Braves have gone from the standard to a sideshow

That's Frank Wren on the left, and the skeleton remains of Tom Glavine and John Smoltz hanging on the right. (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com.)

For as much fun as it was to poke fun at the pomposity exuded by John Schuerholz throughout the 1990s — particularly every time he referred to the Braves as a “great, grand organization” — the dapper general manager generally was on point.

The Braves were great. And they were grand. And they were organized.

I’m not sure what’s happened over the last several months. But great and grand have morphed into insignificant and infamous. This is your disorganization now. The Braves aren’t the standard. They’re a sideshow.

They tell Tom Glavine to rehab. But they don’t tell him that they’ve kind of changed their mind about bringing him back.

They tell the public it’s not about the $1 million roster guarantee. But we’ve seen too much evidence to the contrary — declining revenues, declining payroll, the John Smoltz decision — and understand it is about the guaranteed money.

Is it just me, or does Chipper Jones look like he's not buying what John Schuerholz is selling? (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com)

Is it just me, or does Chipper Jones look like he's not buying what John Schuerholz is selling? (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com)

They claim their reason for Glavine being dropkicked is performance based. But that’s so unbelievably illogical because the man never was given a chance to perform, unless you count his rehab starts in the minors, where, by the way, he had thrown 11 straight shutout innings.

I’m sorry. Was 12 the cutoff?

Braves executive Terry McGuirk, who emerges any time there’s a fire, was asked the obvious question: Why not allow Glavine to pitch even one game and re-evaluate him then? Did the veteran pitcher not deserve that opportunity after months of rehab?

McGuirk’s answer to our David O’Brien: “We’re sort of at the point where every win counts.”

If you looked up disingenuous, you would find Terry McGuirk’s picture.

I’m not disputing that every win counts. But organizations make decisions every day with an eye on tomorrow. Example: The Braves called up Kris Medlen from Gwinnett instead of Tommy Hanson last month because it figured Medlen eventually would be sent back down, and they didn’t want Hanson on a yo-yo. There was never a thought that Medlen was better than Hanson or gave the Braves a better chance to win.

And by the way, how could anybody be certain that Glavine’s arm would fall off in his first start and Hanson will debut with a six-hit shutout . . . and that would be the difference in this year’s pennant race?

I didn’t think anything could top Frank Wren’s mishandling of Smoltz. Then came this latest dumping on a franchise legend.

One reader put it best. “I heard he [Wren] wants to sign Dale Murphy just so he can release him,” wrote Antonio Gramsci.

It has been that kind of year for Wren. This follows a winter of failures, fizzles and soap operas.

Pick your headache. Jake Peavy. A.J. Burnett. Rafael Furcal. Ken Griffey, Jr. A $23 million contract for Kenshin Kawakami (File that one under, “Every game counts.”)

I’ll just say this: Wren had better be right about a lot of things. If the Braves turn back into winners, it justifies a lot (though not everything).

Tom Glavine said he felt blindsided and betrayed by the Braves. Pretty sure we never heard those words in the 1990s (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com.)

Tom Glavine said he felt blindsided and betrayed. Pretty sure we never heard those words in the 1990s (Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com.)

But right now this franchise is in the process of undoing a lot of the goodwill it built up in the 1990s. It has lost cache and class. It makes strange decisions, miscalculates the backlash, and then scrambles to explain itself.

Does this sound like the Braves of 14 straight division titles, five pennants and a World Series?

Schuerholz actually made a public apology Friday about the way Glavine’s release was handled. This came a day after he said: “That was a big organizational moment. It was appropriate and respectful of Tom that we were all there.”

I’m not sure what would be worse: 1) That Schuerholz was just spinning to take some of the heat off Wren; or, 2) That for as long as he, Wren and McGuirk thought about this decision and calculated its delivery, they now admit they just botched it.

Talk about losing a foot off your fastball.

Maybe Tom Glavine pitches again. Maybe not.

