Vick has a better chance for success in return than Favre

Is Michael Vick pointing in the same direction as his career?

While it seems like 90 percent of readers tell me that they’re sick of stories about Michael Vick, while the other 90 percent continue to consume every word about him — and I’ll get back to you about the math just as soon as I can figure it out — I think there’s something we can all agree on. Tonight’s kind of a big deal.

Tonight, Vick will be on a football field. In a football uniform. Playing in a football game. And not in a prison yard. Or worse, the UFL.

Vick will see only limited action in Philadelphia’s exhibition game against Jacksonville. But the fact that it will be the first time any of us see him sweat outside of a courtroom since Dec. 31, 2006 — when he and the Falcons closed the regular season with a loss at Philly — is significant. It’s not quite Mike Tyson getting out of prison and returning to

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squash Peter McNeeley. But it kind of has that, “He has returned!” feel to it.

We know Vick can shine on a football field. We’ve seen it. What we don’t know is what he can do now, or in the future. He was 26 and declining when he left. Now he’s 29 and desperate. Even Eagles coach Andy Reid doesn’t know what to expect, saying, “I can only go off what I’ve seen in practice and it looks like he’s moving around pretty good, but again realistically it’s been two years.”

Two years and eight months, actually.

What a surprise. Players in huddle don't like Brett Favre.

The question of how good Vick will be this season is relative, really. He can’t be graded on the same scale as a starting quarterback. Maybe not even a backup quarterback. Chances are, he’ll be more of a weekly wrinkle in Philly’s offense.

Will he be successful? Honestly, I have a better feeling about Vick than I do Brett Favre. It all goes to expectation level and what each quarterback is there to do. Vick is there to expand Philly’s offense. Favre is in Minnesota to get the Vikings to the Super Bowl. The first scenario is realistic. The second I find laughable.

ProFootballTalk.com and ESPN already have reported what seemed predictable: Favre has alienated a segment of the team with his late arrival. Football is a game about chemistry. Favre is a lab experiment gone bad. ESPN quoted sources as saying Favre has “little support” in the locker room, and several players prefer either Tarvaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels at quarterback. Coach Brad Childress will be out of Tums by Week 2.

That’s my opinion. Let me hear your’s. I’ve got a poll above: Who has the greater chance for success this season, Vick or Favre? I’m casting the first vote.

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Marcus

August 27th, 2009
5:41 am

up early, eh?
Guess I am first (sleep deprived, as I am).
I agree this is a big deal. Being that I am in an ATL sports fan in the Philly market, believe me, I have gotten a fill of anti-ATL rhetoric (Vick, Braves ….err, Hawks not so much, but hopeful :) )
I will be watching tonight, hoping he acquits himself well.

Marcus

August 27th, 2009
5:45 am

Also, “success” is kinda relative because Vick is a component to an NFC title game participant, Farve is expected to be cure-all for a wild-card participant. Also, I don’t know what the ruling was on the “Williams wall” but folks penciling in the Vikes for SB contention don’t seem to factor in their potential for missing games on the Vikings chances to be playoff-contention.

Alan

August 27th, 2009
5:54 am

The Vikings will be a train wreck this season.

Vick Supporter

August 27th, 2009
6:35 am

The day is finally here.

The Great Mike Vick Has Returned

drew

August 27th, 2009
6:48 am

The Vikings deserve whatever they get…karma’s a beeaatch. I hope they and Farve stink it up this year.

Good luck to Vick…he’s paid his price, I’d like to see him have some success. I actually like Vick…it’s only his dumbazz, jock-sniffing, Ryan-hating, diehard supporters I can’t stand.

