Cox won’t commit to returning for another season
Could this be Bobby Cox's final season as manager? (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com)
The Braves released their 2010 schedule Tuesday. But that is the extent of guarantees we’re going to get from the organization right now — and I’m including the return of Bobby Cox.
When asked if he would come back for a 25th season as the Braves’ manager next year, Cox would not commit one way or the other.
“We’ll see,” he said. Anticipating a follow-up question, he repeated, “We’ll see, OK?”
He is 68 years old. The Braves are likely to miss the playoffs for the fourth straight season. Cox has come under more criticism than at any time in the past, primarily from a frustrated segment of the fan base (and I’ll get back to that in a little bit).
But he says the age isn’t an issue, the competition still fuels him and the criticism — well, that’s a new one on him.
“I have no clue what you’re talking about,” he said. “That’s why I don’t read them.”
But there is uncertainty about next season. He repeated the, “We’ll see,” response two other times when I asked about managing in 2010. It’s not a subject he enjoys discussing. Cox never likes being the subject of an interview, but especially when it involves a topic that might be perceived as rubber-stamping the end of this season.
“I just don’t know right now,” he said. “I’m not thinking about it. I’m still trying to get us in the playoffs somehow.”
He allowed only that it’s the same decision-making process he goes through every year, saying, “It starts in spring training almost. But you always feel good then. I guess I’ll be sitting down with [management] after the season.”
Let me caution: We’ve been down this road before.
In spring training 2007, Cox made his most emphatic statement ever on retirement, saying 2008 would be his final season. “This year and next year and that’s it,” he said that day at Lake Buena Vista, and I remember being stunned by the lack of hesitation in his voice. “I still love it. I feel great. I want to do this year and next year and then probably hang it up. … I haven’t really told anybody this. But it’s what I’m thinking.”
We’re now one year past that plan.
He knows he is missing out on non-baseball things. He has eight children and 14 grandchildren. But he’s having a hard time dragging himself away from the dugout.
“The game is still amazingly fun,” he said. “To be able to participate in a game every day is every kid’s dream. That’s never changed. I still love it. It’s the competition. Whether it’s a so-so team or a great team, it’s still competition. It’s what you thrive on.”
And difficult to find a substitute for?
“Yeah — there really won’t be one,” he said. “But I think [after retirement] I’ll still be around a little bit. As long as you’re connected a little bit, I think you’re OK. I’d still like to go to spring training and things like that.”
It has been a difficult season. There were high expectations — probably too high. But when Jeff Francoeur, Jordan Schafer and Kelly Johnson all tanked early, and we half-wondered if Brian McCann was going blind, and the Braves were still a .500 team at the end of June — well, it forced this team to grind to get back in the race.
But there’s something about this team that Cox’s critics still don’t grasp: The Braves are only good, not great. With Chipper Jones slumping, they’re closer to average. They have very good starting pitching but sporadic hitting.
If and when the Braves miss the playoffs again, it won’t be because of Bobby Cox, it will be because of the personnel. But it’s the easy answer, isn’t it? Michael Vick breaks a leg, fire Dan Reeves. And where are Joe Paterno’s critics now?
There’s talk he has overworked the bullpen. Yeah. It’s really hurt Mike Gonzalez and Peter Moylan, hasn’t it? There’s talk he tried to depend too much on Jones and McCann. I’m sorry, but is there some deep bench that I’m missing? There’s talk he keeps sending the lost Greg Norton to the plate. OK, that he’s guilty of.
Maybe this is the end. But it was game day again and Cox wasn’t feeling his age.
“Too old is when you don’t like it any more,” he said.
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Vince
September 15th, 2009
9:49 pm
I wrote on Jeff’s column earlier about Bobby Cox so here’s my blueprint for next year. Exercise T. Hudson’s option, then trade one stating pitcher for a starting right handed power hitting outfielder. Keep the bullpen in tact as much as you can and consider giving Moylan a shot at closer. Let Norton, K. Johnson, and G. Anderson go. Assume that with a decent Winter League showing and a good spring training that Jason Heyward is ready to start in right. With the newly acquired right handed power hitting left fielder, and McClouth in Center, and Diaz as the 4th outfielder, the Braves are set in the outfield. Resign Laroche for first, start Prado at second, Escobar at short, and Chipper at third. Let Prado, Infante, and Brooks Conrad move around where they need too. You have decents backups for Chipper and a strong bench. Keep D. Ross to backup McCann and your bench just got stronger. Having T. Hudson, Infante, McClouth, & Prado playing the whole year could make the difference.
jack
September 15th, 2009
9:50 pm
i sure hope if cox leaves they don’t hire terry p he is not even a good batting coach
NCBravesFan
September 15th, 2009
9:50 pm
BIOMASS: I’m not saying he’s perfect, but using your logic Manuel has lost about 7 games for the Phils where he brought Lidge in and Lidge coughed up the lead.