Maybe John Smoltz pitches again. Maybe not.

Either way, it doesn’t excuse the way either was handled. It doesn’t excuse a lot of what this organization has become.

It’s hard to say which franchise is now the standard in major league baseball. It’s not hard to determine which isn’t.

280 comments Add your comment

Chuck

June 6th, 2009
3:00 pm

Talk about a sideshow. Well, it takes one to know one.

130on2

June 6th, 2009
3:01 pm

Absolutely!! Absolutely!!Absolutely!!!

130on2

June 6th, 2009
3:02 pm

My comment was for Jeff, not Chuck.

Jeff Schultz

June 6th, 2009
3:13 pm

Ooh, Chuck. That hurts. What was your second choice? “I am rubber, you are glue . . .”?

TRobb1

June 6th, 2009
3:19 pm

Well, that was some drive-by.

I don’t agree with the content nor the tone of this column. To the contrary, I think the Braves are still a great and grand organization. They are no longer among the least financially constrained, as they were in the last decade. When you have good management and money to spend, that’s how you get to be the 1990s Braves. The early 2000s Braves were on borrowed time, ’cause it’s harder to make it work without Big Money.

I think they’re now an outfield bat away from being the best team in baseball. What do you think of that? And I think Frank Wren is a big reason for that. He ain’t a great PR guy, but he’s an aggressive, shrewd GM. Not real sentimental, makes the tough calls.

It’s a shame Smoltz is a loudmouthed mercenary and Glavine doesn’t know it’s time to go, but Wren made the right decisions and offers with both guys. Schuerholz will have to be his PR guy.

Justafan

June 6th, 2009
3:22 pm

Glavine has made over $289 million from the Braves. What the hell has he got to cry about? Thanks Mr. Wren. Now get Bobby Cox and TP. Go Braves!

Love you Jeff but its time to move on. Time don’t stand still for anyone.

Jeff Schultz

June 6th, 2009
3:26 pm

TRobb– No drive-by. I’m parked and in full view.

mike

June 6th, 2009
3:34 pm

Let’s be honest: It’s good the aging stars are gone, but their departures were handled poorly.

But now, we’re not “one outfield bat away”. And I don’t think McClouth is the huge spark we needed. I’m a fan, but we’re a very mediocre team with 2 or 3 bright spots.

Larvell Blanks

June 6th, 2009
3:37 pm

So when Glavine doesn’t get picked up by any other team or he bombs will you come back and acknowledge the Braves were right to let him go ?

Chief Nock A Homa

June 6th, 2009
3:40 pm

Jeff,

The Glavine thing could have been handled better, but… When you are building an organization, or in this case, re-building an organization, there are many tough calls that a portion of the people aren’t going to understand, or even be mad about… This is one of those cases… The moves he has made give the Braves the best opportunity to win now, and that’s the bottom line…

I can see it now… And, you’ve already even given a premonition of it by saying these moves better work out…. In a couple of months, if these moves do pan out, you’re column will be all about how tough it was, but what a great place to be now, praising him for making the tough moves….

Am I right????1

Bill

June 6th, 2009
3:42 pm

spot on perspective

Harry Doyle

June 6th, 2009
3:42 pm

Glavine left us for the Mets, enough said.

wawel78

June 6th, 2009
3:45 pm

I am a braves fan. I love what Smoltz and Glavine did for the franchise but their time passed. I want this team to win now if possible. I’m not sure what you expected Wren to do. Boston has the means to to pay Smoltz more money. He left – for more money. Glavine left the franchise in the earlier part of the decade – for more money. I want to win, and I agree with McGuirk (whether he was sincere or not is another topic ) that every win for this team counts.

You are delusional if you think pitching Glavine one game (take your pick on how many) is a better decision than Hanson. Hanson immediately makes this team better. Glavine would’ve been a long-shot hopeful in the 5 hole. You can have your nostalgia. I’ll take a Frank Wren that’s trying to make this ball team better and get to the playoffs.