Jim

August 27th, 2009
6:52 am

Vick will do better than Favre. The fact that Favre has little support in the locker room should surprise no one. The guy intentionally misses all the hard work of training and then walks in to the starting job. Add to that his going back and forth about playing for the last several years and there is no surprise about people on the team not liking him. The Vikings should have got the hint from the Jets players last year. Several of them openly called Favre out for not being a good team mate and for being someone only interested in himself. So yeah, I think Vick has the better year.

honest_abe

August 27th, 2009
6:53 am

i believe both will fail. favre’s fall will be more severe since he’s a starter… however, neither will find success.

that vikings team is a mess.

vick’s strength was/is his unbelievable speed… two years of jail and i doubt he is still running that 40 in sub 4.2 secs. but now all of a sudden a guy starts stayin after practice for 20 minutes and thats supposed to help him start protecting the ball as well as help him grow a pair allowing him to stay in the pocket? me thinks not. his accuracy was always horrible and i don’t see how 2 years in jail could’ve made that any better. he throws better to target that is not moving. he can’t throw to a spot to save his life. he sucked as a qb and he’s not going to get better anytime soon.

Mac

August 27th, 2009
7:04 am

Vick’s biggest obstacle will be off-the-field stuff. He was kind of out of control before prison, and now that he’s out, learning to walk the straight and narrow without hangers-on will be a big challenge. Hope he’s up to it for his and his family’s sake.

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Sarcastic Blogger

August 27th, 2009
7:15 am

Mr. Schultz,
Have you considered writing about a home team?

Not it

August 27th, 2009
7:16 am

Vick Supporter, that’s disgusting. You’re a sad, sad person.

JustaThought

August 27th, 2009
7:37 am

I’m still trying to figure out why the ViQueens did not draft a qb……Chances are Favre will not make it thru the season, then that clown coach will have to turn to one of the guys and say ok, go lead us…..It’s obvious Bozo don’t quite understand the meaning of TEAM. I look for both Bozo and Favre to be done by Thanksgiving.

CJ BLENCKE

August 27th, 2009
7:42 am

WHATEVER WHO CARES VICK’S NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP THE FALCONS THAT PROBABLY WON’T HAVE A CHANCE AT A WILD CARD SLOT AND FARVE AT LEAST HE THINK’S HE CAN DO IT SO WHO CARES VICK IS BACK FARVE WILL NEVER RETIRE WHAT IS HE LIKE 42 AND STILL TRYING TO COMPETE GO FOR IT.

JustaThought

August 27th, 2009
7:42 am

I feel real bad for AP, but he’s probably going to be getting OLD real fast.

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VICK FAN 4 LIFE

August 27th, 2009
7:46 am

It’s a beautiful day in Atlanta…Mike Vick with a NEW TEAM = NEW FUTURE…..GO VICK :)

Have a great day everyone!

VICK FAN 4 LIFE

August 27th, 2009
7:47 am

Vick has a lot of Fans – ALL OVER THE WORLD….say what you may but our God gave him FAVOR :)

MACrulesPCsucks

August 27th, 2009
7:47 am

Good question Jeff. I”m leaning more towards the idea that Michael Vick will experience more success than Buckhead Brett. I say this because: 1. Vick has the support from his team to succeed whereas Brett does not. 2. Vick is not 39 years old. Favre surpassed his prime long ago. 3. A lot is riding on Vick’s performance this year. This will determine his longevity in the league whereas Brett has nothing to lose.

Titletown

August 27th, 2009
7:49 am

“No weapon formed against you shall prosper”……Welcome back MV7!!

Jeff Schultz

August 27th, 2009
7:49 am

Marcus – actually wrote it last night and had it timed for 5 … A lot of intrigue surrounding how MV does.

Alan – it will be more fun watching Vikings blow up than it was watching Cowboys blow up.

Mac – Agree. Off the field, both in the public and in work habits. If he conquers those two things, he’s got a chance.

Sarcastic blogger – perhaps you should check out my archive.

