Until Goodell moves on, none of us can move on

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell needs to get over the fact that Michael Vick lied to him the same day this picture was taken for the sake of the league and the rest of us.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell needs to get over the fact that Michael Vick lied to him about his crimes for the sake of the league and the rest of us. (AP photo)

It was about two years ago in New York when Roger Goodell asked Michael Vick if he participated in — or had any knowledge of — a dog fighting operation that investigators believed was being run out of his house in Surry County, Va. Vick lied. He said no.

This picture to the left was taken the same day as that meeting, as both were in New York for the 2007 draft and to honor Virginia Tech after the campus shootings. You know the rest of inglorious history — for Vick, for football fans, for the Falcons’ franchise, for Arthur Blank (who had similar pre-indictment conversations with Vick) and for the NFL. So we won’t rehash it. (Again.)

Now, I understand that the NFL has become the People’s Republic of Goodell. He has been tough on crime. Between the looks of disgust, he actually seems to enjoy being judge and jury. Maybe a little too much.

But for the sake of everybody, can we just move on?

Goodell may meet with Vick this week in time for Vick to sign with a team and go to training camp. Or he may not.

He may lift the suspension sometime in the next two weeks. Or he may not.

He may twiddle his thumbs for a while, all in the hope that Vick grovels a little bit more, publicly and privately, just to make sure every last group is pandered to and his own ego is satisfied. Some sort of conditional reinstatement (most likely) or additional suspension should be announced by Sept. 1. That’s 12 days before the first Sunday of the NFL season. Wouldn’t that be a wonderful buildup to Week 1?

Know what? I’m tired of this. I think most of us are tired of this. We all need to move on. We all want to move on but can’t until Goodell reinstates Vick and starts the healing process in earnest.

Roger: Make a decision already. I don’t want to hear that Vick just got his ankle bracelet off Monday. You’ve had 23 months to think about this and plot your strategy.

The longer Goodell takes, the longer this thing drags on. The longer we have to put up with double-secret, triple-anonymous sourced stories on ESPN that basically say nothing. The longer it is before Vick actually returns to the league, signs with a team, starts playing, experiences the hecklers and the picketers and the daily media examinations, all with the hope that he grows up and becomes a man and a player again.

But all that is going to take while. None of it is going to be fun. I’m not sure if we or Vick ever get to that finish line. But I know we’ll never find out if Goodell doesn’t start the process. And I’m so tired of waiting.

150 comments Add your comment

DHD

July 21st, 2009
11:27 pm

One more Vick article. Please guys, get over your man crush on this guy and report some real sports news.

Again??

July 21st, 2009
11:31 pm

3 Vick articles today?????

mullet13

July 21st, 2009
11:39 pm

Allowed to play in the NFL again or not, Vick will again do something criminal and stupid. And I hope that if he does come back that people will always protest, heckle, and harass him.

BugKiller

July 21st, 2009
11:52 pm

Really, Jeff?

Instead of being a voice for truth amidst all the lies being written about Mike Vick (he made “mistake(s)”; he “deserves” a second chance [or a sixth chance, really], he has a “right” to play football in the NFL) in the rush to see him get back in the NFL…

… you excoriate Roger Goodell instead?

Wow. You have a set of brass ones.

Next time someone under your purview lies to you about something incredibly illegal they just did when you’re trying to HELP them, I’m just gonna tell you to “get over it.”

Whether that be a child, a family member, a underling, whatever. Let’s see how you would feel when your trust is abused. When someone you’re trying to help lies to your face without a second thought, without an ounce of remorse.

Dude. Seriously. We’re all sick of Vick. But The Commish has every right to do what he deems necessary for the good of the game. It’s amazing how you and others rightfully deplore one commissioner when he routinely doesn’t do that (Bug Selig) and then turn around and deplore another when he does (Goodell).

Personally, I hope Goodell realizes that Mike Vick has led a LIFE STYLE of no remorse and bans him for life. Vick has no right to play football. He has every right to make a living. Let him play in the UFL. Or work construction. Where he commits sex crimes and settles them out of court. Where he smokes dope while having his urine tested. Where he has Blank fix his problems for him (the watch and the waterbottle).

You want proof that Mike Vick feels no remorse and hasn’t changed a bit? Pay attention to his ongoing bankruptcy proceedings.

He’s a man who’s been told how awesome he is since he was 14. He’s a man who’s always preferred to surround himself with sycophants and hangers on, and that hasn’t changed. Dan Reeves, the one coach who demanded that Vick actually work hard (and whom Vick had fired) has been trying to reach Vick for two years to HELP him. But Vick wants none of Dan Reeves and the truth he would bring into his life.

