
Florida's Urban Meyer is just like every other coach: At some point, he's going to need a new challenge.
If Urban Meyer wants to clear the air again about rumors that he’ll become Notre Dame’s next football coach after the upcoming season, he’ll have an opportunity this week at SEC media days in Alabama.
Will it make a difference? No. But at least everybody will have something on tape for reference, just like all those clips of Nick Saban saying: “I guess I have to say it. I’m not going to be the Alabama coach.”
I know. Meyer is different, right? That’s what Florida fans say. That’s what Meyer suggests. So when he all but slammed his fist on the table the other day and said, “I’m not going to Notre Dame. Ever. I’m going to be the coach at Florida for a long time, as long as they want me,” we had to believe him right?
Uh, no.
I don’t know Meyer but I know coaches. Never met one — in any sport on any level — who didn’t at some point need a new challenge. This isn’t to say Florida isn’t one of the best college football jobs going right now and possibly even a better job than Notre Dame (the name still has cache even if the current edition doesn’t). But at some point, after another championship and another multi-million-dollar raise, it’s only natural for a coach to think, “What next?” and look around.
Fact is, compared to other coaches, there’s twice the reason to think Meyer’s gone after one more season. He has two things tempting him: 1) We know what the Notre Dame job means to him because he has said it; 2) We can guess what the NFL means. With some teams now using a form of the spread offense, it would be easy for Meyer to convince himself of a smoother transition to the NFL than Saban and Steve Spurrier had.
Personally, I think Meyer’s gone. Gator fanboy needs to understand something: Coaches lie. They do it because they think they have to. They do it to keep recruits from getting cold feet and to keep their players focused. They do it because they think it’s none of your business whether they take that next job or not.
And, yes, Meyer has done it. The Orlando Sentinel dug up a couple of quotes from the Gators’ sainted coach.
♦ “I was contacted by one, but I’m not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That’s the bottom line.” — That was Meyer in 2002 when he was the Bowling Green coach. Six days later, he took the Utah job.
♦ “All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah.” — That was Meyer in 2004. Five days later, he took the Florida job.
Still feel the same about Meyer?
Get ready for a season of denials. But they mean nothing.
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Maybe Next Year
July 20th, 2009
7:17 am
As a Gator fan I love these columns. One, it shows that columnists have nothing else to write about and they’re too lazy to actually try and find a story and two, local columnists, rival fans and teams hold on to the hope that Meyer will leave so their team can get back to their winning ways. I’m not gonna worry about the future, I will enjoy the present. What’s next Jeff, you gonna rehash the UF/UGA game in Jacksonville or are you gonna write another Francouer story? No wonder the newspaper industry is in such shambles. No creativity.
Atlanta Gator
July 20th, 2009
7:18 am
Okay, Jeff, now we are merely recycling for the sake of AJC website hits. This topic was just covered in greater depth by Tony Barnhart. The AJC columnists really need to do a better job of coordinating column topics . . . aren’t there any sports editors left on staff?
Here’s the simple reality of why Urban Meyer isn’t going to be the head coach at Notre Dame any time soon:
In 2002, Utah was a better job than Bowling Green.
In 2004, Florida was a better job than Utah.
In 2009, Notre Dame is not a better job than Florida.
Now, there’s a truth upon which you may rely. A truth that “means something,” Jeff.
Maybe Next Year
July 20th, 2009
7:21 am
One more thing..same good cop (Tony Barnhardt), bad cop (Jeff Schultz) routine from the AJC. Except Tony Barnhardt is a respected journalist.
Hey, Gator fans...
July 20th, 2009
7:25 am
…don’t shoot the messenger – if I were you guys, I, too, would defend your coach and his denials. But, facts are facts, and he did lie on two occasions regarding other available jobs.
While he is a great coach, Jeff did write truths about the ego’s desire to see if it really can meet the next challenge. Notre Dame may not be a better job than UF, but the challenge is bigger than going from Utah to UF, at least at this time when the ND program is in distress.
Jeff Schultz
July 20th, 2009
7:35 am
For what it’s worth, I think there’s a better chance Meyer takes an NFL job over the Notre Dame job. But for everybody who poo-poos the ND job, think of this: How big of a job is that if Meyer turns it back into a winning program? Those are the kinds of things coaches think about.
hop
July 20th, 2009
7:38 am
meyer is like most all coaches today,they have little loyalty any school or team only to themselves and their family.
this guy will be gone after tebow leaves!
JSS
July 20th, 2009
7:40 am
Why are you folks worrying about who coaches a bunch of 17 to 22 year old boys? Not men, B-O-Y-S!!! I don’t care if he leaves for Cal Ply San Luis Obisbo… Division 1 BCS College football is a cartel for fools to follow… As long as you bring back Galen Hall, you’ll still be GA every 4 out of 6 years and TN the same… SEC stands for Sure Every fan is Crazy!
bull-gator
July 20th, 2009
7:41 am
Like I stated once before in another column on this subject: Meyer will be leaving UF in the next 3-5 years to coach in the NFL to perfect the spread at the pro level. The NFL is already tinkering with it and Meyer will be the one to take it to the next level.
missed it
July 20th, 2009
7:53 am
I don’t know Jeff Shultz but I know sportswriters. These guys will say anything to get hits going on their blog. They will regurgitate a story over and over and make it sound as if it’s some new version of it. They will jump on anything to make the locals go crazy. They will refuse to admit wrong when proven to be. They are desperate in a desparate drying up industry. They will write a weak story throw a weak opinion on it cite little facts and think it’s good because rival fans of who their writing about will eat it up and the fans of the team or coach they are bashing will get pissed about it. Weak.
Biff - Gator Hater
July 20th, 2009
7:57 am
Hey, Urban Meyer!
Why don’t you make like a tree, and get out of here?
gagata
July 20th, 2009
8:04 am
I think Urban was lying about Notre Dame being his dream job.
tim
July 20th, 2009
8:05 am
bottom line…..if a complete novice became the Gators next coach they would still kick the puppies sorry butts even witn CMR mr nice guy himself…..who will never win a MNC
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2009
8:11 am
Other famous quotes from the morning after : “Of course I love and respect you”…”Can I have your phone number and call you sometime?”…”You’re the one for me. Now, get in the kitchen an’ fry me up some breakfast.”
Satan Sabin
July 20th, 2009
8:12 am
I will never leave Alabama because we are know at the best cheating school in the nation. If it had not been for Fulmer squealing on us , the ***, we would still be doing it. Er, I think we still are. Don’t take my lies out of context.
” No. But at least everybody will have something on tape for reference, just like all those clips of Nick Saban saying: “I guess I have to say it. I’m not going to be the Alabama coach”
Jeff Schultz
July 20th, 2009
8:12 am
Hop: People dump on coaches a lot, but what you said really describes most people. Loyalty to ourselves and family comes first.
Missed it: I don’t know Jeff Shultz, either. Jeff Schultz, him I know.
Gagata: Now that’s funny.
Paddy
July 20th, 2009
8:14 am
JSS… if you hate sports as much as it shows, why bother turning to the sports page??
Urban Liar
July 20th, 2009
8:15 am
Just because you caught me in the bald faced lies below do you think I would ever lie again????
♦ “I was contacted by one, but I’m not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That’s the bottom line.” — That was Meyer in 2002 when he was the Bowling Green coach. Six days later, he took the Utah job.
♦ “All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah.” — That was Meyer in 2004. Five days later, he took the Florida job.
TommyP
July 20th, 2009
8:19 am
Jeff: I learned last week that most people are unable to project or see “what could be” with the discussion in Barnhart’s blog on the issue. If Meyer wins another one this year, there is no reason for him to stick around.
And Notre Dame is the PERFECT spot for him to land.
But people only see what they currently see. You’ll hear stuff like “Florida’s a great job” and “the Florida job is way better than the Notre Dame job.” Over and over and over.
Write it down…if Urban goes to Notre Dame, he has a GREAT chance to be the Joe Torre, Phil Jackson, Rick Pitino of college football. Not many coaches carry the “superstar” tag but he’ll be the most talked about coach in all of college sports and right up there with the pros.
R Cagle
July 20th, 2009
8:22 am
There was a Pope named Urban who only lasted thirteen days. He died of malaria or something, but it still gives you pause to think.
Ted Striker
July 20th, 2009
8:24 am
Urban Meyer is a trinity. First Urban Meyer is man…HUMANITY. (This is somewhat distasteful to Urban Meyer, as humanity is common.) Thankfully, Urban Meyer is also LEGEND. Finally, Urban Meyer is FOOTBALL.
Urban Meyer will grow football into more than it has ever been because Urban Meyer is supremely steeped in awesomeness and championshipishness.
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2009
8:24 am
Any truth to the rumor Pahokee High School is being renamed Pahokee-Saint Urban Catholic High School..?
UGASlobberknocker
July 20th, 2009
8:26 am
It looks like we have found the Gator’s hot button..They all go nuts when the subject of Urban removal comes up. They get so worked up you would think someone had just outlawed wife beater T shirts and flip flops at the GA/Fla game this year.
Keep up the good work, Jeff. Tomorrow could we have a column about Paul Johnson leaving Tech? (since that will happen pretty soon as well…as soon as regains his senses),
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July 20th, 2009
8:26 am
[...] Jeff Schultz of the AJC writes that despite Urban Meyer’s denials, don’t be surprised if the Urbanator leaves Florida. [...]
Ted Striker
July 20th, 2009
8:26 am
The difference between God and Urban Meyer: God doesn’t think he’s Urban Meyer.
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
8:30 am
Jeff, but a load of bull story. Also very misleading. First, the Notre Dame job would be like buying and then driving a Chevy (Notre Dame) vs. buying a driving a Farrari (Florida). Give me a break. No way Meyer leaves Florida for Notre Dame. Plus, Notre Dame has a good coach as is going to have a fine season next year. Plus, the AD likes and supports the current ND coach. So, how does Meyer get the ND job. I guess he will become the assistant head coach to Weiss. Concerning the NFL. Meyer had absolutely no interest in the NFL, period. Finally, Meyers entire family loves Gainesville. Ms. Meyer does not want to move again. She has established solid roots in Gainesville and has a lot of friends there, including the Donovans (who know a thing or two about leaving the U of F and what kind of mistake that is). Just another AJC article to get U of G readers excited for now reason. And all you HS recruits out there, Meyer is a Gator for life. Believe it. He will be almost sainted when he retires there in about 35 years.