If Chipper was hitting this year and McLouth & Esco had been healthier, we’d be a lot closer. I chalk up this season to that more than Cox.
Herschel Talker
September 15th, 2009
9:54 pm
NCBravesFan @ 9:50 –
Ridiculous analogy. It’s a little different with Manuel when he can spare games to lose. Philly is up by so much that Manuel can afford to let Lidge work out his kinks in the field. Let’s see if he uses him come crunch time in the playoffs if he’s still stinking up the joint. In Booby’s case, when every game mattered, there is NO excuse for continuing to use Greg Norton. Not to mention any other number of boneheaded moves on his part.
YoungerThan ThatNow
September 15th, 2009
9:55 pm
If “loyalty” is such a bad thing, all of you posting here had better hope and pray that one day when you’re in the “sundown” of your career… whether that’s washing cars, digging ditches or managing professional sports teams… you better hope that somebody takes your loyalty to your job into account and doesn’t run your sorry a$$ off before you’re ready!
curtis jones
September 15th, 2009
9:57 pm
“If Chipper was hitting this year and McLouth & Esco had been healthier, we’d be a lot closer. I chalk up this season to that more than Cox.”
Yep, the great Bobby Cox is the only manager in the majors who’s had to endure player slumps and injuries. Not the Phillies. Not the Marlins. Not the Cards, Dodgers or Rockies.
Only the Braves. It’s just not Bobby’s fault. So give him another year. We LIKE 3rd place!
NCBravesFan
September 15th, 2009
10:04 pm
Oh good grief curtis, get a grip man. So those guys go out and who do we have to step up and get a hit or make a play? Kelly Johnson? Shirley Franklin? George Clinton?
Don’t get me wrong, I do think it’s a good time for Cox to step aside and let someone else take over. But Cox is simply not to blame for the lack of offensive & defensive performance over the long haul this year.
BravesFan79
September 15th, 2009
10:08 pm
I say give Cox another year, but as a GM give him NO total crap players to work with. NO Woodwards, or Corky Millers! There’s just no excuse to go into the season giving someone loyal to a fault like Bobby, players with a career average of .240 or below to work with. At least with Norton the guy had success the year before.
And we have all seen what Cox does when given a bullpen where he only trusts half the guys. Then again i will not excuse him for using Soriano/ Gonzo in blowouts like he often did…. now that was just stupid.
Maybe im just being sentimental here in wanting Bobby back….. or maybe im just scarred of the future manager…… i have no doubt the Braves would be just fine with Cox IF someone else was pulling the strings with the bullpen. After all, you really think Joe Paterno is still calling all the plays at Penn State? Hell no, but hes the sentimental leader.
Hillbilly Deluxe
September 15th, 2009
10:09 pm
you better hope that somebody takes your loyalty to your job
Out in the real world, loyalty died a long time ago. Being in my 50’s, more than once I’ve seen somebody pushed out the door so the company could save on pension costs.
I’m not really a Braves fan, just a baseball fan. From where I sit, I think ownership is hurting the Braves but not in the obvious way. I don’t think it’s so much the size of the Major League payroll that’s hurting them. I think the big difference is they don’t spend the money on player development like they used to. There was a time when they seemed to develop more than their share of Big Leaguers. They don’t seem to anymore. I don’t have any inside info on any of this but it’s the impression I get. What you think, Jeff?
Jeff Schultz
September 15th, 2009
10:17 pm
Herschel – To the contrary, I said I couldn’t understand why Norton was being sent up there. But what I’m also saying is he’s on the roster, Why? There’s only one GM and it’s not Cox.
Sonny – I have no problem with debate and passion and people defending their position. I have issues with those who think I have some agenda. … and on Chipper’s groin, I’ll pass, thank you.
