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	<title>Comments on: Thrashers&#8217; good fortune: Kovalchuk&#8217;s here, Heatley&#8217;s gone</title>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/08/21/thrashers-good-fortune-kovalchuks-here-heatleys-gone/comment-page-2/#comment-29739</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Heatley got his wish.  He&#039;s a Shark.  And the &quot;cradle-to-grave&quot; coddling of Dany Heatley ... continues unabated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Heatley got his wish.  He&#8217;s a Shark.  And the &#8220;cradle-to-grave&#8221; coddling of Dany Heatley &#8230; continues unabated.</p>
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		<title>By: scottbravesfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottbravesfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snes,

The Thrashers have a lot of things but a mediocre coach is not one of them.  We have a terrible GM who has never been given that much to work with from ownership but our coach is rock solid. 

And like Alan said, it&#039;s cool to be a fan of your team but you are coming across as a serious homer.

Jeff,

Good job with the column and it&#039;s nice to see Sonny Clusters gracing us with his presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snes,</p>
<p>The Thrashers have a lot of things but a mediocre coach is not one of them.  We have a terrible GM who has never been given that much to work with from ownership but our coach is rock solid. </p>
<p>And like Alan said, it&#8217;s cool to be a fan of your team but you are coming across as a serious homer.</p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Good job with the column and it&#8217;s nice to see Sonny Clusters gracing us with his presence.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mediocre coach? Are you kidding? You&#039;ve basically shown exactly what little you know about the Thrashers, while playing up the Senators. It&#039;s good to be a fan and support your team, but there also comes a time to be objective. 

Both of our organizations have problems, but I would daresay four coaches in three years is quite noteworthy, despite the recent conclusion to the ownership drama, the inept GM, and all the problems that has come from that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mediocre coach? Are you kidding? You&#8217;ve basically shown exactly what little you know about the Thrashers, while playing up the Senators. It&#8217;s good to be a fan and support your team, but there also comes a time to be objective. </p>
<p>Both of our organizations have problems, but I would daresay four coaches in three years is quite noteworthy, despite the recent conclusion to the ownership drama, the inept GM, and all the problems that has come from that..</p>
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		<title>By: Snes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Senators have played quite well under Clouston, better than the Thrashers + they even threated for the playoffs at some point (never I believed they had a realistic chance.) BTW, the Thrashers weren&#039;t the only successful teams in 2009 (hello Toronto + OTT.)

bad GM + medicore coach (with upside) + terrible owners (who have been in court since 2005 in one way or another)...I&#039;m not saying that the Senators situation is ideal but at least we have a decent owner. One single owner and not several like in Atlanta. Also, the Sens might have four coaches over a short span but at least the team had the balls to change curse. What about the Thrashers? Waddell isn&#039;t the right man going forward and so is Dudley (been there done that from a Sens POV.) 

You guys have hope, but I think the major trouble spots in Thrasherville are still arching...like defense and PK (the Stuart trade will hurt.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Senators have played quite well under Clouston, better than the Thrashers + they even threated for the playoffs at some point (never I believed they had a realistic chance.) BTW, the Thrashers weren&#8217;t the only successful teams in 2009 (hello Toronto + OTT.)</p>
<p>bad GM + medicore coach (with upside) + terrible owners (who have been in court since 2005 in one way or another)&#8230;I&#8217;m not saying that the Senators situation is ideal but at least we have a decent owner. One single owner and not several like in Atlanta. Also, the Sens might have four coaches over a short span but at least the team had the balls to change curse. What about the Thrashers? Waddell isn&#8217;t the right man going forward and so is Dudley (been there done that from a Sens POV.) </p>
<p>You guys have hope, but I think the major trouble spots in Thrasherville are still arching&#8230;like defense and PK (the Stuart trade will hurt.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan: You need to start breaking up your posts into chapters.  … Heatley wants to be on a contender and also a free skating offensive team .. The whole “diminishing role” thing is BS. He doesn’t like the coach or the team anymore and wants out. That simple. … I agree with you on Kovy: I think he is looking for reasons to stay. I just can’t say if enough of those reasons exist.