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
8:34 am
Ted Striker. The difference between God and Meyer. God is what you want him or her to be and most people thing God is the creator and leader of the Republican Party. Meyer is simply the god of college football coaching right now. Get used to it.
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
8:37 am
Final blog…Miami will need a new coach next year. Guess who will be replacing Shannon. No doubt, Mark Richt is the perfect coach for the situation. Mark it down. Richt leaves Georgia next year (after another beat down from the Gators) for a better opportunity to win a national title at Miami. Now, that is something that might happen. Not someones fantasy story about Meyer leaving Florida.
TommyP
July 20th, 2009
8:37 am
Tampa: C’mon, man. All this “roots” stuff with Urban is, well, a myth. Have you read the litany of quotes by Meyer at all of his stops?
IF he wins another title, there’s no reason to stick around anymore. Florida will be part of the “been there, done that” conversation for him.
turkey
July 20th, 2009
8:37 am
This rumor was started by Paul Fienbaum and any one who listens to Fienbaum knows he wants Meyer to leave more than anyone. Fienbaum is a total bammer and he knows as long as Meyer is at Florida Bama will not be #1 in the SEC.
TommyP
July 20th, 2009
8:38 am
LOL @ Tampa. You’re so incensed at this article about Urban leaving that you’re going to throw the “Miami” thing out for Georgia fans?
LOL
Two truths you can take to the bank...
July 20th, 2009
8:42 am
…Urban will be the next ND coach; and, Paul Johnson will be the next UF coach!
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
8:43 am
TommyP…Richt to Miami makes more sense than Meyer to Notre Dame. In fact, Meyer to Miami makes more sense than Meyer to Notre Dame.
Ali Akbar Allah
July 20th, 2009
8:47 am
First, Steve Spurrier, Now, Urban Meyer. Next, Paul Johnson.
Golden Tornado is about to go on a 17 out of 20 run.
Jeff Schultz
July 20th, 2009
8:48 am
Turkey — Meyer-to-Notre Dame wasn’t started by Paul Finebaum. He just repeated it last week. Speculation has been out there for at least a year.
Jack G.
July 20th, 2009
8:50 am
Jeff
Have you noticed that when someone agrees with what you write you are smart and preceptive. When they disagree you are a dumb bum who dosent know diddly.
I guess it depends on wether or not your ox is being gored.
GatorFans=Delusional
July 20th, 2009
8:50 am
TampaGator and MaybeNextYear, I don’t blame you guys. As a bleeder of Bulldog Red, I am sick of having our heads handed to us by Meyer, Zook and Spurrier just as y’all were having it handed to you by Dooley all those years. I pray every night to the football gods that Meyer leaves and Bill Lewis takes over in Gainesville. Fact is, Urban has a huge buyout to leave…unless he leaves for ND. That says a good bit about his feelings for the ND job, and no Weis is not a good college coach, he has proven that again and again. With his schedule he may have a decent year, and that’s all it takes to get ND into a BCS bowl, the rules are slanted in their favor, but he will then be blown out when they play a legitimate BCS team in their bowl, starting the ’sack Weis’ talk all over.
Urban’ll leave, maybe not this year, but soon. I wouldn’t if I were him, but I’m am not he. ND was once the premier job in all of college sports, and could be again. Urban knows that.
"I'm not going to Notre Dame. Ever." - Page 2 - VolNation
July 20th, 2009
8:53 am
[...] "……So when he all but slammed his fist on the table the other day and said, “I’m not going to Notre Dame. Ever. I’m going to be the coach at Florida for a long time, as long as they want me,” we had to believe him right? Uh, no. ……….. Personally, I think Meyer’s gone. Gator fanboy needs to understand something: Coaches lie. They do it because they think they have to. They do it to keep recruits from getting cold feet and to keep their players focused. They do it because they think it’s none of your business whether they take that next job or not. ….. Get ready for a season of denials. But they mean nothing." Deny, deny, deny: But don’t be surprised if Meyer leaves | Jeff Schultz [...]
Eric
July 20th, 2009
8:53 am
If Jeff is such a lousy writer, why do you morons still read his column? I think he’s right on target most of the time. In this case I’m sure of it. College football coaches are notroious liars. They could all be “family values” republicans in congress!
Good job, Jeff!
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July 20th, 2009
8:56 am
[...] can deny it all he likes, but no one should be surprised if he leaves Florida. In fact, he says, “Personally, I think Meyer’s gone.”This writer offers up five storylines to watch during SEC Media Days later this week. (Lane [...]
DawginLex
July 20th, 2009
9:00 am
UM ain’t leaving anytime soon. Let’s hasten his potential departure by WINNING IN JACKSONVILLE.
A more likely scenario is Johnson leaving GT and going to a school that actually has a chance to win something. I don’t want him to leave either until he gets whipped a few times, then “m” will buy him a bus ticket.
KimmerFan
July 20th, 2009
9:06 am
Meyer isn’t going to ND. Like a Gaytor fan said, it’s not as good a job as the UF job. Lazy, cheating Steve Spurrier managed to gain an undeserved reputation for being a great coach by virtue of being able to rake in the State of Florida’s incredibly rich recruiting talent. An average coach can be a great coach at UF because of the talent that is readily available. Meyer would have to be a complete fool to leave that for ND. Meyer will leave UF for only one thing: the NFL. The NFL is the only place that can outbid UF.
jconservative
July 20th, 2009
9:09 am
If Meyer wants to win at ND he had better get the academic people to relax the admission & graduation equirements. Better get it in his contract.
Remember the Paul Hornung rant a few years ago? He apparently was correct.
FloridaHomer
July 20th, 2009
9:09 am
UHHHHHHHH look at all the the dawgs praying UM to leave the gators. Can’t beat them on the field eh? Now that is funny.
Comin' Down The Track
July 20th, 2009
9:10 am
TampaGator,
Yeah, pretty funny. I mean, I don’t know about Coach Meyer leaving or not. I wish he would, but I won’t believe it until I see it, and I’m not holding my breath. I think Coach Richt feels the same way, and he’ll keep preparing for Coach Meyer’s Gator squads until someone tells him otherwise, I bet. As for Miami and comparing Coaches Richt and Meyer, TampaGator, you’re out of your mind. The difference between them is that Richt has had ONE head coaching job, and has been clear about the fact that he wants only ONE coaching job. His role model has been at the same job since Moses was a paperboy. So, what you say is cute, but don’t project. It’s unbecoming.
Bill
July 20th, 2009
9:13 am
The operative line in this article is that the writer admits he doesn’t know Meyer.
Dawg Man
July 20th, 2009
9:13 am
Weis should get fired in the next year or two–he can’t coach at that type of program. Meyer will take the job if offered, for $5-6 mil per year—-mark it down! Florida will probably hire some assistant coach on their staff who will be another Zook! Then, the dawgs will start winning again almost every year like the old days!!!
Exley DAWG
July 20th, 2009
9:14 am
Next year Notre Dame will offer Meyer THE BIGGEST 10 YEAR COACHING CONTRACT EVER. And he’ll take it.
Otto
July 20th, 2009
9:23 am
For ND to get URban they would have to not olnly spend a large amount of money to get him out of UF but also upgrading facilites. The average fan does not realize how far ND has fallen in that area.
UF has loads of ins tate talent along with great facilities and SEC contracts that will bring the Univ. alrge sums of money well into the future. ND needs to be completely rebuilt facilities, schedule, recruiting base everything but TV and bowl contracts. If Urban stay at UF he could be the next Bowden or Saban but if he moves he could give up the best years of his career rebuilding a program that may or may not become a national power.
Jeff I think you are correct that Urban has better chances of jumping to the NFL but IMO he lvoes the power of a CFB coach and does not want to deal with a GM and superstar players. As for a challenge winning the SEC, Florida recruiting battles, LSU, WLOCP and FSU, UF is one of the most challenging coaching jobs out there.
Tampa I agree with your last comments.
PMC
July 20th, 2009
9:34 am
It would be sort of interesting to see if he could adapt his coaching style to the NFL. He’s easily detailed enough and dedicated enough to make it happen. I tend to believe the ND stuff is in the past. If he wanted it he could have had it, he turned it down.
gatorman770
July 20th, 2009
9:34 am
Richt will be back at Florida State long before Urban leaves the Gators!
Notra Dame is a “has been” from the 20th century!
If I remember correctly “Dawg Man” Zook beat the curdawgs every time but once and that was 3 days after the Gator team was shocked by his midseason firing and even then almost came back and beat the curs.
Hungover mutt fan
July 20th, 2009
9:38 am
Urban Meyer or Nick Saban will go to Notre Dame.. Why? Because they both kicked the mutts a$$es last year. Go mutts woof woof
spectator
July 20th, 2009
9:42 am
This talk of Meyer going to Notre Dame is just silly. The “prestige” of Notre Dame is a myth. The only job Meyer would leave FL for is of course, UGA. Everyone knows that UGA is the best job in college football…why would he consider anything else. Dog fans are getting tired of CMR and his inability to beat all of these inferior teams on the UGA schedule…Richt will be gone soon, every coach in America will be applying for the UGA job (best job in college football)but Meyer will get it.
htowngator22
July 20th, 2009
9:42 am
Who knows! Urban might leave UF for ND, but not before winning 2 or 3 more championships.
AlwaysAVol
July 20th, 2009
9:42 am
I heard that Urban Meyer and Bobby Patrino are both going to quit coaching and take a job teaching Marital Fidelity in some mega-church. Sign me up!
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
9:47 am
One of the main reasons Urban took the Florida job (other than the vast potential the school had for a great coach like Meyer) over Notre Dame was that he would not have to travel all over the country to recruit, which is a major requirement for the ND head coach. You are never around to be with your family. Meyer loves and wants to be near his family. If you had ever met Ms. Meyer, you would understand why. Plus, Urban is very involved in the life of his kids. The UF job allows him to be a great coach and still be a family man because 99% of his recruiting trips are less than 12 hours and few are over 24 hours. If he took the ND job or an NFL job, he would have to give up the family life he now has. It WILL NOT happen. Plus, the Meyers just love Gainesville, and Urban currently has the best coaching job in America, including the NFL. He will soon be making over 4 mill a year. You can forget Meyer leaving Florida. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Period.
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
9:48 am
GREAT ARTICLE JEFF. Urban Meyer will head to ND eventually. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. READ HIS BOOK. It is his dream job. He is named after a pope after all. Plus he already explained why he did not take the job the first time (didn’t want to be run out if he couldn’t win right away). Now he has the credentials to give him at least three seasons w/o any questions. Personally i would love to see him stay because as a competitor i want my teams to go against the best. PS Richt would go to Miami way before he ever went to FSU (do some research).