Roja
September 15th, 2009
10:18 pm
I’ll mention that in Hanson’s (now) next to last start the Braves were only able to score one run. That was ONE more than he gave up. One run always wins in a shutout. Remember when we scored ten and that wasn’t enough? Was that the fault of the offense? No – the bullpen.
Yep, Gonzo has pitched great. Always gives up one hit and one walk… if you call that great.
And Soriano has been lights out… when he isn’t throwing pitches down the middle of the plate and blowing saves.
We haven’t had a real closer since Smoltzie had that job. We have some “ok” 9th inning throwers, but nobody that the Phils or Fish or for that matter even the Padres or Nats can’t hit.
Power hitting outfielders are overrated if your bullpen has a .215 opposing team BA
derrick
September 15th, 2009
10:20 pm
Simply put… Cox or no Cox.. You can’t win with bargain players and that’s what Braves management have put together and called it a team. Meanwhile the players that cost are somewhere else WINNING.
nolarw
September 15th, 2009
10:25 pm
Curtis, I agree with everything you say. And actually this has been going on now for several years. The principle that Cox has never understood is that “If it’s not broke, don’t fix it; if it’s broke, fix it. How many times has he taken a pitcher out who pitches well for one inning, and bring in someone who blows it. Not many relievers have pitched more that one inning per game all year.
My other point is how many times Cox has a good hitter bunting to move the runners only to have the inning end with those runners still on base, and a WASTED out.
And even the TV announcers were critical of Cox’s removal of Hanson and Vasquez the next night. To those who argue that the Braves only scored one run – the score could have been 9 to 8, and Cox’s move would have still lost it.
ben
September 15th, 2009
10:26 pm
Sonny Clusters is a genius! LMAO! Bobby can do what he wants. Think if Chipper retired next year. Two Bravos in the Hall at the same time! We all knew it would end, it’s just a little sad is all. If Pendelton gets the job I hope we all show some class and treat him like a man. Remember the good times, cause we’re going to miss ‘em
maddawg
September 15th, 2009
10:39 pm
i’m 43 and like a number of earlier posters remember the lean years, vic correll, pat rocket, lee lacey, jerry royster, earl williams, rowland office, ralph garr,darrell evans and of course hammerin hank!(don’t forget Chuck Tanner)loved em all!! i also remember all the LOSING SEASONS! Bobby came in and changed everything. he is a great manager and a certain hall of famer. he goes out when HE is ready. i hope he returns one more year because i think we have a chance with the young pitchers to get back to the fall classic. i haven’t always agreed with everything he has done but who doesn’t get 2nd guessed and which one of you could have done better???? it’s so easy to be a monday morning quarterback.
Bobby, you are forever loved and appreciated by many of us who are lifelong braves fans!!!!
Mitch C
September 15th, 2009
10:43 pm
Jeff, as you know, I’m a regular poster on these blogs. I dont know if it’s “kosher” so to say, to bring up another writer’s blog, as I know this is your blog, but, Mark Bradley and I have been debating all year about whether it’s time for Bobby to go. Mark says this year isnt Cox’s fault. I’ve been saying, that the Braves need new blood in the manager’s office.
Now, as the season ticks down it’s last two and a half weeks, I’m not sure what to think. I still maintain that this team underachieved this year. We should have won the wild card, and we know we wont. With the upgrades of Lowe and Vazquez, plus the wonderful Tommy Hanson, it seems to me that the wild card should have been a lock, even if we didnt catch the Phillies. The home losses to San Diego and Cincy killed us.
Now, eight games over 500 for the season, with eighteen games left, 500 ball gets us 85 wins, and our best season since 2005. More than likely, we will probably get into the high 80s, maybe as high as 87 or 88 wins, unless we have a collapse these last two weeks. (Hopefully not, with the competition mainly being the Mets and Nats, save for the series with the Phillies.).
Earlier in the year, I was rooting for the Braves what the Yankees did to Torre in 2007, and place Bobby in another position in the organization. Now, if we finish strong, I dont know.
Considering that Bobby got his contracts in recent years earlier in the season, I’m thinking he’s done. With the upgrades we’ve made, and this being our fourth straight year out of the playoffs, I just have a feeling he will go to the front office, and TP will be our manager next year.
If I were a betting man, I’d say that the Oct 4 game against the Nats is Bobby’s last as our manager. He belongs in the Hall, and no one can replace him.
