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	<title>Comments on: Face Off: Hawks need to get the point &#8212; and it&#8217;s Rafer Alston</title>
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		<title>By: Suicide lines: Grizzlies &#8216;threaten&#8217; to take Rubio, Rondo rumors &#8230; &#124; Hot NBA Videos.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suicide lines: Grizzlies &#8216;threaten&#8217; to take Rubio, Rondo rumors &#8230; &#124; Hot NBA Videos.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Schultz, AJC: &quot;There is a point guard who just started for a team that reached the NBA finals &#8212; and he&#8217;s available. He also comes with a contract considered Atlanta Spirit budget-friendly. Hello? The Hawks shouldn&#8217;t re-sign Mike Bibby. They should trade for Orlando&#8217;s Rafer Alston. He requires less of an investment than Bibby and might get them further in the playoffs. Look what he just did for the Magic? &#8230; Alston does not possess Bibby&#8217;s scoring ability. But he&#8217;s a better defender and can penetrate, which is what the Hawks need. And unlike the scenario of re-signing Bibby to a multi-year contract, acquiring Alston affords management flexibility after next season. A trade wouldn&#8217;t be difficult because Alston is 32 and expendable. Even then, they have pieces to move, starting with Marvin Williams.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Schultz, AJC: &quot;There is a point guard who just started for a team that reached the NBA finals &mdash; and he&rsquo;s available. He also comes with a contract considered Atlanta Spirit budget-friendly. Hello? The Hawks shouldn&#8217;t re-sign Mike Bibby. They should trade for Orlando&#8217;s Rafer Alston. He requires less of an investment than Bibby and might get them further in the playoffs. Look what he just did for the Magic? &#8230; Alston does not possess Bibby&#8217;s scoring ability. But he&#8217;s a better defender and can penetrate, which is what the Hawks need. And unlike the scenario of re-signing Bibby to a multi-year contract, acquiring Alston affords management flexibility after next season. A trade wouldn&#8217;t be difficult because Alston is 32 and expendable. Even then, they have pieces to move, starting with Marvin Williams.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sund &#38; Bradley Seperated @ Birth (NOT A COMPLIMENT) LOL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sund &#38; Bradley Seperated @ Birth (NOT A COMPLIMENT) LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. THIS ARTICLE GETS 5 STARS FROM ME!! ONLY THING IS IS THAT AL HORFORD ISNT GOING ANYWHERE. HORFORD IS A FAN FAVORITE AND IS PRAISED BY THE BUSINESS OFFICE!! ACIE DESERVE HIS CHANCE TO PROVE TO ALL THE DOUBTERS AND MIKE WOODSON THAT HE WILL AND CAN DOMINATE AS A POINT GAURD IN THE NBA! RAFER ALSTON SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT AND PRACTICAL IDEA BUT AS YOU SAID THIS IS THE BEST AS OUR ATLANTA HAWKS WILL GET WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. IM NOT SURE IF RAFER ALSTON IS A LEADER BUT ALLEN IVERSON IS A PROVEN LEADER PLAYER AND LED THE 76ERS TO THE FINALS. ONE MIGHT QUESTION A.I BC OF HIS PLAYING TIME WITH DENVER BUT IT WAS A DIFFICULT POSITION PLAYING WITH CARMELLO (ANOTHER BALL DEMANDER)..THE MOVE TO DETROIT PISTONS SHOULDVE NEVER HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALL AND ALL HE IS AVAILABLE AND WITH THAT BEING SAID THE HAWKS WOULDNTHAVE TO GIVE UP ANY OF THE PLAYERS. AND WITH THE 19TH PICK THEY CAN JUST FOCUS ON A CENTER THAT THEY CAN BUILD WITH FOR THE FUTURE AHEM..B.J MULLENS/DEJUAN BLAIR? 


