Vick may not be ready for what awaits him

 

Michael Vick looked grim when he began his prison sentence in November of 2007, and he may look similar when he gets out. (AP photo.)

Michael Vick looked grim when he began his prison sentence in November of 2007. Given circumstances, he may not look much better when he gets out. (AP photo.)

Sometime in the next few days, Michael Vick will step outside of prison walls and straight into hell.

He will have supporters. That’s fine. The man has paid his debt to society, slept on a cot in Leavenworth for several months and took a bigger hit to his status, his reputation and his income than possibly any athlete in history.

He will have detractors. That’s also fine. Because for as much as Vick has every right to resume his football career, you have every right not to like it. It’s why so many NFL executives are sitting alone in the dark today, weighing that risk-reward thing.

But Vick’s ability to return to football will be based on something far more impactful than the strength of his legs or arm. A New York Times story this week included a common but equally bizarre assumption: “Vick may still be better than half the quarterbacks on NFL rosters.”

If this were all about skill, Vick never would have been in jail to begin with.

This isn’t 2001, when he was embraced by a punch-drunk franchise in a lampooned sports city. This isn’t 2004 when he brought the Falcons to within a victory of the Super Bowl and was given a $130 million contract.

In 2009, Michael Vick is not a hero or a marketing centerpiece. He is an ex-felon and a marketing pariah.

He will be vilified by half the fans in the city he plays in and most fans everywhere else. He will have every move scrutinized by a public and media ready to pounce and mock and an NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell, who didn’t like being lied to.

He will be in a locker room where most teammates will say the right thing, something like, “He’s served his time. If he can help us win, I support him.”

But those same players will then step outside and see the picket signs, the news crews, the elephants, the 17 clowns trying stuff themselves into a Volkswagen and maybe that same plane that two years ago circled the field at Falcons’ training camp with a banner reading: “New Team Name: Dog Killers.” And they will think, “I don’t need this. We don’t need this. I wish he was someplace else.”

The success of any pro athlete, particularly an NFL quarterback, is not fast legs or a strong arm. It’s all of those things Vick failed miserably at: leadership, work ethic, resolve, toughness, maturity, teamwork, character.

Michael Vick’s failure as a quarterback had very little to do with his passing accuracy. It had almost everything to do with the intangibles. Vick must come by them in the worst of circumstances. He must come by them when our last memory of him was looking feeble in a season-ending game at Philadelphia, accepting no responsibility for going 2-6 down the stretch and losing 14 of his last 24 starts. He once reacted to the pressure by giving the middle finger to fans at a home game. He all but threw his coach, Jim Mora, and teammates under the bus after that loss to the Eagles. Then he began his off-season with a suspicious water bottle at the Miami airport, was eventually let go by police and rather than breathe a thankful sigh of relief, he suggested maybe somebody was trying to frame him.

Leaders don’t do that. Any of that.

If Vick can return, if he can endure the taunts and grow up and flash any semblance of the magic he once showed us on a football field, this comeback story will top all others.

Unfortunately, the backdrop suggests otherwise. And at least in prison, there has been solitude.

451 comments Add your comment

mars

May 17th, 2009
6:05 pm

It shall be interesting to watch. Will he become a professional, at last?

Sharkman

May 17th, 2009
6:16 pm

As Troy Aikman once put it, playing quarterback in the NFL is done above the shoulders. I am afraid Vick has problems with that part of the game.

Ryan Tribble

May 17th, 2009
6:18 pm

I hope that he can turn himself around, but I will never believe another word that man says until he proves he deserves otherwise. Great work Schultz.

DHD

May 17th, 2009
6:28 pm

Another article about Vick by the AJC. All of the AJC reporters have man crushes on him. Who cares?????

HawkDawg

May 17th, 2009
6:32 pm

Can’t we get more than a 7th round pick for him. Dallas would probably part with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He has to have some value. He is still fairly young and now he is humbled. I’d hate to see him turn his career around and the Falcons have to play him with our season on the line.

Greedy

May 17th, 2009
6:33 pm

You guys can pray for his downfall , but i have faith that the biggest redemption story is on the way. Psalms 121 , MV will play again and when he does all of us who cheered before will pound our chest with joy. Lets get ready to watch the lord guide this boy back to the good life. This story will inspire millions of youth and i know that drives him more than ever.

JD

May 17th, 2009
6:33 pm

Is that Bill Goldberg behind Vick’s right shoulder??

Lou

May 17th, 2009
6:36 pm

DHD..The phrase “Who cares?” always troubles me. It is a very arrogant statement on your part. The implication is you don’t care so no one else should. You have deemed the Michael Vick story non-news worthy, or you are tired of hearing about it. In your arrogance, you assume everyone else should feel the same way because the world obviously revolved around your opinion. The fact of the matter is he is the former number one pick in the NFL draft. At one point, he had hundreds of thousands of fans across this country. He played in this city. He let this city, his fans, his family, friends, and teammates down..and now he is about to get out of jail with a myriad of implications for the NFL and all of those fans…but your arrogance leads you too ask the question “Who cares?” Right or wrong…lots of people do. Just because you are not one of them doesn’t mean a sports columnist in the local newspaper shouldn’t address it. More people care about what may happen with Vick’s football career than care about your arrogance.

wxwax

May 17th, 2009
6:37 pm

I suspect that he still doesn’t get it.

I think that from the moment he realized he was in trouble, he has devoted his entire attention to finding ways to minimize the harm it could do him. I think his every act has been calculated, and not very intelligently, either.

I do not believe he has yet demonstrated any true remorse.

And I think that is why he will be blindsided by the reception he gets from fans. He’s still trying to find ways to beat “the man” when it’s not “the man” who matters. You can’t work an angle with the fans. They want to see something genuine.

I sometimes wonder if this gifted man is capable of being selfless or mature.

We shall see what effect a shunning has on his outlook. It’s a rare person who cares less about how others perceive him. Maybe he’ll change?

JD

May 17th, 2009
6:41 pm

All of the AJC reporters have man crushes on him.

Did you actually read the article, DHD?? That’s definitely not how I talk about my man-crushes.

Good article, Jeff. Me, I’m a very forgiving person. I see that Vick made a mistake in the past (huge mistake), he spent months in jail, and now he’s ready to move on. While I’ve never been involved in anything to the extent of dogfighting, I know I’ve done my share of stupid things and couldn’t wait to get it all behind me.

I hate the “I will never forgive you” viewpoint that most Americans seem to hold. But I guess Vick put himself in this little fiasco to begin with, so he can’t really blame anybody but himself.

Falcon Fan

May 17th, 2009
6:46 pm

I believe Michael Vick will turn his life around and I hope that he is given the opportunity to do so. Roger Goodell needs to calm down with the “I don’t like to be lied to sermon”. This is not the first time he has been lied too. Someone closer to him him than Michael Vick is probably lying to he as I post this. PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) have had their 15 minutes of fame off of Michael Vick, find you a new villian to ride and let this man move on with his life.

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 17th, 2009
6:48 pm

I’m sure the AJC will have a special edition in order to sell their pamphlet on Wed! LOL Of course all of the “we’re so glad he’s gone” crowd will be right there to buy it…and then they’ll complain in the Fall when the national sports outlets forget the Falcons exist while running on the heels of Mike Vick. Maybe Blank should try and put the wheels in motion to steer Vick to a team the Falcons have to play in the Dome…it would be nice to have at least ONE actual sold out game!

The “Hunt is on”!! And its been on and will be on until the opposing team in the Dome is the one MV is on! LOL Welcome back to 2000 Falcons!

Stephen

May 17th, 2009
6:51 pm

Great Article. Only time will tell as to what will be the final footnote on this whole fiasco.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
6:52 pm

Greedy,

Michael Vick can win 10 super bowls in a row as the starting quarterback and he will always be a dumb thug who was into dog fighting. You can pound your chest with joy all you want all it will be signifying is how stupid you are. I almost feel sorry for the guy and his brother because clearly he did not have good parents when he was coming up because both of them have grown into laughable excuses for men. He is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the human race and makes black people look bad. Although I don’t know which was worse Vick dog fighting, which was just one person, or all of the black people in Atlanta who came to his defense and acted like he was the second coming of Jesus? It was quite embarrassing as a black person to see this guy held up like some sort of idol.

Birdy

May 17th, 2009
6:52 pm

AJC = Obssessed with Vick and his future playing status.

Sharpening the blades still, I see.

Ryanreallyis#2

May 17th, 2009
6:53 pm

So the media is convinced of all of the so-called protests…like that huge protest they had at Flowery Branch back in 2007 (all of 20 people, that includes kids)…or how about the 50 people in front of the NFL offices in Manhatten…50 people in a city of 10 million….or maybe the 200 (including kids) in Virginia the day Vick pled? But there were 200 there to support him…so where is the evidence to suggest all these protestors? In the same place as the evidence that suggested all those PUMA people would disrupt and protest the Democratic National Convention? Is that where it is? Yeah…..media manipulation is really for the ignorant who believe in whatever talking points are being pimped to them for the day.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
6:53 pm

And also, I am an idiot.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
6:56 pm

Former season ticket holder,

Why don’t you go to the Falcons games? The Falcons are a much better team now than they were in Vick years and Matt Ryan is a much better quarterback. It’s funny how Roddy White and the rest of the receivers were awful when Vick was here but one year with Ryan and White is in the pro bowl and setting the franchise record for receiving yards. If you want a black quarterback to root for there are better ones in the league to pull for and if you want a black role model for your kids or yourself there are better ones that Vick right on the Falcons right now. I think some of you guys would blow Vick if given the chance and I can honestly say that I have never worshiped another human being like you people do.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
6:58 pm

Yeah I’m an idiot for thinking the people who worship this felon are pathetic. Keep living the good life worshiping a thug. I’m sure you blame the white man for keeping you down too.

Matt's My QB

May 17th, 2009
7:04 pm

Lou that was a great take on arrogance. I too would like to see him successful, but I’d rather see him mature and develope as a better human being. Just like the other supporters, I want to see the guy do all the things we’ve imagine. He’s a remarkable athelete, he could truly be unstoppable. Sometimes heros have to deal with adveristy to reach their full potential as MEN.

DHD

May 17th, 2009
7:04 pm

The proof of the man crush is not in the content of the article, it is the fact that a week doesn’t go by but what they write another article about Vick. It is as bad as ESPN reporting A-Rod and Manny every day. Find something else to write about.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
7:05 pm

I am a white man and I am an idiot. They aren’t usually mutally exclusive.

scottbravesfan

May 17th, 2009
7:07 pm

Here’s hoping the AJC has to lay off another 200 (if that many are left) employees….let the demise be slow. Its down to a newsletter now…I’m sure the hope is that they can capitalize off Vick for a good year, but hopefully he can’t carry them any longer and they slowly go down the tubes.

Whooper Dawg

May 17th, 2009
7:08 pm

I disagree that he has a right to play NFL football. He was right to seek employment and employers have the right to hire him or not. And this is not specific only to Vick, there are many NFL players that should be in the league because of conduct issues. But I have made that point in your columns before.

I don’t think that Vick is a better QB than half the NFL starters, I think he is not better than many of them maybe none. Jeff, you are right, he was none of the intangibles. He can’t read defenses and has absolutely no touch. He does have a very strong arm and can run like the wind. But quality NFL QB, I don’t think so.

Falcon Fan

May 17th, 2009
7:08 pm

Scottbravefan,

Your post infuriated me when I first read it, then I looked at your name, “Scottbravefan”. That right there let me know what an idiot you really are. First stop portraying yourself as being Black because you are not. No one is idolizing Michael Vick, but some people believe in second chances. If do not like Michael Vick and that’s certainly your right, then do so. But you can keep all of the racist overtones, because you, along with me, know nothing about this mans upbringing/family life. You are the typical keyboard racist, whom enjoys spitting these vial words in cyberspace, but if you were standing in Vick’s face you would have lockjaw. By the way, you are probably one of those braves fans that think Bobby Cox is the best thing since sliced bread. The Braves will never be contenders again until they get rid of Cox. The game has long past him by.

Kenneth

May 17th, 2009
7:11 pm

It is so interesting to me that so many people continue treat Michael Vick as if he committed the unpardonable sin or something. The man has paid for his crime and deserved another shot at whatever he is able to get for his God given talents. It is my humble opinion, that there is little difference between fighting dogs and hunting defenseless animals for sport which is legal entertainment in most every state. And don’t give me this crap about some animals being in a special catagory because this is all man made opinions. To me it is nothing but hypocrisy of the highest order but that’s just my view. Michael Vick committed the crime and did the time . Why is this man being treated this way I wonder ? It seems to me that people want him to suffer for the rest of his life while there are thousands of people in high places who have gotten away with all kinds crimes that are worst than dog fighting, but have never been prosecuted because of who they know or how much money they have. To me,let the man alone and so he can get on with whatever he make out of the rest of his life. What if God judged each one of us , the same way we are judging Michael Vick?

Jonny Levin

May 17th, 2009
7:18 pm

Muhammad Ali was a great boxer, he was put in jail for three and a half years and when he came out he became the champion of the world again. Mike Tyson did the same. Hopefully Michael Vick can come out of jail and achieve similar success.

Jeff Schultz

May 17th, 2009
7:19 pm

FIRST A DISCLAIMER: I’ve already had to delete some objectional comments that cross over the line in either racism or something else. I will continue to do so. Please try to keep your comments/debate out of the gutter. Thanx. JS

Sharkman: As Aikman, like Montana, did it more with his brain than physical gifts, it’s understandable that he would say that.

Ryan: Thanks.

DHD: If you can’t realize the magnitude of the Vick story, there’s something wrong.

HawkDawg: I would SHOCKED if the Falcons got a 2 or a 3. I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up having to release him. The number of teams in the market for MV will be minimal, so that hurts trade possibilities.

Lou: Yeah. What you said.

JD: Thanks. Good comments also.

(I’m being summoned to the dinner table — I’ll be right back.)

BigMike

May 17th, 2009
7:20 pm

T’Challa, You, like so many stupid people in this media driven liberal society, chose to want to keep this young man in bondage. Why? Will you or any of the hateful people who continue to want to hold this man down achieve anything from it more than self gratitude? Michael Vick is a comodity to the NFL, and they will try to profit from his return. MLB did it with the HR derby, the NBA with it’s thug of the week tatoo club, and the NFL will look at it from a business perspective. The AJC keeps this going because it sells papers and people are driven by this article. MV welcome back to the league, just like MT did in boxing. Make your money, and let the haters live in there depressive little world. Remember all you pitbull lovers, these are the same dogs that take more lives per year than any other dog.As for you T’Challa get a life, and stop hating on something you could never be. P.S. before you respond, truthfully I played 2 years in the league so don’t think I don’t know the game, or can’t play on that level.

DHD

May 17th, 2009
7:22 pm

I realize the magnitude of each of the 4,356 stories you have run about Vick. Each story is HUGE. I am waiting on a new Vick story to pop up any time now.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 17th, 2009
7:24 pm

Is there an eye-rolling emoticon?

Vick’s supposed “failure” as an NFL quarterback — only he would be characterized as a failure after winning nearly 60% of his games and making three Pro Bowls — were entirely related to coaching. All the moves the Falcons made to make Matt Ryan’s transition from college to the pros easier — spending a first round pick on an offensive tackle, acquiring a short-yardage running back, instituting a scheme that allows him to build rhythm and timing with his receivers — are the moves they failed to make for Vick. The Falcons were a one-man team by design when Vick was the QB here. Hopefully whatever team he goes to doesn’t make the same mistake.

As far as the animal-lover protesters… I think you’ll be surprised how many of them fade off into oblivion after Vick’s first highlight-reel TD.

His biggest obstacle, by far, is whether or not Roger Goodell chooses to reinstate him.

The guy has suffered far more than anyone should in the United States of America for killing animals. Count me among the ones hoping he succeeds in his return to football.

Tommy

May 17th, 2009
7:28 pm

The best thing that ever happen to the Falcons is when MV got caught. They are a better “team” without him. Author Blank, Atlanta, and the world fell in love with the guy who kept us on the edge of our seats playing QB named Mike Vick. Will he do it again? Probably, the guy has a gift to run and throw. Did he make poor / dumb choices ….. VERY. Did Ray Lewis kill those people and get away with it? You answer. Yes people will yell and scream at him until he wins a few games. If he were to go to Raiders or Vikings and the start winning all would be forgiven. In sports it is about winning … that is all. Look at Baseball and A-Rod, Bonds, Manny, Poppi, and the list goes on and on.

We forgive our heros when the win. Vick will be the same way ….

HawkDawg

May 17th, 2009
7:28 pm

I wish him the best of luck…..only if it is in the AFC! He has had a lot of time to think and I would imagine that he will quite motivated when he comes back. Never underestimate human nature.

Matt

May 17th, 2009
7:33 pm

The same people that support Mike Vick blindly are the same people that supported O.J. blindly. If the NFL lets him back it, which I believe they will eventually do, and a team wants to give him a chance, then he deserves to get a chance. It was never a good QB to begin with. He made some great plays, but he is not smart and not a leader, and those are two essentials to be a great QB. That’s why Jeff George was always an underachiever. He had great abilities but was terrible above the shoulders. Same with Vick.

Barney Strickland

May 17th, 2009
7:35 pm

I swore I would never watch/support the Falcons as long as this monster was part of their game plan. Anyway, just wait until this dog killing scum gets his first taste of opposing NFL fans in cities throughout the league. Funny thing though, I decided the last year he played, he just didn’t have the ability to deliver us a championship. Now, I’m just glad he’s not going to be our problem any longer. Tarring and feathering would be too good for him but a nice start regardless. Good riddance to Ron Mexico…….. the bum that he is !!!!

country boy

May 17th, 2009
7:46 pm

Let’s take that 7th round draft choice and get rid of this cancer. Let the Vick saga play out in Dallas or somewhere else. End this sad story. Our Falcons – the white ones, brown ones and black ones are moving in the right direction.

bravesfan54

May 17th, 2009
7:46 pm

I have no “should” in this fight. I am the president of a large county Humane Society (I don’t – let’s be clear- speak for it in this instance).

Here are my thoughts: Michael Vick has every legal right to play professional football once the Commissioner of the NFL lifts its suspension. Michael Vick has every legal right to play football. Each and every owner of an NFL club (with due allowance for existing rights) has the right to seek to employ the services of Michael Vick. EVERY sports fan, and every other citizen has the right to protest the employment of this man in any capacity.

It is not “should he be hired by any team?” – the answer to which is “They have everly a right to!”). It is not how should the public react?- the answer is: they have a right to how they damn well feel!).

Of course, if the question is does he have a right to play professional football, the obvious answer is “yes, when the league suspension ends”.

So, should the league suspension end? I say yes, but only because I have no objective way of determining when he has paid the “full” price. He paid the price the law required, and commissioner has a “vague” criterion that amounts to ‘when I think he is sorry enough’! I don’t like like this at all.

I personally think that Michael Vick’s conduct should disqualify him for life. What I don’t like is the “sackcloth and ashes” approach of the NFL. (Those of you with backgrounds in history will understand that the consequence (ok, perhaps self-imposed) for King Henry’s assasination of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas a’ Becket, was that the king must kneell for four days seeking forgiveness. (History buffs, note, this was the short versions!)

I would not require Michael Vick to spend four days on his knees, in sackcloth. I would only recommend it, and then I would be done with it!

Bobby

May 17th, 2009
7:46 pm

It’s his arrogance that gets me. The day he went for his sentencing he bought a $100,000 car on his debit card. I have no sympathy for Vick. I hope he never plays in the NFL. He has had his chances. All he has done is lie, lie and tell more lies. I doubt he can even spell words such as “honesty”, “morals”, “ethics”.

JAYBO

May 17th, 2009
7:54 pm

I see many people still do’t get it…the man didnt kill a human..he fought dogs and killed dogs….who cares??? My only problem with it is it is illigeal…let it go folks…peta need 2 go sit down somewhere…trying 2 throw some weight around! Leave Vick alone and let him resume his career!! I don’t care what yawl say a dog is a dog and I’m not about 2 equate their lives with human life…even when humans kill other humans they get a second chance! whats wrong with us people…are we that sick in america….we can give people a chance 2 resume their lives when they kill another human, but we don’t want 2 give a human another chance when he kills a dog…listen at that now…a dog!!!! We are more messed up in this country than I thought!!!

haleydawg

May 17th, 2009
7:55 pm

i would rather read about vick than brett farve, i hope he gets billions from minn and they drop out of pro football, they have no clue

haleydawg

May 17th, 2009
7:56 pm

he as in frave

Jeff Schultz

May 17th, 2009
7:56 pm

Falcon Fan: Oh, is that what PETA stands for? Didn’t realize that. I’m in!

Ryanreallyis#2: Were you at any of the protests? Because I was, and all had more than 20.

DHD: Can’t speak for others but it’s been a while since I devoted an entire column to Vick.

Whooper Dawg: “I disagree that he has a right to play NFL football. He was right to seek employment and employers have the right to hire him or not.” I think when most people say the first thing, they mean the second thing.

Najeh: I’m not going to disagree with you that a lot of the Falcons’ decline was partly due to the coaching of Jim Mora (and his staff) and some personnel issues. But that doesn’t preclude the way Vick handled situations or excuse his lack of growth in adverse circumstances.

Jeff Schultz

May 17th, 2009
7:59 pm

Lynn — if you can’t get though a post without bringing race into it, that’s on you, not me.

Others– I’ve deleted about a dozen comments now. (I may have dropped a couple accidentally, so if I obliterated yours, my apologies and you can re-post). Again, I don’t take this lightly. Debate all you want, but if you can’t keep this civil I’ll simply close the comments section. It’s up to you.

Tee Man

May 17th, 2009
8:03 pm

You guys kill me, The 1st guy that never made a mistake in life throw the first stone…Where’s the flag for unnecessary roughness, The man has lost is livelihood, been publicly humiliated and went to prision. He has paid his debt to society. Now Rodger wansts him to kiss the pinky ring and his a##, for a chance to ge back into the league. PETA can wait for another opportunity to kick him while he down and oh yea cash in on the free publicity. Now you tell me who getting the inhumane treatment.

Ryanreallyis#2

May 17th, 2009
8:03 pm

Jeff you’re blatantly lying. Seriously, where you wearing your glasses? What protest at Flowery Branch had more than 20 adults? Yeah I was there – not even a relevant number. There weren’t in any city. I have the photos to prove it.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
8:05 pm

MAY 20: “THE DAY THE SPORTS WORLD STOOD STILL” :)

SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF NERVOUS HATERS ON THIS BLOG :)

GO FALCONS!

Kenny

May 17th, 2009
8:17 pm

It is precisely because dogs are helpless domesticated animals that Vick’s reputation is in tatters. Even if he had not spent a single day in jail, most people saw the cruelty of what he did and were shocked. It’s easy to take advantage of the helpless. Most violence is pepetrated in this way particularly I would say humans against humans. Our capacity to be cruel and vicious is well documented. We humans are God’s creatures and we are meant to be their caretakers (wild animals and the fishes of the sea fall into this category too now because of human action) and many see Vick’s abuse of animals as heartless and disturbing. We are called to something higher I believe. Now Vick is called more than most. I think he has a chance to redeem himself and he can do it with some public and from the heart amends with regard to domesticated animals. He needs to make some tangible amends and over a long period of time. I hate what he did and I hope he will realize he has a chance to achieve some real good with his soon to be long hard path back to society. Godspeed with hope!

Todd

May 17th, 2009
8:24 pm

Falcon Fans don’t worry, the management will NEVER let Vick QB again; they never wanted him to QB even though he was the best. ZThis time they do ot have to lie the way they did to DJ Shockley (saying all QB’s will start a pre-season game).

AS for PETA, why does this country contimue to be held hostage for such a stupid group. Perhaps Vick should have just been involved with killing a black man, he would have just received a suspended sentence and would be back in football. The only people wo care aout dogs are dog owners. They simply are not human; not that I believe anyone should just abuse them, but this whole thing is just blown way too big. Meanwile Matt Jones who played for Jacksonville traffic cocaine and was allow to play in the league PENDING the disposition of the case, until a technical violation of the pretrial release.

If this arrogant commissioner does reinstate Vick, I hope he cream the Falcons if he play against them. I am a Falcon Fan, but I wish him much success.

jethro bodine

May 17th, 2009
8:24 pm

MV is one of the most physically talented athletes to come along in a long time. Trouble is, the man just ain’t got a brain and that’s something that he can’t rise above.

Derrick

May 17th, 2009
8:25 pm

I am just looking forward to this season, Last season was alot of fun.
I wish Vick alot of luck but we have a new QB now, and good things are to come.

Old school fan

May 17th, 2009
8:27 pm

I was convicted of a felony that I didn’t even know I committed (leaving the scene of an accident involving injury) until I was presented with the evidence. I thought I had clipped a construction barrel. Turns out I hit a mentally ill woman who had a history of jumping in front of cars. It is now almost impossible for me to find a lucrative job in a field I am very good at. I am an excellent millwright/industrial mechanic and I am being denied employment because of this felony. Why should Vick be any different? I seek an honest answer. I doubt I will get one.