Otto
July 20th, 2009
9:53 am
Bruff ND would take 5 to 8 to turn around. You would have to build facilites to get the Football program into the 1990s.
Comin' Down The Track
July 20th, 2009
9:59 am
Y’all, TampaGator makes a pretty stout defense for Meyer staying. For those of us who are not Gator fans (I being chiefly among those since I actually grew up in America’s wang while WE were the dominant team and have many friends who are lizard lovers, and it was totally sweet I tell you), let’s strap it on and beat the lousy so-and-so’s a few times with some authority and consistency. Then we’ll all be wishful thinking about Meyer NOT going to Notre Dame (honestly, who cares about Notre Dame anymore?! They are a non-entity in college football).
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:01 am
With their schedule? I think Urban could have a ten win season (which is bcs for nd) in at most three years. Plus he has the recruiting connections in florida that every nd coach wishes he had. ND still gets 4 star athletes and with his coaching and that weak schedule it would take three years tops.
READY
July 20th, 2009
10:03 am
When he does CMR will do cartwheels down Millege Ave!
DR
July 20th, 2009
10:04 am
Meyer is the biggest liar in the SEC.
dan
July 20th, 2009
10:08 am
As a Dawg fan, I don’t want Urban Meyer to leave. It pisses me off when Dawg fans say things like ” oh when Urban Meyer leaves, we’ll be good again”. That’s such a second tier loser mentality. I want Urban to stay, and I want other schools, especially UGA, to set up their game and match Florida’s intentsity.
I want Richt and company to grow and pair and whip Florida’s ass THIS year, not next year or the year after “when we’re good again”. Mack Brown got his butt whipped against Bob Stoops, and I’m sure Texas fans whined and complained about how Brown could never win the big game. But the last few years, Texas has figured it out and has handed it to Oklahoma. It can be done!
The bottom line: I can give two craps where Urban Meyer goes. I just want to see my football team Man Up, and kick some Gator ass. 20 years is long enough dammit! They kicked their ass in 2007, do it again.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:08 am
Nortre Name = No
NFL = Probably
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:13 am
Agreed dan. I want Urban to stay so we can beat Fla at their best. I just think he is a job jumper. Plus there is NO WAY Meyer goes to the No Fun League. He can’t pull the my way or the highway crap with players who have lawyers and agents and contracts. He is WAY to controlling to ever go to the NFL. The first time a player said no to him he would be back in the NCAA so fast it would make your head spin.
Rickster
July 20th, 2009
10:16 am
Are Urban Meyer and “”Papa John” Schnatter the same person?
Buck Strickland
July 20th, 2009
10:24 am
Jeff, I wouldn’t call him a liar. He’s doing his job and protecting the program. Reporters ask, he answers. Can you imagine if we all had to deal with being asked about whether we were looking to switch jobs? If I knew my answer was going to be made public record, I’d lie and say what’s in the best interest of my career and family. Jeff, calling coach Meyer a liar may be technically correct but if it weren’t for the media the man wouldn’t have to lie like he did in the past. And “no comment” unfortunately doesn’t work these days so don’t try to say he should be responding with that.
Elliot Garcia
July 20th, 2009
10:24 am
Urban must be a really good coach….nobody ever talked about Ron Zook leaving….I guess you don’t see any other university clamoring to hire away Richt either….
Craig
July 20th, 2009
10:24 am
Gator fans are truly in denial. The point is – Urban has consistently lied about coaching job opportunities. It’s not about a “better job”. It’s about a bigger challenge. ND was once the storybook program in college football. It’s now a joke or at least a non-issue anymore. Add to the fact Urban has already mentioned this as his dream job. Add all of this together and you have – no credibility on his denials, a MAJOR challenge with bringing this program back to prominence, and Urban saying before this is his dream job. He’s achieved everything he possibly can at UF. This year he can achieve a trifecta there. He has a Heisman achievement there. He’s tapped out. Time for him to move on. An ego like his cannot afford to stay there to eventually see him fizzle out like many others. The days of JoePa and Bowden remaining loyal decades to a top program are over. Meyer will move on. Better go ahead and make a name plate of Charlie Strong or someone else.
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 20th, 2009
10:25 am
Wishful thinking by Dawg and SEC fans.
Yap all you want. Whatever. Schultz, you’re an enabler.
I suppose he could stay 40 years like Bowden at Florida State, but my guess is he’ll have a short career because of the intensity with which he does his job. Just our cross to bear.
In the meantime, I am really enjoying the Fall every year. Aren’t you?
AltamahaDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:27 am
As I said before, Meyer used the equivalant of the fingers crossed. If he didn’t refer to himself in the third person, so it doesn’t count.
I hope he stays though.
Chris Trudeau
July 20th, 2009
10:30 am
For the love of everything that is holy, please…TRY HARD to come up with something interesting to talk about. There are plenty of examples of people questioning whether he will leave or not…so to pile on and give yourself some “I told you so on {insert date here}” palaver shows that you are phoning your job in, sadly, probably from a payphone…
ByteMe
July 20th, 2009
10:31 am
so here’s my question back: if reporters really know he’s lying when he answers, why ask the question at all? Seems like something just to fill space.
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:33 am
One thing no one has aked. Why do you think Charlie Strong has stayed? No job offers? Give me a break. Strong has stayed because Meyer has told him this is his last year and after this the program is his. It has all been worked out.
FALCONS SORRY
July 20th, 2009
10:41 am
IS MEYER A LIAR? YES HE IS! AND SO IS THAT LIAR AUTHUR BLANK! THOSE TWO CHEETERS AND LIARS NEED TO WORK TOGETHER! ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IS LIE AND BETRAY PEOPLE WHO TRUST THEM!
charliedawg
July 20th, 2009
10:43 am
Rickster – I think Urban is taller tham Papa John…..
m
July 20th, 2009
10:45 am
Maybe if Meyer leaves floriduh, then floriduh can bring back one of their own…none other than floriduh PE major and bench warmer chan gomer gailey. Maybe he can wreck their program just like he did Tech’s.
irish fan in GA
July 20th, 2009
10:46 am
OK… Urban did not take the job before. He has not been offered the job again. I think Urban just has a big head and thinks he can rattle the Gators fans. I think Urban will be in the NFL in 2 years. Not at Notre Dame. If Coach Weis does not do the job, ND will not go back to a choice the said no! Maybe Lou will come back???
The Truth
July 20th, 2009
10:46 am
Why would Meyer leave? He has the easiest job in college football. He has had the good fortune to walk into a situation where someone else handed him arguably the best college football player of all time for four years, and at the same time this coincided with FSU and Miami being way down from their glory years. Not to mention Meyer barely has to walk out his door to find the best athletes in the country salivating to play for the obscenely fortunate Gators. Notre Dame would be a nightmare compared to the ease of coaching at UF. On second thought, maybe that would be a good reason to leave. To prove he can do it without Tebow and without the monstrous recruiting advantage he has over any other school.
charliedawg
July 20th, 2009
10:50 am
BTW, I want Charlie Strong to leave, not UM. Gators have won the SEC and NC by having a great defense, look what happened when they did not have a great defense, 8-4.
Jeff, write an article as to why Charlie has not gotten a head coaching job, someone needs to now that TM is gone,
AltamahaDawg
July 20th, 2009
10:51 am
I think some of you are simply misunderstanding the point, or you do understand but can’t resist the chance to take a stab at somebodies that you you have no idea what they are all about.
Any coach of any character SHOULD refuse to fuel the speculation of taking another coaching job. You don’t spit on your existing employer, and you don’t play your hand in the media. You construct a statement that is accurate as of this moment in time.
It’s a job, obviously it’s subject to change. The motivation of asking him the question is far more “dishonest” than any answer he is likely to give. As if it really matters what the answer was.
The Actual Truth
July 20th, 2009
10:56 am
The Truth: No one else handed Tebow to Meyer. Meyer recruited Tebow. I am not a Florida fan or a Gator Hater, but maybe we can mix a few facts into the discussion.
Comin' Down The Track
July 20th, 2009
10:57 am
Everyone is missing the point. The bait here is for the wishful thinkers. Look, I can’t stand Coach Meyer either. I think he’s a slimy weasel. I have very little evidence to back up that claim. I simply BELIEVE it. There is very little evidence to suggest Coach Meyer is leaving so, you can BELIEVE Coach Meyer is going to leave all you want. It doesn’t make it so. Repeating it ad nauseum doesn’t make it so. Better to just beat him where he stands and shut up, writers and commenters alike, about him leaving. Just change the culture. Spurrier did it there. We can do it here, too. GATA
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July 20th, 2009
11:01 am
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kudzoo
July 20th, 2009
11:08 am
Evidently Jeff is a descendant of Sgt. “I know N-O-T-H-I-N-G!” Shultz.
Rebel Ace
July 20th, 2009
11:14 am
Ole Miss fans could care less. We’ll still own Florida. Hey, Gators, it’s foruth down — go for it! LOL
Howard
July 20th, 2009
11:15 am
I am a Gator. I wonder why this is such a hot topic. I wonder if it is because so many Dawg fans hope that Meyer will leave in the belief that GA will then be competitive with Florida. I doubt that if Meyer leaves there will a drop off at Florida. They will just find another young coach. Even when Zook was there they still beat Georgia. The reality is that Florida has now surpassed Georgia for a number of reasons. First, Florida has more athletes in the state to recruit. Second, Florida is a bigger school creating greater alumni nationwide and therefore more exposure. I am surprised by the number of Gators in Atlanta. Georgia is a great university and has a great football coach, but I think the expectations at Georgia are a bit too high. Florida is now an elite school for athletics and in the same class as USC, Texas, and Ohio State. Georgia is a great school and can win the SEC and maybe even a national title but not in the league with those schools. this is true with or without Meyer.
TPA
July 20th, 2009
11:17 am
Most Gator fans know that Meyer will leave eventually. It just won’t be to Notre Dame. Florida is a better program than ND and has been since 1980. Moron rivals are left playing with themselves over the fact that Meyer will eventually leave…that is what it has come to and its pretty pathetic. Grow some juevos!
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
11:26 am
Hey, Rebel Ace, it is the day of the National Championship game…I hope the Ole Miss players are enjoying their chips and beer in front of the TV and Tebow wins another National Title!
Sim
July 20th, 2009
11:27 am
Columns such as this have led to the downfall of the sportswriter in favor of the blogger. Putting forth opinions based on no real information, all the while hedging your bet by not explicitly stating any real thoughts is bush league writing. Keep dreaming ‘dawg fans, Meyer will be around long enough.