JEM
September 15th, 2009
10:45 pm
Idiots. It’s all Bobby’s fault, right? Stupidity.
JEM
September 15th, 2009
10:48 pm
And don’t worry folks. Liberty Media will sell off the Braves as soon as their commitment to hold on to them is over. Then Arthur Blank will buy them up. Believe it.
LexaPro
September 15th, 2009
10:53 pm
Don’t bring Bobby Cox back without a financial commitment for improving the team. We, all of us, Bobby included, need a winner. Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot the Braves are run by some faceless corporate entity that doesn’t care about people, including us fans, and also the local management who have to think of ways to make do. I might as well be pissing into the internet.
aunt Esther
September 15th, 2009
10:54 pm
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Mitch C
September 15th, 2009
10:54 pm
JEM, I never said it was all Bobby’s fault. I’ve been a Braves fan for almost thirty years, and in most of that time, I was solidly behind him, even with the shortfalls in the playoffs, and the 90 loss season last year. This was the first year I seriously mused whether he should retire. As I said, right now, I’m on the fence, and I dont know.
I will be fine with it if Bobby returns to manage in 2010. We will be doing fine with a manager who will one day be in the Hall. There’s another side of me, though, that wonders how this team would respond, after twenty years, with a new manager.
Whatever happens, I will be fine with it. I’m sure that whoever manages the Braves in 2010, whether it is Bobby or someone else, the team will be in capable hands.
Realist
September 15th, 2009
10:55 pm
Bobby Cox holds a great many records, including most seasons managed with only 1 world championship, and most playoff appearances with only 1 world championship. Collect your gold watch and move on, Bobby.
OldTimer
September 15th, 2009
10:56 pm
Chippers always had groin issues. Cost him his marriage.
Aunt Esther
September 15th, 2009
10:56 pm
I hope he comes back for next season.
Herschel Talker
September 15th, 2009
11:00 pm
SCHULTZIE – I agree with you that you admitted fault on Bobby’s part with regards to Norton. But your response to curtis jones, that it’s Wren’s fault that Norton is on the roster, although true, is clearly a way of taking some blame away from Booby. Booby should have let him rot on the bench, and then we could have complained that Wren stuck Booby with effectively a roster of 24. And, as I said, Booby has full authority to have a player jettisoned, just like he did with Frenchy. We all know the story there. Booby got fed up, and Frenchy was jettisoned later that week. He clearly could have done the same to Norton by basically telling Wren he needed to be released.
dave
September 15th, 2009
11:02 pm
If/when Cox retires, please spare us the frenzy of getting some manager who can only win with a payroll, i.e., Joe Torre or Jim Leyland. Torre stunk up the joint here, St. Louis, and with the Mets. He took Bobby’s team to teh NLCS in ‘82, and they got progressively worse during his tenure. Wayne Huizenga bought Leyland a World Series in ‘97, and he didn’t do squat after that, either in FL and Colorado, and how many winning seasons have the Tigers had under his watch? Yost would be good, as would Cito Gaston, if you could pry him away from TO. But you’re going to need somebody with Cox’s ability to make chicken salad out of chicken crap, and be a manager the players want to play for. In 1982, Cox took the dregs of the AL, the Blue Jays, and had them in the ALCS in three years, and then came back to ATL and did the same thing here. Find somebody else who can do that, and with the restrictions the Braves have with the payroll situation. Come on, I dare you.
PS: I will say that whoever gets the job needs to convert this team into a station-to-station team, base-hitting the daylights out of the opponent, rather than one that lives for the long ball. This kills the Braves a lot, and they need to respond in kind next year.
"We’ll see"
September 15th, 2009
11:07 pm
[...] From the AJC That’s all Bobby Cox is willing to say about retirement right now. Not much more I can say about that either. There would be positives and negatives about him leaving, but we certainly wouldn’t know them until he was long gone. [...]
Rick
September 15th, 2009
11:15 pm
Bobby has won many games and lost some too….
He does some dumb things. He’s only won one world series.
However, Bobby Cox is a heck of a baseball manager and a first class guy. He is like a dad.
I have been a Braves fan since 1966. I have to say I love Bobby Cox. The old man is a class act and a great manager, most of the time. Bobby is Bobby.
Please don’t retire. That will be the final loss for us old Atlanta sports folks.