09-10 SEASON STARTING 5:IVERSON,JOHNSON,WILLIAMS,SMITH,HORFORD

09-2010 BENCH:LAW,EVANS,MURRAY,PACHULIA,BLAIR (FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK)

RESERVES:JONES,WEST,HUNTER,GARDNER

ALLEN IVERSON/ACIE LAW OR RAFER ALSTON/ACIE LAW

P.S THE TEAM NEEDS RENOVATION NOT TOTAL DESTRUCTION...2010 EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAWKS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. THIS ARTICLE GETS 5 STARS FROM ME!! ONLY THING IS IS THAT AL HORFORD ISNT GOING ANYWHERE. HORFORD IS A FAN FAVORITE AND IS PRAISED BY THE BUSINESS OFFICE!! ACIE DESERVE HIS CHANCE TO PROVE TO ALL THE DOUBTERS AND MIKE WOODSON THAT HE WILL AND CAN DOMINATE AS A POINT GAURD IN THE NBA! RAFER ALSTON SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT AND PRACTICAL IDEA BUT AS YOU SAID THIS IS THE BEST AS OUR ATLANTA HAWKS WILL GET WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. IM NOT SURE IF RAFER ALSTON IS A LEADER BUT ALLEN IVERSON IS A PROVEN LEADER PLAYER AND LED THE 76ERS TO THE FINALS. ONE MIGHT QUESTION A.I BC OF HIS PLAYING TIME WITH DENVER BUT IT WAS A DIFFICULT POSITION PLAYING WITH CARMELLO (ANOTHER BALL DEMANDER)..THE MOVE TO DETROIT PISTONS SHOULDVE NEVER HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALL AND ALL HE IS AVAILABLE AND WITH THAT BEING SAID THE HAWKS WOULDNTHAVE TO GIVE UP ANY OF THE PLAYERS. AND WITH THE 19TH PICK THEY CAN JUST FOCUS ON A CENTER THAT THEY CAN BUILD WITH FOR THE FUTURE AHEM..B.J MULLENS/DEJUAN BLAIR? </p>
<p>09-10 SEASON STARTING 5:IVERSON,JOHNSON,WILLIAMS,SMITH,HORFORD</p>
<p>09-2010 BENCH:LAW,EVANS,MURRAY,PACHULIA,BLAIR (FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK)</p>
<p>RESERVES:JONES,WEST,HUNTER,GARDNER</p>
<p>ALLEN IVERSON/ACIE LAW OR RAFER ALSTON/ACIE LAW</p>
<p>P.S THE TEAM NEEDS RENOVATION NOT TOTAL DESTRUCTION&#8230;2010 EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAWKS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chico27</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chico27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a big Hawks fan for a while now. i&#039;m not a season ticket holder, but have spent big money attending game after game for the past few seasons. If Atlanta lets Bibby go for Alston, i will not only stop going to the games but will no longer be a Hawks fan. Making Jeff&#039;s suggested trade would only mean that the Hawks, as an organization, are satisfied with a mediocre team that might barely make it to the playoffs. Obviously Bibby is not worth $15 mil to the Hawks or any other team. Due to the economic situation, and the demand that there is going to be out there for him, he will definitely be forced to take a major pay cut next season. I say if the team can keep him for $10 mil or less, they should commit to him for 3 more seasons. Bibby has proven to be valuable to the team and this is not the time to gamble with a trade like this since we all know Alston is not know for his consistency (Hence the fact that he has played for 6 different teams in 9 seasons). I would love to see Bibby along with Flip, and Marvin stay for next season. Keep the core group and bring in a big man like Glen Davis, Wallace, Bosh, or Stoudemire....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a big Hawks fan for a while now. i&#8217;m not a season ticket holder, but have spent big money attending game after game for the past few seasons. If Atlanta lets Bibby go for Alston, i will not only stop going to the games but will no longer be a Hawks fan. Making Jeff&#8217;s suggested trade would only mean that the Hawks, as an organization, are satisfied with a mediocre team that might barely make it to the playoffs. Obviously Bibby is not worth $15 mil to the Hawks or any other team. Due to the economic situation, and the demand that there is going to be out there for him, he will definitely be forced to take a major pay cut next season. I say if the team can keep him for $10 mil or less, they should commit to him for 3 more seasons. Bibby has proven to be valuable to the team and this is not the time to gamble with a trade like this since we all know Alston is not know for his consistency (Hence the fact that he has played for 6 different teams in 9 seasons). I would love to see Bibby along with Flip, and Marvin stay for next season. Keep the core group and bring in a big man like Glen Davis, Wallace, Bosh, or Stoudemire&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jj is a ball hog. why is he doubled &amp; trippled teamed? it is because he slowly dribbles into the paint &amp; then often turns the ball over or passes it outside with 3 seconds on the clock. great players go quickly to the hole or passes quickly to open men under the basket. the
reason we have no ball movement is that jj always is dribbling the clock away. barkley &amp; walton has said this, the hawks have a flawed offence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jj is a ball hog. why is he doubled &amp; trippled teamed? it is because he slowly dribbles into the paint &amp; then often turns the ball over or passes it outside with 3 seconds on the clock. great players go quickly to the hole or passes quickly to open men under the basket. the<br />
reason we have no ball movement is that jj always is dribbling the clock away. barkley &amp; walton has said this, the hawks have a flawed offence.</p>
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		<title>By: truth serum</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth serum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i sure sound like samuel does</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i sure sound like samuel does</p>
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		<title>By: Wabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you wanna bring in another veteran PG to replace Bibby with, ANDRE MILLER. That&#039;s honestly the only veteran PG that I think most would be satisfied with...