Jenny

May 17th, 2009
8:40 pm

I think that what Vick did is horrific and that his sentence should have been harsher, but the justice system disagreed. He served his time…

I personally will CHOOSE not to watch him play football, which is, of course, my choice. I will CHOOSE to turn off the television if/when he is on the football field, but I will not CHOOSE to bash or ostracize anyone else for a choice different from mine.

If any of you think that this crime or worse crimes aren’t still going on in the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc., you are very naive. The difference is that Vick got caught and the others haven’t. In a perfect world none of this atrocity would exist, but we aren’t a perfect people and bad things are done by people every day. Please understand, I am not making light of what he did, but I am human and imperfect, and therefore willing to forgive. However, forgetting is far harder and will take a lot of time. Again, I think what he did was horrific and it completely breaks my heart, but I am not perfect and have done stupid things in my life that I regret. I have no right to judge anyone else.

I for one certainly hope Vick turns himself around and gets his life together, and in doing so, helps someone else who may be heading down the road he did.

Barry Jay

May 17th, 2009
8:42 pm

I think Vick deserves a chance…one chance…to play in the NFL again. I believe the protesters will fade only after he shows true remorse. A news conference and a apology is not enough. He will need to donate a portion of his salary to promote animal welfare. Also, saying the right things about the egregiousness of his behavior will be necessary. Finally, volunteering at an animal shelter would help as well. There are other ways to show remorse…but these would, I think, demonstrate it well.

As for the Falcons getting a draft pick for him, if he pledged a percentage of his salary and started volunteering before signing with a team, the protests may be minimal and perhaps his value would increase.

Frankly, I think the Falcons have put themselves at a disadvantage by saying they would definitely release him. Why should teams give anything knowing we are going to cut him loose? They are too afraid of what Vick will bring in bad PR. They’ll wait until signing him will cost them as little as possible. If the Falcons invite him to camp, however, the teams that secretly want him might get anxious, especially if the circus atmosphere is minimized.

falcon21

May 17th, 2009
8:42 pm

If Vick makes it big in the NFL then good for Vick, if he does not then so be it. He is as human as we are and we will see if he learns from his mistakes. Let it go.

Larry

May 17th, 2009
8:48 pm

Ability can take you to the top–integrity can keep you there.

maddog

May 17th, 2009
8:49 pm

I really get tired of reading,they were just dogs,and its not just the dog fighting, its all the other things he did. I love football,but this took away from the game.It was always somethig new ,he disrupted the team,it was always about him. I think that he should stay suspended until next year. He served time in prison because he had to. Give it a year then review and see what he has done on hi own, if he shows true remorse , then let him play, but not this year.

Larry

May 17th, 2009
8:50 pm

Barry,

ANyone with more than a double digit IQ must know the Falcons will NEVER invite Vick to training camp! LOL!

Trill

May 17th, 2009
8:51 pm

the only person in federal prison for dog fighting.enough said…As for the lieing to Godell,Vick didnt lie.Are you fighting dogs Mr Vick. no im not..all the charges were conspiricy charge.read the indictment..lets not forget the closed congressional session to strengthen the dog fighting laws.(thats a secret).

Barry Jay

May 17th, 2009
8:51 pm

Todd,
No creature deserves to be tortured, neglected, or abused. The callousness you show in talking about dogs is one reason PETA exists. I have lived with dogs and cats all my life. They function on the same level as small children. They have emotions and are deeply connected to loving, caring humans. You show your ignorance of dogs when you talk the way you did.

Vick should get a chance. I would even give him one with the Falcons (though not as a QB). It is wrong for anyone, including PETA, to continue to persecute him after he paid his debt to society. However, don’t comment on the lives of animals of which you don’t seem to have any understanding.

crabapplejoe

May 17th, 2009
8:52 pm

Todd wrote: “Meanwile Matt Jones who played for Jacksonville traffic cocaine and was allow to play in the league PENDING the disposition of the case, until a technical violation of the pretrial release.”

Try to have some clue about what you are talking about before wasting everyone’s time by posting. Matt Jones was not charged with “traffiking” cocaine…it was simple possession. He was suspended for several games last year by the NFL. He apparently violated a pre-tial release order on the simple possession charge by drinking a beer while playing golf. He admitted this to a judge and the Jaguars released him. Pleez.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
8:52 pm

I WONDER HOW MATT RYAN “LEAF” WILL BE JUDGED IF THE FALCONS DON’T MAKE OR WIN A PLAYOFF GAME THIS SEASON.

WILL IT BE BECAUSE THERE WERE NO RECEIVERS?

THERE WERE NO GOOD TIGHT ENDS?

THE OFFENSIVE LINE WAS BAD?

POOR COACHING?

BAD GM?

WILL IT CONTINUE TO BE EVERYONE ELSE’S FAULT?

WILL HE BE A HERO EVEN WITH NO PLAYOFF WINS?

WILL HE BE THE BUST LIVING OFF OF R. WHITE & M. TURNER?

I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.

Tom Glavine

May 17th, 2009
8:55 pm

Mike Vick, Vince Young, Kordell Stewart are all exhibit A as to why being a quarterback is more mental than physical. They were all lousy QB’s but great athletes

Barry Jay

May 17th, 2009
8:55 pm

Larry,
Obviously, you are not one who should comment on the IQ of anyone else.

I never said the Falcons will invite Vick to camp. I think they made a mistake by telling everyone they would release him. They did that way too early. I would invite him to camp and if we had a problem, I’d then release him. That is the only way we’ll get anything for him.

Larry, you are really funny talking about the IQ of others.

Ryanreallyis#2

May 17th, 2009
8:59 pm

And Jeff, its folks like Barry Jay that make it clear that the majority were certainly NOT bashing Mike Vick because of the charges. No, PETA and the fradulent HSUS were able to capitalize on a situation because most who were hollering over the internet and airwaves about Mike Vick were doing so for reasons which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the charges. Only the truly insane will equate a dog or cat with a CHILD. No, be honest Jeff…most people were just hollering because, due to the neo-con sports media, Mike Vick was and continues to be, the most “polarizing” athlete in the 21st century….which is more a commentary on those who are “polarized”…certainly not Mike Vick.

Barry Jay, when people no longer want their dog or cat, they are free to drop it off at a shelter and ride on…where after a few days, that dog or cat is ash. So no…a dog or cat is NOT a small child in the United States of America…or anywhere else on EARTH.

tracy

May 17th, 2009
9:01 pm

what is the difference with what mv did and hunting. It is all the same to me. I have a coworker who wrote blank a letter and protested against vick but have never been to a game in all her 53 yrs. She is an animal lover. Never contributed money to a sporting event. People like her are the ones complaining the loudest. Oh and by the way he didnt handle the dogs himself i say let him play

Doggit

May 17th, 2009
9:02 pm

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals

I wish Vick the best. What he did was pretty disturbing. If you still don’t think dog-fighting is not a big deal, please try to poke you head up out of the area you live in a look around. Aside from Korea, most of the world loves their dogs. Anyway, I wish him the best. Please just stay the hell away from the Falcons.

Barry Jay

May 17th, 2009
9:09 pm

Ryanrealist;

I never equated a dog or cat with a child. I said: “They function on the same level as small children. They have emotions and are deeply connected to loving, caring humans.” I never said they have the same rights or are viewed in the same as a child.

You make me sick. It is people like you who fail to see animals as more than throw away posessions that allow dogfighting and other abuses of creation to occur. If people like you were just a tiny bit more sensitive to others, then you wouldn’t be talking about PETA and the HSUS at all. They wouldn’t exist. Just because you can’t understand what I’m talking about doesn’t mean the issue is not real. People didn’t understand racism or sexism at one time either.

Mike Vick will, I hope, get a chance. That is more than he gave the dogs he allowed to be tortured and fought. I guess that proves your point, though. And it proves mine.

As for the “charges”…that was never anyone’s problem with Vick. Where have you been?
“”

MikeDogforLife

May 17th, 2009
9:09 pm

I wonder do all of you fans who criticize Mike Vick, for making a mistake and trying to recover; have ever made a mistake and hope someone forgave you for it. None of you know what he went through, or what he is going through right now. Get over it. We’re all are football fans. He has paid his debt now it’s up to the Commish to either let him work or find a gig elsewhere. Stop talking about he’s a thug and what he spent his money on. Grow up or stop watching football. This is life things happen and we we move on. FREE MIKE VICK!!!!!!! Dog Lovers of America.

Sunshine

May 17th, 2009
9:13 pm

Ughh, some of you folks with this mentality that its just dogs? You make me sick!

Jeff Schultz

May 17th, 2009
9:15 pm

Ryanreally: Vick was polarizing before dog-fighting. Dog-fighting didn’t make him polarizing. And the media didn’t make him polarizing. A subject is either polarizing or it isn’t.

Tracy: I can give you one big difference: One is legal, one isn’t. But I really don’t want to make this comments section a referendum on dog-fighting.

eddiedawg

May 17th, 2009
9:27 pm

VS2 you kill me. I seem to recall this town blaming some of last season on the “rookie wall” Ryan hit after game 12. He also threw a terrible pick in the playoffs which may have cost us the game. He is not above blame because he is white. He is, however, a LEADER which is something your hero Vick never was or will be.

As Blank says-we (the Falcons organization) has turned the page, chapter and closed the book on the Mike Vick era. Can’t you sycophants do the same??
GO FALCONS

26belly

May 17th, 2009
9:27 pm

I don’t remember Michael Vick giving an Iversonesque interview…”We talking about practice!” I don’t recollect Michael Vick pimp-slapping a strip club dancer or beating one senseless. I’ve never heard of (he may have but…I never did) Michael Vick running three or four white women while his girlfriend was pregnant. I don’t remember him killing a human being. Of course there was an allegation about a burning incident, ie. STD. Yes, there was the incident when the gave the fans the finger, but what Atlanta athlete hasn’t wanted to do that to our fair-weathered fan base. The rage that continues to be expressed in the ATL in regards to Michael Vick is a modern day electronic Leo Frank lynching! I dare anyone on this site to sashay down to Columbia, SC and tell them to change their mascot from the Gamecock! I dare you to venture to Oklahoma and attempt to raid a cockfighting match. Better yet, I don’t see the FBI sniffing around East LA (Lower Alabama: Russell Co.) trying to raid the cockfights and dogfights down here!!!
Hopefully, Michael Vick signs a contract in the Canadian Football League and leaves the NFL to history!

OldTimer

May 17th, 2009
9:28 pm

I think the Raiders will take him and I think he’ll do well. Oakland’s standards (including the fans) are different than the rest of us. I can’t really see him anywhere else.

D.Carter

May 17th, 2009
9:29 pm

The thing that bothers me most about the Vick thing is this.. the same people who call his crimes the worst they have ever seen are the same people who sit in trees and shoot deer in the name of sport….. And the whole thing with people saying that Vick wasnt and isnt a good to decent QB are just not being realistic with themselves when hailng Matt Ryan as the next Peyton or Tom Brady..

Truth be told Vick has playoff vicktories under his belt and an appearence in the NFC title game…
with very little talent surrounding him!!!! Until (god) excuse me Matt Ryan wins a playoff game save your second coming talk…. This is the same dude who was getting his snap count jumped everyplay against Arizona…

Mike Vick indeed was his own worst enemy and was and still is paying a hefty price for his sins and mistakes.. but a lot of these people equate his mistakes to his play.. we need to be a little more realistic and separate his off the field troubles from what he brought to this city………

How many of you same people who call Vick a thug and goon get behind the wheel of a car while impaired by drugs or alcohol

or have hit a woman… truth be told you are also a thug and unintelligent…. understand the difference and let the man rebuild his life in whatever matter he sees fit……The HYPOCRISY

Ryanreallyis#2

May 17th, 2009
9:31 pm

Jeff, if you read my comment with comprehension you will see that I reference that he was considered “polarizing” prior to the dogfighting issue…and please, how did Mike Vick create the “polarization” of himself? He created a campaign of polarization to the masses? You can play the “duh, what do you mean?” game all you want too. His “polarizing” moniker definitely is not one that he bought on himself unless not looking like a 1950s All-American boy from the heartland is his own fault.

Falcon Fan

May 17th, 2009
9:33 pm

The South was built on cockfighting. Cockfighting in going on right now as we speak. Where are PETA and the other animal rights crowds. I do not hear any uproar on this issue.

eddiedawg

May 17th, 2009
9:36 pm

Gosh I enjoy hunting. Guess I should go to turn myself into Leavenworth. Oh wait-I don’t have to because IT’S LEGAL YOU IDIOTS.

Dawgone

May 17th, 2009
9:37 pm

I think people should relax when it comes to MV being reinstated. First of all what the hell is showing true remorse? MY should not have to do anything but serve his time like all former felons. No crying on TV for an apology or donating his salary. To the PETA people get over yourself who the hell are you its over now go protest dog races down in Shorter Alabama. Yeah when one of the dogs breaks a leg in a race they kill them too. Now I will say the falcons are better without MV. They now have a complete team. But I assure you that no one in the Falcons organization wants to play against Vick. So to all the haters you will see MV playing again wether you like or not. Consider yourselves warned!

cdog

May 17th, 2009
9:39 pm

I SAY GIVE MIKE VICK ANOTHER CHANCE. REMEMBER WE GOT ANOTHER CHANCE FOR HOPE WHEN JESUS PAID FOR OUR SINS ON THE CROSS.LETS NOT BE QUICK TO JUDGE. JUDGE YE NOT THAT YE BE JUDGED. I DON’T LIKE KILLING ANYTHING.THOU SHALL NOT KILL. BUT I THINK HE PAID FOR HIS CRIME. HE’S A HUMAN BEING WHO IS ASKING FOR A SECOND CHANCE. ANIMALS WRE INVOLVED AND NOT HUMANS. SOME OF US GO OVER BOARD ABOUT AN ANIMAL SOMETIMES WHICH IS CRAZY. SOME OF US TREAT HUMANS WORST THAN ANIMALS WHO ARE NOTHING BUT DUMB ANIMALS. GIVE THE MAN ANOTHER CHANCE TO MAKE A LIVING. THE FALCONS WILL BE FOOLISH TO LET VICK GO. REMEMBER, VENGEANCE IS MINE SAITH THE LORD. WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE OR TAKE VENGEANCE UPON OURSELVES AGAINST ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

Boo Boo

May 17th, 2009
9:41 pm

What is amazing to me is the attitude, “He’s paid his dues, now he has a RIGHT to renew his NFL career.” What right? Does a convicted sex offender have a right to return to being seen as a normal person, blending into a society that assumes everyone else is not sexually perverted? No. They have to register as sex offenders and most have to search for some place to live. Does a convicted felon have the right to leave prison and vote in a presidential election? Not most places. Does an employee of Home Depot, who get convicted of running a cock fighting ring in Monroe have the right to just call up the HD on his release and ask, “When do I return to work?” It doesn’t happen that way. Why is Mike Vick special? He’s not. He is just another convicted felon who needs to have people care for his wellbeing for his survival. If he gets that, in 20 years maybe he can realize what he did wrong. If he gets the RIGHT to make millions of dollars, simply because he can run fast and made millions of dollars before, its like coming back from a bad injury. No lessons to be learned from that, other than not to get injured again. In dog killer language, that means the lesson of not getting caught the next time.

cdog

May 17th, 2009
9:45 pm

REMEMBER FALCONS, TREAT SOMEONE WRONG IT WILL COME BACK ON YOU. GIVE VICK ANOTHER CHANCE, THINK ABOUT A TEAM WITH TWO DYNAMIC QUARTERBACKS IN IN RYAN AND VICK. WITH THE OFFENSIVE WEAPONS WE ALREADY HAVE WHAT DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE COULD STOP US? DON’T LISTEN TO OTHER WHO IS PREACHING HATE TOWARD THEIR FELLOW MAN.BRING VICK BACK

mrdonut

May 17th, 2009
9:47 pm

I thought he was going into the construction business?

Old school fan

May 17th, 2009
9:48 pm

One question, did MV eat the dogs? That’s my excuse. WhAT IS MIKE’S?Come up with some more illogic dumba@#

Boo Boo

May 17th, 2009
9:49 pm

Joe Schmoe

May 17th, 2009
9:51 pm

CDOG, treating someone wrong? Like, oh lets say funding a dog fighting ring, and letting all your team mates down in the process? Really? In the end Vick will be back in the league if he still has something in the tank. Obviously, it will not be with the Matt Ryan led Falcons. Good luck to him wherever, just not the ATL.

FreeMikeVick

May 17th, 2009
9:55 pm

Atlanta turned their back on Vick, so why should he want to come back here?

Jay

May 17th, 2009
9:56 pm

Mike Vick was wrong in what he did and has paid the price. Everyone has moved on since then. The point is that he should be allowed to earn a living (whether in the NFL or somewhere else). The market will determine if he will make a comeback in the NFL and if my hunch is correct, he will do so. Reality is that he will not be the first ex-prisoner to get back in sports (Mav Albert is still running commentaries today!!).

michaelgee

May 17th, 2009
9:56 pm

How soon can we expect Vick to be off the roster?

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
9:56 pm

JOE FLACCO = 2-PLAYOFF WINS & 1-CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

MIKE VICK = 2-PLAYOFF WINS & 1-CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

MATT RYAN “LEAF” = 0-PLAYOFF WINS & 0-CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES

YEAH THAT’S AN INTELLIGENT LEADER :)

GO FALCONS!

GO LEAF!

Jeff Schultz

May 17th, 2009
9:58 pm

MichaelGee: I’d be surprised if Vick is still on the roster when training camp starts. But can’t say for certain.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
10:00 pm

MATT RYAN = NO CRIMINAL

MICHAEL VICK = CRIMINAL

Terrible Truth

May 17th, 2009
10:03 pm

If we are stuck with him as a Falcons employee, Vick should be put to work. Let him pick up jocks and dirty towels off the locker room floor. He couldn’t pick up an offense or read a defense worth a fat baby’s butt, maybe he can operate a commercial washing machine.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
10:05 pm

“FOOD FOR THOUGHT” – FOR DOG LOVERS

DURING THE 1ST GULF WAR WHILE SERVING ONBOARD THE U.S.S. DULUTH, WE HAD R.O.C. (KOREAN) MARINES ONBOARD IN ONE OF THE BIRTHINGS ON THE SHIP. IN THEIR BIRTHING, THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY LIKED.

WELL THEIR WAS BARKING COMING FROM THEIR AREA. THIS WENT ON FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BARKING STOPPED. WHEN THE KOREANS LEFT THE SHIP, A DOG’S HEAD WAS FOUND IN THE GARBAGE CAN. I THINK YOU KNOW THE END OF THIS STORY.

THE NAVY DIDN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT WAS LIKE RAISING A PIG OR CHICKEN. ONLY PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE DOG FIGHTING A BIG DEAL. AT LEAST THEY GET TO LIVE IF THEY WIN – IN KOREA THEY MAKE THE BUFFET :)

WHOEVER SIGNS MIKE VICK WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR – COUNT ON IT!

BARK AT THAT :)

Dawgone

May 17th, 2009
10:06 pm

Old school did you eat it Idiot. Who cares he paid is debt. Let the man move on whether it be construction, football or God forbid hunting. Maybe you and him can exchange some hunting secrets then would you like him again.

Ted Striker

May 17th, 2009
10:06 pm

1) In the eyes of the NFL, Michael Vick’s greatest sin was lying. Nearly 50 players on rosters were charged with everything from manslaughter (Grant, Charles; Stallworth, Dante) to assault or battery (Johnson, Larry; Boley, Michael, among others) or drug possession, DUI, etc (see Tunnel, Carpal — if I type all the names) in the last 12 calendar months.

2) The character of some — not all — of Michael Vick’s critics (mainly mayonnaise sandwich eating bambi blasters) in these forums is probably not much worse than some of the guys behind bars. The folks in jail have been convicted of crimes but at least they’re not holier than thou types (you know who you are), always wanting to cast the 1st-2nd-3rd-4th-5th stone.

3) I’d rather go to war with the Dirty Dozen than you judas types.

Boots

May 17th, 2009
10:07 pm

A quarterback should get better over time. As he gains more experience he should improve. That never happened with Vick.

As a matter of fact, he reached the apex of his career early and went downhill — never mastering the intellectual part of the game. He’s a terrific athlete; but a middling quarterback.

Jack G.

May 17th, 2009
10:09 pm

Vick’s actions were reprehensible—-Vick entered a guilty plea.—Vick did his time—Vick paid his debt.
He is now even with the board—-Leave him alone and let him salvage what he can from his interrupted Life.
Like everyone else he diserves a 2nd chance. Lets just sit back and see what he makes of a 2nd chance.

eddiedawg

May 17th, 2009
10:10 pm

VS2 keep blogging-your idiocy is shining through.

MATT RYAN= ROOKIE, with 11 wins, Vick only had 9 his SECOND season

GO FALCONS

BYE VICK

James B. McMullen

May 17th, 2009
10:12 pm

I THINK VICK SHOULD GO INTO HORSE RACING, OR BRONCO RIDING, TO
LAWFULLY INFLICT PAIN TO ANIMALS.

Reid Adair

May 17th, 2009
10:12 pm

Jeff, you are 100 percent correct on this. If and when Michael Vick goes back to professional football – whether it’s the NFL, the CFL, the Arena league or wherever else – he’s going to find protests and critics.

I wonder how many times Arthur Blank has to say it – Michael Vick will NEVER be back in a uniform with the Falcons again. NEVER.

For those who have ignored Blank or missed it previously, he stated it AGAIN at the State of the Franchise event at the Georgia Dome. I’m sure the video is somewhere on atlantafalcons.com.

And, for the record, I am a white man who owned – and proudly wore – a Vick jersey … BEFORE he went to prison. It was sent to an animal shelter in Atlanta to use however they see fit.

James

May 17th, 2009
10:15 pm

I THINK VICK SHOULD GO INTO HORSE RACING, OR BRONCO RIDING, TO
LAWFULLY INFLICT PAIN TO ANIMALS.

dixiewife44

May 17th, 2009
10:16 pm

First and foremost, he needs to GROW UP. Secondly, he’s a convicted felon. No matter what the crime was, he is and always will be a con. I personally wouldn’t support his being back in the NFL if my life depended on it, but thats my opinion.

JD

May 17th, 2009
10:17 pm

if you can’t keep this civil I’ll simply close the comments section. It’s up to you.

haha, JS is going elementary school teacher on us. Makes me wonder what some people are posting. I’m not too sure how race started factoring into this whole fiasco.

Boots

May 17th, 2009
10:19 pm

Michael Vick and I have one thing in common: my golf game has not improved over time and he didn’t improve as a quarterback over time.

He reached the apex of his career early on and went downhill simply because he could not master the intellectual components of the came and was not motivated to put forth the effort necessary to excel.

Rabiddawg

May 17th, 2009
10:23 pm

In the NFL as well as in life. You either get it or you don’t. Vick just didn’t get it. Now having said that, absolutely he deserves another shot at playing. I hope that he does well for himself. He served his time and that should be that. People let the hate go.

jakedsnake

May 17th, 2009
10:23 pm

Leave it to the New York Times to get it wrong. Vick wasn’t better than half of the NFL quarterbacks when he was a starter. He might be gifted with speed and arm strenght, but not quarterbacking skills. Does anyone think it’s an accident that Roddy White began to come into his own AFTER Vick was gone? I’d love to see the Falcons get something in return for him after all he’s put them through, but I don’t think even crazy Al Davis is stupid enough to take on this cancer.

jacketbacker

May 17th, 2009
10:29 pm

keep him in prison….that’s where he belongs….

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
10:33 pm

TRIVIA QUESTION:

1. HOW MANY PLAYOFF WINS DO THE FALCONS HAVE SINCE 1999?
2. WHO WAS THE WINNING QB IN THOSE WINS?

WE ARE TALKING 10-SEASONS FOLKS. SURELY A GLORIFIED QUARTERBACK COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE ALL THE PLAYOFF WINS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS :)

GO FALCONS!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
10:36 pm

THE NEW YORK TIMES ROCKS :)

THE TRUTH HURTS :)

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
10:40 pm

ANY NEWS ON THE PROSECUTION FOR THOSE 21 DEAD “POLO” HORSES? OH THAT’S RIGHT HE ATE MAYONAISE :) CAN I SAY THAT ON HERE?

Coon-Dawg

May 17th, 2009
10:54 pm

Why are we still talking about this “joke of a quarterback, joke of a person” ? … Go Ice Go !!!

alan

May 17th, 2009
10:55 pm

Okay. What Michael Vicks did was wrong, immoral, and illegal. I own a dog. He deserved what he – jail time, financial loss, etc. But, where is the forgiveness? The bible states “blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.” We don’t extend mercy to people because they deserve it. But we extend mercy because the time will come when we will need mercy. Why not give the man a second chance?
Finally, suppose God have the same attitude towards forgiving us like most people have toward Michael Vicks? As heard as it may seem for a large number of people leaving comments, the day will come when you will surely need mercy.