Good article btw, even though I disagree. I love reading about my team!

Tommy Wildfire Rich

June 6th, 2009
3:46 pm

Sugarbear Blanks,
The answer is no. Seldom do bloggers admit they’re wrong. They just change screennames and start over.

sirmonator

June 6th, 2009
3:47 pm

Jeff,
This is about the dumbest article I think I have ever read on the AJC blogs..Do you not realize that this a business? I think Smoltz and Glavine do..because they have taken more money elsewhere in the recent past..You’re right though, as in J. Smoltz case, the Braves really did undercut him by not offering him 5 million in guaranteed money for a 42 year old coming off surgery..GIVE ME A BREAK!! I wish I could live in the fantasy world that you do, so maybe my employer will owe me for the rest of my life for the last decade i’ve put in!!

BosnianBaller

June 6th, 2009
3:48 pm

Braves are in the right track right now.We need more bats.Yunell and Kelly need to go ASAP.

Clint Ellison

June 6th, 2009
3:48 pm

I’ll keep this short, Jeff, because you obviously don’t know any more about baseball than you do about writing a column. Glavine has been over the hill for several years. He—and Smoltz—are adults (at least in chronological age), and know that baseball is a business. Major league pitchers do not get major league batters out with 24 MPH fastballs. It’s over. For the Braves to keep the guy on one more game would be intellectually dishonest.

DirtyDawg

June 6th, 2009
3:48 pm

Schultz you jock sniffer…or is it rubber and glue sniffer…why do you take the player’s side on everything? So they won’t dump a bucket of water on your head in the locker room? The Braves have a business to run. When Glavine came forward and said he’d be willing to try and come back – or that he really wanted to try, or whatever was said – the Braves didn’t know quite what to expect from their starting pitching. Now that they know that they’ve got at least half a dozen here and in the minors better than Tom Glavine has shown in his rehab, everything has changed. What’s the matter do you think they should have asked ‘mother may I’ before they told him that they wouldn’t be handing over another million not to pitch – to go along with the other nine they had already given him since he bolted to the Mets?

Tom’s trouble is that he thought he’d landed another three or four mil, only to find out that the gravy-train doesn’t have any more seats left.

TRobb1

June 6th, 2009
3:49 pm

I don’t agree, Mike. I think we were underachieving a little bit at .500 before the moves were made. Now I think we’re very good-to-excellent five-deep in the rotation, the bullpen, which was very good, is now strengthened with Medlen (and Carlyle’s diagnosis, which was lost in all the fireworks), the catching is excellent, the infield is very good offensively and defensively – with amazing depth, and we have an excellent fourth outfielder and a plus CF. If you replaced Anderson or Francoeur, and my preference is for Francoeur, we’re a clear World Series contender.

I think this because I believe our starting rotation is unique in its quality and depth. I think our 2-5 is the best in the majors (care to show me a better one?).

Our offense may have critical mass now, and it certainly would if you subbed Matt Holliday in for Jeff Francoeur.

Jeff, the reference was to your relative freedom to write in all areas, as opposed to a beat writer. Although I enjoy your stuff, I think you’re not as knowledgeable about the club as, say, DOB. So maybe you have a national ESPN gig in your future. ;)

I’m only half-kidding. It’s a lot easier to see a team round a corner and react to it than to see it coming (who saw the Braves coming in ‘91? The Falcons last year?). If they rip off about a 39-15 streak, I won’t be surprised, but Buster Olney and Tim Kurkjian (and Jeff Schultz, apparently) will.

Rick

June 6th, 2009
3:53 pm

I feel really sad that my Braves may be a “sideshow”. I don’t want to believe it but what else could their actions be categorized over the last several months? And is it coincidence that it happens with the tenure of Mr. Frank Wren? Is it all his doing or has John grown weary of managing the operations of the ballclub? I think it all goes back to John’s declaration a few years ago about the economics of the game “stinks”. Did he become jaded with not having the “open pockets” that Ted Turner once gave him? Or is it that John has lost his drive to maintain his high standard? Whatever it is, The Braves have done big damage to their image and now we are beginning to see the empire we once enjoyed crumble at its very foundation…..