He can create his own shot, he&#039;s bigger than Bibby so he can cause matchup problems for smaller gaurds, and he&#039;s a decent mid-range shooter.

I wouldn&#039;t consider Alston an UPGRADE over Bibby. 
But Miller could be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you wanna bring in another veteran PG to replace Bibby with, ANDRE MILLER. That&#8217;s honestly the only veteran PG that I think most would be satisfied with&#8230;</p>
<p>He can create his own shot, he&#8217;s bigger than Bibby so he can cause matchup problems for smaller gaurds, and he&#8217;s a decent mid-range shooter.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider Alston an UPGRADE over Bibby.<br />
But Miller could be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean any disrespect by this, but honestly, Mr. Schultz, I honestly think you have NO CLUE what you&#039;re talking about when it comes to the Hawks...

I&#039;m not saying my ideas are any better, and I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m a basketball guru/genius, but this idea you&#039;re selling is a TERRIBLE solution to our PG woes. One, we need to get younger. Two, we need a PG who can play within Woody&#039;s system. Three, you guys have been bashing the Hawks shooting abilities all season and now you wanna replace one of our better shooters - who is also 2 years younger - for an inconsistent shooter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean any disrespect by this, but honestly, Mr. Schultz, I honestly think you have NO CLUE what you&#8217;re talking about when it comes to the Hawks&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying my ideas are any better, and I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m a basketball guru/genius, but this idea you&#8217;re selling is a TERRIBLE solution to our PG woes. One, we need to get younger. Two, we need a PG who can play within Woody&#8217;s system. Three, you guys have been bashing the Hawks shooting abilities all season and now you wanna replace one of our better shooters &#8211; who is also 2 years younger &#8211; for an inconsistent shooter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth Serum, 


Gee, I wonder why you would say that. Oh, probably because you&#039;re the clown that posts as me (or just a similar type of person, doesn&#039;t matter which). Too bad you can&#039;t live up to your own surname. Your posts might be worth something then....



Jeff, 


It&#039;s not that I think Alston is a head case. But I don&#039;t see him getting along with Woody so well. Veterans who know what they&#039;re doing don&#039;t seem to think too much of him. Well, JJ does, but we all know why. Two key examples are Anthony Johnson and Mike Bibby. Johnson actually walked out on Woody, and practice, once. Say what you want about Josh and his dust-ups with Woody, but he never once walked out. And then there&#039;s Bibby. He talks back to Woody all the time, including the infamous incident where he put things in perspective: Woody got lippy about Bibby passing the ball to Josh for a perimeter shot, and Josh taking it. Bibby said, (and I paraphrase), &quot;Hey, you run the play that way. He was open. I passed the ball. What was I supposed to do? If you don&#039;t want him taking that shot, then you move him from that spot in the play. You do it.&quot; 

Case closed. If Alston can &quot;get into it&quot; with Van Gundy, imagine him and Woodson. That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying. That, and Alston is more of a &quot;get it to the other guys&quot; kinda point guard than Bibby is. Will that work for Woody? 

I only say this because Woody may not have been extended, but he&#039;s the coach until they fire him. Gotta make the best of the way things are. 

