What not to expect: Falcons vs. Vick in 2009

Falcons coach Mike Smith and defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder probably won't have to devise a way to stop No. 7.

(UPDATE: An online sportsbook, Bodog.com, has just established odds on Vick’s next team. Feeling lucky? See below.)

When I caught the tail end of the Falcons’ luncheon for select season ticket holders Wednesday — ostensibly to talk to coach Mike Smith for a column –I mentioned to a few people that at least 18 teams already had indicated they weren’t interested in signing Michael Vick. But all anybody seemed to want to know was: Are any in the NFC South?

Well, here’s some news that even most Falcons fans who don’t want any more local coverage of Vick should be interested in: The Falcons will not have to play Vick twice a season because it seems no NFC South team is interested. (And he may not appear on their 2009 schedule: see below.) That’s something I would’ve never guessed. But here’s the UPDATED breakdown:

NEW ORLEANS:The Saints are out (unofficially team No. 19). It turns out General manager Mickey Loomis actually said last month the team had “no plans to bring Michael Vick to the Saints.” But since everybody seemed to ignore him, he reiterated his lack of interest (sort of) Wednesday, saying: “We have already commented on Vick and have nothing further to add.” This surprises me. New Orleans seemed like a good fit. It’s another indoor/turf team that could help Vick utilize his speed. He’s familiar with the opponents. He could play for a loud and loyal fan base and in a town where the Saints are the show. He could play for a creative offensive coach in Sean Payton, who would find ways to incorporate Vick into the game plan, even with Drew Brees as the starter. He could play for an owner, Tom Benson, who is always desperately looking for ways to generate revenue in a market that just doesn’t provide a lot  (which is why he has wanted to move the team).

♦ TAMPA BAY: The Buccaneers also once looked like a plausible destination. But that was before coach Jon Gruden — who goes through quarterbacks like jelly beans and always has been fascinated by Vick’s talents — was fired in January. The Bucs have been quiet since Vick’s suspension was lifted but they indicated earlier they weren’t interested. Chances are, they don’t want to subject new coach Raheem Morris to the circus, even though the team is a mess at quarterback (depth chart: Luke McCown, Bryon Leftwich, Josh Freeman). It also should be noted that Tampa’s offensive coordinator is former Falcons assistant Jeff Jagodzinski, who dealt with the relatively pristine Matt Ryan at Boston College. Morris and Jagodzinski are expected to use a form of the West Coast offense at Tampa, which as we’ve seen is not conducive to Vick’s skill set.

CAROLINA: The Panthers have never officially commented on their interest in Vick. But it would be shocking if they signed him. This franchise already has had its share of tragedy and embarrassment — Rae Carruth conspiring to murder his pregnant girlfriend; Kerry Collins booze-fueled racist ramblings; two cheerleaders caught in public restroom having sex — and doesn’t want the attention that comes with the Vick package. Neither owner Jerry Richardson nor coach John Fox seem the type to want to roll the dice on Vick. A recent Charlotte Observer story noted, “Who knows what teams might be interested in picking up Vick – and some will – but be assured the Panthers aren’t one of them.”

And finally, I just looked at the Falcons’ 2009 schedule. The only two teams on it who haven’t yet made a public declaration about Vick are New England in Week 3 (when Vick might still be under Roger Goodell’s vague suspension) and Chicago in Week 5 (ditto).

So if you were wondering/concerned/anxious about the Falcons vs. Vick scenario in 2009, I think you’re safe.

♦ ♦ ♦

An online sportsbook, Bodog, has just issued odds on what team will sign Vick. I’m not sure if I’m required to say that these odds are for entertainment purposes only. But here you go::

  • New England Patriots                 4/1
  • Orlando Tuskers (UFL)               9/2
  • Baltimore Ravens                       5/1
  • Washington Redskins                5/1
  • Oakland Raiders                        6/1
  • San Francisco 49ers                  7/1
  • Jacksonville Jaguars                   15/2
  • New Orleans Saints                   15/2
  • New York Sentinels (UFL)           15/2
  • San Francisco Rockfish (UFL)     15/1
  • Buffalo Bills                               11/1
  • Las Vegas Locomotives (UFL)     11/1
  • Cincinnati Bengals                     12/1
  • Miami Dolphins                          12/1
  • Seattle Seahawks                      13/1
  • Any CFL Team                          30/1
  • Any other NFL team                   5/2

220 comments Add your comment

Snoopy

July 30th, 2009
11:36 am

As a dog, I would just like to say that I can live the rest of my life and never see Mike Vick in the NFL, and I won’t lose any sleep over it.