Vick Supporter

May 17th, 2009
10:56 pm

You people keep saying that Roddy got better when Vick left,lol. I f any of you watched the games, Roddy dropped so many passes that were right in his hands, also, Roddy himself ADMITTED that he didn’t know how to play WR in the NFL at the time, or how to prepare. He learned this from Petrino, of all people. Roddy is good now because RODDY DEVELOPED AS A WR. I gurantee, you will turn on Roddy again, yet you’ll never blame Ryan for anything and we all know why. I saw no one saying ANYTHING about his arm looking like a noodle in week 10,lol. Redemption is near…..ON WEDNESDAY,LMAO.

Vick 09

Ted Striker

May 17th, 2009
10:57 pm

Yo, Dixiewife44 — 1) He needs to “grow up”? That might make sense if you were talking about a guy coming out of juvie. 2) “He will always be a con.” Clearly you never watched Rockford Files; he’ll actually be an ex-con. 3) “I personally wouldn’t support him being back in the NFL if my life depended on it.” Yeah, yeah, whatever. Whenever someone says something flighty about a trivial topic and they add “if their life depended on it” then they’ve never been in a situation that their life depended on. 4) I’ve always wondered who the mayo-sandwich eatin’ bambi blaster was married to.

eddiedawg

May 17th, 2009
11:02 pm

90% of the people on this blog are Vick fans.

I am proud to represent the sane 10%-who are FALCONS fans-and we could care less what color the QB is-just win baby.

GO FALCONS

TO GREEDY

May 17th, 2009
11:04 pm

No one is praying for his downfall. That is just the Obama mentality. Having a chip on your shoulder and saying everyone hates you. Always find someone to hate or hold a grudge against than lash out your. vegenance

Vick Supporter

May 17th, 2009
11:05 pm

Redemtion is near…………

thunderlee

May 17th, 2009
11:06 pm

If God can forgive us, why can’t we forgive one and other. I am sure he has learnt a lot from this costly mistake.

Vick Supporter

May 17th, 2009
11:06 pm

Wow…the Falcon fans talk more about The Great Mike Vick than they do their own noodle armed QB

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
11:07 pm

I WAS WATCHING DRAFT DAY AND I ALMOST FELL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING WHEN THE HOST ASKED RON JAWORSKI (GREAT DROP BACK PASSER) ABOUT THE RETURN OF MIKE VICK.

RON JAWORSKI SAID THAT MIKE VICK TOOK THE WHOLE CITY OF ATLANTA AND PUT THE TEAM ON HIS BACK & PUT THEM ON THE MAP – THE SAME THING I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LONGEST!

I GUESS YOU WILL MAKE UP EXCUSES ABOUT RON JAWORSKI (PAID ANALYST) NOT KNOWING WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT TOO :)

GO MATTY ICE – GET A PLAYOFF WIN BEFORE YOU GET OLD :)

JJB

May 17th, 2009
11:09 pm

So what is it going to be Vick Supporter. On some blogs you state that you have nothing against Ryan, he is a good quarterback but Vick is your man. And then we get the above “noodle armed” comment. Sounds like you got something against Ryan after all. Could it be his race?

Vick Supporter

May 17th, 2009
11:18 pm

JJB….are you saying that it wasn’t? He was damn near throwing jump passes at times. I guess that’s the “touch” that Ryan has. And yes, I think Ryan is a good QB, but he’ll never be great….at least not playing for this franchise.

Vick 09

Dr Soul

May 17th, 2009
11:20 pm

We have Presidents who lie on a consistent basis and some who will send people into a war zone that will never be won, but will sacrifice a human being much like an animal… Vick certainly made his own bed of problems and at the same time has paid in many ways for his societal sins… if he goes forward leading a life that precludes criminal or repulsive societal activity, then I do not think that there is one human who has a right to be critical of him again.. he has almost paid what the legal system prescribes in personal confinement and will still have another 3 years to show a different person… I think that he will probably surprise most people as he is not a bad person; maybe misguided in some ways and has walked a path that many before him have made and survived… give him room to decide how he wants to live the rest of his life and what contribution he will make to society…. what a judgemental society we have become..!!! sit back, close your eyes and put yourself or one of your family in his place and truly think it through… and for the scribes that want to crucify him further for press time and transparent validation, find something to write about that is informative and rewarding… don’t continue to fall under the soles of the old Vick…!!!!

Vick Supporter

May 17th, 2009
11:30 pm

Mike Vick. 2009 NFL MVP

Harper Collins

May 17th, 2009
11:35 pm

Mike Vick’s Life Story: From Teammate to INMATE

surfdawg

May 17th, 2009
11:39 pm

Vick supporter 2 You do know this was Matt’s first year right? He made it to the playoffs, your boy Mike did’nt. So bark at that.

Dr Soul

May 17th, 2009
11:39 pm

Life Story???? does not end with inmate… and, there have been a lot of people let back into and/or allowed to stay in the NFL that there are more reasons to keep out than Vick….he will be TEAMMATE again..!!!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 17th, 2009
11:44 pm

JOE FLACCO’S 1ST SEASON = 2-PLAYOFF WINS & CHAMPIONSHIP GAME…..

ANYMORE EXCUSES FOLKS :)

surfdawg

May 17th, 2009
11:49 pm

What did Vick do his first year? So by your own account that makes Matt Ryan and Joe Flaco better than Vick.

Dr. Warren

May 17th, 2009
11:50 pm

I agree with everything you say but that Vick lacked toughness and resolve. The guy took some hits that would have killed an ordinary guy but kept going. He also willed the Falcons to victory himself on more than several occasions. Good guy? No. Leader? No. But let’s be precise with the adjectives, Jeff.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
12:00 am

JOE FLACCO = 2-PLAYOFF WINS & CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

MIKE VICK – 2-PLAYOFF WINS & CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

MATT RYAN “LEAF” = 0-PLAYOFF WINS & 0-CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES

HAVE A NICE DAY :)

Shelt99

May 18th, 2009
12:01 am

A part of living is making mistakes. Many people and professional sportmen have done far worse things than Vick. He is human and he has paid for his mistakes. Lets not forget we had a president that did coke.

Dr Soul

May 18th, 2009
12:04 am

Ryan will fare well in the years to come….don’t throw him under the
train just yet…!!!

Michelle

May 18th, 2009
12:07 am

As long as Mike Vick has GOD in his life he’ll do just fine….Prayerfully he’ll be able to return to playing with the NFL and all his wrong doings will be behind him………There is too much going on in the world to concentrate on what he’s going to do….he made a bad decision as we all have; let’s move on people, keep him in prayer – LET IT GO….

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:09 am

So Vick supporter 2 You refuse to compare apples to apples when you are called out and start repeating yourself instead. That tells me all I need to know about you.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:14 am

I was a huge Vick fan but he let me down when he put himself first over the falcons and the fans. Fool me once shame on you . Fool me twice shame on me.

lololo

May 18th, 2009
12:16 am

Ray Lewis is the poster child of the NFL.. Leonard Little still draws a paycheck. Christian Peter was signed by an NFL team. Lawrence Phillips got paid by someone. I could go on and on and on. Yet, Michael Vick is a villian and people have decided that he should never be allowed to earn a living again. There is just something very wrong with that reasoning, I’m sorry..

Curious George

May 18th, 2009
12:23 am

Why are so few of the people on here who support Mr. Vick able to write, spell or communicate in English?

Would any of these people support Vick after the crimes he has committed if he were not famous and/or (formerly) rich?

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:28 am

Whats your point curious george?

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:29 am

If Vick was’nt famous we would have never heard about it.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:36 am

lololo I think he has a right to make a living and play in the NFL. I far as I’m concerned he paid his debt to society.I just don’t want him with the Falcons. I think the quarterback we have now will be a much better all around quarterback than Vick would have ever been.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
12:37 am

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:38 am

Vick suppoerter 2 do you have anything to repeat at this time?

DIZZLE D

May 18th, 2009
12:42 am

OKAY EVERYONE, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO KOBE WAS ACCUSED OF RAPING A HOTEL EMPLOYEE – HE’S FORGIVEN – RAY LEWIS [MURDERER?] – FORGIVEN – SAME THING FOR MV AS SOON AS HE HAS THAT 1ST GREAT GAME. OH BY THE WAY JS, PLEASE DELETE THE COMMENTS BY PEOPLE WHO CAN’T SPELL, PLEASE!

Nique

May 18th, 2009
12:44 am

Ppl forget Vick NEVER HAD ANY RECIEVERS! White SUCKED while Vick was here, Jenkins made his 1st real strides last year & Alge was his ONLY relaible target, until Vick’s last year when he really went down heel, which is why he wasn’t resigned the year after! The falcons were in the top 5 in the league in drops 2 of his lat 3 years as QB, so when ppl look at his completion percentage that should be factored in as well, as well as the fact that White & Jenkins got NO seperating their 1st few years & as stated about when they did, it was a toss up as to if they were gonna catch the ball. Robiski wasn’t here yet & he’s done wonders with both guys. All that is to say, Vick was a much better QB, not just runner, than ppl give him credit for, now with that said, he was still to inaccurate & needs to really focus on that aspect & reading Defenses better in his return attempt, but hell, 90 % of the Qb’s in the leauge have those same things that they need 2 focus on. Poiint blank, Vick is a STARTING QB in this league & hopefully someone will stick their neck out & allow him to reward them for it. This Vick is gonna be a student of the game & apply himself like never b4, which is unfortunate that it took this, but it’s a reality & a necessity now, watch & see! I hope he goes to S.F.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
12:47 am

Right on, Nique

Mr. Obvious

May 18th, 2009
12:47 am

Vick lacks the basic human intelligence to play QB in the NFL. Sadly, though, Vick is still marginally more intelligent than the majority of his “supporters.”

DIZZLE D

May 18th, 2009
12:50 am

BY THE WAY, I’M NOT A MV FAN – HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL – NOT IN THE ATL – LET HIM BE SOMEONE ELSE’S PROJECT. ALSO, COULD YOU DELETE THE BAD GRAMMER COMMENTS, TOO?

Blank sux

May 18th, 2009
12:51 am

Anybody else get the feeling that somehow that snake Blank is trying to maneuver Vick into the Falcons game plans.

Najeh Davenpoop

May 18th, 2009
12:53 am

Do y’all really, really think successful NFL QBs have above-average intelligence?

Like, the same way doctors, lawyers, engineers, pilots, and astronauts have above-average intelligence?

Really?

Playing QB is about instinct. Seeing that the defense is showing blitz and audibling to a hot route is something an eight-year-old can do. I’m as big a Vick supporter as anyone and I fully agree with those of you who say he’s a complete idiot. But you’re a damn fool too if you think the likes of Brett Favre have any more real-world intelligence than him.

And you’re also a damn fool if you think anyone is giving up anything, even a 7th-rounder, in exchange for Vick with that contract on the books and his playing status up in the air. Dimitroff would have to be a miracle worker to find a way to get something in return for him. Most likely he gets cut and signs with someone else as a free agent.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
12:56 am

Yeah Schultz and DELETE THE COMMENTS BY ANYONE WHO’S ID STARTS WITH THE WORD DIZZLE ! Did I spell that right?

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
1:01 am

By the way Dizzy d I might not be a college graduate but can you build a house?

DIZZLE D

May 18th, 2009
1:06 am

SORRY SURFDAWG, THAT COMMENT WAS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU – I HOPE THE ‘DAWG’ MEANS YOU ARE A UGA FAN.

e.hall of fame

May 18th, 2009
1:12 am

Old School here is your honest answer. Before your conviction there are hundred of thousand of people who could be a millwright/industrial mechanice at the level you were at. Before Vick’s conviction there were 32 people in the world who could do what Vick did. So it is a case of supply and demand. The demand for your skill set is easily fill with an overwhelming supply of qualified candidates. The demand for NFL QB’s is high but the supply is low especially with many teams having QB issues.

gp295

May 18th, 2009
1:12 am

It seem funny that the children and grandchildren of people who hung other because of the color of their skin is complaining about the abuse of dogs, they say forget what happen it was a long time ago, it happen. The children and grandchildren of slavery wants to be forgiven but no one else in society deserve this chance. Let see what happen with Mr. American who stole 65 billions dollar and peta and no one else have a problem with it. Because that the amercian ways to steal or take your way up the ladder, screw them every one accept the white man is dumb. In the bible its say dont commit adulety, chipper jone commits A. and is a Atlanta hero race plays a part in every things white do in the south but no one will admit it.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
1:20 am

That’s cool, and yes I am. Looking forward to this season. I think Cox and the rest of the Dawgs are going to be just fine. Oh and sorry about the house comment. I’m sure you could build a great house. GO DAWGS !

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
1:27 am

GP295 you hit the nail on the head.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
1:34 am

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
1:48 am

Hey Schultz do I have time to crack a few more jokes on GP295 ’s post before you pull it?

David Smith

May 18th, 2009
1:56 am

Michael Vick made a mistake that he has paid for many times over already. I believe he shouldn’t have done a day of jailtime and that he was used as a pawn for various groups who still want to take away his livelihood. I have moved on from that horrible memory of the 2007 season and, have embraced Matt Ryan as our new leader and wish other fans/protestors would do the same. I wish Vick the best of luck as he tries to resume his career in the NFL and, hope that he uses this second chance to prove the many negative things said by fans/protestors wrong (some people should think before they judge another person).

Skee

May 18th, 2009
1:59 am

It is very interesting to see everyone’s opinion on this issue. It just looks like it’s never gonna die. You can’t fault Vick for the team’s downfall at that time. You see that I said the word TEAM. When you hope and depend on one person to win at a team game, you’re in trouble. I think the organization has learned from the mistakes they’ve made and has the team moving in the right direction. Hopefully, Mike has learned from his mistakes.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
2:04 am

David you no you are the only one making a serious post at 2 am don’t you.That was well said.

Skee

May 18th, 2009
2:07 am

Was his arrest more about the gambling or the killing of dogs?

ken barrett

May 18th, 2009
2:11 am

A felony and bankrupt.I don’t know many Fortune 500 that would hire that. The guy killed dogs. If you have one, you know what I mean. Alot of us are just trying to make ends meet and they want to pay this guy big $$$. He’s a dime a dozen. Look at his brother. The apples don’t fall far from the tree. I am so tired of the give him a chance BS. You try and smuggle dope too and see what happpens.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
2:16 am

Boy Ken you don’t forget anything do you.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
2:20 am

I mean it was brilliant the way you were able to wrap Vicks whole family in there with the apple and the tree analogy. You get a GOLD STAR tonite Ken !!

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
2:37 am

Alright I have to go to bed but it’s been fun .Remember keep it clean or Schultz will shut this thing down and he means it. He’s not playing around. Now move over Schultz I’m coming to bed.

mark

May 18th, 2009
2:54 am

Let the boy get on with his career, cleaning up job sites.LOL college has served him well. a scholarship is a terrible thing tp waste.

David Smith

May 18th, 2009
4:50 am

Thanks surfdawg (yes i’m still up). I just wish that people would learn to forget and forgive. Yes what mike did was wrong but, he is still paying for a crime when Leonard Little (killed a person while DUI), Adam “Pac Man” Jones (a security chief is paralyzed from the waist down after taking a bullet because of Pac Man tried to “make it rain” in a strip club), and Ray Lewis (and two other men) was involved in a dispute at a night club in Buckhead that left two men dead. Those players are still playing (Pac Man won’t for long if he doesn’t straighten up) but, their offenses are forgiven while Vick continues to be used as a poster child of what’s wrong with sports today.i hope and pray that mike will use his second chance wisely (if he doesn’t THEN he deserves your scorn).

Bewildered

May 18th, 2009
4:53 am

I have an enigma for all of you to ponder. Why do you think opinions and feelings about Michael Vick differ along racial lines. Just give it some thought. In our not too distant past, it was fashionable to believe and to propagate negative misconceptions of one race by the other(black and white). Are we all really disgusted at Vick’s actions or are we all disgusted with Vick? If so, why? How many of us were actually pulling for Vick to fail…and why? Jimmy The Greek once said “blacks lack the necessities to lead”. Therefore, playing QB was out of the question. Why did Warren Moon have to play five years in Canada? My sincerest wish is that we judge based on deeds alone. But our history tells me that is too much to ask.

DLANE

May 18th, 2009
5:29 am

Mike Vick has done his time. Therefore he’s even with the house. If I had one wish. It would be for him to get with a team, that has to play the Falcons. I then would wish for him to have the best game of his career. With Mr.Schultz in attendance of course. He killed some dogs. If any of you are really care that much about dog fighting. Google Floyd Boudreaux. He has been and still is. A major contributor to many local and national political campaigns. But then again. Floyd Boudreaux is a old white guy. Hell he can do whatever he wants to do.

Ryanreallyis#2

May 18th, 2009
6:13 am

Well Jeff, good job! I’m sure this is what the AJC wanted! Will you guys run stories all week long! Probably have a special edition – in full color out on Wed and on Sunday – with special commentary from Neal Boortz! Gotta get them all RILED up now! Will the AJC devote an entire section to Vick for the rest of 2009? Probably, its not like you can get this kind of attention for any current Falcon! I know the AJC is desperate to increase their numbers so why not use the one person who guarantees a spike!

Ryanreallyis#2

May 18th, 2009
6:17 am

On VS2, you can best believe the rapib heartbeating you hear is the haters who know realize the fallacy in their quest to try and keep Vick down….he’s not even 30 yet and OUT. So they realize the worst possible scenario has happened….A GREAT COME BACK. That will pierce them more than if he had been given the TOOLS to succeed before. Now they have to bear witness to him coming back and watching their little Todd’s and Noel’s ask for the new #7 jersey and once again watch him become the NFL’s prime highlight reel. They created a martyr. LOL…haters always do.

bull-gator

May 18th, 2009
7:07 am

Who really cares about this loser? Any NFL executive that takes a chance on this characterless punk is a complete screwball. Hey Al Davis, this could be another great addition to the silver and black. Anybody remember Warren Wells?

Ross

May 18th, 2009
7:20 am

Anyone who would organize and then enjoy a dog-fighting operation is so narcissistic and sociopathic that it’s almost certainly true that recovery, whatever that would mean, is impossible. That person is not going to suddenly realize that the Universe was not created around him. That person is going to use his main skill, manipulation of everyone in sight, to get what he wants. That person is going to be THAT person for the rest of his life. A crime this repugnant should get a lifetime ban from the NFL. Lacking that, I literally cannot wait to see the sh*tstorm that is about to beset MV7’s vacuum empty head and coal black heart. Let the flogging begin – and consider what sort of diseased enterprise is modern pro sports. We should not be having this conversation.

-drl

null

May 18th, 2009
7:25 am

Hey Vick….training is easy. When the buzzer goes off, dump the fries under the heat lamp, put a little salt on them, and wait for your manager to tell you what size somebody ordered.

Ken

May 18th, 2009
7:50 am

I’m in Atlanta now, but I used to live and work in Newport News, VA in 2006 where I volunteered at the local humane society. I’ve seen those fight dogs victims come into the shelters. These sweet mixed breed pit bulls were terrified and trembling with their faces and bodies all cut up and scarred.

Sadly these dogs had to be put down despite the fact that they were very docile as any dog given the tag of “fight dog” could not be adopted.

My eyes tear up as I remember how horrible that situation was. Until you have seen it first hand, you really cant comprehend what a horror the whole thing is.

Vick is a monster. He may have served some prison time but he’s nothing but a cold blooded killer.

Do you want your children to admire someone like that ? Vick needs to go away forever.

Scott

May 18th, 2009
7:53 am

I just think its so cool that VS2 discovered little smiley faces for his post! He probably looked for a different color but couldn’t find it!

al sharptongue

May 18th, 2009
8:00 am

Jeff you should not delete the so called racists threads. these people are expressing their freedom of speech and though we may not like it. I think it lets us know what people are really thinking and howuthey frame a particular issue..They are speaking from the heart and being honest so you may not like it but it is the way they see life and these people do exist so let them be.

jakedsnake

May 18th, 2009
8:12 am

Vick Supporter/Athletic Supporter, or whatever you call yourself. Regarding Roddy White. It’s called TOUCH. Something Vick couldn’t put on a football if his life depended on it. Not to mention that the ball spins backwards from a lefty. Vick might get another chance but he’ll blow that too. His sandlot ball style has no place in the NFL.

jakedsnake

May 18th, 2009
8:15 am

There’s always people a lot worse than Vick though…. Bob from Winder needs to be watched carefully. The idot even spells his first name backwards. He spells it Bob rather than Bob…..

Zizzle

May 18th, 2009
8:30 am

I hope Peter from family guy doesn’t bring Vick over for dinner! Brian will have to bolt!

Rico

May 18th, 2009
8:32 am

You know, many of these same people whom are scorning Vick for trying to return to the NFL are nothing but Hypocrits. They too have done things wrong in their life and expects others to give them a chance. The majority of these people responding negatively to Vick in my opinion have never liked him even before his troubles.

Sometimes we have to let go and see what happens next. Be careful how you treat Vick and others like him because you might be the next one to be judged.

Rico Niles (Kissimmee, FL)

May 18th, 2009
8:36 am

Get Better Michael!

Mac

May 18th, 2009
8:38 am

The Texans gave a big contract to a big free agent QB nobody else wanted, maybe they’d like the Vick-Schaub drama, too.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
8:38 am

that should have been “bad free agent QB.” Monday morning.

Joey Porter

May 18th, 2009
8:39 am

damn ajc still talking about vick? This is why he will be back. Besides who said going to prison stops you from playing in the league?

Ahmad bradshaw, donte stallworth, and adrian mcpherson are two examples of why rodger has to lift the suspension

How many articles have been written about him?

Vick will be fine now all you grown men need to stop talking about another grown man’s business.

Come on don’t you folks have pitiful and miserable lives to attend to.

If folks do not gripe about being screwed by both parties what makes you think they will gripe about mike vick.

At least vick didn’t offer a reward for the ears of a human being.

he bought the dogs he sure as well can do what he wants with them. It’s his property.

Enough of the closet communists and their communist agenda. MV7 is entitled life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness because this is what all real americans believe.

You communists can go hang in cuba.

Sun Tzu 7

May 18th, 2009
8:57 am

My concern with Vick is his understanding of what the situation is going to be.

Vick’s #1 concern is going to be making $$$ because he’s going to be several million in debt and I don’t think his earning potential is anywhere close to what he thinks it is. For example in his bankruptcy hearing didn’t they propose he was going to make several million a year from the NFL?

I think his NFL situation will be closer to Ricky Williams than people think. I believe Ricky is making close to the minimum and I think Vick will be also.

Let’s aslo keep one things in mind. He’s going to be on probabtion as a federal felon so the rules are going to be different for him. If he fails a drug test he doesn’t just get suspended… he may have to go back to prision. If he gets a DUI he may go back to prison.

Any team is going to take this into consideration so his contract isn’t going to be loaded and will probably be close to the vet minimum with lots of incentives.

I hope he does turn it around but it’s not going to be easy for him…. not at all.

eBuzz

May 18th, 2009
9:00 am

The Michael Vick saga has many facets riveting to both sides. Even prior to his conviction, he was controversial, vilified or adored, and a box office draw regardless. And, it is the latter that may ultimately play a role in the NFL and Roger Goodell’s decision on reinstatement, because when the chips are down, it’s all about money, and the NFL has a steady history of hypocrisy. They will rapidly ban those that dare gamble, such as Art Schlicter, Alex Karras, and Paul Hornung “to protect the integrity of the game”, but anything else is totally acceptable, murder, drugs, drugs, drugs, (did I mention drugs?), rape, robbery, as long as the perpetrators generate revenue. The NFL, like the other professional and college sports, simply has no moral compass, and as such they are far more despicable than the corporate America that is being bashed by the media and current government as being “greedy”. At least most of corporate America still rapidly addresses grievous and illegal transgressions by dismissal, but not the sports entities. Talk about runaway priorities.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
9:04 am

Mike Vick a QB!! HA! HA! HA! I just love how idiots try to defend this guy! He let his team and fans down himself, no one forced him to do anything unlawful! Get real people, Vick screwed you over and you want to set back and place the blam on his coaches, the owner, blaa blaa blaa!! I’m ashamed that I defended this thug the last 3 years he was a Falcon and has to eat alot of crow when he walked into that court room amd con”vick”ed. I hope he never steps on an NFL field again. And I’m 100% sure he want!!

falconman

May 18th, 2009
9:07 am

I’d like to send out a big THANK-YOU to the former Falcon’s season ticket holder for giving up his seats. After Arthur Blank hired Thomas Dimitroff, I decided the time was right to buy tickets. We had a blast last year watching the Birds go 7-1 (at home) from the 40 yard line. And take it from me, the fans at the GA Dome did not miss Michael Vick at all.