GatorNation
July 20th, 2009
11:33 am
Dont be surprised if Urban Meyer is still at Florida after Richt is gone.
Bob Costa Nostra Dame-us
July 20th, 2009
11:34 am
Here’s what’s gonna happen, as stated by a previous poster. Richt to Miami next year; Urban to UGA. What better challenge than to elevate the Dawgs that last rung or two ? Dawg fans are gonna LOVE it.
tenn.DAWG
July 20th, 2009
11:35 am
He may be an arrogant,egotistical liar,and not even liked
in the confines of his own institution (uf),but he’s not stupid.If he wants to go out on top he will leave with Teebow.
Me
July 20th, 2009
11:39 am
I know it’s the slow hot summer months but exactly how many times is this “story” going to be warmed over!
GATORPAYER
July 20th, 2009
11:40 am
If he leaves he leaves. Coaches are always moving on to the next job or getting fired. We will hire a good coach and we will win again. My choice would be Bell but we all know that won’t happen.
RJS
July 20th, 2009
11:40 am
Personally, I think Meyer will end up leaving for the nfl after winning another national championship this year, but I find it amusing how Gator college football “fans” have such little knowledge of what college football is all about. College football is about history and traditional. Notre Dame has it in spades and Florida does not. At heart, Urban Meyer is still that kid from Ohio who grew up worshipping Notre Dame football- if you’re not from the North, you will never understand what that means. Meyer would have taken the ND job over Florida the first time around if ND had made a remotely decent offer.
TPA- get your decades straight- ND was much, much better than Florida throughout most of the eighties and into the nineties. I’m no Irish apologist, I relish ever Irish loss- especially the bowl blowouts, but I also live in reality.
G8R8U2
July 20th, 2009
11:40 am
Of course we still feel the same way about Meyer. Most of us already know he said all those things… we’re also bright enough (unlike this and the other “journalists” who’ve posed the question) to realize he said those things before taking better jobs… moving UP in the college football world. Not to sound arrogant or anything, but there isn’t anywhere farther UP for Meyer to go. In the last 2 decades, UF has won more games and NC’s than any other program in the country; and he’s sitting on the best recruiting hotbed in the nation to go along with that. If Meyer leaves, which most Gator fans think he EVENTUALLY will; it’ll be to the NFL, and after his 11-year old is out of school. I’d like for some of you guys to actually come up with some facts and actual sources of all this speculation (other than the same lame quote saying, “Notre Dame WAS my dream job”); and quit just copying and pasting the same article all over the internet… didn’t you guys learn about plagiarism in school? Don’t answer that. It was rhetorical; and I can tell by the efforts that few of you went to journalism school, or at least to a reputable one. Florida State or Miami is probably Mark Richt’s dream job, too; but he’s never going there because he’s got a good thing going where he is… and much less reason to stay put than Meyer, I might add.
the Future
July 20th, 2009
11:46 am
Get ready dawgs for another arce whouping.he will stay at FL.
scott
July 20th, 2009
11:48 am
Holy crap, you Gator fans are some weird-obsessed dudes. I had no idea that Urban issued the typical patented denial less than a week before he bolted in both ‘02 and ‘04, and so it was interesting to read it here. What a tool. No more a tool than so many others, to be fair. But a tool nonetheless.
So wrting this column demonstrates a lack of creativity? lol. What do ya want Schultzie to write about, Gator softball or Gator synchronized swimming?
miles
July 20th, 2009
11:49 am
Why do journalists expect a head football coach to divulge their dream jobs/aspirations prior to any finalized contract and then they call them liars when they accept another job? Jim Mora fell for this and look what happened to him. Hey Jeff Schultz, why don’t you tell us who you really want to work for when you can finally escape the doldrums of the AJC? I’m sure this will help in your current employee reviews and salary negotiations, as well as improve your working relationships (but at least random, unknown bloggers won’t call you a liar). Most head football coaches are smart and they aren’t going to let the media dictate and manage their careers and working relationships for print fodder. Even if Meyer leaves after 5 seasons, he’s taken UF football to unbelievable heights (4 seasons = 2 natl championships, 2 sec championships, 1 heisman trophy player with a 83% winning % overall (77% in the sec)). Instead of calling him a liar, maybe you can call him what he really is: a successful, winning, dedicated coach who owns the SEC (including the dawgs).
alabamadawg
July 20th, 2009
11:50 am
Great column Jeff, Thanks !!
Mark
July 20th, 2009
11:51 am
Mark Richt is leaving UGA to take over at FSU when Bowden is tossed out/retires.
That has as much credibility as this article. I guess, if you can’t beat ‘em, try to figure out a way to run them off. Is this College Football or Washington Politics?
Keep wishing…..
Okefenokee Dawg
July 20th, 2009
11:52 am
Don’t know if Urban will go or stay. I personally think he will stay. But I can’t control it, so I don’t worry about it. Don’t think Urban lied, he told the truth at that point in time to protect his program at that time. Besides, lying to the media is not a sin and never has been. If Richt can start to beat Florida, this will all be moot. And, if he can’t we will all be talking about Georgia’s new coach.
Mark
July 20th, 2009
11:54 am
You guys are delusional on the Tebow front. Doesn’t anyone remember that John Brantley broke all of Tim’s passing records in Florida and was the Player of the Year in his senior year in High School. Tebow is a great player; but that does not mean there is not a great player to follow him.
Really?
July 20th, 2009
11:55 am
TampaGator-Didn’t you say at 8:37 that was going to be your last blog? You are always on here being so defensive? If you aren’t worried about him leaving and so sure that UF is going to win another title why are you always on here trying to get everyone to believe you? If I was as confident as you I would just sit back and relax.
Johnny DangerDawg
July 20th, 2009
11:55 am
AltamahaDawg,
Well said. Saying “I’m staying” is really the only option for a coach until after he has signed with his new team. But we can still criticize guys who handle it poorly. (e.g. Bobby Petrino, who didn’t even have the guts to face his Falcons players when he decided to skip town at midnight)
Mark
July 20th, 2009
11:58 am
By the way Jeff, aren’t you just channeling Paul Finebaum? I somehow thought plagarism was frowned upon in journalism. I had somehow given you more credibility than that, but if that is how low you have sunk, it is pretty sad commentary.
Georgia is doing ok in recruiting this year – do you really need to go to these great lengths to make things up and try to help? I guess impartiality is too much to expect.
Ted Striker
July 20th, 2009
12:03 pm
TampaGator @ 8:34: Thanks for explaining theology, politics, and college football to me — all in less than 50 words. Of course none of it made any sense but you receive a bonus point for proper spelling and keeping it brief.
G8R8U2
July 20th, 2009
12:04 pm
You really have to wonder about the abilities of folks to properly assess a situation. Apparently, lots of people (admiitedly, they’re the terrified supporters and fans of opponents) seemingly have no problem putting plenty of emphasis on certain quotes from Meyer, and giving no weight whatsoever to others. For instance, the only reason anybody even speculates that Meyer might go to ND is because of the quote, “Notre Dame was my dream job”. Everybody seems to have no trouble believing THAT quote; even though all the “journalists”, including this one, claim in their reprocessed “articles” that you can’t trust what a coach says. LOL. Well, which is it… can we trust what they say or not? If he’s being dishonest about his intention to stay at UF “for a very long time”, then he could be exaggerating about his desire to be the ND coach, too… no? And, honestly, we all know he was talking about a team he grew up rooting for, and not really that he had any intention of actually going there. How do we know? BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAD A CHANCE TO BE THE COACH AT NOTRE DAME. He had 2 job offers in late 2004, ND and UF. He chose UF; and said the reason was because he wanted to coach at a program where he could compete for NC’s… which is also the reason he left Utah. Of course, we know nobody really thinks he’s leaving UF for ND, and people are just trying to annoy the Gator fans. And, we know that because nobody is stupid enough to think a guy would abandon a program he’s turned into a powerhouse, and who is defining Florida’s “tradition” as we speak, with his own signature on it… and we all know Meyer isn’t stupid, either; and he’d have to be to give up UF for ND. Sorry to all the traditionalists out there; but tradition doesn’t mean squat if you don’t keep doing what it is that gave you the tradition in the first place… just ask Princeton and Yale how important their 43 NC’s are to their football programs TODAY.
Dawg95
July 20th, 2009
12:04 pm
I have a theory that I haven’t heard anyone else bring up anywhere. There are a few undisputable facts that contribute to my theory.
1. Meyer is a huge believer in his style of offense.
2. He is a huge believer in Tim Tebow.
3. Popular opinion is that the spread offense will never work in the NFL for various reasons.
4. Popular opinion is that Tebow is not going to be sought after as an NFL Qb.
5. Urban Meyer is a very strong willed individual.
My theory is that Meyer goes to the NFL on the stipulation with whichever team it is, that they draft Tebow in the first round. Any NFL team looking for a coach will have been bad enough to have a high first round pick next year. And tebow is not going super early in the draft otherwise, so he would definitely be available even by the fifth selection in the draft or so.
I know this all might sound like a conspiracy theory, but I think Meyer would love nothing better than taking his offense, and his golden boy QB, to the NFL just to prove all of the detractors wrong!! Hence the I’m never going to Notre Dame statement. That sounds pretty definitive to me, and I actually believe him on that.
Ken Oberkfell
July 20th, 2009
12:07 pm
Urban Meyer is a jerk with no personality. He also enjoys beating the crap out of the mutts so he’s OK in my book..
45-42
ReptilesRule
July 20th, 2009
12:09 pm
Well I guess if you can’t beat ‘em, hope they leave!!
Really Stupid?
July 20th, 2009
12:11 pm
Why in the world would Meyer leave? He’s got the easiest job…beating Georgia every year!
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
12:12 pm
RJS, your reality is a little unclear for you. Notre Dame’s offer to Meyer was about the same as the Florida offer. In fact, Notre Dame was willing to match the Florida offer. Therefore, the reality is that Meyer’s decision had nothing to do with money. Meyer took the Florida job for two main reasons: 1. Recruiting for Florida would be easier and would take him not far or long from his family which he loves and wants to spend a lot of time with. 2. The recognized that the Florida job had more potential than the Notre Dame job (and it was in Florida, not Indiana) and could become the best coaching job in America, which it has.