Clemson23

June 6th, 2009
3:53 pm

Jeff.. What i am trying to understand is YES Glavine and Smoltz both have done wonders for our franchise, but there is a point where you have to look forward and not back.. I am so tired of everyone saying the Braves should of done more for these players.. Its all about EGO.. They were paid MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars over the years when they were playing and even when they were hurt and didn’t play.. So please ENOUGH of this pity fest for these players.. They are icons of the franchise yes, but they are not going to help us win a world series in the future.. and that is what not only matters to the fans, but that is what is fair to the players on the team.. To say having Hanson in the rotation instead of Glavine isn’t a big deal is extremely immature.. Hanson is a stud pitcher with electric stuff.. You have to look at what is going to help the Braves win now!!.. Glavine is in his 40s for god sakes..

I Didn’t know a city could kiss the butt of so many players for so long… YES they have done a ton for these franchises in the past.. We should remember them for that, and honor them for that.. Not try and stretch out their careers just for the sake of keeping them in a Braves uniform!.. Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux we love you.. But your time was over… Glavine would not of been anything better then Mediocrity.. that has been shown in his past 5 years.. Hanson has the chance to be the ace of a staff at any time..

SO STOP ATTACKING OUR CITIES TEAMS and ENJOY THE PLAYERS WE HAVE!! AJC Finds one thing to attack one of our Franchises and jumps on it

AND I THOUGHT TERRANCE MOORE WAS GONE>>>>> MY MISTAKE :/

TM

June 6th, 2009
3:55 pm

i think you are right on Jeff.

Please investigate who called Tom Glavine Wednesday morning to “tip him off” as to what was going on… Someone had the thought of common sense that what they were doing was classless.

I think it goes even further than the way they’ve handled these two situations. The Braves management has been lying to it’s fans for years when it comes to resigning/trading it’s players.

CharlieAlphaBravo

June 6th, 2009
3:58 pm

Wren did the right thing. As much as I like Glavine, he simply was not one of the best five starters on our roster. It would be unfair for him to get the spot over Hanson.

Everyone speculates that either Glavine would get lit up, or he’ll be the Glavine of old, but the reality is probably somewhere in between these two extremes. What about this hypothetical… Glavine makes the start Saturday, and gives up three or four runs. He continues to make his starts every week until the end of the season, and he finishes with an ERA somewhere in the 4.00 to 5.00 range. Wren’s hands are tied because he can’t release a future Hall of Famer who keeps putting up tolerable numbers, and our durable pitching staff keeps Hanson in the minors for the duration of the season. We lose the wild card or division by two games, and the Blogonistas call for Wren’s head on a platter.

Every move Wren has made during his tenure as GM has appeared to be motivated by winning. We should appriciate this and be glad that we’re not stuck with some Moneyball guy just trying to dump payroll every year.

Tommy has always made a clear distinction between loyalty and business, and that line has now become painfully clear. It’s a shame that he had to go through surgery and rehab only to get the axe, but he made a cool million to do it. If they want to pay me hansomely for a little surgery and rehab, then sign me up! I might even consider selling him my whole arm for a million bucks. I don’t really need my left one anyway.

JWW

June 6th, 2009
3:58 pm

I have to agree with the deception by Braves managaement, but not the “sideshow” supposition. In today’s spotlight world, “sideshow” would more aptly describe Octo-mom, Hawks ownership, the U.S. Congress, and obviously the ‘06 and ‘07 Falcons.

What makes this story despicable is the one million dollars. To put it in financial terms, if Kawakami was making one million dollars this year, we would be watching Tom Glavine pitch right now and the Japanese icon would be pitching on double beer night in Gwinnett.