Bobby Dowell

July 30th, 2009
11:36 am

It would be fine with me if he signed with a team in the AFC Far East, somewhere like Tiawan. Just so tired of seeing his name..

elaine.

July 30th, 2009
11:39 am

give the man another chance, you would if he had killed another human. we have all been forgiven at some points in our lives.

Found this interesting

July 30th, 2009
11:40 am

Scoobie Doo,

If I never see MV ever again, I’ll be alright

:)

dean

July 30th, 2009
11:42 am

“…2 cheerleaders having sex in a bathroom…” How did I miss THAT?

BugKiller

July 30th, 2009
11:45 am

Awww… it’s too bad.

I couldn’t wait for the Falcons to play Vick Supporter 2’s Favorite Felon and Mediocre QB and watch as Curtis Lofton slammed him to the turf again and again and again.

Guess we just have to wait to shut up all the idiotic Vick Supporters out there. Or maybe not. Who knows.

MV7 Fan

July 30th, 2009
11:46 am

I think regular season suspension on MV is hurting him…as far as signing with a team is concerned.

Seems like he is getting punished three times. (1), when he was indicted, the Falcons suspended him. (2), when he went to jail. I guess 23 months in prison was not enough punishment in the eyes of the commissioner. (3), MV is getting suspended for part of pre season and the regular season.

I wonder if other players who commit crimes going forward will be subject to this, etc…

I really love dogs. However, in my opinion, Vicks crime is being treated as being worse than dui man slaughter , domestic abuse, and even shooting yourself in the leg, etc.

DIPPER

July 30th, 2009
11:47 am

Everybody is tripping. Let the man play and I would love to see him in the NFC South. No one wants to admit that the Dome would be rocking, scalpers would be selling nose bleed seats for $200… The man is a ticket draw. Just imagine seeing a Carolina Blue #7 and Red #7 in the Dome at the same time, the hype would be crazy. It would be just like when Dieon Sanders came back to the Dome.. This man has given every Falcons fan memories that they will never see again, more good than bad.

The Georgia Dome has not Sold out a single game without the help of Aurther Blanks, Major Banks, Radio Stations, TV Stations or sponsors since VICK left the team. Everybody said once the Falcons start winning, the fans would come back. Well, we had a great season last year and the fans still havent showed up. But on the other hand folks say “TO HELL” with VICK, that’s impossible.

D.Orlando's boyfriend

July 30th, 2009
11:48 am

I miss the days of Vick to Roddy White… it was such a more productive
duo.

Peadawg

July 30th, 2009
11:49 am

These Vick stories are getting old. He was never a good ‘quarterback’, he was a good running back. He lied to Blank, coaches, and the fans. He killed dogs. Let him move on to another city. Please AJC, stop wasting space on these useless articles!

mee

July 30th, 2009
11:51 am

A dogs life over human being is this really about dogs or HEY YOU BLACKMAN WE STILL OWN YOU. Whatever the case it is rather silly and outrageous. Not condoning what he did but is it really about the dogs.

Herschel Talker

July 30th, 2009
11:51 am

Mike Vick likes men

MV7 Fan

July 30th, 2009
11:52 am

@peadawg … Hey, an NFL player killed someone in a DUI case and served less than 30 days. No protest from anyone. And he will probably get back in the NFL in one year.

bbug

July 30th, 2009
11:53 am

all the people commenting have so much to say about the dog charges. but what about the celbs. that take human life. i always thought a human life was more than a animal life. everybody deserves a second chance to change there life and i think he deserves his.

Whatever

July 30th, 2009
11:53 am

that’s cool. There is always 2010. :)

GO VICK!!!!!!!!!!

midnite

July 30th, 2009
11:57 am

The UFL is his best bet from a financial standpoint. NFL teams will not offer the kind of money Mike Vick needs to satisfy the backruptcy court.