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 20th, 2009
12:12 pm
Tampa: In my opinion, the only ones we have no right to yap about are the Mississippi schools. They are ALWAYS trouble, doesn’t matter if they’re ranked or 0-5 coming into our game. I’m always a little quiet until after the Ole Miss game (or even Miss St).
Hell, we won a mythical national championship and still couldn’t handle Ole Miss. Kinda like Saban’s LSU championship during the Zook years when we were the only team in the country to handle the national champions.
G$DAWG
July 20th, 2009
12:13 pm
As a UGA fan, I wouldn’t mind seeing Urban leave. Of course, it seems whomever UF hires to be the head football coach has had no difficulty in beating UGA. And that’s the point: what coach Meyer has done at UF is nothing short of remarkable. Frankly, he has proven to be a far superior coach then coach Spurrier. Meyer owns the State of Flordia, has the best program in the SEC, and right now the best program in college football. The only reason he may choose to leave is because he is bored with the success at Florida and may want a real challenge; which in the case it should not be Notre Dame but somewhere help is really needed, like Washington State. However, Meyer has enough competition from Georgia, Alabama, and LSU to make it interested and with new wildcards at Tennessee, Auburn—plus the always fiesty Vanderbilt—and a reinvigorated Ole Miss and Arkansas—he might find it fun to stay on for awhile longer. I hate the Gators but you have to respect what the guy has done, whether we like it or not.
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 20th, 2009
12:16 pm
The reason you Georgia types can’t win is you think it’s easy. “Urban Meyer’s got it easy”. It ain’t easy. If it was easy, everybody’d be doing it.
It’s hard. And it’s hard waking up every day and doing it again. The reason Urban has been successful is transferring that consistent intensity to a weight room in July and a study hall in March.
I can understand people not liking Urban – he’s a little gruff and comes off as arrogant at times – but you’ve got to respect him, no?
warhorse
July 20th, 2009
12:16 pm
Funny that the bozos stuck at the bottom of the career chain are the one who write columns like this about someone leaving. Shutzie is at the absolute bottom of newspapers — and he does not get offers from decent newspapers. He is living vicariously through Urban who is good enough to be in demand. Enjoy the fantasy that life will hand the poodles a gift in the departure of Urban — but away from the fantasy enjoy the beatdown in Jax at the hands of Urban for another decade. Wake up from the dream of his departure.
Prog
July 20th, 2009
12:16 pm
If Meyer goes to Notre Dame then Paul Johnson may replace him. When Bowden retires, Richt will leave UGA and be replaced by Leeman Bennett who may want to unretire. Who will replace Paul Johnson?
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
12:18 pm
Really? I am sitting at home with a badly damaged leg (car accident) and have nothing else to do but read a book and surf the net (I hate TV unless a college football game is on). Therefore, I admit I am being an abnorml blogger the last few days. Please excuse, as it beats wondering or worrying about when I will be able to walk normally again. Defensive. No, I think I am being offensive in the land of the Dawg bloggers, although I sometimes get a little support from my Gatornation bloggers.
Art Vandelay
July 20th, 2009
12:18 pm
Jeff, I’ve defended you countless times against charges of complete idiocy from your readers, but I can’t back you up here (not that you need me to). Meyer would be an absolute fool to leave UF (or any SEC school) for Notre Dame. He’s got the best athletes in the country practically lining up to play for him, and he has unlimited funding for his program (and his salary). Notre Dame will not be able to compete with UF on either a financial or a facility level — sure, they can pay Meyer as much as UF does, but not more, as UF would certainly match any offer above his current salary. The recruiting issue is also very significant. Part of the problem Weis is having at ND has to do with their higher admission standards, and the lack of appeal of playing in a town like South Bend as opposed to Gainesville, Athens, Tuscaloosa, Knoxville, etc. And finally, the so-called “lies” pointed out from Meyer’s previous jobs are irrelevant to this discussion. Leaving Bowling Green for Utah is a no-brainer career choice, as is leaving Utah for UF. There’s no higher position in college football than the one he has now. The NFL is a possibility, I suppose, but Meyer has also said multiple times that he has no interest in coaching in the pros.
KJ
July 20th, 2009
12:19 pm
I wonder if the Bowling Green/Utah fans were this delusional right before their coach left.
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
12:22 pm
warhorse, those comments were uncalled for. There are literally thousands of journalist out there that would love to have Schultz’s job. Now, I do think the man could have done his research for the story a little better and put some reasons both ways why Meyer would leave or stay at Florida. But, if he had done his research, he would have realized why Meyer went to FLorida and why he will not leave…and therefore he would not have written the story in the first place.
tip
July 20th, 2009
12:24 pm
I don’t know Urban Meyer. But personally I would want a new challenge if I were a coach in his shoes. Without new challenges even winning gets boring. He’s accomplished it all in such a short amount of time. I’d actually argue that he’s less of a coach if he does not leave in the next few years.
Deniro
July 20th, 2009
12:25 pm
How on earth can you people say those comments from Meyer at Utah and Bowling Green were lies???
In one, he says he PLANS on being the coach there. Didn’t say he would never leave! Didn’t say he would entertain any offers.
In the other one, he said one contacted him, and he wasn’t interested….we have no idea what school THAT was. But when Utah came, obviously he WAS interested.
Neither of those comments were lies and it’s really reaching to act like they were.
mexdawg
July 20th, 2009
12:28 pm
This is old news.I told you guys 6 months ago that this is gonna happen.ND goes 7-4 this year and then Myer gets the call.Sorry gators but that’s the way it’s gonna happen.
dawes
July 20th, 2009
12:28 pm
why you want to keep the cry baby all is acry baby he cry when georgia players went on the after they score a touchdown any when they had miami beat in the last minute of the game i call that trying to run the score so cry on baby
Deniro
July 20th, 2009
12:28 pm
And for all the….”but wouldn’t he want a new challenge??” folks….
Did Bear Bryant want a new challenge? John Wooden at UCLA? Coach K at Duke? Bobby Bowden at fsu?
Why is it okay for all these iconic coaches to stay at their school for a long time, but Meyer…no way! It would be boring!!
Actually I think it would be pretty exciting and challenging to try and eclipse the Bear in the SEC and stay at UF.
Deniro
July 20th, 2009
12:30 pm
“This is old news.I told you guys 6 months ago that this is gonna happen.ND goes 7-4 this year and then Myer gets the call.Sorry gators but that’s the way it’s gonna happen.”
we all know that’s what you are hoping and praying for. I would be too after losing 16 out of 19 to the Gators.
tip
July 20th, 2009
12:31 pm
Imagine, he could take Utah undefeated win 2 or 3 championships at Florida, rebuild and win championships at Notre Dame, maybe even go to Syracuse from there and win a NC. He’d be bigger than the Bear forever.
If he stays at Florida and wins then he will be a superstar on the same level as the Bear. Glory is so much greater when you take chances and still succeed.
Gatorzone
July 20th, 2009
12:31 pm
Tampa, I got your back. Sorry about the leg. You got some gator support from over in St. Pete!
Zone
Art Vandelay
July 20th, 2009
12:31 pm
Gov. Tyree (or should we call you Skink?): You get my award for best name on this blog. A Hiassen reference on a story about UF could not possibly be more apropos.
TampaGator
July 20th, 2009
12:33 pm
This IS my last post on Meyer leaving Florida. Got a good book I have to finish. Ask yourself this question? Why would Meyer work so hard the last 3 years to build up such a great program at Florida (including building the best training, weight room, and welcoming facilities in the country) and then just pack up and leave? Some day those same facilities will be named for the man…about 20 years from now when he retires as Gator head coach (and after an 18-2 record against Georgia during that time period). Sora nora (sp?)
G8R8U2
July 20th, 2009
12:34 pm
Question: How many SEC coaches are coaching at their alma mater or the program they grew up rooting for, i.e. their “dream job”?
Answer: None.
Nick Saban is headed to West Virginia. Why? Because that’s the school he grew up rooting for, and he was once an assistant there. Les Miles is headed to Michigan. Why? Because that’s his alma mater, and he was once an assistant there. Gene Chizik is leaving AU, and taking UF’s vacant coaching position. Why? Because he grew up rooting for Florida, and he played there. Mark Richt is heading to Nebraska, Miami, or FSU, depending on who has an offer first (probably Miami). Why? Because he grew up rooting for Nebraska. played at Miami, and was an assistant at FSU. Dan Mullen is leaving his new position at MSU, and heading to PSU to take over for Paterno. Why? Because he was a Penn State fan growing up, of course. Bobby Petrino is leaving Arkansas for Montana. Why? Well, he’s from Montana, and was an assistant at schools in the area, like Idaho and Nevada. Bobby Johnson is leaving Vandy for Clemson. Houston Nutt is headed to Oklahoma State after this year. Why? Because he’s already had his dream job at Arkansas; and he’s going to the other program where he played and was an assistant. Lane Kiffin is headed to Minnesota or Fresno State next year. Why? Well, because he was born in Minnesota, played at Fresno, and neither expects much from their football coach. Rich Brooks is headed to Oregon State after this season. Why? Why because he played there, and was an assistant there, of course. Oh, and Spurrier, he’s going to the Senior’s Golf Tour. Why? Because he’s already had his dream job, and he’s a scratch golfer.
Gatorzone
July 20th, 2009
12:34 pm
dawes, are you drunk?
Gator Nation
July 20th, 2009
12:37 pm
First of all Urban won’t be leaving anytime soon. He will be signing a new long term contract that will ensure him and his family lifetime financial security. But someday, probably maybe in 5-7 years or so he probably will need a change as NOTHING lasts forever. There are no more Bobby Bowdens or Joe Paternos out there. But because of Steve Spurrier, Jeremy Foley, and now the success of Meyer, Florida has now become such a power with its wealth, top notch facilities, recruiting base and fan base that no one man can overshadow the program. I can remember when Spurrier left, one of my Ohio State friends said to me “man, Steve Spurrier WAS Florida Football, what’s gonna happen to Florida now?” Well, we have all seen what has happened. It has come to that at Florida, the program itself is self substaining and will maintain excellence drawing the best talent whether it be coaches, players or administration.
Dawg95
July 20th, 2009
12:52 pm
I have a theory that I haven’t heard anyone else bring up anywhere. There are a few undisputable facts that contribute to my theory.
1. Meyer is a huge believer in his style of offense.
2. He is a huge believer in Tim Tebow.
3. Popular opinion is that the spread offense will never work in the NFL for various reasons.
4. Popular opinion is that Tebow is not going to be sought after as an NFL Qb.
5. Urban Meyer is a very strong willed individual.
My theory is that Meyer goes to the NFL on the stipulation with whichever team it is, that they draft Tebow in the first round. Any NFL team looking for a coach will have been bad enough to have a high first round pick next year. And tebow is not going super early in the draft otherwise, so he would definitely be available even by the fifth selection in the draft or so.