In a more sane world, Glavine and Smoltz would have retired gracefully and sailed into immortality, being toasted in endless interviews and showered with gifts from coast to coast on their way to the Hall of Fame. But alas, no. Instead, as is usual for the modern aging athlete, they went for one more payday.

Volman

June 6th, 2009
3:59 pm

Terrible article.

JD

June 6th, 2009
4:00 pm

Wow, Jeff…this is the first time I’ve disagreed with you this much. 2008 showed us that injuries to starting pitching can destroy a team (3 of our 5 opening day starters were lost for the season, and one of the remaining 2 was Mike Hampton). Glavine was signed as insurance. But it was insurance it turns out we don’t need. Wren didn’t know he wouldn’t need Glavine when he signed him. Wren didn’t know he wouldn’t need Glavine when he started rehab a month ago.

But when you have to choose between getting a future superstar in the rotation to get some experience and paying at least $1 million to give a 43 year old one last hurrah (his ERA since 2007 is somewhere around 4.70 btw), any smart GM or manager would pick the former. I’m sorry it had to end like this for Glavine, but it’s baseball, not Barney. You want to give your team the best shot at winning while making financial sense, not make everybody feel good about themselves.

TDawgATL

June 6th, 2009
4:02 pm

Great article Jeff! You are right on with this one. Still a Braves fan here, but a little embarrassed. I wish only the best to Mr. Glavine and hope the Braves can find a way to start winning again. Now how about a big thanks to Tommy for the 200+ wins he brought to the Braves over his remarkable career.

TM

June 6th, 2009
4:03 pm

For everyone bashing Jeff about not resigning Glavine…

You’re missing the boat. It’s not about the money the Braves have paid either Smoltz or Glavine over the years. It’s about the respect in the way you treat them when making a tough decision parting ways. We are talking about exceptional employee’s of an organization.

If they are willing to treat the elite of their players in this manor, how do they treat the average players or employee’s?

I am embarrassed and ashamed of the Braves management actions over the last several years… And I know I’m not alone.

Matt

June 6th, 2009
4:06 pm

Jeff, got to love your articles. You do exactly what a good writer should, get people talking. I agree with you 100%, the Braves have become a side show and it shows in the way of the failed off season moves, Furcal, AJ, Peavy and JR. Who would want to play with this loser. He cannot get a team on the field and is still behind a Frenchy, any other team, he was gone 10 games ago. Keep it up and see what you can do about the AJC. It is becoming a second rate rag.

Reid Adair

June 6th, 2009
4:06 pm

Great post, Jeff.

Let’s not forget that Frank Wren lied to everyone when he said the Braves’ offer to John Smoltz was close to Boston’s offer; it wasn’t in the same time zone.

Say what you want about the days with John Schuerholz as general manager. The organization was ORGANIZED and conducted itself with much more class than it is doing now. With the exception of Schuerholz’s apology yesterday, there hasn’t been much showing of class at all.

Thanks also for reminding everyone of the details with the circus that was off-season free agency under Frank Wren’s leadership.

And will someone tell Terry McGuirk that if Tom Glavine had started last night, he would have suffered the same fate that Jair Jurrjens did since this poor offense has no semblance of consistency.

Myron McBride

June 6th, 2009
4:07 pm

I grew up watching the Braves in the 80’s. For those around for that you know that the Braves organization today looks more like that bunch than the Sparkling team of America in the 90’s. Bobby Cox, you’ve had a good run. You and Chipper are about all we have left. (Throw in Joe Simpson & Don Sutton, they have been a good part of the organization for a while). You guys had better move on now before you too are treatly so crassly. Smoltzie, Glavine, Murphy, the list goes on of the guys by whom we as Braves fans did just fine… We as fans say what the organization should have said. “THANK YOU”

Jeff Schultz

June 6th, 2009
4:07 pm

Justafan: Everybody’s got an opinion, but I’m not sure what Glavine making $289 million (to use your figure) has to do with anything.

