Comments on: Cox won’t commit to returning for another season http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/ This AJC sports blogger takes things seriously when he has to, but he really would rather not Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:09:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Everyone loves a winner. Time for Cox to go? - The Recycle Bin http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-156349 Everyone loves a winner. Time for Cox to go? - The Recycle Bin Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:45:47 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-156349 [...] appearance, out of the current Braves or the past few teams that have failed to make the playoffs. Jeff Schultz has a blog entry on the current status of Cox; he may be contemplating retirement. But there’s [...] [...] appearance, out of the current Braves or the past few teams that have failed to make the playoffs. Jeff Schultz has a blog entry on the current status of Cox; he may be contemplating retirement. But there’s [...]

]]> By: Alden http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-90635 Alden Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-90635 I'm not here to start any arguments with anyone, but i do wanna add my 2 cents, there is no doubt that Cox is a Hall of Fame manager, taking this team from what it was before 1991 and then made them a contender for 14 straight seasons is no easy task, its never been done and won't be ever again. He took them out of a hole and after 3 years of trying to figure it out, finally helped them get it, and the next year it took inspiration from tony larussa for the cardinals to win 3 of the 1st 4 LCS games, and it took even more from Cox to outscore the Cardinals 32-1 in 3 games, and dominate back to front away from home for both games 1 and 2, but that game 4 messed with his head, and he hasn't recovered since, and its shown in his managerial style change since that game 4 that ultimately ruined this teams chances of ever doing anything great again, and since its been bad calls, short-sightedness, impatience, 1-0 losses, and the list goes on and on. I mean lets say the 1996 loss was like the 1991 series, it took 4 years after that 91 loss to win the whole thing, and in the process they made it to a game 6 of another world series, and then a game 6 of an NLCS, After 1996, they lost 2 years in a row to underdog teams before they could make it to the world series, then the yankees just added to the momentum that only existed from bad calls made from Cox in a series that should have been over in 5 games with the Braves winning 2 series in a row and so much promise for the future, but how many close games have been lost, how many double plays have been hit into that could of been avoided with smallball that hasn't been taught, how many starting and bullpen pitchers and starting players have been given too much room for error, and then if a change was even made, it was too late, how many promising players have rode the bench to make way for struggling, aging, impatient players who have the perfect cocktail for failure, the answer, a lot!!! While this team thinks its got to prove how powerful its bats are and fail miserably, a diamondbacks and marlins team have done the job as an underdog team that braves couldn't do against any team as an underdog or favored team, the same excuses of we don't know how to use smallball, we don't have speed, we don't need to stay patient, we're too good to manufacture runs, among other excuses that have been allowed to flourish through this team as a security blanket to make them feel like its justified why they haven't done well, Cox has been given so much room for error because of his past, the same ambitions and goals are set every year, yet they come up with wait til next year, and that chase is as ongoing as the search for Jimmy Hoffa's corpse, people will tell of how hes gotten ejected so many times, well, when you have such a small margin for error like this team does, the littlest bad call, or right call that the team can't afford to have against them deflates them, they have no momentum, nothing to help carry it, each year is a different lead up to the same ending, now I do respect him, but i'm just saying all this stuff to say his time went a long, long time ago, he sticks up for his players, and still tries, but its a lost cause, the braves need a fresh approach, he's held this team back, like hes trying to make everything perfect, and its far from successful, i'm just stating facts, and i hope everyone who thinks he should stay will understand where i'm coming from, Cox needs to go to make room for someone who has a fresher approach I’m not here to start any arguments with anyone, but i do wanna add my 2 cents, there is no doubt that Cox is a Hall of Fame manager, taking this team from what it was before 1991 and then made them a contender for 14 straight seasons is no easy task, its never been done and won’t be ever again. He took them out of a hole and after 3 years of trying to figure it out, finally helped them get it, and the next year it took inspiration from tony larussa for the cardinals to win 3 of the 1st 4 LCS games, and it took even more from Cox to outscore the Cardinals 32-1 in 3 games, and dominate back to front away from home for both games 1 and 2, but that game 4 messed with his head, and he hasn’t recovered since, and its shown in his managerial style change since that game 4 that ultimately ruined this teams chances of ever doing anything great again, and since its been bad calls, short-sightedness, impatience, 1-0 losses, and the list goes on and on. I mean lets say the 1996 loss was like the 1991 series, it took 4 years after that 91 loss to win the whole thing, and in the process they made it to a game 6 of another world series, and then a game 6 of an NLCS, After 1996, they lost 2 years in a row to underdog teams before they could make it to the world series, then the yankees just added to the momentum that only existed from bad calls made from Cox in a series that should have been over in 5 games with the Braves winning 2 series in a row and so much promise for the future, but how many close games have been lost, how many double plays have been hit into that could of been avoided with smallball that hasn’t been taught, how many starting and bullpen pitchers and starting players have been given too much room for error, and then if a change was even made, it was too late, how many promising players have rode the bench to make way for struggling, aging, impatient players who have the perfect cocktail for failure, the answer, a lot!!! While this team thinks its got to prove how powerful its bats are and fail miserably, a diamondbacks and marlins team have done the job as an underdog team that braves couldn’t do against any team as an underdog or favored team, the same excuses of we don’t know how to use smallball, we don’t have speed, we don’t need to stay patient, we’re too good to manufacture runs, among other excuses that have been allowed to flourish through this team as a security blanket to make them feel like its justified why they haven’t done well, Cox has been given so much room for error because of his past, the same ambitions and goals are set every year, yet they come up with wait til next year, and that chase is as ongoing as the search for Jimmy Hoffa’s corpse, people will tell of how hes gotten ejected so many times, well, when you have such a small margin for error like this team does, the littlest bad call, or right call that the team can’t afford to have against them deflates them, they have no momentum, nothing to help carry it, each year is a different lead up to the same ending, now I do respect him, but i’m just saying all this stuff to say his time went a long, long time ago, he sticks up for his players, and still tries, but its a lost cause, the braves need a fresh approach, he’s held this team back, like hes trying to make everything perfect, and its far from successful, i’m just stating facts, and i hope everyone who thinks he should stay will understand where i’m coming from, Cox needs to go to make room for someone who has a fresher approach