I know this all might sound like a conspiracy theory, but I think Meyer would love nothing better than taking his offense, and his golden boy QB, to the NFL just to prove all of the detractors wrong!! Hence the I’m never going to Notre Dame statement. That sounds pretty definitive to me, and I actually believe him on that.
archangeladidas
July 20th, 2009
12:56 pm
i don’t know if even one was paying attenion but les miles did say that he would not leave lsu for michigan. all these so called experts said that he was gone and headed for big blue. what happened? Go GATORS!!!
archangeladidas
July 20th, 2009
12:58 pm
to tampagator…losing another game to these garbagedawgs is not an option. 19-1 is more like it! Go GATORS!!!
Sanford Drive
July 20th, 2009
1:02 pm
This is stupid. Urban isn’t going anywhere. He’s in the middle of building a dynasty.
Dawg95
July 20th, 2009
1:04 pm
Did anyone see my post from earlier about my theory on Meyer, Tebow, and the NFL? I’ve posted it twice now, and I dont see either of them anywhere! There was no profanity in it, so I don’t understand why it’s not showing up.
Red and Black Attack
July 20th, 2009
1:06 pm
Who cares???!!! Let the big dawg eat!!!!!!
Legpuller
July 20th, 2009
1:09 pm
Dawg95, I, in my infinite wisdom, judged your posts to be inferior, and so intercepted them. If you’re real nice and try again, maybe I’ll let it go thru.
Whatever
July 20th, 2009
1:10 pm
None of you are taking into account Urban’s Catholicism. It’s well known that one of the reasons he agreed to take the Florida job is because Billy Donovan showed him that there is a strong Catholic network in Gainesville. Of course, the opportunity to return to prominence the largest and most well-known Catholic university in the world to might be hard to pass up for Urban.
Dawg95
July 20th, 2009
1:18 pm
I have a theory that I haven’t heard anyone else bring up anywhere. There are a few undisputable facts that contribute to my theory.
1. Meyer is a huge believer in his style of offense.
2. He is a huge believer in Tim Tebow.
3. Popular opinion is that the spread offense will never work in the NFL for various reasons.
4. Popular opinion is that Tebow is not going to be sought after as an NFL Qb.
5. Urban Meyer is a very strong willed individual.
My theory is that Meyer goes to the NFL on the stipulation with whichever team it is, that they draft Tebow in the first round. Any NFL team looking for a coach will have been bad enough to have a high first round pick next year. And tebow is not going super early in the draft otherwise, so he would definitely be available even by the fifth selection in the draft or so.
I know this all might sound like a conspiracy theory, but I think Meyer would love nothing better than taking his offense, and his golden boy QB, to the NFL just to prove all of the detractors wrong!! Hence the I’m never going to Notre Dame statement. That sounds pretty definitive to me, and I actually believe him on that.
G8R8U2
July 20th, 2009
1:19 pm
This “article” is little more than a copy and paste from the plethora of articles already written by other “journalists” who copied and pasted it, too. It’s almost verbatim what I read just a few days ago on the issue (which really isn’t even an issue at all). If there are thousands of other journalists out there that would love to have Shultz’s job, I sure wish they’d apply for it; because this is little more than blatant plagiarism being circulated among the lazy and poorly informed “journalists”.
As for the topic, the fact of the matter is that UF has won more games and NC’s in the last 2 decades than any other team in the country; and that’s no accident. People have known for some time that the population explosion in Florida was going to make it a recruiting mecca. In fact, Bear Bryant said some 30 or so years ago that, “If they ever get a coach down there, everybody else is going to be playing for second place.”. Nobody abandons a dynasty, right in the middle of it, to start all over and try to bring another program back to its heyday. Florida’s football program may not have the past prestige of other teams like ND; but they’re making their tradition right now, and Spurrier (123-27-1 .818 UF, 6 SECC, 1 NC) and Meyer (44-9 .830 UF, 2 SECC, 2 NC) own it… just like Rockne (105-12-5 .881 ND, 6 NC), Leahy (87-11-9 .855 ND, 4 NC) and Parseghian (95-17-4 .836 ND, 2 NC) own ND’s tradition. Everybody’s winning tradition has to start somewhere; and Florida’s just happens to have started later.
His Eminence
July 20th, 2009
1:20 pm
Catholic, smatholic. Get back to talking about football.
dawggirl
July 20th, 2009
1:20 pm
I can’t take anybody seriously that refers to themselves in the third person. The timeouts didn’t even have as much of an effect on me as that. What a self-consumed, egotistical blowhard. He could take a lesson or two from Tebow on the art of humility and graciousness.
bwell
July 20th, 2009
1:22 pm
Great article, Gatornation is falling from grace. Tebow and rest of the defense and will depart after this year and ND will fire bigboi, so yeah he will leave cause of the expectations being placed on him to win natl titles. Good bye…. oh yeah is daughter attending GT yet?
TheItalianDawg
July 20th, 2009
1:27 pm
good column! Personally, I believe he is gone as well, I live in Florida and I honestly can tell you 90% of Florida’s red necks are in Gainsville! but if Georgia beat Florida this season, I would love him to stay to see how well Florida will do in the post Tebow era. Fear the Dawgs! Georgia is rising.
Comin' Down The Track
July 20th, 2009
1:37 pm
Uh, TampaGator, I agreed with your initial argument. You’re not being particularly “… offensive in the land of the Dawg bloggers…” as probably half of us have said that even though we wish the meathead would bugger off, he’s got it made where he is. In fact, I went as far as to call on my fellow Dawgs who were on the wishful thinking train to disemBARK, put up and shut up. Beat coach Meyer with regularity and then start begging him to stay at UF.
Gator in the Hootch
July 20th, 2009
1:38 pm
Ah, come on Arch, the Gators are bound to mess up and lose at least one more game to the Bullpuppies in the next 20 years don’t you think?
Reality Check
July 20th, 2009
1:40 pm
bwell – keep hope alive man! Too bad UF will only lose 5 starters off it’s defense, and that’s assuming that Haden and Dunlap go pro. Their entire OL should be back and the backup QB would start at any SEC school not named Florida or Ole Miss.
And you know what, even if the Gators “fell from grace”… at least they’ve been there. But it’s not going to happen. You don’t put together 3-straight top 3 recruiting classes and not have some talent on hand. Besides, UF has already proven that they don’t need superior talent to beat UGA, but when they do it’s a blowout.
And nice wishful thinking about Meyer leaving. Tired subject. Move on, won’t happen.
Lee Dawg
July 20th, 2009
1:42 pm
Charlie Strong should have been a head coach a long time ago. His defenses at Carolina use to give us fits and the same can be said at Fla. That is a scenario I could understand. U.M. leaves for the NFL and Strong becomes coach. Personally though, I don’t think he will go anywhere. Neither is Richt going anywhere. It’s all just preseason fluff to get all the SEC fans going at it because the writers know we can’t wait for the season to begin!!!!!! Come on September 5th!!!!!!!
Nick
July 20th, 2009
1:45 pm
Hey ItaliianDawg – is that a Georgia fan calling someone else a redneck? Ever heard that saying about pots and kettles? Ever spent much time in Georgia?
Besides, you probably haven’t spent much time in Gainesville cause it’s more of a hippie city than anything else. Not that it’s any better, just sayin. Maybe you have it confused with Gainesville, GA?
Sick of you too
July 20th, 2009
1:46 pm
I sure hope they identify the person that filmed Erin Andrews nude in her hotel room. I need to know where to order a copy. Just kiddin. Seriously, Erin, you need to check those hotel closets for tiny holes in the future. By the way, Erin, what hotel do you go to next? Again just kiddin.
CJW80
July 20th, 2009
1:47 pm
Maybe Myer can go to the NFL, decide he hates it, deny he is interested in the UGA head coaching job, only to become the next Head coach at Georgia!!! Sounds Ridiculous Look at Old Douche bag himself Nick Saban!!!!!
Gator Rob
July 20th, 2009
1:49 pm
Lee Dawg, Amen brother.
It’s a crime that Charlie Strong is not a head coach. But I’m fine with him staying put.
Even though it’s not going to happen, just for arguments sake, I don’t think Strong would take the reigns if Meyer left. There’s a better chance they’d bring Mullen back. But Strong will make a hell of a head coach one day. He’s one of the top DC’s in the game.
Kevin G
July 20th, 2009
1:57 pm
First of all let me just say how proud i am to be a Bulldawg fan. After two national championships in recent years uga still out sells florida in football merchandise. championships or not i will always love my DAWGS because to us georgia fans its more than just winning . . . its the big family with more tradition than florida could dream of. With that said . . I hope urban stays at florida because recently there have been recruits not liking him as he comes across to them as the arrogant jerk he is. Example . . Number two Defensive tackle commits to georgia yesterday saying he really felt more comfortable with the man Richt is and did not get along too well with meyer. The sun will shine for the DAWGS soon dont worry about that. This is just a little run florida made just like USC .miami. Florida state. And such teams have made in recent history.
Lee Dawg
July 20th, 2009
1:58 pm
Strong would have been a perfect fit for Auburn. Great defense and pounding the ball.
HiFiGator
July 20th, 2009
2:02 pm
I’m glad I can count on clowns like Finebaum and this guy (not worthy of naming …), for a few laughs to help me get through the slow-moving summer. You know … the off-season between the Gators 3rd and fourth National Championship seasons.
This is also worth mentioning: there is only 1 team that has won multiple titles in both football and basketball. Any guesses? Yep, that would be Florida! Now look at it this way: after next season, Florid will not only have multiple Titles in both sports, but will have won Back-to-Back titles in both Football and Basketball.
Lastly: Notre Dame??? Isn’t that the school with the gay leprechaun for a mascot?
chazzo
July 20th, 2009
2:06 pm
If he gets two NCs in a row and being sans Tebow, I would have to believe that Meyer would consider other offers.
FSU already has their next HC on staff. It is in his contract. I don’t think Richt will leave UGA. He wants to be (and in my opinion is) a dynasty coach. He wants to have Cathedral size stained glass and David sized bronze statue of himself in Athens like Bowden does in Tally. I like Mark Richt, but I do hope the people of Athens are a little more tasteful than we were at FSU.