Larvell Blanks: No. Because that still wouldn’t explain why they didn’t give him one start. Or not tell him weeks ago their plan. Those are the points of contention.

Chief: Not disputing the tough calls. Disputing the handling, the process, etc.

Bill: thanks.

Harry: Get over it.

Clint: Is it four balls for a walk and three strikes for a strikeout or the other way around. That always confuses me.

Clemson23: Everybody keeps talking about the past, the past, the past. This column isn’t based on what Glavine did in the past. And you’re right, Hanson does have a chance to be the ace of the staff. But that’s not going to change, whether you see if Glavine can pitch or not.

TM: thanx. I didn’t tip off Glavine. But I’m assuming when he was told to come to the office in the day time and not for the game, that was a strong enough hint.

Will

June 6th, 2009
4:07 pm

This is just a fantastic article and its right on point. Every homer moron that posts on DOB blog should be force fed this article. It is great to see that somebody actually gets it (and writes it) how terrible of a job this franchise has done the last few years.

TPM

June 6th, 2009
4:07 pm

Jeff Schultz – How was Smoltz mishandled? Was it because Frank Wren did not offer him 5 million bucks? The fact of the matter is John Smoltz has not pitched in the major leagues this year. AAA Pawtucket and A Augusta does not count

Phinfan4ever

June 6th, 2009
4:08 pm

Let’s be honest Jeff. The Braves are performing at a much higher level than you are and their future looks even brighter. Too bad for an aging writer ’s misconceptions. You are a very sad and negative man.

Justin

June 6th, 2009
4:10 pm

Schultz, you’re an idiot. Glavine was signed to pitch in April, not June. The reason Smoltz wasn’t re-signed was because we needed pitching in April, not June. I know you old guys love what people like Smolts and Glavine and Jamie Moyer have done after 40, but sometimes you gotta cut a man loose. I’d rather let a guy go a year too early than a year too late. Oh by the way, the money we saved on Smoltz is actually looking good. Lowe has been the staff ace and KK is coming around, as well as Anderson. Maybe before you through rocks at Frank Wren you should take a moment and look at what JS left him with. More proof the AJC will hire any monkey with a pen and call him or her a journalist.

Reid Adair

June 6th, 2009
4:10 pm

On a separate note, I am surprised – by the comments here and on other posts at the AJC site related to this – by the number of people who are adamant that giving Tom Glavine even one start at the Major League level.

This team is 26-27 (going into Saturday). Kris Medlen was rocked in his debut. Even when they get strong pitching performances, they have had far too many games like last night (TWO HITS against Milwaukee).

One start for Glavine was not going to ruin this season. At least, not anymore than this offense will ruin between now and September.

No More Bobby

June 6th, 2009
4:11 pm

I dont even have to read all of this to say I agree. Most of these rednecks wont face facts and admit the Braves are not what they used to be (team and front office). These losers kill me how they get excited over the Phils losing last night. Counting on other teams to lose is not going to replace our suck manager and mediocre team. Thanks for writing a straight up article. Nice to know someone at the AJC still has some balls.

No More Bobby

June 6th, 2009
4:16 pm

It has lost cache and class.

That is the truest thing any AJC writer has posted in three years.

Jeff Schultz

June 6th, 2009
4:16 pm

JD: “But when you have to choose between getting a future superstar in the rotation to get some experience and paying at least $1 million to give a 43 year old one last hurrah ….” So what you’re saying is, it is about the money, right?

TDAWGATL: Thanks.

TM: Although the comments so far here tilt to the negative, I think the fan base is fairly split on this one. At least, that’s been my sense. Nationally I think the perception is more negative (toward the Braves).

MATT: Thanks.

REID: Thanks. McGuirk was way on the Smoltz figures he used publicly, also.

WILL: Thanks.

PHINFAN4EVER: I don’t know about that. The Braves are one game under .500. I’d like to think I’m over .500. I think I’ve got a shot at the playoffs.