Ban Vick for life, Roger. The NFL, and the Falcons, are doing A-OK without him.

Ed-Covington

July 21st, 2009
11:58 pm

OK: Commit a heinous crime, be investigated by both Federal and state authorities. Tell your editors/publishers that you are innocent and have them publicly defend you. Then plead guilty to this crime and go to prison. Would you dare go back to you old bosses and tell them to “get over” it and give you your job back?

Ed-Covington

July 22nd, 2009
12:04 am

I hope Goodell allows Vick to twist in the wind for as long as Vick’s dogs were allowed to twist in the wind on the fences! Remember the pictures?

Ed-Covington

July 22nd, 2009
12:24 am

I hope that Goodell lets Vick twist in the wind for a long time. He deserves it! (Why did you censor my last, almost identical, entry?)

Anthony

July 22nd, 2009
12:26 am

Bugkiller,
It’s time for you to get over it. Who said you knew all the answers about Vicks situation? All we’re saying is the commisioner has had 23 months to decide what to do. I think he enjoys being “all powerful”. And another thing, Vick has already done his time. Let him move on. Why don’t you slam all the other players who get DUI’s, beat their wives or girlfriends, run around on their wives and Goodell never gives them anything but a slap on the wrist. He knows half the league would be suspended if he came down hard on them. Vick’s got to live with what he did for the rest of his life and he has served his time in jail for it. If it were you wouldn’t you want a chance to move on? Yes, of course you would. It’s easy to sit here and say what Vick deserves or don’t deserve when it’s not you isn’t it?

Ed-Covington

July 22nd, 2009
12:30 am

Wow! Both my entries post together after only a half hour’s wait!

Anthony

July 22nd, 2009
12:32 am

Ed=Covington,
No need to go over the rap sheet again. We all know what Vick did and so does the authorities. They gave his punishment and he took it. Now why don’t you move on and talk about the Braves since they are the only squeky clean thing going right now. But wait, you can’t. You can’t find anything negative to say which is all you all are wanting to say. Ever heard of forgiveness?

BugKiller

July 22nd, 2009
12:38 am

Anthony, what you seem to not understand is that there is no “right” for Vick to play football.

Who says he’s paid his debt?

If you were a teacher, and found to be funding, running, taking part in, basically, the Kingpin of an illegal dogfighting / gambling empire as Vick was and YOU go to jail for 2 years…

… do you have a “right” to get your teaching job back?

HELL NO!!!

Also, if you’re a teacher and you commit a sex crime against someone else by knowingly giving them herpes, let me see you retain your job, or get off like Vick did.

If you’re at the airport and you’re involved with the theft of a VERY expensive watch, let’s see if YOUR boss sends a “fixer” like Billy Johnson to get you out of it.

If you’re a teacher and you’re photographed with a joint in the back of a limo, let’s see how long you keep your job.

Get a clue, Anthony.

Billy

July 22nd, 2009
12:41 am

Give me a break, Anthony. This has nothing to do with “forgiveness”. It has everything to do with people saying to “get over it.” Michael Vick does NOT have the right to play in the NFL. Regardless of what Jeff or others think, most sensible people would see his actions as commissioner to be a positive.

And as much as Jeff likes to say that he’s “tired” of stories like Vick and Brett Favre, it’s he and his fellow writers who keep bringing this stuff up.

I can’t believe that I’m saying it, but I agree with BugKiller. If Jeff did the same types of things that Vick did, he probably wouldn’t be able to go back to his employer and ask for his job back.

The Grinch

July 22nd, 2009
12:46 am

Yes, Goodell is a self righteous d-bag. Yes, he is turning the grand sport of football into a pansy league. HOWEVER, #@$%@#$#%#@@! Mike Vick and send him on his #$@%-ing way. Time to let go, indeed. He had his chance, and he blew it. Repeatedly. LET IT GO. Let him go join his homies and sell some crack if he wants to achieve similar status among his peers. He crapped out with the paying public, we the AJC readers are #$@%-ing sick of hearing about him in any way, shape or form, so LET IT GO.

PLEASE.

Dogman

July 22nd, 2009
12:57 am

You don’t get to pick the friends you grew up with and some in Virginia still have pretty heinous hobbies. But try and find on the internet anyone in any country (ever) sentenced to two years for dog-fighting. Dan Reeves says Vick has a good heart and should be give a second chance. I agree with Reeves.