DownGoesFrazier

July 30th, 2009
12:03 pm

So what if he did come back 2 times a year? All we’d have to do is stack the line and force him to throw incompletes and int’s. Hasn’t that been proven already? Wherever he goes the protests will be short lived, especially if he wins. Live and let live. I wish I had his future earnings potential.

Reid Adair

July 30th, 2009
12:04 pm

If an NFC South team wants him, let ‘em sign him. The only thing that matters to me is that he will NEVER be an Atlanta Falcon again.

Boo Boo

July 30th, 2009
12:05 pm

Whoever Vick plays for, that team’s opponent fans will have an instant chant (”Dog Killer”), with which to rattle Vick on the road. Vick might need to have his middle fingers surgically removed to avoid more league fines, on days when defenses are spying on him, touching him behind the line, causing him to immediately fumble or overthrow receivers. He’s got too much debt on his plate to be fined more. I do hope he signs with some team, simply because he needs to repay his dollar-bill debt to society’s big biz. Of course, that debt presumes he can accept no less than another 10-year, $200-million contract, with only the Atlanta Falcon, banks, and Bankrupcy Attorney fees money guaranteed.

PMC

July 30th, 2009
12:05 pm

The issue with Vick in a wildcat role might be the fumbles. He fumbles like it’s going out of style.

I can’t believe no one wants to even give him a shot though… that’s ridiculous.

I also can’t believe teams would worry about 5 idiots with posters outside the stadium. PETA… who cares…. they are mentally imbalanced.

Mike Jay

July 30th, 2009
12:05 pm

I’m pretty sure that being the head of a criminal organization that was facilitating and taking illegal bets has as much to do with Vick’s long prison term and added NFL suspension as the fact that he brutally killed dogs. The NFL is rightfully leary of any active players gambling much less ones who are basically a bookie and taking illegal bets from morally corrupt people. Add the fact that Vick plays the position that has the utmost effect on the outcome of the game and I can see the commish being leary. But go on and keep saying “it’s just dogs” and ignore the rest because it makes your man crush feel less dirty.

mee is right

July 30th, 2009
12:06 pm

I am with you, mee… is it REALLY about the dogs ?

Chris

July 30th, 2009
12:07 pm

Love all the excuse makers.

Wouldn’t shed a tear for him if he never got back into the league. Won’t shed a tear for all the ignorant people in this town, either.

mee is right

July 30th, 2009
12:07 pm

FREE MIKE VICK !!

Dr. R.

July 30th, 2009
12:09 pm

Will someone tell me why he still matters to Atlanta fans? I liked Vick when he was the Falcons QB (yes, I got a No. 7 jersey. Black one, really cool, much better than the red). But he’s gone now and we have a new QB and I no longer really care where Vick plays. I don’t hold a grudge against him; he’s a guy who made a mistake and paid for it. I’m fine with him playing again. But it’s not going to be in Atlanta so why does it warrant this constant attention from the Atlanta media? Schulzie, don’t you think you guys are beating it into the ground a bit? (though ESPN is far worse with their hourly Favre, Romo and TO updates). Perhaps all of the sports media should focus a little more on the guys who are actually on a team and PLAYING than these side dramas about guys who aren’t.

Belinda

July 30th, 2009
12:09 pm

I feel that Michael Vick is a valuable player, He has done his time. What wrong with people why we always juding who are we. Let him play So what the sport world of football gonna throw away a player we still will love to see in action hell he lost millions. They should feel ashamed it’s only a game.

Ummm

July 30th, 2009
12:10 pm

MV7 – you are an idiot. The two cases are not even close to being similiar. The only reason Stallworth only served less than 30 days is because the family of the victim agreed to it in order to get millions in compensation from Stallworth. You see, it is in their best interest to receive money to help live, rather than no money with him in jail.

FREE AT LAST

July 30th, 2009
12:10 pm

To all you haters, the group EN VOGUE said it best, “Free your mind, and the rest will follow….be color blind don’t be so shallow”

Jesus said ‘He who is without sin cast the first stone”

Football Fan

July 30th, 2009
12:12 pm

Let those who hunt, fish or have gone to a pig roast cast the first stone. If the NFL has no problem with MV playing why should teams? It’s called PETA. Others have been caught doing the same thing. once they do their time are they barred from their former profession by public opinion if the governing body clears them for employment? No.. It’s because of PETA and the potential income.