Navigator

August 27th, 2009
7:50 am

Of course MVick’s fans will continue to support him, they never stopped. As far as I can tell, all of Favre’s fans were in Green Bay, and they aren’t fans any more. I think Favre’s age will finally hit him in the middle of the season (at Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, etc.) when it’s cold and some 300 lb. lineman tries to plant him in the ground. He’ll finally ask himself what he’s doing here, and the rest of the season will be long and tedious. I really do think Favre will never put on a uniform after this season.

Jim

August 27th, 2009
7:51 am

After all the ‘hullabaloo’ about Farve the ‘returning savior’, it’s totally unrealistic to think that he can perform like he did 3-5 years ago….In my mind Farve’s beome what I call an ‘NFL football whore’, selling himself to the highest bidder, and to ‘hell’ with what even his team-mates think!….That’s a sure prescription for disaster!

Pop

August 27th, 2009
7:51 am

The haters PRAYED for this day to never come!! God is Good!!

Bruce

August 27th, 2009
7:54 am

I think success is a relative term for both guys. But going to a superbowl is tough every year. But for him to win it in one season is a stretch. Vick issue partly is football. But people didn’t want to sign him this season it had nothing to do with his football playing skills. So as long as Vick keeps a low profile he will start again. I still belive after two years Vick is probably still faster than 89% of the people on the field. He still has a cannon and accuracy can be worked on. And I understand its ok not to like Vick but to call someone who is a supporter of him sad, now that is truly sad.

Joe

August 27th, 2009
7:56 am

MV hasn’t played NFL football in almost 3 years….its impossible for him to come out this year and look like the old Mike Vick….Farve played last year, he better have an MVP season I don’t care HOW OLD HE IS….$12 million this year?? If he’s unable to play, he should have stayed his azz home with his family!

Jim

August 27th, 2009
7:57 am

In my mind Farve’s become an NFL football ’streetwalker’, selling his wares to the highest bidder/most desparate owner….and in this case I think ‘Ziggy’ has made a huge mistake….Age is everyone’s enemy in sports and it appears Farve will fall far short of expectations

MightyQuinn

August 27th, 2009
8:08 am

Vick has a much better chance for success than Favre. Vick naysayers around here have always questioned his intelligence, both as a QB and a person, (myself included). But if what he stated in the 60 Minutes piece is true and he didn’t study and didn’t dedicate himself to becoming a better QB, and he now is doing so, we will find out what he is capable of doing. And if he actually has the intellect to comprehend at a NFL QB level, and hasn’t lost too much speed, he could be a tremendous weapon and the Eagles QB of the future. But, off topic, being able to kill those dogs in the manner that he did indicates to me a sociopath. Talk about dog fighting being part of the culture all you want, but killing animals with your bare hands and looking for other creative ways to torture them to death are signs of extreme deviant behavior. So, the question is, can a sociopath truly be rehabilitated? We shall see.

Dixie Normuss

August 27th, 2009
8:19 am

But you can bet the farm that Farve will never be arrested for brutally killing animals or dog fighting. He will never flip off the fans, never try to sneak a water bottle with a secret weedcompartment through airport security, never have a posse, never be treated under an alias for VD, never look the team owner and NFL commish in the eye and lie to them, never have a baby-mama, ……..shall I go on? Vick is a THUG. So go ahead Schultz and delete this comment. The truth is the truth!!!

greg

August 27th, 2009
8:19 am

Someone said “the great Mike Vick”…please he is not great…he’s a dog killing thug who happens to have an amazing gift…that’s it…there is nothing great about him.

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:23 am

THE SHOW IS BACK, LET THE HIGHLIGHTS START TONIGHT ON SPORTS CENTER BECAUSE WE ALL WILL BE LOOKING FOR THEM AND THIS IS HIS FIRST GAME BACK.

Jeff Schultz

August 27th, 2009
8:25 am

Jim — Favre/streetwalker. I like the analogy.