Anthony

July 22nd, 2009
1:03 am

Guys,
I didn’t mean to get you all upset. But we’re talking about football and not teachers. All I’m saying is, he has done what the courts and the authorities have said he is supposed to do under the law. He does have a right to make a living though. Do you not realize the money the nfl has made off of Vick. I know what he did is wrong but let’s face
it. He is being made an example of. I’m ready to move on also but put yourself in the same situation and would you not want another chance to right your past mistakes? Yes, you would. If I were the commisioner, I would let him know that this is his last chance and it would be it. I mean I love animals but c.mon, he didn’t kill anyone.

old fart

July 22nd, 2009
1:24 am

the Braves have won three in a row

BugKiller

July 22nd, 2009
1:32 am

He has a right to make a living.

Banning him for life from the NFL does not impede his right to make a living.

Again, you want proof that Vick isn’t remorseful in the least, only sorry he got caught? Follow his bankruptcy proceedings.

The arrogance of Vick’s requests in these proceedings do not show a man willing to do anything necessary to turn over a new leaf, to live a new life. His requests show a man desperate to hang on to every comfort of his old life and instead of offering full restitution for his misdeeds and horrible decisions.

Again… let him play in the UFL. Let him work construction. He has no right to play in the NFL.

Michael

July 22nd, 2009
3:24 am

I’m still sickened by what Vick did every day. But I gotta say he’s getting the WORST treatment of anybody in the NFL for the crime he committed. Ray Lewis lied during a murder investigation and probably knew who killed a man in Atlanta. Goodell wasn’t in charge back then, but Lewis still got off pretty easily compared to this. Donte Stallworth was driving drunk and killed a man. He hasn’t gotten a two-year suspension or a big (insert magazine) story on his fall from grace.

I agree with Jeff. Vick has been suspended for two years and done jail time. He has paid his debt to society, so if a team wants to employ him, so be it. But maybe the NFL (and everybody else) could step up and be this serious with every criminal that passes through its ranks. Stop suspending guys for 4 games for drug infractions and then turning the other way for assault.

RTW

July 22nd, 2009
3:45 am

Was, but no longer a fan, but considering what he has lost, deserves a shot at redemption. He thrilled many a Falcon fan, black and white. And eventually polarized the same. Needs to be reinstated, mostly for the chance for redemption, that in the end, the chance we all deserve to prove our true worth. Wish him luck. Understand why it won’t be with the Falcons.

A George

July 22nd, 2009
4:46 am

Wow, I am so glad we have a bunch of saints watching Falcons football. I am so convinced you guys are haters. Real Mike fans need to protest in front of the Georgia dome this Saturday to show our support of Mike Vick. This man lost over $50 million and spent almost two years and jail, and you still want more. People, they were DOGS….period. Big Ben accused of rape and I hear nothing. All the DUI’s going on and again, no protest. Again, lets rally behind Mike this Saturday at 11 am!!!!!

Falcons Ticket Operator

July 22nd, 2009
6:21 am

Again, Virtual fans. All these numbnuts hopped on to bash Vick and have they bought season tickets yet?!? NOPE Looks like all they only hate Vick, but that doesnt translate to supporting the Falcons!!

Operators are standing by, and apparently it will stay that way.

GT4Ever

July 22nd, 2009
6:22 am

WHO REALLY CARES!!!! MOVE ON!!!! it’s the best thing to ever happen to the Falcons and their fans. We finally have a REAL QB. First time since Bartowski.

Falcon4Ever

July 22nd, 2009
6:37 am

Goodell should move on. Only in professional sports could someone get their job back after being in prison. 95% of ex-cons have to work some deadend job to survive. Goodell is considering bringing him back, WHY???? Some role model he’ll be. NO, but we as society look up to these people for some reason.

How could anyone believe a pro athlete could be a role model. They’re not and never will be. There are just too many of them without morals and ethics. You parents should be the role models to your children.

Enough talk about Vick. Leave him in the past and get on with our lives. The Falcons have. Let’s do the same!!!!!

Hate In Their Eyes

July 22nd, 2009
6:46 am

Enough already, spew your hate here but the man is going to get reinstated and he’s going to make more than all of us combine. So go somewhere be mad, be hurt, but be over it cause all that you don’t want to happen will.

dd

July 22nd, 2009
6:54 am

Just like everything else, this will come down to money for someone or some team.

We’ll see if the price to pay is worth the return.

Stay tuned.

"Chef" Tim Dix

July 22nd, 2009
6:58 am

With all the dog focus Shultzy, don’t you think Goodell could easily stick his finger in the wind and come back with the illegal gambling operation is the threat to the game that can’t be tolerated stance?