And again, Alston is 32 (as in, older than Bibby), and we&#039;re not a title contender by any stretch of even the most koolaid-permeated imaginations. Will Alston come to a team that&#039;s not ready to contend for anything other than a second round playoff series?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth Serum, </p>
<p>Gee, I wonder why you would say that. Oh, probably because you&#8217;re the clown that posts as me (or just a similar type of person, doesn&#8217;t matter which). Too bad you can&#8217;t live up to your own surname. Your posts might be worth something then&#8230;.</p>
<p>Jeff, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I think Alston is a head case. But I don&#8217;t see him getting along with Woody so well. Veterans who know what they&#8217;re doing don&#8217;t seem to think too much of him. Well, JJ does, but we all know why. Two key examples are Anthony Johnson and Mike Bibby. Johnson actually walked out on Woody, and practice, once. Say what you want about Josh and his dust-ups with Woody, but he never once walked out. And then there&#8217;s Bibby. He talks back to Woody all the time, including the infamous incident where he put things in perspective: Woody got lippy about Bibby passing the ball to Josh for a perimeter shot, and Josh taking it. Bibby said, (and I paraphrase), &#8220;Hey, you run the play that way. He was open. I passed the ball. What was I supposed to do? If you don&#8217;t want him taking that shot, then you move him from that spot in the play. You do it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Case closed. If Alston can &#8220;get into it&#8221; with Van Gundy, imagine him and Woodson. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying. That, and Alston is more of a &#8220;get it to the other guys&#8221; kinda point guard than Bibby is. Will that work for Woody? </p>
<p>I only say this because Woody may not have been extended, but he&#8217;s the coach until they fire him. Gotta make the best of the way things are. </p>
<p>And again, Alston is 32 (as in, older than Bibby), and we&#8217;re not a title contender by any stretch of even the most koolaid-permeated imaginations. Will Alston come to a team that&#8217;s not ready to contend for anything other than a second round playoff series?</p>
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		<title>By: Coaching Change</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coaching Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alston, Bibby, what difference does it make as long as Woodson is the coach?  He is the worst coach in the league, hands down, and the sad fact of the matter is that none of you people will face up to it.  That includes you Schultz.  He took the second most talented team in the East and coached them to a whopping 47 wins...IN THE EAST.  With Woodson at the helm, this team would&#039;ve won 35 games in the Western Conference.  Think about that.  Look at how badly Woodson got out coached in the playoffs.  It was down right embarrassing.  At some point someone in ownership needs to grow some huevos and kick Woodson&#039;s arse to the curb.  Until that&#039;s done, this team will languish, regardless of who is at point guard, or forward or center for that matter.  It&#039;s a recipe for disaster when a team puts political correctness above sound decision making and winning.  You people are going to get exactly what you deserve next year....another mediocre season, and early playoff exit.  Nice job, Hawks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alston, Bibby, what difference does it make as long as Woodson is the coach?  He is the worst coach in the league, hands down, and the sad fact of the matter is that none of you people will face up to it.  That includes you Schultz.  He took the second most talented team in the East and coached them to a whopping 47 wins&#8230;IN THE EAST.  With Woodson at the helm, this team would&#8217;ve won 35 games in the Western Conference.  Think about that.  Look at how badly Woodson got out coached in the playoffs.  It was down right embarrassing.  At some point someone in ownership needs to grow some huevos and kick Woodson&#8217;s arse to the curb.  Until that&#8217;s done, this team will languish, regardless of who is at point guard, or forward or center for that matter.  It&#8217;s a recipe for disaster when a team puts political correctness above sound decision making and winning.  You people are going to get exactly what you deserve next year&#8230;.another mediocre season, and early playoff exit.  Nice job, Hawks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers me the most about Rick Sund&#039;s draft/free agent signings is that he takes too many risks on project players. I wish people would stop hating on Josh Smith and the limitations of his game (He may make his share of mistakes but, at least he will rebound and play solid defense) because this kid is still very young and, has time to become one of the best two-way players in the NBA. If anyone deserves your scorn it should be Joe Johnson (yes I said it!) because Joe has the ability to become a great scorer but, disappears at times during games (the playoffs were a prime example). Sund should package three of our lesser players expiring contracts to either use our draft pick to move up into the top ten or make a deal for a young post player (or guard) and use our pick to draft a point guard (Lawson or Maynor are my choices).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me the most about Rick Sund&#8217;s draft/free agent signings is that he takes too many risks on project players. I wish people would stop hating on Josh Smith and the limitations of his game (He may make his share of mistakes but, at least he will rebound and play solid defense) because this kid is still very young and, has time to become one of the best two-way players in the NBA. If anyone deserves your scorn it should be Joe Johnson (yes I said it!) because Joe has the ability to become a great scorer but, disappears at times during games (the playoffs were a prime example). Sund should package three of our lesser players expiring contracts to either use our draft pick to move up into the top ten or make a deal for a young post player (or guard) and use our pick to draft a point guard (Lawson or Maynor are my choices).</p>
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