JT : That will never happen. He doesn’t want to play here.

Snes: The Senators have had four coaches in the last two seasons –  Murray, Paddock, Hartsburg, Clouston. Is that not dysfunctional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan: You need to start breaking up your posts into chapters.  … Heatley wants to be on a contender and also a free skating offensive team .. The whole “diminishing role” thing is BS. He doesn’t like the coach or the team anymore and wants out. That simple. … I agree with you on Kovy: I think he is looking for reasons to stay. I just can’t say if enough of those reasons exist.</p>
<p>JT : That will never happen. He doesn’t want to play here.</p>
<p>Snes: The Senators have had four coaches in the last two seasons –  Murray, Paddock, Hartsburg, Clouston. Is that not dysfunctional?</p>
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		<title>By: Snes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are the Senators dysfunctional? The Thrashers and their fans &amp; the Atlanta media have to look at their franchise first before putting others down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are the Senators dysfunctional? The Thrashers and their fans &amp; the Atlanta media have to look at their franchise first before putting others down.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with that, jt, is that Atlanta is one of those markets where, again, Heatley would face significant media scrutiny.  Because of what happened earlier, his non-local community service, and a perceived ABANDONMENT of the team.  This is a would-be hornet&#039;s nest for Heatley.  That said, if Heatley actually wanted to play here, Atlanta could benefit from his roster presence.  There&#039;s only one way Atlanta gets Tier I players:  They draft them.  At least until such time as the Thrashers are a Cup contender.  Then they might get some nibbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with that, jt, is that Atlanta is one of those markets where, again, Heatley would face significant media scrutiny.  Because of what happened earlier, his non-local community service, and a perceived ABANDONMENT of the team.  This is a would-be hornet&#8217;s nest for Heatley.  That said, if Heatley actually wanted to play here, Atlanta could benefit from his roster presence.  There&#8217;s only one way Atlanta gets Tier I players:  They draft them.  At least until such time as the Thrashers are a Cup contender.  Then they might get some nibbles.</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Heatley should return to &quot;the scene of the crime&quot; to face his demons and help Atlanta&#039;s hockey club. He is still a great hockey player and a reunion with Ilya may be just what he needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Heatley should return to &#8220;the scene of the crime&#8221; to face his demons and help Atlanta&#8217;s hockey club. He is still a great hockey player and a reunion with Ilya may be just what he needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I&#039;m late to the party, Jeff Schultz.  Loved your article.  Thanks for the link the Scott Burnside item, too.   Turning back the clock to the 2000 Entry Draft, these were my thoughts on Heatley.  &quot;Wow, this kid has &#039;can&#039;t miss&#039; written all over him.  He&#039;s won at every level.  And the NHL won&#039;t be any different.  We&#039;ve just met the &#039;face of the franchise.&#039;&quot;  Flashing forward to May 2009, these are my thoughts on Heatley, &quot;Wow, what went wrong?  He&#039;s a capable enough hockey player, but he&#039;s got to make better judgements and assume more responsibility for his conduct off the ice, including keeping his emotions in check.  There might still be a maturity issue at play.&quot;  

