24th, 2009
5:58 pm

See Mikey run, See Mikey throw, See Mikey break his leg…….OH YEAH!!

justsaying

September 24th, 2009
6:21 pm

I heard the felon learned to read in prison, so maybe now he can read the playbook

Jsonic

September 24th, 2009
7:05 pm

Some of this is really funny but since everybody else has thrown in their 2 cents here is mine. While Vick was in Atlanta he was an exciting QB but everybody knew he was a weak passer, he had his moments but not a real threat and he only got marginally better as the years went on. Everybody loved to watch him magically escape one impossible situation after another but in the back of our heads we knew the Falcons were on borrowed time. Even when they went to the NFC Championship game, we knew. I don’t know what the future holds for the Falcons but I do know this, they have an identity now and more importantly…….respect. The old Falcons were a great group of individuals, the new ones, Turner, Abraham, Bolton, White and Ryan well they are leaders and they have brought the team together, not for themselves but for everything that is good about football. They are not larger than life or icons(yet!) but a great team with a desire to preform well and on behalf of all Falcon fans I thank you for now and the years to come!