Alex H.

July 22nd, 2009
7:25 am

Hear Hear Jeff! I hope the decision comes real soon.

shortcircuit

July 22nd, 2009
7:26 am

if you all would quit reading all this about Vick then sports writers would stop writing, everyone talks about they are tired of hearing but look at the number responding to the blogs.

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

July 22nd, 2009
7:37 am

Jeff you are right, lets get this over with so we don’t have to read about Vick any more. The sooner he can go to another team the better it is for the City of Atlanta. He has paid the price unlike some other professional athletes. And the next screw up is a life time ban like Pac Man’s…..oh, never mind.

FalcTech

July 22nd, 2009
7:42 am

Vick has paid his debt for the CRIMES he has commited. Vick hasn’t paid squat to the NFL. Forgiveness, second chances….Bull$#%^#&!!!! How many times do we have to hear about his “bad decisions” before we realize the man isn’t going to change!!!! It isn’t a RIGHT it is PREVILEDGE to make the millions he did and Vick blew it.
The Falcons have moved on with a QB that is willing to work hard to be a winner and has left the one who expected to win without the dedication.

Maxwell Snark

July 22nd, 2009
8:01 am

The sooner he’s reinstated, the sooner he can pull a Pacman and we can be done with him for good. Don’t hear too much about him anymore do you? Vick, Pros vs. Joes awaits.

Actually, for his kids’ sake, I hope he pulls it together and becomes a decent human being, because he hasn’t acted like one to this point.

True redemption, or Pros vs. Joes … the decision is yours, Vick. Once Goodell makes his, that is.

Tokyo Bravo

July 22nd, 2009
8:05 am

Vick committed a crime and has paid his dues. He is a free man. That said, playing in the NFL is a privelege, not a right. I say let Goodell take his own sweet time. Does MV deserve a chance to play again? I suppose so, but the whole “just reinstate him already” is bull, Jeff. He lied, and made a fool out of a lot of people, in addition to committing a heinous crime. I say ban him this year and let him try to pick up the pieces of his career in 2010. This will never come to pass, because some fool in the UFL (or whatever it’s called) will emnploy him for the cheap pub, but at the least, can we ban him for a half-season and make him do some SERIOUS public service work before we agree to pay him Pro wages again? Even the NFL minimum is far more than the average Joe will ever make, and he ought to be made to appreciate it a little.

Big Al

July 22nd, 2009
8:06 am

I am ready for this Vick situation to be over also. But do not jump on Goodell for having a problem with criminal actions by the players. If his ego means he wants the NFL players to act like decent, law abiding human beings, I hope his ego gets even bigger.

bubba

July 22nd, 2009
8:13 am

enough of this Vick reporting write something we care about he is past history with your Atl readers.
write something about what affects us

falconidiot

July 22nd, 2009
8:16 am

I say drag it out at least another year, or reinstate him and threaten any team that takes him repercussions. I hear the Dolphins could show some interest, so hurry maybe he could come back to the Dome week one and the whole city of Atlanta can riot over him. Ya, hurry it up for the ajc we could use a new stadium out of down town ATL.

Mike Jay

July 22nd, 2009
8:17 am

Errrr Wrong. I moved on about the time he got put in handcuffs. It really wasn’t that hard and i do not see what all the fuss is about.

crabapplejoe

July 22nd, 2009
8:27 am

Why should Vick wait for Goodell….he could go play for the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL immediately. Eric Crouch is no longer with them due to injury so they need a good running QB.

dgroy

July 22nd, 2009
8:28 am

Not only is MV a dog killer, he is also a liar. Any owner of an NFL franchise who would have someone like that as an employee is not worthy of owning an NFL Team. Do the right thing and ban him for life…..I certainly wouldn’t watch any game, or team, that he is a participant in, or is employed by.