Big Jimmy
July 20th, 2009
2:08 pm
Kevin – are you really talking smack about who sells more merchandise? Wow. UGA sold more in 08 because of all the undeserved preseason hype they got. Let’s see who’s tops in 09, shall we?
And just to fill you in, that DT that committed to UGA was never considering UF and they weren’t actively recruiting him.. The whole announcement with him taking off the shirts was a dog and pony show. Nice PR stunt. Just proves that UGA is obsessed with UF.
Gator Rob
July 20th, 2009
2:14 pm
You know why Auburn wouldn’t hire Strong, right? Same reason most other SEC schools won’t.
chazzo – that was funny man. the stained glass is over the top. There are only a handful of other people I’ve ever seen in stained glass. And they all lived in or near Jeruselem about 2000 years ago.
Cuz
July 20th, 2009
2:20 pm
What if I decree that Meyer stays at UF and Richt stays at UGA. Will that make everybody happy? Great, glad I could help. S’mores anyone?
TybeeDawg
July 20th, 2009
2:22 pm
Well we can FINALLY put this debate to rest: Rival.com just accidentally leaked a video of Meyer announcing he was leaving UF for Notre Dame.
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chazzo
July 20th, 2009
2:57 pm
Strong was UFs best hire. He gave UGA fits at SC and continues to do so.
JSS
July 20th, 2009
2:58 pm
Hey Paddy, Where is the word “fan” anywhere in the word: “sports?” Hmmm… It isn’t!!! What I despise besides my nemesis (he knows who he is) is a bunch of grown people with nothing better to do than to slitter around athletic programs (whether they be scholastic or collegiate) like they are on the field of competition!!! AMAZING!!! The ancient Romans and the Incas may have had it right… Just kill tthe vanquished, imagine how empty the streets would be if the losers of that drunkfest in JAX were axed in the public square…
Now, I hope you realize how silly that sounds, almost as silly as the comment that you made and the importance that you folks put on BCS football… Straight SILLINESS!!!
AltamahaDawg
July 20th, 2009
3:15 pm
I saw that video too. Urban sporting a Fighting Irish shirt. I doubt that even Schultz knew how timely this article would be. WOW! Will Strong be named interim for this season?
Cuz
July 20th, 2009
3:36 pm
The part I liked in the leaked video of Meyer accepting the Notre Dame head coaching slot was the benediction given by Pope Benedict. When he compared Urban Meyer to Knute Rockne and Tim Tebow to George Gipp, I knew the Pope knew his football. And that reference to the four horsemen and backing it up with a few verses from Revelations of St. John, that was awesome.
how2fish
July 20th, 2009
3:41 pm
I want St.Urban to stay at FLA…and I want to beat him…he is the best at the moment, great team , great talent, great staff…when you play the best and you win then you beat the best…and playing the best makes you better , you train and plan harder because you know you will be playing the best..the SEC is better with all the great coaches currently in it than at any time before..we are contenders or winner of the MNC every year now. St.Urban has helped the league get better from top to bottom..and I still want to beat him..but you have to respect him..but I like the Dogs chances the next few years..I really think Florida is our biggest hurdle and your not bad if beating the current National Champs is your biggest hurdle…
Cuz
July 20th, 2009
3:48 pm
I agree how, but that also applies to eight other SEC teams. Their biggest hurdle is also the current holders of the Crystal football.
I wonder what the over and under is on Meyer bolting for the NFL if he wins back to back championships? What then would he have to prove at UF? I think that is the only scenario that is likely to happen. I really don’t see the Legend leaving for the Fussing Irish. And if he can contain his ego, he would stay at UF and follow Tebow into Sainthood.
Yes Sir!
July 20th, 2009
3:49 pm
TampaGator- is the good book that you have to read Urban’s book where he says that Notre Dame is his dream job?
DR
July 20th, 2009
3:55 pm
See you Urban!!
BG
July 20th, 2009
4:02 pm
Mark it down. Urban is gone after this year. Urban knows a qb like tebow only comes along once in a coaches career. Urban will never enjoy the same success he has now when tebow is gone. Uf will be a 8 or 9 win team at best in the future.
mq
July 20th, 2009
4:07 pm
Big Jimmy who are you kidding?? UF wanted Smith real bad. UF was pulling out all the stops to get Smith. I know Smiths coach and he told me Meyer really really wanted Smith at UF. Smith saw right through Meyers smoke and mirrors.
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Blackberry Cobbler
July 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
I’m a big UGA fan………………
BUT, as I recall, UF under Spurrier did a pretty good job of beating the Dawgs on a regular basis before Urban Meyer and Tebow.
Just because Tebow will be gone and Meyer might leave doesn’t change things. CMR has yet to prove he can beat any real talent in the SEC.
Chop Master
July 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
I will give Herban credit for not being very bright by saying it is his dream job. His wife chiming in with he really really really loved it at Notre Dame also was pretty smooth.
I guess he did not think Bernie are Jeremy would pick up on this.
Long Dawg
July 20th, 2009
4:39 pm
I don’t want Urban Myer to leave.You become the best by beating the best. The worm will turn. It always does. What he has accomplished at Florida is remarkable and there is nowhere to go but down and they will go down. He can’t continue on this streak because everyone in the league is gearing up to counter it. He has a good chance of winning the SEC and a National Championship this year and he should because Florida has the easiest schedule in the SEC. But if for some reason he doesn’t win both the SEC and the National Championship evey Florida fan is gonna think the season sucked. He has set the expectations so high he won’t be able to maintain his own standard. Then he will go to the NFL and make 10M a year.
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Bama Dee
July 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
Right now, Florida is better job than Notre Dame, however, the Dolphins was a better job than Alabama…but here is what everyone seems not to get. Notre Dame is a powerhouse name in college football. They have fell from prominence. Like Nick Saban is doing at Alabama, if Urban Meyer can bring that team back to the top in college football, his name WILL BE mentioned with coaches such as Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, Joe Paterno and the likes. What coach would not want that? Meyer is a great coach, however, let’s be clear…STEVE SPURRIER brought Florida to college football prominence and Meyer will NEVER get the same recognition in Gainesville.
shane#1
July 20th, 2009
5:19 pm
I have to disagree with Atlanta Gator on this one. UF is a much better ptogram than Notre Dame, as of now!! Let’s look to the future-1- ND has a cup cake schedule. Weis needs to win and win big this year. 2- Weis is what has been described as a “dark room guy”. He is excellent at sitting alone in a dark room and drawing Xs and Os, but as a people person, he sucks. 3- Meyer has said that CFB is a personel driven sport. All schemes are designed to win football games, it is just a matter of having the right people in place. 3- ND has several top five classes reaching maturity and anyone who saw Clausen play last year can see his potential. His stats were on par with Stafford, yet ND had to play UH in a no name bowl. Is anyone dumb enough to believe that Meyer’s QB coach could not make a winner out of Clausen? Tenuta is a hard nosed, agressive DC, I believe that Meyer would let him loose the dogs, no more co-DC. So what do we have? A nationaly recognized program loaded with athletes and a potentally great QB that has underachieved because of poor coaching. A nation wide recruiting base. Plenty of money, and a long history of great football. A creme puff schedule with a couple of big games thrown in, and we know Urban loves big games! Oh, and lest we forget, MAJOR MARKETS! If I was a coach I would take the first thing smoking if the ND job was open. Win there now and the NFL will be knocking at your door.
Mike T.
July 20th, 2009
5:55 pm
Hey Gator fans!
Don’t think just because Meyers said he won’t leave and go to ND,that he won’t do it. He also said on a ESPN Game Day show back in 2004 that he was not going to leave Utah for Florida either, but we saw otherwise.
Preston
July 20th, 2009
5:58 pm
I hope he stays long enough to see UGA turn the tide back our way like it was pre-Spurrier. It’s coming soon.
The Insider
July 20th, 2009
6:15 pm
A little tidbit info for you guys (and girls)out there…Looks like Meyer will have even more motivation to beat down a certain rival this year. Remember a couple of weeks ago when it was rumored that Matt Elam, a five star prospect Florida commit from south Florida suddenly might visit UGA and take other visits?? Well, it seems that someone (a for now un-named rival coach) told Elam that they KNEW Meyer was leaving UF after this season and going to ND. When Meyer caught wind of this, he asked Elam who told him that. That is the real reason Meyer came out with such a strong denial and saying “ever”, not Finebaums article. Lets just say that Meyer is fully aware of WHO it is and is NOT happy about it. He understands the “game” of recruiting and that there will always be rumors out there but THIS he considers an out and out lie and considers this almost like a “character asassination”. I WOULD NOT want to be that rival coach this season!! You can draw your own conclusions as to who the culprit is……..
wiley
July 20th, 2009
6:28 pm
Jeff – lock this blog in the chest with the moth balls so you can drag it out and hang it on the clothes line when Meyer leaves. My 2d choice is to just pack copies of it into Cracker jack boxes and ship to the state of FLA.
I’ve never seen so many gaytors PMSing over something. Girls please it’s embarrassing to see you get your panties in a wad over a hypothetical. What WILL you be like when he actually leaves for ND?
Having fun in Dalton
July 20th, 2009
6:36 pm
I’m a Georgia fan. Most importantly, I’m a fan of football. Now, like any other UGA fan, I don’t like Urban Myer either. But, I do recognize good coaching when I see it. Now even if Florida wins the BCS Championship this year, Myer is not going to stay at Florida. There will be nothing left for him to accomplish there. There is really nothing left for him to prove now at Florida. If Tebow would have went to the NFL, we wouldn’t be having the discussion now. So when He(Tebow) does leave along with the rest of the Florida defense(Brandon Spikes), Florida will be rebuilding. The talent that Florida has now is once a blue moon and I don’t think Myer is going to wait for the next blue moon.
So here’s my prediction. Florida will go to the BSC title game and probably will win it. So to all you delusional Florida fans that think Myer is going to stay: As soon as they hold up that trophy, he will be thinking about what he’s going to do at Notre Dame.
From a Georgia fan. That’s the bottom line.
Mike T.
July 20th, 2009
6:48 pm
“Mark Richt is leaving UGA to take over at FSU when Bowden is tossed out/retires. ”
Does Florida and Urban Meyer have a Jimbo Fisher? Didn’t think so. Example irrelevant. Apples and oranges.