I know that I will shed a tear or a few.
falcon
September 15th, 2009
11:16 pm
Bobby is a tired act. Craig Biggio would be my pick to replace booger.
"We’ll see" « wire2
September 15th, 2009
11:21 pm
[...] From the AJC That’s all Bobby Cox is willing to say about retirement right now. Not much more I can say about that either. There would be positives and negatives about him leaving, but we certainly wouldn’t know them until he was long gone. [...]
Count de Monet
September 15th, 2009
11:50 pm
To all you Cox apologists…When will it be time for him to go? when he is 69,79, 89, 99? Why don’t we let him stay as long as he wants. We can let him die in the dugout. Make a nice little flower memorial on the dugout steps where he last called on Norton to pinch hit in a crucial situation.
As a very wise blogger named Robert said a long time ago: “The Donkey in the dugout must go”.
Justafan
September 15th, 2009
11:51 pm
The Braves need new management. Bobby has had his great years and will be a HOF manager but its time Braves get some new blood. Young and exciting mgr.someone to fire up the team and the FANS. I’ve had it with BC and his good ole boy theory. I missed 4 games in 8 years……but I have not been back in 2 years and will not return till Cox is gone. I’ve had it with him, same BS over and over. From the look at fans in stands, other have the same believe.
I still pull for players but Cox make me throw up. Please retire Bobby and spend time with the wife and kids.
Count de Monet
September 15th, 2009
11:52 pm
If they let Donk manage until he is 109 he might break Connie Mack’s record.
Justafan
September 15th, 2009
11:55 pm
agree, Count …Robert has been right along time .
Growler
September 15th, 2009
11:56 pm
hey Jeff like the column but have to take issue with your [subtle?] compliment towards Gonzalez at the end. Have you been paying close enough attention? Forget his ERA or batting average against… etc. He’s been AWFUL in clutch situations.. personally cost the Braves at least 5 games that I can think of (including what turned out to be key contests in Colorado) — blowing save after save in the 8th, if not 9th. And how many games, exactly, are they behind Colorado in the loss column now? I surmised in another blog several weeks ago that because of their spotty offense the bullpen would be the X-factor down the stretch. And while their stats my show above average — they haven’t performed as needed to carry the club to the Wild Card —- especially Gonzalez.
As for Bobby, well, the time is long past for him to go. I respect him tremendously and would love to see him in Cooperstown the day he’s inducted into the HoF.. but he doesn’t do enough to maximize the team’s chances to win in tight games. It never mattered that much during the regular season division title run, but it matters now.
scottbravesfan
September 15th, 2009
11:56 pm
Bobby has had a bad year and has not managed the bullpen well at all or the starting rotation. One 9 inning complete game this year? And that happen this weekend. Tommy Hanson not being allowed to finish that game in Houston pissed a lot of people off.
PhillyPhanatic
September 15th, 2009
11:57 pm
The Braves had Glavine, Maddux and Smoltz in their prime and only won 1 title, and that was in a strike year??? What a joke! No wonder up in Philly they call Atlanta “loserville!” I can’t wait to move back to Philly—too many rednecks down here.
ND Brave
September 16th, 2009
12:02 am
I really hope Bobby comes back for another season. He’s a great guy and the players like playing for him. He respects his players and they respect him back. Plus, he reminds me of my grandpa. I met him once and he’s a great guy. PLEASE COME BACK FOR ANOTHER BOBBY!!!!
Herschel Talker
September 16th, 2009
12:03 am
PhillyPhanatic likes men
Herschel Talker
September 16th, 2009
12:04 am
ND Brave:
Just what we need. A manager that reminds us of your grandpa. That will surely bring us titles. You putz. Enough with the sentimental BS; let’s get a winner.
VoiceOfReason
September 16th, 2009
12:16 am
Cox has never been able to manage a pitching staff. Mazzone propped him up while he was here. Cox has stayed two years too long. The players will always love him because he never pushes them. PERIOD. Get Yost or Gonzalez and let’s get back in contention with this solid pitching staff. And by the way, I think Cox reads this blog………
Real Coach
September 16th, 2009
12:20 am
You complaners have no clue about coaching what so ever. If Hanson comes down with a shoulder injury then you guys would whine and gripe all winter. Major league players always name Bobby as the manager they would most want to play for. Bobby will be a first ballot HOF for sure. All I hear is CHANGE. Who would have 1/100th the experience that Bobby has?