If Dany Heatley wants to go to San Jose, it&#039;s because the Sharks are a Cup contender.  Point of Fact:  San Jose won the President&#039;s Trophy last season, for best overall record.  Unfortunately, the St. Louis Blues, on the final game of the season, leapfrogged all the way from 8th to 6th in the playoff seedings, and that pushed Anaheim to #8 position.  Anaheim was no slouch of a team, a Cup winner in 2007, that had retaining many of its Championship pieces.  The Sharks were bitten, and eliminated in the 1st round.   Dany Heatley has said that the motivation for his trade request is due to a diminishing role in Ottawa.   If I were in Ottawa&#039;s shoes, &lt;strong&gt;I&#039;d play Heatley 42-minutes a game.  Then wait for Heatley to claim &quot;his diminished role&quot; is still the impetus for a trade out of town.&lt;/strong&gt;  Heatley seemed to perform &#039;just fine&#039; in my estimation, post car wreck, for Atlanta.  He certainly didn&#039;t seem upset about being traded to Stanley Cup contender Ottawa, back in 2005.   &#039;Gift wrapped Championship?,&#039; did I hear someone say?   Well, Ottawa was the #1 seed in the 2006 playoffs.  They lost in the 2nd round to Buffalo, 4-1.  In 2007, the Senators managed to defeat the Sabres in the CF, to reach the Stanley Cup Finals, where they lost to Anaheim, 4-1.  &lt;strong&gt; Heatley got his chance at a Cup! &lt;/strong&gt; By 2008, the Senators barely held on to a playoff seed, finishing 7th, amid claims by Ottawa&#039;s then Head Coach Bryan Murray that the Penguins &#039;threw&#039; the final game of the season to Philly, just to draw Ottawa as a 1st round opponent.  The Senators were outscored 16-5 by the Penguins, in a sweep.  And really, it felt like it was even WORSE than that, for Ottawa.  By 2009, the Ottawa Senators were not even among the playoff field.  See a pattern emerging here?   As poster Sara points out, this makes the THIRD TIME Heatley has requested a trade/release from a team, since he was drafted, if you count the lockout year.  