]]> By: Braves made the right call with Cox | Jeff Schultz « CelebrityTwitterGossip.com http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-35411 Braves made the right call with Cox | Jeff Schultz « CelebrityTwitterGossip.com Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:34:38 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-35411 [...] When I spoke to Cox a week ago, he declined to publicly commit to next season. [...] [...] When I spoke to Cox a week ago, he declined to publicly commit to next season. [...]

]]> By: Braves made the right call with Cox | Jeff Schultz http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-35381 Braves made the right call with Cox | Jeff Schultz Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:10:52 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-35381 [...] When I spoke to Cox a week ago, he declined to publicly commit to next season. [...] [...] When I spoke to Cox a week ago, he declined to publicly commit to next season. [...]

]]> By: Ctriv http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-34046 Ctriv Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:11:44 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-34046 Thank God. While a successful regular season coach, on World Series in 14 playoff trips is disgraceful- he was and is an idiot in October who let his kiss-the-players-butt attitude take over. Jim Rome, an unotherwise reprehensible human being had a great line 15 years ago- "Somebody call Mrs. Cox and tell her to get out of the trailer- the Braves lost and Bobby is headed home." Thank God. While a successful regular season coach, on World Series in 14 playoff trips is disgraceful- he was and is an idiot in October who let his kiss-the-players-butt attitude take over.

Jim Rome, an unotherwise reprehensible human being had a great line 15 years ago- “Somebody call Mrs. Cox and tell her to get out of the trailer- the Braves lost and Bobby is headed home.”

]]> By: JEFF DOWDY http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-33779 JEFF DOWDY Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:40:14 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-33779 I dont always agree with everthing mr cox does , but he is a great mananger and the braves are lucky to have him I dont always agree with everthing mr cox does , but he is a great mananger and the braves are lucky to have him

]]> By: erho http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-31757 erho Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:51:11 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-31757 Always a fan, Bobby. Always a fan, Bobby.

]]> By: ijudgenot http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-7/#comment-31375 ijudgenot Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:49:02 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-31375 Keith "You know who the #1 manager MLB players voted for that they would want to play for? Bobby. By a significant margin. That tells me he is a good manager" No, that tells you that veteran players know that he will not call you out when you are not performing. He will always be your vocal cheerleader on the bench and your appologist to the media afterward. Andruw and Escobar are the exceptions in 24 years. Remember when you were in school and they voted for the most popular teacher. The teacher that let you play at recess longer, brought goodies for the class and never scolded you about not doing your work better, was always thought by the studensts as the teacher they wanted to be their homeroom teacher, not the teacher that demanded excellence from the class everyday. Keith
“You know who the #1 manager MLB players voted for that they would want to play for? Bobby. By a significant margin. That tells me he is a good manager”
No, that tells you that veteran players know that he will not call you out when you are not performing. He will always be your vocal cheerleader on the bench and your appologist to the media afterward. Andruw and Escobar are the exceptions in 24 years. Remember when you were in school and they voted for the most popular teacher. The teacher that let you play at recess longer, brought goodies for the class and never scolded you about not doing your work better, was always thought by the studensts as the teacher they wanted to be their homeroom teacher, not the teacher that demanded excellence from the class everyday.

]]> By: Mike Malone http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-6/#comment-31135 Mike Malone Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:53:03 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-31135 Why isn't this a news story--instead of buried in your column? This should be your lead sports story today with reaction from Wren, Scherholtz and some of the players about Bobby not committing to next year. It probably is his last year. Why isn’t this a news story–instead of buried in your column? This should be your lead sports story today with reaction from Wren,
Scherholtz and some of the players about Bobby not committing to next year. It probably is his last year.

]]> By: alligatorimpersonator http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/09/15/cox-wont-commit-to-returning-for-another-season/comment-page-6/#comment-31131 alligatorimpersonator Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:39:21 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/?p=4576#comment-31131 I have utmost respect for Bobby, and I think when it comes to player management there is none better, but that is only just part of a manager's job. The bigger part of a manager's job is to MANAGE games in the best possible way to give the team the best chance to win - and honestly, I think Bobby does a poor job at that. He manages by playing favoritism, sticking to tradition, and making poor bullpen decisions that COST US WINS. John Scherholz was the main reason the Braves had that 14 year run, and Bobby was the reason that we only won one world series title. I have utmost respect for Bobby, and I think when it comes to player management there is none better, but that is only just part of a manager’s job. The bigger part of a manager’s job is to MANAGE games in the best possible way to give the team the best chance to win – and honestly, I think Bobby does a poor job at that. He manages by playing favoritism, sticking to tradition, and making poor bullpen decisions that COST US WINS. John Scherholz was the main reason the Braves had that 14 year run, and Bobby was the reason that we only won one world series title.

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