Duluth Gator
July 20th, 2009
6:51 pm
Dawg Man, hey big boy you need to check the records, Zook beat your dawgs two out of three times so don’t go there with that crap that “Florida will probably hire some assistant on their staff who will be another Zook and then the dawgs will start winning again almost every year like the old days”… NOT
ckgator
July 20th, 2009
6:54 pm
Jeff – love your columns – and another great job creating something out of absolutely nothing. Sure Meyer will leave *one day.* Maybe in 20 years. Maybe next year. But the fact is that the recruiting advantages of Florida will never change, and UF is the flagship University of the state.
The sleeping giant is awake and has been now for 19 years. We will always have a great coach, period. Keep hanging your hats on the “jean shorts” comments Dawg fans! You are 1 play away from being South Carolina.
2N4YEARS
July 20th, 2009
6:57 pm
1) For all of you GATOR fans, by merely coming to this site & blogging are supporting Jeff’s colum, the same thing you are bashing. 2) As a GEORGIA fan for all of my life, I hate to lose a game, and it’s hard to believe that FLA has had the upper hand for nearly 20 years now. People can complain about the game being in FLA, but it didn’t seem to bother us DAWGS . The main difference I see is that FLA never takes UGA lightly –almost always taking the week off before the Cocktail Party. But the fact is that Richt, as much as I like him, hasn’t brought success for the DAWGS in the GA/FLA game. So for Meyer to leave wouldn’t mean much to me; Richt only beat Zook once too –after he was already fired.
2N4YEARS
July 20th, 2009
7:05 pm
For INSIDER and other arrogant FLA fans, I do believe Richt felt , let’s say very ‘cautious’ in last years game. It’s almost as if he felt guilty for smacking FLA so hard the year before.
This year I do believe that UGA will win that game. Richt won’t call any timeouts, but UGA will win.
Hillbilly Deluxe
July 20th, 2009
7:10 pm
If a coach doesn’t quit, he’ll eventually be fired. They might as well grab the brass ring while they can.
SamoanDawg
July 20th, 2009
7:24 pm
Who cares?!?
All I care about is the Dawgs!
MVP
July 20th, 2009
7:35 pm
Jeff can you and all the other AJC rejects come up with something original?That’s why I don’t subscribe to the AJC any more.
Dawg1
July 20th, 2009
7:47 pm
Well Jeff, at least you hung around and answered a few before hitting the back nine. Good way to get the hits up though.
You people are crazy. He isn’t going to take a college job ‘anywhere’ else. Florida has money, the state is loaded with talent, great weather and the fans love him. Spurrier kicks himself about once a week for ever leaving. Meyer will not make that same mistake.
Bank it. Personally hope he stays. UGA will win more than you think against the Gators over the next few years with our without Coach Meyer.
DAWG FARTS
July 20th, 2009
7:54 pm
In a few years Mark Richt will be gone from UGA with out winning a national championship…Meyer will add another SEC Title and 3rd National Title to his trophy case. Where will Jeff Schultz be at? cart crew @Target.
Leghumper
July 20th, 2009
7:59 pm
Time outs were legal. dancing in the endzone like a bunch 10 year old’s not. the ref’s and god hate UGA.
Gators 3x National Champs
July 20th, 2009
8:06 pm
Those same dumb Georgia fans here said Urban Spread would not work in the SEC…and Heisman winner Tim Tebow can’t throw either.
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
8:13 pm
We danced with time left to respond and win the game. T/O were taken when the game was over. BIG difference
Kevin G smokes crack
July 20th, 2009
8:14 pm
uga 28 years of failure and still counting
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
8:15 pm
Urban changed his offense in order for it to work, and will have to change it again when tbow leaves.
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
8:16 pm
10 win seasons and 2 SEC titles are hardly what anyone ould consider failure.
dan
July 20th, 2009
8:31 pm
Leghumper
Maybe if UGA rushed the endzone last year they would have won. That’s the attitude and mentality it takes to win. Florida lost that game in 2007 for all the wrong reasons. Florida fans piss and moan about Tebow being hurt, which is true to an extent. But Florida underestimated UGA going into that game, thinking they could gut out a victory over them. I gurantee that they thought ” eh it’s UGA, we don’t have to be at 100% to beat them”, and then they got exposed against a determined opponent.
The fact of the matter is Florida didn’t show up to play in that game, and they got exactly what they deserved, which is an ass whipping. The reverse was true this past year when Florida showed up and UGA didn’t.
But see here’s the thing: the endzone dance > timeouts. The endzone dance was a ballsy move and if UGA lost they would have looked stupid. But they won, so it was ace. The timeouts on the other hand weren’t ballsy at all. Passive aggressive maybe. But victory was already in hand. I didn’t think they were that big of a deal honestly. The Demps juke out was a lot worse IMO, but if UGA is going to suck then they get what they deserve.
BruffDawg
July 20th, 2009
8:43 pm
Does anyone have the 2009 media guide?
uga# 1 fan
July 20th, 2009
8:49 pm
I never been to a uga game muchless find athens with a gps but i do buy my uga gear at walmart. my dawgs will win it all in 09. they will beat those gayturds and yellow jackets.my dawgs will win the sec title and nc title too in 09.mark it down and book it. i been playing this same broken record for 30 years.go dawgs. meow meow
Urban said
July 20th, 2009
8:59 pm
Mutts game is over when I say it is over. TIME OUT! (legal too) …Mark Richt, UGA players and fans had to look at the clock whenever a time out was called.THE PAIN AND EMBARRASSMENT STILL HURTS TODAY. GATORS 49 GEORGIA 10
georgia dawgs
July 20th, 2009
9:04 pm
go to georgiadawgs.com click football then far right click media then click media guide 09 in pdf.
RandyRedBlood
July 20th, 2009
9:28 pm
Hey Urb…. sounds like you hear a Dawg biting right on your a!!
Dawg dominance is here!!!! Looks bleak Gay..tors!!
BKbroila
July 20th, 2009
9:32 pm
Georgia fans do not hope that Urban Meyer leaves….we hope he stays. You guys should hope Tebow stays on another couple years. Oh yeah, this is it…better repeat! This will be your last chance for a long time. Go Dawgs,
Barry Jay
July 20th, 2009
9:39 pm
Florida fans are so afraid Meyer will leave. It is hilarious. Thanks Jeff S. for stirring the pot.
When will Georgia win something?
July 20th, 2009
9:45 pm
Well when?
Carl
July 20th, 2009
9:56 pm
How can you compare a desire to leave after two national championships in three years (four years total) to a desire to leave Bowling Green and Utah.
Forgetting the fact that it is Florida which is the top recruiting state in the nation and where it is 80 degrees in late January early February- if Meyer had won two NC at Bowling Green and had the amenities that he has at Florida that are sorely lacking in Indiana, he would have stayed longer at Bowling Green also.
randyredblood smokes crack too
July 20th, 2009
9:59 pm
georgia only beat uf 3 times in the last 18 years? ohhhh yeah thats dominance for you mutts.HAHA 49 – 10
Flo-Ri-Duh!
July 20th, 2009
10:01 pm
As a UGA fan I hope Urban Meyer stays – he slipped in recruiting last year and UGA is out recruiting him this year…. there are signs of cracks and UGA will gain momentun after this upcoming season and will definitely beat Florida in “11 and for years to come.
KEEP MARK RICHT
July 20th, 2009
10:01 pm
HE HAS BEAT UF TWICE IN HOW MANY YRS?LOL
Flo-Ri-Duh!
July 20th, 2009
10:03 pm
Meyer is going anywhere – he has an unlimited supply of Escalades at his disposal.
don't care who uga recruits
July 20th, 2009
10:12 pm
they always choke…..richt never won nc crown or heisman @ uga….richt gets the state of florida leftovers….whoever uga recruits gators still beats them every year… if georgia recruit the so called best why can’t they win or make it to the bcs national championship game? or sec champ game? UGA OVER RATED!!!!!!
I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE
July 20th, 2009
10:15 pm
GEORGIA SUCKS !
gatordc09
July 20th, 2009
10:30 pm
It is possible Meyer may leave Florida. I think not next year, but the year after next. (Yeah, going out when you are at the top is there…we need to wait until we see florida win SEC and then NC this year…there is a good chance of it happening, not coach leaving)..
It just makes easy for Spurrier to come back and retire as a Gator coach….or J. Foley (AD) will go after Mike Shanahan (who will once again reject as he is slated to go back to NFL)…so, we have zooker #2…
Spurrier and Saban proved one thing – successful college coaches do not like coaching at NFL…their heart and soul seems to lie in college coaching..
gatordc09
July 20th, 2009
10:44 pm
I have an interesting “maybe situation”…
what if ND wins all its games and is chosen BCS #1..
What if FL wins all its games is chosen BCS #2…
If FL beats ND, would ND still want Meyer..
If ND beats FL, ofcourse not…
OR…ND goes to a BCS game, loses the game…will ND still go after Meyer?
One thing is for sure – Weiss is gone this year…and maybe belichick will hire him back in a heartbeat..
why wont ND go after pistol pete?
Mike T.
July 21st, 2009
12:15 am
Georgia sucks? Just remember Florida is Baja Georgia! 47-38-2 Dawgs!
Tom
July 21st, 2009
12:36 am
Sorry puppies, Urban is staying, More beatings to come.
Georgia is always over rated
July 21st, 2009
6:15 am
In 5 years at Florida, Urban has done more than Mark Richt 10 years at UGA. Every year Uga fans play that same broken record how they going to win it all. they fail as always. whine, cry why they didn’t do it. then they play their favorite song “wait till next year” when will georgia win a national title? Not with Mark Richt! HAHA LOSERS!
Cincinnati Gator
July 21st, 2009
6:58 am
Jeff – I suppose we could second guess everyone about everything they say or do. You for example could second guess President Obama 24/7, which in your case makes you eminently qualified, because after you’re the great Jeff Schultz. What I particularly object to is that fact that you in effect called Urban Meyer a liar, and you did it with such aplomb. Add to the fact that you’re also Nostradamus because Urban Meyer is certain to leave after one more season. Then in 2010, you’ll be able to spend your time picking apart the character of the Gator’s new football coach. You have such a fun job!
I love cold beer
July 21st, 2009
12:16 pm
Who cares where Crier goes? Yes he has won at Florida but he is a liar and a whiner. Anyone who actually cries about a endzone celebration in his book is pathetic, dont care what you have won.
Mullet
July 21st, 2009
12:18 pm
I agree, who give a fat dogs a$$ if Meyer leaves? That all you have to blog about?
chad
July 21st, 2009
6:17 pm
Jeff, this is just your lame way, to try and discredit Meyer in recruiting and help UGA.
I look forward to seeing your article the day after the game.
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I love cold beer… Anyone who cries over timeouts is pathetic
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