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 18th, 2009
9:10 am

LOL @ “What!!!”…yeah he “want”…exactly!! LMAO The inbreds are hilarious! Guess what haters! You never figured on the Come back!! You created a martyr! Kudos! Now get ready to hear the complaints of how the national sports media pays the Falcons little to NO attention again….but what you SHOULD complain about is how your local paper will give more coverage to the FORMER QB than the present one! Your local AJC newsletter will devote as much coverate to Mike Vick as ESPN. Who can blame them though? He sells!

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 18th, 2009
9:12 am

Falconman the TV didn’t lie…neither does the official attendance count from ESPN. The GA Dome missed on average 9,000 people who USED to be there. LOL! I know you wished such statistics weren’t available but guess what! THEY DO! Oh…and guess which playoff game had the lowest viewing since 1999? Yep! The Falcons road loss to the Cardinals! Apparently, the “hunt” is on for a reason! Operators are STANDING BY and FALLING ASLEEP!

John Hancock

May 18th, 2009
9:13 am

I think Vick should be allowed back in the NFL. However, I can assure you that he isn’t the least bit remorseful about his dog fighting activities; he only regrets getting caught. Dog fighting is part of his culture, it’s part of who he is, and for him there’s nothing wrong with it.

michaelgee

May 18th, 2009
9:19 am

for Vick Supporter 2, it isn’t about HATE, it is about the disappointment that an entire City got for supporting someone who doesn’t have RESPECT for anybody or anything. Your guy is NOT the guy we all thought he was, your guy is a deeply troubled man who fails to make rational decisions.
You can call it HATE if that makes you feel better but it really is about the FAILURE of Michael Vick as an adult MAN.

JG

May 18th, 2009
9:31 am

Those of you calling Michael Vick a worthless “thug”, stupid, etc….are just as bad as him in my opinion. Unless Vick has stolen your dog and killed it, I imagine you’ve never met him.

You probably also don’t live in Newport News and have children who benefitted from Vick’s contributions to the Boys and Girls clubs.

It’s like anything else. If you have an agenda of hate, you’ll only look at the negatives. For those who are fair and balanced, and want to see it, you’ll find that Vick was giving, his teammates really loved him, and he was popular with them and children in the community.

What he did was horrible and surprising to those who saw the good in him before.

I’m not saying he should be GIVEN anything…he has to EARN back respect and a measure of dignity.

The ones not willing to give him a CHANCE are the ones who are WRONG NOW!!

PMC

May 18th, 2009
9:49 am

The question here is why? Why are people STILL up in arms about it. They got justice. He paid an incredibly steep fine and he did time in prison with all that goes along with that. Falcons fans have moved on. Dog fighting got a face and many in that illicit industry have been incarcerated. Why is Habitat for Humanity turning him down? Really? Charities are turning him away? Ok, he committed a crime and he did the time… now let him come back and try to redeem himself. Who honestly has the time to waste “protesting” Michael Vick… Really? Seriously… NOW? People are STILL upset?

PMC

May 18th, 2009
9:50 am

If he wants to come out and do good in the community let him… even if it is for selfish reasons to try and get back in the good graces of the NFL… Hopefully he will continue to try and do good things in the community. I don’t understand the hatred now. It’s not like he got away with anything.

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
9:56 am

EddieDawg: I don’t think supporting Vick makes you insane. Like I said, everybody has a right to support or not support MV.

Mr Obvious: It’s not just intelligence. It’s maturity and work ethic and coolness. Trust me, I’ve covered a lot of QBs who weren’t very “smart” but they were successful because they studied and worked hard.

Blank: Won’t happen.

Joey: Communists?

FormerSeasonTix: No question the team lost season tickets when Vick went to prison. But I also think if the team continues to win (as it did last year), crowds will comeback. Ultimately, it’s about winning.

Dr Soul

May 18th, 2009
9:56 am

I think that it is scary that ‘Bob from Winder’ is the role model for raising a kid..!!!! to the ‘former ticket holder’, good for you, as no team deserves a ‘fair weather fan’… to these ‘Monday morning psychologists’ who have diagnosed Vick as sick, troubled, etc.., you need to find a new profession or look deeply in the mirror of your own soul… JG got it right and I doubt anyone on here would survive a glass house.. there are some very sad and judgemental people, who at the same time call themselves fans, citizens, christians, etc… how easy to criticize someone when you have some very basic and misguided assumptions and probably cannot even delve deeply into the ENTIRE situation to understand the issues… I pray that none of you are ever held in total judgement forever for your worst mistake.. really pathetic on some of the blogs here..

Kat68

May 18th, 2009
10:01 am

Mike Vick has paid his debt to society. Stop the hate forgive, mike is still a person he deserve a second chance. My family and friends can’t wait until he plays again. We believe mike really is sorry he has learned from his mistake. We believe when he plays this time he still will be excellent in football. God is with you mike as long as he has forgiven you that all matters. In this life you will people for you, you will have people against you. Focus on the ones who are for you, pray for the ones that have unforgiveness in there hearts.

leggomyego

May 18th, 2009
10:03 am

I’d much rather be talking about training camp. Or tacos. I love tacos. Or just about anything other than this subject. It’s a tired old debate where the sides have been clearly drawn between the folks that can’t wait to see Vick again and the folks that still carry the wounds of what his behavior did to our franchise. Me personally, I’m over it. Let the man look for a job in the league, maybe they’ll let him and maybe he’ll find one. Sooner the better if you ask me, so he can become another franchises’ athlete belonging to another newspaper so THAT rag can post discussion blogs about him. As for me, i’d rather talk about tacos. C’mon folks, let’s force change of subject here: Who likes tacos?

FALCONS SORRY

May 18th, 2009
10:04 am

AUTHOR BLANK! YOU ARE A LOW DOWN SORRY SNAKE FOR THE WAY YOU DONE VICK! PLANE OLD SORRY! VICK IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO ATL! ALL VICK EVER DID WAS MAKE THE SORRY FALCONS WINNERS WHILE HE HERE AND YOU ALL HATE HIM FOR IT! VICK NEVER HURT NOBODY! NONE YALL! VICK GOING TO COME BACK AND WIN THE SUPPER BOWL FOR ANOTHER TEAM THAT APPRESHEATE HIM FOR THE SUPPER STAR HE HIS AND MAKE BLANK GO BROKE AND CRY IN HIS HOMEDEPOT APRIN. BLANK IS SORRY FOR THE SORRY WAY HE THROWED MIKE VICK AWAY LIKE TRASH! THOSE OF US THAT ARE TRUE FANS LOVE YOU MIKE!!

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
10:08 am

FALCONS SORRY: Arthur Blank didn’t do anything to Michael Vick. Vick was charged, indicted and arrested, pled to a crime and went to jail. What does Arthur Blank have to do with any of that? Was he supposed to break him out of prison? Bake him a cake with a nail file in it. Plus, Vick lied to his face REPEATEDLY, which is an interesting way to repay a man who gave you a $130 million contract.

T.C

May 18th, 2009
10:09 am

Scottbravesfan your not black so don’t pretend to be.Go back and read your comment(all of black people who came to his defense).stop being fake and just comment.You are really a coward because you sit behind a keyboard and lie like everybody knows who you are.there’s nothing wrong with your oppinion because thats just what it is an oppinion.All the oppinions on this blog rather its positive or negetive dont make what you say is true.Matthew 15:18 says,what ever a man speaks comes from the heart and it defiles a man(hatred).

Erin

May 18th, 2009
10:15 am

It breaks my heart to see what the legal system in this country does to families. What about Vick’s prison husband who will be left behind once MV7 is released? Nobody should be abandoned like that.

Dr Soul

May 18th, 2009
10:18 am

What happened to the day when a man made a mistake (no matter how he got there), apologized, paid his pentance and then made an effort to be a better citizen and everyone rallied around to support him…provided him a renewed faith in living a better life, cheered him on and wished him a great recovery and was happy for him to achieve a better life.. because they were just solid and secure people and could give from themselves without thought of rewards for themselves…

Reid Adair

May 18th, 2009
10:19 am

“You people keep saying that Roddy got better when Vick left,lol. I f any of you watched the games, Roddy dropped so many passes that were right in his hands, also, Roddy himself ADMITTED that he didn’t know how to play WR in the NFL at the time, or how to prepare. He learned this from Petrino, of all people. Roddy is good now because RODDY DEVELOPED AS A WR. I gurantee, you will turn on Roddy again, yet you’ll never blame Ryan for anything and we all know why. I saw no one saying ANYTHING about his arm looking like a noodle in week 10,lol. Redemption is near…..ON WEDNESDAY,LMAO.”

This may be the worst comment I have read on this blog post. In a season where he had THREE different starting quarterbacks, Roddy White had more yards and his TWO YEARS with Michael Vick. It has EVERYTHING to do with the quarterback, and it was not to the credit of Bobby Petrino in any way, shape or form.

When you have a quarterback who reads routes and can make timing throws, it’s entirely different than one who just says, “Go deep and I’ll throw it to you.”

John Madden

May 18th, 2009
10:22 am

There are many comparisons on here of Vick to other famous/infamous players. WIthout question, MIKE VICK will be:

A . ) The next QUINCY CARTER

B . ) The next RICKY WILLIAMS

C . ) The next RAY LEWIS

D . ) The next VINCE YOUNG

E. ) The next BIG MISTAKE for some misfortunate NFL Franchise

leggomyego

May 18th, 2009
10:23 am

Hey FALCONS SORRY, I too would love to Win the SUPPER BOWL. If that bowl were filled with Tacos. Mmmmmm Tacos. Is that what we’re having for SUPPER in SUPPER BOWL? Tacos?

And i think you’re caps lock button is on. Might wanna check that.

ERich42

May 18th, 2009
10:28 am

Yep looks like the racist cowards will come out of thier hiding on Wednesday and start the hate for this man. Please keep in mind he has done his time and as far as I am concern he owes the public nothing. As far as Goddell saying he needs to show remorse that is a bunch of BS. That is just he throwing his weight around. So to Arthur and the fans in Atlanta who turn thier back on him I really hope he comes back to Atlanta and show everyone what we once had.One last thing I am sure Vick does not want a hug from you Mr. Blank you are a fake.

Mavis Beacon

May 18th, 2009
10:33 am

For someone who is without a college degree, has sub-par reading & communication skills, is no longer eligible to run for public office, cannot join law enforcement by being unable to possess a firearm, has repeatedly demonstrated low intelligence and dishonesty with his previous employer and the fact that many companies refuse to hire convicted FELONS for high-paying positions, it is not a very bright future for Mr. Vick after football.

Bob Caffey

May 18th, 2009
10:33 am

As a dog lover I never condoned this behaviour, however one must let an individual repent their sins and allow forgiveness. He who has not sinned cast the 1st stone is what I always heard or people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I hope we are a bigger people. The governor of Alabama repented, why cannot Michael Vick?

Dr Soul

May 18th, 2009
10:42 am

Supes….by chance, are you married to Mavis????

leggomyego

May 18th, 2009
10:43 am

Crunchy Tacos or Soft Shell tacos? I like crunchy the best, but i know i ain’t turning my back on a soft shell neither! Do you guys ever get them ‘Fresco style?’ Oh brother, they replace the cheese with this pico de gallo/ salsa type stuff… pretty tasty, I gotta admit.

All I'm Saying Is...

May 18th, 2009
10:43 am

Vick has been convicted and served his time. Now he will have to live with what he did for the rest of his life. People who hate what he did and do not want it forgiven or forgotten (whether PETA or others) can follow him around and remind all of what he did if they so choose. (However, if you are a religious person, then endlessly persecuting someone for their mistake or sin is not what faith teaches.)

Vick does not have a right to play in the NFL. Goodell, however, will likely have to reinstate him or be subject to a lawsuit given that Vick has paid his debt to society.

Vick can try to make a team if any team is willing to deal with the likely protests (large or small in number, it doesn’t matter). And I think it would be the highest form of hypocrisy for the NFL, Goodell, and the teams to allow persons to try out for their teams who have in their actions or negligence killed people but not allow Vick to do so.

(And Schultz, eager to keep his job and appear relevant, milked another column out of the subject and got all of us to comment on it…and I’m sure he will do it again because this will remain newsworthy …(even if many of us have moved on and do not care about MV, which is our right and is a matter of a lack of interest not a question of ‘arrogance’ — dumbest post (by Lou) I’ve read in a long time))

Eroc

May 18th, 2009
10:50 am

Jeff- Why do you write in a lampooned sports city I cringe at your byline everytime i see it because i know it is going to be something negative form a journalist with bitter feelings that he never made it to the supposed big time. I cant stand the things you said about vick how about you let him be he didnt kill a human being he fought dogs kinda like you fight cocks in your garage. Just let him be he did pay his debt to society and Peta and you half witted jurnalist and TV announcers should just let him be and play ball. Have you not let this go because there is a dark corner you crawl to and avoid asking forgiveness for some past indiscretions.

sad brotha

May 18th, 2009
10:51 am

I remember Vick as the guy who gave the fans “the finger,” admitted to not giving 100% and one of his “posse” stole a watch at an airport gate. With the coaches admitting he didn’t have the mental capacity to know all of the plays and read defenses (hence the lack of audibles) I don’t feel sorry for the “weed toker.” Oh yeah… I forgot to ad LIAR to his dope smoking resume!

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
10:51 am

leggomyego, i LOVE tacos and think i am going to have them for dinner tonight, or hell im going to eat them for lunch today. YYYYYUUUUUUMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
10:52 am

Best Tacos in Atlanta for you legomyego?

oh and Vick should be shot, plain and simple.

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
10:54 am

WOW Bob, you are about to get kicked off the blog…see ya and eat some tacos, they will calm you down.

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 18th, 2009
10:57 am

No Jeff Shultz didn’t write that bull… that “he GAVE Vick a $130 mill contract”…if that’s not the fallacy of the year, I don’t know what is. GAVE?? Are you serious? How much money did Vick bring into this franchise? This CITY? You have GOT to be kidding with that “GAVE” comment. No, GAVE would be what Matt Ryan got. EARNED and SHORTCHANGED would be what Vick got…or do I need to go and pull the Forbes valuations of NFL teams for every year for the last decade? Do I need to point out the amount of money made FOR this franchise off jersey sales of ONE guy on the team that accounted for 80% of all team merchandise SOLD? GAVE?? Seriously Shultz, what’s that “GAVE” comment really about?

EW

May 18th, 2009
10:57 am

Personally, I KNOW teams will want Vick, if only for the same reason that Buffalo wanted TO. The NFL is a BUSINESS and Vick, like TO will fill seats, sell jerseys, and generate hype. It doesn’t matter if TO or Vick aren’t clubhouse guys or if they bring a media circus with them. They will be wanted as long as they generate cash flow. And I am over people crucifying Vick over this. The man broke the law, did his time, and now just wants to go back to work, is that so bad? And what about Dante Stallworth, didn’t he get drunk and KILL somebody with his car? Where are the MADD picket lines for him? Where is the racial criticism of him? People need to get over this Vick thing and let the man live his life.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
10:58 am

Forever season vicket blower, thanks for the typo corrections. I guess I shouldn’t work and try to complain about the biggest mistake this franchise has ever made in drafting Vick. What still amazes me is that Matt Ryan really did prove what it is like to have a true QB in Atlanta. So that major screw-up in Vick was corrected in ONE SEASON and MORE TO COME!! Vick’s last 24 games ended with 10 wins and 14 losses! Glad that kind of QB play has left Atlanta FOREVER! What has Vick really done for the NFL? Answer me Former season ticket holder! Hurry! Can’t think of anything? No, can’t you do better than that! Stop….don’t say it……..”Vick won at Lambough” you silly jerk, you know you were thinking it! HA! HA! HA!

Sick Falcons Fans

May 18th, 2009
11:00 am

Happy Schultz? You bought out the crazies just like the editor wanted! Do you guys at the AJC have a weeklong worth of blogs to post about Vick to keep the inbreds all riled up?? I’m sure you do. Hopefully another round of layoffs for this rag is just around the corner. The AJC truly deserves its financial plight.

peter777

May 18th, 2009
11:02 am

Serious hate of Michael Vick is being spewed forth here. If Michael Vick has truly asked God for forgiveness and has turned his life around, then, before God, it is a new day for him. God does not remember the sin. Neither should we. Is it not better that he be restored than forever damned by people?

leggomyego

May 18th, 2009
11:04 am

Kenny Powers: Best tacos in ATL? Man that’s a good one… You know i’m always rockin’ the BELL, but i do enjoy those sit down fancy ‘enjoy a margarita with my tacos’ places too. I live out of ATL, in North Georgia, so I’m not privy to all the great tacos in the metro, ya’ll will have to clue me in. I’d love to get some input on this from other people.. Best tacos in ATL everybody… Where?

Also i’ll be having them for lunch today too now that I’ve talked so much about them. And Bob definitely needs some tacos. See how grumpy he is? No tacos… Somebody get me some of those red shelled Volcano Tacos in here for Bob STAT!!

Best tacos for me =

NativeATLien

May 18th, 2009
11:04 am

i love all the thinly-veiled racist comments here. to all the perennial Vick-haters i say: i hope they trade him to a friggin NFC South team so you can eat Southern fried crow…. you people are weird.

let’s see what happens if Ryan gets hurt. it wouldn’t be pretty. we need Vick and jettison Shockley…

FirstFan

May 18th, 2009
11:05 am

Mick Vick has paid his debt and if you were anykind of American you would welcome him back to the world with open arms but you can`t because you are not an American you are part of a 1930s lynch mob. I guess the rope broke and it did not kill him so you are going to try to hang him again. PETA and animal right lovers you need to get a life and leave Mick Vick alone he don`t care what go on in your life why should worry about what goes on in his, Now eat on that when you finish your STEAK or TURKEY lunch or dinner and remember you just killed a ANIMAL.

Dr Soul

May 18th, 2009
11:07 am

I think ‘child services’ needs to visit Bob’s home in Winder

Sick Falcons Fans

May 18th, 2009
11:08 am

Like eddiedawg said…90% of these people posting are Vick FANS. If they didn’t care they wouldn’t bother, wouldn’t be interested…but as long as he can rile up their emotions like this, you can best believe he will be right back on the field this Sept. The NFL is a business, not a church. These same “I hate Vick!” freaks will be the main ones glued to the telly, so they can run to the blogs to holler about him. LOL Vick is all up in your heads haters! Why don’t you get emotional about your Golden Boy QB? He doesn’t inspire so much as a passing thought. Let the AJC put up a blog about him and its guaranteed to get about 5 comments.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
11:18 am

PETER777, your right God does forgive and forget sins. But what does that have to do with Vick playing in the NFL again? I mean, if you just got out of jail for bank robbery, should you be hired to work at a bank? I’m not condeming Vick for forgiven sins, it’s his bad QB playing that I keep remembering. Sure he had his highlight moments but when teams picked up on that Vick no longer had a chance in the NFL.

EW

May 18th, 2009
11:23 am

What!!! – hiring a bank robber to work at a bank? So you mean we shouldn’t hire Vick to work at a vet right? Ok, I’ll give you that one. Try to use examples that make sense.

Darrin "The Vent King"

May 18th, 2009
11:23 am

First, I pray that Vick takes his second chance and does something right with it. Having said that, it pains me to see the ugliness this whole situation has brought out in people. The whole “Falcon Experience” went from football (which I loved when it was JUST that) to personal moral beliefs AND football which took a lot of the fun out of it. At the games, on the Falcon’s message board, on ajc blogs, and in the sports bars it was the same thing over and over and over concerning Vick. Thing is, this did not just start when the dog-gate went down- it was like this before that and got ten times worse afterwards. Some of the things Vick did helped fuel that of course, the stollie Rollie, the weed bottle, the assumed blunt pic, the double-barrel salute to the fans, etc and dog-gate just finished things off. What I don’t get is the continued fervor of hate and contempt for this man. To have to watch PETA peeps stalk this man, which you know is coming, to the rabid fans itching to wear dog-collars and shout insults all make me wonder how much more civilized do the morally perfect and judgmental people consider themselves over the obvious morally wrong actions of Vick in the first place? In His eyes, hate is as big a crime as the one Vick committed and two wrongs do not make a right. I believe it is beyond okay to not be happy with what he did for it was terrible, but to spew hate over it to your fellow man when neither one of you had anything to do with or affected by said crime physically is an incredibly sorry waste of time. You’re adding to the pain of the whole situation by doing that IMO and thus the healing, which is the most important thing, can never truly began. It saddens me to come to the realization that this scar on this franchise will be prevalent for a lonnnnng time and some will NEVER let it go. I bet Arthur Blank feels the same way and hates that he will have to deal with this as long as he owns this franchise. This may be the first time that “time” actually won’t fully heal a wound and what a shame because a lot of people will be missing out on a really good football team that we have now…

GO FALCONS

Willie H

May 18th, 2009
11:24 am

Vick should have served 23 days in jail instead of 23 months for a crime that should be a misdemeanor. I hope he lands on his feet in San Fransisco or Minnesota or somewhere else.

EW

May 18th, 2009
11:25 am

and WHAT!!!- if you’re point is that Vick shouldn’t be hired because of bad play, then you are saying he’s the worst quarterback in the league, including all back ups??? If that’s the case then I agree, he shouldn’t be hired by a team, but you and I know that isn’t the case.

Ripped again.

May 18th, 2009
11:32 am

Go Away ! Go Away ! Vick did it to himself !

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
11:33 am

EW, 10-14 record is the case I’m making! You my friend should also use examples that make better sense.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
11:38 am

Ripped again, you sir are 100% CORRECT!

mano17

May 18th, 2009
11:41 am

thats a bunch of bs he did his time now give him a chance to redeem him self. also ray lewis killed two people and u people dont talk bout it . danny heatly killed his teammate and was drunk everybody forgave him,also mark sanchez raped a girl and it was swept under the rug . now u mean to tell me that all these were crimes against humans not animals. whats worse crimes against dogs or people? did madd go out and protest leonard little for vehicular homicide what about dante stallworth, or even patrick kerney, or what about johnathan babinex he killed his girlfriends dog wtih his bare hands and he is still on the team. it just dont addu people give mike a chance. and if u really want to know matt ryan on his best day is not a better qb than vick

ET

May 18th, 2009
11:53 am

Seems to me that a lot of posters on this blog are intentionally posting the opposite of what they really think. They want the readers to think that the other side is ignorant, racist or just plain insane. I’m not falling for it. I don’t read the “off the wall” posts, the capitalized posts or the novel length posts. Even after eliminating all of those posts there is still too much racial crap on this blog to waste my time with it. The Blog by Jeff was a timely one since Vick will be reentering football with a lot of baggage to overcome. Race will be one of those factors evidently.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
11:59 am

Jeff, when you respond, they win. Methinks FALCONS SORRY did punkith thee.

AGTFan

May 18th, 2009
11:59 am

I believe in the power of redemption. I hope and pray that MV has learned lessons from his mistakes and can finally realize his potential as a human being. I will be pulling for him to succeed as a human being. Football is secondary to that. Whether he is ever able to effectively participate in a professional sports again is fully dependent on his growth as a person. The MV we saw in the past, would stand little chance of success with the obstacles he has placed in his own way. I hope that he has grown enough to succeed. I can’t forgive his actions, but I can forgive the person.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
12:00 pm

Actually, I think that should be “punketh.” Sorry.

Hollywould

May 18th, 2009
12:01 pm

Good blog Darren/ I will be glad when it is all over. Let him play and all his followers can follow him to another town. I don’t know if some people on this blog are dumb, bigots, or just don’t get it. For you dimwits who think he will come back to the Falocns I have as much chance of playing QB for them as Vick does. VS2, anyone who was proven wrong so many times last year should shut up or leave no doubt how dumb they can be. I remember “Wait until they play the Bucs again, the saints again, blah,blah,blah. Always wrong. Please follow Vick wherever he goes and leave the true Falcon fans alone.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
12:09 pm

Oh, also, “pled,” is a made-up TV journalism non-word. The correct word is “pleaded.”

The opinionator

May 18th, 2009
12:18 pm

When this unfolded I, as a white man, was channel surfing when I came upon Tavis Smiley’s show and actually watched it since he was talking about the Vick issue.

Tavis said something that is just plain obvious for all to see. There is a big cultural divide between blacks and whites and their perceptions as to how a dog should be treated.

Whites shower their dogs, let them sleep in bed with them, pamper them as if they’re children. Go into a petsmart and you will see a lot of white people taking their dog around looking at what treats or toys to buy them. You don’t see any black people in petsmart pampering their dogs.

Blacks tend to treat dogs as if they’re not much more than say a chicken. Its just another animal to most black people. In my job I’ve been to hundreds of black and white homes in middle class and working class neighborhoods. In the black neighborhoods you see many dogs just chained up to 6 or 10 foot chains, dirty and ragged, basically just neglected.