Mets Suck

June 6th, 2009
4:18 pm

Who cares, it business!!! I believe “it’s business” was the same words Glavine used a few years ago. Trobb1 you are 100% correct. Go Braves!

Sam Everyman, Citizen Journalist

June 6th, 2009
4:18 pm

Whoa! “Great and Grand” can get away. No doubt about that. Seems like great and grand may have gotten away from both the Braves and the AJC. Lots of parallels there. Substitue “AJC” for “Braves” in the above text and see if you agree. Go ahead, try it.

And how about that last sentence? “It’s hard to say which franchise is now the standard in major league baseball. It’s not hard to determine which isn’t.”

Try it like this: “It’s hard to say which newspaper organization is now the standard in the south. It’s not hard to determine which isn’t.”

Sam Everyman, here. Citizen Journalist. Covering Dixie like the pollen.

Jeff

June 6th, 2009
4:20 pm

Until the ownership of the team is more stable there will continue to be situations like this… Watch out Chipper and Hudson.

bravesgirlnc

June 6th, 2009
4:21 pm

Great article. Great points. Regardless of whether it was Hanson’s time or not, this was NOT the way to handle either Smoltz or Glavine. I think Wren’s ego is just larger than the South and that is why you see all of this bumbling. (See his handling of Ripkin in Baltimore)

derick

June 6th, 2009
4:21 pm

For years this organization was built on winning, class, and respect. That is why players came here over the years to play.That is why players took less to play here when they were winning. Somehow with this new management change with John moving upstairs, there has been a lot less proffesionalism and respect coming from Mr. Wren’s. Either he doesn’t know or he is so stuck on himself that he ignore the people and advice(years of expertise) around him. Something is amiss around this franchise besides winning and losing, it falls directly in the lap of Mr. Wrens.
You can accept losing when you don’t have the talent to compete, but when the front office office mucks it ups as much as the players. It reminds you of the jokes of the 70’s and early 80’s. The front office was a joke as well as the players. There are too many years of expertise in the front office to keep having this many misques from the front office. It was not about Tommy pitching. We all know he will never return to his past form, but as an organization. How do you treat your players and the fans.

woodie

June 6th, 2009
4:25 pm

Look at the difference between Maddox retiring with dignity but Smoltz and Glavine are still trying to milk millions from the whatever ballclub is willing to fork out the cash. Guys, go and enjoy your money and your families. You’ve earned it.

Beach Dawg

June 6th, 2009
4:26 pm

So if Glavine is so sure about his ability to pitch in the bigs why didn’t he offer to forego the $1m until after 2-3 wins or retire if he did not reach that level in 30 days or so. Not sure how the Braves could have let him down easy if he did not want to cooperate. Sure the Braves could have spent several mil on him and Smoltz and not been any better off but they would have “felt better” — it’s about winning and tough decisions are not always “feel good” decisions. This is the big leagues not little league where we worry about little Tommy feeling like a loser and having to carry that for life!!! Give me a break!!!!!!!

Sam Everyman, Citizen Journalist

June 6th, 2009
4:26 pm

Now I’m feeling sad. Sorry, Jeff. Like Mrs. Cleaver was fond of saying, “Ward, don’t be so hard on the Beaver.”

Jeff Schultz

June 6th, 2009
4:27 pm

JWW: Is there a double-beer night in Gwinnett? Because if so, I’m there.

Sam Everyman: You have a very nice touch. Go start a newspaper. The climate is right.

Derick: Excellent post.

Roswell Ed

June 6th, 2009
4:28 pm

John S apologized. Shouldn’t we forgive that mistake?

Glavine and Smoltz, two of my all time favorites, love to talk this loyalty clap trap but drop two more dollars on the table and they leave you quicker than one of Jennifer Anniston’s boyfriends will leave her.

Waaa Waaa Waa. I don’t like the way we split after they had paid me $50 million over my career.

Hey when does Tommy pitch? Hanson that is!!

Good luck Glavine!!

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