The NFL isn’t doing any favors for Mike Vick. It’s about money pure and simple. How much longer will MV be productive in the NFL? Maybe 5 or 10 years? What’s the big deal? Follow the money. Dogs get hit by cars all the time. If someone hits a dog should they never be allowed to drive down any street where the homeowners own a dog? It’s football. If you don’t like the team that will pick up on MV.Just don’t watch. No one is up in arms on the plight homeless children. If a city has a homeless population many don’t have a problem spending the money for a ticket, snacks and whatever else at a football game…So get real. It’s just football. He paid his debt to society.

ihopeherots

July 30th, 2009
12:12 pm

Vick is a sham. He was overrated from the start. And I love the argument that if he killed a human, he’d be back in the NFL by now…?? I’m sorry – I wouldn’t want him back in the NFL making millions if he tortured and killed dozens of people, so why should he be back as a “role model” for young boys because he tortured and murdered dozens of innocent animals? People who can so easily take away another life (animal OR human) cannot be completely rehabilitated after 23 months in prison. He’s a sick man who should not be allowed back in the public spotlight. Period.

Earl the Plumber

July 30th, 2009
12:12 pm

Does anyone really think Vick will return and play at a high level? Moreover, did Vick ever consistently play at a high level? He’s not a threat to the Falcons, no matter where he plays. Two years in a 5X7 cell will slow you down.

Jeff Schultz

July 30th, 2009
12:14 pm

For anybody who hasn’t seen them, an online sportsbook just inserted odds on Vick’s future

GoBigBlue

July 30th, 2009
12:16 pm

The Lions could use another wideout. Vick on one side, CJ on the other, Stafford tossing to either of them. it’s a match made in Heaven. And let’s face it, the Lions can’t get any lower.

EN VOGUE

July 30th, 2009
12:17 pm

Live in the past so there ain’t no future but more of the same
Make Confederate flags wave in the face of racist shame
This war’s not over. Time to play it again
Seccession from the Fed Man is the only right to freedom worth a dang

Mike Jay

July 30th, 2009
12:19 pm

Interesting that the Falcons are not on that list Jeff :)

Mike Jay

July 30th, 2009
12:21 pm

Good point big blue he got plenty of practice at reciever in the pen…..rim shot. Thanks! I’ll be here all week, please tip your waitresses.

Jeff Schultz

July 30th, 2009
12:22 pm

OPENING DISCLAIMER – We’ve banned 3 commenters in last 24 hours. Please try to keep comments on a civil level or we’ll once again have to take action. Thanks, Jeff

Dean – It was a pretty big story. I won’t link, but Google.

Dr. R. – My only response is that for every person’s who’s sick of this, 3 aren’t. That said, I actually am trying to keep it in check, believe it or not. But right now where MV plays is a national story of interest.

Go Big Blue – Pretty sure Lions already have said no.

midnite

July 30th, 2009
12:22 pm

Earl the Plumber-Mike Vick did play at a higher level. He was “high” all the time. He was even “high” while on pre-trail. That Mike Vick loves his reefer and that my friends will cause him to violate his parole.

Paula

July 30th, 2009
12:23 pm

Everbody deserves a second chance. Michael Vick should be allowed to play football again. Arthur Blank earned millions off of Vick and that is something he should never forget. Give the man a second chance, just like you would want your child or family member to have.

Sean

July 30th, 2009
12:24 pm

People on this blog are trippin! Let the man try to redeem himself. If he is successful cool, if not, at least he tried. People are always quick to drag others through the mud but if you were to expose the skeletons in their lives stuff would be just as f&^ked up or worse!!!! Folks act like they have never done anything wrong in their life!! Just leave the man alone. If you don’t like Vick, don’t follow whats going on with him!

DIPPER

July 30th, 2009
12:25 pm

Ok lets look at the dog issue. VICK was convicted of funding dog fighting. Pit Bulls aren’t even mentioned as a AKC breed, insurance companies won’t even insure you if you have a Pit Bull, the US government is trying to ban the breed of the the PIT BULL.