Generally speaking, black people view dogs differently and just don’t take care of their animals like white people do. I’m sorry if that sounds racist but its just a fact of life. I’ve seen it, Tavis Smiley confirms it, and just general observation confirms it. Still don’t believe me? Turn on that animal channel 61 and watch the episodes on animal cops. 90% of the time they are investigating abused or neglected animals its in black neighborhoods and in virtually every dogfighting case its in black neighborhoods. And while there are certainly black people who humanely care for their beasts as a general rule blacks simply view animals differently and do no care for them in the same way white people do. I’m sorry if it sounds racist but it is what it is.

I do watch how people treat animals. They bible says something to the effect that you can judge a man’s character and kindness by how he treats and manages his beasts. I tend to agree. Since animals can’t communicate, can’t fight back, and are largely subject to the whims of their human master you can make a good judgement as to a person’s character by looking at how he or she treats his animals. Do they treat them in a caring, humane manner. Or do they ignore, neglect, and otherwise abuse the animal? Just something to think about.

Wink from Lithonia

May 18th, 2009
12:21 pm

Jeff this is a mean spirited column you have written here. There has got to be redemption at some point for Mike Vick. Let me say for the record that I don’t condone his actions. I am a pet owner myself and I can’t remember not having a dog for a pet over the last 27 years. I was no Mike Vick fan, I wanted to see him traded not locked up. My issue with him was his win/loss record you point out & his ability to pass the ball. That said this man has a right to make a living after paying his debt to society.

This article just stirs up old emotions & divides the Falson fan base. As a columnist, with a forum, I guess you have right to do your work as you see fit. I am speaking in protest of your work today. Mike Vick has a right to apply his trade (football player) in the forum that”s available to him. There will be detractors (Commissioner, teams) & protesters (PITA & sports columnists) regarding him coming back to play. They have a right to do so, as well. I as sure PITA has a whole programed agenda against any team that allows him to come to camp. After all, he’s their poster boy, which means it never over for them; the added media also keeps the embers burning…get my drift. Let the man compete for a job, surely the layoff may have hurt his skills, he already had flawed mechanics, as described in your column…..or could it be, there is a fear he may succeed in the right system and get full redemption…like say Ray Lewis, who was accused of murder; or the current NBA marquee guy Kobe Bryant, accused of rape, but now the NBA Commissioner (STERNS), is on his coat tail again. SEE REDEMPTION IS POSSIBLE.

All teams in the league will benefit, they share revenue, and MV7 had the number one selling jersey in all of NFL football (I never owned one) & he put fannies in the seats at HOME & AWAY… it my guess that if he get back in the league, despite all the detractors & protesters, Jeff Schultz will be in attendance too.

Bobby Dowell

May 18th, 2009
12:25 pm

I just look forward to the day when he is no longer linked to this franchise. SO very tired of hearing about it.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
12:31 pm

PITA = People for the (Icky, Indifferent, Intelligent, Isopropyl) Treatment of Animals?

Todd

May 18th, 2009
12:36 pm

And out former present went to war on a blatant lie; many people on both sides dies and continue to die. The current President is in a terrible spot. Bring the troops home and is’s not patriotic; leave them there and he’s not doign what some want him to do. Mike Vick was involved in dog fighting and even killed, at least one dog. He’s seen as the lowest of the low, EVER.

Some of you who think extremely bad of Mike Vick should blog from the entrance of George HW Bush’s Crawford Ranch entrance.

Casual Falcon Fan

May 18th, 2009
12:38 pm

Do the Falcons still own Michael Vick’s rights? If so, can they be traded? And if so, does Vick’s salary still count against the Falcons cap.

Todd

May 18th, 2009
12:38 pm

Wink from Lithonia, great post. You are on the money.

The opinionator

May 18th, 2009
12:41 pm

To add to my previous point I saw someone state that because animals can’t fight back, because they are at the whims and mercy of their human master, watching how a human treats their animals reveals the true character of a person. I think that with Michael Vick’s ongoing brutality towards dogs and dog fighting his true nature was revealed.

dave

May 18th, 2009
12:41 pm

30 arrested for Cockfighting in SC recently maxium penalty is $1000
fine!! where was PETA I guess none of them are Millionare athletes guess chickens are not as important as Dogs!!!!!!!

San

May 18th, 2009
12:43 pm

If a dogfighting, weed smoking, water bottle carrying “thug” can get voted to 3 probowls….what do you expect from a clean cut, drug free, P!SSED OFF athlete STILL running at least a 4.3???

That’s your fear…you don’t LOVE pitpulls THAT much…do you?

savannah falcon

May 18th, 2009
12:50 pm

Look at all of the so call good NFL players: Players getting arrested for drugs (jamaal anderson), Cory McIntyre (sexual exposure), Lynch, DUI’s, weapons violators (Tank), and even Bobby Cox assualted his wife years ago. Everybody needs a second chance. The odds are very good that Ryan won’t survive next seaon without injury. Always have more than one explosive quarterback. We have 3 sorry back up quarterbacks on the roster. Ryan and Vick can make an explosive duet in the back field. We paid good money over the years to see Vick. We are still waiting for a return on our investment. Keep Vick on the roster.

bobby363

May 18th, 2009
12:51 pm

Thug? Who has Vick robbed or beaten. I live in ATL and I have never heard of Vick “making it rain” or involved in shootings at night clubs. Really this guy was very low key that is why there were no signs. Shooting somebody the bird? Everybody on this blog has done that at sometime in their life. I’m certain that he has used weed but it has not been “verified” but 99.9% of peolple on this blog has tasted the bud at least once and if not best believe one of your parents have, especially if they grew up in the 60’s. So if the combination makes you a Thug then there are lot of people on this blog with Thuggish parents. I know many physcians to this day, and I am speaking of in their 60’s, still take a hit. The only thing remarkable about this guy is that he financed and participated in dog fighting. (very grewsome and unattractive hobby)
Some of you wright that he can never be forgiven and shouldn’t and no matter what he does not how much good he does that he will always be a THUG! I got news for you buddy. I don’t know about other religions but if you are Christian or Jew then there are a lot of Thugs in the Bible that became Saints after they “Saw the light”.
Those same once “Thugs” especially in the old testament are looked upon highly and regarded as great holy men today.
By no means am I comparing Vick to becoming a Saint; the point is that murderers and sometimes mass murderers are to this day are being glorified after redemption. I think dog fighting is just a little below mass murder
– Just put this situation in perspective–
I bet some people hate Vick worse than Osama Bin Laden!

Hollywould

May 18th, 2009
12:54 pm

San, Your rationale is the prob. He might can run a 4.3 but his passing is a 0.0. Some team, PLease take him!!!!

AtlSouthside

May 18th, 2009
1:00 pm

If Jeff is a journalist and realizes all of the obstacles and resistance that Vick will face upon release from prison, what makes Jeff assume that Vick’s (high-priced)lawyers haven’t already mentally prepared Vick for what he will face?

To say that he isn’t ready, is strictly an assumption based on speculation.

Atlhawkeye

May 18th, 2009
1:01 pm

This continues to be one of the most ridiculous debates on record, be it Michael Vick or anyone else.

I don’t even know why they bother to let people out of jail, because no matter what time is spent there, what apologies are made, or life changes that the individual will “attempt” to make upon release – people still tend to want that EXTRA pound of flesh from the felon. He has served his time for the crime committed. Whether you like him or not, he has followed through with the punishment handed to him by the courts.

“There but for the Grace of God go I…”.

When someone pays the penalty for their crime, what is the issue? When a person is released from prison, are they not allowed to have a career regardless of the profession? To make the attempt at re-building their lives without a crowd yelling “Stone him!” every waking moment?

It is this constant hypocrisy in our culture that justifiably sends those who commit crimes to jail/prison, and upon release, continue to denigrate the individual for the rest of their lives. While at the same time patting ourselves on the back, wrapping ourselves in the american flag and espousing our “Christian” values as we brand the scarlet letter on whomever is the despised individual of the moment.

I don’t care of MV succeeds or fails in whatever attempts he makes to resurrect his NFL career. But he at least should be allowed to live his life pursuing those goals without the mob treating him as if he was Jeffrey Dahmer.

Sick Falcons Fans

May 18th, 2009
1:02 pm

What these hateful backwoods tea baggers are so petrified of is Vick coming back with his new team to the Georgia Dome and hearing the sold out crowd go crazy when he hits the field. Now that’s what they are afraid of, watching Vick come back and dominate in the Georgia Dome the same way Deion did. It will be really funny to see that #7 jersey all OVER the Georgia Dome and a standing room only crowd – and poor little backwoods tea baggers will be sullen and sulking and mad and probably calling up 680 or 790 to vent their frustrations. LOL! But Arthur Blank will be happy, because that will be the one game that helps the rest of the season to BREAK EVEN.

AtlSouthside

May 18th, 2009
1:04 pm

I agree San, I think there are a number of “experts” who fear Vick’s return to the NFL.

All I'm Saying Is...

May 18th, 2009
1:06 pm

The Opinionator:
1) Some of us learned a long time ago to not believe as Gospel everything we saw on television
2) Tavis Smiley does not represent all black people. and
3) Do you know that there are 40 million African-American people in this country? Are you telling me that you have met over 20 million of them? Because unless you have, you have no idea about anything regarding black people “…as a general rule…” and your comment “And while there are certainly black people who humanely care for their beasts as a general rule blacks simply view animals differently and do no care for them in the same way white people do. I’m sorry if it sounds racist but it is what it is.” Is not only racist but one of the dumbest things I have ever read—-by your twisted logic, since most serial killers (Ted Bundy, Jeff Dahmer,…) are Caucasian Males “…as a general rule…”, all Caucasian Males have a tendency to be serial killers…

All I'm Saying Is...

May 18th, 2009
1:22 pm

Back to football: Seems to me that since Vick left the game, the “Wildcat” formation has taken off in popularity and is so popular now that teams are even drooling over the idea of Tim Tebow running it in the NFL…hmmm…isn’t this basically an aspect of the offense the Falcons successfully ran with Vick at quarterback?

Funny, how several teams love the idea of having a running back come in and execute this offense. Makes perfect sense to me for a team to sign MV to run this offense, be a slot receiver, situational back (3rd and long receiver or running back) and back-up QB.

In terms of MV and his future, therefore, IF a team takes a chance on him (big if), then all he has to do is say to the media whenever he is asked about his involvement with dogfighting is that “I committed a crime, I lied about which was also wrong but I did admit to it, I went to jail and I paid my debt to society and now I am trying to put my life back together and I have nothing more to say about it.” By saying this repeatedly AND staying out of trouble (big And), attention will turn to his football and eventually people will start asking why is it that the protesters keep after this guy who is simply trying to turn his life around.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
1:23 pm

The last two years Vick was QB in Atlanta proves that “NO TEAM OR PERSON FEARS VICK COMING BACK TO THE NFL.” Some of you guys think Vick invented the NFL. I know this, there are coaches right now trying their hardest to figure out how to stop the Falcons in 2009. I myself have finally got over the crow I had to eat when I defended Vick time and time again…………………good bye Vick see you on TV next year in the Canadian league, if you’re lucky!

Kelvin

May 18th, 2009
1:25 pm

Let me just say that like it or not the Vick story is still news worthy as evidenced by the large number of posts to this article. Vick still brings out a lot of emotions in people on both sides. I as an African American am not “Vick Worshiper” as a lot of African Americans are perceived. Nor am I a hater of Vick. I believe if The NFL allows Vick back into the league and some team wants to sign him I am ok with it. If the league suspended him for life I am ok with that as well. The bottom line is Vick is in a predicament of his own making. My opinion of him as a QB is that he is more of a pure athlete than a QB. He doesn’t read defenses well; he doesn’t hit Receivers coming out of their break, and he doesn’t put in the extra time necessary to become better. These were things I was saying about him before the dog fighting incident. I am sorry the Falcons had to go through the embarrassment Vick broad upon them and the city of Atlanta, but had we not gone through it we would not have Matt Ryan as our QB. This kid in my opinion is the real deal. I believe Ryan is about a year away from leading this team to a Super Bowl. The defense has to improve and the offensive line has to hold up, but I believe Ryan, when his career is done, will have multiple super bowl titles under his belt. As far as Vick is concerned, I believe he will be back in the NFL this year or next. I don’t believe Vick will be the superstar his supporters are hoping for. A career 50% passer doesn’t get better by taking two or three years off. Once the novelty of his return has worn off, I believe Vick will be released and out of the league within two or three years.

Atlhawkeye

May 18th, 2009
1:25 pm

This continues to be one of the most ridiculous debates on record, be it Michael Vick or anyone else.

I don’t even know why they bother to let people out of jail, because no matter what time is spent there, what apologies are made, or life changes that the individual will “attempt” to make upon release – people still tend to want that EXTRA pound of flesh from the felon. He has served his time for the crime committed. Whether you like him or not, he has followed through with the punishment handed to him by the courts.

“There but for the Grace of God go I…”.

When someone pays the penalty for their crime, what is the issue? When a person is released from prison, are they not allowed to have a career regardless of the profession? To make the attempt at re-building their lives without a crowd yelling “Stone him!” every waking moment?

It is this constant hypocrisy in our culture that justifiably sends those who commit crimes to jail/prison, and upon release, continue to denigrate the individual for the rest of their lives. While at the same time patting ourselves on the back, wrapping ourselves in the american flag and espousing our “Christian” values as we brand the scarlet letter on whomever is the despised individual of the moment.

I don’t care of MV succeeds or fails in whatever attempts he makes to resurrect his NFL career. But he at least should be allowed to live his life pursuing those goals without the mob treating him as if he were Jeffrey Dahmer.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
1:30 pm

You know, I’ve changed my mind!! I hope Vick does come back and play in the NFL. The NFC south for that matter. I would love to see a guy running around carrying the foorball like a loaf of bread and fumble so the Falcons can improve their turnover ratio. BRING HIM HOME PANTHERS, BUCS,SAINTS!!!

AtlSouthside

May 18th, 2009
1:33 pm

Teams fear him because of his play-making abilities… “Experts” fear Vick’s return because they know that Vick can make them eat their words. There are 32 teams, each with 3 QB spots on the depth chart, which equates to what, 108 QBs in the NFL…

Are you telling me that Vick isn’t better than 75 percent of all NFL QBs?

Experts are so quick to paint rookie QBs as the next so-and-so, without them playing 1 snap in the NFL, yet you have a proven Pro Bowl QB with a winning record as a starter, and so many people wanna say that Vick won’t be prepared…Other folks wanna say Vick should be a RB/WR, when the guy has never played either position…

On top of all that “negative” statistics, Vick has a had a better career than Jay Cutler, who has a losing record as a starter and has no postseason appearances.

gp295

May 18th, 2009
1:45 pm

Black people do not relate to animals, i’m i to suppect caucasian do not relat to human being the way they treat human of other race. Mike Vick is a human being who made a mistake we can’t take it away sh t happen, did it make him a better person. The jury is still out, let hope he is a change man like bob in winder.

leggomyego

May 18th, 2009
2:06 pm

Lt Frank Drebin

May 18th, 2009
2:08 pm

Michael Vick has done his time, and deserves another chance to prove his mettle. If he can succeed in the coming years, despite the whirlwind of controversy, more power to him. I wish him well.

My issue with Vick is his performance as an NFL QB. Definitely not a leader and never did he develop beyond 2002-3. Besides flipping off the home crowd, he also admitted to “giving up” during the tail end of 2005. I can’t speak to his intelligence, but he is definitely lacking in the intagibles of leadership, integrity and accountability. His athletic performance stats are meaningless when it forms the core for a team lacking in leadership.

Lt Frank Drebin

May 18th, 2009
2:12 pm

Also, the whole “Dirty South” theme that permeated the Falcons is long gone, THANK GOD! I welcome the attention to team and the work ethic the Coach Smith and Matt Ryan have brought this team. 2008 for the Falcons was a success due to addition through subtraction.

Good Riddance! Vick, Hall, Crumpler et al.

Sick Falcons Fans

May 18th, 2009
2:19 pm

HA! Well nothing permeates the Falcons NOW “frank dreblin” that’s for sure. Welcome back to 2000! Only the Falcons could actually reverse time and go back to obscurity and irrelevance! Look at your hometown papers coverage! They would rather devote the entire rest of the year to covering Mike Vick than waste time on the Falcons team, do you know why? Because you don’t care about the Falcons frank. The AJC realizes that, just watch how they handle the rest of this year. They know you’ll pay attention to Vick. I certainly don’t blame them! They gotta keep the lights on!

Grammar police

May 18th, 2009
2:23 pm

gp925,

Are you writing as a joke or do you really write that bad? That’s the worst grammar, spelling, and noun and verb singular and plural agreement that I’ve ever seen on a blog. I don’t want to be mean but I can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny or if you need to go back to school to learn how to speak, read, and write proper English.

JournalismIsDead

May 18th, 2009
2:43 pm

Why didn’t the AJC do an expose on the Humane Society of the US and their fradulent campaigns to raise money that doesn’t go anywhere NEAR helping the poor critters they love to cry about on TV? Where was the AJC to point out the hypocrisy of those nuts PETA as they holler about Vick but was mute on Ed Faron’s conviction and sentence – as well as the killing of every ONE of the 100 dogs he owned for his dogfighting ring in NC. Why AJC? Why didn’t you print the story about the crazy woman who was put on federal probation for the letter she sent to Vick’s lawyer that threatened his HUMAN CHILDREN. Why is the AJC so biased in its reporting? Why are you so protective of groups the FBI calls domestic terrorists? Ask those scientists/researchers at UCLA if they think PETA is just a “animal rights” group,see what they say.

Nicole W

May 18th, 2009
2:43 pm

Does Michael Vick Deserve a second chance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjostWvg9tU

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Rather than focusing on the dog fighting problem, the movie sheds light on solutions leading to “Vicktory” for all the underdogs in the movie – tattoo people, pitbulls, parolees and all the other people in this world that society has turned their back on through ignorance and racism.
The movie also examines the life of Brandon Bond and his struggle with balancing fame, fortune and the Rock-N-Roll tattoo lifestyle with a more fulfilling life that focuses on the betterment of both animals and society as a whole.
Featuring celebrities like Debbie and Danny Trejo, Michael Berryman, Pixie Acia and Donal Logue, the movie takes you on an incredible journey you will never forget!

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Otis Elam

May 18th, 2009
2:59 pm

To be sure Michael Vick has paid his debt and some but the media outcry was worse than the public out cry. I am a pet owner and while I cannot condone animal cruelty this “human cruelty” or “hachet job ” that you guys have done to him hurts far worse. We have. My concern is, where are the independent minded thinkers in the media- either print or visual. Either you handle Vick in an “even handed way” that is obviously tilted to his demise or you just villify him and even minimize his accomplishments pontificating about his “accuracy” or some sordid idea about his leadership. I am sure that you could trot out many other “better” quarterbacks but very few of them have led their teams to the NFL Championship game. What are you guys afraid of – getting you credentials yanked. Vick represents a new model for the quarterback position. I’m not crowning Vick a saint but seemingly the media to a man (or woman) has taken a side versus just reporting the saga minus the “hate Vick” spin. This issue has divided Atlanta and all of the hoopla of the new guy at quarterback whose opening contract (one deserved by a proven veteran)reeks with a dark irony. I have lived in Atlanta and other parts of GA and the fans that I talk to will not come to see the Falcons because of the handling of the Vick issue. I have been a Falcon fan since 1972. I see how quickly the team is getting help for the new guy but Vick had to run for his life for years. He did not have the same opportunity to show case his arm except in brief flashes. I will take the guy who lead us to one game from the Super Bowl than the new guy who has many more weapons who didn’t have to win the game but rather manage the game. Again I call for the independent talking heads who are not afraid to go the route of the salmon where there is spawned peace and life on the other side of the turbelence.

JSS

May 18th, 2009
3:11 pm

Don’t worry you bunch of Jeff Schultz apologists, none of my posts were deleted… I knew that by the time I arrived back in the US, the NO TALENT HACK would opine on Michael Vick before the story had a chance to (1) HAPPEN, (2) BE A POINT OF RELEVANCY, and (3) offer supposition INSTEAD OF FACTS.

Way back in the 80’s when I toiled in my final media internship before choosing an honest line of work; my old boss Brenda Hood gave me some sage advice: “You never, ever, have to make up or suppose an opinion to make a well written piece of journalism work!” Since Jeff Schultz was first given a column in the AJC (yes I said given, he certainly did not earn it); he has done those two regrettable things over and over again… Redundant suppositions, hearsay, character assassinations, and innuendo, week after week, column after column, appearance after appearance, it is the same mindless blah, blah, blah!!!

There is a statue in on the backside of Capitol downtown of Tom Watson. He was a leader of populist movement at the end of the 19th century… He could have been a great national figure, but every time he had a chance to separate himself from the narrow minded leaders of his time, he sank to the lowest common denominator to please his masses no matter the cost…

I have said over and over again why I believe Jeff Schultz is a unmediated liar… His few lines about debts having been paid and rights to work just reinforce that point… Once a society (laws presided over by our courts) sets its recommendation, then the community (the law givers and the law abiding) either believes in the rule of law or in anarchy of mob rule… It will be funny to watch how this plays out, especially in the atmosphere that will be be generated by Jeff Schultz and Jon Kincade…. Still, the AJC has a history of loving mob rule. For those who like to sweep history under the rug, go visit the graves of Leo Frank or any the victims of the 1906 Atlanta Race Riot if don’t believe me…

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
3:13 pm

leggomyego, the best tacos in Atlanta are at Taquiria del sol(i know i miss-spelled that, but i am not going to Google it). Neat place, you wait in a big line before ordering and then they come out in like 2 minutes.

Can we actually get something for Vick in a trade or are we releasing him and taking the cap hit? I used to love watching Vick play and he has mad skills…but he treated dogs very poorly(and poorly I mean like a sociopath) so he must be jettisoned.

And I love the people that buy tickets and go to Falcon’s games to boo them, makes sure the game will sellout and be on TV.

Troy in Roanoke,va

May 18th, 2009
3:16 pm

Vick has been demonized like no other criminal in this country. Look at all the ” thug ” football players and what they have done to people in our society, and answer me one question, how can Vick’s crime be worse ?? He has been thrown way under the bus by NFL, Goddell, and most black leaders in this country.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
3:29 pm

“ARIZONA VS ATLANTA” – 2009 PLAYOFFS…………

MATT RYAN “LEAF” WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS :)

————————————————————————

MATT RYAN LEAF, THE GREAT WHITE HOPE,
VERSUS ARIZONA, I KNEW HE WOULD CHOKE.
WITH A THROWING ARM LIKE A FAIRY,
A PLAYOFF WIN HE COULD NEVER CARRY.
SINCE DRAFT DAY, I KNEW HE WAS A BUST;
CAN’T CARRY MV7 JOCK STRAP, EVEN WITH THE RUST.
BY THE TIME 2009 SEASON BEGINS,
THE FALCONS HOPES WILL AGAIN END.

“BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ONE AND ONLY” — VICK SUPPORTER 2

GO FALCONS!

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
3:38 pm

Mike Vick’s record the last 24 games with the Falcons………………..10-14. Vick is not a threat to any team! Heck let him play, gives the opposing team a better chance at a win!

Buddy the Dog

May 18th, 2009
3:40 pm

Well, Mike Vick gets out of prison soon and may play football again.

Good for him.

What about all of my doggie buddies that he and his other thugs tortured, mutilated, and killed?

They don’t get a second chance, do they?

If a team signs Vick, I hope the public boycotts the team and divides the city they are in. Then another team will not take a chance on him.

But perhaps if he first had to get into a pit and fight a monstor vicious pitbull for his very life like my friends had to….

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
3:49 pm

WHEN ARE YOU “DOG KISSERS” GOING TO LEARN. NOBODY CARES ABOUT A BUNCH OF STUPID DOGS. THE LAST TIME I CHECKED “WORTHLESS” FURY CREATURES DON’T SELL OUT THE DOME AND OTHER STADIUMS. TEAM OWNERS DON’T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT YOUR WHINING “DOG KISSERS” – GET A LIFE AND MAKE LOVE TO HUMANS, NOT DOGS :)

GO FALCONS!

Hamad Meander

May 18th, 2009
3:59 pm

Lt. Frank has made a very reasonable point. Here are Vick’s career stats: 71 TDs, 52 INTs, 53.8% completions – that isn’t stellar. Add in also 36 fumbles his last 3 seasons and you don’t have a QB that you can say will elevate your team to another level.

Trade? Ain’t going to happen because Vick’s contract is still in effect, and NO team is going to take on that type of salary on a player that might be a situational or backup player.

Best thing for Vick is to get back to playing football (and if it’s in the NFL it will be another position), keep so clean that he doesn’t even step on a crack in the sidewalk, and repeatedly tell the black community that he was wrong, not that he was wronged.