Ken Stallings
September 16th, 2009
12:22 am
Jeff, while I realize you had a journalistic responsibility to press the question multiple times, the reality is Bobby Cox’s history is to focus on the present and remain non-committal with regard to the future.
That said, I wouldn’t read too much into his statement regarding managing next season. I think he will be back. I think Cox has a desire to turn this thing around and make the playoffs again. What the Braves do in the off-season will have the lion’s share of the decision point for Bobby Cox.
Real Coach
September 16th, 2009
12:26 am
Mazzone propped up Bobby when he was here? Have you lost your mind? Even YOU,VoiceOfReason would have made a pitching coach with the talent in Atlanta with Leo. Oh by the way the other major league teams are beating Leo’s door down today. You must be NUTS.
Mitchell
September 16th, 2009
12:30 am
This isn’t a monarchy for F’s sake. He doesn’t just get to be King of the Braves until the untimely inevitable or whatever. But who says he has to be removed from the organization.?
A demotion would seem to be in order. He probably won’t like it. He has his own ideas and he might differ from his successor but how do you think Frank Wren feels?
There’s no need to roast him over the coals, I mean clearly that isn’t go to happen even from the most incredulous of columnists (Bradley, anyone?), but if the front office wants to prove to the “fan base” that winning the division and the World Series is a priority, they will replace him with somebody who commits himself to achieving that goal.
Why do they think nobody shows up? Do they really not know? The level of enthusiasm and engagement of the crowds at Turner Field is completely reflective of Bobby Cox’s demeanor and style of management: uninspired, unimaginative, redundant, etc.
Here’s a suggestion, if you’re unhappy with attendance, don’t go around acting like a jilted lover; don’t insinuate that the outcome of a game is in any way related to it (which by the way, has been done and is wholly unprofessional) or dismiss bloggers for registering legitimate complaints and concerns about the direction of the club.
It’s one thing to be a mediocre baseball team in the heart of college football country, it’s another to lose four World Series out of five, but to expect to lure fans with disco and Hawaiin shirt themed nights is insane.
If the Braves front office doesn’t replace Bobby Cox at the end of this season… I don’t know how to finish this sentence.
Not trying to be dramatic or fatalistic, I just don’t know how to finish it.
Herschel Talker
September 16th, 2009
12:31 am
Real Coach @ 12:26 –
“Even YOU,VoiceOfReason would have made a pitching coach with the talent in Atlanta with Leo.”
And even YOU could have had the success managing the team that Booby the Idiot had with that kind of talent, and I think you could have won more World Series. You are a putz. The man has no tactical skill whatsoever. The best he can come up with is the old lefty-righty thing. He has no clue how to handle a bullpen. His relievers year in and year out have far more appearances than any other relievers. He complains about balls and strikes far more than any other manager. He is a clown and a sideshow and needs to be jettisoned ASAP.
Oh, and by the way, you like men.
ROBERT
September 16th, 2009
12:39 am
BOBBY COX NEED’S TO RETIRE SO WE CAN GET A NEW MANAGER
ABravesFan
September 16th, 2009
12:42 am
There is no denying that Bobby overuses the bullpen. When the lead is 4 or 5 runs, we really shouldn’t use Soriano or Gonzalez (unless they haven’t pitched in 3-4 days). Then, we have that critical stretch earlier this month when we actually got in a winning streak (and consequently Soriano, Gonzales, Moylan, and then Kris Medlen working for 3+ straight days) where on the 4th and 5th day, the bullpen collapsed to cause us the momentum.
With all that said, Bobby Cox IS Braves baseball. It would be sad when he does decide to retire and leave the Braves. It’s just that Bobby Cox the Cheerleader is that much better than Bobby the Strategist.
Real Coach
September 16th, 2009
12:44 am
Herschel, you my man are an idiot.As for liking men I sense a bit of worry about your manhood. No clue how to handle a bullpen, Bobby forgot more last week than you can imagine.Are you so stupid as to not see that the talent level in Atlanta is not up to championship material. With the team that Bobby has he has done about all he can do, by the way I have not seen him hit into the first double play or strike out a single time this year. You sir are a jerk.
Duke
September 16th, 2009
12:46 am
If you think Bobby Cox needs to be fired then I think you’re being a little greedy. That applies to thebpeople who this Georgia needs to fire Richt. Just stupidity.