MV7 with time on my hand

July 22nd, 2009
8:31 am

I TRULY THINK THAT YOU’LL ( FALCON FAN AND SPORT COLUMNIST) SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME ON THE FALCON AND MATT ICE, I FOUND IT SAD THAT MATT ICY WON ESPY AWARD AND THAT’S NOT THE MAIN TOPIC IN THE NEWS HERE OR THAT THE BEING OF CAMP NEXT WEEK. VICK HAS NOT BEEN HERE IN TWO YEARS AND HAVE PLANS TO MOVE ON WITHOUT THE FALCON AS WELL. PLEASE CAN WE MOVE ON WITHOUT MR. GOODELL SAYING WE CAN MOVE ON. AND PLEASE PLEASE GO SUPPORT YOUR FALCON BY BUYING SOME TICKETS FOR ALL THE GAMES*(LET’S SELL OUT EVERY GAME LIKE WHEN I PLAYED FOR YOU’LL)*

MV7 with time on my hand

July 22nd, 2009
8:38 am

I AM A MICHEAL VICK FAN FOR LIFE, THANKS MIKE FOR ALL THE JOY, HAPPINESS AND LOVE THAT YOU BROUGHT ME AND THE ONES THAT THOUGHT THAT YOU WAS THE MAN IN THIS CITY THAT LOVE YOU. MAY GOD’S BLESSING CONTINUE TO ABIDE WITH YOU FOREVER.
I TRULY THINK THAT YOU’LL ( FALCON FAN AND SPORT COLUMNIST) SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME ON THE FALCON AND MATT ICE, I FOUND IT SAD THAT MATT ICY WON ESPY AWARD AND THAT’S NOT THE MAIN TOPIC IN THE NEWS HERE OR THAT THE BEING OF CAMP NEXT WEEK. VICK HAS NOT BEEN HERE IN TWO YEARS AND HAVE PLANS TO MOVE ON WITHOUT THE FALCON AS WELL. PLEASE CAN WE MOVE ON WITHOUT MR. GOODELL’S SAYING WE CAN MOVE ON. AND PLEASE PLEASE GO SUPPORT YOUR FALCON BY BUYING SOME TICKETS FOR ALL THE GAMES(LET’S SELL OUT EVERY GAME LIKE WHEN I PLAYED FOR YOU’LL)

CORRECT!!

July 22nd, 2009
8:49 am

Say on Bugkiller you are 100% correct!

What makes Ryan better than Vick? Ryan actually worked to improve on his game during the off season. Vick killed dogs with his homeboys.

rebar

July 22nd, 2009
8:54 am

Well said, Bugkiller. You are correct on all points.

CORRECT!!

July 22nd, 2009
8:57 am

Vick took his 130 million contract and shoved it down his fans throats then gave ya’ll the bird. All you Vick fans are just plain DUMB!

Falcons fans stand up and shout we now have a team that will take us to back to back playoffs. We are no longer a one trick pony show…..we are a team!!!

Bring Vick back I don’t care he was figured out!! 2005-2006 seasons proved it. When all you’ve got are fast legs and unable to read a defense, of course you will rack up 1000 yards rushing. Heck how many runningbacks ran for over 1000 yards in 2006? ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Native Georgian

July 22nd, 2009
8:57 am

So much hate towards the man. Where is this emotion for the DUI (Stallworth), drug users (Phelps, Mayfield), and other CRIMES/CRIMINALS?

The LIES are in the PAST. The DOGFIGHTING is in the PAST. Goodell is charged with making a decision about the PRESENT & FUTURE. I agree with Jeff, it’s TIME TO MOVE ON.

And the AMERICAN WAY supports that if you have a talent and someone else is willing to pay you for that talent then you have a RIGHT to pursue it. Public hate is not enough to force this man to live in your hybrid-America. The same laws that allow you speeders, dui’ers, adulterers, sodomers, jaywalkers, etc… applies to dogfighters as well.

tree1984

July 22nd, 2009
8:59 am

Im still confused on how Vick got 21 months for killing dogs and Stallworth got 30 days for killing a human while under the influence of alcohol. Maybe Vick should have gotten drunk first. The legal system is messed up so they might as well let him play.

Adrian

July 22nd, 2009
9:05 am

Michael Vick should not have raped the dogs.

However, he went to federal prison for running an illegal, interstate gambling operation for the purpose of making money in violation of federal law and NOT for abusing animals. Unfortunately, many of the Obama voters on here who worship Vick like a “god” still do not understand that.

Vick looks like like a “Gremlin” (after adding water) from that 1980s movie, doesn’t he/it?

Adrian

July 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

CASE IN POINT: See the post by Vick Lover “tree1984″ @ 8:59 am

Herschel Talker

July 22nd, 2009
9:14 am

Mike Vick likes men.

tree1984 likes men.

Maxwell Snark

July 22nd, 2009
9:14 am

Bugkiller’s comments are the smartest on the blog.

CORRECT!!

July 22nd, 2009
9:14 am

Native Georgian……those people you mentioned never have and never will play for the Falcons. They should not even be brought up in this, let their fans blog about them. Stop trying to justify what Vick did by the wrongful acts of others.