BubbaDaBaller

May 18th, 2009
4:04 pm

“Hype Myth” is exactly what #7 was and should be his new “Nom Daguerre”…He has the right to play if Sheriff Goodell will let him…But he won’t be but a shadow of what he was, which wasn’t much more than (1) win in Green Bay in the Playoffs…When you tie your cause to a “Face” their actions can take you to the wrong place…I feel for the “Core” ATL Fans who embraced him when he became a Falcon, but as a fomer Falcon he should be an after thought, not a martyr…

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
4:04 pm

Mike Vick an NFL QB again…………HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! wwwwwater boy maybe. Heck no, he’ll fumble the cup taking it to a thirsty player!! HA!HA!HA!

JournalismIsDead

May 18th, 2009
4:09 pm

Haters you can keep wishing that a 3 time ProBowler who every teammate and coach says is a damn good QB will have to play another position, but its not gonna happen. See, you can’t pretend like there aren’t QBs in the league right now that missed 2 seasons with injury – or that there is a QB on the Falcons roster right now that was out for 3 full seasons. You can’t pretend like nobody KNOWS that stuff. Vick is a QB and has been playing that position since junior high, so stop that fruitless wish. It is not going to happen, just like your wish that he never play football again and threaten your false perception of what a QB should LOOK like (kinda like your pathetic and sad perception of what a President of the USA should Look like!) Its 2009 haters. Your nightmare has returned….and now he’s mad.

Edgar

May 18th, 2009
4:13 pm

After the 2004 season I was blinded by an 11 & 5 season and a trip to the NFC Championship game. The next season, 2005, this team took off at the front of the schedule and it looked as if the Falcons couldn’t be stopped. Suddenly the losses started during the second half of the season and by the season’s end we were out of the playoffs. The next season was the same thing. I got real angry because this man quit on his team then threw his coach under the bus. That made the second head coach, Reeves being the first, he went to the owner and blamed. The other things we started hearing about by that time meant nothing to me. The man has got so many issues I wonder if he’ll ever be able to not only play NFL football again but I wonder if he can ever make it in life. I know Tony Dungy has reached out and probably several more prominent personalities will do the same but the first thing he, Vick, has to do is look deep into his own fractured life and deal with it in more ways than Jesus and big personalities can offer. I wish him well even though I watched as he took a good football team and ripped it apart slowly but methodically with his fractured way of living. He’s got a lot further to go to change his life than a job offer from an NFL team.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
4:21 pm

JournalismIsDead, David Carr’s teammates said he was a good QB tell he was released. So what’s your point. What has MV7 done for the Falcons since 2004? That’s right NOTHING!! Stop blaming everyone and put the blam where it belongs in MV7’s lap.

Hamad Meander

May 18th, 2009
4:37 pm

What!!! – you are my new favorite poster. Funny stuff with the fumbles….and with 36 of them in 2004, 2005, and 2006, it’s true.

Journalismisdead – the only reason Michael Vick was a 3 time probowler is because of his popularity and maybe because people wanted to see Vick run around like crazy on every play. Bottom line is that he got away with being a NFL QB on his athleticism, not is quarterbacking skills.

Vick Supporter 2 – if you truly think Matt Ryan is Ryan Leaf reincarnated, I’m afraid you are too far from reality to even claim some knowledge of the game of football or evaluating a football player’s talent. Matt Ryan in one season accomplished more than Ryan Leaf did in his career – actually surpassing Leaf’s career TDs in one season. Also, he completed more that 61% of his passes, where leaf didn’t make it past 50% at any time @ San Diego! Good Grief!

chiefs fan

May 18th, 2009
4:48 pm

I’ll trade ya Larry Johnson and a cheeseburger for MV, straight up.

JournalismIsDead

May 18th, 2009
4:53 pm

Idiot “what” – actually pretty appropriate….anyway..what did Brooking do for the Falcons? What did Dez White and Woody Danzler do for the Falcons? I’ll tell you what Mike Vick did…he had the NFL still scheduling 3 national games after a 7-9 season. He had the NFL STILL putting the Falcons on Thanksgiving night against the Colts in the Georgia Dome (and it killed the ratings since he wasn’t there)…now here you have the NFL’s Coach of the Year, GM of the Year and Rookie of the Year…and all you got was the normal 2 national games that every team that at LEAST makes the playoffs get…Heck, the Cowboys and the Bears got better coverage than that and they didn’t play past week 17! You have Arthur Blank whining that he lost money and what’s this I hear? Buck Klancade whining that the Falcons lost all this advertising money! LOL For 6 seasons in a row, the total budget from the Falcons marketing office on ticket sales was 0, ZIP, ZERO – NOTHING! Didn’t have to spend a dime because NO NEED, but now I bet everybody here has seen those “the hunt is on!!” commercials at least 50 times and 5 times a day on every local station. HA! GOOD! Let Blank continue to PAY to build his precious team and hopefully you supporters of all things Falcons will do more than just bash Vick, you’ll spend some of your money proving how very much you care about your team! Its May 18th Mr. Blank! Do you know where your season ticket holders are?

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
4:55 pm

Hamad, I just can’t see the love so many are giving Vick as a QB. I defended this guy right to the time he walked into the court room hoping proof would emerge that he didn’t do any of this. I had to eat alot of crow since them from the flack I got from family and friends saying “I told you so.” Boy was I fooled! Glad he’s gone!

All I'm Saying Is...

May 18th, 2009
4:55 pm

The opinionator: Your follow-up comments confirmed what I thought: you’re an idiot and complete waste of vital organs. I am impressed by one thing which is that you can type since that’s got to be hard to do when you drag your knuckles with every step. Moving on……..

Here’s something interesting: IF a team signs him, Peter King with Sports Illustrated (who I rarely agree with) is in favor of MV being reinstated after also serving a four game suspension specifically for repeatedly lying to Blank and Goodell. Makes sense to me.

Thoughts?

Tony

May 18th, 2009
5:03 pm

I hope Mike excels because his future success will provide him with a platform to help more kids than if he fails. With remorse, dedication, respect for the game, respect for himself, and valuable time inspiring our youth to make the right decisions Mike can become not just a game changer, but a life changer for many troubled youth that need inspiration. Mike will be reinstated because too many people want to see how the story ends versus being left hanging.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
5:05 pm

Journal, my blinded friend. This has nothing to do with any other player but Vickie himself. I don’t give a flying floozie fart what time or what channel the Falcons play. I remember a big monday night game in New Orleans that Vickie lead to a total butt whooping. Remember, we saw alot of those game with Vickie at QB. I can also tell you that no other Falcon player did so much to almost ruin a team and city. Thinks to Blank and company, including MATT RYAM, they are rebuilding with success!!

JournalismIsDead

May 18th, 2009
5:15 pm

Delta!! Oh Delta!! Why you leave now? Huh? No longer think its in your best interest to be a sponsor of the Falcons?? Wait…isn’t Delta HEADQUARTERED HERE?? Gee…..I thought the sponsors where supposed to leave if Vick came back…I guess Delta didn’t get the memo! Or Delta did get the memo and looked at the ratings from last year, which dropped, and looked at the empty red seats in the Dome and said “perhaps, we can best spend our sponsorship dollars elsewhere.” You diehard Falcons fans must not mean that much to the folks at Delta Airlines! Oh look! Another “The Hunt Is On” commercial!

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
5:19 pm

Journal, does it make you mad when you see Matt Ryan’s commercial about every 5 min. on the NFL network?

Paddy

May 18th, 2009
5:22 pm

Greedy… Iagree with you MV deserves a chance to redeem his life and be a success. But the great possibility is that success may be far from any NFL football field. I wish him luck but I really believe it won’t be in football. If I were an owner I would not take the tremendous risk of having in my city wearing my colors. Just way to much downside. But that same owner who may own other companies could offer him a job at a livable wage. Who knows how this is going to play out in the real tough world we now live in.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
5:26 pm

Journal……..you’re a sad little man.

Ted Striker

May 18th, 2009
5:31 pm

Michael Vick would already be out of jail if he’d been broke and used a public defender. A public defender would’ve had no reason to tell Vick he could get him off. A public defender would’ve seen the mountain of evidence & convinced Vick to plead guilty immediately, shooting for a plea bargaining in exchange for testimony against Phillips, Peace, and Taylor.

High priced defense attorneys saw Vick as another winning lottery ticket, convinced him they’d get him off. With that false bravado, he lied to Blank, lied to Goodell. Vick did bad things to dogs and his attorneys did bad things to him right back.

I haven’t absolutely trusted an attorney since I caught one trying to sneak his name into my will.

What!!!

May 18th, 2009
5:32 pm

Man, I really should proof read before I post. Thinks should be Thanks Ryam should Ryan and game should be games. I hope I haven’t spoilded the grammer patrol’s fun before his mother runs him a bath.

JournalismIsDead

May 18th, 2009
6:01 pm

What commercial of Ryan on NFL Network?? LMAO!!! The HUNT IS ON!! Season ticket holders! Where ARE YOU??? Hey Season Ticket Holders!! Come out Come out whereever you are!!! Is that one over there?!?!?! Ooops….nope! Sorry! Season ticket holders! Don’t be shy! Arthur Blank has been whining about losing money! Come on! Where y’all at??

Hamad Meander

May 18th, 2009
6:02 pm

Ted Striker – Most insightful! I never thought about the role the lawyers had in whether or not Vick fought the charges, or just plead guilty and take what came of it. The only problem with that argument would be that a public defendant would have seen the same stars in their eyes as a fancy high dollar one, and might have tried the same techniques.

Don’t get me wrong here – I find Vick’s actions (the lying and deceit as much as the dogfighting and racketeering) the evil here that should be punished. As a man, Vick can make choices that bring good to his life and to others as well. I wish him the grace to take the path that he needs to take to be a positive influence and a model citizen.

Before the crimes were revealed, 98% of Falcon fans were certainly proud and excited to have Vick as their QB. Things have changed since. Now we are proud and excited to have Matt Ryan. Good Luck Michael – do the right thing.

DeeMack

May 18th, 2009
6:02 pm

Some of you on this blog are really, really hateful and vengeful. Michael Vick deserves another chance JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE! Re the other article about having a brain scan to see if there is real remorse, PLLLEEEEASE! Brain scans cannot detect remorse. That must have been a joke, right? If that were so, we would be able to detect whether a person is a killer or not through scans. MV does not have to play with the Falcons again, okay fine, they ain’t ALL THAT anyway, but allow MV to play football in the NFL. For those who got off on sending their MV’s jerseys to the animal shelter – hopefully it made you feel better, but I still see a lot of “7″ jerseys being worn in the ATL. Michael Vick deserves another CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cedmo73

May 18th, 2009
6:03 pm

This comment is for scottbravesfan,

DON’T EVER SAY that Vick makes black people look bad, are YOU CRAZY? One man does not define an entire race!!! Rush Limbaugh and George Bush don’t define whites! Mike Vick made Mike Vick look bad, not his mother, his school, The Falcons, no one else but himself. Nobody had to do the time but him, no one lost endorsements but him. The Falcons lost some money, but hell as much as they SCREW OVER the players in the NFL, they got that back already!! You do not have to forgive him for what he did, and that is on you, I just hope whatever secrets and dirt you hold, someone forgave you for them.But do not get on people with Christian faith, ain’t that what the Bible teaches us, to forgive? Look, actually I do not care about dogs like that, so I do not feel for them, (sorry) but I do not have dogs and I do not think people should fight dogs (and I think he was really stupid for doing it), but I cannot condemn him for it. He apparently had the wrong environment around him, and that is all his fault. Let’s see how he does from this moment on before we label him a ‘THUG’.

Not A Football Fan. But......

May 18th, 2009
7:07 pm

Vick knows the error of his ways. He may have the last laugh. Enough with the bashing!

All I'm Saying Is...

May 18th, 2009
7:28 pm

DeeMack: I agree with you. I can’t believe the nerve of the PETA people.

“People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals opposes Vick’s reinstatement to the NFL unless he submits to a brain scan and psychological evaluation that proves he’s capable of true remorse, spokesman Dan Shannon said.”

Who the heck died and made them king? They have crossed the line with this type of stipulation. Keep up their persecution (assuming MV stays out of trouble) and they will make MV appear sympathetic in the eyes of the general public…

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
7:34 pm

Vick Supporter 2, Did Mike Vick take the Falcons to the playoffs in his 1st year as the Falcons quarterback?

marcus

May 18th, 2009
7:43 pm

I THINK IT IS A DOWN RIGHT SHAME THAT THIS MAN IS BEING SCRUTINIZED IN THE MEDIA THE WAY HE HAS. A PERSON THAT COMMITS MURDER ISN’T BEING TREATED THIS WAY! HE HAS PAID HIS DEBT TO SOCIETY, LET HIM LIVE HIS LIFE!

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 18th, 2009
7:44 pm

Surfdawg….YES, in his first year as the Falcons starting QB he sure did take the team to the playoffs and made the ProBowl too!

The AJC’s 24/7 coverage has kicked off! Sales are sure to spike this week! This summer even if they do what I’m SURE they’re planning too! Gotta capitalize!

Mrs. Schultz

May 18th, 2009
7:47 pm

Jeff you created this blog knowing full well how racially divisive it would become. I truly feel sorry for anyone white or black who cannot debate an issue without reverting to uncivilized, uneducated and bigoted exchanges. Some of the thought processes that some of you display here makes it apparent to me that you are not angry at Michael Vick instead you are angry yourselves. Michael Vick, no matter how much he has screwed up, dedicated himself to being a football player and became so good at it that he was paid millions of dollars to do so and even though he has a lot of work to do going forward I have no doubt he will dedicate himself to coming back and once again making millions of dollars. Some of you in here have never dedicated yourselves to anything but a beer can, a cigarette, bigotry or a line of meth and you are jealous of Michael Vick and what he blew. Michael Vick has paid more of a debt for that crime than any of you could ever pay. I am not a Michael Vick fan but I’m not a racist either and while I love dogs, grew up around dogs and own one to this day…I would never want to sacrifice a human in exchange for a dog. Michael Vick has lost more than 99% of you will ever even own in your lifetimes and some of you probably wishes he were hung. Thats sad…but you know what he won’t be hung and he is going to be released and he will as a convicted felon earn more money than most of you will earn in your lifetimes. So get over Michael Vick.

To Jeff Schultz – Thank you for turning the AJC into a place where bigots can have a voice and remind the world of all of the racial tensions this world still has to offer. You are truly a credit to your craft and to me.

sad brotha

May 18th, 2009
7:49 pm

Live the “Thug Life” and go to jail. I’m not a fan of that. Lie to the boss man, GET Fired! Get gone Vick! We fans don’t need yo punk blunt weed- smoking laid back self centered money burning lifestyle. Paid yo dues? Not in my book. BYE BYE VICK!!!!!!

Go Falcons and Go Ryan! A breath of fresh air that we need!

sad brotha

May 18th, 2009
7:49 pm

Enter your comments here

LT

May 18th, 2009
7:58 pm

What a Country? looking at all of the red states that voted for McCain, I understand why most of the blogs are so negatives. Most knowledgeable fans will not admit that the Falcons defenses, lead by your Keith Brooking’s through the Vick years will discover one of the lowest rated statistical defenses in the league 10 of the losses Vick did his job by scoring enough points to win those games to watch that inferior defense lead by your Keith Brooking lose the game. I can only hope when the Game-tapes become public… Just-tUS will finally be Served…

Former Season Ticket Holder

May 18th, 2009
8:03 pm

Here’s to 200 more layoffs at the AJC. The more you cater to your Deliverance crowd, the more you go in the red. So keep it up.

Ted Striker

May 18th, 2009
8:10 pm

Mrs. Shultz: Methinks you’re being facetious. I’ll have you know the following:

A) I am not a fan of beer (Although shares of various tequila companies went up 9% based on my patronage in 2008).

B) Who does ONE (1) line of any type drug? It’s bad karma, ignoring the other nostril. If you and your (slightly hotter) twin sister would bring an 8 ball of coke over and wearing nothing but your thongs and a baby tee, I’d explain.

C) We probably agree on a lot of stuff. I’m willing to look over your insolence if you’re willing to do naughty things.

BigEasy830

May 18th, 2009
8:44 pm

Najeeh great post man, VS and VS2 keep giving them …, To all those that say Roddy and the rest of the receivers did not get better until MV7 left, maybe they did not get better until the old coaching regime left. The old coaches sucked, watch how Seattle will be the laughing stock of football until they fire Mora Jr. and he take Gregg Knapp with him. Shultz says Vick ‘failure as a QB was due to his lack of intangibles”. You mean to tell me a QB with a winning record, 3 pro bowl appearances and lead his team to the NFC championship game with very little help on his side of the ball lacked intangibles. Look, Shultz if you don’t like MV7 so be it, we all know he will never be a Falcon again, so what, but don’t act as if you never watched a Falcon game while MV7 was the QB. Or maybe the hate in your eyes and heart would not let you see and recognize the truth. You also stated that the next team he plays for half the city will hate him, that is not true, we as Americans are forgiving people. If the man ask for forgiveness and shows that he is sincere, then most will forgive him, only those that want to hate him for other reasons will continue to hold his past deeds against him. The first season MV7 was out of football, White, Black, Hispanic and Asian fans showed support for him, but media types like yourself only showed the hatefull ones. You are deleting the racial comments, well why is the AJC reporting on MV7 if the Falcons are turning the page, the AJC wants to fan that racial fire then play crazy when it burns out of control. If MV7 returns to the NFL he will win many games, Randall Cunningham went 15-1 with the Vikes after being out of football, and Randall was aMV7 before there was an MV7 if you catch my drift. Why would a team trade for a QB when everyone knows that his team his release him. That would be crazy, PAYING FOR SOMETHING WHEN YOU CAN GET IT FREE. PETA does have a lot of influence, but why is it that dogfighting was a misdemeanor befor ethe Vick incident, his felony charges were trumped up to make him snitch and cop a plea. he refused to snitch so the judge socked it to him on those trumped up charges, same way Bill Campbell went to prison on bull. Great story VS2 about those dogs, if the government cared so much about dogs then dogfighting would have been a felony a long time ago. I know you people will never understand and race have nothing to do with this next statement, the things that Vick did to those dogs are apart of the dogfighting culture. It is heinous to you and I because we do not agree with or understand that culture, but there are many people in this country that do. It is humane to kill a dog that lost a dogfight. That dog is seriously injured, they kill the dog to stop the suffering. Many who train and fight their dogs love the dog, it is somewhat like the book Mice and Men. Kill it to stop the suffering.

cdog

May 18th, 2009
8:45 pm

SOME ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE SUPPORT OF MICHAEL VICK INTO A RACE THING. GOD DON’T CARE IF YOU ARE GREEN OR BLUE. HE LOVES US AND HE FORGIVES US WHEN WE REPENT OF OURS SINS. THE YOUNG MAN HAS BEEN THROUGH ALOT. I BELIEVE THIS TRIAL BROUGHT HIM CLOSER TO THE LORD. WE SHOULD FORGIVE HIM AND LET HIM GET ON WITH HIS LIFE. WHETHER IS BLACK, WHITE OR YELLOW. FORGIVING HIM IS WHAT GOD WOULD WANT US TO DO

Ed Faron

May 18th, 2009
9:03 pm

And you people still think all this hate and bashing of Vick is about dogfighting? No it isn’t, that’s just the excuse they use to cover up what its REALLy about. Ask Ed Faron if they care.

Published: February 16, 2009

WILKESBORO, NC

A Superior Court judge this morning ordered that 127 pit bulls seized in a raid of a breeder of fighting dogs should be euthanized.

Judge Ed Wilson entered the order after hearing arguments from Wilkes County officials, from the prosecutor and from The Humane Society of the U.S. that the dogs are dangerous and would pose a risk if adopted into homes.

A number of animal lovers and animal advocacy groups have offered to adopt the dogs.

The dogs were seized Dec. 10, 2008, during a raid on Wildside Kennels in Wilkes County.

When Wildside Kennels owner Ed Faron failed to pay the county for the dogs’ care after they were seized, a judge awarded ownership of the dogs to the county.

Faron, 61, pleaded guilty last week of 14 counts of felony dog fighting and was sentenced to 8 to 10 months in prison. His adopted son, Donni Juan Casanova, 18, pleaded guilty to one count of felony dog fighting and was given a suspended sentence of 6 to 8 months.

Amanda Grace Lunsford, 25, the third and final defendant in the case, pleaded guilty this morning to a misdemeanor count of cruelty to animals. She is Casanova’s fiancé and had been living at the house less than a month at the time of the raid, her attorney said, and her role was simply to feed and water the dogs.

Lunsford was sentenced to 45 days, which was suspended for 24 months of supervised probation.

Barry

May 18th, 2009
9:03 pm

Hey Y’all:

CDOG, There are a lot of “sad sacks” on this blog who do not believe in GOD. You can feel their “DEMONIC SPIRIT” in their comments on these blogs. We alkl know what their end will be. “REPENT” AND ACCEPT FORGIVENESS, AS WILL MICHAEL VICK, IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!”.

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN! TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

………………………”ONE HEARTBEAT, BABY!!!!!!”…………….

Jerry

May 18th, 2009
9:04 pm

Yes he screwed up. Yes he paid for the crime. Now let him earn a living playing ball if he can. Enough with the judging and whinning. I was raised in the Southeast and killing a dog was not thought of being the same as killing a human. You animal rights people need to go under a dark bridge in one of the nations larger communities and find out what real animal abuse really is. Thousands of human beings suffering without hope and you animal rights people feed your mutt more than these people eat.

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
9:06 pm

NOTE TO EVERYBODY: “Bob From Winder” is the first commentor to have his I.P. address banned. Let’s all give him a big round of applause. … As for the rest of you, I’ve had to delete several more comments and will continue to do so if arguments are not kept on a civil level. ..Thanks JS.

PlusSizeModel

May 18th, 2009
9:12 pm

Say what you will about Vick, but questioning his toughness is going overboard. Dude sold out his body for yards on the regular and never sat out with little injuries. He was a tough player.

PlusSizeModel

May 18th, 2009
9:18 pm

I think Vick sucked as a QB and his behavior was unacceptable, but dude has essentially been fined over 50 million dollars in addition to his jail time. And you bleeding heart animal lovers need to consider this: it’s not his fault he was born stupid. Where’s your compassion for that part of the equation? Vick has paid fifty-fold of anything reasonable for his crimes and he deserves another chance, period.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
9:31 pm

PRO BOWL RUNNING BACK

PRO BOWL WIDE RECEIVER

PRO BOWL TIGHT END

IF THE FALCONS DON’T GO DEEP IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON, CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING………….

72-MILLION DOLLAR BUST (TOLD YOU SO)

———————————————-

YOU CAN FOOL MOST PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE MOST OF THE TIME

……….HELL YOU FOOLS THAT THINK MATT RYAN “LEAF” IS THE NEXT PEYTON MANNING……………..

YOU ARE JUST PLAIN FOOLS :)

GO FALCONS!

Curious George

May 18th, 2009
9:34 pm

What did “Bob from Winder” say?

Ted Striker

May 18th, 2009
9:47 pm

Congrats to Bob from Winder. Here’s hoping he goes to sleep early tonight and the sheep can be less nervous.

As for everyone else, I do enjoy a good debate but I do enjoy a hot blonde much longer.

BigEasy830

May 18th, 2009
10:17 pm

VS2 you are off the chain, I told my buddies about you when I was deployed and they questioned me about my what’s my favorite NFL team. You got fans world wide now man. But man it is 50/50 if Vick ever plays again in the NFL. You and VS keep talking about redemption, remember the Tookie Williams story played by Jamie Foxx, Tookie changed but they still executed him. When they portray you as s monster and wanna make an example out of you they usually get their way. Most people,once informed, have a good heart and forgive people but the good hearted people are usually quite and don’t stand up for what is right untill it is too late. We hard working people are too busy making a living, but those spoiled behinds that belong to PETA will do their best to make an example of that man. I think they already have but they won’t rest until they think they have destroyed him. I think the NFL and lame Roger Goodell will cave under pressure. PETA people don’t even watch football, they are too busy planning to throw paint on peoples mink coats to be concerned with Football. Plus, they don’t like the fact that footballs use to be made of animal skins.HAHAHAHAHA. The Falcons are 20 million under the salary cap and coming off a lucky 11 win season, When they stank up the dome this year, they can’t blame MV7 for it. They can’t, it’s all on “MATTY ICE”. That weak armed chump has been exposed, Flacco and Chris Johnson were robbed out of the ROY. LET MV7 go AJC and Shultz stop it with these stories, go on and release him Blank, turn that page but read the same old story when it comes to the FALCONS, they have never had back to back winning seasons and they will not change their fortunes this year with the 4th toughest schedule after gutting your team of the veterans that could have lead you through it. After you turn that page look in the rear view mirror you will see the 2008 lucky season look straight ahead and you see 4-12 for 2009. Next draft you will be saying, “man we need a QB, I wonder if we can get Vick”.