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:25 am

GREG, EVERYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT MV YOU READ, WHY IF HE’S NOT THAT GREAT

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:27 am

ALL YOU’LL WHITE PEOPLE GET ON HERE AND CALLED PEOPLE THUGS, WHAT IS A THUG?

bugman

August 27th, 2009
8:31 am

Just based on the shear volume of touches Faver has more potential to do something than Vick. If Vick had been at least one camp this year and was starting, definitely would get my vote. But then again, what is your definition of “success”?

And one more thing while I have this space: when will everyone STOP pandering to Favre and start pronouncing his name the way it’s spelled?! Primadonna punk.

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:31 am

JEFF, DID THEY SAY VICK WAS IN GREAT SHAPE

MightyQuinn

August 27th, 2009
8:33 am

MV7: Not being able to construct two coherent sentences is a starting place, since you asked.

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:37 am

MIGHTYQUINN, SO WHAT IS A THUG

M Anthony

August 27th, 2009
8:40 am

Rather people like it or not, the folks of this city can support who they want. A lot of people here like MV and will always like him. Others will not. Just like there are people here who like the rebel flag and others do not. Brett is a hall of famer. Both franchises and cities made lots of money off these guys. Try hating on that aspect of the game.

Jeff Schultz

August 27th, 2009
8:41 am

Bugman — “success” is relative to expectation level and what they are there to do.

MV7 — “great shape” maybe for you and me. But football shape and timing are different matters. That will take a while. (PS — don’t race-bait.)

To all — if you persist in race-baiting I will close this thread.

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 27th, 2009
8:41 am

If you can legally walk the streets and have a skill set that an employer convets and an agreement can be struck, it’s called gainful employement.

The NFL is no different.

MightyQuinn

August 27th, 2009
8:43 am

And just to show I am not biased in my criticisms, Buddman, its shows not “showes” and the restaurant is Wendy’s not “Windy’s”. Just shows that there are ignorant people on both sides of this argument.

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 27th, 2009
8:43 am

Jeff, you can close this thread, just don’t pull it.

I’m afraid my sleeve may fall off.

PETA Watcher

August 27th, 2009
8:45 am

MightyQuinn

August 27th, 2009
8:48 am

The starting place for a thug is ignorance. People with education and intelligence generally don’t become thugs. And this isn’t race based. See my post at 8:43. I’m sure Buddman is white.

Former Favre Fan

August 27th, 2009
8:48 am

It doesn’t surprise me at all that some of Favre’s team are alienating him. Swooping in at practically the last minute – I knew they were going to be pissed off. Screw Favre and screw the stupid Vikings. However, I do feel bad for the players on the team.

Vick is certainly not a favorite of mine – never has been, but I think he will do okay and most likely he will keep his nose clean… he has too.

MightyQuinn

August 27th, 2009
8:52 am

To paraphrase the old chinese proverb, better to not post and have people wonder if you are a fool, than to post and remove all doubt.

MV7

August 27th, 2009
8:53 am

MIGHTYQUINN MY COMMENT WERE NOT ABOUT YOUR STATEMENT AT ALL, BUT I JUST HERE THUG THIS AND THAT NOW AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. I’M TRULY SORRY FOR COMPLETION A SENTENCE FOR YOU.

Rev. Right

August 27th, 2009
8:53 am

Both will have their moments, but farve has more responsibility than vick. he will be starting and expected to lead them like the favre of old. Vick just needs to hand off or throw a few passes maybe 3-4 times a game as long as Culpepper is healthy.

Brett who was addicted to pain killers yet has not missed a game since then(hmm) will eventually have 2-3 bad games, enough to hurt them playoff wise. He will retire but comeback next August to play again for the vikes

Rev. Right

August 27th, 2009
8:57 am

Both will have their good moments and both will screw up at some point on the field. Farve has more to lose since he will start and the pressure is on for him to lead. Farve will eventually have 2-3 bad games where he throws 2-3 int when he tries to force the ball like he is 30 yrs old.
Vick needs to stay clean and make a few plays here and there and he can get by.