So why is PETA even concerned with what happens to PIT BULLS when the own dog nation doesn’t even acknowledge them.

JOE BLACK

July 30th, 2009
12:25 pm

the remaining remaining teams in the Vick sweepstakes they are largey in the AFC and are all playoff bound and consistent Super Bowl contenders. Teams in queston Pittsburgh and New England; NE already showed what they are willing to win regardless of the player see Moss and Dillion. Pittsburgh head coach has ties to Va and New Port News in particular and since the Steelers just won the Super Bowl and they need a back up to Big Ben. Also as a fan the one thing fans wnat their team to do is win, win big and do what it takes to win. Vick is a steal for any team that just need a back up former pro bowl QB who won more games than he lost and who just so happen to be a headedache for opposing Deffensive cordinators.

at the end of the day it is all about winning and Vick has to much that he cant afford to lose

Boo Boo

July 30th, 2009
12:26 pm

Funny how some use the “my felony crime is better than yours” argument. It speaks volumes that the NFL is where any criminal can find a living, as long as the steroids still make one competitive. As long as the ex-players drop dead of heart failure at 47, long after their playing days are over, who cares? Not the teams, the player’s association, the league, the players, or the agents. Free Plaxico 2035!

ABC

July 30th, 2009
12:26 pm

Hmm, a few weeks ago a lot of Vick lovers were foaming at the mouth and claiming teams will be lined up to get Vick, fighting over him. I slept late this morning, did I miss the fight? Has Vick narrowed it down to 10 teams that he will consider and he’ll inform the team he picks that he may consider them? Oh…that was a dream, he’s still begging. Vick, get a map, look for Cananda and buy some winter clothes.

Dr. R.

July 30th, 2009
12:27 pm

Fair enough, Jeff, and surely the level of response in this blog backs up your notion and not mine. I’m just an old-school guy. I like players who shut up and play, but today’s media, TV especially, like to turn athletes into the jock versions of Paris, Brittney and whatshername. I like men’s sports played hard by men, played to win. Don’t care about their cars, their girlfriends, their personal lives. If they get in trouble, whatever; they’re off the radar until they come back. Ain’t judging them for anything but what they do between the lines. They are paid entertainers and when they do their thing, they earn their big bucks. When they don’t, it’s out of sight, out of mind as far as I’m concerned. Like Glanville once said when someone asked him about a guy holding out: “I’m worried about the guys who are here, not the guy who isn’t.” But I’m a voice in the wildnerness. I miss the old days of primo competitors, not prima donnas.

Steve

July 30th, 2009
12:29 pm

DIPPER, how many Sunday’s a month do you spend visiting relatives at the county jail. You say killing a pitt is nothing people don’t consider them dogs. Think back in the 50’s when people were killing one race because they didn’t think of them as human and having a soul. DIPPER, your gray matter can be in your head, not just in your laundry basket in the form of yesterdays underwear.

DIPPER

July 30th, 2009
12:30 pm

Everyone says he wasn’t a QB, he is over rated, he was a running back, he was a thug, he smoked weed, etc… yes some of these things are correct but behind closed doors I am willing to bet that over 90% of you at one time or another has said something good about this man. Right now he has one of the top 10 highlights in sports history. He has sold out the Dome more than any other QB in Falcons history, he has had the #1 selling Jersey in history… This man has made more money for Blank that Ryan will ever make for him.

But now that he has gone to jail and did bad things to dogs, you throw him under the bus…

Mike Jay

July 30th, 2009
12:35 pm

Dipper watch this video of those evil dogs Vick was breeding and killing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyCTcMcULZI

DIPPER

July 30th, 2009
12:36 pm

Well to answer your question about Jail… I don’t vist them on Sunday I vist them during the week about 2x a month. I will leave the rest of your comments alone because I can not go down that road with you back to the 50’s. It’s no need to bring up past history, we already see it going on in 2009. Just keep your memories to yourself because it will never get back to 1950 in my book.

midnite

July 30th, 2009
12:36 pm

What lesson is learned when a second chance is “given”? Shouldn’t a second chance be earned, where the offender has a vested interest in a successful rehabilitation? “…to whom much is given, much is required…”