Shaking my head.  Maybe Dany Heatley really thinks that the world OWES him something?  Is this the result of craddle to grave coddling by every coach or GM along the way?   Sooner or later Dany Heatley will have to learn to face adversity and deal with it.  His answers, thus far, are to run away, using some form of rationalization or other to defend his actions.   Ilya Kovalchuk, in my view, has never run away from anything.  He just goes about his business of potting 40-50 goals every year, on a lackluster Thrashers squad.  Kovalchuk was made Captain this past season.  Kovalchuk seemed to takeoff ever since.  Call me naive, Jeff Schultz, but I think Kovy is actually looking for reasons to stay in Atlanta.  If only the Thrashers organization would give him reasons.   Kovalchuk has not failed the Thrashers.  The Thrashers have failed him.   Kovalchuk is not the GM.  Nor the owner.  Nor has he ever been the Coach of the Thrashers.  If Kovy remains unsigned by New Year&#039;s Day, the trade deadline interest in him will be SKYHIGH.  Waddell says, &quot;In no way, shape or form, will we EVER trade Kovalchuk.&quot;  For what it&#039;s worth, I actually believe Waddell.  This time.  I&#039;m sure he doesn&#039;t want to be remembered as the GM who traded Kovalchuk out of Atlanta.   But if Kovy leaves, there ought to be accountability for that, across the board.  How many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS UNDER THE CAP are the Thrashers, as we speak?  In a &#039;make or break&#039; year, as it relates to Kovalchuk&#039;s future in Atlanta.   I welcome your thoughts and comments, Jeff Schultz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I&#8217;m late to the party, Jeff Schultz.  Loved your article.  Thanks for the link the Scott Burnside item, too.   Turning back the clock to the 2000 Entry Draft, these were my thoughts on Heatley.  &#8220;Wow, this kid has &#8216;can&#8217;t miss&#8217; written all over him.  He&#8217;s won at every level.  And the NHL won&#8217;t be any different.  We&#8217;ve just met the &#8216;face of the franchise.&#8217;&#8221;  Flashing forward to May 2009, these are my thoughts on Heatley, &#8220;Wow, what went wrong?  He&#8217;s a capable enough hockey player, but he&#8217;s got to make better judgements and assume more responsibility for his conduct off the ice, including keeping his emotions in check.  There might still be a maturity issue at play.&#8221;  </p>
<p>If Dany Heatley wants to go to San Jose, it&#8217;s because the Sharks are a Cup contender.  Point of Fact:  San Jose won the President&#8217;s Trophy last season, for best overall record.  Unfortunately, the St. Louis Blues, on the final game of the season, leapfrogged all the way from 8th to 6th in the playoff seedings, and that pushed Anaheim to #8 position.  Anaheim was no slouch of a team, a Cup winner in 2007, that had retaining many of its Championship pieces.  The Sharks were bitten, and eliminated in the 1st round.   Dany Heatley has said that the motivation for his trade request is due to a diminishing role in Ottawa.   If I were in Ottawa&#8217;s shoes, <strong>I&#8217;d play Heatley 42-minutes a game.  Then wait for Heatley to claim &#8220;his diminished role&#8221; is still the impetus for a trade out of town.</strong>  Heatley seemed to perform &#8216;just fine&#8217; in my estimation, post car wreck, for Atlanta.  He certainly didn&#8217;t seem upset about being traded to Stanley Cup contender Ottawa, back in 2005.   &#8216;Gift wrapped Championship?,&#8217; did I hear someone say?   Well, Ottawa was the #1 seed in the 2006 playoffs.  They lost in the 2nd round to Buffalo, 4-1.  In 2007, the Senators managed to defeat the Sabres in the CF, to reach the Stanley Cup Finals, where they lost to Anaheim, 4-1.  <strong> Heatley got his chance at a Cup! </strong> By 2008, the Senators barely held on to a playoff seed, finishing 7th, amid claims by Ottawa&#8217;s then Head Coach Bryan Murray that the Penguins &#8216;threw&#8217; the final game of the season to Philly, just to draw Ottawa as a 1st round opponent.  The Senators were outscored 16-5 by the Penguins, in a sweep.  And really, it felt like it was even WORSE than that, for Ottawa.  By 2009, the Ottawa Senators were not even among the playoff field.  See a pattern emerging here?   As poster Sara points out, this makes the THIRD TIME Heatley has requested a trade/release from a team, since he was drafted, if you count the lockout year.  </p>
<p>Shaking my head.  Maybe Dany Heatley really thinks that the world OWES him something?  Is this the result of craddle to grave coddling by every coach or GM along the way?   Sooner or later Dany Heatley will have to learn to face adversity and deal with it.  His answers, thus far, are to run away, using some form of rationalization or other to defend his actions.   Ilya Kovalchuk, in my view, has never run away from anything.  He just goes about his business of potting 40-50 goals every year, on a lackluster Thrashers squad.  Kovalchuk was made Captain this past season.  Kovalchuk seemed to takeoff ever since.  Call me naive, Jeff Schultz, but I think Kovy is actually looking for reasons to stay in Atlanta.  If only the Thrashers organization would give him reasons.   Kovalchuk has not failed the Thrashers.  The Thrashers have failed him.   Kovalchuk is not the GM.  Nor the owner.  Nor has he ever been the Coach of the Thrashers.  If Kovy remains unsigned by New Year&#8217;s Day, the trade deadline interest in him will be SKYHIGH.  Waddell says, &#8220;In no way, shape or form, will we EVER trade Kovalchuk.&#8221;  For what it&#8217;s worth, I actually believe Waddell.  This time.  I&#8217;m sure he doesn&#8217;t want to be remembered as the GM who traded Kovalchuk out of Atlanta.   But if Kovy leaves, there ought to be accountability for that, across the board.  How many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS UNDER THE CAP are the Thrashers, as we speak?  In a &#8216;make or break&#8217; year, as it relates to Kovalchuk&#8217;s future in Atlanta.   I welcome your thoughts and comments, Jeff Schultz.</p>
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		<title>By: Krust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, 

Thanks

Well it looks like Heatleys not going anywhere, I also bet there a few Ottawa players who do not like him now.  Ottawa better put a Sport Shrink on the pay roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Well it looks like Heatleys not going anywhere, I also bet there a few Ottawa players who do not like him now.  Ottawa better put a Sport Shrink on the pay roll.</p>
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