BigEasy830

May 18th, 2009
10:23 pm

Ted Striker, I wouldn’t mind having a blonde right about now myself about 5′6″ 130 lbs 36c 24 36… Uh-Oh let me go the wife is coming and she is not a blonde. As Barry would say “SHHHH it’s a secret don’t tell nobody”.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
10:26 pm

SEASON TICKET HOLDER you are right his first year as starter he went to playoffs. That was 2002. His first year, VS2,was 2001 and the one you think is so smart rode the pine,because he was trying to learn all the plays. Thats what makes Ryan the man. His 1st year out of college he learned the plays, won the starting job, and made it to the playoffs.That was his 1st year . Vick,s first year, sat on the bench.VS2 have a nice day.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
10:28 pm

@surfdawg….Ryan played his first year because he’s running the same offense that he ran in college. Get it right. The Falcons did EVERYTHING to make it an easy transition for RYAN. They Had to do that. Blank could not afford to have Ryan fall on his face. If you have any common sense, you could see that.

Vick 09

BigEasy830

May 18th, 2009
10:32 pm

surfdawg, the Falcons implemented Ryan’s college offense. He already knew the plays, they were the same plays he had learned for 4 years in college. Plus, dan Reeves sat Vick to get him acclimated to the NFL, Dan Reeves is old school like that. But, lets ee how your boy “Matty Ice” play this year. He faded worse then that Kid n’ Play hairdo in December. They have enough film on that college offense now, so lets see how he plays this year. Give me a prediction on the Falcons season, wins and loses and your man “Matty Ice” stats for 2009.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
10:35 pm

Ryan’s arm look like a sack of Roman Noodles after week 10,lol.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
10:43 pm

I’ve got plenty of sense and I’m telling you what I saw.I saw Vick sit on the bench his first year and I saw a true leader{ Matt Ryan) emerge and take the Falcons from worst to first in his first year . What part of that can’t you comprehend.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
10:47 pm

Ryan’s arm hurting at week 10 is much better than Vick’s butt hurting him on week 10

willie

May 18th, 2009
10:51 pm

How is this guy not worth at least a 3rd or 4th round pick, if Goodell says he will not suspend him. Are you telling me he is not better than 10-15 of the starting QBs in the league. Even with the huge baggage, a 3rd or 4th rounder is a steal. Not sure how the contract stuff works, though, if he is traded rather than released.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
10:51 pm

Look all you Vick supporters can wine and cry all you want but Matt Ryan is your QB now and he will consistently take you to the playoffs whether you want him to or not.

BigEasy830

May 18th, 2009
10:54 pm

True leader? Lawyer Malloy was a true leader on that team. He blasted Ryan during the lost to Tampa to get his head back in the game and it worked. You can’t gut a team of talent and vets for 2 straight season and expect good things to happen. That GM is not as good as you all think, he did not build the Pats he was just enjoying the ride. The same way you learned that McKay did not build Tampa it was Dungy. It is funny how when you Falcon fans can’t think of anything related to football you post crap. This year will be a thing of beauty, Go ahead and start working on your excuses on why the Falcons and Matt Ryan Suck. Last year it was, “he is just a Rookie”, what will it be this year, oh wait… you will claim it will be the sophomore jinx.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
10:56 pm

Damn Schultz!! What was wrong with my first post? I was just speaking my mind man. if you’re going to put up a blog like this, them let us talk. You know this is a tough subject to talk about in this city

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:00 pm

Think about what you just said BIG EASY. Are you telling me that the Falcons ran the Louisville playbook for Matt Ryan. You are telling me that it was easier to make 65 guys learn Loiusville’s playbook than make one guy learn the Falcon’s playbook. Is this what you are saying?

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
11:06 pm

FACT CHECKER:

AT THE AGE OF 23………..

VICK ACCOMPLISHMENTS
———————

DRAFTED NUMBER 1 OVERALL (AGE 20)

LANDED BRETT FAVRE 1ST LOSS AT LAMBEAU IN PLAYOFFS (AGE 21)

ELECTED TO 1ST PRO BOWL (AGE 21)

ELECTED TO 2ND PRO BOWL (AGE 23)

LED TEAM TO CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (AGE 23)

1ST QB IN NFL HISTORY TO PASS FOR 250 & RUSH FOR 100 (AGE 23)

WON “(29) GAMES BY (AGE 23)

WON “(2) PLAYOFF GAMES BY (AGE 23)

MATT RYAN “LEAF” ACCOMPLISHMENTS
————————————–

DRAFTED NUMBER 3 (AGE 23) —– WAS A 5 YEAR SENIOR

WON ROOKIE OF THE YEAR (AGE 23)

1ST FALCON QB SINCE JEFF GEORGE TO BE 1 & DONE IN PLAYOFFS (AGE 23)

WON 11 GAMES BY (AGE 23)

WON “(0) PLAYOFF GAMES BY (AGE 23)

THE BOTTOM LINE IS AT RYAN LEAF’S AGE OF 23 HE IS ALREADY WAY BEHIND THE WINNING CURB OF THE GREAT MV7.

GO FALCONS!

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
11:08 pm

Vick Supporter — most of the post was fine, until a profane word near the end. It all had to go. So you can clean it up and re-post. I’m at zero tolerance right now.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:09 pm

Alright maybe 65 is exagerated. More like 20

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 18th, 2009
11:12 pm

I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS THE BOSTON COLLEGE PLAYBOOK. RYAN LEAF WENT TO BOSTON COLLEGE (WITHOUT AN A.C.C. TITLE) FOR 5 YEARS. SOME PEOPLE REALLY DON’T KNOW THEIR FACTS :)

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:13 pm

You forgot one VS2 RUINED HIS LIFE AND BROKE FALCON FANS HEARTS AGE 28

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
11:13 pm

Let’s go over some very simple rules again. No profanity. Nobody accusing anybody of racism. No blanket statements about blacks by whites. No blanket statements about whites by blacks. Most of you can understand these simple rules. But too many of you either don’t pay attention or don’t care. Frankly I’m sick of it and disappointed that some readers can’t institute self-control. There’s a billion words in the English language. Shouldn’t be hard for you to find some acceptable ones.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:15 pm

VS 2 that was the best post you made all day I stand corrected

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:15 pm

Jeff, no offense here, but I thought we werew grown ups here. You stopped my post for one word, yet I’ve seen numerous posts that could very well be considered racial. I guess those are the rules. You’re alright with me though, even though you’ve switched from positice things to say about Vick to negative. guess you have to appease your fanbase.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:18 pm

Vick Supporter Don’t worry about Schultz he will be in bed soon and we will have this thing to ourselves.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:21 pm

surfdawg, i really wish you could have an ounce of understanding in your body to hear someone else’s opinion about Vick without calling him a t word. I have to be careful……we’re being babysitted

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:34 pm

Vick supporter I do have an ounce of understanding for Vick. I posted last night that I was a Vick fan and I thought he paid his debt to society and should be able to play in NFL. I think he will just not with Falcons. Sure Vick played some of the most exciting football I’ve ever seen. I’m just taking up for Matt because VS2 has a warped way of looking at things. By the way what’s the T word

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
11:36 pm

Surfdawg: If you prefer, I can just ban you now. Your choice.

VickSupporter: Before you go making assumptions about my agenda or “my fanbase” I’ve found been called names from readers of all races. And it’s worth noting that the only person banned (so far) wrote comments (including some sick ones flagged by spam which you never saw) that made him look like a Klansman from the 60s.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:37 pm

surfdawg, you know what it is….you guys new n-word

Jeff Schultz

May 18th, 2009
11:38 pm

By the way, are we the only ones still up? Why don’t the three of us just go out for a beer?

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:38 pm

C’mon you gotta admit Matt did a good job last year

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:39 pm

I hold no ill will Schultz. Maybe the AJC shouldn’t have any Vick blogs then. You expect it not to be passionate?

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:42 pm

Sounds good to me.
The beer that is.

surfdawg

May 18th, 2009
11:47 pm

Vick supporter Not to push the issue but I’ve not heard of that word, .Honestly, and I would never disrespect anyone like that . We are all human beings.

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:50 pm

surfdawg, I never said that he didn’t. I believe everything was laid out perfect for him….his own offense…minimal expectations due to the state of the franchise at the time. You have to admit, no one really expected this from Ryan..admit it man. When Vick came here, expectations were out of this world, and he met them as Ryan did. Vick was a one man team, and it was proven when he got in trouble. You mean to tell me that managment didn’t make NUMEROUS mistakes with personell decisions? I’m not saying that Vick was the perfect QB, but you can’t say that he didn’t play hard for this city and made the Falcons relevant. Just be honest for once. I give Ryan his props, and I stand by my statement that his arm was “tired”. You watched the games. Another thing…you must not know about players that play with a chip on their shoulder and have something, and #7 had EVERYTHING to prove. I’ve always said that that 130 million contract was a curse. He flat out wasn’t TOTALLY mature enough to handle that, even I will admit that. But he did play well for what he had to work with. i see people always say that Roddy got better when Vick left, which isn’t true. Dude couldn’t catch a cold and he admitted that he didn’t know how to prepare as an NFL WR, which is very common for young WRs. It usually takes the 3-4 seasons, which is what has happened with Roddy. And yes, “Ice”,lol, did do a good job last year. Why don’t you show a little humility yourself.

Vick 09

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:53 pm

Schultz, that would be really cool if we could do that. Personally, i would like to know your true thoughts on Vick…nevermind…you’ve already bashed him in your article. Don’t be so pushy man. It’s just talk. I really like your articles

D.Carter

May 18th, 2009
11:58 pm

My problem with most of the comments are that people try to downgrade Vicks Qb skill set by talking about the falcons late season failures his last 2 years, truth be told J.Mora and G. Knapp we horrible as coaches… Knapp was notorious for not allowing his QB’s to audible… Not to mention that the defense was a joke…

You can talk about the dogfighting CONSPIRACY charges all you want… The fact of the matter was that he wasnt convicted of killing dogs if you want to simply state facts….He admitted to the other stuff as part of a plea deal, hell he could have gotten better legal advice from the local public defender..lol

I would just ask to keep this whole conversation away from race and more about a confused young man who has done his time and needs to have his second chance to live his life and take advantage of his god given abilities… And to all the over the top animal lovers who protest and yet hunt deer take a serious look in the mirror

Vick Supporter

May 18th, 2009
11:59 pm

That’s what I thought, surfdawg. No answer. I’m going to bed..I’ve been on the road on business for almost a month and my patience is low. Vick is gonna do it man. You watch and see

Vick 09

Ted Striker

May 18th, 2009
11:59 pm

Jeff Schultz at zero tolerance. That’s akin to asking Jack Bauer if he wants to engage in a headbutting contest, and letting him go first. (Newsreel at 11, Brooke Shields feels as though she’s relevant for the first time since Blue Lagoon).

No, I don’t make any sense. While you guys are talking about going out and having beers I’m knocking them down like they’re water. Yes, I know. I’m your hero.

vuduchld

May 19th, 2009
12:00 am

MV7 has moved on and you clowns need to do the same. As for them poodles, who cares! I mean, let’s be real here. Dumbya and Cheney can ship our men and women overseas to fight in a war they made up and you idiots want to worship them as American heroes. If Vick had to do his time then Bush, Cheney, Rice and the other scumbags need to spend their time – IN IRAQ. Go Vick, I hope you do well!!

Birdy

May 19th, 2009
12:02 am

I would like to see Jeff Schultz answer these questions previously asked:

* “Why didn’t the AJC do an expose on the Humane Society of the US and their fradulent campaigns to raise money that doesn’t go anywhere NEAR helping the poor critters they love to cry about on TV? Where was the AJC to point out the hypocrisy of those nuts PETA as they holler about Vick but was mute on Ed Faron’s conviction and sentence – as well as the killing of every ONE of the 100 dogs he owned for his dogfighting ring in NC. Why AJC? Why didn’t you print the story about the crazy woman who was put on federal probation for the letter she sent to Vick’s lawyer that threatened his HUMAN CHILDREN. Why is the AJC so biased in its reporting? Why are you so protective of groups the FBI calls domestic terrorists? Ask those scientists/researchers at UCLA if they think PETA is just a “animal rights” group,see what they say.”

surfdawg

May 19th, 2009
12:02 am

I agree with the whole post, and once again When Mike came in he made football in ATL fun again. I agree with all the posts that say alot of other people have done much worse than Mike. My whole thing was VS2 makes it sound like Matt did’nt do anything last year when he did.Mind you it was’nt as exciting as
vick did it ,but we still got there

surfdawg

May 19th, 2009
12:03 am

Enter your comments here

surfdawg

May 19th, 2009
12:04 am

I was posting I type slow

Casual Falcons Fan

May 19th, 2009
12:10 am

JSS, you do understand that Jeff Schultz’s column is an editorial piece, not a documentary, right? He’s supposed to “opine.” And that includes discussing hearsay, innuendo, rumor, conjecture, and even speculation. Why not? It’s an offering of opinion. Furthermore, you act surprised by what you’re reading. If I’m reading Vatican Papers, I don’t scream the Heavens above, “This reeks of Catholicism!” Who could have guessed such things?

If Jeff Schultz aggravates you to this level, stop reading. I mean, on some level, you must know that you “enjoy” reading Schultz’s column. Or you wouldn’t do it anymore. And if your gripe against him is that he should be censored or fired or prevented from expressing himself, then that’s disappointing. ‘Cause last time I checked, the 1st Amendment is featured prominently in the “Bill of Rights.” To deny Schultz his say, is Unconstitutional. And it’s un-American. The correct thing to do, is ignore him, if he displeases you. And clearly, I think he does displease you.

surfdawg

May 19th, 2009
12:18 am

VUDU Those American heroes are what allows you to post on this Blog in a free country. Show a little respect for them

Snatchandgrab

May 19th, 2009
12:41 am

I can’t believe people are so heated over this issue. I realized long time ago…If he plays again, or if he never plays again, it doesn’t affect me or my life one bit. Think about it people. Let it go. Be pissed over Leonard Little killing a woman and still playing. There was no outrage over that. I don’t understand people.

intellibird

May 19th, 2009
12:54 am

Falcons will be 10-6 this year. Somebody asked earlier.

BigEasy830

May 19th, 2009
12:55 am

Ted Stryker, I couldn’t sleep, I kept dreaming about that blonde, 34c 24 36.

Great post D. Carter.

Great post VUDU

surfdawg, you know nothing about football. I can’t stand the Falcons and I know more about them than you. It is a widely known fact that the Falcons implemented the Boston College plays for Matt Ryan. It is easier to make the other guys learn the college offense that your 72 million dollar QB already knows especially since you will install a new system anyway. I think the media should stop saying that Vick was convicted of dogfighting. That is like the police stopping a serial killer in a traffic stop, find dead bodies in the car and years later say he was given the death penalty for running a red light. The Dogfighting was a misdemeanor, it was the lesser crime. The felonies were trumped up charges, Interstate commerce and some other bull crap. PETA saw a way to to further their agenda and will not let it go. And people talk about the poor dogs, Pitbulls are vicious animals. Those dogs are good for only one thing and thats attacking something.

BigEasy830

May 19th, 2009
1:01 am

Shultz if your gonna get beer get a pack of hot dogs, some buns and chips too, you know if we start drinking this late were gonna get the munchies to.

vuduchld

May 19th, 2009
2:03 am

Ah surfdawg, it is clearly evident you either did not read my post or can’t read at all. My post was not directed at the troops, but the criminals who sent them there who are now trying to absolve or revise about what happened. MV7 was wrong and paid the price, but there are others(and if you read my post you know who they are) that lied and corrupted our nation. I would love to see some of the posters on here go after them with the same intensity that they went after Vick.

I live in a Loft and come in contact with responsible and irresponsible pet owners on a daily basis. I never see PETA or the Humane society come down on the latter. I guess it’s because they’re not famous enough to grab headlines.

I don’t want to hear another animal loving group talk about Mike Vick. If these folks want to impress me then go after some of these not so famous irresponsible idiot pet owners!!

rich

May 19th, 2009
3:59 am

It seems like it would have been better for MV if he had murdered some people than being involved in and killing some dogs. While his participation in the aforementioned was wrong, certainly it is not “the unpardonable.” When one consider all the evil done to human beings simply because of their race,religion,sexual-orientation,etc. what he did does not, and indeed cannot be compared. But in a country where “DOGS” are worshipped more than “GOD” this type of treatment to a fellow human is
“politically correct. It’s not. America, and all of you who just cannot, or, rather would not let it go. LET IT GO ! America,what Mike did was wrong, dumb, stupid and immature. His actions exposes our inhumane attitude to another human. He that is without sin cast the first stone. Mike is certainly wrong for the way in which he treated those dogs. America, you are also wrong for the way you are treating this human being. Mike keep your head up, for ” TOUGH TIMES NEVER LAST, BUT TOUGH PEOPLE DO ! richlov4u@yahoo.com

.D-Nice

May 19th, 2009
4:21 am

Isnt this the same city that had a hockey player killed by the his teammate? Yes Dany Heatley never has faced the criticism that Mike Vick has and the family of Daniel Snynder actually forgave him. That family is a class act even though they could blame Heatley forever and ever after he was drinking and driving and ended up killing their son down in BuckHead. What MV did was inexcusable and he has paid a huge debt to society but lets give this man a 2nd chance just as we have with Dany Heatley.

I was watching Dr. Phil last nite here in Iraq and the mother of one of the victims in the crash that took the life of the rookie baseball player back in April was on the show saying how she was texting her daughter waiting for a response that never would come. In California last year over 1500 people lost their lives to DUI. I will always weigh a human life more than an animal, for that matter former VP Cheney shot a man in the back and Sarah Palin has pictures of her shooting a moose which is very much an animal like a dog is.

Would we be up in arms if Vick had slaughtered a pig, a cow, a chicken, a frog, a rabbit, etc….. THe answer is no and we as a society need to let this hatred of this man go because their is only one judge and until we realize it things like the killings all over the country, the 5 service members killed her by one of “our own”, will continue to happen and dominate the news versus good works like Dikembe Mutombo opening up 12 new hospitals in africa.

No one is perfect as I can attest to that but lets give this young man a chance to show contrition and do better in life now that he has seen the bottom. So many ex criminals are not given a fair shake and eventually revert back to what got them their in the 1st place. We then are all over saying they are monsters when if we went out to help them become produtive members again then they will be an asset and not a liability to our country. I understand that we cant save everyone but one child saved is worth a hundred hens (dont know where I heard that but it sounds philisophical).

In closing lets bad together as a nation as we have troops over here in Iraq, and Afhganistan that are missing their families, losing their families, some may not even see them again; but we are wasting efforts to criticize this man who by the standards set by our court system has paid the majority of it back minus the 3 years he will have of probation.

Scooter

May 19th, 2009
5:25 am

Vick isn’t the first person in the world to fight dogs. The man has the right to play fotball again and I can’t wait till he sticks it to all yall that dont like him.

Ted Striker

May 19th, 2009
7:41 am

BigEasy, Your secret about the blonde is safe. I won’t breathe a word to your wife when I see the two of you in church

crabapplejoe

May 19th, 2009
8:03 am

BigEasy wrote: “Tookie changed but they still executed him.”

Tookie killed some of your fellow human beings in cold blood. The bast**d deserved to die. I don’t think even MV7 would like to be compared to that worthless POS….and who is “they”?

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
8:51 am

“BIG EASY”830 are you a streetwalker from New Orleans? You said that the Falcons made it easy for Matt and gave him the same playbook he had at college, which made him successfull. Right? So you mean to tell me Matt beat the Bucs, Panthers, and your Saints with college football? Those other teams he beat with “college plays” must feel just as stupid as you right about now. HA!HA!HA!

FalconUGAFan

May 19th, 2009
9:10 am

Well guess I’ll throw my 2 cents in. Man, I loved MV when he was with the Falcons. The guy was exciting! He was a raw talent that needed some shaping and maturity. He tore out a piece of my heart everytime he got in trouble. But he has served his time, and he deserves another shot. I really wish the best for him but with another team. And to be honest, I really don’t think it makes much sense to compare him anf Ryan. They are totally different QBs.

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
9:55 am

Get over it scottbravesfan !!! MV will play again and do well !! And for all you haters, get over IT !!!! who has not sinned cast the first stone!!

OFFICIAL MANTRA OF THE UNINTELLIGENT

May 19th, 2009
9:55 am

LET YO HATERS BE YO MOTIVATORS, MIKE !

Schoolingthem

May 19th, 2009
10:09 am

The man have paid enough, I wish that these so call experts tell me how can you measure genuine? How can you meaure sincere? I see espn running these programs with gun man with high power rifles killing animals in their environment, my fault its a sport. Vick was wrong, he paid his debt, let the young fellow along.I’m not a Vick fan wasn’t before and not now, but rest assure I will do my part to help the young man. I pledge to you Vick, I never worn another man name on my back, I will make sure everyone of my family members have a Vick jersey on their back were every you land. Roger Goddell a smart man, as long there is money to make off those young men that play the game of football, he will allow Vick back. One thing I know greed is always forgiving.

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
10:11 am

I hope the cowboys pick mike up ? If I was a GM I would give up a 2nd or 3rd RD pick for MV any day!!

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
10:17 am

I hope the cowboys pick MV up !! If I was a GM I would give up a 2nd or 3rd RD pick for MV any day. the Falcons still have there ACE in the hole!!

The Dogfighter Returns

May 19th, 2009
10:25 am

America hide your dogs. The dogfighter is going to be out tomorrow. Hide your dogs. I can’t believe they let that gambler out of jail. He was gambling. that SOB was gambling that is a serious crime.

Who exactly does MV7 think he is organizing a gambling ring? Gambling is reserved strictly for the states. That MV7 got some nerve for gambling. Gambling? Dude are you serious.

I am out of here like TMoore.

Hollywould

May 19th, 2009
10:28 am

Yeah Cowboy, we saw how the Pacman, T.O., Tank show went down. Insanity is doing the wrong thing over and over.

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
10:30 am

Cowboy fan, Arthur Blank is a nice man and wouldn’t screw over his friend Jerry like that. You know, Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Blank would gladly take a stick of gum and a shoe string for Vick.

Keeping It REAL Real

May 19th, 2009
10:40 am

If someone is a “HATER” of you, could it possibly be because of how you elect to conduct yourself?

Could it possibly be there are “HATERS” of you because you are simply not a very nice human being?

Hmmm?

I typically find that most people have ZERO reasons to “Hate” me until I give them some by being a selfish, self-serving jerk with little or no consideration for others.

Now, go hate on THAT, you victimized-feeling Vick Lovers.

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
10:43 am

Look no team can take Vick until Blank releases him or trades him. We all know no team is knocking on the media nightmare Mike Vick’s door to get him on their team. Vick will not play in the NFL this year and most likely not in the future. Everyone just look at it like you owned an NFL team. If you were the owner trying to get your team to the superbowl, would you really want the distraction that Vick will bring to your team. It’s not worth it. There are alot of fast players in this league that can win games. Teams won before Vick and teams have continued to win with out Vick. One team in particular the ATLANTA FALCONS!!

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
10:46 am

Jerry already got screwed !! KB signing !! Jerry knows he has to sell tickets for the 100,000 thousand seat stadium !! MV will do that !! and for the stick of gum !! Blank maybe !! But the Falcon GM is to smart to take a stick of gum for MV!! GET OVER IT HATERS !!

Hollywould

May 19th, 2009
10:55 am

I think he would take the wrapper/ forget the gum. I wish Dallas would take him. My buds and I already have our rooms for the Oct. 25th showdown in Dallas. perhaps I will take my Vick jersey there as I could not even get a bid on EBAY. Don’t get me wrong/ I think he should have another chance. He has paid enough but just because a lot of us don’t care for him does not make us racist or haters. We have had enough
of the clown actions.

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
11:02 am

And for the dog lovers, the humane society kills more dogs and cats in one day that would blow your mind!! so why don’t you protest at your community Dog pound???

1eyedJack

May 19th, 2009
11:02 am

I hope someone IS stupid enough to give the Falcons a 2nd or 3rd rounder for MV. (Probably more like a 7th or Free agent when the Falcons release him) I saw him on the news the other day and the back of his neck looked like a pack of hot dogs. What are they feeding felons at Leavenworth? He’s definitely out of football shape and I gaurantee he will not come close to a 4.3 forty time. I always thought he was an exciting player and may have become a really good QB if Arthur had not fired Dan Reeves. But I just don’t think he has enough between the ears to be great at QB. I mean, come on, what idiot given 130 million would risk that by trying to take tainted water bottles with hidden compartments through airport security. What idiot would trust his homey’s from the hood not to screw up and drag him down with them. What sadistic b@$t@rd enjoys watching one poor trusting animal slowly kill another. These type of judgements are not what you want your team leader to have.

Now, having said that, I do beleive MV has paid his debt to society and deserves to make a living just like you and I. However, he should be put on a “short leash”, and one more mistake and he’s banned for life.

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
11:06 am

So I guess my opinion will make a dog hater!! Ha Ha !!

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
11:09 am

Cowgirl, I never said I hated Vick. I just don’t believe he is this great football player some are trying to make him out to be. When Vick was drafted I was excited and couldn’t wait to see him on the field. After that it was just wait til next year. He never proved he could be consistant. His last two years were horrible, loosing record, saying he didn’t give 100%, flipping the bird ect………….I just got tired of it. He has paid his debt to society and the Falcons owe him nothing.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 19th, 2009
11:28 am

FOR A GUY WHO SUPPOSEDLY SUCKS IN THE OPINION OF “YOU” PEOPLE, HE SURE FILLS UP THE BLOGS :) I MEAN MATT RYAN “LEAF” WOULD BE LUCKY TO GET 2 PAGES AND ON ESPN BLOGS – 10S OF THOUSANDS BLOG ABOUT VICK.

ARE YOU SURE LEAF IS ACTUALLY THE FACE OF THE FRANCHISE? WELL I GUESS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DIDN’T GET THE MEMO :)

GO FALCONS!

KRYPTO The Super Dog

May 19th, 2009
11:29 am

I’d like to see that wimpy Michael Vick try that with me.

[...] Wrote a column the other day on Michael Vick. Lots of reaction. Lots of reader comments. Lots of page views. These days, I think that’s supposed to be my nirvana. Wish I could tell you it’s been a great last 48 hours. I’ve spent way too much time deleting potential online comments that had been red-flagged for obscenities, etc., by blogging software. Or worse, deleting comments that weren’t red-flagged and reached the public forum for a short time. See, I made a big mistake. I trusted you. [...]

cowboy fan

May 19th, 2009
11:33 am

I love the cowgirls ((Whatever!)) Put silliness aside you are right What!!! But don’t forget the NFL is nothing but entertainment and MV provides that !! And another thing MV is still better than most QBs in the NFL!! and for the last 2yrs , If his receivers had not dropped all them passes MV might have run less and thrown more and would have had more confidence in his teammates!! He tried to hard to win games on his own and you just can’t do that on a team sport!!!

Hollywould

May 19th, 2009
11:43 am

VS2, Who cares what the rest of the country thinks? Man, after being shot down on everything you said last year( wait till they play the bucs again, wait till the saints play them again, falcons will never make the playoffs, and to top it all Ryan will never be ROY. Everything you said would happen did not. i bet your bookie is still looking for you. Are you ever right or do you do it on purpose. Nobody can be that dumb.

BigEasy830

May 19th, 2009
11:48 am

What!!!, do you even follow the Falcons, it is a widely known fact that the Falcons implemented the Boston college offense for Matt Ryan, before you post a negative comment and call someone stupid do your research first. Oh, you are one of those internet bullies, I guess I should be scared, but I am not. Only a coward would write something on a blog that he would not say in a man’s face and trust me What!!!, everything I write here I would tell you in your face.

MsB3

May 19th, 2009
11:53 am

There are so many, those who are in higher positions than Vick was, who are engaged in, was engaged in, participate in, did participate in, are linked to, were linked to, support, did support, either DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY to questionable activities. These may or may not be as evil as dogfighting, but they exist. The difference is that they have not been exposed. Many of those in higher positions are hiding behind others. This could have been the same with Vick. Who knows? Only Vick and them (God, of course). Why is it that we are so bent on not forgiving and moving on? Look at past presidents, no one is picketing at their doorsteps or gravesites. We must learn to be forgiving. We must teach this to our children so in the future their children will learn the better qualities that help us a society to progress. If a child is suspended from school, he is able to return. Why can’t Vick be given the opportunity to do what he does for a career? Why cant’t those who are respected for being animal rights activists remember that they are not perfect either and that he may be remorseful. He does have to live with it everyday. I am sure there are many who are for animal rights who smoke and that second hand smoke has affected someone, somewhere and ……Do you get the point?

BigEasy830

May 19th, 2009
11:58 am

What wrote that Arthur Blank is a nice guy, well tell that to the lady that settled out of court the sexual harassment suite against Blank,

Crabapplejoe, you are just slow witted.

Brock

May 19th, 2009
12:05 pm

By Big easy-Pitbulls are vicious animals. Those dogs are good for only one thing and thats attacking something.

ERRR..Wrong!! I have raised dogs all my life. I own 2 pits now and they don’t attack anything but their food bowls and yard toys. And I have never had an incedent where they have come close to harming another human or dog. So try again. It’s the way the owners treat them. So.. do you have pitbulls? Have you ever owned any pitbulls? If not then you have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to football. You’re good at that.

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
12:22 pm

BigEasy………………we beat your team with a college playbook. Shhh don’t tell anyone. I’m the internet bully………..that’s funny. You must be having flash backs from your old school days. You can see my face at 2115 w.walnut ave dalton,ga. 30721. Hope to see you soon.

Hamad Meander

May 19th, 2009
12:38 pm

I’m back…..hello What!!! Sorry to see you’ve had to fend off the dogs (no pun intended) by yourself. If I see one more person compare Matt Ryan to Ryan Leaf I think I will go nuts. Again, Ryan surpassed Leaf’s career TDs in one season. Leaf was a basketcase, Ryan is an ambassador for the Falcons and the NFL.

I simply do not understand why Falcon fans (or so they say they are Falcon fans) would think that this team would be MORE successful with MV7 at QB. I truly believe, without prejudice or doubt, that 98% of MV7 supporters would rather see Vick at QB and win less games, than see Ryan at QB and win more games. That is so very sad, and I hate that it is true.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 19th, 2009
1:05 pm

FACT VS FICTION:

MATT RYAN “LEAF” PLAYED 5-YEARS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK PLAYED 2-YEARS OF COLLEGE BALL: F.A.C.T.

MATT RYAN & RYAN LEAF BOTH NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK HAS 2-PLAYOFF WINS: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK WON HIS FIRST PLAYOFF GAME AT AGE 21: F.A.C.T.

MATT RYAN “LEAF” HAS NEVER MADE THE PRO BOWL AS OF AGE 23: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK MADE HIS 1ST PRO BOWL AT AGE 21: F.A.C.T.

MATT RYAN “LEAF” AS OF AGE 24 NEVER PLAYED IN CHAMPIONSHI GAME: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK PLAYED IN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AT AGE 23: F.A.C.T.

MATT RYAN “LEAF” HAS (0) PRO BOWLS: F.A.C.T.

MIKE VICK HAS (3) PRO BOWLS: F.A.C.T.

THE FACTS DON’T LIE :)

GO FALCONS!

The Dogfighter Returns

May 19th, 2009
1:08 pm

The bastards must be running out of stories to write.

No wonder newspapers are becoming extinct.

Erik

May 19th, 2009
1:30 pm

VICK SUPPORTER 2:

Anyone who compares Ryan Leaf to Matt Ryan is severely insane. In addition, yes, MV did take us to the playoffs on occasion, and win some playoff games. But he also had losing seasons here and seasons in which he didn’t take us to the playoffs.

I’m a MV fan, always was. But he ruined himself here in Atlanta. The most ridiculous thing I keep reading is “Give MV a second chance” or “Have all you people dogging him never done anything wrong”?

First, MV was given SEVERAL second chances and he wasted them all. If you don’t believe me, please reference the following: Lying to Goodell, lying to Arthur Blank, defrauding on loans, the water bottle at Miami airport, the photo of him with a blunt in a limo, the airtran fiasco, etc… I could go on and on. The point is he continually was given another chance by the organization, by this city, and by me. But after too many second chances, PLUS a felony conviction, I no longer want him here. That doesn’t make me a racist and that doesn’t mean I’m pulling against him. I wish him the best. But you have to earn my support. I don’t blindly support any athlete, black or white.

As for the all the people on this board bashing Vick but not looking in the mirror. Yes, we all have sinned and will continue to do so. But no one else on this board was paid MILLIONS of dollars to be the LEADER of a franchise. With great fame and money comes great responsibility. MV did not handle his responsibilies as the Falcons QB. And any time you are in the public eye, you are going to be scrutinized when you make mistakes. It’s part of the territory.

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
1:35 pm

Hamad I’m with you. It’s so funny to read how some are trying their best to prove that Vick was a continual success with the Falcons. They keep saying FACTS……FACTS……FACTS!!!!! So I’ll try. Fact…Vick had some success with the Falcons. However, facts prove that it was but for a moment. Fact…Vick proved by his own playing that he did not have the talent or the will to be a true leader for this team. I mean, DANG, you would think 130 million would light some kind of leadership fire under his butt! Not with Vick! And fact, every NFL team who has a face of the franchise QB builds their team around that QB’s strength. Tried it with Vick just didn’t work. Not saying Vick is stupid or anything like that but his “COLLEGE OPTION” just didn’t last in the NFL. Good holy grief, a d-lineman would fart and Vick would take off running! That’s why the receivers didn’t have good numbers with Vick at QB! Boy MATT RYAN sure changed that!!

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
1:40 pm

FACT: Sometimes I type to fast. Is it light a fire or lite a fire? Please grammer patrol help me!!!!

Erik

May 19th, 2009
1:50 pm

I love the way anyone who’s white who chooses to not support Vick after 45 second chances is a racist. I used to love MV the player. I was thrilled the day we drafted him. Michael Turner – awesome! Roddy White – maybe the best young WR in the NFL. Curtis Lofton – badass!!! Jamaal Anderson – BUST!!!!!! I want him gone. Ryan – love the guy. Brooking – thrilled he’s outta here. See, I like and dislike players of all races. But my opinion stems from their actions, not their skin color.

Vick supporters, please, choosing not to support a convicted felon being on my team does not make me a racist. But, ask yourselves, what does blindly supporting Vick over Matt Ryan make you? And I’ll say this, if Matt Ryan gets involved in the same type of illegal crap, my comments about him will be every bit as harsh. Vick was paid millions to not F up, and he F’ed up. It’s on him.

If he has, in fact, learned his lesson, he ABSOLUTELY deserves another chance to play. I just don’t want him here. And it has nothing to do with him being black.

Vick Supporter

May 19th, 2009
2:00 pm

I can’t wait until Vick makes you Falcons “fans” eat your words. Why don’t you start a blog about “Ice”? lol.

Isupport7

May 19th, 2009
2:21 pm

What Michael Vick and his badnewz boys did was reprensible, cruel and cowardly to use just a few adjectives. I am from Virginia and I graduated from Virginia Tech. Dogfighting is not part of our culture. Throwing family pets into a pit with trained killers because it is fun to watch the helpless animals be ripped apart is not part of our culture. Michael Vick is a pathetic thug from the slums who is a great athlete but would not and never will have what it takes to be a franchise QB in the NFL or even a great man.

But, regardless of that, Michael Vick has served his time and is on work-release which is what happens to most first-time convicted felons. Michael Vick should also not be allowed to return to his former career. If I was convicted of a felony, I would not be allowed to return to my job or my career. I would be looking to get my $10/hour construction job and be working hard to increase my hourly wage by staying clean and working hard. That is the future that Michael Vick as a convicted felon deserves. He will not be allowed to vote, hold public office or hold a job for a private corporation such as the NFL.

That said, all of this is moot. Possibly the racists who call anybody who disagrees with them a hater have not considered the actual facts that Goodell has to deal with. The NFL has a lifetime ban in place for any player, coach or other personnel found to be guilty of gambling or associated with gambling in any form. The last that I knew, the purpose of raising dogs to fight in a pit is so that patrons can wager on the outcome.

So wager that and then head back on over to isupport7.com and bemoan #7’s fate.

Go Falcons.

DOIT

May 19th, 2009
2:39 pm

Whos cares if he killed a bunch of dogs…. As long as he can entertain me on Sunday I dont care who he kills… my dog is in MA. not VA. so I guess he is safe from the Vick killer. GO! Mike !!!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 19th, 2009
3:29 pm

“DOMINATING THE MEDIA COVERAGE: VICK IS ALL OVER THE SPORTS CHANNELS TODAY. I CAN’T SEEM TO FIND ANY COVERAGE ON MATT RYAN “LEAF”…….

OH WAIT…………..

THERE IS THAT PLAYOFF REWIND AGAINST THE ARIZONA CARDINALS…..WHO WON THAT GAME, I FORGET :)

GO FALCONS!

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
3:38 pm

Vick Supporter 2, I know of alot of con”vicks” who make the news.

Hamad Meander

May 19th, 2009
3:40 pm

Great comments Erik and What!!! The thing I’ve come to realize though is that no matter what happens to the Falcons or Matt Ryan – even if they win the Superbowl, there will be a large contingent of fans that will still believe that Vick would have done better. We’re wasting our time trying to argue otherwise……

It will never end. What I cannot understand is how Michael Vick was able to glean this level of support during an NFL career that wasn’t any more successful than Dante Culpepper’s, or Chris Chandler’s, or even Steve McNair’s.

Why wasn’t Warrick Dunn loved as much as Michael Vick? Here was a guy who who could truly call a ‘role model’ and he didn’t get the fanatical adoration that MV7 got.

What!!!

May 19th, 2009
3:47 pm

Hamad, perfect point with Warick Dunn. He did so much for so many people. It’s a shame, he should get more attention for his goodwill toward his fellow man.

I know we are wasting our time with the people who have a STRONG MAN LOVE with Vick but it is fun. HA!HA!

GO FALCONS ALL OF US TRUE FANS WILL SUPPORT THE TEAM. And if Matt stinks it up then go get us another QB. We are Falcon fans first, player fans second.

Isupport7

May 19th, 2009
4:09 pm

I’m glad that my dog lives in VA. I’m glad that Michael Vick will be coming home. Maybe after he fails at his construction job, he can get a job at the car wash. Then my Rottweiller and I can take the ‘vette down to the car wash and have Mike give it a nice wax and shine. Maybe I’ll see if Mike has truly changed after finding Jesus and would like to pet my dog. Of course, I will first have to make sure that my dog knows that, “yes Jesus, it is that Michael Vick and he has truly found you now” :)

surfdawg

May 19th, 2009
9:33 pm

No posts since 4:09. I guess we’ve said everything there is to say

[...] Wrote a column the other day on Michael Vick. Lots of reaction. Lots of reader comments. Lots of page views. These days, I think that’s supposed to be my nirvana. Wish I could tell you it’s been a great last 48 hours. I’ve spent way too much time deleting potential online comments that had been red-flagged for … [...]

Taft Jones

May 20th, 2009
3:17 pm

espn and ajc should give mv7 a cut of their profits during the past 3 years and vick would definitely be able to pay all of his debts off. A major fault of these media outlets is a lack of loyalty they should credit vick for being a hot topics that would allow him them to thrive. apparently he will be noteworthy in 4 years as he has been through this ordeal. That’s more than i can say for peta who should also thank mv7 for their 5 minutes of fame. vick brought their name to attention and everybody all of a sudden cares. i doubt their celebrity endures as we know vicks will

Joe

May 20th, 2009
4:45 pm

The bum deserves nothing but unemployment and scorn. I would NEVER support any team that puts a uniform on him.

M Anthony

May 21st, 2009
2:07 pm

Interesting all the hate for this man. Only thing he did was generate millions of dollars for this city, the team owners and all connected to the games played on Sundays here in Atlanta. But as haters beget hate, that is all what the palefaces pour out on these blogs, all over tv and in any conversation about MV. The haters ignore those who look like them when they caused the invasion of an innocent country killing untold numbers of women and children. Yet cant seem to let it go the fighting of some d__n dogs. The man did his time. What do you palefaces and Massa Gooddell want the man to do. Get done on his knees and kiss your shoes. Many your mindset is stuck in that period before 1865. Or is it your opportunity to show to all that your mind has always been in that time period.

Voice of Reason #1

May 21st, 2009
2:09 pm

I hope Goddell does NOT permit Vick to return. I cannot STAND liars, and Vick LIED to the league admin, to Goddell and to Blank. Legally, he did his time and deserves a chance to work somewhere. But if I were Goddell, would he return to the NFL? Hell no. I am so sick and tired of all these hoodlum athletes and “celebrities” these days. Make them get a regular job and feel the pain of what they did. They need a wakeup call, and if we keep excusing people, and giving celebs passes, they’ll never learn their lessons. Sets a bad example and is jacking up our society and kids.

CeCe

May 22nd, 2009
12:25 pm

What is wrong with you people???? The man did a horrible thing..yeah? But he did’nt kill or murder a HUMAN!!! I’ve seen murderers and baby killers, and rapists do their time in prison and get out and live without the CRAP you are trying to pull on this man. He did his time!!! Go away PETA and others who are haters. It’s over and done with! He deserves to get on with his life for whatever that may be! Personally I would love to see him play again! I’m looking forward to it! He’s one of the greatest quarterbacks I’ve ever seen! Go pickett someone who killed a HUMAN or something! This man has paid for what he has done..get OVER IT!!!!

Hubert Thomas

May 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm

I totally agree CeCe. Remeber who told you you this Blank. When Vick signs with another team and they play in the dome, watch how many Vick supporters you see in the stands. Im a die hard Fan, beenone since 66 but that will be the only time I wish he would beat the brakes off of our Falcons. You are still a Big Dummy.

Hubert Thomas

May 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm

Voice of Reason? You are full of it. I don’t think Goodell can and should have that kind of power to determine if Vick should play. He is not God. Goodell can think he can make that determination but if he bans Mike from the leagus you will see a massacre. And cant no dogs protect him from that.

truth-serum

May 22nd, 2009
5:22 pm

Hubert Thomas

May 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm

ILL BE THERE WEARING # 7 BECAUSE I WILL NEVER LET YOUR HATE PREVAIL OVER LOVE.

IF YOU NEED ONE TO SHOW YOUR LOVE…IF YOU EVER STEP UP TO MANHOOD….

http://www.sidelinemvp.com/nfl_jerseys.html

truth-serum

May 22nd, 2009
5:24 pm

Hubert Thomas

May 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm

MY BAD THOMAS YOU HAVE LOVE. MY BAD, I MISS READ YOU!!

Jo Ann

May 27th, 2009
7:34 am

Playing in the NFL, is a privilege. Vick does not deserve a 2nd chance. It takes one very sick individual to be able to torture and kill defenseless animals. I rather doubt he was cured while in prison. Vick does drugs, he hid hundreds of thousands of dollars before going to prison,he ripped off the Falcons for most of their bonus money, and he illegally took pension fund money. This is the type person who should be a role model in our NFL? Vick is very fortunate to have a job with a construction company. Many decent people are currently unemployed. How many people do you think could be out of work for 2 years, start a new job making $10 pr.hr., and be able to afford a security team, $3million bankruptcy attorney fees and live in a $750,000 home? Vick is fortunate indeed. Let him get on with his life and his new career in the construction industry. Hopefully, Mr. Goodell will give Vick the lifetime ban, he so deserves.

lisa

June 6th, 2009
9:52 pm

For those of you who think this POS deserves a 2nd chance to be a ‘role model’ take a look at some of the images of dogs he forced to kill each other. Those that survived are so severely deformed they look like monsters. Eyes missing, half their faces gone. I’m all for someone redeeming themselves but this guy is downright evil. What does it take a person to be, deep down, to force animals to attack and kill each other – and to sit back and enjoy it? This guy sends chills down my spine.

At best, if he spent the rest of his life working towards ending animal cruelty, he might make it through those pearly gates. But I really don’t think a person like MV cares about anything but his selfish little world of greed and violence. We don’t need humans like this in our race.

Max61

June 11th, 2009
2:43 pm

….Jeff, good article, well written……This story is not over, for those who are tired of it…….And no, Vick does not deserve reinstatement…………..It still remains to be seen what Goodell will do……….

Kim E

June 12th, 2009
3:58 pm

I have never seen so much hatred about an individual. Vick should play again. What I have noticed is a serious hatred of a person that is trying to move on. He will rise again. What we cannot do is to stop a man from making an honest living. He has that right. A nasty soap opera , constantly defaming his character.

Betsy

June 12th, 2009
4:19 pm

Excellent article. He was released (predictably)by the Falcons today. I have not read all the comments, but surely the NFL can find someone with a few morals and character who can throw a football!!!

gp295

June 12th, 2009
5:38 pm

Grammar Police that is what you get when your tax isnt paid on time, put the school systems firist, not football.

Todd

June 12th, 2009
6:14 pm

Who can really say what Mike Vick can or cannot do without him getting on the field to find out. If he is the best QB in a particular team, who would you want to have. What if he’s faster than before. Everyone who say he do not have it anymore is just voicing their opinion. Until he get the opportunity, NO ONE knows….

Todd

June 12th, 2009
6:17 pm

“Voice of Reason #1:…I cannot STAND liars, and Vick LIED to the league admin, to Goddell and to Blank…”

So you hate George Busy and Cheney for tell the entire country a lie and got the USA invilved ina war based on that lie…

T. Anne

June 13th, 2009
4:30 am

I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE BASHING MIKE VICK. THE REASON THEY ARE DOING IT IS BECAUSE HE IS BLACK AND A VERY GOOD QB. DID BOBBY COX GO TO JAIL WHEN HE BEAT HIS WIFE? YOU HEARD NOTHING ELSE ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS. WHEN THE JACKSONVILLE PLAYER GOT CAUGHT TRAFFICKING COCAINE, DID THEY LET HIM PLAY AGAIN, YES. WHY IS EVERYONE SO DOWN ON VICK? HE BROUGHT THE OLD TIRED FALCONS UP. GOT THEM TO THE SUPERBOWL, AND THEY BLEW IT. THE QB THEY HAVE NOW IS WHITE, AND THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE WANTED. WE HAVE PEOPLE EVERYDAY THAT ABUSE CHILDREN AND PEOPLE, DO YOU HEAR ABOUT THEM? WHEN IT COMES TO DOGS, AND I HAVE A DOG, PETA ACTS LIKE IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD. THEY ONLY WANTED PUBLICITY. NOW YOU DON’T HEAR A WORD FROM THEM. THEY CAUGHT A MAN IN GWINNETT COUNTY WITH DEAD DOGS THAT HE HAD BEEN FIGHTING IN HIS BACK YARD. DID YOU HEAR ANY MORE ABOUT HIM? A LADY HAD ABUSED HER DOGS AND CATS, GOT CAUGHT, DID YOU HEAR ANY MORE FROM HER? NO BECAUSE THEY WERE WHITE PEOPLE AND THE BLACKS ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY FROM WHITES WHEN THEY COMMITT A CRIME. LEAVE THE MAN ALONE, LET HIM GET ON WITH HIS LIFE AND STOP BASHING HIM BECAUSE I AM SURE ALL OF YOU HATERS HAVE SKELETONS IN YOUR CLOSETS TOO. AS FOR HIS PARENTS, WE DON’T KNOW HOW HE WAS BROUGHT UP. BUT I CAN TELL BY SOME OF YOU IDIOTS POSTING COMMENTS, THAT YOUR FAMILY WAS RED-NECK TRAILER TRASH. SOME OF YOU SEEM TO HAVE ONLY A FIRST GRADE EDUCATION. STOP HATING.

T. Anne

June 13th, 2009
4:40 am

OH YEAH, AND AS FOR GOODELL, I DON’T BELIEVE THAT IS THE ONLY LIE HE HAS EVER HEARD OR WILL HEAR. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN ARTHUR BLANK WAS HIT WITH THE SEXUAL HARRASSMENT CLAIM. DID WE FORGIVE HIM? I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE TRYING TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE TRASH THEMSELVES. AS FOR ISUPPORT7′S COMMENT, YOU ARE AND IDIOT AND YOU SHOULD WORK AT THE CAR WASH. TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE.

PuppyMillFinder

June 13th, 2009
10:51 pm

I’m sure there are Pitbill puppy mills in North and South of here..

In fact, one of “The Good Ole’ Boys” gave my father a free Pitbull/Shepherd mix mutt (who was sick from the Parvo Virus)

PuppyMillFinder

June 13th, 2009
11:11 pm

Sure, The Michael Vick Case meant = exposure for the local writers and sports writers, and more revenue for the paper, radio, and TV stations.

I think that The former Falcons beat-writer received a better job offer The NFL Network after Vick entered federal prison.

I saw several local sports reporters on ESPN, Fox, etc..

Do some people hate Vick, and waited for a time to “pounce”?
Of course, they did.

Still, he gave them the opportunity…nearly twice.

Still.. Man over Dog. Dogs are being spayed and neutered every day so they cannot reproduce. Wow, that is “loving” and “Fair treatment”. Abandoned dogs are killed (euthanized) in gas chambers regularly.. (Puppies too while 17 year old dogs continue to live in the homes of many)

In my Apartment building, my neighbors’ dogs have to wait all day just to eliminate when their owners return from work. That’s got to kill their dogs kidneys and bladders every day.

Pets = captive animals. It’s called receiving supposed “unconditional love” from a captive animal.

Jeff Schultz

June 14th, 2009
8:51 am

Closing the comments section.